Well, I did and I could use some help now, like you wouldn't believe.

I attended a British Royal Marine birthday party hosted by the British Embassy, held at the Marine Corps museum at the Navy Yard in Sept. of 2000, where I was toe-to-toe with the devil, Atta. He had on what looked like a Navy's tan uniform, with only a name tag with his name. He was with another terrorist, I don't recall his name but I'll never forget his face, and a group of middle easterners. I reported this at the time to all the obvious agencies, and nothing. Then I started noticing odd things, weird things happening in my life, people knowing things about me they shouldn't, files deleted from my computer, objects moved around or gone from my home. I've become isolated, my friends and family have been told not to contact me, no one will tell me who has contacted them, it's almost as if they have been threatened. I'm being harassed, I can't get a job. I just discovered this month my neighbors have been told to not help me in anyway and to call me, "crazy". I love our country and our military, and I know what I saw and if that makes me crazy, then call me crazy. But with God as my witness, my hand on the Bible and on the graves of my relatives, this is the truth and we need more of it! My neighbor who just moved in across from me in March of this year, and paid cash for his place, said I should kill myself, or commit myself. He's in his late 40's and plays with kids toys. Needless to say for along time now my life has not been mine, only through the grace of God have I withstood, but I'm reaching out now, beyond my comfort zone for help, intelligent
positive ideas please, I want my life back, I want to live again.

i hate people who post emails they get.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

spunky2 Wrote:
>> intelligent positive ideas please

spunky2 Wrote:
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> He had on what looked like a Navy's tan uniform

I'm lost...which navy?

I thought it was pretty much confirmed that Atta was in Prague at that time? I get so confused.

I wish spunky2 would get out more and "they" would leave him alone. While he is stuck at home, he posts notes here that all the hispanics should be deported.

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> spunky2 Wrote:
> >> intelligent positive ideas please
>
>


another hateful post using those less fortunate then yourself (I assume thats the case anyway) for personal sniping.

Vince(1) Wrote:

Attachments:

To: GRAVIS

It's obvious you're a HATER, and it's to bad your momma didn't practice your motto :

"I'm pro-abortion, not pro-choice." prior to you!

This is NO email posting, this is real. Is this how you treat things you can't or won't wrap your mind around? This possibly shows the depth of your intelligence and thereby the limits, and exposes you for who, and what you are.

To: TheMeeper

What are you afraid of? This isn't happening to you. If you can't believe this then I am so glad I did not share everything else. The government is counting on idiots like you to swallow what they are told and not ask questions. You make a good idiot!

TO: PGENS

US NAVY, what other Navy is there? Duh? Where are you from anyway?

You know what they say about assuming (assume)? What makes you think I am a male?

You took my statement out of context, the entire message should be read. We ran our Native Americans off their lands for greed unfortunately an they are treated worse then an illegal, even now, this is not right. I feel illegals came here knowing they were breaking our laws and should be returned to their native country. The majority of illegals just happen to be Latino, as I am guessing you are too.

I do get out and I am followed. My current attorney told me not to tell him where I get a job, because he would have to share that information, I'm assuming with the FBI. Because of this I have lost 3 jobs already and am unable to obtain one currently. I have never been arrested or have a criminal record.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 08/31/2008 06:28PM by spunky2.

So I guess the point of the post is that Atta was either hired by or a part of the US Navy, and he was sent to fly a plane into WTC. Thanks, move on.



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Radiophile wrote:


"I thought it was pretty much confirmed that Atta was in Prague at that time? I get so confused."


Wasn't it also confirmed that Iraq had WMD? I know what I saw, thaty's why I won't give up on this, because it's important, no one wants to listen or accept the possibly because of what it means. Well, I care! It's cost me my life and the quality of life I should have had with my children. But I can't help thinking about the 27 years I spent in the Marines and how much that meant to me, and to see the espirit de corp in the young faces of each marine never leaves you. Our military deserves the truth and someone to fight for it and them! They are much easier to love while they are alive.

Think about it Diplomats at that time could come and go through out airports without being tracked, as well as their passengers.

THINK!

People:

I come to you for some help, ideas, something; instead what I get is attacked. If this is a sample of America, then look where we have come, we're doomed. We dance around the issue throwing darts at the messenger. Maybe I overestimated my audience, but this is your country too isn't it?

THINK! The government is betting you won't THINK until it's to late! In reality it is.

PGEN wrote:


"So I guess the point of the post is that Atta was either hired by or a part of the US Navy, and he was sent to fly a plane into WTC. Thanks, move on."


If you have a military ID, diplomat etc., you can get on a base and purchase any military clothing you want. That wasn't my point and I never said any of that, do you work for the government?

I or anyone else is not attacking your message - just your forum you choose to deliver it in.

There are better places on the internt to discuss conspiracy theories, find a lawyer to sue Ebay, to locate a "missing" teenager, etc than FXU. If you need DWI advise, wish to blabber about your opinion on car window tinting, bitch about you children's high school - then you came to the right place.

To; Radiophile

OK, where? I disagree about the attacks, though.

I actually think this is as good a place as any, I live here and I am asking for community support which is lacking. Since living here in the richest county in the world I have discovered very little support of any kind really. There's a high suicide rate among teenagers and no anger management classes of any kind for them in a county with out of control divorcing parents. We should have the best schools in the nation,with the best food choices, we don't. In fact I know a PTA, Pres. who smokes pot.

There needs to be more outreach and services for our youth, they need fun wholesome places to go, We are cheating and hurting our kids, why should I think anyone would care about what I am saying when Fairfax County is scarificing their future generations?

All of this will come back to haunt you again, it's not like I am the only one who knows and is concerned. It won't go away, denial it's a funny thing.



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spunky2 Wrote:
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> There needs to be more outreach and services for
> our youth, they need fun wholesome places to go,
> We are cheating and hurting our kids, why should I
> think anyone would care about what I am saying
> when Fairfax County is scarificing their future
> generations?

Scarificing? As in scaring or scarring? I'm so confused. What does the above have to do with the government isolating you, anyway?

spunky2 Wrote:
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> Radiophile wrote:
>
>
> "I thought it was pretty much confirmed that Atta
> was in Prague at that time? I get so confused."
>
>
> Wasn't it also confirmed that Iraq had WMD? I
> know what I saw, thaty's why I won't give up on
> this, because it's important, no one wants to
> listen or accept the possibly because of what it
> means. Well, I care! It's cost me my life and the
> quality of life I should have had with my
> children. But I can't help thinking about the 27
> years I spent in the Marines and how much that
> meant to me, and to see the espirit de corp in the
> young faces of each marine never leaves you. Our
> military deserves the truth and someone to fight
> for it and them! They are much easier to love
> while they are alive.
>
> Think about it Diplomats at that time could come
> and go through out airports without being tracked,
> as well as their passengers.
>
> THINK!

No, it wasn't confirmed in the last six or 10 years Iraq had any WMD's the President spoke of. Diplomats are tracked, in and out, in our system and most systems in the world; remember, a diplomat must be recognized by our government as a diplomat or they don't have that role, or those privileges. I think what you are thinking of is "diplomatic pouches," a bag that is not physically searched they can carry in' or freight in.

Diplomats also do not have free access to military installations; they must be invited, or granted escorted permission.

spunky2 Wrote:
>> What are you afraid of?

I understand that fear is my friend, but not always. Never turn your back on fear. It should always be in front of you, like a thing that might have to be killed.


This isn't happening to you.

It's not happening to you either.

FUNdenmental wrote:

"No, it wasn't confirmed in the last six or 10 years Iraq had any WMD's the President spoke of. Diplomats are tracked, in and out, in our system and most systems in the world; remember, a diplomat must be recognized by our government as a diplomat or they don't have that role, or those privileges. I think what you are thinking of is "diplomatic pouches," a bag that is not physically searched they can carry in' or freight in.

Diplomats also do not have free access to military installations; they must be invited, or granted escorted permission."


You are right about the WMD's, it was a test to see if anyone was awake and abit of sarcasism, my bad.

Charter flights or private flights are not held to the same standard as commercial, it's an entirely different playbook, and the more money you have the more playbooks there are.

Diplomats have military medical coverage, just like Congress. They are not escorted around and do have free access to that particular military installation
which sales military uniforms, tax-free items and free meds. I have seen enough of them shopping to know.



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TheMeeper wrote:


"I understand that fear is my friend, but not always. Never turn your back on fear. It should always be in front of you, like a thing that might have to be killed.


This isn't happening to you.

It's not happening to you either."

I beg your pardon! But I want to make sure I am understanding you clearly, are you threatening me!
Fear can produce courage in those with character, and have the strength to follow their convictions and the truth, obviously you have none of these!
I would never be so bold as to speculate about what someone knows or doesn't, since I'm not God, but apparently you seem to think you are all knowing?



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This is like a really bad Kafka novel. And by really bad, I'm talking plagiarism, bad grammar... the whole nine yards.

DC2NYC wrote:

"This is like a really bad Kafka novel. And by really bad, I'm talking plagiarism, bad grammar... the whole nine yards."


I personally don't make a habit of wasting my time reading bad literature, when there's so much good stuff around, that must be something you do regularly. I can't say I have ever heard of Kafka and I take offense to any accusation of plagiarism on my part. I noticed you gave no examples to support your logic, which undermines your theory.

It's like you said something ugly, and ran away; like a child. Next time just keep running; put-up or shut-up.

Yes, I suppose what's happening to our country is like a really bad novel, except people have really lost their lives, or suffered permanent injury and families will never be the same as a result, nor will we, and why? Because of lies! We as a country, as a state, as a county, as a people are better then this, and we should demand better and nothing less out of all who serve us.

spunky2 Wrote:
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I can't say I have ever heard of Kafka
> and I take offense to any accusation of plagiarism
> on my part. I noticed you gave no examples to
> support your logic, which undermines your theory.

Oh, I'm sorry... I would've elaborated, but a government spy must've injected me with a sleeping agent and knocked me out last night. Then again, it was 2AM... Strange, though--how they didn't get YOU...

Never heard of Kafka, Hmm? I suppose that's because you've spent more time watching reruns of Conspiracy Theory, Enemy of the State, and the like instead of reading the classics.

You really should read Kafka's The Trial. I think you'll identify with Joseph K. Don't want to spoil the fun for you, so I'll leave you to discover it on your own, assuming you're allowed in bookstores and all.

You asked for positive ideas, though, so I'm going to share one--try not to take it the wrong way. Seek therapy. Seriously. You likely suffer from a personality disorder of some degree, that causes you to seek attention by associating yourself with a grandiose event, such as 9/11. It's actually not that uncommon, and isn't anything to feel ashamed about.

In fact, there may indeed be some truth to your story--perhaps you even did see Mohammed Atta. After all, the man did spend time in this area and by most accounts didn't possess the ability to become invisible. But what's difficult to grasp here is the alleged consequence of your "seeing him". To my knowledge, several people (including those in the Laurel, MD area where I grew up who allegedly saw Atta at the Valencia Motel) also reported their sightings and have had no such negative experience and/or paranoia. Their information was simply recorded and cataloged along with the countless other sightings of these scumbags.

Do you see my question? Essentially, it's "what's the angle here?" What do you think the government (or whomever you feel is out to get you) is trying to suppress? The mere fact that you saw a Atta impersonating a naval officer? What would they gain by concealing that?

Instead, I think that something in your mind may be causing you to tell fantastic, unsubstantiated tales to complete strangers in the wee hours of the night. But that's just me.

I wish you well, and hope you find whatever it is you're looking for. But then again, I may or may not also one of the government spies specifically tasked with tormenting you, so this can all be taken with a hefty grain of salt...

TO: DC2NYC

I debated rather to respond to your raving or not, since you never got to the point. You accused me of plagiarism and then failed to prove your theory, which undermines your entire response and makes you look like an idiot.

I don't watch TV. You said Kafka. was bad, really bad, how can he be a classic?

You are an arrogant individual, do you work for this administration?

It's one thing to see him out on the streets, and I did see two others at Dave and Busters at White Flint Mall in August 2001, which I reported, no follow-up. They were playing thegames and leaving the tickets in the machines while I watched my daughter play. I thought that was odd and started watching them, and collecting their tickets. They left two beautful girls alone at their table while they played. What was odd about the girls is that they weren't socializing with one another, they just set there like robots with their heads down. I found myself staring at the two men, one of whom had been at the birthday party at the Navy Yard. When they saw me staring they started staring back and I could hear one say, "I hope she's taking an airplane flight" and he turned around as he was talking. Dave and Busters said they had no cameras.

