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No voting till your 25
Posted by: Sgt. Rock ()
Date: September 25, 2013 07:33AM

So psychiatrists and physiologists are now redefining adults as those 25 and older. Until then, you are a child or an adolescent. This being the case, we need to change the voting age in the country to 25. Only adults should vote. The only exception should be if you are serving in the US Armed Forces. That is all.....


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2430573/An-adult-18-Not-Adolescence-ends-25-prevent-young-people-getting-inferiority-complex.html

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Re: No voting till your 25
Posted by: Dumb GOP fantasyworld ()
Date: September 25, 2013 07:54AM

in other words, "as old white republicans get older, let's change the law to help get them elected".

ain't gonna happen.

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Re: No voting till your 25
Posted by: Bestwick ()
Date: September 25, 2013 08:24AM

Dumb GOP fantasyworld Wrote:
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> in other words, "as old white republicans get
> older, let's change the law to help get them
> elected".
>
> ain't gonna happen.


Join the Army (you wouldn't last a day in my beloved USMC) and serve your country. Then maybe your lily white eyes will be open to the fallacy of an oppressive, all knowing, all seeing government and what that does to countries all over the world. Otherwise, your just another homeslice loud mouth who wants all the advantages we fight and die for but none of the responsibility. In other words, a millennial.

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Re: No voting till your 25
Posted by: Atom ()
Date: September 25, 2013 08:28AM

What percentage of our brave selfless serving and retierd military have their head stuck up their ass.

We must not meet the real troops here in DC. Most military people I meet are incredible and well thought out pilars of society.

Military people who comment on the Internet make our whole country look liked liquored up, ungrateful backwards inbreed trash.

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Re: No voting till your 25
Posted by: Atom Smasher ()
Date: September 25, 2013 08:30AM

Atom Wrote:
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> What percentage of our brave selfless serving and
> retierd military have their head stuck up their
> ass.
>
> We must not meet the real troops here in DC. Most
> military people I meet are incredible and well
> thought out pilars of society.
>
> Military people who comment on the Internet make
> our whole country look liked liquored up,
> ungrateful backwards inbreed trash.


In other words, I don't agree with the poster so let me vomit out a bunch of ad homenim bullshit. Great job Atom. You can take the nig out of the jungle, but you can't take the jungle out of the nig.

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Re: No voting till your 25
Posted by: Bestwick ()
Date: September 25, 2013 08:34AM

Atom Wrote:
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> What percentage of our brave selfless serving and
> retierd military have their head stuck up their
> ass.
>
> We must not meet the real troops here in DC. Most
> military people I meet are incredible and well
> thought out pilars of society.
>
> Military people who comment on the Internet make
> our whole country look liked liquored up,
> ungrateful backwards inbreed trash.


The sad thing is, people like you don't see that people like me, who served YOU and this country get to have whatever opinions we want. Just like you do. And the fact that you don't agree with me is OK by me. But you seem irrationally angry because someone has an opinion that differs from yours. In other words, a millennial.

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Re: No voting till your 25
Posted by: Join The Teabagger Army ()
Date: September 25, 2013 08:36AM

Bestwick Wrote:
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> Dumb GOP fantasyworld Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > in other words, "as old white republicans get
> > older, let's change the law to help get them
> > elected".
> >
> > ain't gonna happen.
>
>
> Join the Army (you wouldn't last a day in my
> beloved USMC) and serve your country. Then maybe
> your lily white eyes will be open to the fallacy
> of an oppressive, all knowing, all seeing
> government and what that does to countries all
> over the world. Otherwise, your just another
> homeslice loud mouth who wants all the advantages
> we fight and die for but none of the
> responsibility.


yes, all those advantages, like "voting"

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Re: No voting till your 25
Posted by: Atom ()
Date: September 25, 2013 08:37AM

I think age is a poor judge of ability.

Military men and women are ambassadors of America. When they reveal their true colors, it makes all of us look bad.

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Re: No voting till your 25
Posted by: Fat Bottom Girl ()
Date: September 25, 2013 08:38AM

Bestwick Wrote:
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> Join the Army (you wouldn't last a day in my
> beloved USMC) and serve your country.

You realize that being a soldier, sailor, or Marine is a JOB these days, right?

So cut the 'serve your country' crap. Shut the fuck up, do your goddamned JOB, collect your pay, and live your life like every other American.
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Re: No voting till your 25
Posted by: Atom ()
Date: September 25, 2013 08:45AM

Former and current soldiers should be proud. Instead you demonstrate disenfranchisement, pettiness, racism and narrow mindedmess.

