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Starbucks Joins other Chains - Bans All Guns in Stores
Posted by:
Kimmy S
()
Date: September 18, 2013 11:15AM
Another great reason to buy my morning cup of jo at Starbucks! Hurray!
Sept 17 (Reuters) - Starbucks Corp Chief Executive Howard Schultz requested on Tuesday that the coffee chain's customers leave their firearms at home, shifting company policy amid an increasingly fractious debate over U.S. gun rights in the wake of multiple mass shootings.
The request is being made in part because more people have been bringing guns into Starbucks over the last six months, prompting confusion and dismay among some patrons and employees, Schultz told Reuters in an interview.
In an open letter to customers issued late Tuesday, the chief executive said: "Our stores exist to give every customer a safe and comfortable respite from the concerns of daily life."
Starbucks' long-standing policy had been to default to local gun laws, including "open carry" regulations that allow people to bring guns into stores. It has nearly 7,000 company-operated U.S. stores.
That policy had frustrated U.S. gun-control advocates, who have persuaded many other restaurants and retailers to ban weapons in their stores and worked hard to get Starbucks to follow suit.
Sept 17 (Reuters) - Starbucks Corp Chief Executive Howard Schultz requested on Tuesday that the coffee chain's customers leave their firearms at home, shifting company policy amid an increasingly fractious debate over U.S. gun rights in the wake of multiple mass shootings.
The request is being made in part because more people have been bringing guns into Starbucks over the last six months, prompting confusion and dismay among some patrons and employees, Schultz told Reuters in an interview.
In an open letter to customers issued late Tuesday, the chief executive said: "Our stores exist to give every customer a safe and comfortable respite from the concerns of daily life."
Starbucks' long-standing policy had been to default to local gun laws, including "open carry" regulations that allow people to bring guns into stores. It has nearly 7,000 company-operated U.S. stores.
That policy had frustrated U.S. gun-control advocates, who have persuaded many other restaurants and retailers to ban weapons in their stores and worked hard to get Starbucks to follow suit.
Re: Starbucks Joins other Chains - Bans All Guns in Stores
Posted by:
EmanRuoy
()
Date: September 18, 2013 11:31AM
So according to other sources, there is a little more to this story than what the OP and Rueters are saying above...
Starbucks has "requested" that patrons not bring weapons into their stores, but they have not "banned" them...
From a story on Foxnews.com (about as far right as Rueters is far left)...
"Schultz hopes people will honor the request not to bring in guns but says the company will nevertheless serve those who do.
"We will not ask you to leave," he said."
Starbucks has "requested" that patrons not bring weapons into their stores, but they have not "banned" them...
From a story on Foxnews.com (about as far right as Rueters is far left)...
"Schultz hopes people will honor the request not to bring in guns but says the company will nevertheless serve those who do.
"We will not ask you to leave," he said."
Re: Starbucks Joins other Chains - Bans All Guns in Stores
Posted by:
just wow
()
Date: September 18, 2013 12:06PM
Kimmy S must feel so safe and secure knowing that no criminal or madman will shoot up a Starbucks now that Starbucks have "banned" firearms.
Your naivety would be cute if it wasn't so stupidly dangerous.
And no, I am not some sort of gun nut, just a realist that understands that banning weapons in places doesn't make them safer.
IIRC, the movie theater in Aurora banned firearms. How'd that work out?
Your naivety would be cute if it wasn't so stupidly dangerous.
And no, I am not some sort of gun nut, just a realist that understands that banning weapons in places doesn't make them safer.
IIRC, the movie theater in Aurora banned firearms. How'd that work out?
Re: Starbucks Joins other Chains - Bans All Guns in Stores
Posted by:
BEH
()
Date: September 18, 2013 01:49PM
Unless you're a cop, you have to be a real douchebag to openly carry in a store.
Gives RESPONSIBLE gun owners a bad name.
Gives RESPONSIBLE gun owners a bad name.
Re: Starbucks Joins other Chains - Bans All Guns in Stores
Posted by:
Vee Gees
()
Date: September 18, 2013 01:54PM
Hey OP, do you know the difference between "requesting" and "banning"? It would appear that you don't. Sad little man.
Re: Starbucks Joins other Chains - Bans All Guns in Stores
Posted by:
Trigger
()
Date: September 18, 2013 02:27PM
Hey fuck you, Howard! The only way I'm loosening my grip on my piece...is to move it to my other hand so that I can grab my Horkenberry Fiber Chunk Latte.
Re: Starbucks Joins other Chains - Bans All Guns in Stores
Posted by:
Dead Wallaby
()
Date: September 18, 2013 02:32PM
BEH Wrote:
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> Unless you're a cop, you have to be a real
> douchebag to openly carry in a store.
>
> Gives RESPONSIBLE gun owners a bad name.
I agree. These nut jobs are wanta be cops that think having a gun on them will keep them from being robbed.
They wouldn't last five minutes in the hood or a bad DC neighborhood. They'd be robbed and shot after pissing their pants.
Yuppies with CCP's, what a laugh.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Unless you're a cop, you have to be a real
> douchebag to openly carry in a store.
>
> Gives RESPONSIBLE gun owners a bad name.
I agree. These nut jobs are wanta be cops that think having a gun on them will keep them from being robbed.
They wouldn't last five minutes in the hood or a bad DC neighborhood. They'd be robbed and shot after pissing their pants.
Yuppies with CCP's, what a laugh.
Re: Starbucks Joins other Chains - Bans All Guns in Stores
Posted by:
Ralph Pootawn
()
Date: September 18, 2013 02:36PM
Dead Wallaby Wrote:
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> BEH Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Unless you're a cop, you have to be a real
> > douchebag to openly carry in a store.
> >
> > Gives RESPONSIBLE gun owners a bad name.
>
> I agree. These nut jobs are wanta be cops that
> think having a gun on them will keep them from
> being robbed.
>
> They wouldn't last five minutes in the hood or a
> bad DC neighborhood. They'd be robbed and shot
> after pissing their pants.
>
> Yuppies with CCP's, what a laugh.
Attachments:
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> BEH Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Unless you're a cop, you have to be a real
> > douchebag to openly carry in a store.
> >
> > Gives RESPONSIBLE gun owners a bad name.
>
> I agree. These nut jobs are wanta be cops that
> think having a gun on them will keep them from
> being robbed.
>
> They wouldn't last five minutes in the hood or a
> bad DC neighborhood. They'd be robbed and shot
> after pissing their pants.
>
> Yuppies with CCP's, what a laugh.
Attachments:
Re: Starbucks Joins other Chains - Bans All Guns in Stores
Posted by:
"running thru the jungle"
()
Date: September 18, 2013 02:45PM
BEH Wrote:
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> Unless you're a cop, you have to be a real
> douchebag to openly carry in a store.
>
> Gives RESPONSIBLE gun owners a bad name.
A RESPONSIBLE gun owner has his weapon at home locked.
