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Gun-Rights Mom Killed in Apparent Murder-Suicide
Posted by: Reap What You Sow ()
Date: September 07, 2013 11:43PM

LEBANON, Pa – A suburban mother who became a voice of the gun-rights movement when she openly carried a loaded pistol to her daughter's soccer game was fatally shot Wednesday along with her parole-officer husband in an apparent murder-suicide at their home in Pennsylvania Dutch country, authorities said.

Police released scant details about the deaths of Meleanie Hain, 31, and Scott Hain, 33, but said more information would be released Friday after their autopsies.

"I'm devastated. I lost my daughter. I lost my best friend. The children lost their parents," Jenny Stanley, Meleanie Hain's mother, told WGAL-TV. Stanley added that the three children, ages 2, 6 and 10, are "hanging in there."

The children were at a neighbor's house by the time police arrived to answer 911 calls from neighbors, said Lebanon City Police Chief Daniel Wright.

"What they did or did not see as part of this is not something we're going to release," Wright said.

Neighbors said the children ran outside and said their father had shot their mother, but Wright declined to disclose what investigators have concluded about how the deaths occurred.

He said authorities recovered more than one weapon from the home and acknowledged reports that the couple might have been having marital difficulties.

"I'm not going to confirm that now, but I'm not going to dispute it either," Wright said.

Meleanie Hain had run a day care at her home, and children's toys remain scattered in the front yard Thursday. A car parked in the driveway bore a badge-shaped sticker that read "NRA law enforcement."

Hain made headlines in 2008 when she attended a soccer game of her daughter's, then 5, at a park with a Glock holstered on her hip in plain view. That upset other parents.

The sheriff revoked her license to carry and conceal a gun nine days later, citing a state law that prohibits certain gun permits from being given to people whose character and reputation make them a danger to public safety.

A county judge overturned that decision but questioned her judgment and said she had "scared the devil" out of people.

Lebanon County District Attorney Dave Arnold, who was at the scene Wednesday night, declined to comment on the facts of the case.

"I'm a pretty big advocate for the right to possess and own firearms, so I don't look at this as something where there's an indication that stricter gun regulations are necessary," Arnold said. "Obviously responsible gun ownership is the key to gun ownership."

The Hains' federal lawsuit against Sheriff Michael DeLeo and the county, alleging that he violated her constitutional rights and prosecuted her maliciously, was pending in federal court at the time of her death. Her attorney, Matthew Weisberg, said he hopes to continue the litigation.

Weisberg said Meleanie told him about six months ago she and Scott had separated, and three months ago she wanted to pursue a protective order against him. She wanted to have Scott's name removed from the lawsuit, but that never happened, Weisberg said.

"Whether they'd reconciled in the last couple of months, I don't know," Weisberg said.

She claimed the sheriff's actions destroyed her baby-sitting service, resulted in her children being harassed and made her feel ostracized by her neighbors in Lebanon, which has about 25,000 residents. No one answered the phone at the Sheriff's Department Thursday afternoon.

Scott Hain had worked in Reading as a parole officer for the state Board of Probation and Parole since August 2008. He had worked as a guard at the Camp Hill state prison, the state Corrections Department said.

Neighbors said the Hains were not outgoing, and several said Meleanie Hain wore her holstered gun regularly, walking the dog or going to the grocery store.

Aileen Fortna, 51, who lives two doors away, told The Associated Press that her husband noticed the two older Hain children running past their house and crying. She watched as authorities removed the two bodies overnight.

Fortna said the children told another neighbor that "daddy shot mommy." A police chaplain answered the door at that neighbor's home Thursday and declined to comment.

"I'm shocked at the whole thing," Fortna said. "I'm surprised she didn't defend herself."

Mike Witmer, a 32-year-old maintenance technician who lives across the street and about 50 yards from the Hains, said he was unloading groceries when he heard a commotion at their house. Shortly afterward, police swarmed through the neighborhood and told him to go inside.

"I'm pretty sure what we heard was the bang of the gun. It was a weird sound," he said, expressing concern for the children. "I hope they're OK and they get through the hard times they're in for the rest of their lives."


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/story/2009/10/08/gun-rights-mom-killed-in-apparent-murder-suicide/#ixzz2eGkdabT3

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Re: Gun-Rights Mom Killed in Apparent Murder-Suicide
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: September 07, 2013 11:46PM

So the husband shot her with his police issued pistol?

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Re: Gun-Rights Mom Killed in Apparent Murder-Suicide
Posted by: trogdor! ()
Date: September 08, 2013 12:44AM

eesh Wrote:
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> So the husband shot her with his police issued
> pistol?


This happened in 2009. Too bad she didn't get to her's first.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 09/08/2013 12:46AM by trogdor!.

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Re: Gun-Rights Mom Killed in Apparent Murder-Suicide
Posted by: Liberal Logic 27 ()
Date: September 08, 2013 12:48AM

Reap What You Sow Wrote:
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Im not sure whats worse using that screen name for that story or the fact you missed that was 4 years ago.

Either way by liberals gun control logic its time to disarm the police before they commit anymore murder suicides

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Re: Gun-Rights Mom Killed in Apparent Murder-Suicide
Posted by: Atom ()
Date: September 08, 2013 07:34AM

Feel good story of 2009. But daddy should have whipped his white trash spawn from the planet too.

I'm sure they are our burden now.

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Re: Gun-Rights Mom Killed in Apparent Murder-Suicide
Posted by: Reap What You Sow ()
Date: September 08, 2013 08:18PM

Liberal Logic 27 Wrote:
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> Im not sure whats worse using that screen name for
> that story or the fact you missed that was 4 years
> ago.

