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Did you know that one-third of children in Ohio are enrolled in Medicaid? Neither did I, until last week when I picked up a copy of the Bucyrus (Ohio) Telegraph-Forum and read down to the seventh paragraph of a story headlined, "Study says more children have health insurance."

The positive spin in the headline was undercut by the statistical facts of the story: "The increase in children on insurance comes as median incomes across the state were relatively flat, and the percentage of families in poverty -- especially those with children -- rose slightly." An increase in poverty, in other words, actually reduced the number of uninsured children by qualifying them for coverage under a government program for the poor. Such was the substance of the explanation by Angela Krile, spokeswoman for the Ohio Children's Hospital Association, who said: "Really, this just shows the importance of Medicaid in our state for children."

Americans have become accustomed to this sort of "good news" in the Obama era, and there was more of it in that small-town Ohio paper. "Unemployment remains the same," declared the headline across the top of the front page. The story explained that, although the official unemployment rate in Crawford County, Ohio (population 43,389) declined from 9 percent in July to 8 percent in August, it wasn't because more people were working. "Since the number of employed stayed the same, 200 people went off of unemployment because their time limit is up and they have not found work yet," Dave Williamson, director of the Crawford County Economic Development Partnership, told the Bucyrus paper. "We have no more people working than we did last month."

http://spectator.org/archives/2012/10/03/whatever-happened-to-truth

Obama is strange. He believes the greatness of a nation can be measured by the huge amounts of people we have on welfare to show how much we care.

Obama is winning in the polls because the Republican party does not meet the ideals and goals of what the average American wants.

Essentially, people would rather stick with a mediocre president than a candidate that is out of touch wthe direction, morals and goals of the average citizen.ith

If I was as rich as Honey Boo Boo's mom, I'd also be doing a retarded, inbred, happy dance.

WingNut Wrote:
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> FRom RealClearPolitics.com
>
> Did you know that one-third of children in Ohio
> are enrolled in Medicaid? Neither did I, until
> last week when I picked up a copy of the Bucyrus
> (Ohio) Telegraph-Forum and read down to the
> seventh paragraph of a story headlined, "Study
> says more children have health insurance."
>
> The positive spin in the headline was undercut by
> the statistical facts of the story: "The increase
> in children on insurance comes as median incomes
> across the state were relatively flat, and the
> percentage of families in poverty -- especially
> those with children -- rose slightly." An increase
> in poverty, in other words, actually reduced the
> number of uninsured children by qualifying them
> for coverage under a government program for the
> poor. Such was the substance of the explanation by
> Angela Krile, spokeswoman for the Ohio Children's
> Hospital Association, who said: "Really, this just
> shows the importance of Medicaid in our state for
> children."
>
> Americans have become accustomed to this sort of
> "good news" in the Obama era, and there was more
> of it in that small-town Ohio paper. "Unemployment
> remains the same," declared the headline across
> the top of the front page. The story explained
> that, although the official unemployment rate in
> Crawford County, Ohio (population 43,389) declined
> from 9 percent in July to 8 percent in August, it
> wasn't because more people were working. "Since
> the number of employed stayed the same, 200 people
> went off of unemployment because their time limit
> is up and they have not found work yet," Dave
> Williamson, director of the Crawford County
> Economic Development Partnership, told the Bucyrus
> paper. "We have no more people working than we
> did last month."
>
> http://spectator.org/archives/2012/10/03/whatever-
> happened-to-truth


Because it isn't true....But maybe in the republican alternate universe it is...


http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/may/12/sherrod-brown/sherrod-brown-says-elderly-account-two-thirds-medi/

Media failure! better call Foxnews, Drudge, NRO and Newsmax tell them to get their act together,

Hoho Wrote:
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> Obama is winning in the polls because the
> Republican party does not meet the ideals and
> goals of what the average American wants.


