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UnderTheMattress
Posted by: Alias ()
Date: November 08, 2012 07:46PM

The election is over; socialism has won. Let’s all say a big HELLO to the European stink hole.

But, move forward, we must.

My question goes to tax attorneys or men/women with an expertise in money management.

How does one quietly move assets off-shore?

I understand that cash transactions of 10K must be reported by US banking institutions under anti-laundering laws and that a pattern of transactions to avoid the 10k limit is also monitored....

So, how best to move assets while spacing out transactions to avoid scrutiny?

And, which Caribbean island has the best climate.... these days?

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Re: UnderTheMattress
Posted by: PETA supporter ()
Date: November 08, 2012 08:15PM

I think an animal abuser such as yourself needs psychiatric help.

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Re: UnderTheMattress
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: November 08, 2012 08:20PM

Stop pretending you have wealth, Alias.

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Re: UnderTheMattress
Posted by: Alias ()
Date: November 08, 2012 08:27PM

PETA supporter Wrote:
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> I think an animal abuser such as yourself needs
> psychiatric help.


eesh, everyone here knows I'm a bird rehabber.

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Re: UnderTheMattress
Posted by: PETA supporter ()
Date: November 08, 2012 08:30PM

Alias Wrote:
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> PETA supporter Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I think an animal abuser such as yourself needs
> > psychiatric help.
>
>
> eesh, everyone here knows I'm a bird rehabber.





You steal them from nests and let them starve while you pet them to death.

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Re: UnderTheMattress
Posted by: Death wish ()
Date: November 08, 2012 08:31PM

Alias Wrote:
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> The election is over; socialism has won. Let’s
> all say a big HELLO to the European stink hole.
>
> But, move forward, we must.
>
> My question goes to tax attorneys or men/women
> with an expertise in money management.
>
> How does one quietly move assets off-shore?
>
> I understand that cash transactions of 10K must be
> reported by US banking institutions under
> anti-laundering laws and that a pattern of
> transactions to avoid the 10k limit is also
> monitored....
>
> So, how best to move assets while spacing out
> transactions to avoid scrutiny?
>
> And, which Caribbean island has the best
> climate.... these days?




I hope you get cancer in your ovaries.

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Re: UnderTheMattress
Posted by: The real deal ()
Date: November 08, 2012 08:32PM

Alias is a horrible person that has no worth to anyone. It's why she is all alone at such an advanced age.

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Re: UnderTheMattress
Posted by: Ugghh ()
Date: November 08, 2012 08:33PM

Alias Wrote:
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> The election is over; socialism has won. Let’s
> all say a big HELLO to the European stink hole.
>
> But, move forward, we must.
>
> My question goes to tax attorneys or men/women
> with an expertise in money management.
>
> How does one quietly move assets off-shore?
>
> I understand that cash transactions of 10K must be
> reported by US banking institutions under
> anti-laundering laws and that a pattern of
> transactions to avoid the 10k limit is also
> monitored....
>
> So, how best to move assets while spacing out
> transactions to avoid scrutiny?
>
> And, which Caribbean island has the best
> climate.... these days?



What a fucking bitch.

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Re: UnderTheMattress
Posted by: Parent 22181 ()
Date: November 08, 2012 08:35PM

Alias,

Does your father know what a whore his daughter is?

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Re: UnderTheMattress
Posted by: Alias ()
Date: November 08, 2012 08:40PM

eesh Wrote:
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> Stop pretending you have wealth, Alias.


eesh, wealth is relative.

I know I'm not your buddy, WTL, the billionaire who hates rich people, but I'm not a phony either, and the meager wealth I do have, I want to keep.... so unless you know something about hiding assets, legally, be quiet.

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Re: UnderTheMattress
Posted by: Hawala ()
Date: November 08, 2012 08:41PM

Alias Wrote:
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> My question goes to tax attorneys or men/women
> with an expertise in money management.
>
> How does one quietly move assets off-shore?
>
> So, how best to move assets while spacing out
> transactions to avoid scrutiny?
>

You can do it all in one transaction, but you'll have to admit that islam is great and there is only one god, allah.