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Re: No voting till your 25
Posted by: Bestwick ()
Date: September 25, 2013 09:17AM

Atom Wrote:
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> Former and current soldiers should be proud.
> Instead you demonstrate disenfranchisement,
> pettiness, racism and narrow mindedmess.


If you have a problem with calling 24 year old's "kids", then take it up with the doctors in the OP's link. If kids should vote, then why stop at 18? Why not 17 or 16 or 10? If you aren't for 16 year old kids voting, you are no more or less for disenfranchisement than the OP. I didn't call for anyone voting or not voting.

Studies show that the millennials are the most narcissistic and self-centered generation, just as I described. While my own observations seem to bear these studies out, I defer to the studies themselves. Google at your own discretion.

Where was anything I posted racist? Screaming racism at every turn is the refuge of the slow-witted. Irrationally angry and slow-witted. Good job.

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Re: No voting till your 25
Posted by: Atom ()
Date: September 25, 2013 09:31AM

Could you cite one of those studies?

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Re: No voting till your 25
Posted by: Bestwick ()
Date: September 25, 2013 09:42AM

Atom Wrote:
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> Could you cite one of those studies?


Which part of "Google at your own discretion" do you not understand? There are over a dozen books that have been published on the subject based on these studies. Lazy, slow-witted and angry. Not a receipt for a productive member of our society.

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Re: No voting till your 25
Posted by: Teabaggs McBirther ()
Date: September 25, 2013 09:45AM

Bestwick Wrote:
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> Atom Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Could you cite one of those studies?
>
>
> Which part of "Google at your own discretion" do
> you not understand? There are over a dozen books
> that have been published on the subject based on
> these studies. Lazy, slow-witted and angry. Not
> a receipt for a productive member of our society.

You're not old when you're 40. You're not old when you're 50. And you're not old when you're 60. You're old when you start getting bitter and hostile toward the generations that came after you.

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Re: No voting till your 25
Posted by: Atom ()
Date: September 25, 2013 09:47AM

I'm going to use that one.

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Re: No voting till your 25
Posted by: Human Being ()
Date: September 25, 2013 09:54AM

Sgt. Rock Wrote:
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> So psychiatrists and physiologists are now
> redefining adults as those 25 and older. Until
> then, you are a child or an adolescent. This
> being the case, we need to change the voting age
> in the country to 25. Only adults should vote.
> The only exception should be if you are serving in
> the US Armed Forces. That is all.....

But, really, should adolescents, children really, be able to enlist in the armed forces? Should they be allowed to drive? Enter into contracts? Marry?

Isn't it society's duty to protect the most vulnerable?

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Re: No voting till your 25
Posted by: Cxdwp ()
Date: September 25, 2013 10:28AM

Sgt. Rock Wrote:
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> So psychiatrists and physiologists are now
> redefining adults as those 25 and older. Until
> then, you are a child or an adolescent. This
> being the case, we need to change the voting age
> in the country to 25. Only adults should vote.
> The only exception should be if you are serving in
> the US Armed Forces. That is all.....
>
>
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2430573/
> An-adult-18-Not-Adolescence-ends-25-prevent-young-
> people-getting-inferiority-complex.html

No voting until you know the difference between "your" and "you're", and "till" and "until".

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Re: No voting till your 25
Posted by: Atom ()
Date: September 25, 2013 10:45AM

If you want to tie IQ to your right to vote, no republican will ever get elected again.

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Re: No voting till your 25
Posted by: Atom ()
Date: September 25, 2013 10:46AM


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Re: No voting till your 25
Posted by: Yawn ()
Date: September 25, 2013 10:51AM

Atom Wrote:
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> If you want to tie IQ to your right to vote, no
> republican will ever get elected again.


 
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Re: No voting till your 25
Posted by: LOL! ()
Date: September 25, 2013 10:53AM

Atom Wrote:
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> http://m.livescience.com/18132-intelligence-social
> -conservatism-racism.html


This has been thoroughly debunked. What? Liberal professors from a liberal university find that conservatives are dumb? Shocking. LOL!

http://wmbriggs.com/blog/?p=5118

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Re: No voting till your 25
Posted by: Even better ()
Date: September 25, 2013 10:58AM

Cxdwp Wrote:
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> Sgt. Rock Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > So psychiatrists and physiologists are now
> > redefining adults as those 25 and older. Until
> > then, you are a child or an adolescent. This
> > being the case, we need to change the voting
> age
> > in the country to 25. Only adults should vote.
>
> > The only exception should be if you are serving
> in
> > the US Armed Forces. That is all.....
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2430573/
>
> >
> An-adult-18-Not-Adolescence-ends-25-prevent-young-
>
> > people-getting-inferiority-complex.html
>
> No voting until you know the difference between
> "your" and "you're", and "till" and "until".