This ain't Tombstone and even Wyatt Earp fucked the pooch.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Unless you're a cop, you have to be a real
> douchebag to openly carry in a store.
>
> Gives RESPONSIBLE gun owners a bad name.
A RESPONSIBLE gun owner has his weapon at home locked.
This ain't Tombstone and even Wyatt Earp fucked the pooch.
Re: Starbucks Joins other Chains - Bans All Guns in Stores
Posted by:
Stabitha
()
Date: September 18, 2013 03:13PM
The OP must be a libtard moron. The article says,"Starbucks Corp Chief Executive Howard Schultz REQUESTED on Tuesday that the coffee chain's customers leave their firearms at home"
Learn to read OP!
Learn to read OP!
Re: Starbucks Joins other Chains - Bans All Guns in Stores
Posted by:
Step in right direction?
()
Date: September 18, 2013 03:29PM
How will that help to decrease gun violence? I don't get it?
Re: Starbucks Joins other Chains - Bans All Guns in Stores
Posted by:
Just sing Kumbaya
()
Date: September 18, 2013 03:37PM
"running thru the jungle" Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> BEH Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Unless you're a cop, you have to be a real
> > douchebag to openly carry in a store.
> >
> > Gives RESPONSIBLE gun owners a bad name.
>
> A RESPONSIBLE gun owner has his weapon at home
> locked.
> This ain't Tombstone and even Wyatt Earp fucked
> the pooch.
I agree.
Home is where the Navy Yard employee's personal guns were on Monday.
Home is where the Sandy Hook employee's personal guns were when they were attacked.
Home is where the patron's personal guns were when the theater in Aurora, CO was attacked.
Home is where the soldiers and staff's guns were when Ft. Hood was attacked.
Home is where the student, faculty and staff's guns were when Virginia Tech was attacked.
Home is where the teachers and staff's guns were when Columbine was attacked.
However once attacked, the call immediately goes out (always too late) for someone with a gun.
-------------------------------------------------------
> BEH Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Unless you're a cop, you have to be a real
> > douchebag to openly carry in a store.
> >
> > Gives RESPONSIBLE gun owners a bad name.
>
> A RESPONSIBLE gun owner has his weapon at home
> locked.
> This ain't Tombstone and even Wyatt Earp fucked
> the pooch.
I agree.
Home is where the Navy Yard employee's personal guns were on Monday.
Home is where the Sandy Hook employee's personal guns were when they were attacked.
Home is where the patron's personal guns were when the theater in Aurora, CO was attacked.
Home is where the soldiers and staff's guns were when Ft. Hood was attacked.
Home is where the student, faculty and staff's guns were when Virginia Tech was attacked.
Home is where the teachers and staff's guns were when Columbine was attacked.
However once attacked, the call immediately goes out (always too late) for someone with a gun.
Re: Starbucks Joins other Chains - Bans All Guns in Stores
Posted by:
Got it
()
Date: September 18, 2013 03:38PM
Step in right direction? Wrote:
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> How will that help to decrease gun violence? I
> don't get it?
It will keep those idiots with CCP from "Oops it accidently went off and killed somebody. Sorry"
It probably just to get insurance rates lowered at Starbucks.
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> How will that help to decrease gun violence? I
> don't get it?
It will keep those idiots with CCP from "Oops it accidently went off and killed somebody. Sorry"
It probably just to get insurance rates lowered at Starbucks.
Re: Starbucks Joins other Chains - Bans All Guns in Stores
Posted by:
Step in right direction?
()
Date: September 18, 2013 03:45PM
Got it Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Step in right direction? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > How will that help to decrease gun violence? I
> > don't get it?
>
> It will keep those idiots with CCP from "Oops it
> accidently went off and killed somebody. Sorry"
>
> It probably just to get insurance rates lowered at
> Starbucks.
Maybe, If those idiots don't do it in Starbucks, they will just do it someplace else though. Give a gun to a retard; and there will be consequences.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Step in right direction? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > How will that help to decrease gun violence? I
> > don't get it?
>
> It will keep those idiots with CCP from "Oops it
> accidently went off and killed somebody. Sorry"
>
> It probably just to get insurance rates lowered at
> Starbucks.
Maybe, If those idiots don't do it in Starbucks, they will just do it someplace else though. Give a gun to a retard; and there will be consequences.
Re: Starbucks Joins other Chains - Bans All Guns in Stores
Posted by:
p3VXE
()
Date: September 18, 2013 03:58PM
Step in right direction? Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Got it Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Step in right direction? Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > How will that help to decrease gun violence?
> I
> > > don't get it?
> >
> > It will keep those idiots with CCP from "Oops
> it
> > accidently went off and killed somebody. Sorry"
> >
> > It probably just to get insurance rates lowered
> at
> > Starbucks.
>
> Maybe, If those idiots don't do it in Starbucks,
> they will just do it someplace else though. Give
> a gun to a retard; and there will be consequences.
^ Give a keyboard to a retard...
-------------------------------------------------------
> Got it Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Step in right direction? Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > How will that help to decrease gun violence?
> I
> > > don't get it?
> >
> > It will keep those idiots with CCP from "Oops
> it
> > accidently went off and killed somebody. Sorry"
> >
> > It probably just to get insurance rates lowered
> at
> > Starbucks.
>
> Maybe, If those idiots don't do it in Starbucks,
> they will just do it someplace else though. Give
> a gun to a retard; and there will be consequences.
^ Give a keyboard to a retard...
Re: Starbucks Joins other Chains - Bans All Guns in Stores
Posted by:
FCPD: OFFICIAL
()
Date: September 18, 2013 04:06PM
Just sing Kumbaya Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> "running thru the jungle" Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > BEH Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Unless you're a cop, you have to be a real
> > > douchebag to openly carry in a store.
> > >
> > > Gives RESPONSIBLE gun owners a bad name.
> >
> > A RESPONSIBLE gun owner has his weapon at home
> > locked.
> > This ain't Tombstone and even Wyatt Earp fucked
> > the pooch.
>
>
> I agree.
> Home is where the Navy Yard employee's personal
> guns were on Monday.
> Home is where the Sandy Hook employee's personal
> guns were when they were attacked.
> Home is where the patron's personal guns were when
> the theater in Aurora, CO was attacked.
> Home is where the soldiers and staff's guns were
> when Ft. Hood was attacked.
> Home is where the student, faculty and staff's
> guns were when Virginia Tech was attacked.
> Home is where the teachers and staff's guns were
> when Columbine was attacked.
>
> However once attacked, the call immediately goes
> out (always too late) for someone with a gun.
When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.
-------------------------------------------------------
> "running thru the jungle" Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > BEH Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Unless you're a cop, you have to be a real
> > > douchebag to openly carry in a store.
> > >
> > > Gives RESPONSIBLE gun owners a bad name.
> >
> > A RESPONSIBLE gun owner has his weapon at home
> > locked.