It's another to see Atta at a VIP (VERY IMPORTANT PEOPLE) function, where
you had to have an invitation to attend. This is significant and not the only weird thing I have seen in regards to this subject that is being ignored.

Thank you for your apparent sincere concern, but I am fine.

I feel the more people I tell, the more likely it will hit the right person at the right time. Everything happens for a reason, I saw what I have seen for a reason. I have had the life I have had for a reason and I am sharing it for the best reasons. Can you wrap your mind around that, Yankee?



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spunky2 Wrote:
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> TO: DC2NYC
>
> I debated rather to respond to your raving or not,
> since you never got to the point. You accused me
> of plagiarism and then failed to prove your
> theory, which undermines your entire response and
> makes you look like an idiot.
>
> I don't watch TV. You said Kafka. was bad, really
> bad, how can he be a classic?
>
> You are an arrogant individual, do you work for
> this administration?
>
> It's one thing to see him out on the streets, and
> I did see two others at Dave and Busters at White
> Flint Mall in August 2001, which I reported, no
> follow-up. They were playing thegames and leaving
> the tickets in the machines while I watched my
> daughter play. I thought that was odd and started
> watching them, and collecting their tickets. They
> left two beautful girls alone at their table while
> they played. What was odd about the girls is that
> they weren't socializing with one another, they
> just set there like robots with their heads down.
> I found myself staring at the two men, one of whom
> had been at the birthday party at the Navy Yard.
> When they saw me staring they started staring back
> and I could hear one say, "I hope she's taking an
> airplane flight" and he turned around as he was
> talking. Dave and Busters said they had no
> cameras.
>
> The difference is that Atta was at a VIP (VERY
> IMPORTANT PEOPLE) function, where
> you had to have an invitation to attend. This is
> significant and not the only weird thing I have
> seen in regards to this subject that is being
> ignored.
>
> Thank you for your apparent sincere concern, but I
> am fine.
>
> I feel the more people I tell, the more likely it
> will hit the right person at the right time.
> Everything happens for a reason, I saw what I have
> seen for a reason. I have had the life I have had
> for a reason and I am sharing it for the best
> reasons. Can you wrap your mind around that,
> Yankee?


Nooooo, I think it's you who has missed the point, Secret Agent Spunky. I was quite clear in my references to a pair of films that your story reeks of: Conspiracy Theory and Enemy of the State. And Kafka's The Trial is the standard among paranoia novels, particularly in regards to one's government. The fact that you admittedly know nothing of Franz Kafka kinda makes you the one looking like an idiot, I'm sorry to say. And to clarify further for our friends on the short bus, I did not say that Kafka was bad. Rather, I suggested that your story read like a really bad Kafka wannabe. See the difference there?

But again, let me spell this out--especially now that you've literally gone out there even further with your "Dave and Busters" theory. (Rolls eyes...)

Seriously--the odds of you (or anyone outside of the hijackers' immediate circle themselves) seeing a total of three of these people within two months of 9/11 is astronomical, at best. Unless, of course, you were a CIA operative tasked with tailing them. And if that's the case, we all know how well that played out...

To also suggest that you had this personal "moment" with two of these men--and that one of them actually made that snide comment (in English, mind you) is utterly preposterous. And frankly, stories like this insult those who truly do have familial connections to that tragic day.

Here's my question for you: what exactly do you hope to accomplish by sharing this information, if not solely for the attention it brings you? You mention having seen it for a reason--okay... so what's the reason? What do you want and/or expect the rest of the world to do, now that you've informed us that you allegedly saw some hijackers after the fact and now believe you're being persecuted by unseen forces? This "right person" that you speak of--it wouldn't happen to be a book publisher and/or movie producer eager to buy the rights to your story, now would it? ;)

DC2NYC Wrote:
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> Here's my question for you: what exactly do you
> hope to accomplish by sharing this information, if
> not solely for the attention it brings you?

lol don't feed the troll. He was entertaining at first but now just boring.

DC2NYC wrote:

9/1/2008 1:59am

This is like a really bad Kafka novel. And by really bad, I'm talking plagiarism, bad grammar... the whole nine yards.

9/1/2008 8pm
I did not say that Kafka was bad. Rather, I suggested that your story read like a really bad Kafka wannabe. See the difference there?

These are two different statements, idiot!

You accused me
> of plagiarism and then failed to prove your
> theory, which undermines your entire response and
> makes you look like an idiot, again. Plagiarism is when you lift someone elses words, without giving credit. I have never done that in my life, and never would, that's like lying and I'm for the truth. Still for the "short bus" you still came up short on the exact examples which you make reference to. No where will you find this storyline, why? Because it happened, I can't be the only person that knows, there are others, I feel certain of it. But, our government has spread an environment of fear on those who speak out against it. Tell me something 8 , no 9 years ago would you have believed what you know now?

Do you really think if I had a choice I would chose to live the life I've been experienceing? Hell no! If I could turn back time and erase what I have seen, I would, but I can't, and because of that I feel I have a responsibly to convince hard heads like yourself of what I saw, with God as my witness.

DC2NYC wrote:

Seriously--the odds of you (or anyone outside of the hijackers' immediate circle themselves) seeing a total of three of these people within two months of 9/11 is astronomical, at best. Unless, of course, you were a CIA operative tasked with tailing them. And if that's the case, we all know how well that played out...

Please think about what you are saying, there's alot at stake here. I saw Atta in 9/2000, and the other two 8/2001, and yes I heard the one speak English, I think they wanted me to hear what they were saying. They all were extremely arrogant! Atta had the coldest eyes I have ever seen in my life, even though I smiled at him and was directly in front of his face, he never moved one facial muscle. He had a face of cold stone.

Darl'in, I just want the powers that be, to put their powers to use. I reported this at the time to the FBI, news media, BBC, 911 commission and every avenue I thought would help, but no follow-up, nothing. This just didn't seem right to me, does it to you?

Would this not bother you if you had this information, and more?

I will not respond to you in the future, since you've exposed your true identity and nature. How do you live with yourself?



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"They all were extremely arrogant! Atta had the coldest eyes I have ever seen in my life, even though I smiled at him and was directly in front of his face, he never moved one facial muscle. He had a face of cold stone."

I concur about how Atta looked. I saw mug shots of Atta from somewhere after the 9/11 attacks and his face did look very cold.

pgens wrote:

lol don't feed the troll. He was entertaining at first but now just boring

I guess you'll be dryed from starvation soon, ty, u r the troll! I am betting you have very little education, because most of your responses are 1-liners. Because of your comment about my response to illegals, you must also be one, and Hispanic because you are quick to make assumations, that are wrong! You are on here alot, so you are alone and boring. Don't dish out what you can't take amigo.

I will not be responding to you again, I don't like to waste my time talking to idiots.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/01/2008 09:25PM by spunky2.

I have found that idiot posters usually have more words to spew than intelligent ones. Morons usually spend too much time talking and not enough time listening.

So I guess no one would believe me if I said I saw Osama Bin Laden at the 7/11 on Glebe st?

So according to you:

a) Terrorists hang out at Dave & Busters
b) Terrorists wear Navy uniforms
b) Your family ignores you
c) the FBI is out to get you
d) You can't get a job
e) You think pgens is an illegal immigrant

Nuthin' wrong with your situation, lol

spunky2 Wrote:
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> I will not respond to you in the future, since
> you've exposed your true identity and nature.


You won't respond? I doubt that very seriously.

The only potentially good news here is that you'll be voting for Obama; at least, I hope you will. If there's one worthwhile thing you can contribute to our society, it's that. Help change the status quo. Every vote counts, including the bat-$hit crazy ones like yours, m'friend.

But then again, it's probably only a matter of time before you start pontificating about having seen him acting suspiciously at someone's sweet 16 party, and how it's obviously more than just a coincidence that the names "Obama" and "Biden" resemble "bin Laden"... Dear God, where does it all end?

I hate the thought of you racking your disturbed little brain at 2:40 AM again trying to debate things that are clearly beyond your grasp. That having been said, let me leave you with one final thought, to help you sleep tonight. Remember all those nondescript white vans out there in the neighborhood and throughout Fairfax County? They're not really Korean drywall workers' trucks after all. They're government goons, and they're onto you--watching and listening to your every move, just as you've always feared. The gig is up, Spunky. Run... Run like the wind!!!



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spunky2 Wrote:
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> I attended a British Royal Marine birthday party
> hosted by the British Embassy...

>TO: PGENS
>
>US NAVY, what other Navy is there? Duh? Where are you from anyway?

he was in a US navy uniform at a British function?

---

To; Radiophile

OK, where? I disagree about the attacks, though

Here: http://www.totse.com/community/forumdisplay.php?f=156

I obviuosly don't fear as much as those here do. I spoke up, shared some of what I have seen, and I am being attached, it begs the question, why? I am willing to bet most of my responders work for the government, and follow blindly anything they are told to do without thinking, right or wrong, just for a pay check and job security. What kind of security is that? The worse kind.

Atta was about 5'6'', or 7, but then I did have on heels, and around 170lbs. give or take. In a picture you couldn't tell, he had a 1000 yd. stare and sadness in those cold eyes, from a spirit that had been snuffed out long ago, possibly.

This administration is the most arrogant ever in our history. It's a known fact that once Bush came into office he had the Pentagon develop plans to evade Iraq.

Another fact: Walter Reed is known for being on the down low.

Fact: I notified the FBI in 10/2007 that Edgewood, MD, can and does make anthrax.
There's at least one crazy guy, I know of who worked there, who openly boasted about being able to make anthrax, and he threatened to kill at least 2 people.


The highest cancer rates in the US are around MD, Del, and VA. What do they have in common? The Chesapeake Bay. Edgewood has so many chemicals buried underground there, which borders the Bay, that you aren't allowed to kick the dirt with your foot.

I could go on but why bother...



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Wow... You're the gift that just keeps on giving, aren't you?

If only the government had listened to you, right? Is that what you're going on about? Had they listened to the countless warnings you'd given them about terrorists playing video games at Dave & Busters, anthrax makers in scenic Edgewood, MD, and the Chesapeake Bay Sea Monster, maybe we wouldn't be in the mess we're in today. Wait--what mess are we talking about again?

Since you're obviously going to go on, I'd be interested to know if you'd like to share any other random nuggets of frightening, conspiratorial knowledge. But maybe you can give us some foresight from now on--some predictions, if you will; things that we can be on the lookout for... Who knows--maybe your info will help prevent another 9/11. Is that what you want to hear?

But here's the rub: conspiracy theories are only really worthwhile if they have a shred of credibility and ultimately result in the aversion of disaster. When they're spouted off by delusional people who continually insist that they were privy to things of this nature but were powerless to stop them, what good does it do? It's completely pointless to say that you saw Mohammed Atta playing skeeball now. This conversation would only be relevant had you attacked him with said skeeball, bludgeoning him to death on the floor of the tacky and overpriced arcade, and thereby saving thousands of American lives by effectively thwarting his 9/11 plans.

Oh, and by the way--please don't correct me by trying to clarify the difference between Dave & Busters and the Marine Corps Museum. I'm being sarcastic and taking some artistic license here. (The latter of which you should certainly be able to relate to...)

I think you have stayed up way past your bedtime, sweetie. Are you crumpy, or is this your true nature?

Never mind...I'm going to take a wild guess and say, YES!

Take 2 cubes of sugar and get some shut-eye, maybe I'll speak to you tomorrow and maybe I won't.

I'm guessing you meant "grumpy". Because "crumpy" just doesn't make sense. To me, at least.

I'd say goodnight and don't let the bedbugs bite, but that might be misconstrued as yet another conspiracy. Bedbugs, that is. They plant 'em in our homes when we're not looking, you know.

At any rate, in the words of Edward R. Murrow, good night... and good luck.

spunky2 Wrote:
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> I obviuosly don't fear as much as those here do.
> I spoke up, shared some of what I have seen, and I
> am being attached

What did you get attached to? And who is doing it? I am getting confused again.

