Everyone keeps saying there's a special place in hell for this man, but I pray he's in Jesus's arms instead. Let's pray for Adam Lanza, there is nothing in this world beyond the reach of God. Not a single thing too big for the love, grace, and boundless mercy of Jesus Christ.

I know in my heart that Jesus forgives this man and if someone could pray for me, that I would forgive Adam the same way He does, love Adam the same way He does, I would greatly appreciate it.

Fuck that.

He deserves nothing short of eternal damnation for the cold-blooded killing of children. No torment could ever come close to what he deserves. He got off easy by shooting himself. Why didn't he do it before killing those babies?

Hank Moody Wrote:
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> Fuck that.


+1

Some things just aren't forgivable.

Death Is Too Good Wrote:
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> He deserves nothing short of eternal damnation for
> the cold-blooded killing of children. No torment
> could ever come close to what he deserves. He got
> off easy by shooting himself. Why didn't he do it
> before killing those babies?

The whole of God is Love. He is just and merciful as well, as well as all the other attributes given to him throughout Scripture, but his single, most defining characteristic is perfect Love.

Adam Lanza is not for us to judge. Nor is it for us to give mercy. We are called to love just as God loved us.

a believer Wrote:
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> Death Is Too Good Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > He deserves nothing short of eternal damnation
> for
> > the cold-blooded killing of children. No
> torment
> > could ever come close to what he deserves. He
> got
> > off easy by shooting himself. Why didn't he do
> it
> > before killing those babies?
>
> The whole of God is Love. He is just and merciful
> as well, as well as all the other attributes given
> to him throughout Scripture, but his single, most
> defining characteristic is perfect Love.
>
> Adam Lanza is not for us to judge. Nor is it for
> us to give mercy. We are called to love just as
> God loved us.



You're fucking insane.

a believer Wrote:
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> The whole of God is Love. He is just and merciful
> as well, as well as all the other attributes given
> to him throughout Scripture, but his single, most
> defining characteristic is perfect Love.
>
> Adam Lanza is not for us to judge. Nor is it for
> us to give mercy. We are called to love just as
> God loved us.

In this case, I'm comfortable judging. And, given the opportunity, of being executioner as well, but he prevented anyone from being in that role. I'm glad he and God have had a face-to-face meeting by now.

Death Is Too Good Wrote:
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> He deserves nothing short of eternal damnation

Adam Lanza must have been in a lot of pain to do what he did. Finding comfort in the fact that Adam Lanza is probably going to hell is just sick. That is not the response that the Bible promotes.

Everyone is responsible.

daughter of God Wrote:
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> Adam Lanza must have been in a lot of pain to do
> what he did. Finding comfort in the fact that Adam
> Lanza is probably going to hell is just sick. That
> is not the response that the Bible promotes.

His pain is, or was, NOTHING, compared to the pain he inflicted on those young and innocent children. As the parent of a 6 y.o., I can't begin to fathom the terror and pain all those parents are going through right now. My girl and I had a long talk about what happened and I tried to answer why. She's still sleeping with us at night. I can't even read all the way through one of the news stories without my heart breaking.

Your God was asleep at the wheel last Friday morning.

Hell is far too kind a place for that bastard.

that's what's so great about atheism. There's no fake angst over things you don't control. If you're going to obsess or worry about something, do it over something more personal that involves youself or the people around you....

There is no god.

caddy shack Wrote:
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> There is no god.


+1

Death Is Too Good Wrote:
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> Your God was asleep at the wheel last Friday morning.

We praise our Lord, who is our God awesome in his power, and magnificent in his forgiveness. He sent His Son to die on the cross so that we might be saved in his boundless kingdom of righteousness. Our Christ is King.

I will pray for you to accept His holiness into your heart.

Death Is Too Good Wrote:
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> daughter of God Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Adam Lanza must have been in a lot of pain to
> do
> > what he did. Finding comfort in the fact that
> Adam
> > Lanza is probably going to hell is just sick.
> That
> > is not the response that the Bible promotes.
>
> His pain is, or was, NOTHING, compared to the pain
> he inflicted on those young and innocent children.
> As the parent of a 6 y.o., I can't begin to fathom
> the terror and pain all those parents are going
> through right now. My girl and I had a long talk
> about what happened and I tried to answer why.
> She's still sleeping with us at night. I can't
> even read all the way through one of the news
> stories without my heart breaking.
>
> Your God was asleep at the wheel last Friday
> morning.
>
> Hell is far too kind a place for that bastard.

Hell doesn't exist.

Have you had a talk with your child about the countless children vaporized in the course of "just" wars?

