Here’s my gut belief: Obama got a leg up by being admitted to both Occidental and Columbia as a foreign exchange student. He was raised as a young boy in Indonesia. But did his mother ever change him back to a U.S. citizen? When he returned to live with his grandparents in Hawaii or as he neared college-age preparing to apply to schools, did he ever change his citizenship back? I’m betting not.

If you could unseal Obama’s Columbia University records I believe you’d find that:

A) He rarely ever attended class.

B) His grades were not those typical of what we understand it takes to get into Harvard Law School.

C) He attended Columbia as a foreign exchange student.

D) He paid little for either undergraduate college or Harvard Law School because of foreign aid and scholarships given to a poor foreign students like this kid Barry Soetoro from Indonesia.

If you think I’m “fishing” then prove me wrong. Open up your records Mr. President. What are you afraid of?

http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/obama%E2%80%99s-college-classmate-the-obama-scandal-is-at-columbia/

WAYNE ALLYN ROOT Wrote:
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> Here’s my gut belief: Obama got a leg up by
> being admitted to both Occidental and Columbia as
> a foreign exchange student. He was raised as a
> young boy in Indonesia. But did his mother ever
> change him back to a U.S. citizen? When he
> returned to live with his grandparents in Hawaii
> or as he neared college-age preparing to apply to
> schools, did he ever change his citizenship back?
> I’m betting not.
>
> If you could unseal Obama’s Columbia University
> records I believe you’d find that:
>
> A) He rarely ever attended class.
>
> B) His grades were not those typical of what we
> understand it takes to get into Harvard Law
> School.
>
> C) He attended Columbia as a foreign exchange
> student.
>
> D) He paid little for either undergraduate
> college or Harvard Law School because of foreign
> aid and scholarships given to a poor foreign
> students like this kid Barry Soetoro from
> Indonesia.
>
> If you think I’m “fishing” then prove me
> wrong. Open up your records Mr. President. What
> are you afraid of?
>
> http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/obama%E2%80%
> 99s-college-classmate-the-obama-scandal-is-at-colu
> mbia/

Yeah!

It's rumoured that his grades were long ago secreted to a hidden vault within the Bunnyman Bridge in Clifton, Virginia.

Not that I'm a fan of Obama, but I am a fan of accuracy when calling others on the carpet.

I'm not sure about where you went to college, but none of my college transcripts show the numbers of classroom sessions I attended. All that's there are the grades I received for the semester and GPA.

Everything else is probably spot on. Wasn't it Obama who said that "the only people who don't want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide"? Yeah, I thought that was him.

How dare you question the Dear Leader. Report to the re-education camp at once.
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His records have been public for a while. This is the same shit from people who brought you "birthers."

The same group that don't believe Obama's birth certificate has been released to the public.

Mitt Romney Wrote:
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> WAYNE ALLYN ROOT Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Here’s my gut belief: Obama got a leg up by
> > being admitted to both Occidental and Columbia
> as
> > a foreign exchange student. He was raised as a
> > young boy in Indonesia. But did his mother ever
> > change him back to a U.S. citizen? When he
> > returned to live with his grandparents in
> Hawaii
> > or as he neared college-age preparing to apply
> to
> > schools, did he ever change his citizenship
> back?
> > I’m betting not.
> >
> > If you could unseal Obama’s Columbia
> University
> > records I believe you’d find that:
> >
> > A) He rarely ever attended class.
> >
> > B) His grades were not those typical of what
> we
> > understand it takes to get into Harvard Law
> > School.
> >
> > C) He attended Columbia as a foreign exchange
> > student.
> >
> > D) He paid little for either undergraduate
> > college or Harvard Law School because of
> foreign
> > aid and scholarships given to a poor foreign
> > students like this kid Barry Soetoro from
> > Indonesia.
> >
> > If you think I’m “fishing” then prove me
> > wrong. Open up your records Mr. President. What
> > are you afraid of?
> >
> >
> http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/obama%E2%80%
>
> >
> 99s-college-classmate-the-obama-scandal-is-at-colu
>
> > mbia/
>
> Yeah!


If there weren't dumb people, Wayne Allyn Root would have no customers for his gambling tips OR this idiotic political commentary. He's an idiot. As is the OP.