Spunky has been pwnd over and over again in this thread

Hey Yank (DC2NYC)

you wrote:

But then again, I may or may not also one of the government spies specifically tasked with tormenting you, so this can all be taken with a hefty grain of salt...

You left a word out of this sentence, but this isn't an English class, I got your point and to point it out is extremely petty. My mama always said that people with a small IQ talk about small things and other people, you drive that pt. home.

I don't believe in excuses, but I am a bad typist and it was late.

As for you pgens, do you ever have any original ideas? Oh, my bad! A constant state of confusion would make that difficult.

496: I think, I like YOU? Thanks for noticing.

Why is it that this site has the reputation for having some out-of-control "NAZI" bullies running amuck? That makes you no different then terrorist. Since I posted my comment on the illegal immigrant thread, which pgens negatively commented about, I've been getting phone calls to collect money for starving indian children. You are some sick twisted people. I was kicked out of this site over the weekend,and logged into "Topix", with an indian name.

I must have hit a nerve? Thank you for letting me know, Jerk.

"We are not descended from fearful men, not from men who feared to write, to speak, to associate and to defend causes which were for the moment unpopular. This is no time...to keep silent."
Edward R. Murrow



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/08/2008 07:18AM by spunky2.

spunky2 Wrote:
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> Since I posted my comment on the
> illegal immigrant thread, which pgens negatively
> comment about, I've been getting phone calls to
> collect money for starving indian children. You
> are some sick twisted people. I was kicked out of
> this site over the weekend,and logged into
> "Topix", with an indian name.

lol, talk about paranoia! You know, maybe it is better that you cower in your house and live in fear that people are out to get you. It's probably safer for everyone.

Uh-oh... there's another movie coming out that's going to send Spunky over the deep end:

http://www.eagleeyemovie.com/

No paranoia, just FACTS. I noticed no one denied or even touched on the FACT of the NAZI reputation you have going here. Whatz up with that?

It's so obvious who and what you are...BULLIES! To say the least.

To the person who asked about the Navy uniform, it was the tan top and pants only with no insigna or anyother markings. Atta was wearing a name tag only on his left side breast, with his name. Out of the group he was with, his name was the only one I could pronounce, the rest were totally foreign. It was a computer produced nametag, not a handwritten one, and fairly good size, which they were all wearing, unlike most of the other attendees. Extremely bold!

I noticed RESton started a take off on my thread, for sick humor I suppose, or total boredom, or maybe here's an agent? Ha, Ha? I will not dignify it by viewing or acknowledging the insecure bullies within this site again.

Small people talk about small things.

TO DC2NYC or YANKEE; Your quote was small like you; Murrow, was better represented in the quote I noted. FYI, don't spout off, unless you want it broken off in your ass, besides you inaccurately quoted the man.

This must be all some of you live for, how sad :-( Get a life! I bet none of you have relationships, who would put up with your crap? You have to much negative energy.........................................................

It's pretty ironic that you quote Edward R. Murrow.

Murrow openly criticized injustice in a manner that the public could understand, and he was effective at doing it. You, on the other hand, are anonymously posting some batshit looney conspiracy theory on an internet site, and are basically being told to fuck off by everyone.

See the difference?

And as far as being "bullied"- if you don't want to be treated like a fool, stop acting like one.

I like how he says "I will not dignify it by viewing or acknowledging the insecure bullies within this site again" and then immediately proceeds to respond to two of them in the same post. lol.

Meeper

You never answered my question:
You wrote:

"I understand that fear is my friend, but not always. Never turn your back on fear. It should always be in front of you, like a thing that might have to be killed."

My question to you was: are you threatening me?

I never got a reply, so legally that assumation would be, "YES!"

In which case I will need to contact the police.

So, you are not only a "BULLY", but a "TERRORIST"! Aren't you Canadian?
If so, or regardless, that makes you totally "STUPID" at both.



My statement:
"This isn't happening to you."

Yours:
"It's not happening to you either." What a total arrogant asshole of a JERK! You think you're God, I pity your family and what they must go through.


Now BOZO, if I am not mistaken we all post here anonymously, unless of course your family and friends call you "THEMEEPER" too. I wouldn't doubt it. Whatz up with that?


Murrow, I feel would beat your ass, from his death bed and probably win, for bringing a dark cloud over the spirit of his words. Here standing my ground against, not everybody as you said (ck. the viewers count dickhead)but only a few hard-headed morons. I embody the spirit behind his quote closer then you've probably ever thought about in your life. You no doubt have thought more about sex then anything else, along with the other repeat responders here. I am an American, and finer people then you have fought and died for the right for our freedoms, and are doing so right now. I be damned if I'll let you intimidate, or tell me what to do. I have just as much right to be here as you, maybe more...Canadian!

The only one that appears to be the fool is "YOU!"

Oh, by the way, I am not a "MAN", I am much better, I am a "WOMAN."

Do you know the DIFFERENCE?


I dropped those hints way back in this thread, but I guess some of you can't read.

You are sticking out like a DIAMOND in a GOATS' ASS.

What was that?

Did you hear it? That noise!

Canadian...you just got it broke off in your ass, by an AMERICAN WOMAN...FOOL!!!

I will end all my responses to this thread on this note...

HAPPY TRAILS PEOPLE!
(I pray all these NAZIS are sterile!)

spunky2 Wrote:
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(ck. the viewers count dickhead)



Further proof that it's all about the attention, Spunky.
Sweet, satisfying attention... from perfect strangers.

Sad.

Go heat yourself up another gallon bucket of extra-buttery popcorn and bonbons and camp out in front of your imaginary surveillance cameras, Sweet Tooth.

.

spunky2 Wrote:
>> "I understand that fear is my friend, but not always. Never turn your back on fear. It should always be in front of you, like a thing that might have to be killed."

My question to you was: are you threatening me?


It's a Hunter S. Thompson quote, dummy.

I thought everyone, including those placed in high levels of government, CIA, NSA, FBI, and all the black ops guys where already threatening him/her/it. Hey look, I just got an email from my black ops friends who are monitoring this thread. It said "hey have a look at this" and I copied the Internetz link out of it.

The email self-secure-deleted (the equivalence of a "burn bag" in the parlance we on the "inside" use), but the link was a live video feed to your place they have from one of their surveillance vehicles. All I see is a bunch of cats, oddly-constructed things that look like aluminum foil sailboats, and stacks of newspapers, books, and magazines.

TheMeeper Wrote:

> It's a Hunter S. Thompson quote, dummy.


She's never heard of Franz Kafka, either. I'm guessing if it's anything beyond the Nancy Drew level--or possibly romance novels with Favio on the cover--we've lost her.

"WORD!"

A WOMAN has the right to change her mind.

Dosen't it seem odd that since 9/11, there hasn't been another attack on the same scale as 9/11? It isn't because of the great job DHS has done either, because we have constantly heard how people have gotten items through TSA time after time.

There hasn't even been an attempt made to compare to the same scale as 9/11, does that not send up flags to anyone but me?

spunky2 Wrote:
>>> Dosen't it seem odd that since 9/11, there hasn't been another attack...
...does that not send up flags to anyone but me?


Well, using that erroneous form of logic, one could also conclude that the 2003 space shuttle disaster was also a govt. conspiracy. Doesn't it seem odd that there hasn't been another accident since then?

Seriously, is it really that hard to believe that a couple of guys snuck knives onto airplanes and then crashed them into buildings. It's a pretty simple plan, and unfortunately we were unprepared for it and it worked. Why is that so hard to believe?

An asteroid hasn't collided with the earth, wiping out most life on it, for 65 million years. Does that not send up flags to anyone but me? Coincidence?

Radiophile Wrote:
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> I thought it was pretty much confirmed that Atta
> was in Prague at that time? I get so confused.


Meeting with Iraqi intelligence, right?

No, they abandoned that claim as soon as it got them what they wished for. I don't even think it was Atta they claimed met with Iraqis in Prague.

He entered the US in June of 2000 with Marwan al-Shehhi to attend flight school at Huffman Aviation in Florida. Considering he was still studying in November of 2000, when he and al-Shehhi both received instrument ratings, he probably wasn't in DC when the OP claims he saw him. Though, you never know. Stranger shit has happened.

Hey Bob what does "OP" stand for?

TheMeeper and pgens= Elliot
plus numerous other
names, to many to name
here and now.

An asteroid or space shuttle were not used to terrorize our country into a war. Nor did we spend billions to ensure our future safety through the creation of, DHS,another government agency,only to find it's riddled with holes even now.

You better watch it some uneducated rednecks that run around in here may start calling ya elitist, yank.

Well that's a theory that makes a whole lot of wild assumptions without a single shred of evidence, a theory that no one (except for loony toons like you) believes. Bush & company aren't very capable of managing simple government functions, let alone a vast secret conspiracy to kill people.

And cut the shit with this "so and so" = "so and so"... there are about a dozen people on here who know who me and pgens are in real life, they can tell you we're not the same person and that neither of us look like that Elliot loser. Seriously, it's retarded.



spunky2 Wrote:
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> Hey Bob what does "OP" stand for?
>
> TheMeeper and pgens= Elliot
> plus numerous other
> names, to many to name
> here and now.
>
> An asteroid or space shuttle were not used to
> terrorize our country into a war. Nor did we
> spend billions to ensure our future safety through
> the creation of, DHS,another government
> agency,only to find it's riddled with holes even
> now.
>
> You better watch it some uneducated rednecks that
> run around in here may start calling ya elitist,
> yank.

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> Well that's a theory that makes a whole lot of
> wild assumptions without a single shred of
> evidence, a theory that no one (except for loony
> toons like you) believes. Bush & company aren't
> very capable of managing simple government
> functions, let alone a vast secret conspiracy to
> kill people.
>
> And cut the shit with this "so and so" = "so and
> so"... there are about a dozen people on here who
> know who me and pgens are in real life, they can
> tell you we're not the same person and that
> neither of us look like that Elliot loser.
> Seriously, it's retarded.
>
>
>
> spunky2 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Hey Bob what does "OP" stand for?
> >
> > TheMeeper and pgens= Elliot
> > plus numerous other
> > names, to many to name
> > here and now.
> >
> > An asteroid or space shuttle were not used to
> > terrorize our country into a war. Nor did we
> > spend billions to ensure our future safety
> through
> > the creation of, DHS,another government
> > agency,only to find it's riddled with holes
> even
> > now.
> >
> > You better watch it some uneducated rednecks
> that
> > run around in here may start calling ya
> elitist,
> > yank.


OK, then what are you doing posting here at 6:28am if you aren't Elliot, of Elliot in the AM on 101FM, who talks way to much, but I like Flounders' mash-ups?
In fact if it weren't for the numerous alter-egos you've created with-in this site for yourself and their constant chattering, it would cease to exist.

Up to this point Bush has gotten his way with almost everything. Now we have seen first hand his total disregard for the American people and his lack of insight or understanding of the crisis. The evidence is there staring us all in the face, it's no theory, that's why the people are so angry.

spunky2 Wrote:
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> Hey Bob what does "OP" stand for?
>
> TheMeeper and pgens= Elliot
> plus numerous other
> names, to many to name
> here and now.
>
> An asteroid or space shuttle were not used to
> terrorize our country into a war. Nor did we
> spend billions to ensure our future safety through
> the creation of, DHS,another government
> agency,only to find it's riddled with holes even
> now.
>
> You better watch it some uneducated rednecks that
> run around in here may start calling ya elitist,
> yank.


OP stands for "Original Poster". That means you.

Dude, I was going to give you the benefit of the doubt, to consider maybe you aren't just a paranoid idiot who believes the world is out to get him, but your subsequent posts have proved my openness to your claims to be entirely wrong.

For instance, you claim that "they" have told your family not to talk to you. Don't you think there's at least one person in your family who would disobey that? In fact, wouldn't the majority of your family speak to you about why some law enforcement or intelligence types where hassling them about you? When my Mom applied for a TS/SCI clearance back in the 80's when she applied for a secretary job at the CIA, they sent people to talk to our neighbors. They told them they would be violating national security laws if they told her that they had questioned them, but just about every one of them mentioned it at some point, in some manner.

I've been under local police surveillance before, after renting my basement to a guy who had just gotten out of ffx cnty jail and he kept telling his probation officer that there were known drug dealers in the house (the ones he kept inviting over every night until I evicted him). I even had to deal with the cop from Langley High School looking for a truant 15 year old girl who that dirtbag was screwing (the actual reason I evicted him, that's some evil shit, a 24 year old screwing a 15 year old, even though her drunk parents knew he was dating her, it still pissed me off.)