John 3:16 Wrote:
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> We praise our Lord, who is our God awesome in his
> power, and magnificent in his forgiveness. He
> sent His Son to die on the cross so that we might
> be saved in his boundless kingdom of
> righteousness. Our Christ is King.
>
> I will pray for you to accept His holiness into
> your heart.

Blah-blah-blah. 12 years of attending a private Christian
school opened my eyes to the nonsense in your heart.

*Your* God was asleep at the wheel last Friday morning.
Tell me how those 20 innocent children were saved and how
happy they were as they were mercilessly ripped to shreds
by evil incarnate. The last ones shot got to see their
friends murdered. Where was *your* God at that moment?

OP is right, you know. According to the Bible and the teachings of Christ, even Lanza would have been forgiven and gotten into heaven if he'd accepted Jesus into his heart and repented before he died. People don't get to pick or choose when God's grace applies; only God can decide that. If those teachers didn't acccept Jesus, they went to hell. It doesn't matter whether or not they died protecting kids. The Bible is very clear on how you get into heaven.

Why does God let bad things happen like this? For the same reason he tested the simple faith of Job. He works in mysterious ways, and it's just your hubris and pride that causes you to question God's judgment. This was all part of God's plan, just like everything else.

If you were a true Christian, you'd forgive Lanza for what he did and simply pray for the families to find peace.

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Death Is Too Good Wrote:
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>
> Where was *your* God at that moment?

I heard on Fox News earlier that Jesus was actually positioned right outside the school doors with an AK-47, but he retreated in anger when he saw the Commandments had been torn off the wall by some do-nothing union employees.

caddy shack Wrote:
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> There is no god.

Ok. But don't start saying that shit about Santa. Or it's going to get real up in here.

I heard on MSNBC that it was Bush's fault.

Forgive him? Fuck you. If he walked into the school and shouted obscenities, then he could be forgiven. For what he did there is no forgiveness.

I hope he and his mom have a special suite in hell, where Michael Vicks dogs are pulling them apart, piece by piece, slowly, patiently, letting them bleed...

Que? Wrote:
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> Forgive him? Fuck you. If he walked into the
> school and shouted obscenities, then he could be
> forgiven. For what he did there is no forgiveness.
>
>
> I hope he and his mom have a special suite in
> hell, where Michael Vicks dogs are pulling them
> apart, piece by piece, slowly, patiently, letting
> them bleed...

I'm not telling you what to do. I'm just telling you what the Bible says.

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MrMephisto Wrote:
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> OP is right, you know. According to the Bible and
> the teachings of Christ, even Lanza would have
> been forgiven and gotten into heaven if he'd
> accepted Jesus into his heart and repented before
> he died. People don't get to pick or choose when
> God's grace applies; only God can decide that. If
> those teachers didn't acccept Jesus, they went to
> hell. It doesn't matter whether or not they died
> protecting kids. The Bible is very clear on how
> you get into heaven.
>
> Why does God let bad things happen like this? For
> the same reason he tested the simple faith of Job.
> He works in mysterious ways, and it's just your
> hubris and pride that causes you to question God's
> judgment. This was all part of God's plan, just
> like everything else.
>
> If you were a true Christian, you'd forgive Lanza
> for what he did and simply pray for the families
> to find peace.


Is this why liberals forgave the terrorists on 9/11 and embraced the Muslim world with love and compassion?

MrMephisto Wrote:
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> OP is right, you know. According to the Bible and
> the teachings of Christ, even Lanza would have
> been forgiven and gotten into heaven if he'd
> accepted Jesus into his heart and repented before
> he died. People don't get to pick or choose when
> God's grace applies; only God can decide that. If
> those teachers didn't acccept Jesus, they went to
> hell. It doesn't matter whether or not they died
> protecting kids. The Bible is very clear on how
> you get into heaven.
>
> Why does God let bad things happen like this? For
> the same reason he tested the simple faith of Job.
> He works in mysterious ways, and it's just your
> hubris and pride that causes you to question God's
> judgment. This was all part of God's plan, just
> like everything else.
>
> If you were a true Christian, you'd forgive Lanza
> for what he did and simply pray for the families
> to find peace.

Christians are a walking advertisement for atheism.

Death Is Too Good Wrote:
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> John 3:16 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > We praise our Lord, who is our God awesome in
> his
> > power, and magnificent in his forgiveness. He
> > sent His Son to die on the cross so that we
> might
> > be saved in his boundless kingdom of
> > righteousness. Our Christ is King.
> >
> > I will pray for you to accept His holiness
> into
> > your heart.
>
> Blah-blah-blah. 12 years of attending a private
> Christian
> school opened my eyes to the nonsense in your
> heart.
>
> *Your* God was asleep at the wheel last Friday
> morning.
> Tell me how those 20 innocent children were saved
> and how
> happy they were as they were mercilessly ripped to
> shreds
> by evil incarnate. The last ones shot got to see
> their
> friends murdered. Where was *your* God at that
> moment?


