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Jack Booted Libs on the Job
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WTF?
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Date: March 20, 2013 06:03PM
Family Says New Jersey Overreacted To Boy’s Gun Photo On Facebook
March 20, 2013 4:30 PM
CARNEYS POINT, N.J. (AP) – The ruddy-cheeked, camouflage-clad boy in the photo smiles out from behind a pair of glasses, proudly holding a gun his father gave him as a present for his upcoming 11th birthday.
The weapon in the photo, posted by his dad on Facebook, resembles a military-style assault rifle but, his father says, is actually just a .22-caliber copy. And that, the family believes, is why child welfare case workers and police officers visited the home in Carneys Point last Friday and asked to see his guns.
New Jersey’s Department of Children and Families declined to comment specifically on the case but says it often follows up on tips. The family and an attorney say father Shawn Moore’s Second Amendment rights to bear arms were threatened in a state that already has some of the nation’s strictest gun laws and is considering strengthening them after December’s schoolhouse massacre in Connecticut.
In this case, the family believes someone called New Jersey’s anonymous child abuse hotline.
Shawn Moore said he gave his son Josh the gun as a present to use on hunting trips. The elder Moore was at a friend’s house when his wife called, saying state child welfare investigators, along with four local police officers, were at the house, asking to inspect the family’s guns.
Moore said he called his lawyer Evan Nappen, who specializes in Second Amendment cases, and had him on speakerphone as he arrived at his house in Carneys Point, just across the Delaware River from Wilmington, Del.
“They said they wanted to see into my safe and see if my guns were registered,” Moore said. “I said no; in New Jersey, your guns don’t have to be registered with the state; it’s voluntary. I knew once I opened that safe, there was no going back.”
With the lawyer listening in on the phone, Moore said he asked the investigators and police officers whether they had a warrant to search his home. When they said no, he asked them to leave. One of the child welfare officials would not identify herself when Moore asked for her name, he said.
The agents and the police officers left, and nothing has happened since, he said.
“I don’t like what happened,” he said. “You’re not even safe in your own house. If they can just show up at any time and make you open safes and go through your house, that’s not freedom; it’s like tyranny.”
State child welfare spokeswoman Kristine Brown said that when it receives a report of suspected abuse or neglect, it assigns a caseworker to follow up. She said law enforcement officers are asked to accompany caseworkers only if the caseworkers feel their safety could be compromised.
“It’s the caseworker’s call,” she said. “It is important to note the way an investigation begins is through the child abuse hotline. Someone has to call to let us know there is a concern.”
Carneys Point Police Chief Robert DiGregorio did not answer a call late Tuesday to his office.
March 20, 2013 4:30 PM
CARNEYS POINT, N.J. (AP) – The ruddy-cheeked, camouflage-clad boy in the photo smiles out from behind a pair of glasses, proudly holding a gun his father gave him as a present for his upcoming 11th birthday.
The weapon in the photo, posted by his dad on Facebook, resembles a military-style assault rifle but, his father says, is actually just a .22-caliber copy. And that, the family believes, is why child welfare case workers and police officers visited the home in Carneys Point last Friday and asked to see his guns.
New Jersey’s Department of Children and Families declined to comment specifically on the case but says it often follows up on tips. The family and an attorney say father Shawn Moore’s Second Amendment rights to bear arms were threatened in a state that already has some of the nation’s strictest gun laws and is considering strengthening them after December’s schoolhouse massacre in Connecticut.
In this case, the family believes someone called New Jersey’s anonymous child abuse hotline.
Shawn Moore said he gave his son Josh the gun as a present to use on hunting trips. The elder Moore was at a friend’s house when his wife called, saying state child welfare investigators, along with four local police officers, were at the house, asking to inspect the family’s guns.
Moore said he called his lawyer Evan Nappen, who specializes in Second Amendment cases, and had him on speakerphone as he arrived at his house in Carneys Point, just across the Delaware River from Wilmington, Del.
“They said they wanted to see into my safe and see if my guns were registered,” Moore said. “I said no; in New Jersey, your guns don’t have to be registered with the state; it’s voluntary. I knew once I opened that safe, there was no going back.”
With the lawyer listening in on the phone, Moore said he asked the investigators and police officers whether they had a warrant to search his home. When they said no, he asked them to leave. One of the child welfare officials would not identify herself when Moore asked for her name, he said.
The agents and the police officers left, and nothing has happened since, he said.
“I don’t like what happened,” he said. “You’re not even safe in your own house. If they can just show up at any time and make you open safes and go through your house, that’s not freedom; it’s like tyranny.”
State child welfare spokeswoman Kristine Brown said that when it receives a report of suspected abuse or neglect, it assigns a caseworker to follow up. She said law enforcement officers are asked to accompany caseworkers only if the caseworkers feel their safety could be compromised.
“It’s the caseworker’s call,” she said. “It is important to note the way an investigation begins is through the child abuse hotline. Someone has to call to let us know there is a concern.”
Carneys Point Police Chief Robert DiGregorio did not answer a call late Tuesday to his office.
Re: Jack Booted Libs on the Job
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itchy
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Date: March 20, 2013 06:53PM
Yea, I can't wait to see how people react to my son's facebook photo of him posing with my boar spear.
Re: Jack Booted Libs on the Job
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Annoying yankee
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Date: March 20, 2013 08:42PM
The kid had a photo taken with a gun. So why did CPS show up? Holding a gun while getting your picture taken is "abuse" now? Is this woman being abused?
Re: Jack Booted Libs on the Job
Posted by:
Lib Nuts
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Date: March 20, 2013 08:47PM
Annoying yankee Wrote:
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> The kid had a photo taken with a gun. So why did
> CPS show up? Holding a gun while getting your
> picture taken is "abuse" now? Is this woman being
> abused?
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> The kid had a photo taken with a gun. So why did
> CPS show up? Holding a gun while getting your
> picture taken is "abuse" now? Is this woman being
> abused?
>
>
Re: Jack Booted Libs on the Job
Posted by:
fugid...
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Date: March 20, 2013 09:02PM
This is another obvious reason for NOT involving yourself in the pointless, egocentric, waste of time callled Facebook. Why do so many idiots five hundreds of "friends" unfettered access to their personal lives? Here's a test, if the person has never been in your home, or you have never been in his, he is not a friend.
Re: Jack Booted Libs on the Job
Posted by:
itchy
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Date: March 20, 2013 09:24PM
Annoying yankee Wrote:
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>Is this woman being abused?
Only by my imagination. And I wouldn't consider it abuse. Sorry, but put a decent looking woman with an M4 variant in front of me and I can't help but get a little excited.
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>Is this woman being abused?
Only by my imagination. And I wouldn't consider it abuse. Sorry, but put a decent looking woman with an M4 variant in front of me and I can't help but get a little excited.
Re: Jack Booted Libs on the Job
Posted by:
KXUGt
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Date: March 21, 2013 09:18AM
Dunno, but looking at her photo I know *I'm* being abused.
Re: Jack Booted Libs on the Job
Posted by:
ccc
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Date: March 21, 2013 09:47AM
Annoying yankee Wrote:
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> The kid had a photo taken with a gun. So why did
> CPS show up? Holding a gun while getting your
> picture taken is "abuse" now? Is this woman being
> abused?
>
>
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> The kid had a photo taken with a gun. So why did
> CPS show up? Holding a gun while getting your
> picture taken is "abuse" now? Is this woman being
> abused?
>
>