I heard this on WMAL Sunday and wonder if any have heard of this story. There is some question where he was born and if he has a birth certificate. If not US born he cannot be president. If not him then Will Clinton run after all (if the story is true).

Obama was born in Hawaii, a US state. Any claims that he is not a US citizen are absurd.

Interestingly enough, McCain was born in what is now the country of Panama.


(i'm not saying McCain isn't a proper citizen, it's just interesting that neither of the candidates were born in the contiguous lower 48).

You believe what you heard on WMAL? They are all Republican boosters and liars.

I looked it up and there are a lot of websites on this story. The guy on WMAL said a lawsuit would be filed allowing a alternate candidate to file if the suit is succesful. And of corse I don't know myself.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

Here's the latest info I can find. Looks to me like ObammaRama
and the DNC better cough up the info quick or Hillary will be
the candidate.

http://www.obamacrimes.com/index.php/component/content/article/1-main/11-service-of-legal-documents-to-dnc-and-senator-obama-confirmed

obamacrimes.com LOL!

Now there's a good site to check facts on.

Maybe you can get more facts about Obama by googling and finding sites like ihateobama.com or fakestuffaboutobama.com

Or better yet, just get all your facts about Obama directly from John McCains advisors.

This Obama/citizenship lawsuit was filed by the same nitwit lawyer that tried to sue Bush a few years ago, accusing the Bush administration of being behind the 9/11 attacks. He's a big Hillary Clinton supporter who obviously has a couple of screws loose and has no qualms about abusing our legal system with spurious lawsuits.

Jester Wrote:
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> obamacrimes.com LOL!
>
> Now there's a good site to check facts on.
>
> Maybe you can get more facts about Obama by
> googling and finding sites like ihateobama.com or
> fakestuffaboutobama.com
>
> Or better yet, just get all your facts about Obama
> directly from John McCains advisors.

If you click the court document on this website you will find Mr. Berg's
papers. This is very serious and you can make light of it if you wish.
However, the case has been accepted by the court and NObama must
respond. Heh..Heh...

Observer Wrote:
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> Jester Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > obamacrimes.com LOL!
> >
> > Now there's a good site to check facts on.
> >
> > Maybe you can get more facts about Obama by
> > googling and finding sites like ihateobama.com
> or
> > fakestuffaboutobama.com
> >
> > Or better yet, just get all your facts about
> Obama
> > directly from John McCains advisors.
>
> If you click the court document on this website
> you will find Mr. Berg's
> papers. This is very serious and you can make
> light of it if you wish.
> However, the case has been accepted by the court
> and NObama must
> respond. Heh..Heh...

Ever heard of a "summary judgement?"

Philip Berg is one of the biggest kooks in the circles of 9/11 deniars.

If there is any credibilty behind his allegations, Obama's opponents would have been all over this long ago.

Yeah, I don't believe there is really any issue on his citizenship status. Even if he had been given citizenship in Indonesia or anyplace else, he would have ALSO made it clear he wished to relinquish his US citizenship. Since it is doubtful he ever stated that intent, then by definition he would still be a US citizen.

Does this mean he will be deported?

Wabbit Wrote:
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> Does this mean he will be deported?


Deported to Hawaii, maybe. If I was being deported, Hawaii would be near the top of my list.

OK YOU LISTEN OBAMA IS A BAD PRESIDENT YOU WAT A NIGGER THEN OK YOUN GOT ONE.

OK PEOPLE WAKE UP OBAMA IS WORTHLESS NIGGERS AND MUSLIMS AND ILLEGAL MEXICANS AE TAKING OVER MCCAIN SHOULD HAVE ONE I KNOW HE IS AMERICAN HE FOUGHT FOR THIS COUNTRY WHEN OBAMA WAS BEFRIENDING HUSAIN OR WHATEVER AND IF YOU HAVM'T NOTICED OBAMA HIS MIDDLE NAME IS HUSAIN THAT IS SO MUSLIM AND HE LOOKS LIKE OSAMA BEN LODON SO WAKE UP YOU PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR HIM RUINED OUR COUNTRY AND ALL THE MEDIA DOES IS TALK ABOUT YOU DAMN DEMOCRATS AND PUT DOWN BUSH WELL BUSH WILL GO DOWN AS THE BEST PRESIDENT EVER SO DISAGREE WITH ME ALL YOU WANT BUT I KNOW THAT I AM RIGHT AND THAT ALL OF YOU ARE RONG AND YOU NEED TO WAKE UP THIS COUNTRY IS NOT AMERICAN ANYMORE IT'S AFRICA.

Obama was born in Kenya, and the Kenyan Ambassador to the USA admitted this. That hospital where he was born is a shrine over there. His mother was under 18 at the time of birth, and in the 1960s, that was not the age for citizenship transfer. He refuses to release his birth certificate. We only have his Birth Registration, which is not the same. The case was not heard by SCOTUS and NOBODY has his birth certificate. Obama doesn't address the issue or even attempt to clear it up. It will become legend.

