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Is There No End To Conservative Hypocrisy?
Posted by: Is There No End? ()
Date: October 22, 2012 12:33PM

It is everywhere at once.

Foreign policy, taxes, spending, entitlements, Congress, statehouses,
governors,etc.

Have you no sense of decency, Conservatives? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?

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Re: Is There No End To Conservative Hypocrisy?
Posted by: Ralph Pootawn ()
Date: October 22, 2012 12:40PM

Is There No End? Wrote:
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> It is everywhere at once.
>
> Foreign policy, taxes, spending, entitlements,
> Congress, statehouses,
> governors,etc.
>
> Have you no sense of decency, Conservatives? At
> long last, have you left no sense of decency?
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Re: Is There No End To Conservative Hypocrisy?
Posted by: conVince ()
Date: October 22, 2012 12:41PM

As opposed to the head of the DNC and Obama both kriticizing Romney for having offshore investments, when it turned out both of the do as well? If demokrats do it, it isn't hypokrisy? Have you no decency or shame?

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Re: Is There No End To Conservative Hypocrisy?
Posted by: Lt Col Obvious ()
Date: October 22, 2012 12:44PM

No. No, there is not.

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Re: Is There No End To Conservative Hypocrisy?
Posted by: Ito ()
Date: October 22, 2012 01:02PM

There is a difference between having offshore investments and having offshore accounts. Anyone who thinks that the two are equivalent is someone who has never had any investments.

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Re: Is There No End To Conservative Hypocrisy?
Posted by: Enlighten us ()
Date: October 22, 2012 01:51PM

Ito Wrote:
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> There is a difference between having offshore
> investments and having offshore accounts. Anyone
> who thinks that the two are equivalent is someone
> who has never had any investments.


Really? Why don't you explain it then.

Obviously there's a difference in structure but one is not necessarily any more "American" than another and neither necessarily implies evasion.

So...

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Re: Is There No End To Conservative Hypocrisy?
Posted by: Ito ()
Date: October 22, 2012 02:08PM

Read their own promotional material.

https://www.hfsoffshore.com/why-go-offshore.aspx

Secrecy, privacy, immunity from lawsuits, immunity from regulation.

Note this line: "Placing bank and brokerage accounts offshore will keep them off the asset collector's radar screen."

(hint, hint)

https://www.hfsoffshore.com/faq.aspx#whatisatax

What is a Tax Haven (offshore jurisdiction)?
A Tax Haven (also known as an "offshore jurisdiction" or "international financial center") is a country with 2 distinguishing characteristics:

1) The country does not levy taxes on corporate income, personal income, interest income, capital gains, etc. For the person considering going offshore, what this means is that opening a bank account, making investments, forming a corporation or trust will not result in any taxes due to the tax haven country and there will be no requirements to file financial reports or tax returns in the tax haven country.

2) The country has laws, knows as "secrecy laws" or "privacy laws", that forbid banks, brokerages, financial institutions and incorporation services from giving out any information concerning the owner of an account, company or trust.

Some examples of well-known offshore jurisdictions are: The Bahamas, The British Virgin Islands, The Isle of Man, Belize, The Cayman Islands, Antigua, The Turks and Caicos Islands, Panama, Nevis and St. Kitts, Luxembourg, Switzerland, The Seychelles, Hong Kong and Singapore.

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Re: Is There No End To Conservative Hypocrisy?
Posted by: Lefty ()
Date: October 22, 2012 02:11PM

conVince Wrote:
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> As opposed to the head of the DNC and Obama both
> kriticizing Romneyfor having offshore
> investments, when it turned out both of the do as
> well? If demokrats do it, it isn't hypokrisy?
> Have you no decency or shame?

This is why republicans need to learn technology. Spell check is your friend.

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Re: Is There No End To Conservative Hypocrisy?
Posted by: Un-ConVince-d ()
Date: October 22, 2012 02:23PM

Lefty Wrote:
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> conVince Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > As opposed to the head of the DNC and Obama
> both
> > kriticizing Romneyfor having offshore
> > investments, when it turned out both of the do
> as
> > well? If demokrats do it, it isn't hypokrisy?
> > Have you no decency or shame?
>
> This is why republicans need to learn technology.
> Spell check is your friend.

Typical of right-wing nutjobs, ConVince takes great pride in his ignorance.

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Re: Is There No End To Conservative Hypocrisy?
Posted by: Blame Game ()
Date: October 22, 2012 02:26PM

Un-ConVince-d Wrote:
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> Lefty Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > conVince Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > As opposed to the head of the DNC and Obama
> > both
> > > kriticizing Romneyfor having offshore
> > > investments, when it turned out both of the
> do
> > as
> > > well? If demokrats do it, it isn't hypokrisy?
>
> > > Have you no decency or shame?
> >
> > This is why republicans need to learn
> technology.
> > Spell check is your friend.
>
> Typical of right-wing nutjobs, ConVince takes
> great pride in his ignorance.