Pictured below is todays average American. What has become of America is the majority would rather live in substandard condtions and not have to work then get off their ass and make something of themselves and stop leeching off others.
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mr green Wrote:
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> Hoho Wrote:
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> > Obama is winning in the polls because the
> > Republican party does not meet the ideals and
> > goals of what the average American wants.
>
>
> Pictured below is todays average American. What
> has become of America is the majority would rather
> live in substandard condtions and not have to work
> then get off their ass and make something of
> themselves and stop leeching off others.

gameover Wrote:
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> WingNut Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > FRom RealClearPolitics.com
> >
> > Did you know that one-third of children in
> Ohio
> > are enrolled in Medicaid? Neither did I,
> until
> > last week when I picked up a copy of the
> Bucyrus
> > (Ohio) Telegraph-Forum and read down to the
> > seventh paragraph of a story headlined, "Study
> > says more children have health insurance."
> >
> > The positive spin in the headline was undercut
> by
> > the statistical facts of the story: "The
> increase
> > in children on insurance comes as median
> incomes
> > across the state were relatively flat, and the
> > percentage of families in poverty -- especially
> > those with children -- rose slightly." An
> increase
> > in poverty, in other words, actually reduced
> the
> > number of uninsured children by qualifying them
> > for coverage under a government program for the
> > poor. Such was the substance of the explanation
> by
> > Angela Krile, spokeswoman for the Ohio
> Children's
> > Hospital Association, who said: "Really, this
> just
> > shows the importance of Medicaid in our state
> for
> > children."
> >
> > Americans have become accustomed to this sort
> of
> > "good news" in the Obama era, and there was
> more
> > of it in that small-town Ohio paper.
> "Unemployment
> > remains the same," declared the headline across
> > the top of the front page. The story explained
> > that, although the official unemployment rate
> in
> > Crawford County, Ohio (population 43,389)
> declined
> > from 9 percent in July to 8 percent in August,
> it
> > wasn't because more people were working. "Since
> > the number of employed stayed the same, 200
> people
> > went off of unemployment because their time
> limit
> > is up and they have not found work yet," Dave
> > Williamson, director of the Crawford County
> > Economic Development Partnership, told the
> Bucyrus
> > paper. "We have no more people working than
> we
> > did last month."
> >
> >
> http://spectator.org/archives/2012/10/03/whatever-
>
> > happened-to-truth
>
>
> Because it isn't true....But maybe in the
> republican alternate universe it is...
>
>
> http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements
> /2011/may/12/sherrod-brown/sherrod-brown-says-elde
> rly-account-two-thirds-medi/


Do you read the info that is supposed to back up your claim? The factchecker calls the democrat out for his lie...

All told, 68.2 million individuals used Medicaid in 2010. Of that 5.8 million were "aged" -- 65 and older -- while 33.9 million were children. An additional 9 million are counted separately as recipients of the State Children’s Health Insurance Program of SCHIP. (Children are the predominant beneficiaries of SCHIP, though this figure also includes some adults covered under waivers; we’ll ignore that in our calculations.)

So 8.5 percent of Medicaid's beneficiaries are aged, and 63 percent are children. That means Brown is quite close on the percentage of beneficiaries who are children, but too low for the percentage of beneficiaries who are elderly.

If Brown had adjusted his statement to "elderly, blind or disabled," he would have been closer. Adding those categories together gets the figure to 24 percent, although even that’s well below the one-third Brown stated.

Fact: There are only 4.4 million Americans on Welfare which is less than 2% of the US Population.

That number is little changed over the years regardless of whether Republicans or Democrats are in charge.

Fact: About 8% of the population receives other forms of Federal Government support in the form income, housing, and food aid.

Again, a fairly constant percentage of the population, though it has gone up some since the Great Bush Recession.

Fact: The remainder of the population on Federal support is about 37%, and they are elderly, infirm, veterans, etc. receiving Social Security, and other forms of support.

We have an obligation to take care of these people who paid into the system or sacrificed for America by serving their country.