Why can't people just accept that he's our president already? It's been a month for fuck's sake. Get OVER it. Let the man do his job.

The News Wrote:
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> Obama was born in Kenya, and the Kenyan Ambassador
> to the USA admitted this. That hospital where he
> was born is a shrine over there. His mother was
> under 18 at the time of birth, and in the 1960s,
> that was not the age for citizenship transfer. He
> refuses to release his birth certificate. We only
> have his Birth Registration, which is not the
> same. The case was not heard by SCOTUS and NOBODY
> has his birth certificate. Obama doesn't address
> the issue or even attempt to clear it up. It will
> become legend.

Sir, I dare not elevate you to the level of 'moron' for fear of insulting others here whom have at least achieved that status.

Good day.

The truth is out there. Do what you want with it.

The News Wrote:
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> Obama was born in Kenya, and the Kenyan Ambassador
> to the USA admitted this.

Growing up in DC and spending alot of time in the Diplomatic Press back in the 80s and 90s, I can tell you there is an old saying.

NEVER believe anything said by an African Ambassador.

Time to put away the tinfoil, people!
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Its BS. His grandmother and another relative already said he was born in Kenya.

Apparently HI will issue a cert. if you dont have one and you are a resident.

I would have cropped it but it just seems this way the conspiracy theorists can look for chimpanzee hair, or Stalin pubes or the much coveted Karl Marx fingerprints.

his father's middle name is HUSSEIN too!!

Interesting that the certificate issued by Hawaii was revised in 2001. Where is the original certificate? I think that is what people would like to see.

doubter Wrote:
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> Interesting that the certificate issued by Hawaii
> was revised in 2001. Where is the original
> certificate? I think that is what people would
> like to see.


The one I posted is a facsimile/re-issue of the original w/ the certificate number blacked out. The uncropped photo from three posts above is obviously the original. Look how the paper is weathered, aged, and creased. The discoloration as an effect of time and the folded creases lead me to believe it is the original and authentic. Also, note how the certificate number is visible in said photo. I think it's the real deal.



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doubter Wrote:
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> Interesting that the certificate issued by Hawaii
> was revised in 2001. Where is the original
> certificate? I think that is what people would
> like to see.

you really, truly are an idiot. I mean I thought leaving the image of the issued certificate un-cropped was mostly an annoying joke. But you, you just wont believe it until what? Fucking go to the registrars office in Honolulu and ask to see the original documents on record you Dick.



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dono Wrote:
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>> you really, truly are an idiot. I mean I thought
> leaving the image of the issued certificate
> un-cropped was mostly an annoying joke. But you,
> you just wont believe it until what? Fucking go
> to the registrars office in Honolulu and ask to
> see the original documents on record you Dick.

Fuck you, asshole.

inkahootz Wrote:
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> Time to put away the tinfoil, people!



nice bad job at a photo shop

dono Wrote:
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> doubter Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Interesting that the certificate issued by
> Hawaii
> > was revised in 2001. Where is the original
> > certificate? I think that is what people would
> > like to see.
>
> you really, truly are an idiot. I mean I thought
> leaving the image of the issued certificate
> un-cropped was mostly an annoying joke. But you,
> you just wont believe it until what? Fucking go
> to the registrars office in Honolulu and ask to
> see the original documents on record you Dick.

Better yet, why don't you bend over and let me drive cocksucker!!!

> > doubter Wrote:
>
> Better yet, why don't you bend over and let me
> drive cocksucker!!!

No thanks go elsewhere for your prurient desires maggot

Barry H Obama is not a US Citizen.
The information on Factcheck was a LIE!
Anyone can get a CERTIFICATE OF BIRTH FROM HAWAII! Look at the top where it is CERTIFICATE. A certificate and a Birth certificate are TOTALLY two separate documents.

THere are several lawsuits pending in courts right now because Barry H Obama will NOT release his VAULT BIRTH CERTIFICATE! Nor will he Release any of his College records because of the fear that someone might find out htat he got foreign funds.

Go to this website to read several articles and where Phillip Berg has outstanding suits against him. He is also paying thousands of tax payer dollars to fight these suits instead of producing his ORGINIAL BIRTH CERTFICATE>
His Grandmother said he was born in KENYA which makes him A NON US citizen and the Biggest HOAX ever commited in the USA.

Oh and NO I AM NOT A REPUBLICAN!

www.obamacrimes.us

www.theobamafile.com

Mary Wrote:
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> Barry H Obama is not a US Citizen.
> The information on Factcheck was a LIE!
> Anyone can get a CERTIFICATE OF BIRTH FROM HAWAII!
> Look at the top where it is CERTIFICATE. A
> certificate and a Birth certificate are TOTALLY
> two separate documents.
>
> THere are several lawsuits pending in courts right
> now because Barry H Obama will NOT release his
> VAULT BIRTH CERTIFICATE! Nor will he Release any
> of his College records because of the fear that
> someone might find out htat he got foreign funds.
>
> Go to this website to read several articles and
> where Phillip Berg has outstanding suits against
> him. He is also paying thousands of tax payer
> dollars to fight these suits instead of producing
> his ORGINIAL BIRTH CERTFICATE>
> His Grandmother said he was born in KENYA which
> makes him A NON US citizen and the Biggest HOAX
> ever commited in the USA.
>
> Oh and NO I AM NOT A REPUBLICAN!
>
> www.obamacrimes.us
>
> www.theobamafile.com


It was long rumored and never been proven false that Chester A. Arthur was actually born in Canada, so this isn't the biggest HOAX ever commited in the USA.