+1

Just wondering if Romney gets elected will republicans be complaining more?

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Re: Is There No End To Conservative Hypocrisy?
Posted by: 2deep4u ()
Date: October 22, 2012 03:24PM

Lefty Wrote:
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> conVince Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > As opposed to the head of the DNC and Obama
> both
> > kriticizing Romneyfor having offshore
> > investments, when it turned out both of the do
> as
> > well? If demokrats do it, it isn't hypokrisy?
> > Have you no decency or shame?
>
> This is why republicans need to learn technology.
> Spell check is your friend.


And this is why Dems just blindly accept whatever they're told. lmao

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Re: Is There No End To Conservative Hypocrisy?
Posted by: SoylentGreen ()
Date: October 22, 2012 04:17PM

Ito Wrote:
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> Read their own promotional material.
>
> https://www.hfsoffshore.com/why-go-offshore.aspx
>
> Secrecy, privacy, immunity from lawsuits, immunity
> from regulation.
>
> Note this line: "Placing bank and brokerage
> accounts offshore will keep them off the asset
> collector's radar screen."
>
> (hint, hint)
>
> https://www.hfsoffshore.com/faq.aspx#whatisatax
>
> What is a Tax Haven (offshore jurisdiction)?
> A Tax Haven (also known as an "offshore
> jurisdiction" or "international financial center")
> is a country with 2 distinguishing
> characteristics:
>
> 1) The country does not levy taxes on corporate
> income, personal income, interest income, capital
> gains, etc. For the person considering going
> offshore, what this means is that opening a bank
> account, making investments, forming a corporation
> or trust will not result in any taxes due to the
> tax haven country and there will be no
> requirements to file financial reports or tax
> returns in the tax haven country.
>
> 2) The country has laws, knows as "secrecy laws"
> or "privacy laws", that forbid banks, brokerages,
> financial institutions and incorporation services
> from giving out any information concerning the
> owner of an account, company or trust.
>
> Some examples of well-known offshore jurisdictions
> are: The Bahamas, The British Virgin Islands, The
> Isle of Man, Belize, The Cayman Islands, Antigua,
> The Turks and Caicos Islands, Panama, Nevis and
> St. Kitts, Luxembourg, Switzerland, The
> Seychelles, Hong Kong and Singapore.
>
> -----------


Very interesting. Means absolutely nothing without proof that someone, anyone has been either to hide money from the IRS though.

That IS where you were going, yes?

Know what's really interesting though? That offshore anything never came up before this particular election.

I mean.......if it's so shady and evil......why hasn't Congress done something about it before this? Not that they're going to do a thing about it now.

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Re: Is There No End To Conservative Hypocrisy?
Posted by: Slim Shady ()
Date: October 22, 2012 04:37PM

SoylentGreen Wrote:
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> Ito Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Read their own promotional material.
> >
> >
> https://www.hfsoffshore.com/why-go-offshore.aspx
> >
> > Secrecy, privacy, immunity from lawsuits,
> immunity
> > from regulation.
> >
> > Note this line: "Placing bank and brokerage
> > accounts offshore will keep them off the asset
> > collector's radar screen."
> >
> > (hint, hint)
> >
> > https://www.hfsoffshore.com/faq.aspx#whatisatax
> >
> > What is a Tax Haven (offshore jurisdiction)?
> > A Tax Haven (also known as an "offshore
> > jurisdiction" or "international financial
> center")
> > is a country with 2 distinguishing
> > characteristics:
> >
> > 1) The country does not levy taxes on corporate
> > income, personal income, interest income,
> capital
> > gains, etc. For the person considering going
> > offshore, what this means is that opening a
> bank
> > account, making investments, forming a
> corporation
> > or trust will not result in any taxes due to
> the
> > tax haven country and there will be no
> > requirements to file financial reports or tax
> > returns in the tax haven country.
> >
> > 2) The country has laws, knows as "secrecy
> laws"
> > or "privacy laws", that forbid banks,
> brokerages,
> > financial institutions and incorporation
> services
> > from giving out any information concerning the
> > owner of an account, company or trust.
> >
> > Some examples of well-known offshore
> jurisdictions
> > are: The Bahamas, The British Virgin Islands,
> The
> > Isle of Man, Belize, The Cayman Islands,
> Antigua,
> > The Turks and Caicos Islands, Panama, Nevis and
> > St. Kitts, Luxembourg, Switzerland, The
> > Seychelles, Hong Kong and Singapore.
> >
> > -----------
>
>
> Very interesting. Means absolutely nothing
> without proof that someone, anyone has been either
> to hide money from the IRS though.
>
> That IS where you were going, yes?
>
> Know what's really interesting though? That
> offshore anything never came up before this
> particular election.
>
> I mean.......if it's so shady and evil......why
> hasn't Congress done something about it before
> this? Not that they're going to do a thing about
> it now.