Going to a "Christian" school doesn't mean you know or understand Christ. God didn't cause this. The shooter caused it and our society enabled him. He was an avid violent gamer with mental disorders who was left to his single mother to try and help. He was not religious in any way as far as we've been told.

We can't overtly and purposefully throw God out of our lives and then wonder why He is no longer there "at that moment". The absence of God is just a vacuum for evil to florish and grow. And evil is thriving in the US right now. God is a life preserver that is always right there next to us. But we have to reach out and grab Him.

MrMephisto Wrote:
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> OP is right, you know. According to the Bible and
> the teachings of Christ, even Lanza would have
> been forgiven and gotten into heaven if he'd
> accepted Jesus into his heart and repented before
> he died. People don't get to pick or choose when
> God's grace applies; only God can decide that. If
> those teachers didn't acccept Jesus, they went to
> hell. It doesn't matter whether or not they died
> protecting kids. The Bible is very clear on how
> you get into heaven.
>
> Why does God let bad things happen like this? For
> the same reason he tested the simple faith of Job.
> He works in mysterious ways, and it's just your
> hubris and pride that causes you to question God's
> judgment. This was all part of God's plan, just
> like everything else.
>
> If you were a true Christian, you'd forgive Lanza
> for what he did and simply pray for the families
> to find peace.


You seem to know the words, but your posts show you don't understand them. This was not God's judgement. God keep the world in balance until man embraced sin. At that point, He removed His hand. The more we reject Him, the further He removes His hand from us. The laws of nature and the universe predicate chaos. God brings order to that chaos. If we reject God, we invite chaos. But don't worry, there's always a "helpful" person willing to restore order to our society. The cost is always death, war, tyranny, division and hatred. But hey, at least Metro will run on time.

I wonder if the nut asking us to forgive Adam Lanza is from Kansas and/or has a last name of Phelps or is a WBC sypathizer. Fuck all you weird assholes.

Why does God let children die? Why?

why? why? Wrote:
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> Why does God let children die? Why?


Evil exists in the world. More and more, we drift towards evil as a society (as most societies have over the centuries). God let's our decisions carry through to their natural conclusions. You could ask, "Why does God let anyone die?". But the Bible already answers that. Man fell. Now, we're not just fallen, we're digging a hole to go even deeper.

Broken covenant Wrote:
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>
> God keep the world in balance until
> man embraced sin. At that point, He removed His
> hand. The more we reject Him, the further He
> removes His hand from us. God brings order to
> that chaos. If we reject God, we invite chaos.

Phew, now that's alot to take down.

I'm sure every ancient culture had their way of appeasing whatever god they were worshipping, and I'm sure they were all well convinced that they were right.

Guess I should be thankful that I was born in an age when religionists no longer practice human sacrifices or ritual bloodletting to appease their deity. Instead we get stories about moving toward a giant hand.

Broken covenant Wrote:
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> You seem to know the words, but your posts show
> you don't understand them. This was not God's
> judgement. God keep the world in balance until
> man embraced sin. At that point, He removed His
> hand. The more we reject Him, the further He
> removes His hand from us. The laws of nature and
> the universe predicate chaos. God brings order to
> that chaos. If we reject God, we invite chaos.
> But don't worry, there's always a "helpful" person
> willing to restore order to our society. The cost
> is always death, war, tyranny, division and
> hatred. But hey, at least Metro will run on time.

There's no difference between what I'm saying and what you're saying. Either God caused this to happen as part of His plan, or he did nothing and allowed it to happen because of the sins of humanity. Six of one, half-dozen of the other.

Again, to reference Job: God didn't punish Job, he sat back and allowed the devil to punish Job. Whichever way you want to slice it, God was still the driving force behind why it happened. Also, that was part of His plan, because he wanted to prove that Job wouldn't lose his faith in the face of such hardship.

How do you know that God isn't doing the same thing here? Testing the faith of humanity by allowing this tragedy to occur? If your faith is strong, then the path is clear; you must forgive Lanza.