No Secrets Wrote:
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> His records have been public for a while. This is
> the same shit from people who brought you
> "birthers."
>
> The same group that don't believe Obama's birth
> certificate has been released to the public.

Please link to his college records.

In late 1988, Obama entered Harvard Law School. He was selected as an editor of the Harvard Law Review at the end of his first year, and president of the journal in his second year. During his summers, he returned to Chicago, where he worked as an associate at the law firms of Sidley Austin in 1989 and Hopkins & Sutter in 1990.

After graduating with a J.D. magna cum laude from Harvard in 1991, he returned to Chicago. Obama's election as the first black president of the Harvard Law Review gained national media attention and led to a publishing contract and advance for a book about race relations, which evolved into a personal memoir. The manuscript was published in mid-1995 as Dreams from My Father.

Teachy Wrote:
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> In late 1988, Obama entered Harvard Law School. He
> was selected as an editor of the Harvard Law
> Review at the end of his first year, and president
> of the journal in his second year. During his
> summers, he returned to Chicago, where he worked
> as an associate at the law firms of Sidley Austin
> in 1989 and Hopkins & Sutter in 1990.
>
> After graduating with a J.D. magna cum laude from
> Harvard in 1991, he returned to Chicago. Obama's
> election as the first black president of the
> Harvard Law Review gained national media attention
> and led to a publishing contract and advance for a
> book about race relations, which evolved into a
> personal memoir. The manuscript was published in
> mid-1995 as Dreams from My Father.

What were his grades?

Did he receive help from affirmative action?

As an attorney, what were his landmark cases and his important written opinions?

What does this have to do with the US economy? With Romney's crappy tax plans?

"He was selected as an editor of the Harvard Law Review at the end of his first year, and president of the journal in his second year"

Probably used the same criteria that were later used to select him for the Nobel Peace Prize.

WOWBama Wrote:
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> What does this have to do with the US economy?


About as much as Mitt Romney's tax returns. Besides, do you really want this election to be about the economy? If it is, Obama loses.

Of course Obama is a liar and a con-artist, and yes he should release his records. He never will because of the reasons Mr. Root listed.

The bogus poorly forged birth certificate, no problem, the Connecticut SS number, no problem, the forged and back-dated Selective Service Registration, no problem. Obama is untouchable. Throw the race card, offer a bribe, and if that doesn’t work, either a veiled or not so veiled threat.

Father is entered as being from Kenya which at the time of Barrys birth wasnt even called Kenya.

Just going to Occidental (and later Columbia on top) is enough to label him as a pinko commie socialist marxist. lol

Who the hell else goes there?

.
Attachments:

A test for President Obama:

1. Define "shovel ready jobs." Provide three examples.

2. How many jobs were "saved" by the trillion dollar stimulus spending? List 5% of the jobs included in this number.

3. How many jobs were "created" by the stimulus spending? List 5% of the jobs included in this number.

4. Math question: Add together the number of jobs in #2 and #3, and subtract those that go away once Federal spending for them stops. How many remain?

Bonus: During the Obama years, how many people gave up trying to find work and are now not included in the published unemployment numbers?

His grades were stabbed away behind a 7-11 in Rose Hill.

WAYNE ALLYN ROOT Wrote:
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> Here’s my gut belief: Obama got a leg up by
> being admitted to both Occidental and Columbia as
> a foreign exchange student. He was raised as a
> young boy in Indonesia. But did his mother ever
> change him back to a U.S. citizen? When he
> returned to live with his grandparents in Hawaii
> or as he neared college-age preparing to apply to
> schools, did he ever change his citizenship back?
> I’m betting not.
>

Having been born in Hawaii (remember that?), his US citizenship is permamnent until such time as, while being an adult, he voluntarily goes through the formal procedures to renounce it. It's not like registering a car. But then the O-Haters ard just so incredibly stupid that they'd believe it if some schmuck like Beck was to tell them that it was.

Everything! If Millionaires don't pay their taxes, the goverment doesn't collect enough revenue to pay their bills and we end up borrowing money from China. Duh.

Maybe he did pay his taxes, if so I'd like to know. I don't need to know all the info within the tax returns (I do that on a daily bases as I am an accountant).

But since the government almost "shut down" twice this year, it has a lot more to do with the economy than college transcripts.

Also, I'd like all medical doctors to release their class rank. Maybe your doctor graduated last in his/her class. But he/she is still an MD, so does it ultimately matter?