What difference does it make when the murder-suicide occurred?

A feel-good story like 'Gun-toting biotch gunned down her gun nutty husband' is timeless.

You reap what you sow.

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Re: Gun-Rights Mom Killed in Apparent Murder-Suicide
Posted by: Liberal Logic 27 ()
Date: September 08, 2013 09:25PM

Reap What You Sow Wrote:
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> What difference does it make when the
> murder-suicide occurred?
>
> A feel-good story like 'Gun-toting biotch gunned
> down her gun nutty husband' is timeless.
>
> You reap what you sow.


First off Hillary the fact you had to go back to 2009 shows what a retard you are. Its 2013 get with the times.

Second you left out the part where her husband was a cop.

So by your logic its time to disarm the police. If it could save one life right?

Third its clear youre a miserable excuse for a human being since you take pleasure in that story.

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Re: Gun-Rights Mom Killed in Apparent Murder-Suicide
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: September 08, 2013 09:33PM

Do you people even read articles before you post them is it just......."ooo oooo a gun nut story....gotta post it"

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Re: Gun-Rights Mom Killed in Apparent Murder-Suicide
Posted by: Reap What You Sow ()
Date: September 09, 2013 07:51AM

Liberal Logic 27 Wrote:
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> First off Hillary the fact you had to go back to
> 2009 shows what a retard you are. Its 2013 get
> with the times.

A feel-good story like 'Gun-toting biotch gunned down her gun nutty husband' is timeless.

> Second you left out the part where her husband was
> a cop.

"Scott Hain had worked in Reading as a parole officer for the state Board of Probation and Parole since August 2008. He had worked as a guard at the Camp Hill state prison, the state Corrections Department said. Scott Hain was not a cop, but he was gun nutty.

> So by your logic its time to disarm the police.
> If it could save one life right?

By my logic, this stupid cunt was far less safe with firearms in her home than she would have been without them. Only a moron would have a gun in their home, so no doubt you have several in yours.

Third its clear youre a miserable excuse for a human being since you take pleasure in that story.

You reap what you sow.

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Re: Gun-Rights Mom Killed in Apparent Murder-Suicide
Posted by: Liberal Logic 27 ()
Date: September 09, 2013 12:59PM

All that really needs to be said is youre a miserable excuse of a human being if you consider those feel good stories.

By your logic, hahaha what a great oxymoron that was.

Since were posting stories about the past why dont you post some about how the Soviets confiscated weapons when they came to power, or the Nazis, or how the British tried.

Run along now D lunch is almost over, dont want to be late getting back to class

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Re: Gun-Rights Mom Killed in Apparent Murder-Suicide
Posted by: Reap What You Sow ()
Date: September 09, 2013 01:26PM

Liberal Logic 27 Wrote:
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> All that really needs to be said is youre a
> miserable excuse of a human being if you consider
> those feel good stories.

You reap what you sow.

> Since were posting stories about the past why dont
> you post some about how the Soviets confiscated
> weapons when they came to power, or the Nazis, or
> how the British tried.

Which would be relevant here...how?

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Re: Gun-Rights Mom Killed in Apparent Murder-Suicide
Posted by: XcJDu ()
Date: September 09, 2013 01:33PM

Liberal Logic 27 Wrote:
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> Since were posting stories about the past why dont
> you post some about how the Soviets confiscated
> weapons when they came to power, or the Nazis, or
> how the British tried.

the Nazis advocated FOR gun ownership and NEVER confiscated weapons

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Re: Gun-Rights Mom Killed in Apparent Murder-Suicide
Posted by: Liberal Logic 27 ()
Date: September 09, 2013 01:38PM

XcJDu Wrote:
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> the Nazis advocated FOR gun ownership and NEVER
> confiscated weapons

False. They confiscated weapons from the Jews who were their target of persecution.

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Re: Gun-Rights Mom Killed in Apparent Murder-Suicide
Posted by: cdh ()
Date: September 09, 2013 01:50PM

Liberal Logic 27 Wrote:
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> XcJDu Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
>
> > the Nazis advocated FOR gun ownership and
> NEVER
> > confiscated weapons
>
> False. They confiscated weapons from the Jews who
> were their target of persecution.

Quite true. These guys knoow the score.

Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership:

http://jpfo.org/filegen-a-m/about.htm

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Re: Gun-Rights Mom Killed in Apparent Murder-Suicide
Posted by: Weirmart ()
Date: September 09, 2013 01:59PM

XcJDu Wrote:
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> Liberal Logic 27 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > Since were posting stories about the past why
> dont
> > you post some about how the Soviets confiscated
> > weapons when they came to power, or the Nazis,
> or
> > how the British tried.
>
> the Nazis advocated FOR gun ownership and NEVER
> confiscated weapons


This is a misnomer. The Nazis allow gun ownership, but only for their fellow Nazis. If you weren't a member in good standing of the party or had a party member attest for you, you couldn't get the permit to own a gun. It would be like a republican/democrat president saying only someone from their party can own guns. So yes, the Nazis relaxed the gun prohibitions of the Weirmar Republic (almost zero legal gun ownership) but only for their master race adherents.

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Re: Gun-Rights Mom Killed in Apparent Murder-Suicide
Posted by: LiverLips ()
Date: September 09, 2013 02:29PM

Another gun nut bites the dust. Live by the gun, die by the gun.

I can count four people I knew who were AVID gun supporters and also killed by their own guns.

One killed in a hunting accident. Another while "cleaing" his gun. The last two blew their own heads off in apparent suicides.

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