Actually it did. It's just a replay of the exact same "evil rich folks with shady offshore accounts" game that Axelrod/Gibbs played against Hillary.


http://articles.cnn.com/2008-03-25/politics/obama.tax.returns_1_tax-returns-senator-obama-senator-clinton?_s=PM:POLITICS

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Re: Is There No End To Conservative Hypocrisy?
Posted by: In plain sight ()
Date: October 22, 2012 05:06PM

Ito Wrote:
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> Read their own promotional material.
>
> https://www.hfsoffshore.com/why-go-offshore.aspx
>


*sigh* So you're basing your point on the web site of somebody selling offshore services? lol


> Secrecy, privacy, immunity from lawsuits, immunity
> from regulation.
>
> Note this line: "Placing bank and brokerage
> accounts offshore will keep them off the asset
> collector's radar screen."
>
> (hint, hint)
>

Hint hint: Asset collector in this sense applies more to debt collectors, lawsuits, divorce attorneys, etc., and do not apply to tax collectors given that they have far greater ability to access such funds even if offshore and less need to do so since they can attach local assets.



>
> What is a Tax Haven (offshore jurisdiction)?
> A Tax Haven (also known as an "offshore
> jurisdiction" or "international financial center")
> is a country with 2 distinguishing
> characteristics:
>
> 1) The country does not levy taxes on corporate
> income, personal income, interest income, capital
> gains, etc. For the person considering going
> offshore, what this means is that opening a bank
> account, making investments, forming a corporation
> or trust will not result in any taxes due to the
> tax haven country and there will be no
> requirements to file financial reports or tax
> returns in the tax haven country.


Correct. Which means that the OFFSHORE country where the company is based does not levy tax. NOT that the LOCAL country where an investor may be located and the country where assets/income may reside/result, which typically are not one in the same, can't tax it.


> 2) The country has laws, knows as "secrecy laws"
> or "privacy laws", that forbid banks, brokerages,
> financial institutions and incorporation services
> from giving out any information concerning the
> owner of an account, company or trust.
>
> Some examples of well-known offshore jurisdictions
> are: The Bahamas, The British Virgin Islands, The
> Isle of Man, Belize, The Cayman Islands, Antigua,
> The Turks and Caicos Islands, Panama, Nevis and
> St. Kitts, Luxembourg, Switzerland, The
> Seychelles, Hong Kong and Singapore.
>

Yes. Except in cases of money laundering and tax evasion given related treaties that now exist between most of these countries and the rest of the world. It's not the 1970s any more. All of these countries need access to central banks and international banking systems in order to operate and they cannot without complying with related requirements in such treaties (witness the Swiss for example as in recent news).

There are LEGAL ways to shelter income that you may have issues with but, by definition, they are legal and are used to some degree and in some form by virtually every company with an international presence. Even the activists who focus on such issues don't concern themselves much these days with hiding money as they do in addressing the legal structures.

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Re: Is There No End To Conservative Hypocrisy?
Posted by: ferfux ()
Date: October 22, 2012 06:22PM

Is There No End? Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> It is everywhere at once.
>
> Foreign policy, taxes, spending, entitlements,
> Congress, statehouses,
> governors,etc.
>
> Have you no sense of decency, Conservatives? At
> long last, have you left no sense of decency?


no

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Re: Is There No End To Conservative Hypocrisy?
Posted by: A Reader ()
Date: October 22, 2012 07:36PM

Is There No End? Wrote:
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> Have you no sense of decency, Conservatives? At
> long last, have you left no sense of decency?

Two "decent" liberals did this to a conservative because he was protecting his free political speech.



http://www.nbc15.com/home/headlines/Son-of-State-Senator-Neal-Kedzie-Attacked-175307881.html

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Re: Is There No End To Conservative Hypocrisy?
Posted by: Decent Liberal ()
Date: October 22, 2012 07:47PM

Grizzly Adams got his ass whooped by a couple LibTards?

Based on the meth addict pox marked face, the sketchy Civil War beard, the upper and lower Copenhagen dip lips, and the Deliverance mongoloid eyes...I'd say he deserved a good old fashioned mountain man ass whoopin.

Where can I send a congratulatory letter to the Cheeseheads who put him in his place?

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Re: Is There No End To Conservative Hypocrisy?
Posted by: Typical Libturds ()
Date: October 22, 2012 08:56PM

"The individual returned the sign, however, a second person confronted and attacked Sean without warning."

Typical move for gay negros.

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Re: Is There No End To Conservative Hypocrisy?
Posted by: Typical Conturd ()
Date: October 22, 2012 09:19PM

Typical Libturds Wrote:
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> "The individual returned the sign, however, a
> second person confronted and attacked Sean without
> warning."
>
> Typical move for gay negros.

Spend a lot of time getting fucked by gay negroes, do you?

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