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MrMephisto Wrote:
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> Broken covenant Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You seem to know the words, but your posts show
> > you don't understand them. This was not God's
> > judgement. God keep the world in balance until
> > man embraced sin. At that point, He removed
> His
> > hand. The more we reject Him, the further He
> > removes His hand from us. The laws of nature
> and
> > the universe predicate chaos. God brings order
> to
> > that chaos. If we reject God, we invite chaos.
>
> > But don't worry, there's always a "helpful"
> person
> > willing to restore order to our society. The
> cost
> > is always death, war, tyranny, division and
> > hatred. But hey, at least Metro will run on
> time.
>
> There's no difference between what I'm saying and
> what you're saying. Either God caused this to
> happen as part of His plan, or he did nothing and
> allowed it to happen because of the sins of
> humanity. Six of one, half-dozen of the other.
>
> Again, to reference Job: God didn't punish Job, he
> sat back and allowed the devil to punish Job.
> Whichever way you want to slice it, God was still
> the driving force behind why it happened. Also,
> that was part of His plan, because he wanted to
> prove that Job wouldn't lose his faith in the face
> of such hardship.
>
> How do you know that God isn't doing the same
> thing here? Testing the faith of humanity by
> allowing this tragedy to occur? If your faith is
> strong, then the path is clear; you must forgive
> Lanza.


We agree somewhat. Allowing humanity to choose it's path (both as individuals and as communities/societies) has always been. We choose our path, we walk it. God is not the driving force in our choices, we are. You might believe that God and Satan are playing a game with us. That is not how I see it. It is a struggle, not a game. God represents holiness and Satan unholiness. And currently, Satan is winning.

It is natural to question God. But if you reject Him from the onset, how can you then question Him? Children question their parents all the time. But loving parents are making the best decisions for their kids, whether they understand it or not. If God exists, how much greater is His understanding over us than that of a parent over their 2 year old?

Give it up Phelpers.

Broken covenant Wrote:

> It is natural to question God. But if you reject
> Him from the onset, how can you then question Him?
> Children question their parents all the time.
> But loving parents are making the best decisions
> for their kids, whether they understand it or not.
> If God exists, how much greater is His
> understanding over us than that of a parent over
> their 2 year old?


Ahhhh. Thank you. I understand now.

If this father can forgive the shooter and show compassion for the Lanza family, it makes clear thinking folks wonder why anyone this board has such hatred for him

http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/16/us/connecticut-emilie-parker/index.html

Robbie Parker is an practicing Christian btw.

Old Testament God wouldn't stand for this. Judgmental, vindictive and borderline sociopathic is what is needed here.

Nancy Lanza gave young Adam the world, only he had no place to put it.

He smashed his hard drive. That is unforgiveable.

If there is a heaven, I truly hope bastards like Adam Lanza are not there. No child murderer, child molestor, pedophile, rapist, etc. should find a reward like heaven in the afterlife. They should burn in hell for eternity, their suffering intensified for each of their victims!

Apparently, he was starting to harm himself. Set himself on fire. Cut himself. A home, however much supervision his mother Nancy was trying to provide for him, was no place for him.

Noplaceforhim Wrote:
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> If there is a heaven, I truly hope bastards like
> Adam Lanza are not there. No child murderer,
> child molestor, pedophile, rapist, etc. should
> find a reward like heaven in the afterlife. They
> should burn in hell for eternity, their suffering
> intensified for each of their victims!


What would Jesus do?

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@Mr M - he'd get crucified for what Lanza did, that what he'd do..........

John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life."

That includes Lanza, Christians.

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No forgivness from us is needed, its in God's hands now.

Unless we start killing these wackos off, Darwinism will fail.

MrMephisto Wrote:
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> John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that he gave
> his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him
> shall not perish but have eternal life."
>
> That includes Lanza, Christians.


Which Christians are disagreeing? You seem to want an argument but the only one's giving you one are fellow atheists.

Broken covenant Wrote:
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> Which Christians are disagreeing?

The ones saying that Lanza doesn't deserve to go to heaven, that he should burn in hell, and that people who commit similar atrocities should get the same treatment.

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MrMephisto Wrote:
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> Broken covenant Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Which Christians are disagreeing?
>
> The ones saying that Lanza doesn't deserve to go
> to heaven, that he should burn in hell, and that
> people who commit similar atrocities should get
> the same treatment.

No Christian would think that. Anyone who does is not a Christian (or, at best, they are a very marginal Christian who does not live the Word). Calling yourself a Christian and being a Christian are not one in the same. Most of the hate and frothing, irrational ranting seems to be coming from the anti-God faction.

Noplaceforhim Wrote:
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>
> If there is a heaven, I truly hope bastards like
> Adam Lanza are not there.


If there is a heaven, I'm sure it's filled with very devout christians, clergymen, and people who knock on doors to hand out religious pamphlets.

It sounds pretty unpleasant, actually.