No voting in federal elections until you pay federal income taxes. No voting until you are not receiving federal government assistance. No voting if you are a parasite on society, i.e. a democrat. I'm down with that.

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Re: No voting till your 25
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: September 25, 2013 11:18AM

Even better Wrote:
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>
> No voting in federal elections until you pay
> federal income taxes. No voting until you are not receiving federal government assistance.

But that's discrimination against 2/3 of all American companies that don't pay federal taxes...

Is the average conservative so bereft of ideas that they resort to changing voter laws in order to keep their lack of agenda relevant? lol.

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Re: No voting till your 25
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: September 25, 2013 11:19AM

Ok. No having to serve in the military or pay income taxes until you are 25 either. If you don't have a say in how society is run you should have no obligation to support or defend that society.

Seriously though, the notion that something magical happens around 25 is bunk. The brain continues to develop long after 25. As for maturation, there are plenty of 18 year olds out there who are far more mature than many older people will ever become, and there are a number of people who are actually more mature at 18 than they are later in life.

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Re: No voting till your 25
Posted by: Atom ()
Date: September 25, 2013 11:22AM

I paid federal income tax when I was 5-9 years old.

Should I have been able to vote?

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Re: No voting till your 25
Posted by: Knower of Things ()
Date: September 25, 2013 11:22AM

Bill.N. Wrote:
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> Ok. No having to serve in the military or pay
> income taxes until you are 25 either. If you
> don't have a say in how society is run you should
> have no obligation to support or defend that
> society.
>
> Seriously though, the notion that something
> magical happens around 25 is bunk. The brain
> continues to develop long after 25. As for
> maturation, there are plenty of 18 year olds out
> there who are far more mature than many older
> people will ever become, and there are a number of
> people who are actually more mature at 18 than
> they are later in life.

+1

Truly, those limey head Drs. are full of shit.

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Re: No voting till your 25
Posted by: TheMeeper Is My Bitch ()
Date: September 25, 2013 11:42AM

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> Even better Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > No voting in federal elections until you pay
> > federal income taxes. No voting until you are
> not receiving federal government assistance.
>
> But that's discrimination against 2/3 of all
> American companies that don't pay federal
> taxes...
>
> Is the average conservative so bereft of ideas
> that they resort to changing voter laws in order
> to keep their lack of agenda relevant? lol.


Stupid. Companies don't vote.

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Re: No voting till your 25
Posted by: Louder is not better ()
Date: September 25, 2013 11:46AM

Bill.N. Wrote:
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> Ok. No having to serve in the military or pay
> income taxes until you are 25 either. If you
> don't have a say in how society is run you should
> have no obligation to support or defend that
> society.
>
> Seriously though, the notion that something
> magical happens around 25 is bunk. The brain
> continues to develop long after 25. As for
> maturation, there are plenty of 18 year olds out
> there who are far more mature than many older
> people will ever become, and there are a number of
> people who are actually more mature at 18 than
> they are later in life.


Our military is voluntary. If you want to join at 18, go for it. And then you should have the right to vote. Aside from an all-out war against the muslims or a complete government take-over of our society, I don't see a draft ever coming 'round again.

I feel the same way about illegals. If they join up and serve, they should get automatic citizenship attached to their honorable discharge. Starship Troopers said it way back in 1997.

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Re: No voting till your 25
Posted by: Tunnel Vision ()
Date: September 25, 2013 11:46AM

LOL! Wrote:
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> Atom Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> http://m.livescience.com/18132-intelligence-social
>
> > -conservatism-racism.html
>
>
> This has been thoroughly debunked. What? Liberal
> professors from a liberal university find that
> conservatives are dumb? Shocking. LOL!
>
> http://wmbriggs.com/blog/?p=5118


Another hallmark of the "smarter" kids these days - posting irrelevant links to things which they don't really understand and haven't actually read beyond a headline that they saw on some talking points site and thinking that they've made some point. lol

The cited study actually is worse than Briggs makes it out to be in terms of methods and doesn't really relate to political conservatism in the way Junior would like for it to. But that's all been said before with no effect for the "smarter" folks like him who are more interested in finding things to support a predetermined point of view so no point in rehashing it all again.

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Re: No voting till your 25
Posted by: Atom ()
Date: September 25, 2013 11:49AM

Right, lets ignore established facts because they make us look bad.

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Re: No voting till your 25
Posted by: Bassackwards ()
Date: September 25, 2013 11:53AM

Atom Wrote:
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> I paid federal income tax when I was 5-9 years
> old.
>
> Should I have been able to vote?