> > This ain't Tombstone and even Wyatt Earp fucked
> > the pooch.
>
>
> I agree.
> Home is where the Navy Yard employee's personal
> guns were on Monday.
> Home is where the Sandy Hook employee's personal
> guns were when they were attacked.
> Home is where the patron's personal guns were when
> the theater in Aurora, CO was attacked.
> Home is where the soldiers and staff's guns were
> when Ft. Hood was attacked.
> Home is where the student, faculty and staff's
> guns were when Virginia Tech was attacked.
> Home is where the teachers and staff's guns were
> when Columbine was attacked.
>
> However once attacked, the call immediately goes
> out (always too late) for someone with a gun.
When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.
Re: Starbucks Joins other Chains - Bans All Guns in Stores
Posted by:
Aaron A.
()
Date: September 18, 2013 04:08PM
Got it Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Step in right direction? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > How will that help to decrease gun violence? I
> > don't get it?
>
> It will keep those idiots with CCP from "Oops it
> accidently went off and killed somebody. Sorry"
>
> It probably just to get insurance rates lowered at
> Starbucks.
Sure, because that happens all the time. Like just the other day I was standing in line at SFW to pay for my baby mama's food with my WIC checks and some cracka with a CCP had it gun go off right on the spot. I saw first hand how the safety slid itself to off, the trigger then quickly moved and BAM! Shots fired! Shots fired!
Get a clue or get off the internet.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Step in right direction? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > How will that help to decrease gun violence? I
> > don't get it?
>
> It will keep those idiots with CCP from "Oops it
> accidently went off and killed somebody. Sorry"
>
> It probably just to get insurance rates lowered at
> Starbucks.
Sure, because that happens all the time. Like just the other day I was standing in line at SFW to pay for my baby mama's food with my WIC checks and some cracka with a CCP had it gun go off right on the spot. I saw first hand how the safety slid itself to off, the trigger then quickly moved and BAM! Shots fired! Shots fired!
Get a clue or get off the internet.
Re: Starbucks Joins other Chains - Bans All Guns in Stores
Posted by:
And pigs fly
()
Date: September 18, 2013 04:08PM
Step in right direction? Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Got it Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Step in right direction? Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > How will that help to decrease gun violence?
> I
> > > don't get it?
> >
> > It will keep those idiots with CCP from "Oops
> it
> > accidently went off and killed somebody. Sorry"
> >
> > It probably just to get insurance rates lowered
> at
> > Starbucks.
>
> Maybe, If those idiots don't do it in Starbucks,
> they will just do it someplace else though. Give
> a gun to a retard; and there will be consequences.
How many times has a CCP holder been in a store (Starbucks or other) and their gun accidently went off and killed someone? Do libs just sit around and think up the stupidest situation they can think of to see how many of their kind will agree with them? No wonder they cannot have an intelligent conversation about guns.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Got it Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Step in right direction? Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > How will that help to decrease gun violence?
> I
> > > don't get it?
> >
> > It will keep those idiots with CCP from "Oops
> it
> > accidently went off and killed somebody. Sorry"
> >
> > It probably just to get insurance rates lowered
> at
> > Starbucks.
>
> Maybe, If those idiots don't do it in Starbucks,
> they will just do it someplace else though. Give
> a gun to a retard; and there will be consequences.
How many times has a CCP holder been in a store (Starbucks or other) and their gun accidently went off and killed someone? Do libs just sit around and think up the stupidest situation they can think of to see how many of their kind will agree with them? No wonder they cannot have an intelligent conversation about guns.
Re: Starbucks Joins other Chains - Bans All Guns in Stores
Posted by:
Democrats are bigots: true
()
Date: September 18, 2013 04:14PM
And pigs fly: Yes, yes they do. They sit around in their echo chamber and work themselves up into a lather to the point where the divergence between their beliefs and reality no longer matters.
Re: Starbucks Joins other Chains - Bans All Guns in Stores
Posted by:
Liberal Logic 28
()
Date: September 18, 2013 04:20PM
And pigs fly Wrote:
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> How many times has a CCP holder been in a store
> (Starbucks or other) and their gun accidently went
> off and killed someone? Do libs just sit around
> and think up the stupidest situation they can
> think of to see how many of their kind will agree
> with them? No wonder they cannot have an
> intelligent conversation about guns.
Actually they probably really believe this shit from being so brainwashed. The worst part is they think its cute and theyre being "intellectual"
-------------------------------------------------------
> How many times has a CCP holder been in a store
> (Starbucks or other) and their gun accidently went
> off and killed someone? Do libs just sit around
> and think up the stupidest situation they can
> think of to see how many of their kind will agree
> with them? No wonder they cannot have an
> intelligent conversation about guns.
Actually they probably really believe this shit from being so brainwashed. The worst part is they think its cute and theyre being "intellectual"
Re: Starbucks Joins other Chains - Bans All Guns in Stores
Posted by:
CB
()
Date: September 18, 2013 04:31PM
Liberal Logic 28 Wrote:
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> And pigs fly Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > How many times has a CCP holder been in a store
> > (Starbucks or other) and their gun accidently
> went
> > off and killed someone? Do libs just sit
> around
> > and think up the stupidest situation they can
> > think of to see how many of their kind will
> agree
> > with them? No wonder they cannot have an
> > intelligent conversation about guns.
>
> Actually they probably really believe this shit
> from being so brainwashed. The worst part is they
> think its cute and theyre being "intellectual"
Use proper punctuation you dumb hillbilly!^^^^^^^
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> And pigs fly Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > How many times has a CCP holder been in a store
> > (Starbucks or other) and their gun accidently
> went
> > off and killed someone? Do libs just sit
> around
> > and think up the stupidest situation they can
> > think of to see how many of their kind will
> agree
> > with them? No wonder they cannot have an
> > intelligent conversation about guns.
>
> Actually they probably really believe this shit
> from being so brainwashed. The worst part is they
> think its cute and theyre being "intellectual"
Use proper punctuation you dumb hillbilly!^^^^^^^
Re: Starbucks Joins other Chains - Bans All Guns in Stores
Posted by:
And pigs fly
()
Date: September 18, 2013 04:40PM
CB Wrote:
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> Liberal Logic 28 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > And pigs fly Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> >
> > > How many times has a CCP holder been in a
> store
> > > (Starbucks or other) and their gun accidently
> > went
> > > off and killed someone? Do libs just sit
> > around
> > > and think up the stupidest situation they can
> > > think of to see how many of their kind will
> > agree
> > > with them? No wonder they cannot have an
> > > intelligent conversation about guns.
> >
> > Actually they probably really believe this shit
> > from being so brainwashed. The worst part is
> they
> > think its cute and theyre being "intellectual"
>
>
> Use proper punctuation you dumb hillbilly!^^^^^^^
Translation: I am too dumb to carry on an intelligent conversation about guns, so I will attack your punctuation and call you a name.