No, not anyone can get a certificate of birth in Hawaii.

Look, I went to the DMV with my DC record of birth printed from microfiche. The clerk looked at it and said "NO PHOTO COPIES allowed." I explained that it had a DC seal, and the woman looked at it again and said it was not a valid birth certificate becasue it didn't have the word "Certificate" on it. I protested, and she called her manager over so he could explain to me why it wasn't valid. The older man asked for the paper, and without really looking, brushed his fingers over the lower right hand corner where the raised seal was located. He then said "It's True and Valid."

Documentation changes over time, numnutz.

Philip Berg is an ass that brings up trivial lawsuits for publicity. Several judges have alrready banned him from filing lawsuits in their states because of his inability to understand the truth and his abuse of the law.

The Supreme Court has already deamed, through action and inaction, Obama's document valid and satisfactory. This argument is over.

Hi Mary, he's your president now (assuming you're a US citizen).

Tom

Mary Wrote:
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> Barry H Obama is not a US Citizen.
> The information on Factcheck was a LIE!
> Anyone can get a CERTIFICATE OF BIRTH FROM HAWAII!
> Look at the top where it is CERTIFICATE. A
> certificate and a Birth certificate are TOTALLY
> two separate documents.
>
> THere are several lawsuits pending in courts right
> now because Barry H Obama will NOT release his
> VAULT BIRTH CERTIFICATE! Nor will he Release any
> of his College records because of the fear that
> someone might find out htat he got foreign funds.
>
> Go to this website to read several articles and
> where Phillip Berg has outstanding suits against
> him. He is also paying thousands of tax payer
> dollars to fight these suits instead of producing
> his ORGINIAL BIRTH CERTFICATE>
> His Grandmother said he was born in KENYA which
> makes him A NON US citizen and the Biggest HOAX
> ever commited in the USA.
>
> Oh and NO I AM NOT A REPUBLICAN!
>
> www.obamacrimes.us
>
> www.theobamafile.com

Well, I for one like a good cover-up. For some reason I am just not that concerned here. It all passes the basic smell-test, has been approved by SCOTUS (trust me the Repugs would have a blimp with this shit on it if it had legs). I mean I totally trust the Republicans with one thing above all else - exposing any dirt on any Democrat. It is practically a scientific LAW that if a democrat is guilty a Republican will publicize it.

He is in. Take a breath. He might surprise you. He might suck to allmighty hell. There is literally nothing in my imagination that could conjure anything remotely as bad as Georgie W. and Cheney. Sorry no Soup for you.

a vintage bumpersticker.
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Alias Wrote:
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> Even if Obama was foreign born, his mother was a
> US citizen, so wouldn't that permit him to run for
> the presidency?


Yes. Her citizenship transfers to him.

This whole discussion is moot.

There are legal documents showing that he was born in the United States. I think anyone who wants to challenge Obama's being a U.S. Citizen must first prove they are a U.S. citizen themselves using the same standards they use for Obama.

Present me with you birth certificate. I don't believe it's real. Why? Because I don't. You have to prove to me that it is real. Anyone can make up a birth certificate like that. Prove to me it's real. The State Certifies it? I don't believe it is real. The State Department issued you a Passport based on it? I still don't believe it is real. You have a state-issued driver's license because of it? I still don't believe it is real.

It is not real because I choose not to believe it is real regardless of whatever evidence you present to the contrary.

Now, once these people can prove to me that they are, in fact, citizens, then they can question Obama's citizenship.

Dick Hertz Wrote:
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> a vintage bumpersticker.


Oh, but he is.

As much as I disliked George W. Bush, he was my President. Didn't mean I couldn't question what he was doing or criticize him. But I would never say he wasn't my President.

Same goes for Obama.

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> Obama was born in Hawaii, a US state. Any claims
> that he is not a US citizen are absurd.
>
> Interestingly enough, McCain was born in what is
> now the country of Panama.
>
>
> (i'm not saying McCain isn't a proper citizen,
> it's just interesting that neither of the
> candidates were born in the contiguous lower 48).


I voted for Obama... so im not biased... and ive heard the same news reports - there is no official record that he was born in the united states, and he has several African relatives (forget which country exactly), who claim he was born in Africa.