Heaven is boring. Move along to Plan B.

Plan B

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> If there is a heaven, I'm sure it's filled with
> very devout christians, clergymen, and people who
> knock on doors to hand out religious pamphlets.
>
> It sounds pretty unpleasant, actually.


Not when you consider the alternative.

I used to attend spiritual seminars a long time ago. According to them, there's lot of people clamoring to get back into the real world from the spiritual world so they can experience life. This is where the real spiritual growth occurs. You encounter hardships or obstacles.

People, Adam Lanza was mentally ill. It sounds like he received the best possible care, but he still went off the deep end.

I heard the most probable explanation for why this happened this morning: Adam was receiving intensive psychological and other support from the school system - until he graduated - at which point he was on his own (except for the efforts of his mother). And he spiralled downward.

We have to find a better way to provide on-going support to people with mental health problems, for their sake and for ours. This is especially true given the current epidemic of autism-related disorders. You can't just lock them all up.

Ok, opions needed. I hear people say he got off easy by shooting himself, my opion on this is, yes, he did. Others say at least the public won't be footing the bill for the trial and incarceration and death penalty(if he got it).

Here is the question:

Are you glad he saved the tax payers money so there is no trial and incarceration or wish he didn't and got the needle?

WOW!!!! Wrote:
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> Ok, opions needed. I hear people say he got off
> easy by shooting himself, my opion on this is,
> yes, he did. Others say at least the public won't
> be footing the bill for the trial and
> incarceration and death penalty(if he got it).
>
> Here is the question:
>
> Are you glad he saved the tax payers money so
> there is no trial and incarceration or wish he
> didn't and got the needle?

As Gravis would have said, people like this need to be taken in one piece and dissected to find out where the faulty wiring is.

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Maybe instead of letting her son become a complete recluse and buying violent video games to occupy and pacify him, she could have done something other than going to bunko games and bar hopping ( or at least get junior out of the house occasionally) She created her own demise as do many others who think allowing their disabled children to hide from society and provide inappropriate alternatives in their dulusional world. Unfortunately as well as their end, they unleash a monster on the rest of us. If someone is living in your house , they shouldnt have a total expectation of complete privacy. Be a parent.

50 years ago, a person with Adam Lanza's mental issues would have been locked away in a Mental Institution where he would have gotten treatment and therapy for his issues.

Institutions Wrote:
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> 50 years ago, a person with Adam Lanza's mental
> issues would have been locked away in a Mental
> Institution where he would have gotten treatment
> and therapy for his issues.





He really didn't have any signs of mental illness other than his developmental disorder, the mild autism. It's not like he had a history of violent behavior or suicidal tendencies.

He has that history now, maybe if she hadnt just let him hide, someone else could have helped

2 cents Wrote:
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> People, Adam Lanza was mentally ill. It sounds
> like he received the best possible care, but he
> still went off the deep end.
>
> I heard the most probable explanation for why this
> happened this morning: Adam was receiving
> intensive psychological and other support from the
> school system - until he graduated - at which
> point he was on his own (except for the efforts of
> his mother). And he spiralled downward.
>
> We have to find a better way to provide on-going
> support to people with mental health problems, for
> their sake and for ours. This is especially true
> given the current epidemic of autism-related
> disorders. You can't just lock them all up.


You bring up a lot of good points. However, it appears that Adam was pulled from the public school system in his junior year and home schooled so he wasn't receiving any support from the school system at that point.

Also, the Columbine shooters had ADHD and were on medication, Cho suffered from depression and Holmes was being seen by a psychiatrist. All of them played violent video games (Doom, WoW, COD). Harris/Klebold (The Martix among others) and Holmes (the Batman trilogy) were obsessed with violent movies. There seems to be a pattern with these murderers. Autism is not the key.

Less Miserable Wrote:
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> All of
> them played violent video games (Doom, WoW, COD).
> Harris/Klebold (The Martix among others) and
> Holmes (the Batman trilogy) were obsessed with
> violent movies. There seems to be a pattern with
> these murderers. Autism is not the key.




LMAO So video games are the tell tale sign of a mass murderer? The Matrix, seriously?


Think of all the people that play these games, or listen to music with violent music, and the vast majority are not out killing people.


You are the same type of person that blamed Marlyn Manson for Columbine.

This incident has absolutely no correlation to religion. With or without it, these things can happen.

I think we're all "victims" of our parents decisions, and our own decisions in life. If Hitler had chose to continue painting, or had never read Mein Kampf, he could have turned out to be a fairly decent chap.

You can say this about anyone you believe is, or was a horrible person.