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> Liberal Logic 28 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > And pigs fly Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> >
> > > How many times has a CCP holder been in a
> store
> > > (Starbucks or other) and their gun accidently
> > went
> > > off and killed someone? Do libs just sit
> > around
> > > and think up the stupidest situation they can
> > > think of to see how many of their kind will
> > agree
> > > with them? No wonder they cannot have an
> > > intelligent conversation about guns.
> >
> > Actually they probably really believe this shit
> > from being so brainwashed. The worst part is
> they
> > think its cute and theyre being "intellectual"
>
>
> Use proper punctuation you dumb hillbilly!^^^^^^^
Translation: I am too dumb to carry on an intelligent conversation about guns, so I will attack your punctuation and call you a name.
Re: Starbucks Joins other Chains - Bans All Guns in Stores
Posted by:
Errf
()
Date: September 18, 2013 04:57PM
Starbucks didn't ban gun owners!
Starbucks just said gun owners were not welcome and please go some other place.
Aka, Starbucks culture is one that doesn't support guns.
The chief executive said: "Our stores exist to give every customer a safe and comfortable respite from the concerns of daily life."
Starbucks just said gun owners were not welcome and please go some other place.
Aka, Starbucks culture is one that doesn't support guns.
The chief executive said: "Our stores exist to give every customer a safe and comfortable respite from the concerns of daily life."
Re: Starbucks Joins other Chains - Bans All Guns in Stores
Posted by:
Tough One
()
Date: September 18, 2013 05:16PM
Its just a request, so I hope other civilized and law abiding citizens, will continue to pack heat at Starbucks and everywhere else.
Re: Starbucks Joins other Chains - Bans All Guns in Stores
Posted by:
And pigs fly
()
Date: September 18, 2013 05:22PM
Errf Wrote:
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> Starbucks didn't ban gun owners!
>
> Starbucks just said gun owners were not welcome
> and please go some other place.
Reading and comprehension is not a strong suit for you is it? What was said by Starbucks is discussed above. I suggest you find the smartest person you know and have them explain what was really said. Take these baby steps and you will be able to think for yourself soon.
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> Starbucks didn't ban gun owners!
>
> Starbucks just said gun owners were not welcome
> and please go some other place.
Reading and comprehension is not a strong suit for you is it? What was said by Starbucks is discussed above. I suggest you find the smartest person you know and have them explain what was really said. Take these baby steps and you will be able to think for yourself soon.
Re: Starbucks Joins other Chains - Bans All Guns in Stores
Posted by:
Stabitha
()
Date: September 18, 2013 06:24PM
Errf Wrote:
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> >
> The chief executive said: "Our stores exist to
> overcharge every customer and give a safe and comfortable respite
> from the concerns of how little money they will have left in their pocket when they leave"
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> >
> The chief executive said: "Our stores exist to
> overcharge every customer and give a safe and comfortable respite
> from the concerns of how little money they will have left in their pocket when they leave"
Re: Starbucks Joins other Chains - Bans All Guns in Stores
Posted by:
Accidents waiting to happen
()
Date: September 18, 2013 06:27PM
Just sing Kumbaya Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> "running thru the jungle" Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > BEH Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Unless you're a cop, you have to be a real
> > > douchebag to openly carry in a store.
> > >
> > > Gives RESPONSIBLE gun owners a bad name.
> >
> > A RESPONSIBLE gun owner has his weapon at home
> > locked.
> > This ain't Tombstone and even Wyatt Earp fucked
> > the pooch.
>
>
> I agree.
> Home is where the Navy Yard employee's personal
> guns were on Monday.
> Home is where the Sandy Hook employee's personal
> guns were when they were attacked.
> Home is where the patron's personal guns were when
> the theater in Aurora, CO was attacked.
> Home is where the soldiers and staff's guns were
> when Ft. Hood was attacked.
> Home is where the student, faculty and staff's
> guns were when Virginia Tech was attacked.
> Home is where the teachers and staff's guns were
> when Columbine was attacked.
>
> However once attacked, the call immediately goes
> out (always too late) for someone with a gun.
How many lives have you saved with your gun?
-------------------------------------------------------
> "running thru the jungle" Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > BEH Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Unless you're a cop, you have to be a real
> > > douchebag to openly carry in a store.
> > >
> > > Gives RESPONSIBLE gun owners a bad name.
> >
> > A RESPONSIBLE gun owner has his weapon at home
> > locked.
> > This ain't Tombstone and even Wyatt Earp fucked
> > the pooch.
>
>
> I agree.
> Home is where the Navy Yard employee's personal
> guns were on Monday.
> Home is where the Sandy Hook employee's personal
> guns were when they were attacked.
> Home is where the patron's personal guns were when
> the theater in Aurora, CO was attacked.
> Home is where the soldiers and staff's guns were
> when Ft. Hood was attacked.
> Home is where the student, faculty and staff's
> guns were when Virginia Tech was attacked.
> Home is where the teachers and staff's guns were
> when Columbine was attacked.
>
> However once attacked, the call immediately goes
> out (always too late) for someone with a gun.
How many lives have you saved with your gun?
Re: Starbucks Joins other Chains - Bans All Guns in Stores
Posted by:
You Sure Don't "Got It"
()
Date: September 18, 2013 06:46PM
Got it Wrote:
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> It will keep those idiots with CCP from "Oops it
> accidently went off and killed somebody. Sorry"
Cite one case where that has ever happened?
I carry concealed with the emphasis on concealed.
I routinely carry where signs forbid guns.
Mine is never exposed.
You would never know unless it is needed.
-------------------------------------------------------
> It will keep those idiots with CCP from "Oops it
> accidently went off and killed somebody. Sorry"
Cite one case where that has ever happened?
I carry concealed with the emphasis on concealed.
I routinely carry where signs forbid guns.
Mine is never exposed.
You would never know unless it is needed.
Re: Starbucks Joins other Chains - Bans All Guns in Stores
Posted by:
Stabitha
()
Date: September 18, 2013 06:51PM
"running thru the jungle" Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> BEH Wrote:
> > A RESPONSIBLE gun owner has his weapon at home
> locked.
> This ain't Tombstone and even Wyatt Earp fucked
> the pooch.
Tell that to the residents of Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore, DC, Miami, New Orleans, etc. etc.
-------------------------------------------------------
> BEH Wrote:
> > A RESPONSIBLE gun owner has his weapon at home
> locked.
> This ain't Tombstone and even Wyatt Earp fucked
> the pooch.
Tell that to the residents of Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore, DC, Miami, New Orleans, etc. etc.
Re: Starbucks Joins other Chains - Bans All Guns in Stores
Posted by:
RedRubby
()
Date: September 18, 2013 07:08PM
Do everyone remember NRA solution to Newton school is to have more gun in response? I guessing after this Monday, they had find out that this proposal does not work. Even if it is a gun free zone. I am sure that there were hero carrying weapon of their own also in that yard and it did not save any lives.