It's called Halawa -- you give your money to someone here, and then someone in another county will give you money when you get there. The system works great because no money every actually gets moved. You give, say, $100,000 to the agent. Someone in Saudi Arabia, for example, wants to send $100,000 to the US and gives it to an agent in Saudi Arabia. The agent you gave $100,000 to gives it to the Saudi's recipient here. Someone else in the country you want your cash, say the Bahamas, needs to send $100,000 to someone in Costa Rica, he gives it to an agent in the Bahamas. You get that $100,000.

Make sense? The Arabs are pretty smart.



> And, which Caribbean island has the best
> climate.... these days?


They all have the same climate. All of the Caribbean islands are in the Caribbean.

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Re: UnderTheMattress
Posted by: Alias ()
Date: November 08, 2012 08:45PM

Hawala Wrote:
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> They all have the same climate. All of the
> Caribbean islands are in the Caribbean.


You missed the subtlety of my query, but thank you for your response.

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Re: UnderTheMattress
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: November 08, 2012 09:40PM

Alias Wrote:
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> eesh Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Stop pretending you have wealth, Alias.
>
>
> eesh, wealth is relative.
>
> I know I'm not your buddy, WTL, the billionaire
> who hates rich people, but I'm not a phony either,
> and the meager wealth I do have, I want to
> keep.... so unless you know something about
> hiding assets, legally, be quiet.





I'm sure whatever wealth you do have is because you married into it.

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Re: UnderTheMattress
Posted by: Alias ()
Date: November 09, 2012 12:27AM

eesh Wrote:
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> Alias Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > eesh Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Stop pretending you have wealth, Alias.
> >
> >
> > eesh, wealth is relative.
> >
> > I know I'm not your buddy, WTL, the billionaire
> > who hates rich people, but I'm not a phony
> either,
> > and the meager wealth I do have, I want to
> > keep.... so unless you know something about
> > hiding assets, legally, be quiet.

>
>
>
>
> I'm sure whatever wealth you do have is because
> you married into it.


Ha!

At least whatever I have was earned because I never married the federal government.

Now go do something useful and find me a nice little Caribbean Island that will keep my assets safe for a few years.

Go along now.

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Re: UnderTheMattress
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: November 09, 2012 12:39AM

Alias Wrote:
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>
> Now go do something useful and find me a nice
> little Caribbean Island that will keep my assets
> safe for a few years.




----------> https://www.sogebank.com/ <----------------



It's still quite warm in Port-au-Prince, Alias.


Visit there, move there, stay there.

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Re: UnderTheMattress
Posted by: Alias ()
Date: November 09, 2012 12:56AM

eesh Wrote:
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> Alias Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > Now go do something useful and find me a nice
> > little Caribbean Island that will keep my
> assets
> > safe for a few years.
>
>
>
>
> ----------> https://www.sogebank.com/
> <----------------
>
>
>
> It's still quite warm in Port-au-Prince, Alias.
>
>
> Visit there, move there, stay there.


Actually, I've been there, eesh.

And, just to make it clear, I'm not looking to move to a Caribbean Island; I just want a safe haven for my assets, so your man can't get his greedy little socialist hands on them.

Look, you come up with a good idea, and I'll throw a couple of bucks your way.

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Re: UnderTheMattress
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: November 09, 2012 01:49AM

Alias Wrote:
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>
>
> Actually, I've been there, eesh.







You have never been to Haiti. The only Americans that go to Haiti are part of an NGO or charity. Since you don't have the willpower or capacity to be concerned about other people, I doubt you belong to either.

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Re: UnderTheMattress
Posted by: Alias ()
Date: November 09, 2012 02:08AM

eesh Wrote:
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> Alias Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Actually, I've been there, eesh.

> You have never been to Haiti.

Well, yes I have.

Stop being such a little know-it-all.

> The only Americans
> that go to Haiti are part of an NGO or charity.
> Since you don't have the willpower or capacity to
> be concerned about other people, I doubt you
> belong to either.

What bothers you about me, eesh, is that I have the willpower and the capacity and you don't.