I was followed for about a week, and the cops used to park down the street, and I even saw a guy "walking his dog" that I didn't recognize as any of my neighbors.

My eviction action, and talking to the police when they came looking for the 15 year old girl stopped it all. Obviously it helped that the guy was out of jail and on probation for credit card fraud and a few drug charges, so the cops believed me when I told them I didn't know that I was renting my basement out to a dirtbag until it was too late, and that I was taking action to remove him as soon as it became clear he was a criminal. Most cops are not idiots. If you talk to them in a professional, respectful manner, they can be quite reasonable and understanding. They aren't dumb.

I'm guessing you just do too much crystal meth and weed to function in the real world, and are paranoid and maybe a bit schizophrenic.

I hate to encourage people, but if you really think you're being followed, drive 25 to 30 mph over the speed limit and swerve around traffic, changing lanes often. If you really are being followed, you probably won't be pulled over, and if you do get pulled over, by the time the cop comes back from writing up your ticket, he's going to just let you go because the CIA has radioed him to tell him to let you go. But it is very hard to not stand out if you are following someone going 30 mph over the speed limit. You'll notice anyone else driving as crazy as you are.

You can also use a stud sensor to scan your walls for super secret cameras and listening devices. If you still aren't sure, just leave your microwave running all the time, it will interfere with most surveillance devices because they use the same frequency.


Dude, if you actually believe that "Elliot in the morning" is posting on FFU, you need some sort of medication.

Bob Wrote:
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> spunky2 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Hey Bob what does "OP" stand for?
> >
> > TheMeeper and pgens= Elliot
> > plus numerous other
> > names, to many to name
> > here and now.
> >
> > An asteroid or space shuttle were not used to
> > terrorize our country into a war. Nor did we
> > spend billions to ensure our future safety
> through
> > the creation of, DHS,another government
> > agency,only to find it's riddled with holes
> even
> > now.
> >
> > You better watch it some uneducated rednecks
> that
> > run around in here may start calling ya
> elitist,
> > yank.
>
>
> OP stands for "Original Poster". That means you.
>
> Dude, I was going to give you the benefit of the
> doubt, to consider maybe you aren't just a
> paranoid idiot who believes the world is out to
> get him, but your subsequent posts have proved my
> openness to your claims to be entirely wrong.
>
By subsequent posts, please give examples, because it's easy to just make up stuff. This is my life, as sad as it is at the present and I am not a paranoid idiot. There's so much I haven't gone into because it's personal, but I have proof. Proof to prove I am not paranoid and not an idiot. Well, you can see the posts in the Bail-out threads to prove I'm not an idiot. Although I am in this Forum doesn't say alot, but I'm at my wit's end. I'm a Carolina graduate.

> For instance, you claim that "they" have told your
> family not to talk to you. Don't you think
> there's at least one person in your family who
> would disobey that? In fact, wouldn't the
> majority of your family speak to you about why
> some law enforcement or intelligence types where
> hassling them about you? When my Mom applied for
> a TS/SCI clearance back in the 80's when she
> applied for a secretary job at the CIA, they sent
> people to talk to our neighbors. They told them
> they would be violating national security laws if
> they told her that they had questioned them, but
> just about every one of them mentioned it at some
> point, in some manner.

Most of my family is deceased, with the exception of an aunt or uncle or 2. A friend suggested I hire a PI, after he recanted a story. He was the XO of my ex-spouse for a time and told me amoung other things that he would make a contest out of who could get the best looking waitress at a restaurant to bed, when they went on military exercises. He was told to recant this along with alot of other stories, as well as my friends, who were being told I was having sex on the first date. Of course I wasn't, and it shouldn't be anyone's business. When I asked how they came by this infomation, I was told not to call them again. This was a pattern I went through with my family and friends, I could tell they were afraid. I know how security clearances work I had a TS clearance when I worked at Edgewood at Aberdeen, MD. One uncle raped me when I was a child and I have discovered he has been claiming I am crazy along with my ex-spouse, and the only thing they have in common is me. My ex-spouse couldn't stand him before because he was gay. My ex is a disgnosed sociopath and he has a high level government job, after 30 years in the military. His nickname, "The Teflon Man".

Another uncle laughed about the fact that I was raped and made fun of the fact, until I reminded him that he asked me to get in the shower with him once when he was drunk and while in front of Ken Hendricks, while at my uncle's place at the beach. That shut him up good. What's odd though is that Mr. Hendricks died right before Christmas of last year, fell through the roof of his own house. Roofs were his specialty. Now they (aunt & uncle) swear they never knew the man. This is the type of family I have left, the ones who are deceased, my mama & daddy were angels on earth.

Another friend, who works for a NASDAQ firm, said he had to much to lose to continue talking to me.

Believe me I couldn't make this crap up, nor would I want to.

I realize that someone has labeled me "CRAZY", for some reason or purpose, although I most certainly am not. I know this because some people I know who work with some of the top agencies, NSA, Secret Service, DHS, etc. have told me. I just need to know who started this witch hunt.


> I've been under local police surveillance before,
> after renting my basement to a guy who had just
> gotten out of ffx cnty jail and he kept telling
> his probation officer that there were known drug
> dealers in the house (the ones he kept inviting
> over every night until I evicted him). I even had
> to deal with the cop from Langley High School
> looking for a truant 15 year old girl who that
> dirtbag was screwing (the actual reason I evicted
> him, that's some evil shit, a 24 year old screwing
> a 15 year old, even though her drunk parents knew
> he was dating her, it still pissed me off.)
>
He should have gone to jail for statutary rape, the parents to for negligence.

> I was followed for about a week, and the cops used
> to park down the street, and I even saw a guy
> "walking his dog" that I didn't recognize as any
> of my neighbors.
>
> My eviction action, and talking to the police when
> they came looking for the 15 year old girl stopped
> it all. Obviously it helped that the guy was out
> of jail and on probation for credit card fraud and
> a few drug charges, so the cops believed me when I
> told them I didn't know that I was renting my
> basement out to a dirtbag until it was too late,
> and that I was taking action to remove him as soon
> as it became clear he was a criminal. Most cops
> are not idiots. If you talk to them in a
> professional, respectful manner, they can be quite
> reasonable and understanding. They aren't dumb.
>
I know that, I respect the police. I have no criminal record and have never been charged with anything and that's the way I want to keep it.


> I'm guessing you just do too much crystal meth and
> weed to function in the real world, and are
> paranoid and maybe a bit schizophrenic.

I don't do crystal meth, that's for idiots and those who don't care to have a brain. Weed is illegal and shouldn't be. It is great for depression and headaches. Regardless you will believe what you want, and nothing will change that. It just seems silly how quickly people will believe the worse, almost like they want to. If I did meth, it would show on me, you can't hide chronic meth use, it's sad. I know where that rumor got started.

You see if you weren't Elliot you wouldn't jump to these conclusions. You don't know me and you didn't just pull this out of the air, you were fed. Who's been talking to you? If you aren't Elliot why would you care if I think Elliot is posting here on FFU, or not? If you are so convinced he is not Elliot, then you must be him. Since you aren't a doctor you aren't in the position to recommend medicine to anyone, that means you.

I see a counselor and I am totally sane, which is what makes all of this so insane. A neighbor moved out this summer, but before she left she said the neighbors around me were told I was crazy and not to help me in anyway. She wouldn't tell me who told her this. I have proof of the conversation, plus so much more, because I have known for some time that I was being played with, in an effort to make me look crazy. Just explaining it sounds crazy, because it is so complex and covers alot of time.

Someone by the name of "Frankz" posted something on another thread that made me realize they think they know me. Do you know anything about that? I doubt you would admit it if you did.

To many coincidences though within this site, wouldn't you say? Someone told me once that when things start going by the numbers look for someone's hand in it. That person was a GYN Doctor.

Last time I went to Walter Reed in March of this year, I was treated as dangerous. The GYN clinic was empty, which never happens. A security guard in the stat room. My doctor asked me if I was behaving myself, I thought he was joking, so I said you can't make history being well-behaved. As I walked to my car 2 other women were being escorted to their cars by a security guard and I heard them say, "She doesn't look dangerous!" One said, "She's pretty."

The very next day I had a Hispanic plumber come to my house. He told me, "I heard you are dangerous and you want to make history." He wouldn't tell me where he heard this, but he took pleasure in telling me, because I had requested no Hispanics to this plumbing company and he showed up anyway. He had been to my house before and I didn't like how he interacted with me then. This is crazy, I am the less dangerous person in the world. When I called DOD, I was told they act on all tips. I suspect an illegal who has been robbing me, for possibly saying something stupid. My ex-spouse did report me as a terrorist, when I discovered he was engaged while still married, and I don't think he reported the last part. What's upsetting is that nothing is being done about my break-ins, but an illegal without any proof can cause me such grieve, one who along with his girlfriend broke into my home repeatedly.

I have been told in order to clear this up I will need to spend alot of money on PIs and attornies, when those who damaged my name did so with ease and assistance by our government and with no proof. This hardly seems fair, right, or American.

>
> I hate to encourage people, but if you really
> think you're being followed, drive 25 to 30 mph
> over the speed limit and swerve around traffic,
> changing lanes often. If you really are being
> followed, you probably won't be pulled over, and
> if you do get pulled over, by the time the cop
> comes back from writing up your ticket, he's going
> to just let you go because the CIA has radioed him
> to tell him to let you go. But it is very hard to
> not stand out if you are following someone going
> 30 mph over the speed limit. You'll notice anyone
> else driving as crazy as you are.
>
Did it and did.
Thank you.

> You can also use a stud sensor to scan your walls
> for super secret cameras and listening devices.
> If you still aren't sure, just leave your
> microwave running all the time, it will interfere
> with most surveillance devices because they use
> the same frequency.
>
I am not sure if you are playing with me or not, but I have known for sometime I have a listening device in a light fixture an illegal put up for me. Because I called them animals after I was robbed and now it's like they all know I called them animals. It gets worse.

I confronted the illegal from Peru, who's a mutual friend of my ex, he said if you knew I put it in, why didn't you take it out. I need a sweep.
My house has been broken into so many times I quit counting, I am being terrorized, each break-in feels like a rape. I know I can't report them all because I would look crazy.

If I take another job and lose it for some stupid reason, like my 3 previous ones, I will look unstable and I am not. But this is the pattern that's developing, like it or not.

I am being railroaded. I am being deprived the ability to make a living and the pursuit of happiness. My civil rights have been stepped all over and you haven't heard it all Elliot.



>
> Dude, if you actually believe that "Elliot in the
> morning" is posting on FFU, you need some sort of
> medication.

Atta was there. The year before when I went to this same party, they had it every year at the same place, I was surprised when I was talking to this Korean. I asked him what he did, and without hesitating he said, "I'm a spy".



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/01/2008 06:11AM by spunky2.

spunky2 Wrote:
>>> OK, then what are you doing posting here at 6:28am if you aren't Elliot,


Ummm, it's this thing I do on weekdays, it's called "getting up for work". But since you're unemployed I'm guessing the concept of having a reason for getting out of bed everyday is something hard for you to understand. I'm not Elliot and I don't post under any other names here- but since you're sort of mentally ill, I can see how you'd arrive at that conclusion.

BTW- Elliot sucks. I've only ever heard the show once or twice, and that was more than enough.

Dude, if you actually believe that "Elliot in the
> morning" is posting on FFU, you need some sort of
> medication.

Meeper, you must be blind to overlook this gem. Why would someone who supposedly doesn't know him take a stand like this? Makes no sense.

It makes less sense that you would chime in now to defend Bob, what's it to you? Unless of course as I have said before that you are Elliot, along with Bob, and so many more.

I think spunky2 is finally catching on. We are all one person posting as many. Aside from spunky2 there is only one other user on this forum.

spunky2 Wrote:
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> >
> By subsequent posts, please give examples, because
> it's easy to just make up stuff. This is my life,
> as sad as it is at the present and I am not a
> paranoid idiot. There's so much I haven't gone
> into because it's personal, but I have proof.
> Proof to prove I am not paranoid and not an idiot.
> Well, you can see the posts in the Bail-out
> threads to prove I'm not an idiot. Although I am
> in this Forum doesn't say alot, but I'm at my
> wit's end. I'm a Carolina graduate.