Turn left or turn right? We face these choices all the time in life and sometimes it can change you completely, for better or worse.

eesh Wrote:
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> Institutions Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > 50 years ago, a person with Adam Lanza's mental
> > issues would have been locked away in a Mental
> > Institution where he would have gotten
> treatment
> > and therapy for his issues.
>
>
>
>
>
> He really didn't have any signs of mental illness
> other than his developmental disorder, the mild
> autism. It's not like he had a history of violent
> behavior or suicidal tendencies.

The mild autism and developmental disorder would have been enough to have him committed. Fairfield Hills Mental Asylum was located near his home in Newton, CT. Too bad it closed!

People with autism or mild autism shouldn't be committed. They just need plenty of support and possible therapy. It's not like they are schizophrenic.

It's now coming out that he held LAN parties and he was a gregarious, well-adjusted, and well-like fellow when he could use anonymous unregistered handles.

eesh Wrote:
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> Less Miserable Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > All of
> > them played violent video games (Doom, WoW,
> COD).
> > Harris/Klebold (The Martix among others) and
> > Holmes (the Batman trilogy) were obsessed with
> > violent movies. There seems to be a pattern
> with
> > these murderers. Autism is not the key.
>
>
>
>
> LMAO So video games are the tell tale sign of a
> mass murderer? The Matrix, seriously?
>
>
> Think of all the people that play these games, or
> listen to music with violent music, and the vast
> majority are not out killing people.
>
>
> You are the same type of person that blamed Marlyn
> Manson for Columbine.


No, I'm not that type of person eesh. You ability to jump to unsubstantiated conclusions is impressive. Nutty, but impressive. What is it with people like you who thread bits and pieces of a post together to paint some repressive picture that you've painted in that mind of yours? Everything I posted was true. I didn't write that violent video games was the "tell tall sign" of anything. I wrote (correctly) that all of these shooters play them. I was responding to another poster. Why do you feel the need to assume totally stupid stuff and then post totally stupid posts to show that you've assumed something totally stupid? Seriously, I'd like to know.

Numbers Wrote:
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> This incident has absolutely no correlation to
> religion. With or without it, these things can
> happen.
>
> I think we're all "victims" of our parents
> decisions, and our own decisions in life. If
> Hitler had chose to continue painting, or had
> never read Mein Kampf, he could have turned out to
> be a fairly decent chap.
>
> You can say this about anyone you believe is, or
> was a horrible person.
>
> Turn left or turn right? We face these choices all
> the time in life and sometimes it can change you
> completely, for better or worse.


Hitler wrote Mein Kampf. Yes, he probably read it as he was writing it, but it wasn't the reading that was "tell tale" (ask eesh what that means), it was his writing it that was.

eesh Wrote:
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> People with autism or mild autism shouldn't be
> committed. They just need plenty of support and
> possible therapy. It's not like they are
> schizophrenic.


Yes, they should. Give FACTs to support your statment.

ArtisicBoy Wrote:
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> eesh Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > People with autism or mild autism shouldn't be
> > committed. They just need plenty of support and
> > possible therapy. It's not like they are
> > schizophrenic.
>
>
> Yes, they should. Give FACTs to support your
> statment.





How about you support your statement that Autistic people be in some sort of inpatient treatment.....

Less Miserable Wrote:
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> Hitler wrote Mein Kampf.

You're right, it wasn't Mein Kampf, it was Wuthering Heights. He claimed he was very cross that Heathcliff kept leaving Cathy, who was of aryan descent.

Broken covenant Wrote:
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> Going to a "Christian" school doesn't mean you
> know or understand Christ. God didn't cause this.
> The shooter caused it and our society enabled
> him. He was an avid violent gamer with mental
> disorders who was left to his single mother to try
> and help.

I love religion... interpret it however you want for a given circumstance. A woman was impregnated by her rapist? Well that was god's intent so you'd better keep that baby. A bunch of kids get murdered? Well that wasn't god's fault. But that being said, maybe it is society's fault for not embracing christianity in schools. In other words, god didn't protect us because we don't love him enough.

And you wonder why people like me are agnostic...

call it fucked up but I think in situations like this the parents who gave birth to the slimy bastards need to be taken out. They're just as guilty for conceiving this pure filth! Goes for all perpetrators of heinous crimes

eesh Wrote:
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> People with autism or mild autism shouldn't be
> committed. They just need plenty of support and
> possible therapy. It's not like they are
> schizophrenic.

They should simply be terminated before they harm innocent people. Gay people should also be terminated in a similar fashion.

the line of evil runs thru each human heart. i admire the call for mercy, but the internet -- where screeds, insults, curses,put-downs, and 'look at me!' tough guy messages are the major currency -- is not the place to expect a positive reception for such a message. doesn't make your message wrong, however, it just means that the internet is part of the fallen world.