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Re: UnderTheMattress
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: November 09, 2012 02:15AM

1.) You've never been to Haiti. Stop bullshitting. Next you are going to say you have been to Rwanda.


2.) You live between relatives in Richmond and Fairfax area. You live a fantasy life online, I doubt you have the willpower or capacity for a normal, productive life.

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Re: UnderTheMattress
Posted by: Ito ()
Date: November 09, 2012 02:18AM

Alias Wrote:
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> I understand that cash transactions of 10K must be
> reported by US banking institutions under
> anti-laundering laws and that a pattern of
> transactions to avoid the 10k limit is also
> monitored....
>
> So, how best to move assets while spacing out
> transactions to avoid scrutiny?

Alias, you obviously have never made a transaction over $10K. What kind of scrutiny are you trying to avoid?

If its your money and it isn't income, no one would give a shit if you moved it anywhere. You can take a million dollars from one account and open up another account with a million dollars and no one would ever care.

If you are interested in opening an account off-shore, its as easy as opening an account at Wells Fargo.

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+open+up+an+offshore+bank+account

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Re: UnderTheMattress
Posted by: Alias ()
Date: November 09, 2012 03:13AM

Ito Wrote:
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> Alias, you obviously have never made a transaction
> over $10K. What kind of scrutiny are you trying to
> avoid?

Actually, I have, but you sound like another know-it-all eesh.

Tell me why banks are required to report cash transactions over 10K?

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Re: UnderTheMattress
Posted by: Ito ()
Date: November 09, 2012 03:22AM

Alias Wrote:
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> Tell me why banks are required to report cash
> transactions over 10K?

If its your money and you are making a transaction to yourself, why would anyone care? What exactly would someone accuse you of doing?

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Re: UnderTheMattress
Posted by: Alias ()
Date: November 09, 2012 03:36AM

Ito Wrote:
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> Alias Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Tell me why banks are required to report cash
> > transactions over 10K?
>
> If its your money and you are making a transaction
> to yourself, why would anyone care? What exactly
> would someone accuse you of doing?

Just say you don't know the answer and stop with the goddamn fucking bullshit spin.

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Re: UnderTheMattress
Posted by: Ito ()
Date: November 09, 2012 03:39AM

So perhaps you should define exactly what kind of money you are trying to send out of the country without scrutiny. Is this cash income that you have not paid taxes on?

Why would you not want the IRS or FBI to know about this money. If it is money in your account, you do not need to make it a cash transaction.

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Re: UnderTheMattress
Posted by: Alias ()
Date: November 09, 2012 04:04AM

Ito Wrote:
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> So perhaps you should define exactly what kind of
> money you are trying to send out of the country
> without scrutiny. Is this cash income that you
> have not paid taxes on?

None of your beeswax.

> Why would you not want the IRS or FBI to know
> about this money.

None of your beeswax.

> If it is money in your account,
> you do not need to make it a cash transaction.

I don't need to make a cash transaction?

Who the fuck are you to tell me if I do or do not need to make a cash transaction?

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Re: UnderTheMattress
Posted by: Knowing just enough to not know ()
Date: November 09, 2012 10:03AM

Alias Wrote:
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>
> Actually, I have, but you sound like another
> know-it-all eesh.
>
> Tell me why banks are required to report cash
> transactions over 10K?


They are required to report ANY suspicious transaction, and $10k is a threshhold.

The reason is to make it difficult to use undeclared income. If you are a drug dealer it is hard to purchase an automobile or a home with cash because the IRS will be notified that you just spent money you never declared.

If you go into a car dealership and hand them a stack of bills to buy a car, they will report it to the IRS. If your money is "clean", then no big deal. If there is no basis for you to have that money, the IRS will investigate you.

As far as moving money off-shore, unless your money is "dirty" in the sense of how you obtained it, you have nothing to worry about.