I gave an example, the "for instance, you claim "they" have told your family not to talk to you." claim.

Also, your train of thought is all over the place. "althouth I am in this FOrum doesn't say a lot, but I'm at my wit's end. I"m a Carolina graduate."



>
> > For instance, you claim that "they" have told
> your
> > family not to talk to you. Don't you think
> > there's at least one person in your family who
>

> MD. One uncle raped me when I was a child and I
> have discovered he has been claiming I am crazy
> along with my ex-spouse, and the only thing they
> have in common is me. My ex-spouse couldn't stand
> him before because he was gay. My ex is a
> disgnosed sociopath and he has a high level
> government job, after 30 years in the military.
> His nickname, "The Teflon Man".
>
> Another uncle laughed about the fact that I was
> raped and made fun of the fact, until I reminded
> him that he asked me to get in the shower with him
> once when he was drunk and while in front of Ken
> Hendricks, while at my uncle's place at the beach.
> That shut him up good. What's odd though is that
> Mr. Hendricks died right before Christmas of last
> year, fell through the roof of his own house.
> Roofs were his specialty. Now they (aunt & uncle)
> swear they never knew the man. This is the type of
> family I have left, the ones who are deceased, my
> mama & daddy were angels on earth.
>
> Another friend, who works for a NASDAQ firm, said
> he had to much to lose to continue talking to me.
>
> Believe me I couldn't make this crap up, nor would
> I want to.
>
> I realize that someone has labeled me "CRAZY", for
> some reason or purpose, although I most certainly
> am not. I know this because some people I know
> who work with some of the top agencies, NSA,
> Secret Service, DHS, etc. have told me. I just
> need to know who started this witch hunt.
>

With all the trauma in your life that you've described, I think you know who is labeling you crazy. Obviously if someone sexually abused you, their motivation is one thing. Other people have a different motivation, and it might be that they really do believe you are crazy, either because you act so because you are feeding into your uncle's accusations, or for some other reason. Maybe they are buying into your uncle's claims.

This sounds more like you are feeding into and off of some twisted family dynamic. Obviously it is affecting you deeply on an emotional and pyschological level.


> >
> He should have gone to jail for statutary rape,
> the parents to for negligence.


Agreed. I made my statements to the police. I know the guy fled to Florida for a while, and eventually I heard that he was in Arlington County jail for something a few years later, and would be transferred to Fairfax for other charges once he served his sentence, so hopefully statutory rape was one of those things. Who knows.


>
> I don't do crystal meth, that's for idiots and
> those who don't care to have a brain. Weed is
> illegal and shouldn't be. It is great for
> depression and headaches. Regardless you will
> believe what you want, and nothing will change
> that. It just seems silly how quickly people will
> believe the worse, almost like they want to. If I
> did meth, it would show on me, you can't hide
> chronic meth use, it's sad. I know where that
> rumor got started.

I apologize for accusing you of using crystal meth.

I do try to keep an open mind. I know that there are examples of where elements within our own government have done some shady things. But a lot of what you describe just doesn't sound like what goes on. I knew Tony Casolaro, sort of, because his German nanny was friends with the German nanny I was dating in 91, and I was at their house when his wife got the phone call notifying them that Danny Casolaro had committed suicide in a hotel in West Virginia. Danny had spent several years investigating the Inislaw PROMIS software/Justice Department case. He received death threats, anonymous letters, and actual attempts to kill him, like driving him off a road, etc, but no mind games. Obviously his family was suspicious when he "suicided himself" in a hotel room a day after he was excited at dinner with his brother Tony's family, because he was going to meet a contact who would tie everything he'd been investigating together so he could finally publish his book.

Your situation just doesn't make sense. If they wanted you quiet because they feared what you knew, you'd have had an accident by now. If they wanted to fuck with you, they could do much more sophisticated things.


>
> You see if you weren't Elliot you wouldn't jump to
> these conclusions. You don't know me and you
> didn't just pull this out of the air, you were
> fed. Who's been talking to you? If you aren't
> Elliot why would you care if I think Elliot is
> posting here on FFU, or not? If you are so
> convinced he is not Elliot, then you must be him.
> Since you aren't a doctor you aren't in the
> position to recommend medicine to anyone, that
> means you.


Again, that just makes you look crazy. I am not Elliot, nor is anyone else who questions the veracity of your claims. I'm not a fed, either. Again, this is classic paranoid schizophrenia. Sorry, that's just how you are coming across.

If some agency or cabal is trying to drive you crazy, they are doing a very good job.


>
> I see a counselor and I am totally sane, which is
> what makes all of this so insane. A neighbor


You should find a new psychotherapist. Did this one give you any form of tests? Brain imaging scans? Blood tests? If his diagnosis of "totally sane" was based solely on talking to you, that's not very credible. People with mental disorders can very easily fool even the best educated psychiatrist by coming across more sane than they really are.

Besides, if the reason you come across as crazy here in this forum is because the government is really screwing with your mind, wouldn't it be best to pull yourself out of the insanity before trying to address the reason the government is doing that to you?



>
> Last time I went to Walter Reed in March of this
> year, I was treated as dangerous. The GYN clinic
> was empty, which never happens. A security guard
> in the stat room. My doctor asked me if I was
> behaving myself, I thought he was joking, so I
> said you can't make history being well-behaved.
> As I walked to my car 2 other women were being
> escorted to their cars by a security guard and I
> heard them say, "She doesn't look dangerous!" One
> said, "She's pretty."


Why would you go to Walter Reed when you can go to NNMC or the clinic at Ft Myer??

I think you let your imagination run wild on that one. I see security guards at lots of hospitals, and especially at Army hospitals.



> > You can also use a stud sensor to scan your
> walls
> > for super secret cameras and listening devices.
>
> > If you still aren't sure, just leave your
> > microwave running all the time, it will
> interfere
> > with most surveillance devices because they use
> > the same frequency.
> >
> I am not sure if you are playing with me or not,
> but I have known for sometime I have a listening
> device in a light fixture an illegal put up for
> me. Because I called them animals after I was


I was playing with you. Same with the driving like a maniac comment.

But if you think a light fixture has a bug in it, replace it. Anyone who knows how to turn off a circuit breaker and can hold a screw driver can do it. You just take off the old fixture, and match the colored wires on the new fixture to the wires in the junction box.


>
> If I take another job and lose it for some stupid
> reason, like my 3 previous ones, I will look
> unstable and I am not. But this is the pattern
> that's developing, like it or not.


That's why you should extricate yourself from your current situation and seek better psychological help. Even if this is being caused by the government, the things you've been saying indicate that you are in some way mentally ill. Address the immediate problem, and then when you work through that, you'll be better able to handle the bigger, overriding causes. There's a place out in Leesburg, called Springwood. Call them, tell them the things you've been posting here on FU, and see what they say. They can't come and get you, so be honest on the phone. If you really fear that they might come and get you, let them know you'd be self-paying, they hate negotiating their prices for people that have to pay out of pocket.



>
> I am being railroaded. I am being deprived the
> ability to make a living and the pursuit of
> happiness. My civil rights have been stepped all
> over and you haven't heard it all Elliot.
>
>

I'm sure Elliot hasn't heard it all. The fact that you think I'm Elliot just leads me to think you should really be addressing the mental health first, before you worry about why they are doing this to you to cause your mental health problems.




>
> Atta was there. The year before when I went to
> this same party, they had it every year at the
> same place, I was surprised when I was talking to
> this Korean. I asked him what he did, and without
> hesitating he said, "I'm a spy".


I've been a "spy" and i've been an "airline pilot" and I've been a "hedge fund manager for a big wall street firm" at parties. It just depends on what I thought would impress the really hot girl I was talking to. But that was when I was in my early 20's and not very sophisticated. Now I don't lie to impress people. The Korean guy probably was just trying to impress you.

pgens Wrote:
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> I think spunky2 is finally catching on. We are
> all one person posting as many. Aside from
> spunky2 there is only one other user on this
> forum.


Actually, the rest of the users on this forum are from a single super computer deep inside the CIA Headquarters, using Artificial Intelligence to make her crazy.

In fact, nobody actually lives in Fairfax County, they are all just computer generated entities designed to make her believe that Atta was at the Navy Yard when he really was at a Flight School in Florida.

Elliot, Bob,or whoever you believe yourself to be today, and I really could care less, you are the CRAZY one.

FACT:
This website has an embracing and sincere reputation? NO

You, Elliot, lack the same.

You are hurt, like a kid and angry, because I have spoken badly about you and your AM show, so you are lashing out, at me. It is so obvious through out this forum, not only me, but others as well have suffered your rage. No one, other then yourself and a few others bother to converse with you because you are totally illogical. Have you ever taken the time to talk to someone in the mental health field?

Since I have arrived to this site I have been kicked out, dumped onto the TOPIX site on the page that describes this site as Nazi driven, with a profile name that included my maiden name and the name of an Indian tribe. Coincidence?

You would say, "YES", and I would have to say what planet are you from?

I had all my PMs within this site dumped, then altered, whatz up with that?

I have barely been here a month. I have been harassed, threathened, and made to feel unwelcome.

Now that I know who's behind it, Elliot, it all makes sense. By the fact that you must advertise now tells me your ratings are taking a dive, like your site here.

For you to make some of the statements you have to me tells me, you've been told things about me. But see you don't have the balls to tell the truth, because you're a pansey, a wannabe. You need to find some bones somewhere and slap one in your back, spineless.

Why would you mention weed and meth? You could have said anything, why those? You know why and so do I. Your arrogance got away with you and you hung yourself on the details, alot like what happens with you in AM. I haven't met anyone who likes you or your show,L7! If I want to hear talking, I listen NPR, it's more ear-worthy, loser.

On the thread where I asked for ways to meet people, you again, I know, suggested I walk my dog on the Vienna trail. What a huge assumption to leap to that I had a dog, go figure. I could've had a cat, no animals at all, so many possible combinations. I realize this fact is a bit weak, but shouldn't be overlooked.

The thread about the guy at Springfield Mall looking up girls skirts, the one with the bug eyes. Check out what FRANKZ response to my post was...GYN. That was deliberate and that was you! You want to tell me what your point was? Oh, never mind I bet no one gets the truth out of you. There's some background here, and you've been fed it, JERK! This GYN Doctor, was kicked out of the Army for being inappriorate and disobeying an order, from what I understand. This issue is not dead. If I were CRAZY, then how and why was a Army Col fired?

Like I said I can prove everything I am saying, and as you can see I have a bit of a memory, unlike you. I don't know how many times I told you I was a woman, but you insisted on referring to me as a man, because you don't like women. There was a time when you regularly degraded them on the air, I haven't noticed you doing that as much as I flip past you onto something better. Why is that?

Somebody slap your hand?

Something got your attention, it was about time. It's terrible anytime you try to benefit from the pain of others, as here, or laugh at the expense of others, especially when you like to control the communication, like here.

Feeling air run up your legs from the exposure?

I could go on, but these were just the facts, I need to chop on your 2 cents worth, or lack there of.

But before I do that, don't be bamboozled into thinking that this is just some game for your enjoyment, and it's all a joke. There are real people, aliens, kids who come into this cyber-world for answers, an escape, hurt, depressed and all needing something. What you give them is not what they need, more hurt, more crushing blows to their egos. Why do you feel the need to tear things down, instead of building up those around you. I would say you have alot of pinned up anger, or you do to much COKE, or whatever your meds are for the day. You are posting on here at all hours of the day and night, so I would guess COKE or Meth. I have known people hooked on both and m'friend you show the signs. You are wrapped to tight and that's not called being creative. Several times I have realized that you, without prior notice, run recorded tapes for your AM airing, several AM in a row, or you're late. Not professional, not consistent, trademarks of an addict though. The, I don't give a WORD attitude, it's written all over you.

My train of thought is right on, as evidenced here. In the previous post I made the mistake of stooping down to your level, by attempting to disprove your premise. My mama always said, "You can't talk to a drunk or an idiot." My mistake was coming onto this site in the first place and try to carry on an intelligent dialogue with those in my community I thought might like to know the TRUTH, for a change. Not what people like you deny.

