Even the Rightards agree..

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives2/2008/09/021444.php

Charles Krauthammer continues to find John McCain’s choice of Sarah Palin “deeply problematic.” He writes:

The gamble is enormous. In a stroke, McCain gratuitously forfeited his most powerful argument against Obama. And this was even before Palin's inevitable liabilities began to pile up -- inevitable because any previously unvetted neophyte has "issues." The kid. The state trooper investigation. And worst, the paucity of any Palin record or expressed conviction on the major issues of our time.

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Yes, and they had already figured out that Hillary was unable to beat Obama by using her "experience argument". Note that Obama selected Biden to bolster his "lack of experience" - McCain chose Palin to bolster the Republican base (which has worked perfectly).

I usually like posting links directly to the article rather than someone paraphrasing what they wrote:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/09/can_palin_deliver_nine_weeks_o.html

As I have said in other threads. Rabid Obama supporters are the only ones that care about anything revealed so far. The folks Palin has energized are quite happy with the pick and continue to be that way.

The rest of the article after your quote above:

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McCain has one hope. It is suggested by the strength of Palin's performance Wednesday night. In a year of compounding ironies, the McCain candidacy could be saved, and the Palin choice vindicated, by one thing: Palin does an Obama.

Obama showed that star power can trump the gravest of biographical liabilities. The sheer elegance, intelligence and power of his public presence have muted the uneasy feeling about his unreadiness. Palin does not reach Obama's mesmeric level. Her appeal is far more earthy, workmanlike and direct. Yet she managed to banish a week's worth of unfriendly media scrutiny and self-inflicted personal liabilities with a single triumphant speech.

Now, Obama had 19 months to make his magic obscure his thinness. Palin has nine weeks. Nevertheless, if she too can neutralize unreadiness with star power, then the demographic advantages she brings McCain -- appeal to the base and to Reagan Democrats -- coupled with her contribution to the reform theme, might just pay off. The question is: Can she do the magic -- unteleprompted extemporaneous magic, from now on -- for the next nine weeks?

Still, it is not about Palin, but Obama. Maybe he needs to pick up his game a bit and make his case - although in the appearances he has made lately, he seems a bit lost a wandering around and off topic. Probably why he is now using a teleprompter...

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> Still, it is not about Palin, but Obama. Maybe he
> needs to pick up his game a bit and make his case

It's about Palin since it reflects his judgement (or lack thereof).

> - although in the appearances he has made lately,
> he seems a bit lost a wandering around and off
> topic. Probably why he is now using a
> teleprompter...

Given the McCain Gaff machine, he may want the teleprompter himself.. How's that economy again? Strong?

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If you grow up in Hawaii, raised by your grandparents, you're 'exotic, different.' Grow up in Alaska eating mooseburgers, a quintessential an American story.

If your name is Barack you're a radical, unpatriotic Muslim. Name your kids Willow, Trig and Track, you're a maverick.

Graduate from Harvard law School and you are unstable. Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you're well grounded.

If you spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer, become the first black President of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters, spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law professor, spend 8 years as a State Senator representing a district with over 750,000 people, become chairman of the state Senate's Health and Human Services committee, spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of 13 million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran's Affairs committees, you don't have any real leadership experience.

If your total resume is: local weather girl, 4 years on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less than 7,000 people, 20 months as the governor of a state with only 650,000 people, then you're qualified to become the country's second highest ranking executive.

If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while raising 2 beautiful daughters, all within Protestant churches, you're not a real Christian.

If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, and left your disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month, you're a Christian. If you teach responsible, age appropriate sex education, including the proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.

If, while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence only, with no other option in sex education in your state's school system while your unwed teen daughter ends up pregnant, you're very responsible.

If your wife is a Harvard graduate lawyer who gave up a position in a prestigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner city community, then gave that up to raise a family, your family's values don't represent America's.

If you're husband is nicknamed 'First Dude', with at least one DWI conviction and no college education, who didn't register to vote until age 25 and once was a member of a group that advocated the secession of Alaska from the USA, your family is extremely admirable. OK, much clearer now.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/16/conservatives-turn-on-mcc_n_126749.html

Ross Douthat agrees at the Atlantic:

Now that we've seen the entirety of the Palin-Gibson tete-a-tete, I concur with Rich Lowry and Rod Dreher. The most that can be said in her defense is that she kept her cool and avoided any brutal gaffes; other than that, she seemed about an inch deep on every issue outside her comfort zone. Yes, the questions were tougher than the ones that a Tim Kaine or Tim Pawlenty probably would have been handed, but they were all questions that a vice-presidential nominee needs to be able to answer. And there's no way to look at her performance as anything save supporting evidence for the non-hysterical critique of her candidacy - that it's just too much, too soon - and a splash of cold water for those of us with high hopes for her future on the national stage.

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What, can't post an original thought other than Dem talking points or cute emails you picked up from the net?

http://www.discourse.net/archives/2008/09/new_email_making_the_rounds.html

I see it has made it onto a number of different blogs too. You making the rounds? Look, he's viral.

And yet, almost all of those points compare Obama to Palin. Who is running for President again?