It time to stop taking the coward way out of this epidemic and come up with a good solution that will help save lives. It look like it was a background check issues this time that contribute to this tragedy.
It time to stop taking the coward way out of this epidemic and come up with a good solution that will help save lives. It look like it was a background check issues this time that contribute to this tragedy.
Re: Starbucks Joins other Chains - Bans All Guns in Stores
Posted by:
Just sing Kumbaya
()
Date: September 18, 2013 08:02PM
Accidents waiting to happen Wrote:
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> Just sing Kumbaya Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > "running thru the jungle" Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > BEH Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Unless you're a cop, you have to be a real
> > > > douchebag to openly carry in a store.
> > > >
> > > > Gives RESPONSIBLE gun owners a bad name.
> > >
> > > A RESPONSIBLE gun owner has his weapon at
> home
> > > locked.
> > > This ain't Tombstone and even Wyatt Earp
> fucked
> > > the pooch.
> >
> >
> > I agree.
> > Home is where the Navy Yard employee's personal
> > guns were on Monday.
> > Home is where the Sandy Hook employee's
> personal
> > guns were when they were attacked.
> > Home is where the patron's personal guns were
> when
> > the theater in Aurora, CO was attacked.
> > Home is where the soldiers and staff's guns
> were
> > when Ft. Hood was attacked.
> > Home is where the student, faculty and staff's
> > guns were when Virginia Tech was attacked.
> > Home is where the teachers and staff's guns
> were
> > when Columbine was attacked.
> >
> > However once attacked, the call immediately
> goes
> > out (always too late) for someone with a gun.
>
> How many lives have you saved with your gun?
Is that really your best response? We are talking about Starbucks and how gun free zones are not effective. What does how many lives I saved have to do with the topic?
-------------------------------------------------------
> Just sing Kumbaya Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > "running thru the jungle" Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > BEH Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Unless you're a cop, you have to be a real
> > > > douchebag to openly carry in a store.
> > > >
> > > > Gives RESPONSIBLE gun owners a bad name.
> > >
> > > A RESPONSIBLE gun owner has his weapon at
> home
> > > locked.
> > > This ain't Tombstone and even Wyatt Earp
> fucked
> > > the pooch.
> >
> >
> > I agree.
> > Home is where the Navy Yard employee's personal
> > guns were on Monday.
> > Home is where the Sandy Hook employee's
> personal
> > guns were when they were attacked.
> > Home is where the patron's personal guns were
> when
> > the theater in Aurora, CO was attacked.
> > Home is where the soldiers and staff's guns
> were
> > when Ft. Hood was attacked.
> > Home is where the student, faculty and staff's
> > guns were when Virginia Tech was attacked.
> > Home is where the teachers and staff's guns
> were
> > when Columbine was attacked.
> >
> > However once attacked, the call immediately
> goes
> > out (always too late) for someone with a gun.
>
> How many lives have you saved with your gun?
Is that really your best response? We are talking about Starbucks and how gun free zones are not effective. What does how many lives I saved have to do with the topic?
Re: Starbucks Joins other Chains - Bans All Guns in Stores
Posted by:
Pathetic Hillbillies
()
Date: September 18, 2013 08:09PM
"Our stores exist to give every customer a safe and comfortable respite from the concerns of daily life."
That would include people like me, who don't want to be exposed to your fucking guns. The fact that you feel compelled to openly carry them is an implied threat to everyone around you. And, let's face it, you're not carrying a gun for protection - you're carrying it to feel like 'a real man'. You're all a bunch of George Zimmerman's just waiting to go off.
That would include people like me, who don't want to be exposed to your fucking guns. The fact that you feel compelled to openly carry them is an implied threat to everyone around you. And, let's face it, you're not carrying a gun for protection - you're carrying it to feel like 'a real man'. You're all a bunch of George Zimmerman's just waiting to go off.
Re: Starbucks Joins other Chains - Bans All Guns in Stores
Posted by:
Dick Tinycox
()
Date: September 18, 2013 08:17PM
You Sure Don't "Got It" Wrote:
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> Got it Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> Mine is never exposed.
> You would never know unless it is needed.
Are you scared because your thing is small?
-------------------------------------------------------
> Got it Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> Mine is never exposed.
> You would never know unless it is needed.
Are you scared because your thing is small?
Re: Starbucks Joins other Chains - Bans All Guns in Stores
Posted by:
eesh
()
Date: September 18, 2013 08:57PM
What is katiesmith's opinion on this matter?
Re: Starbucks Joins other Chains - Bans All Guns in Stores
Posted by:
Stabitha
()
Date: September 18, 2013 09:03PM
Pathetic Hillbillies Wrote:
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> >
> That would include people like me, who don't want
> to be exposed to your fucking guns. The fact that
> you feel compelled to openly carry them is an
> implied threat to everyone around you. And, let's
> face it, you're not carrying a gun for protection
> - you're carrying it to feel like 'a real man'.
> You're all a bunch of George Zimmerman's just
> waiting to go off.
I hope you get jumped one night and filled full of bullets all the while franticly calling 911 and waiting for the cops to show up. And I hope it happens while you have a Starbucks coffee in your hand!
-------------------------------------------------------
> >
> That would include people like me, who don't want
> to be exposed to your fucking guns. The fact that
> you feel compelled to openly carry them is an
> implied threat to everyone around you. And, let's
> face it, you're not carrying a gun for protection
> - you're carrying it to feel like 'a real man'.
> You're all a bunch of George Zimmerman's just
> waiting to go off.
I hope you get jumped one night and filled full of bullets all the while franticly calling 911 and waiting for the cops to show up. And I hope it happens while you have a Starbucks coffee in your hand!
Re: Starbucks Joins other Chains - Bans All Guns in Stores
Posted by:
Liberal Logic 28
()
Date: September 18, 2013 09:34PM
Pathetic Hillbillies Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> "Our stores exist to give every customer a safe
> and comfortable respite from the concerns of daily
> life."
>
> That would include people like me, who don't want
> to be exposed to your fucking guns. The fact that
> you feel compelled to openly carry them is an
> implied threat to everyone around you. And, let's
> face it, you're not carrying a gun for protection
> - you're carrying it to feel like 'a real man'.
> You're all a bunch of George Zimmerman's just
> waiting to go off.
Move to Baltimore then, or Chicago, or Cleveland if youre that stupid. Youre exposed to hundreds of guns a day in VA if not more and you dont have a clue theyre there because responsible people own them. But morons like you think they arent around unless you see it.
-------------------------------------------------------
> "Our stores exist to give every customer a safe
> and comfortable respite from the concerns of daily
> life."
>
> That would include people like me, who don't want
> to be exposed to your fucking guns. The fact that
> you feel compelled to openly carry them is an
> implied threat to everyone around you. And, let's
> face it, you're not carrying a gun for protection
> - you're carrying it to feel like 'a real man'.