There's a reason all this crap is and has been happening to me. It's because, as I see here, it can't be easily explained, by attempting to, makes it difficult to believe and it sounds CRAZY. So, like a neighbor told me, "I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't tell." I wonder how many others who knew to much went to the wayside like they expect me too, or to some nuthouse? I have been told by a friend not to talk to the military, keep a low profile and stay off the computer, I hate being told what to do, so this may be my undoing. I suppose I am playing right into their hands. If I shut-up, which is what they want by the way you are harrassing me, no one will know a thing and I could still have my freedom taken away on some trumpeted up charge. I have the freedom to speak out, and I should have the freefom to speak-out without fear of reprisal, I live in America, where our freedoms were fought for by Americans. We may be losing that freedom, amoung so much more. At least I can say I tried to get my story out to those who cared enough to listen.

I've done nothing wrong, except marry the wrong person and survive incest, and I still won't call myself a victim. People did horrible things to me and it continues, but I am not the sick one, I am the surviver and anyone one in this situation should be respected and not be made to feel they are crazy, that in itself is crazy and stupid. This country or world makes it harder on the surviver then the perp, that is CRAZY! TWISTED! This breds pedophiles, this silence, this twisted way of looking at the entire subject. The victim has suffered enough with the incident, it stays with you for life and effects every part of your life, and no one has the right to do this to another, especially children. When we fail as a nation to protect and support those who can't for themselves, we're doomed and well should be! For you to say that as a result of my experience I am some how damaged, insults me. I am not the damaged individual here. For your to imply such shows your total ignorance and disregard for humanity. I am fine, and would be better if those powers that be, would leave me alone. If someone wants you to look CRAZY, they can make it happen. This is personal, I have had threats on my life, and attempts. The 3 men in my life that want me dead or sent away, my Ex-spouse, pedi-uncle and the GYN, and they all have their own individual sick reasons and they are all afraid of what I know about them. They are all totally insane, but you would never know it, which makes them very dangerous. I will not allow myself to be abused ever again. Between them all we are talking fraud, forgery, attempted murder, murder, stealing, and adultry. Then there's the unauthorized discharge of a fireman inside a government building which almost killed a man(my Ex just laughed because he said,"The guy was black and after the particles from the drywall covered him from the discharge,he looked white"), stealing of government arms and explosives and why bother? I'm the target, and no one cares, but me. We're talking about these 3 men, one a retired USMC Col, A doctor of linguistics, and a GYN doctor who openly admits he hates women, and came onto me, from Walter Reed, does that not seem odd? By the way they are also all gay, a coincidence? The GYN Doctor is also married, he lied to me about that, go figure?

Bob said:

With all the trauma in your life that you've described, I think you know who is labeling you crazy. Obviously if someone sexually abused you, their motivation is one thing. Other people have a different motivation, and it might be that they really do believe you are crazy, either because you act so because you are feeding into your uncle's accusations, or for some other reason. Maybe they are buying into your uncle's claims.

This sounds more like you are feeding into and off of some twisted family dynamic. Obviously it is affecting you deeply on an emotional and pyschological level.



People can and will believe what they want, but that doesn't make it so. My last boss said I had crazy eyes, so I must be crazy...now how judgmental and CRAZY is that. I had never been told such craziness in my life until I divorced my Ex, this has become a pattern for a reason, I am being terrorized, abused and it's like a nightmare. I had always been told I had pretty eyes, I have my mama's eyes. The things I have been told would make you or anyone wonder, who's really crazy here? The fact that I am discussing this is crazy, and it begins to take on a life of it's own.

Clearly it's not what I have suffered in the past that affects me deeply, that's nothing compared to the years now of constant stress, harassment and denial of my basic civil rights. This is worth fighting for and I don't think I'm alone in such a struggle. I know for a fact my house was broken into last year by 2 of the 3 JERKS, along with some suits. No warrant no nothing and my belongings were removed. I came from a good wholesome family, with good morals and beliefs and if it weren't for God, I know I would be dead or nuts by now, and I'm not.


Bob says:
Again, that just makes you look crazy. I am not Elliot, nor is anyone else who questions the veracity of your claims. I'm not a fed, either. Again, this is classic paranoid schizophrenia. Sorry, that's just how you are coming across.


I am not a paranoid schizophrenia, and I am not coming across that way unless you want to read it that way, if that's the case then that's ignorance on your part again. You are trying to pinhole me into a label, and I don't fit. You started by saying at first that, "my train of thought is all over the place", which is a symtom of such a disease. You are truly evil to the core to say such a thing when you don't know what the hell you are talking about. You could technically say such a thing about anyone at some point in time, but I follow a train of thought, and have shown it here and through out my posts. If I didn't have proof to support most of my accusations then I would agree, paranoia would be a possiblity, but it's not. I saw Atta, that's a fact, and no paranoia. I have shared this experience with alot of people and if I am labeled as CRAZY, then that would put an end to the rumor once and for all and anything else I know and who benefits? I am a shy person I don't and didn't want this, but I felt it was my civic duty to tell what I knew, despite the horrible pain. But then again pain is what I know, but no more.

Bob says:
You should find a new psychotherapist. Did this one give you any form of tests? Brain imaging scans? Blood tests? If his diagnosis of "totally sane" was based solely on talking to you, that's not very credible. People with mental disorders can very easily fool even the best educated psychiatrist by coming across more sane than they really are.

Here you are saying that talking to someone is not a credible way to disgnosis someone, but yet that's all you are doing and you aren't a Doc and you have the arrogance to the think you are credible. Please get your head out of your ass and actually put some thought into what you write, this is total and insane negligence on your part. I can tell you've never been to college...Elliot, and your ignorance is showing. You are pretending to be something you aren't and never will be...smart. It comes through in your speech and how slow you are on your feet, and everywhere else. This is the epitome of insults and the only reason I choose to respond is for those who might give a WORD. I think you actually plagarize most of your educated sounding thoughts, which makes you full of WORD only. You are an imposter, and you talk out of both sides of your mouth...you are CRAZY!


Bob says:
Besides, if the reason you come across as crazy here in this forum is because the government is really screwing with your mind, wouldn't it be best to pull yourself out of the insanity before trying to address the reason the government is doing that to you?

It sounds crazy no matter what, and I don't give a ratz-ass what you believe or not, bud you have lost credibility here today. Your thoughts are just that...yours only and your multiple alter-egos.

Like it's any of your business, I have follow-up for cancer at Reed, which I've had twice through this ordeal. It's horrible to go through that alone. Frankly, I don't care what you believe anymore. YOU aren't my problem, thank God!

You are obviously a bigger fool then I had imagined, why are you trying so hard to paint me as mental? That makes one ask, whatz it to you? When you try so hard at trying to convince someone of something, there's a motivating factor involved which you haven't disclosed. I wouldn't begin to suggest to someone I don't know, what you attempt here. You would have to have a vested interest to step outside your realm and speak like this, besides being ignorant. How much were you offered to set this up? It's because of what I said in my other thread, which brought this about now. Check out the annual reports, do your homework before you ever speak to anyone like this again. For you to try to kick me when I'm down, or anybody for that fact, is pure evil and it will come back to you, like Karma.

You don't have a clue...the party I was at, like the one Atta attended, was nothing but VIPs. You would never find yourself at a party like that m'friend, now or ever. The others I was with believed him to be authentic, since the building was full of like souls, there was no reason to think otherwise.

Your logic is flawed and full of discrepancies, alot like you. Please work on your bedside manner, it's non-existant, at the present you aren't fit for human contact.

You're fucked up baby!

spunky2 Wrote:
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>
> Like it's any of your business, I have follow-up
> for cancer at Reed, which I've had twice through
> this ordeal. It's horrible to go through that
> alone. Frankly, I don't care what you believe
> anymore. YOU aren't my problem, thank God!
>

From what I have read, it does not sound like you are all that "alone". Maybe you should embrace those around you, and invite them to share your "ordeal".

EJ and Meade are always looking for friends!

Spunky, enough already. Your credability here is non existent.
With every post, you delve more and more into the twilight zone.
Seek professional help NOW.....



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/02/2008 01:33PM by 496.

Spunky, enough already. Your credability here is non existent.
With every post, you delve more and more into the twilight zone.
Seek professional help NOW.....



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/02/2008 01:34PM by 496.

Let me get this straight. The U.S. government planned 9/11, so they had Atta wear a Navy uniform to a big party in DC a year before the attack? The government was smart enough to plan the attack and keep it quiet for seven years, but couldn't stop Atta from painting the town red for one night?

"spunky2", I strongly suggest that you cease this activity immediately, if not sooner. The fact that we are only monitoring you and have not taken you out of circulation should indicate our willingness to let you have a normal life, provided you stop speaking of things that should not be spoken of. If you would just cooperate, I'm sure you will find yourself able to have a happy, prosperous future.

For the rest of you, the user you refer to as "spunky2" most assuredly did NOT see Mahammad Atta at a military function. It was actually a man named Joe Horndoffer, who is really, really sick of people telling him he looks just like Mahammad Atta. Mr. Horndoffer is good with children, volunteers at an animal shelter every other weekend, and has a really warm face that lights up a room when he smiles.

We're hot on your trail spunky2. Agent Cody Banks will find you...

Hey folks. Couple of thoughts here.

Unlike Vince, who is certifiably loony and can't string two coherent posts together other then something negative, spunky2 may actually be one of two things:

1. someone who legitimately needs help and is looking to an unconventional place for an answer

2. someone who legitimately needs help only a therapist can provide.

Her posts seem a bit off base, but if you just want to attack her for falling into bucket #2, then at least lay off the "we're coming to get you posts". If it is someone that needs that kind of help, you don't want to be responsible (even in an anonymous way) for potentially causing further harm. It is one thing to break down and ridicule the points if they are off-base - just on my reading of this thread you might want to go easy on those kind of responses.

I tease Vince because he is an idiot. spunky2 posts some odd stuff at times, and certainly if you want to call her a loon or an idiot here (it is an open forum) then don't let me stop you. My judgment on this one is, if you don't have anything good to say, just ignore the posts.

Spunky2, no offense intended.

Elliot or Registered Voter:

I pointed out your responsibility in my post, copycat. If you weren't Elliot why would you care, or pretend to take an interest in monitoring this forum?


You are truly a sad individual.

TheMeeper, SRE, 496, WashingToneLocian, Agent Cody Banks, SA Smith= Elliot,

along with so many more to numerous to delve into now.

But what happened to Bob? Did he lose face, or credibility?

It seems from reading past threads no one with intelligence will volley verbally because basic logic is missing and it seems anger, frustration and resentment is what's yielded. I suppose this is where you get your reputation for being a Bully Nazi site, do you call that credibility?

Slap yourself! Do it again...again...and again!


Consider yourself now bitch slapped.....and I'm now through with you!

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> Hey folks. Couple of thoughts here.
>
> Unlike Vince, who is certifiably loony and can't
> string two coherent posts together other then
> something negative, spunky2 may actually be one of
> two things:
>
> 1. someone who legitimately needs help and is
> looking to an unconventional place for an answer
>
> 2. someone who legitimately needs help only a
> therapist can provide.
>
> Her posts seem a bit off base, but if you just
> want to attack her for falling into bucket #2,
> then at least lay off the "we're coming to get you
> posts". If it is someone that needs that kind of
> help, you don't want to be responsible (even in an
> anonymous way) for potentially causing further
> harm. It is one thing to break down and ridicule
> the points if they are off-base - just on my
> reading of this thread you might want to go easy
> on those kind of responses.
>
> I tease Vince because he is an idiot. spunky2
> posts some odd stuff at times, and certainly if
> you want to call her a loon or an idiot here (it
> is an open forum) then don't let me stop you. My
> judgment on this one is, if you don't have
> anything good to say, just ignore the posts.
>
> Spunky2, no offense intended.


I agree. I thought I was being sincere in my last post, but obviously spunky2 thinks that I'm Elliot and would not read my comments without being defensive and assuming I was attacking her.

I know of people who have information about shady activities by elements of the government and I know of crazy people who build up these great delusional stories. I can generally tell the difference between the two. She appears to fall into the latter category.

Hell, I believe 9/11 was an inside job, at least on the level of being allowed to occur in order to have a justification for an agenda. I should jump up and down for her claims and rally behind her, except that what she's claiming is something she made up in a state of delusion. There is no other corroboratng evidence to supprt the Atta in the Navy Yard claim, and then the paranoia displayed by believing that everyone who posts a response to her are all really a radio personality who is getting paid by the government, well that is why her claim is suspect.