Of course, YOU'RE not part of the "fallen world" are you Charles?

How nice of you to try to spread a little understanding among the heathens.

Maybe some of us will "get it" someday and be able to be as wonderful as you are.

Fucking douche.

au contraire, i've probably fallen lower than most. i'm not holier than thou, that's fer durn shure! sanctimony, i ain't got. perspective? maybe a little bit. thanks for the spirited response, and hold on to that feisty attitude -- it's energetic, i like it, even if the content needs a little polishing.

Fair enough. Accept my apology, please.

I hate the holier than thou hypocrites.

But Charles, you do have perspective and self awareness.

Jacobo Wrote:
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> call it fucked up but I think in situations like
> this the parents who gave birth to the slimy
> bastards need to be taken out. They're just as
> guilty for conceiving this pure filth! Goes for
> all perpetrators of heinous crimes


Darwin would apporve.

KI hope he is in hell and being forced to Listen to Thinkbox's shitty music on repeat for eternity

-SUCKBOX OUT

Yes. Thank you for posting this. I agree. I too am praying for ALL of the victims. The 20 little angels, the 6 brave educators, Adam's mother Nancy and for Adam. I also pray for the families of ALL of the victims - they are the ones who need our prayers the most. The are ALL suffering - including Adam's brother, father, grandmother (who also lost a daughter). If we forgive, love will flourish. If we do not, then it will be hate. I prefer hearts filled with love.

Like Oswald, Lanza is just a patsy.



http://beforeitsnews.com/economics-and-politics/2012/12/2-mass-shootings-connected-to-libor-2447738.html

prayers by a parent Wrote:
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> Yes. Thank you for posting this. I agree. I too
> am praying for ALL of the victims. The 20 little
> angels, the 6 brave educators, Adam's mother Nancy
> and for Adam. I also pray for the families of ALL
> of the victims - they are the ones who need our
> prayers the most. The are ALL suffering -
> including Adam's brother, father, grandmother (who
> also lost a daughter). If we forgive, love will
> flourish. If we do not, then it will be hate. I
> prefer hearts filled with love.

LOL! Like your mutterings are going to make any difference in the universe.

BEH Wrote:
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> prayers by a parent Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Yes. Thank you for posting this. I agree. I
> too
> > am praying for ALL of the victims. The 20
> little
> > angels, the 6 brave educators, Adam's mother
> Nancy
> > and for Adam. I also pray for the families of
> ALL
> > of the victims - they are the ones who need our
> > prayers the most. The are ALL suffering -
> > including Adam's brother, father, grandmother
> (who
> > also lost a daughter). If we forgive, love
> will
> > flourish. If we do not, then it will be hate.
> I
> > prefer hearts filled with love.
>
> LOL! Like your mutterings are going to make any
> difference in the universe.


Interesting repsonse. And you hope to accomplish what exactly with this kind of post? Do you talk like this to people IRL? Why do you feel the need to tear down a positive post with a personal attack? Does it make you feel better somehow? Do you consider yourself to be a contributing member of society? Do you think this post moves this conversation forward?

BEH = Part of the problem with our current devolving society

BEH, no apology necessary. i think we're probably on the same page: what happened is too awful to contemplate, but of course we have to, and so we're faced with having to put our sorrow & anger somewhere. i can tell you are passionate and for the good, so that's all right.

the whole thing is horrible, and i certainly can't make any easy explanation, nor do i have a set of simple answers. it's beyond my ability to interpret, so i just do what i can in trying to understand it. but i really don't.

there's some part of me that keeps looking for a resolution -- oh, he'll burn in hell for what he did, or the laws will change and prevent this again, or at least i can decide whom to blame and thus get some clarity. . . but none of that really works for me. i just feel helpless and clueless about it all.

poor, poor people of newtown, and their friends & families, & on & on. whatever comfort there can be, i hope everyone gets it in whatever form works.

BEH = Part of the problem with our current devolving society


By all means, keep on mumbling your useless prayers, as if that exercise in futility ever changed anything.

While you're at it , update your wish list to Santa.

Glad to see you're fighting the "devolving society" with your snake oils and superstitions.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/21/2012 08:57AM by BEH.

1, How do you know prayers are useless. If they do no more than provide solace and comfort, they do something. Your posts, on the other hand, provide nothing but hate, judgemental attitude and emptiness. Who's offering uselessness here?

2. What have you changed with your hate? Tell us of your great benefits to society that you're accomplished by attacking someone who preaches peace and love.