You Can Handle the Truth Wrote:
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> Alias Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Even if Obama was foreign born, his mother was
> a
> > US citizen, so wouldn't that permit him to run
> for
> > the presidency?
>
>
> Yes. Her citizenship transfers to him.
>
> This whole discussion is moot.
>
> There are legal documents showing that he was born
> in the United States. I think anyone who wants to
> challenge Obama's being a U.S. Citizen must first
> prove they are a U.S. citizen themselves using the
> same standards they use for Obama.
>
> Present me with you birth certificate. I don't
> believe it's real. Why? Because I don't. You have
> to prove to me that it is real. Anyone can make up
> a birth certificate like that. Prove to me it's
> real. The State Certifies it? I don't believe it
> is real. The State Department issued you a
> Passport based on it? I still don't believe it is
> real. You have a state-issued driver's license
> because of it? I still don't believe it is real.
>
> It is not real because I choose not to believe it
> is real regardless of whatever evidence you
> present to the contrary.
>
> Now, once these people can prove to me that they
> are, in fact, citizens, then they can question
> Obama's citizenship.


Game-Set-Match

Alias Wrote:
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> Even if Obama was foreign born, his mother was a
> US citizen, so wouldn't that permit him to run for
> the presidency?


Yes. Her citizenship transfers to him.

NO IT DOES NOT! READ the CONSTITUITON!!!!!!

Mary Wrote:
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> Alias Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Even if Obama was foreign born, his mother was a
>
> > US citizen, so wouldn't that permit him to run
> for
> > the presidency?
>
>
> Yes. Her citizenship transfers to him.
>
> NO IT DOES NOT! READ the CONSTITUITON!!!!!!


According to Supreme Court precedent it does.

If the mother is a U.S. citizen and has a baby overseas, the baby is considered a natural-born citizen and is thus eligible to run for President as long as the child returns to the U.S. and grows up here.

We don't expect people like Mary to understand concepts such as common law precedent.

Republicans really don't think that hard. In fact, they don't think at all.

It only transfers if she is 18 or older. In the 1960s, that law wasn't in effect, therefore, it wouldn't have transferred. Therefore, our commander and chief not only not president, but also probably a bastard, as his mom wasn't married to the Kenyan.

Bastard President.

WashingTone Locian Wrote:
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> Mary Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Alias Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Even if Obama was foreign born, his mother was
> a
> >
> > > US citizen, so wouldn't that permit him to
> run
> > for
> > > the presidency?
> >
> >
> > Yes. Her citizenship transfers to him.
> >
> > NO IT DOES NOT! READ the CONSTITUITON!!!!!!
>
>
> According to Supreme Court precedent it does.
>
> If the mother is a U.S. citizen and has a baby
> overseas, the baby is considered a natural-born
> citizen and is thus eligible to run for President
> as long as the child returns to the U.S. and grows
> up here.

Youconsider him a Bastard - so was Leonardo da Vinci. What is your point here? Why blame a baby for being born? I am sure you are a 'right-to-life' person - you telling me that all these babies you are trying to save from abortion are worthless to society or somehow second-hand citizens?

Or, are you merely a troll?

Because it looks like our wonderful new administration is granting the Chinese eminent domain as collateral for US debts. Yea you read that right. That means when we can no longer pay for all this massive spending the Chinese can call in the loans and take our land.

The thought that American citizens and businesses could lose their land as a means of payment is downright scary. I highly doubt ANY American citizen would have voted for Obama if they knew this was coming down the pike.


LiveLeak.com has the story and appears to have confirmation from both governments

Exactly SHE was NOT 18
So therefore IT does not TRANSFER!
SO there you go READ THE LAWS PEOPLE,
Don't read between the lines Read all the LINES..

Its SAD when PEOPLE do NOT even KNOW what is in OUR CONSTITUTION

Okay lots of anger let me sort through this

1. you are mad because he is a bastard (in your opinion).
2. you are mad because you think that Obama, in 5 weeks time has sold the US to the Chinese.
3. You are mad because people (and I include myself here) are not aware of everything in the Constitution.



Mostly I think you are and will be a very angry person until someone you 'trust' is back in the White House. I dont know if your trust is given by party, race, gender or what. I can tell you you are going to be unhappy for a while to come so it would behoove you to articulate what it is you want and not reduce yourself to a cartoonish complainer making irrelevant observations and inane assertions.

My parents on natural born citizens, I was born overseas (they were military) I was not born on a US military base. I have always been told that I could be vice president but not the pres. If I would have been born on base I could....is that true?

These people are nuts. They ignored or ridiculed anyone who criticized Bush and his policies, who had tangible and intelligible arguments about his actions and his disregard for the rule of law. Now the only thing they can do is gripe and complain about conspiracy theories, when they dismissed all the real criticisms of Bush as "conspiracy theories".

It's almost like reality changes for these people based on whether their party is in power or out of power.

Before Obama, anyone who questioned the government was with the terrorists. Now that Obama is president, anyone who isn't against the government is with the terrorists.