> You're all a bunch of George Zimmerman's just
> waiting to go off.
Move to Baltimore then, or Chicago, or Cleveland if youre that stupid. Youre exposed to hundreds of guns a day in VA if not more and you dont have a clue theyre there because responsible people own them. But morons like you think they arent around unless you see it.
Re: Starbucks Joins other Chains - Bans All Guns in Stores
Posted by:
Liberal Logic 28
()
Date: September 18, 2013 09:39PM
RedRubby Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Do everyone remember NRA solution to Newton school
> is to have more gun in response? I guessing after
> this Monday, they had find out that this proposal
> does not work. Even if it is a gun free zone. I am
> sure that there were hero carrying weapon of their
> own also in that yard and it did not save any
> lives.
What the fuck are you talking about?
He was stopped with a gun.
There was no one armed but the poorly trained security officers there because guess what the military and the law abiding citizens followed the law.
These liberal posts are getting dumber and dumber and dumber every time
-------------------------------------------------------
> Do everyone remember NRA solution to Newton school
> is to have more gun in response? I guessing after
> this Monday, they had find out that this proposal
> does not work. Even if it is a gun free zone. I am
> sure that there were hero carrying weapon of their
> own also in that yard and it did not save any
> lives.
What the fuck are you talking about?
He was stopped with a gun.
There was no one armed but the poorly trained security officers there because guess what the military and the law abiding citizens followed the law.
These liberal posts are getting dumber and dumber and dumber every time
Re: Starbucks Joins other Chains - Bans All Guns in Stores
Posted by:
To much caffeine?
()
Date: September 18, 2013 10:25PM
Stabitha Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Pathetic Hillbillies Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > >
> > That would include people like me, who don't
> want
> > to be exposed to your fucking guns. The fact
> that
> > you feel compelled to openly carry them is an
> > implied threat to everyone around you. And,
> let's
> > face it, you're not carrying a gun for
> protection
> > - you're carrying it to feel like 'a real man'.
> > You're all a bunch of George Zimmerman's just
> > waiting to go off.
>
> I hope you get jumped one night and filled full of
> bullets all the while franticly calling 911 and
> waiting for the cops to show up. And I hope it
> happens while you have a Starbucks coffee in your
> hand!
Very mature response,Yucky er Stabitha.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Pathetic Hillbillies Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > >
> > That would include people like me, who don't
> want
> > to be exposed to your fucking guns. The fact
> that
> > you feel compelled to openly carry them is an
> > implied threat to everyone around you. And,
> let's
> > face it, you're not carrying a gun for
> protection
> > - you're carrying it to feel like 'a real man'.
> > You're all a bunch of George Zimmerman's just
> > waiting to go off.
>
> I hope you get jumped one night and filled full of
> bullets all the while franticly calling 911 and
> waiting for the cops to show up. And I hope it
> happens while you have a Starbucks coffee in your
> hand!
Very mature response,Yucky er Stabitha.
Re: Starbucks Joins other Chains - Bans All Guns in Stores
Posted by:
From Da Hood -- The Original
()
Date: September 18, 2013 11:01PM
I'd like to say who the hell really cares. I don't drink coffee and when I did, Starbucks often tasted like the oil that drips from my car.
What more could people expect from such a Liberal company?
Time to ban Starbucks. It was very easy for me to do ...and, I have about $1,000 extra per year in my pocket.
Buh Bye, Starbucks!!
What more could people expect from such a Liberal company?
Time to ban Starbucks. It was very easy for me to do ...and, I have about $1,000 extra per year in my pocket.
Buh Bye, Starbucks!!
Re: Starbucks Joins other Chains - Bans All Guns in Stores
Posted by:
dkMvn
()
Date: September 18, 2013 11:19PM
From Da Hood -- The Original Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Time to ban Starbucks. It was very easy for me to
> do ...and, I have about $1,000 extra per year in
> my pocket.
>
> Buh Bye, Starbucks!!
Shultz hasn't banned guns yet, but he's trying to walk a fine line. I do think the pro-2nd people should avoid making a scene, or he will probably ban them.
But Starbucks, let me put your decision into perspective: The people who want you to ban guns in your stores, are the same assholes that were throwing garbage cans through your windows during the WTO meetings. They're the same cunts who are ranting about corporate coffee, etc, etc.
Don't be fooled into thinking these people spend more or even as much money in your stores as the pro 2nd people do.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Time to ban Starbucks. It was very easy for me to
> do ...and, I have about $1,000 extra per year in
> my pocket.
>
> Buh Bye, Starbucks!!
Shultz hasn't banned guns yet, but he's trying to walk a fine line. I do think the pro-2nd people should avoid making a scene, or he will probably ban them.
But Starbucks, let me put your decision into perspective: The people who want you to ban guns in your stores, are the same assholes that were throwing garbage cans through your windows during the WTO meetings. They're the same cunts who are ranting about corporate coffee, etc, etc.
Don't be fooled into thinking these people spend more or even as much money in your stores as the pro 2nd people do.
Re: Starbucks Joins other Chains - Bans All Guns in Stores
Posted by:
vkcWF
()
Date: September 19, 2013 12:58AM
He actually did just the opposite. He made the decision NOT to ban them. Nor did he say that gun owners should go somewhere else.
What he really said:
“Starbucks is not a policymaker, and we are not pro- or anti-gun,” he explained. “However, in excess of the last handful of months or so, we have noticed ourselves thrust into this discussion in a way that is not constant with the values and guiding principles of our firm.”
Schultz cited the use of Starbucks retailers as the site for demonstrations by both gun-management advocates and gun fanatics in the months subsequent the fatal Dec. twelve mass capturing at Sandy Hook Elementary University in Newtown, Conn.
He explained that individuals on both sides of the concern experienced used the cafés “as staging grounds for their own situation as recently as final month. And in check out of that, Starbucks has been mischaracterized and misrepresented on either aspect of the issue.”
Schultz also explained that laws that enable citizens to carry firearms have been “very confusing and ambiguous for numerous folks about the place.”
As a result, “when a particular person legally is carrying a gun and decides to wander into a Starbucks retailer, I consider our buyers and young young children are tremendously awkward and fairly jarred from the encounter,” he said. “And we have just come to the summary that we are not anti-gun, we are not professional-gun, but guns ought to not be element of the Starbucks knowledge.”
Schultz emphasized that Starbucks was not issuing an outright ban on guns at its retailers, nor would it implement its ask for that patrons not have weapons inside.
“So anyone who does not respectfully honor the policy, we are still going to serve you, we are likely to honor your enterprise as a consumer, and we are going to go on with our working day,” he stated. “But we think the large majority of Americans will recognize the policy, will think it really is reasonable, and most individuals will, I feel, regard the request.”
Sounds reasonable to me and I'd expect that most would respect that.