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Re: UnderTheMattress
Posted by: Alias ()
Date: November 09, 2012 11:36AM

Knowing just enough to not know Wrote:
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> Alias Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > Actually, I have, but you sound like another
> > know-it-all eesh.
> >
> > Tell me why banks are required to report cash
> > transactions over 10K?
>
>
> They are required to report ANY suspicious
> transaction, and $10k is a threshhold.
>
> The reason is to make it difficult to use
> undeclared income. If you are a drug dealer it is
> hard to purchase an automobile or a home with cash
> because the IRS will be notified that you just
> spent money you never declared.
>
> If you go into a car dealership and hand them a
> stack of bills to buy a car, they will report it
> to the IRS. If your money is "clean", then no big
> deal. If there is no basis for you to have that
> money, the IRS will investigate you.
>
> As far as moving money off-shore, unless your
> money is "dirty" in the sense of how you obtained
> it, you have nothing to worry about.


I understand the reasoning.

My money isn't dirty, but nonetheless, I do not want my activity reported, something Ito was getting all nosy about.

Let me ask you this. If I start taking assets out from wherever at $9,000 a pop, something I have already started doing, how long should I wait between cash withdrawals so as not to make my activity look suspicious?

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Re: UnderTheMattress
Posted by: Conspiranoid? ()
Date: November 09, 2012 11:52AM

Alias Wrote:
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>
>
> I understand the reasoning.
>
> My money isn't dirty, but nonetheless, I do not
> want my activity reported, something Ito was
> getting all nosy about.

Are you one of those people who would rather wait in line at a toll booth so the government can't track you with the ezpass?


>
> Let me ask you this. If I start taking assets out
> from wherever at $9,000 a pop, something I have
> already started doing, how long should I wait
> between cash withdrawals so as not to make my
> activity look suspicious?

There is nothing suspicious about moving your financial assets around, if they are not "ill-gotten" or were reported as income or gains when originally acquired.


Are you afraid that the men in black suits are going to take the time to walk through the woods to your cabin to ask you questions because you are taking your money out of the banks?

Just don't use that money to purchase large amounts of fertilizer and diesel fuel, and you should be okay.

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Re: UnderTheMattress
Posted by: Alias ()
Date: November 09, 2012 04:35PM

Conspiranoid? Wrote:
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>
> Are you one of those people who would rather wait
> in line at a toll booth so the government can't
> track you with the ezpass?

No... I fly through the ezpass lane, trying to get through before the light turns green. It's a little game I play.

> There is nothing suspicious about moving your
> financial assets around, if they are not
> "ill-gotten" or were reported as income or gains
> when originally acquired.

I know. I know. I know. I'm not an idiot.

> Are you afraid that the men in black suits are
> going to take the time to walk through the woods
> to your cabin to ask you questions because you are
> taking your money out of the banks?

Afraid? Three men at my cabin........ just me and three men?

> Just don't use that money to purchase large
> amounts of fertilizer and diesel fuel, and you
> should be okay.

Can I go to Colorado and buy pot?


My reasons for not wanting to trigger a CTR are not the issue. I simply want to know what the law is, as I've been having a difficult time finding accurate info.

My thanks to the poster who emailed me. (smiley face)

So, the CTR is generated if I withdraw 10K. OK, that I knew.

But, the federal law that makes it illegal to attempt to circumvent the CTR is called "structuring". I was calling it something else.

So, if I were to remove 5k today and then 5k on Tuesday, this could theoretically lead to a required disclosure from the bank to the federal government, and I could be found guilty of a felony if I knowingly was attempting to prevent the CTR.

Got it.....

I need to move more slowly.

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Re: UnderTheMattress
Posted by: The More You Know ()
Date: November 09, 2012 05:18PM

Alias Wrote:
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> So, the CTR is generated if I withdraw 10K. OK,
> that I knew.
>
> But, the federal law that makes it illegal to
> attempt to circumvent the CTR is called
> "structuring". I was calling it something else.
>
> So, if I were to remove 5k today and then 5k on
> Tuesday, this could theoretically lead to a
> required disclosure from the bank to the federal
> government, and I could be found guilty of a
> felony if I knowingly was attempting to prevent
> the CTR.
>
> Got it.....
>
> I need to move more slowly.


Or just be sure you have a "valid reason" for doing whatever you are doing.

If you owned an apartment complex, for example, you might need to transfer $5k to the electric company, and another $5k to some other utility. But then you'd be a business and you'd probably have an office of accountants taking care of it anyway.