Scary that so many people skipped junior high school civics class, don't understand simple basic facts about their own Government, and yet they still get to vote for retarded Republicans.
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More dim dems Wrote:
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> gameover Wrote:
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> > WingNut Wrote:
> >
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> > -----
> > > FRom RealClearPolitics.com
> > >
> > > Did you know that one-third of children in
> > Ohio
> > > are enrolled in Medicaid? Neither did I,
> > until
> > > last week when I picked up a copy of the
> > Bucyrus
> > > (Ohio) Telegraph-Forum and read down to the
> > > seventh paragraph of a story headlined,
> "Study
> > > says more children have health insurance."
> > >
> > > The positive spin in the headline was
> undercut
> > by
> > > the statistical facts of the story: "The
> > increase
> > > in children on insurance comes as median
> > incomes
> > > across the state were relatively flat, and
> the
> > > percentage of families in poverty --
> especially
> > > those with children -- rose slightly." An
> > increase
> > > in poverty, in other words, actually reduced
> > the
> > > number of uninsured children by qualifying
> them
> > > for coverage under a government program for
> the
> > > poor. Such was the substance of the
> explanation
> > by
> > > Angela Krile, spokeswoman for the Ohio
> > Children's
> > > Hospital Association, who said: "Really, this
> > just
> > > shows the importance of Medicaid in our state
> > for
> > > children."
> > >
> > > Americans have become accustomed to this sort
> > of
> > > "good news" in the Obama era, and there was
> > more
> > > of it in that small-town Ohio paper.
> > "Unemployment
> > > remains the same," declared the headline
> across
> > > the top of the front page. The story
> explained
> > > that, although the official unemployment rate
> > in
> > > Crawford County, Ohio (population 43,389)
> > declined
> > > from 9 percent in July to 8 percent in
> August,
> > it
> > > wasn't because more people were working.
> "Since
> > > the number of employed stayed the same, 200
> > people
> > > went off of unemployment because their time
> > limit
> > > is up and they have not found work yet," Dave
> > > Williamson, director of the Crawford County
> > > Economic Development Partnership, told the
> > Bucyrus
> > > paper. "We have no more people working
> than
> > we
> > > did last month."
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://spectator.org/archives/2012/10/03/whatever-
>
> >
> > > happened-to-truth
> >
> >
> > Because it isn't true....But maybe in the
> > republican alternate universe it is...
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements
>
> >
> /2011/may/12/sherrod-brown/sherrod-brown-says-elde
>
> > rly-account-two-thirds-medi/
>
>
> Do you read the info that is supposed to back up
> your claim? The factchecker calls the democrat out
> for his lie...
>
> All told, 68.2 million individuals used Medicaid
> in 2010. Of that 5.8 million were "aged" -- 65 and
> older -- while 33.9 million were children. An
> additional 9 million are counted separately as
> recipients of the State Children’s Health
> Insurance Program of SCHIP. (Children are the
> predominant beneficiaries of SCHIP, though this
> figure also includes some adults covered under
> waivers; we’ll ignore that in our
> calculations.)
>
> So 8.5 percent of Medicaid's beneficiaries are
> aged, and 63 percent are children. That means
> Brown is quite close on the percentage of
> beneficiaries who are children, but too low for
> the percentage of beneficiaries who are elderly.
>
> If Brown had adjusted his statement to "elderly,
> blind or disabled," he would have been closer.
> Adding those categories together gets the figure
> to 24 percent, although even that’s well below
> the one-third Brown stated.

elderly, blind or disabled...cut them off...leaches

No one is pushing to eliminate medicare, medicaid or welfare..

The issue is how many people are NEED these programs under Obama's confused economic policies and a media that somehow doesn't give a fuck.

WingNut Wrote:
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> No one is pushing to eliminate medicare, medicaid
> or welfare..
>
> The issue is how many people are NEED these
> programs under Obama's confused economic policies
> and a media that somehow doesn't give a fuck.

But this argument is pretty much irrelevant when you consider that we have such a high number of retirees and people with low income jobs or no jobs at all.

Pointing out that people are poor and are barely able to eat is not going to win you the hearts and minds of the people.

I really don't get this rationale of the Republican Party during this election. Everyone knows that the economy sucks. Going around stigmatizing people who are suffering is not the answer people are looking for.

The explanation needs to be how you get people off of these programs. It starts with restoring the finances of the middle class -- the real job creators.

When you are a small business man, you need to take out loans to start a business. But if your collateral is in your home and that home is worth almost nothing, banks won't loan you money.

Romney needs to explain how he is going to get banks loaning to people again. How he is going to get the small business engine running again.