Faulty reasoning. Because an argument/relationship may hold true in one direction does not imply that the inverse must also be true. Don't they teach you kids such things these days?

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Re: No voting till your 25
Posted by: Tunnel Vision ()
Date: September 25, 2013 11:56AM

Atom Wrote:
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> Right, lets ignore established facts because they
> make us look bad.


And your response so well illustrates my point. lol

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Re: No voting till your 25
Posted by: LOL! ()
Date: September 25, 2013 12:39PM

Tunnel Vision Wrote:
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> Atom Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Right, lets ignore established facts because
> they
> > make us look bad.
>
>
> And your response so well illustrates my point.
> lol


Hee hee. Atom is on your side you flaming faggot. Too funny! And so smart too! LOL!

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Re: No voting till your 25
Posted by: LoL! ()
Date: September 25, 2013 12:59PM

LOL! Wrote:
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> Tunnel Vision Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Atom Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Right, lets ignore established facts because
> > they
> > > make us look bad.
> >
> >
> > And your response so well illustrates my point.
> > lol
>
>
> Hee hee. Atom is on your side you flaming faggot.
> Too funny! And so smart too! LOL!


I don't think so. Perhaps you should re-read his post. And name-calling isn't helping either side.

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Re: No voting till your 25
Posted by: Liberal Logic 28 ()
Date: September 25, 2013 01:01PM

LOL! Wrote:
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> Atom Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> http://m.livescience.com/18132-intelligence-social
>
> > -conservatism-racism.html
>
>
> This has been thoroughly debunked. What? Liberal
> professors from a liberal university find that
> conservatives are dumb? Shocking. LOL!
>
> http://wmbriggs.com/blog/?p=5118

Liberals would lose their low information voter base if they passed that law.

Republicans are far more educated as a party than Liberals. Liberals have a flight advantage in post grade degrees since most conservatives are working at that point and have no interest in academia, but theres a huge advantage for republicans when it come to graduating high school.

So let them do that itd only be the death of their party. Sure theyd have all the academics voting but they can say good by to any election they wouldnt have won by at least 20 percentage points

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Re: No voting till your 25
Posted by: Liberal Logic 28 ()
Date: September 25, 2013 01:03PM

Bill.N. Wrote:
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> Ok. No having to serve in the military or pay
> income taxes until you are 25 either. If you
> don't have a say in how society is run you should
> have no obligation to support or defend that
> society.

You dont HAVE to serve in the military, but again pesky facts.

You VOLUNTEER for the military, its not the 1960s anymore no matter how much you wish they would return.

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Re: No voting till your 25
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: September 25, 2013 02:42PM

Liberal Logic 28 Wrote:
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> You dont HAVE to serve in the military, but again
> pesky facts.
>
> You VOLUNTEER for the military, its not the 1960s
> anymore no matter how much you wish they would
> return.

"Seriously though" at the beginning of the second paragraph should have made it clear that the first paragraph was hyperbole.

However since we are going down that road and taking my comment in the first paragraph seriously, the United States does REQUIRE males to register at age 18 so that the military will have the mechanisms in place to resort to a draft IF they decide they need it. This is a clear statement that the USG expects males between 18 and 25 to serve IF NEEDED. Your "facts" don't tell the whole story. While under present law we have a volunteer military, that is no assurance that we will not resort to the draft in the future, and more specifically at the point where we have raised the voting age so that prime draft prospects are not entitled to vote.

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Re: No voting till your 25
Posted by: Liberal Logic 28 ()
Date: September 25, 2013 03:12PM

Bill.N. Wrote:
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> "Seriously though" at the beginning of the second
> paragraph should have made it clear that the first
> paragraph was hyperbole.

Call it whatever you want, it was irrelevant.

> However since we are going down that road and
> taking my comment in the first paragraph
> seriously, the United States does REQUIRE males to
> register at age 18 so that the military will have
> the mechanisms in place to resort to a draft IF
> they decide they need it. This is a clear
> statement that the USG expects males between 18
> and 25 to serve IF NEEDED. Your "facts" don't
> tell the whole story. While under present law we
> have a volunteer military, that is no assurance
> that we will not resort to the draft in the
> future, and more specifically at the point where
> we have raised the voting age so that prime draft
> prospects are not entitled to vote.


We will never have a draft again. Weapons technology has made a draft obsolete not to mention the fact that only about 1 out of every 4 drafted soldiers were any good in Nam. The days of storming Normandy are over though.

Since females dont have to register anyway its a non issue for them. For males its a non starter for anyone in college who would get a deferment unless they chose not too and anyone disables or overweight who would be ineligible anyway.

But again it wont happen again unless we lose the last 40 years of technology somehow.

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