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Re: UnderTheMattress
Posted by: Alias ()
Date: November 09, 2012 07:38PM

The More You Know Wrote:
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> Or just be sure you have a "valid reason" for
> doing whatever you are doing.

I think I do.. I hope I do.

February 2013
News Release

Alias, a regular and unanimously hated poster at FFXU goes to federal prison on charges of tax evasion and money laundering. Her partner, Salvatore Farinelli, claims they were in the Cayman Islands to participate in a 10K race for breast cancer.

> If you owned an apartment complex, for example,
> you might need to transfer $5k to the electric
> company, and another $5k to some other utility.
> But then you'd be a business and you'd probably
> have an office of accountants taking care of it
> anyway.

I understand.

Generally speaking, I'm not an impulsive person, despite the fact that I used to jump off this 45-50 foot cliff, into a fresh water pond in Haines Falls, NY.

But, before my first jump, I swam around in the pond, checking depth and looking for odd rocks and such. Plus, I watched the locals jumping, and their heads all seemed to surface.

I am not a nut.....

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Re: UnderTheMattress
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: November 09, 2012 07:42PM

Alias Wrote:
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>
> February 2013
> News Release
>
> Alias, a regular and unanimously hated poster at
> FFXU goes to federal prison on charges of tax
> evasion and money laundering. Her partner,
> Salvatore Farinelli, claims they were in the
> Cayman Islands to participate in a 10K race for
> breast cancer.





Everyone could see through this scam as you would never participate in something that requires physical activity.



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Re: UnderTheMattress
Posted by: Alias ()
Date: November 09, 2012 11:23PM

eesh Wrote:
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> picture of enormous woman in a wheelchair.

Ummm, you do realize that I can't give blood because I don't weigh enough.

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Re: UnderTheMattress
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: November 10, 2012 01:08AM

Alias Wrote:
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> eesh Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > picture of enormous woman in a wheelchair.
>
> Ummm, you do realize that I can't give blood
> because I don't weigh enough.




You can't give blood because one of the questions on the interview asks if you were ever a prostitute. Your previous career disqualifies you for life from giving blood.

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Re: UnderTheMattress
Posted by: Alias ()
Date: November 10, 2012 02:19PM

eesh Wrote:
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> Alias Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > eesh Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > picture of enormous woman in a wheelchair.
> >
> > Ummm, you do realize that I can't give blood
> > because I don't weigh enough.
>
>
> You can't give blood because one of the questions
> on the interview asks if you were ever a
> prostitute. Your previous career disqualifies you
> for life from giving blood.


They don't ask that question.

They do ask if you've had sex with a man who has recently or could have recently had sex with a man.

So, you'd probably be disqualified, eesh.

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Re: UnderTheMattress
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: November 10, 2012 04:07PM

Alias Wrote:
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>
> So, you'd probably be disqualified, eesh.






I am permanently disqualified from giving blood because I lived in Germany during the Mad Cow epidemic, and I have been with prostitutes, also in Germany.

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Re: UnderTheMattress
Posted by: Alias ()
Date: November 12, 2012 01:33PM

eesh Wrote:
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> Alias Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------

> I am permanently disqualified from giving blood
> because I lived in Germany during the Mad Cow
> epidemic, and I have been with prostitutes, also
> in Germany.


Gay males are disqualified as are IV drug users.

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Re: UnderTheMattress
Posted by: Blue Suicide ()
Date: November 12, 2012 01:51PM

eesh Wrote:
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> Alias Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > So, you'd probably be disqualified, eesh.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I am permanently disqualified from giving blood
> because I lived in Germany during the Mad Cow
> epidemic, and I have been with prostitutes, also
> in Germany.




This is a crime of moral turpitude.

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Re: UnderTheMattress
Posted by: Not a virgin ()
Date: April 20, 2015 05:57AM

eesh Wrote:
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> Alias Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > So, you'd probably be disqualified, eesh.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I am permanently disqualified from giving blood
> because I lived in Germany during the Mad Cow
> epidemic, and I have been with prostitutes, also
> in Germany.

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