All of this complaining about people living on handouts stuff is the worst form of class warfare -- the well off complaining about the poor.

Pointing that more people need public assistance under the failure of Obamanomics is something the media is refusing to do.

The media prefers to ignore the bleak situation or find a glass half full viewpoint.

Class warfare has been the weapon of choice of Obama. He is constantly blaming the wealthy and "low taxes" for a lack of jobs.

But that's MY point. Why play into this game?

Its not about where the income distribution lies and who are suffering. Its about how you fix the problem. That is the thing people want to hear from the challenger.

Klass Warfare Wrote:
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> Pointing that more people need public assistance
> under the failure of Obamanomics is something the
> media is refusing to do.

What are you talking about, foxnews is yapping about it all the time....

More armed forces have died in Afghanistan under Obama.

Never a blip from the media questioning this war.

Barack Obama promised to end detention at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba and did not.

He has also used unmanned drones to perform government sanctioned killings of accused terrorists without trial.

Better than Bush?

Droning On and On Wrote:
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> Barack Obama promised to end detention at
> Guantanamo Bay, Cuba and did not.
>
> He has also used unmanned drones to perform
> government sanctioned killings of accused
> terrorists without trial.
>
> Better than Bush?


Remember all those citizens Bush killed with drones and no arrest/trial?

const Wrote:
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> Droning On and On Wrote:
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> > Barack Obama promised to end detention at
> > Guantanamo Bay, Cuba and did not.
> >
> > He has also used unmanned drones to perform
> > government sanctioned killings of accused
> > terrorists without trial.
> >
> > Better than Bush?
>
>
> Remember all those citizens Bush killed with
> drones and no arrest/trial?


Remember how Obama changed who's counted as combatants/collaterals for his drone attacks?

Waht ever became of the promise for a more transparent government and posting legislation on the internet?

Transparency Anyone Wrote:
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> Waht ever became of the promise for a more
> transparent government and posting legislation on
> the internet?

That has been available for many, many years... http://www.thomas.gov/

The transparent government part could be argued for the Executive branch, but not as far as what laws are being deliberated. Enjoy reading though... Some of these bills are 300,000 pages.

Ito Wrote:
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> Transparency Anyone Wrote:
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> > Waht ever became of the promise for a more
> > transparent government and posting legislation
> on
> > the internet?
>
> That has been available for many, many years...
> http://www.thomas.gov/
>
> The transparent government part could be argued
> for the Executive branch, but not as far as what
> laws are being deliberated. Enjoy reading
> though... Some of these bills are 300,000 pages.


False, Ito. While Thomas has been available for many years. Many times it takes more than 72 hours for them to update the status and most recent version of a bill. If a bill is passed with multiple amendments on one or both floors of Congress, the final version may not be available online for many days after that.

Details were supposde to be posted before legislation was to be signed.

Another broken promise.

veal cutlet Wrote:
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> If I was as rich as Honey Boo Boo's mom, I'd also
> be doing a retarded, inbred, happy dance.

You dont honestly think they will have that money when the show ends its run. Poor trash doenst know how to invest or even care. They know after all is said and done they can go broke and the government will dole out some more welfare money to them.

Tough Questions Wrote:
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> More armed forces have died in Afghanistan under
> Obama.
>
> Never a blip from the media questioning this war.


Fast and Furious what? Selling guns to Mexican gangs? Murders by the scores using guns supplied by the U S government? Only Telemundo asked that question of Obama who prompty blamed Bush.
In the end Eric Holder was allowed to investigate himself for any wrong doing and found himself innocent of all charges.

barry usa Wrote:
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> Tough Questions Wrote:
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> > More armed forces have died in Afghanistan
> under
> > Obama.
> >
> > Never a blip from the media questioning this
> war.
>
>
> Fast and Furious what? Selling guns to Mexican
> gangs? Murders by the scores using guns supplied
> by the U S government? Only Telemundo asked that
> question of Obama who prompty blamed Bush.
> In the end Eric Holder was allowed to investigate
> himself for any wrong doing and found himself
> innocent of all charges.

Because it would hurt Obama and it was "mostly" Mexicans who died.