I guess it helps to have a really low IQ to be able to keep up with all that nonsense. Thank god the public school system is designed to produce people with poor reasoning skills.

honest abe Wrote:
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> My parents on natural born citizens, I was born
> overseas (they were military) I was not born on a
> US military base. I have always been told that I
> could be vice president but not the pres. If I
> would have been born on base I could....is that
> true?


Yes, John Mccain was born on a US military base in Panama and ran for President. BTW, you are a US citizen because both your parents are.

Mary Wrote:
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> Because it looks like our wonderful new
> administration is granting the Chinese eminent
> domain as collateral for US debts. Yea you read
> that right. That means when we can no longer pay
> for all this massive spending the Chinese can call
> in the loans and take our land.
>
> The thought that American citizens and businesses
> could lose their land as a means of payment is
> downright scary. I highly doubt ANY American
> citizen would have voted for Obama if they knew
> this was coming down the pike.
>
>
> LiveLeak.com has the story and appears to have
> confirmation from both governments

News Flash to Hairy Mary: The Bush administration has sold more t-bills to the Chinese government, among other countries, than the current administration. In fact, since I authored many of the provisions in the loan sale agreements, I can say that while some are callable, they have step-up features which ladder the amount of exposure at any given time. And no, you idiot. A default by our government on a handful of these bonds will not transfer sovereign property rights to the purchaser. EVER.

inkahootz Wrote:
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> honest abe Wrote:
I have always been told that
> I
> > could be vice president but not the pres. If I
> > would have been born on base I could....is that
> > true?
>


You cannot be VP without being able to serve as President, so whoever told you that is a fucking moron.

Judge assails cases doubting Obama's citizenship
By NEDRA PICKLER –

WASHINGTON (AP) — A federal judge on Thursday threw out a lawsuit questioning President Barack Obama's citizenship, lambasting the case as a waste of the court's time and suggesting the plaintiff's attorney may have to compensate the president's lawyer.

In an argument popular on the Internet and taken seriously practically nowhere else, Obama's critics argue he is ineligible to be president because he is not a "natural-born citizen" as the Constitution requires.

In response last summer, Obama's campaign posted his Hawaiian birth certificate on its Web site. But the lawsuit argues it is a fake and that Obama was actually born in his father's homeland of Kenya, even though Hawaiian officials have said the document is authentic.

"This case, if it were allowed to proceed, would deserve mention in one of those books that seek to prove that the law is foolish or that America has too many lawyers with not enough to do," U.S. District Judge James Robertson said in his written opinion.

The lawsuit didn't even use Obama's legal name but called him "Barry Soetoro," the name he went by while attending elementary school in Indonesia. It's one of many that has been filed claiming Obama is ineligible to serve as president.

Robertson ordered plaintiff's attorney John Hemenway of Colorado Springs, Colo., to show why he hasn't violated court rules barring frivolous and harassing cases and shouldn't have to pay Obama's attorney, Bob Bauer, for his time arguing that the case should be thrown out.

Copyright © 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

This ranks right up there with the Mystery if Led Zeppelin Played Wheaten Community and Recreation center in January 1970.

No One (not even the rain) Wrote:
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> This ranks right up there with the Mystery if Led
> Zeppelin Played Wheaten Community and Recreation
> center in January 1970.


They did; however, the post waited until the last part of the article to tell us the answer to that mystery.

And Sting sang "Tempted" with Difford & Tilbrook at the old 9:30 club with only about 100 people in attendence.

On February 9, 2009, a New Jersey attorney, Mr. Mario Apuzzo, filed a lawsuit on behalf of Plaintiffs, Charles F. Kerchner, Jr., Lowell T. Patterson, Darrell James LeNormand and Donald H. Nelson, Jr.

The lawsuit, Civil Action Number. 1:09 –cv-00253 was filed in United States District Court for the District of New Jersey.

The defendants in this case are: Barrack Hussein Obama II, and Individually, a/k/a Barry Soetoro, United States of America, The United States Congress, The United States Senate, The United States House of Representatives, Richard B. Cheney (President of the US Senate, Presiding Officer of Joint Session of Congress, Vice President of the United States and Individually), Nancy Pelosi (Speaker of the House and Individually).

All of the defendants have been served with a copy of the complaint and have 60 days to respond to the complaint. Will they stand up like honest citizens and answer the complaint, or will they hide behind high priced lawyers like Obama has been doing?

Basically, the lawsuit says there is no verifiable proof that Obama is an American citizen and is therefore ineligible to be the President of the United States. It also points out that the United States Code of Federal Regulations was violated by the defendants, during the course of counting Electoral votes, by not asking any members of Congress if they objected to the counts. A normal counting of the votes takes approximately 2 hours. Obama’s took 36 minutes and it is on record that there was no call for any objections.

This lawsuit is important because, the cold hard fact of life is that if Obama is not qualified or eligible to be the President of the United States of America, every action Obama takes is fraudulent. Any Treaty, Executive Order, Agreements, and/or Laws signed by him are not valid and can be rescinded, reneged on or totally ignored by any Nation on Earth, including future American administrations, now and into the distant future. Any trade agreements between Nations and Corporations can be denied or rescinded.