I tried to tell her that she should seek help with the mental health aspect in order to better be able to work on getting the message out, just in case she really is being truthful and not delusional. But that made me not fit for human contact, apparently.

Look to your left. Now, look to your right.

Both of those people are Elliot.

And yeah, Registered Voter, I bet that John Hinkley guy would have not gone through with it if that seductress Jodi Foster had just kept her mouth shut.

WE'RE COMING TO GET YOU, SPUNKY2! NYEH NYEH NYEH!

Also, as the same person that posted as SA Smith, I can only wish I was Elliot, because that would pay a lot more than my current job.

But then, that's probably something that Elliot would say.

Look at my last post at 9:03, where I just happen to mention not hearing from Bob.

Then surprise...at 9:53, he just happens to show up, then 5 mins later Chuckles, what a huge coincidence, no, it's because this thread is so popular. I don't think so.

Bob, don't flatter yourself you were insulting just like all your other posts under other names...Elliot.

You contradicted yourself in your 2nd and last paragragh, which tells me that you are that stupid radio DJ Elliot, along with the many other alias names I have pointed out. Which by the way I never claimed to be everyone, you did, that's generalizing, Elliot does that most of the time. I listened to him enough when my kids were younger and now it's like killing bugs, by picking up his speech patterns, stupity and his angry under/overtones in this forum.

No, let's look at the deliberate attempts to target me amoung all the threads I have posted or created with harassment and bullying, that has Elliot written all over it. This energy is fueled and motivated by anger and it's so obvious.

You seem to function in a constant state of delusion... oh, I forgot, you're a functioning addict.

I addressed what Bob(Elliot) had to say, I noticed you couldn't do the same and you won't. I am authentic, you are a fraud. I am telling the truth, you are hopeless.

You stick out ELLIOT, like a diamond in a goat's ASS!!!!!!!!!!!

So what we have here is a person that believes in a massive government conspiracy regarding the 9/11 attacks, and yet believes that someone pretending to be a government agent is actually a morning DJ?

This is classic paranoid delusion. There is nothing that anyone could do to demonstrate that they are not Elliot. Of course, since this is an anonymous board, it is possible, though unlikely, that Elliot does post on here. However, I believe that the simplest explanation is the correct one. Why would a man who has a job like his, along with the esteem and noteriety he gets from it, waste so much of their time attacking someone on a message board, instead of on the air (where it would do even more damage)?

I could take a picture of myself writing this post, and it would still not be enough to convince this person that he/she is wrong. Even in the face of 100% proof, it would be spun that I was paid to do this by Elliot or am in league with him, furthering the absurd notion that this public figure will go to unreasonable lengths to hassle someone on the interwebs.

Either spunky2 is a troll or is mentally ill. In both cases, the best solution is to recommend professional help (done a couple times), and then ignore. Trolls will get bored without attention, and the mentally ill will continue to believe that any statement that disagrees with them is perpetuated by, of all people, Elliot in the Morning.

Case closed.

>>paranoid delusion


You forgot about the part where people have been repeatedly breaking into her house for some unfathomable purpose. There's nothing paranoid about that.

Is there any proof of this, other than the mention of it in posts that also say she's an incest survivor, had cancer twice, literary quotes are death threats, is being hounded by the government, every illegal immigrant that works for her knows who she is, she was in the Marines for 27 years, that everyone posting on here is Elliot, and every other far out thing that I don't have the patience to sift through the thread for?

Honestly, I am WAYYYY too verbose to be anyone but myself thanks. I only stuck my nose in here (and you will see that mostly I post in the political "off topic" discussions) because of the oddity of the posts.

Strangely enough, there ARE more than only 2 people that post on these forums :) Okay, maybe 3 but I am stretching that a bit... And than is only because Vince is so conflicted you could never be sure...

Apologies Vince, another gratuitous swipe, I know :)

spunky2 Wrote:
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> Look at my last post at 9:03, where I just happen
> to mention not hearing from Bob.
>
> Then surprise...at 9:53, he just happens to show
> up, then 5 mins later Chuckles, what a huge
> coincidence, no, it's because this thread is so
> popular. I don't think so.


spunky2, you might have noticed how this forum software works. Anytime someone posts a comment to a thread, it goes to the top of the forum list.

The reason I posted FIFTY MINUTES after you posted was because as I sit and watch TV, I occassionaly reload the FU forum list to see what threads that I'm watching have had a recent comment.

I'm sorry that you think I am attacking you. I'm not. Honestly, I'm trying to tell you that the only way to be taken seriously is to not sound crazy. I have not seen one comment on this site from someone who is taking you seriously, so you should reach the conclusion that apparently you are coming across as crazy.

Either learn to temper what you say so that it doesn't APPEAR crazy, or think deep and hard about whether you might actually be crazy. Like I've been trying to say, don't be defensive, I'm not trying to belittle you, if you turn out to have some sort of mental health problem, let's assume the government agencies that want to silence you have caused it, you didn't. Address it, and then you'll be better able to get your message across without having people call you crazy.

You aren't going to accomplish anything using your current methods. Maybe you need to find a new tack.

Sigmund Fraud Wrote:
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> So what we have here is a person that believes in
> a massive government conspiracy regarding the 9/11
> attacks, and yet believes that someone pretending
> to be a government agent is actually a morning
> DJ?
>

I never said Elliot was a government agent, you are putting words in my mouth as you have constantly been accused of within this forum when your statements have come under attack. Generalizing is your tendency, on this forum and on the radio.
You have attacked me through out your forum here and one would have to ask why?

> This is classic paranoid delusion. There is
> nothing that anyone could do to demonstrate that
> they are not Elliot. Of course, since this is an
> anonymous board, it is possible, though unlikely,
> that Elliot does post on here. However, I believe
> that the simplest explanation is the correct one.
> Why would a man who has a job like his, along with
> the esteem and noteriety he gets from it, waste so
> much of their time attacking someone on a message
> board, instead of on the air (where it would do
> even more damage)?

I don't listen to you on the radio anymore so I don't know if you are or not, I wouldn't put it past you. How could you attack someone on the radio who hasn't made themself avilable by calling in? Your anger is showing through again Elliot, I know that's what you want, ain't gon'in happen m'friend. There like here you want to take control of everything to twist it to your advantage, which by the way comes across to your audience.

The fact that you mentoned ESTEEM and NOTERIETY that HE gets, gives it away, Elliot, your speaking about yourself. Who else would care so much about giving you props, but you? What a sick puppy.

The fact that you are wasting so much of your time under so many different names tells me what a loser you are and how pitiful your AM segment has become.

> I could take a picture of myself writing this
> post, and it would still not be enough to convince
> this person that he/she is wrong. Even in the
> face of 100% proof, it would be spun that I was
> paid to do this by Elliot or am in league with
> him, furthering the absurd notion that this public
> figure will go to unreasonable lengths to hassle
> someone on the interwebs.

I don't believe so many would gang up on one, but I do believe one would appear as many to gang up on one. Plus there are to many common factors that lead to one person.

>
> Either spunky2 is a troll or is mentally ill. In
> both cases, the best solution is to recommend
> professional help (done a couple times), and then
> ignore. Trolls will get bored without attention,
> and the mentally ill will continue to believe that
> any statement that disagrees with them is
> perpetuated by, of all people, Elliot in the
> Morning.

You see you, Elliot, Bob and several others are bent on me being mental, and it doesn't fit. These are duances trying to put a round peg into a square hole and say it fits. Like the government and those who aren't receptive to the truth, you would rather write them off as crazy, when they aren't and continue down your street of stupidity to no where, no to worse places then we've been. What's so bad is that you are from Canada and you want to tell me I am crazy here in my country, why? You are a total WIMP, no a total stupid WIMP.

You are perpetrating what you have been told to do. I don't see this type of negative response to any other radical thread on this forum, proof that this is a isolated case and why? Not just this thread but everything I start or post to?
I see right though you and it's a UGLY picture.


> Case closed.

Does that mean you will shi=ut-up?

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> Honestly, I am WAYYYY too verbose to be anyone but
> myself thanks. I only stuck my nose in here (and
> you will see that mostly I post in the political
> "off topic" discussions) because of the oddity of
> the posts.
>
> Strangely enough, there ARE more than only 2
> people that post on these forums :) Okay, maybe 3
> but I am stretching that a bit... And than is only
> because Vince is so conflicted you could never be
> sure...
>
> Apologies Vince, another gratuitous swipe, I know
> :)


Gratuitous is a word that Elliot uses regularly, how odd that it would just happen to show up here :))

Bob Wrote:
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> spunky2 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Look at my last post at 9:03, where I just
> happen
> > to mention not hearing from Bob.
> >
> > Then surprise...at 9:53, he just happens to
> show
> > up, then 5 mins later Chuckles, what a huge
> > coincidence, no, it's because this thread is so
> > popular. I don't think so.
>
>
> spunky2, you might have noticed how this forum
> software works. Anytime someone posts a comment
> to a thread, it goes to the top of the forum
> list.
>
> The reason I posted FIFTY MINUTES after you posted
> was because as I sit and watch TV, I occassionaly
> reload the FU forum list to see what threads that
> I'm watching have had a recent comment.
>
The only reason someone would do something as obsessive as you mention is if they had a vested interest in the site, which you do Elliot. This is like your baby, along with all your mulitiple aliass'. What a sicko, even more so the way you are attacking me. Just remember what you give, comes back to you...Karma is nothing to mess around with, I would hate to be in your shoes.


> I'm sorry that you think I am attacking you. I'm
> not. Honestly, I'm trying to tell you that the
> only way to be taken seriously is to not sound
> crazy. I have not seen one comment on this site
> from someone who is taking you seriously, so you
> should reach the conclusion that apparently you
> are coming across as crazy.

Well, I have, so I guess you still can't read. For you to confidently say such a thing tells me also that you post the majority of the posts on this site. Especially, if you live with the site in your face all the time, looking at the next post with a hawkeye prepared to pounce. I would call that OCD or insane or overly aggressive attempt to support a failing site with whatever means possible.

>
> Either learn to temper what you say so that it
> doesn't APPEAR crazy, or think deep and hard about
> whether you might actually be crazy. Like I've
> been trying to say, don't be defensive, I'm not
> trying to belittle you, if you turn out to have
> some sort of mental health problem, let's assume
> the government agencies that want to silence you
> have caused it, you didn't. Address it, and then
> you'll be better able to get your message across
> without having people call you crazy.
>

You are telling me to TEMPER what I say...PLEASE!
I watched everything I said all my life and for what and why? People who keep their mouth shut just see things get worse not better.

It's a fact that victims of rape are angry, no wonder.

A woman going through menopause can appear crazy, but they're not. If it was a man's desease there's no doubt we would have a cure already. Think about it if you felt as if you were in an oven half the time and a freezer the other half, would just that in itself make you a bit uncomfortable, not to mention the other crap that comes with it all.

But far be it for me to complain, I'm handling it, I am WOMAN!

CRAZY I am not, I have seen CRAZY, I have known CRAZY, I have lived with CRAZY!

> You aren't going to accomplish anything using your
> current methods. Maybe you need to find a new
> tack.

THUMB?

Maybe you should play some JONNY LANG, he rocks, you roll.:)

spunky2, see how spooky it is? I'm posting a comment at 3:17, and you posted a comment at 2:51.

I was busy on Digg.com, and I went back to the tab that I have FU loaded on, and I reloaded it and saw this thread rise to the top. So I clicked on it.


Spunky2, you just accused Sigmund Fraud and Registered Voter as being Elliot, like you believe I am.

You have got to either just spin right off this planet, or you have to check yourself before you wreck yourself.

Please, when you wake up sober tomorrow, and after you've had a cup of coffee and a few glasses of orange juice and maybe some vitamins, and you are not imbalanced, read my comments. I'm only trying to help you. I think you should temper you paranoia, think about what method you can use to reach people, because this isn't the answer. You are only setting yourself up to be dismissed, using your current methods.

When you keep calling anyone who comments about your comments "elliot" you automatically sound paranoid and crazy.