What he really said:
“Starbucks is not a policymaker, and we are not pro- or anti-gun,” he explained. “However, in excess of the last handful of months or so, we have noticed ourselves thrust into this discussion in a way that is not constant with the values and guiding principles of our firm.”
Schultz cited the use of Starbucks retailers as the site for demonstrations by both gun-management advocates and gun fanatics in the months subsequent the fatal Dec. twelve mass capturing at Sandy Hook Elementary University in Newtown, Conn.
He explained that individuals on both sides of the concern experienced used the cafés “as staging grounds for their own situation as recently as final month. And in check out of that, Starbucks has been mischaracterized and misrepresented on either aspect of the issue.”
Schultz also explained that laws that enable citizens to carry firearms have been “very confusing and ambiguous for numerous folks about the place.”
As a result, “when a particular person legally is carrying a gun and decides to wander into a Starbucks retailer, I consider our buyers and young young children are tremendously awkward and fairly jarred from the encounter,” he said. “And we have just come to the summary that we are not anti-gun, we are not professional-gun, but guns ought to not be element of the Starbucks knowledge.”
Schultz emphasized that Starbucks was not issuing an outright ban on guns at its retailers, nor would it implement its ask for that patrons not have weapons inside.
“So anyone who does not respectfully honor the policy, we are still going to serve you, we are likely to honor your enterprise as a consumer, and we are going to go on with our working day,” he stated. “But we think the large majority of Americans will recognize the policy, will think it really is reasonable, and most individuals will, I feel, regard the request.”
Sounds reasonable to me and I'd expect that most would respect that.
Re: Starbucks Joins other Chains - Bans All Guns in Stores
Posted by:
From Da Hood -- The Original
()
Date: September 19, 2013 04:50AM
OK, let's put things into perspective. More gay Starbucks barristas die of AIDS each year that deaths that might occur in a Starbucks due to a gun being carried. Yet, guns are not permitted, but having a gay barrista with AIDS work there is?
Re: Starbucks Joins other Chains - Bans All Guns in Stores
Posted by:
pNCjV
()
Date: September 19, 2013 06:19AM
Yes, the big bad scary guns. People should be frightened every time they see one because you never know when it will just go off and kill somebody for no apparent reason. It is so jarring to see someone carrying a weapon. They must be a criminal. Only criminals carry guns. Therefore no one but criminals need guns.
Of course, you could walk outside and the crazy who thinks you "cut line" could run you over with their perfectly safe automobile (it even has airbags to protect the driver).
Of course, you could walk outside and the crazy who thinks you "cut line" could run you over with their perfectly safe automobile (it even has airbags to protect the driver).
Re: Starbucks Joins other Chains - Bans All Guns in Stores
Posted by:
Vexxxed
()
Date: September 19, 2013 07:02AM
pNCjV Wrote:
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> Yes, the big bad scary guns. People should be
> frightened every time they see one because you
> never know when it will just go off and kill
> somebody for no apparent reason. It is so jarring
> to see someone carrying a weapon. They must be a
> criminal. Only criminals carry guns. Therefore
> no one but criminals need guns.
>
> Of course, you could walk outside and the crazy
> who thinks you "cut line" could run you over with
> their perfectly safe automobile (it even has
> airbags to protect the driver).
Attachments:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Yes, the big bad scary guns. People should be
> frightened every time they see one because you
> never know when it will just go off and kill
> somebody for no apparent reason. It is so jarring
> to see someone carrying a weapon. They must be a
> criminal. Only criminals carry guns. Therefore
> no one but criminals need guns.
>
> Of course, you could walk outside and the crazy
> who thinks you "cut line" could run you over with
> their perfectly safe automobile (it even has
> airbags to protect the driver).
Attachments:
Re: Starbucks Joins other Chains - Bans All Guns in Stores
Posted by:
RedRubby
()
Date: September 19, 2013 08:38AM
@ Liberal Logic 28
I was just pointing out that NRA solution to stop school shooting from happen or in progress is to response with gun is a bad idea. It true that he was shot dead but not before he killed so many people already so their idea is not workable solution and they are just taking easy way out instead of coming up with a good answer to a hard question.
Do you think that security around school will have training like SWAT team or Military? Background check went wrong in this incident and if I were to have my way all people with mental problem and convicted regardless of what crime will be ban from having weapon.
I was just pointing out that NRA solution to stop school shooting from happen or in progress is to response with gun is a bad idea. It true that he was shot dead but not before he killed so many people already so their idea is not workable solution and they are just taking easy way out instead of coming up with a good answer to a hard question.
Do you think that security around school will have training like SWAT team or Military? Background check went wrong in this incident and if I were to have my way all people with mental problem and convicted regardless of what crime will be ban from having weapon.
Re: Starbucks Joins other Chains - Bans All Guns in Stores
Posted by:
WTF?
()
Date: September 19, 2013 09:29AM
From Da Hood -- The Original Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> OK, let's put things into perspective. More gay
> Starbucks barristas die of AIDS each year that
> deaths that might occur in a Starbucks due to a
> gun being carried. Yet, guns are not permitted,
> but having a gay barrista with AIDS work there is?
Sadly, this is the level of idiocy we're dealing with here. You're too fucking STUPID to own a gun.
-------------------------------------------------------
> OK, let's put things into perspective. More gay
> Starbucks barristas die of AIDS each year that
> deaths that might occur in a Starbucks due to a
> gun being carried. Yet, guns are not permitted,
> but having a gay barrista with AIDS work there is?
Sadly, this is the level of idiocy we're dealing with here. You're too fucking STUPID to own a gun.
Re: Starbucks Joins other Chains - Bans All Guns in Stores
Posted by:
Correct Sir!
()
Date: September 19, 2013 09:38AM
NRA quotes are just stupid in general so let's forget about them.
The NRA just repeats the same mantra to its sheepalle herd, aka "the solution to anything is more guns."
The NRA just repeats the same mantra to its sheepalle herd, aka "the solution to anything is more guns."
Re: Starbucks Joins other Chains - Bans All Guns in Stores
Posted by:
bang bang club
()
Date: September 19, 2013 10:09AM
RedRubby Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> @ Liberal Logic 28
> I was just pointing out that NRA solution to stop
> school shooting from happen or in progress is to
> response with gun is a bad idea. It true that he
> was shot dead but not before he killed so many
> people already so their idea is not workable
> solution and they are just taking easy way out
> instead of coming up with a good answer to a hard
> question.
>
> Do you think that security around school will have
> training like SWAT team or Military? Background
> check went wrong in this incident and if I were to
> have my way all people with mental problem and
> convicted regardless of what crime will be ban
> from having weapon.
Lets make this issue simple.
Arm the kids. Children have the right to defend themselves.
-------------------------------------------------------
> @ Liberal Logic 28
> I was just pointing out that NRA solution to stop
> school shooting from happen or in progress is to
> response with gun is a bad idea. It true that he
> was shot dead but not before he killed so many
> people already so their idea is not workable
> solution and they are just taking easy way out
> instead of coming up with a good answer to a hard
> question.