By the very nature of Obama’s citizenship being questioned, it places the liberty of all Americans in jeopardy. Obama himself, can end all lawsuits, quiet all questions, stop all Internet chatter about his citizenship by simply producing a legitimate Birth Certificate. What reason could he have for employing legal firms to obstruct anyone from seeing where he was born?

Obama has used three law firms to keep his birth place secret. There is no proof that he was born in America. Obama steadfastly refuses to provide any proof that he is an American citizen. Most of us have heard of his "Certification of Live Birth" in Hawaii. Any person born in any location on Earth can have the State of Hawaii give them a "Certification of Live Birth." This document has a space on it asking what country the applicant was born in. Hawaii has two birth documents. A "Certification" which is given to anyone who asks for it, regardless of what country they were born in, and a "Certificate," that is only given to people born in Hawaii.

Obama and the major news companies in America proudly show an ignorant populace the "Certification." It proves only that a human being was born somewhere on this particular Planet.

Obama Can Not Be POTUS


Major Premise: To be POTUS, the candidate’s eligibility must be publicly known.

Minor Premise: Obama’s eligibility is not publicly known.

This syllogism responds only to rules of deductive logic and cannot be overturned by any human action. If the premises are taken to be true, then the conclusion must be true. There is no law or statute that requires the rules of logic to be proven in a court of law for them to be enforceable. The laws of logic are compelled by nature, and cannot be challenged by any law of man.

Therefore, the conclusion of this syllogism cannot be questioned by humans of any authority. No human is empowered to alter, rewrite, or adjudicate the laws of the universe.

Conclusion:

Therefore, Obama is not POTUS.

Honorable Robert M. Gates, 3 Mar. 2009

Enough is enough! You must be aware at this point of the tempest brewing among the Rank and File. I am writing you in an effort to appeal to your sense of concern for the Military; a concern we share not only for the Military as a whole but for each and every individual who wears the Uniform in the Service of our Country. I am in this regard specifically asking you for your help. I implore you to not wait until the "pot boils over" and we find ourselves in total disarray.

I am convinced, beyond any doubt, that the moral well being and efficiency of our fighting forces to defend our Country is soon to be hanging in a precarious balance if not already. In my humble estimation this is NOT a theoretical possibility to construct a thesis or a contingency plan about. It is a reality and is happening right now. Resolution of this issue must be accomplished in the most expeditious manner available at your disposal to gain immediate relief to those of us who are struggling to fully comply with our sworn Oath to the Constitution while being conflicted by questions relating to the qualifications of the POTUS to hold the office in full and absolute compliance with the Natural Born Citizen Clause.

Regardless of differences in the color of our uniforms, the color of our skin, religion or gender WE are Brothers and Sisters in Arms and our family is being torn apart. Are you not looking and listening to what is happening around you? How can anyone of good conscious stand by and let this happen to us? I for one cannot! You must care enough to intercede to stop this. Is this not within your power to do so? Why have you not acted already? What is it that you are waiting for?

If you have any doubts of what I am saying is true you need look no further than the comments made on the Military.com site regarding the actions of Lt. Scott Easterling who in my opinion is an absolutely courageous young Army Officer. Irrespective of your personal opinion of his actions, one thing is abundantly clear; the horrible, hateful and demeaning things that were being said about him and one to the other among my Brothers and Sisters in Arms were things that I have NEVER experienced in ALL my years of military service. It is no less than gut retching to see this happening. The wounds that are being inflicted will NOT be healed by any Medicine I have at my disposal. There is nothing I learned in Medical School or in my training as a Flight Surgeon that can fix this; save the absolute power of Truth. The POTUS must stop concealing the documents once and for all and the issue of his qualifications must be addressed. Make no mistake; any adverse consequences to the troops as a result of your failure to act responsibly will be in large part directly on your head.

Have you considered the legal ramifications for our fighting forces if for any reason the POTUS is not qualified. Are they in Iraq illegally? If so does this make them terrorists under International law as the Islamic radical elements have been calling them? Have they given up their Geneva protections and do not even know this? If so when captured can they be killed or tortured without International legal ramifications? Have they been stripped of the legal protections by the Soldiers and Sailors Civil Relief act? Are you willing to allow this risk to them when they are fighting for us?

Once again I find myself at a loss of words to try to explain the abject and total dismay I have at the administration to include the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court to allow the painful division now occurring in our military to proceed unabated. I hope that do not need to remind you that you as well took an Oath to support and defend the Constitution. As a point of honor you are either willing to do this or you are not. If you are not then preserve your honor, resign and let someone who cares more about us than that do what is right.

I again respectfully implore you to act within your powers and help us. It is absolutely true and is my Prayer to my Creator to allow me to suffer the slings and arrows of being thought a fool rather than to have my convictions realized that persons of responsibility have allowed through negligence to have the Office of the President of the United States to be USURPED; it is self evident however, that whatever the outcome we must know the truth.