3. Perhaps you should try to be a little more understanding and kind.

The mother was planning on enrolling him in a college and moving with him to keep an eye on him. Much of the fault lies with her for using the school system as a baby-sitter. You can't keep hiding him in institutions that weren't designed to hold the mentailly ill.

ex-Lester Wrote:
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> The mother was planning on enrolling him in a
> college and moving with him to keep an eye on him.
> Much of the fault lies with her for using the
> school system as a baby-sitter. You can't keep
> hiding him in institutions that weren't designed
> to hold the mentailly ill.


Maybe. But she apparently pulled him out of the baby-sitting public school system and home schooled him starting in 10th grade. So perhaps we should hold off on judging a single mom who gave up much of her life to try and raise a mentally distrubed son because she had run into one roadblock after another from our great, caring society...

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/adam-lanzas-mom-pulled-school-relative/story?id=17985433#.UNSEcK7O98E

Good for the school district. There were conflicting reports she was going to institutionalize him, but they turned out to be false or premature. Now that he had graduated, she appeared to be considering many options for him.

If he is saved, then he would go to Heaven. God wants nobody to parish, but have eternal life.
Its horrible what happened, and I know you guys will hate me, but its possible for him to have been saved, and Go to heaven.

Rob

I don't hate you. I understand your point of view.
But if anyone deserves to rot in hell, it's Adam Lanza.
Save your prayers for those children and their families

God loves every soul the same and wouldn't keep someone out of heaven because they were mentally Ill.

It was particularly sad to only hear the bell at the national cathedral ring 26 times not taking into account his and his mother's souls.

If he has a soul, it will probably be re-cycled into another body that has a better brain and hormonal balance.

By the might and power of Lord Hades, His Bride Persephone, and the Goddess Hecate,
I begin my three night transition tonight,
Into an immortal, ageless vampire, with powers of shapeshifting, regeneration, growing my finger nails into sharp claws that can pierce even steel,
Bind all of these powers permanently to me, make my wish real
By the might and power of Lord Hades, His Bride Persephone and the Goddess Hecate may this be,
I begin my transformation tonight, and in two more nights I shall awake and walk the earth as the new me!

Video games don't make people killers just like porn doesn't make people rape....
But rapists watch porn... See the connection now?

Momma should enroll him in a drone program.

The OP (and MrMephisto) are correct, guys. If you are a Christian, you are called upon to love wastefully, to forgive your transgressors, and to cast aside all thoughts of hatred and vice towards your fellow man. This is even a prominant line in the Lords Prayer - "Forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us." This is what it means to "turn the other cheek". You are called to LOVE Adam Lanza, despite his actions.

If you don't want to accept that, then that's perfectly fine and I understand your reasons. But you find yourselves in the position of Ivan Karamazov... a willful rebellion agaisnt God for the sake of the unexpiated tears of those children who died in suffering and terror, because your sense of what is forgivable cannot be assaged by pious assertions that it is all in his hands.

This state of rebellion is a good thing, I think. It means you are more moral than your god. Remember that god has shown having no real problems with child killing in the past. There is not a single instance in the bible of Satan killing a child, but God ordered (and preformed) the slaughter of scores of children. For instance: The slaughter of the Midianites where he directed the Israelites to "kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves." Kill the boys, rape the girls... basically. How many chilren were killed during Noah's Flood... or during the destruction of Sodom & Grammorah? He killed Job's children in order to test Job's faith. He also demanded that Abraham sacrifice Jacab, and though he pulled back from that - he didn't spare Jephthah's daughter when she was offered up in fulfilment of his obligation to god for helping him defeating the Ammonites. Psalms offers a vision of Israelli recompence against the Babylonians which says they will be blessed when they dash their children against the rocks. Deuteronomy prescribes stoning to death children who disrespect their parents. 2nd Kings also describes an incident in which god sent two bears to maul to death a group of children for the crime of making fun of his prophet's bald head.

(There's also a number of passeges in the non-canonical infancy gospels of Jesus as a child himself killing other children.)

Look... guys. God, does not give a shit about children. Or at least, when he kills them, you're supposed to just accept that they were "wicked" and that their deaths and suffering were justified. Why do Christians accept their deaths with a shrug and say it's not their place to judge the affairs of God, and yet when a man in modern society slaughters 20 children - they cannot bring themselves to accept God's call to love and forgive that man? They will go into open rebellion against god on this issue.

You guys need to sort this shit out, because from the outside it just makes you look like a bunch of hypocrites (who worship a monster).

I will forgive and love this young man with you. As Jesus would have us do.