And again, all this talking down of Alaska. You guys would think it is West Virginia or something. Those people know more about living than most of us here posting on this blog, so yeah, I think it uniquely qualifies them to give a "real person" perspective to ANY political conversation. Much like Clinton when he came from Arkansas and ran one of the most backward States in this country. And for all these sad stories of how they gave up careers at prestigious law firms to help the inner city communities, please, go to those communities now and tell me how much better they are now than before Obama got to them. How about that Chicago school system - $50M later while sitting on a board with William Ayers to run a program to improve the school system, and they still said the school system was the worst in the country when they were done. I guess he has a lot of experience in maintaining the status quo - not sure how that qualifies you to be an agent of change.

Read it and weep:
http://eric.ed.gov/ERICDocs/data/ericdocs2sql/content_storage_01/0000019b/80/1b/8c/e1.pdf

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Annenberg_Challenge

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a Board of Directors initially recruited by the Collaborative, which was chaired from 1995 to 2000 by Barack Obama[4], at the time a practicing attorney.
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Everyone keeps saying he has no executive experience - funny how this never gets mentioned anywhere in MSM.

My bad, it was $110M total with matching funds. Amazing.

Considering the fact that McCain nows says he "wasn't involved in Washington over the past 8 years," Really??????

No surprise that he randomly selected a woman because he "needs a woman as VP."

It's a wonder republicans can think for themselves.

Well, interesting - we keep hearing Obama try to paint the administration (and by extension McCain) as responsible for the mess with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Lets look back shall we:

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E06E3D6123BF932A2575AC0A9659C8B63&sec=&spon=&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink

New Agency Proposed to Oversee Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae

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Published: September 11, 2003

The Bush administration today recommended the most significant regulatory overhaul in the housing finance industry since the savings and loan crisis a decade ago.

Under the plan, disclosed at a Congressional hearing today, a new agency would be created within the Treasury Department to assume supervision of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the government-sponsored companies that are the two largest players in the mortgage lending industry.

The new agency would have the authority, which now rests with Congress, to set one of the two capital-reserve requirements for the companies. It would exercise authority over any new lines of business. And it would determine whether the two are adequately managing the risks of their ballooning portfolios.

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After the hearing, Representative Michael G. Oxley, chairman of the Financial Services Committee, and Senator Richard Shelby, chairman of the Senate Banking Committee, announced their intention to draft legislation based on the administration's proposal. Industry executives said Congress could complete action on legislation before leaving for recess in the fall.

''The current regulator does not have the tools, or the mandate, to adequately regulate these enterprises,'' Mr. Oxley said at the hearing. ''We have seen in recent months that mismanagement and questionable accounting practices went largely unnoticed by the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight,'' the independent agency that now regulates the companies.

''These irregularities, which have been going on for several years, should have been detected earlier by the regulator,'' he added

And the response from Democrats (in the same article):

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''These two entities -- Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- are not facing any kind of financial crisis,'' said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. ''The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.''

Representative Melvin L. Watt, Democrat of North Carolina, agreed.

''I don't see much other than a shell game going on here, moving something from one agency to another and in the process weakening the bargaining power of poorer families and their ability to get affordable housing,'' Mr. Watt said.

In 2005 McCain proposed the following:

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Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005

Bill Summary

1/26/2005--Introduced. Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005 - Amends the Federal Housing Enterprises Financial Safety and Soundness Act of 1992 to establish: (1) in lieu of the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight of the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD), an independent Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Agency which shall have authority over the Federal Home Loan Bank Finance Corporation, the Federal Home Loan Banks, the Federal National Mortgage Association (Fannie Mae), and the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation (Freddie Mac); and (2) the Federal Housing Enterprise Board. Sets forth operating, administrative, and regulatory provisions of the Agency, including provisions respecting: (1) assessment authority; (2) authority to limit nonmission-related assets; (3) minimum and critical capital levels; (4) risk-based capital test; (5) capital classifications and undercapitalized enterprises; (6) enforcement actions and penalties; (7) golden parachutes; and (8) reporting. Amends the Federal Home Loan Bank Act to establish the Federal Home Loan Bank Finance Corporation. Transfers the functions of the Office of Finance of the Federal Home Loan Banks to such Corporation. Excludes the Federal Home Loan Banks from certain securities reporting requirements. Abolishes the Federal Housing Finance Board.

The idea being that the oversight needed to be placed into a regulatory agency (instead of an office in HUD) to make sure their business practices were not being abused and monitored on a regular basis.

Obama?



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Registered Voter Wrote:
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> Well, interesting - we keep hearing Obama try to
> paint the administration (and by extension McCain)
> as responsible for the mess with Fannie Mae and
> Freddie Mac. Lets look back shall we:

So Bush was not President the last 8 years? McCain didn't vote with Bush?

That's a load of horse dung and you know it.

Hmm, there's that 8 years thing again. How many times did Obama vote with Bush? WHen he voted that is....

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> Hmm, there's that 8 years thing again. How many
> times did Obama vote with Bush? WHen he voted that
> is....


Want to bet it was less the 90% like McSame?

RV..are you a\or are you not on the republikan party payroll? I picture you sitting in the Palin/McSame office's in a little cubicle monitoring this site and pumping republikan propaganda at every opportunity.

What a stupid question to ask. I see this on game forums all the time too - someone comes on to argue a point (with facts no less) and suddenly they are on the game developers payroll.

No, I am not with any party office, I am not a consultant to the parties, nor do I work for a media organization or any other politically affiliated group. I am a person who gives a shit, Period.

Are you? Seems like all you do is post liberal talking points or the LATEST tidbits that are hot off the press. Actually I don't care if you are or not - I thought folks here just agreed to disagree.

She was a nice fuck but she cant do a mans job.