>
> Do you think that security around school will have
> training like SWAT team or Military? Background
> check went wrong in this incident and if I were to
> have my way all people with mental problem and
> convicted regardless of what crime will be ban
> from having weapon.
Lets make this issue simple.
Arm the kids. Children have the right to defend themselves.
Re: Starbucks Joins other Chains - Bans All Guns in Stores
Posted by:
And pigs fly
()
Date: September 19, 2013 10:22AM
bang bang club Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> RedRubby Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > @ Liberal Logic 28
> > I was just pointing out that NRA solution to
> stop
> > school shooting from happen or in progress is
> to
> > response with gun is a bad idea. It true that
> he
> > was shot dead but not before he killed so many
> > people already so their idea is not workable
> > solution and they are just taking easy way out
> > instead of coming up with a good answer to a
> hard
> > question.
> >
> > Do you think that security around school will
> have
> > training like SWAT team or Military? Background
> > check went wrong in this incident and if I were
> to
> > have my way all people with mental problem and
> > convicted regardless of what crime will be ban
> > from having weapon.
>
> Lets make this issue simple.
> Arm the kids. Children have the right to defend
> themselves.
Children do not have the right to defend themselves. If a child gets into a fight trying to defend themselves, they are expelled as well as the person who started the fight. The children must conform to the system. This is part of the wussification of America. It makes it easier to take guns, rights and other property away from the huddled masses.
-------------------------------------------------------
> RedRubby Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > @ Liberal Logic 28
> > I was just pointing out that NRA solution to
> stop
> > school shooting from happen or in progress is
> to
> > response with gun is a bad idea. It true that
> he
> > was shot dead but not before he killed so many
> > people already so their idea is not workable
> > solution and they are just taking easy way out
> > instead of coming up with a good answer to a
> hard
> > question.
> >
> > Do you think that security around school will
> have
> > training like SWAT team or Military? Background
> > check went wrong in this incident and if I were
> to
> > have my way all people with mental problem and
> > convicted regardless of what crime will be ban
> > from having weapon.
>
> Lets make this issue simple.
> Arm the kids. Children have the right to defend
> themselves.
Children do not have the right to defend themselves. If a child gets into a fight trying to defend themselves, they are expelled as well as the person who started the fight. The children must conform to the system. This is part of the wussification of America. It makes it easier to take guns, rights and other property away from the huddled masses.
Re: Starbucks Joins other Chains - Bans All Guns in Stores
Posted by:
Atom
()
Date: September 19, 2013 01:28PM
There was that guy in hooters last year that accidentally shot his girlfriend.
Re: Starbucks Joins other Chains - Bans All Guns in Stores
Posted by:
Liberal Logic 28
()
Date: September 19, 2013 02:49PM
RedRubby Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> @ Liberal Logic 28
> I was just pointing out that NRA solution to stop
> school shooting from happen or in progress is to
> response with gun is a bad idea. It true that he
> was shot dead but not before he killed so many
> people already so their idea is not workable
> solution and they are just taking easy way out
> instead of coming up with a good answer to a hard
> question.
So your solution is to have him just continue on with the rampage then with no one to challenge him then?
The security at the Naval Yard obviously had some issues, allowing that to be turned over to private companies instead of having the MPs or some Marines doing it was not a wise choice.
That said having it there is better than not having it there. It at least slowed him down, but no one has ever said anything is full proof. SEALs are the most highly training fighting force in the world and they get killed. The only thing you can do is try and have the best chance of stopping it when it happens. Having no one with the ability to stop them doesnt do that.
> Do you think that security around school will have
> training like SWAT team or Military? Background
> check went wrong in this incident and if I were to
> have my way all people with mental problem and
> convicted regardless of what crime will be ban
> from having weapon.
No I dont, but do you think even the police have training like a SWAT team or the Military because they dont. School shootings are extremely rare to begin with but its something that gets everyone all worked up. Having gun lockers around the school or in some classrooms would at least give a fighting chance during the 20-30 minutes shooters roam free before the police do anything. There was a shooting in a GA school that was stopped when an assistant principle went to his car and got his gun and stopped the shooter before he could leave and go to another school.
You very easily could send some teachers that wanted to the same training police have for weapons over the summer, its only a week or two. There are a good amount of former Military or LEOs anyway that get into teaching later on.
The background check didnt fail in this case, there wasnt something missed that was there. Nothing had been ruled that prevented him from having a gun. If anything this just shows what BS has been being fed over the last year about shotguns. A gun is a gun is a gun, either you can have them or you cant.
The amount of things now that can result in you being convicted of a crime is asinine. Banning anyone from having one whose ever been in front of a court would be insane. It doesnt even stop anything from happening. He could have just started driving through crowds on the mall instead like weve seen. People that are set on doing horrible things like that dont just say well shucks there goes that idea.
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> @ Liberal Logic 28
> I was just pointing out that NRA solution to stop
> school shooting from happen or in progress is to
> response with gun is a bad idea. It true that he
> was shot dead but not before he killed so many
> people already so their idea is not workable
> solution and they are just taking easy way out
> instead of coming up with a good answer to a hard
> question.
So your solution is to have him just continue on with the rampage then with no one to challenge him then?
The security at the Naval Yard obviously had some issues, allowing that to be turned over to private companies instead of having the MPs or some Marines doing it was not a wise choice.
That said having it there is better than not having it there. It at least slowed him down, but no one has ever said anything is full proof. SEALs are the most highly training fighting force in the world and they get killed. The only thing you can do is try and have the best chance of stopping it when it happens. Having no one with the ability to stop them doesnt do that.
> Do you think that security around school will have
> training like SWAT team or Military? Background
> check went wrong in this incident and if I were to
> have my way all people with mental problem and
> convicted regardless of what crime will be ban
> from having weapon.
No I dont, but do you think even the police have training like a SWAT team or the Military because they dont. School shootings are extremely rare to begin with but its something that gets everyone all worked up. Having gun lockers around the school or in some classrooms would at least give a fighting chance during the 20-30 minutes shooters roam free before the police do anything. There was a shooting in a GA school that was stopped when an assistant principle went to his car and got his gun and stopped the shooter before he could leave and go to another school.
You very easily could send some teachers that wanted to the same training police have for weapons over the summer, its only a week or two. There are a good amount of former Military or LEOs anyway that get into teaching later on.
The background check didnt fail in this case, there wasnt something missed that was there. Nothing had been ruled that prevented him from having a gun. If anything this just shows what BS has been being fed over the last year about shotguns. A gun is a gun is a gun, either you can have them or you cant.
The amount of things now that can result in you being convicted of a crime is asinine. Banning anyone from having one whose ever been in front of a court would be insane. It doesnt even stop anything from happening. He could have just started driving through crowds on the mall instead like weve seen. People that are set on doing horrible things like that dont just say well shucks there goes that idea.