V/R

Lt Col David A. Earl-Graef USAFR MC

Posted by Defend Our Freedoms Foundation at 3/12/2009 5:56 AM
Categories: activism

Attention Defend Our Freedoms Foundation and its followers.

This has been proven and accepted by various independent and opposing parties. Not to mention, it is so March 2008. Get with the times.

Therefore, the conclusion is that you...
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300,000 Jobs to Illegals



An estimated 300,000 construction jobs paid for by the stimulus plan will go to illegal workers after leading Democrats removed a provision requiring verification of citizenship.

The House version of the $787 billion stimulus bill required verification of the legal residency of anyone put to work by its spending. But that provision was removed from the bill before members of Congress met to reconcile the House and Senate versions of the bill.

Steven Camarota, director of research for the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS), tells Newsmax the verification provision was deleted by Democratic leaders even before the bill reached the conference committee, where differences between House and Senate legislation are normally ironed out.

"When it got to conference, the top people -- not just the conference members, but the top people: Reid, Pelosi, and Obama -- chose to kill the provision and not include it," Camarota says. "This was a purposeful decision."

The provision would have required that workers’ names to be vetted through the Internet-based E-Verify system. E-Verify, a joint project of the Department of Homeland Security and the Social Security Administration, gives employers a quick means of verifying employee eligibility.

"E-Verify is our most effective tool for preventing illegal immigrants from getting jobs, and they chose not to use it," says Camarota.

The estimate of 300,000 construction jobs is based on U.S. Census and other studies showing that approximately 15 percent of U.S. construction workers are illegal immigrants.

"In general construction jobs are reasonably good paying jobs for working class people, and we’re talking about perhaps 300,000 of them going to people who aren’t supposed to be even in the country,"

Camarota says. "And this is money coming from taxpayers. The whole point of the stimulus is to put Americans back to work. And by not including E-Verify, it’s a terrible slap in the face to U.S. construction workers, who are currently experiencing a 10 percent, sometimes even 15 percent unemployment rate."

I've always thought he was born in Kenya or adopted by a kenya anyway.

I jsut heard that all ICE raids Have been CALLED OFF!

How wonderful is this. Guess Nancy Peloski Is a happy little camper.

Mary Wrote:
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> I've always thought he was born in Kenya or
> adopted by a kenya anyway.

It' always going to be an issue until we find out the truth

Mary you already know the truth - Obama is an evil cheater socialist scumbag. Now go away and let the grown-ups discuss how best to save your stupid ass...

Mary Wrote:
> It' always going to be an issue until we find out the truth


Pretty soon we'll be hearing about fake moon landings and stories about Sasquatch.

NEWS FLASH:

There are people that look Asian, Indian, Black etc... and they were born in the US.

Can we please get back to the stories of Obama's mothers uncle had a daughter with a friend who's aunt once saw some guy at an airport who was a suspected terrorist?

These stories provide better comedy.

Lurker. Wrote:
>>> Can we please get back to the stories of Obama's


He turned me into a newt!

Federal Criminal Complaint Contends Obama Ineligible


A 1975 graduate of the U.S. Naval Academy in Annapolis has raised the stakes in the ongoing dispute over Obama's eligibility to be president, filing a criminal complaint against the "imposter" with the U.S. attorney's office for the Eastern District of Tennessee.

Retired U.S. Navy officer Walter Francis Fitzpatrick III, who has run a campaign for two decades to uncover and try to correct what he believes are criminal activities within the military, accused the president of "treason."

In his complaint addressed to Obama via U.S Attorney Russell Dedrick and Assistant U.S. Attorney Edward Schmutzer, Eastern District, Tennessee, Fitzpatrick wrote: "I have observed and extensively recorded invidious attacks by military-political aristocrats against the Constitution for twenty years.

"Now you have broken in and entered the White House by force of contrivance, concealment, conceit, dissembling, and deceit. Posing as an impostor president and commander in chief you have stripped civilian command and control over the military establishment."

"I identify you as a foreign born domestic enemy."

tinfoilhat

LM,
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OPEC Engineered Obama’s Harvard Admission (oops! More Obama Skeletons)

September 03, 2008 By: admin0 Category: foreign influence, the Obama Problem

This just surfaced, rather innocently, as a matter of fact.
Legendary civil rights lawyer, Percy Sutton, 87 yrs old, was being interviewed and just innocently admitted that years ago, Dr. Khalid Abdullah Tariq Al-Mansour called him and asked him to use his (Percy’s) connections at Harvard to help Barack Obama get him into law school.

Now the question is who is this gentleman?