Can't you understand that I'm not trying to call you crazy, I'm trying to tell you that YOU are making everyone else think that you're crazy. If you were rational and of sound mind, you would listen to me and stop feeding into and supporting them! You'd figure out a better way to discuss these things so that you don't only get a single response of "you're crazy".



Were you an EM? Did you enlist right out of high school? I'm starting to wonder that if you aren't crazy, maybe you just aren't very smart.

Please...Bob... Bob...Bob?

You say you don't want to insult me then you turn around and do the very thing you say you don't want to do...are you mentally challenged? Or just socially?

I will acknowledge you as Bob, if you will give up the labels...deal?

By the way grape juice is the best fix for a hang over, but I don't have that

problem, you?

I am very rational and of sound mind...if I weren't I would be CRAZY by now with what I have experienced...but hasn't happened and ain't go'in to happen, because I said so! Why are you so judgemental?

I understand what you are saying and I appreciate the spirit in which it's sent, but you're a bit rough around the edges. You come off all-knowing and condesending which rubs the wrong way, can you understand that? Considering I have been constantly attacked since coming onto this site no wonder I am a bit leary of any and everyone, especially those who assume they know me.

I went to college right out of high school where I finished with honors as a high achiever with an endless list of awards.

I'm not crazy, stupid, retarded or anything else ugly you care to say.

Please what would you suggest, if you were in my shoes? I am a rational open-minded person.

spunky2 Wrote:
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> Please...Bob... Bob...Bob?
>
> You say you don't want to insult me then you turn
> around and do the very thing you say you don't
> want to do...are you mentally challenged? Or just
> socially?
>
> I will acknowledge you as Bob, if you will give up
> the labels...deal?
>
> By the way grape juice is the best fix for a hang
> over, but I don't have that
>
> problem, you?
>
> I am very rational and of sound mind...if I
> weren't I would be CRAZY by now with what I have
> experienced...but hasn't happened and ain't go'in
> to happen, because I said so! Why are you so
> judgemental?
>
> I understand what you are saying and I appreciate
> the spirit in which it's sent, but you're a bit
> rough around the edges. You come off all-knowing
> and condesending which rubs the wrong way, can you
> understand that? Considering I have been
> constantly attacked since coming onto this site no
> wonder I am a bit leary of any and everyone,
> especially those who assume they know me.
>
> I went to college right out of high school where I
> finished with honors as a high achiever with an
> endless list of awards.
>
> I'm not crazy, stupid, retarded or anything else
> ugly you care to say.
>
> Please what would you suggest, if you were in my
> shoes? I am a rational open-minded person.


What would I suggest?

Only you know what you need to do in order to get beyond whatever issues you have that are causing people to think you are crazy. They aren't thinking your comments are crazy just to be mean, or because they work for some government agency. Your comments have been out there, on the fringe.

Figure out what you need to do in order to not sound fringe or crazy. If that means seeking some private help, or just learning how to describe your observations without scaring people or whatever, that will make your message work without being dismissed.

If you are not crazy, (I'm sorry) then look up "cognitive dissonance" and you'll understand how a lot of the things you say cause people to label you as crazy. Cognitive Dissonance cannot be attacked head on, it only causes people to attack back at you.

What in the world are you doing up all night long?

Who are you, whatz your story?

I have been reading about Tony C., how horribly tragic on so many levels.

CD, my ex-spouse constantly referred to this phrase, but he departmentilized.

Therapist don't care about getting to the truth and sharing it, instead you do a brain dump of what's troubling you and basically they tell you to move past it, bite the bullet. This is what I so want to do, but my life as it is(without going down that road again) doesn't allow that option. It's like beating my head against a brick wall, over and over. Can you understand what I am telling you?
I want normal, as boring as that sounds.

No matter how you package some of what I have said it is hard to swallow because of it's gravity, and I know that, but it's the truth.

My intentions are not to scare people but to open their eyes to the truth. After 9/11 I feel what I am saying couldn't scare them any more then the reality of that dreadful day.

I read your post on McCain dropping out, your being a Rep. and working for Davis isn't motivating you here? I contaced Davis several times in regards to my situation was told there wasn't a thing he could do over and over...until finally I was told to hire an attorney. This regarded the accusations my ex-spouse made of me being a terrorist, alot of help he was...not.

Tell me, why does this site have a reputation of being a bully-nazi site, if posters aren't trying to be mean? I dispute your claim, I have seen nothing but attacks, the kind you would see from a male-dominated testerone overdosed government agency gone crazy.

By the way, people are being told to say I am crazy. I am not doing or behaving in a manner that warrants such a claim.

When do you sleep?

The edit button is missing.

I mistakenly put in departmentalized (don't think it's a word) instead replace with compartmentalized, I should have been sleeping instead.

Yes, Bob you are right about the "Cognitive Dissonance".

Enjoy your weekend! ;)

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Spunky2,

Sorry you are not satisfied with my assertion that I am not Elliot. I am just verbose.

I actually give a shit about people - I have been active on the internet since 1994. I used to play text MUDs (you know what those are?) where I ran into many people who were either depressed or looking for attention in one way or another. You certainly sound like you have some problems you are trying to deal with, so I offered up some advice to others on here to be little more aware of how they speak to people here. Over the years on the net, I can attest to many times people take what you say out of the intention of what you are saying because it is hard to portray the "tone" you are speaking in when using text. Thus my use of :) on occasion to let you know I am smiling when I say things.

But hey, you want to lash out at every person that posts in a thread you have, feel free. No skin off my back. Perhaps that is the ultimate troll posting - put up a thread and anyone that responds either good or bad, you play whack-a-mole with? Whatever :)

Take care.

spunky2 Wrote:
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> What in the world are you doing up all night
> long?

I'm a night person. I usually only go into the office when I have to have face time with my boss or co-workers, or for meetings with the CEO and the advertising department. Otherwise, I do most of my programming and system maintenance at night.



>
> Who are you, whatz your story?
>

I'm me. My story is just like everyone else's. I'm nobody special. The only thing that makes me different from many people is that I see my job as a path to do things I like, instead of it being what defines me as a person. It allows me to make money so I can travel, learn and eventually be independently wealthy.

> I have been reading about Tony C., how horribly
> tragic on so many levels.
>
> CD, my ex-spouse constantly referred to this
> phrase, but he departmentilized.
>


I've never known how to absorb all of the information about Danny Casolaro. Especially since it isn't like other "conspiracy theories", because I vaguely knew the family, and was there when they got the call about his "suicide".

All I can rationally conclude is that there are many layers to reality, and the top layer is what is constructed for our consumption. Once you get a few layers down, it is hard to figure out, and since nobody will ever get to the absolute truth, it only shows you that you should never accept anything at face value because there are so many factions and ideologies working to achieve some goal or agenda, and the truth is never going to have a fighting chance. Trying to determine the actual reality will only drive a person crazy.

When you say your ex constantly used that phrase, did you mean "being suicided"? Because it happens all the time. The guy that leaked the Tony Brown Iraq memo killed himself. A guy from Enron killed himself. Lots of other people in the middle of a controversy have killed themselves. It is only logical to believe that not all of those were actually suicides, but only made to look like they were. Some were legit, but some weren't.

> Therapist don't care about getting to the truth
> and sharing it, instead you do a brain dump of
> what's troubling you and basically they tell you
> to move past it, bite the bullet. This is what I
> so want to do, but my life as it is(without going
> down that road again) doesn't allow that option.
> It's like beating my head against a brick wall,
> over and over. Can you understand what I am
> telling you?
> I want normal, as boring as that sounds.
>
> No matter how you package some of what I have said
> it is hard to swallow because of it's gravity, and
> I know that, but it's the truth.
>

Therapists are about as good as palm readers and tarot card readers. If you're willing to find comfort in the easiest way, they can do it for you, they can tell you it's all going to be better. And make sure you stop at the front desk and pay the bill on your way out.

There are real psychologists and psychiatrists, and treatment centers, and things like that. "therapy" is like going to a witch doctor when you have cancer. There are specialists who deal with cancer, right?


> My intentions are not to scare people but to open
> their eyes to the truth. After 9/11 I feel what I
> am saying couldn't scare them any more then the
> reality of that dreadful day.
>
> I read your post on McCain dropping out, your
> being a Rep. and working for Davis isn't
> motivating you here? I contaced Davis several
> times in regards to my situation was told there
> wasn't a thing he could do over and over...until
> finally I was told to hire an attorney. This
> regarded the accusations my ex-spouse made of me
> being a terrorist, alot of help he was...not.

Because I recognize that the neoconservatives have hijacked the republican party. I cannot condone or support their agenda of American Hegemony and Imperialism. I still believe in true, traditional conservative ideals. This bunch is really a bunch of whitewashed straussian liberals, socialists who believe in wars of aggression and commerce through force. I'll still volunteer and donate to republicans who don't have themselves surrounded by the likes of Fieth, Kristol, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Podhoretz, and others.


>
> Tell me, why does this site have a reputation of
> being a bully-nazi site, if posters aren't trying
> to be mean? I dispute your claim, I have seen
> nothing but attacks, the kind you would see from a
> male-dominated testerone overdosed government
> agency gone crazy.
>

This is the internet. Even I can be a jerk sometimes because of the luxury of some amount of anonymity.

> By the way, people are being told to say I am
> crazy. I am not doing or behaving in a manner
> that warrants such a claim.
>

Don't feed on it. Don't let them get at you, frazzle your nerves or cause you to fulfill their claims.

> When do you sleep?


I get anywhere from 5 to 8 hours of sleep each night. Sometimes I may not go to bed until 6am, but if I have to go to the office, I can get away with showing up around 11 or 11:30 am, and it only takes about 12 to 15 minutes to get downtown at that hour from where I live.

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> Spunky2,
>
> Sorry you are not satisfied with my assertion that
> I am not Elliot. I am just verbose.
>

OK, RVoter, I realize after the initial shock of coming onto this site and what I faced, I became a bit defensive, OK, alot. With that in check I can give you the benefit of the doubt, or not, that's up to you and future communication or not.

> I actually give a shit about people - I have been
> active on the internet since 1994. I used to play
> text MUDs (you know what those are?) where I ran
> into many people who were either depressed or
> looking for attention in one way or another. You
> certainly sound like you have some problems you
> are trying to deal with, so I offered up some
> advice to others on here to be little more aware
> of how they speak to people here.

I brought this subject up several posts back in this thread. Like they say, "The pen is mighty then the sword". Words should be carefully weighed before they leave your mouth, because you can't take them back. I unfortunately am all slashed up from a sword fight, one against many, real fair odds, but nothing I can't or won't handle.

Believe me I am not looking for attention, what I endure in here, it's not worth it, there are better ways to get attention without being beat on each time I post something. But I don't cowtail to Bullies...and I won't allow you to attempt tp push me around or dictate to me, as if you were a Nazi. I grew up in an area where this WORD went on all the time, I've learned to deal, even though it's wrong
and illegal, that didn't matter, and it doesn't seem to here either. As far as depressed I'm not that either.


Over the years
> on the net, I can attest to many times people take
> what you say out of the intention of what you are
> saying because it is hard to portray the "tone"
> you are speaking in when using text. Thus my use
> of :) on occasion to let you know I am smiling
> when I say things.
>
> But hey, you want to lash out at every person that
> posts in a thread you have, feel free. No skin off
> my back. Perhaps that is the ultimate troll
> posting - put up a thread and anyone that responds
> either good or bad, you play whack-a-mole with?
> Whatever :)
>
> Take care.


If someone lashes out at me, do I not have the right to respond, without being told I am the one that is lashing? I believe this is contradicting and generalizing, because I have not lashed out at "everyone." Think about it, why would someone lash out at someone who has said something good, that makes no sense, anyway you won't find it because I haven't. So, if you are going to talk to me in a tone of cooperation at least have your facts straight, so I, or anyone else, can at least respect what you are saying enough to give you credibility. After all your words are just as weighty as mine, and just as noticed for their content.

So my point: When I am being attacked, I have the right and will take it to defend myself, wouldn't you?

Meeper what talents you have, I had no idea you were so creative.

Thank you for taking the time to create such a work of art, it must have taken you the better part of the day, and all for me...thank you sweetheart :)

I don't understand the synbolizism of the wolve, cat and what ever that thumb looking thing is with the eyes and beak. Could you please be a doll and explain it to me?

Thanks again for the present, how did you know it was my birthday?