Turns out, “his business and professional interests include co-founding the International Law Firm of Al-Waleed, Al-Talal & Al-Mansour, representing the O.P.E.C. interest of the famous Los Angeles trial, I.M.A.W.C. vs. O.P.E.C., according to African Venture partners Here is Percy Sutton, Esq. on Inside City Hall: speaking the truth, but revealing yet another little skeleton about Barack Obama:

So, know we know why he doesn’t want offshore drilling>
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See the interview with Percy Sutton on the link

http://drbobbiannewhite.890m.com/demsfo ... nge/?p=133

This is from a RETIRED NAVY OFFICER

Bob Unruh -- World Net Daily
In his complaint addressed to Obama via U.S Attorney Russell Dedrick and Assistant U.S. Attorney Edward Schmutzer, Eastern District, Tennessee, Fitzpatrick wrote: "You have broken in and entered the White House by force of contrivance, concealment, conceit, dissembling, and deceit. Posing as an impostor president and commander in chief you have stripped civilian command and control over the military establishment. .. I identify you as a foreign born domestic enemy." ...

wow you mean RETIRED NAVY OFFICERS can be delusional morons - who-da thunk... Maybe he should do an inventory of the strawberries!

Suggesting eligibility proof gets congressman scorned
Faces comments including, 'Take the Reynolds Wrap off your head'

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Posted: March 23, 2009
10:05 pm Eastern


By Bob Unruh
© 2009 WorldNetDaily



U.S. Rep. Bill Posey

A new member of Congress arrived in Washington to a flood of questions from his constituency about Barack Obama's eligibility to be president: Was he really born in the United States, and was he qualified under the Constitution's requirement that the office be occupied only by a "natural born" citizen?

So U.S. Rep. Bill Posey did what most congressmen would do regarding a subject of grave concern to their voters: He proposed a bill that would require future presidential candidates to document their eligibility. And that has earned him scorn and ridicule.

"What you should do is stop embarrassing yourself and take the Reynolds Wrap off your head," MSNBC commentator Keith Olbermann suggested to Posey.

...wait if he is not American born can he really be President?

Could A Perfect Storm Be Brewing?


Tasked by the FBI to provide "informational analysis" on conditions which could be construed as potentially harmful to civil order and national security, InfraGard, of the FBI's National Infrastructure Protection Center (NIPC), issued an unclassified Protective Intelligence Communication report in March 2009 regarding the "crescendo" of public concern about Obama's presidential eligibility.

Authored by Dr. Lyle J. Rapacki, Protective Intelligence Specialist and Agent, the report summarizes the substance of legal challenges to Obama on the question of his constitutional eligibility and concludes that if it "should be discovered Mr. Obama is ineligible, a constitutional crisis would ensue attempting to determine which of his executive branch orders should be valid." It goes on to warn that "if...Mr. Obama fights revealing his documentation, there is growing concern of civil unrest, or worse, being unleashed in the streets of our nation. The economic crisis coupled with this type of a constitutional crisis could prove to be a flashpoint that would test conventional law enforcement and elements of homeland security."

The stream of law suits, the most recent of which have been tendered by high ranking military officers and state legislators, to compel Obama to prove his eligibility have been unremitting and increasingly vocal. A request for "quo warranto" action, an apparent last-ditch legal remedy, was recently delivered to both the US Attorney for the District of Columbia and to the Attorney General.

Dovetailing with this unsettling assessment, and pretty much out of public view, are the following national security developments which, in their totality, could well signal acute domestic instability in the period ahead.

Upon the recommendation of the Army's Strategic Studies Institute, The Army Times reported that a somewhat euphemistically dubbed "Consequence Management Response Force (CCMRF)," currently the role of the 3rd Infantry Division's 1st Brigade Combat Team, but which, reportedly, might eventually comprise upwards of 80,000 troops, is being trained and readied to deal with what could be widespread civil disorder resulting from an "unforeseen economic collapse" or "loss of a functional political and legal order."

Symptomatic of festering civil unrest are the many "tea parties" springing up around the country, growing fears of economic disintegration and of both crippling terrorist attacks and even of perceived federal overreaching. Add to this the very real threat of a rogue nuclear EMP (electro-magnetic pulse) attack on the homeland which could instantaneously reduce the country to a paralytic pre-industrial condition, plus the unrest on our southern border, and there appears to be ample and justifiable cause for concern and appropriate contingency planning at every level of government.

Clearly, a perfect storm could, indeed, be brewing. Thus, it is only prudent that we are all properly prepared.

Related -- "Something of Historic Proportions is happening"

Damn, it's true. I just downloaded Obama's birth certificate off of whitehouse.gov and opened it in illustrator. Sure enough, it's fake as hell. I thought it was a joke but it's not. What an epic failure. He can't even outsource a company to close an adobe illustrator document correctly.

Dumb cunt.

Born in Mali

Ah, the birth of Donald Trump and the birth of the death of Republican Party stemmed from birtherism. The Republican whores are responsible for creating what would eventually be their demise. The man anointed to delegitimize the president as an American will drive them out of American politics. How ironic.

Couldn't be happening to a better group of people.



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Gerry how does it feel to not even be wanted by your own party! I would suggest killing yousrself but you do such a good job at 7-11, I dont know anyone who makes a big bite like you.