PasserBy Wrote:
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> WAYNE ALLYN ROOT Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Here’s my gut belief: Obama got a leg up by
> > being admitted to both Occidental and Columbia
> as
> > a foreign exchange student. He was raised as a
> > young boy in Indonesia. But did his mother ever
> > change him back to a U.S. citizen? When he
> > returned to live with his grandparents in
> Hawaii
> > or as he neared college-age preparing to apply
> to
> > schools, did he ever change his citizenship
> back?
> > I’m betting not.
> >
>
> Having been born in Hawaii (remember that?), his
> US citizenship is permamnent until such time as,
> while being an adult, he voluntarily goes through
> the formal procedures to renounce it. It's not
> like registering a car. But then the O-Haters ard
> just so incredibly stupid that they'd believe it
> if some schmuck like Beck was to tell them that it
> was.


Jebus, Libs are dumb. Nowhere in the message you quoted did it indicate that Obama lost his US citizenship. All it is saying is that he used his Indonesian citizenship for advantageous purposes is college applications.

The sad thing here is that you thought your post actually made you look smart. It accomplished just the opposite. Are all Obamaniacs as dumb as you?

How? Wrote:
>
> As an attorney, what were his landmark cases and
> his important written opinions?
>

LOL!!! Attorneys don't write opinions...judges do. Appellate judges. The stupidity just goes on and on and on...

PasserBy Wrote:
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> How? Wrote:
> >
> > As an attorney, what were his landmark cases
> and
> > his important written opinions?
> >
>
> LOL!!! Attorneys don't write opinions...judges do.
> Appellate judges. The stupidity just goes on and
> on and on...


Actually, some attorneys do write opnions. They are called opinion letters and are a standard practice among most competent attorneys.

You aren't too bright, are you? You are right about one thing, your stupidity does go on and on....

Teachy Wrote:
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> In late 1988, Obama entered Harvard Law School. He
> was selected as an editor of the Harvard Law
> Review at the end of his first year, and president
> of the journal in his second year. During his
> summers, he returned to Chicago, where he worked
> as an associate at the law firms of Sidley Austin
> in 1989 and Hopkins & Sutter in 1990.
>
> After graduating with a J.D. magna cum laude from
> Harvard in 1991, he returned to Chicago. Obama's
> election as the first black president of the
> Harvard Law Review gained national media attention
> and led to a publishing contract and advance for a
> book about race relations, which evolved into a
> personal memoir. The manuscript was published in
> mid-1995 as Dreams from My Father.

Here's a nice rebuttal on what you wrote above. Of course, given the source, some folks might automatically dismiss it. However, there are valid questions raised that address some of what you highlighted above.

There's also that part about his publisher's bio stating Obama was Kenyan born. Of course, that's probably not something I would worry about, I mean, if my literary agent described me as having been born in Brazil, I probably wouldn't correct it for 15+ years either.

AND...

E) He never paid taxes for those 10 years!

Oh wait, that's the more important issue of Romney and his tax returns.

Off Topic...now you get this!

Obama Test Wrote:
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> 1. Define "shovel ready jobs." Provide three
> examples.
>

Shovel-ready jobs are those that are pipelined to the point where they can't go further without funding. There were more than 90,000 of them. Go to recovery.gov and put in your zip code to see the ones nearest you.


> 2. How many jobs were "saved" by the trillion
> dollar stimulus spending? List 5% of the jobs
> included in this number.
>

A little better than three million jobs were present in the economy at the end of 2010 that would not have been but for the stimulus bill. Pretty much every public and private sector analysis is in that ballpark. But you can't tell which jobs they were any more than you could tell which children didn't get polio because of those vaccines. Is that too complicated for you?

>
> 4. Math question: Add together the number of jobs
> in #2 and #3, and subtract those that go away once
> Federal spending for them stops. How many
> remain?
>

Seems like quite a few as employment is actually up by about 4.3 million since the recession lows were reached.

>
> Bonus: During the Obama years, how many people
> gave up trying to find work and are now not
> included in the published unemployment numbers?
>

This is a joke, right? People not looking for work have NEVER been counted as unemployed. The long-term trend for the labor force is meanwhile down as more and more baby boomers retire. In the short-term, it either goes up a bit, down a bit, or stays about the same each month. Those are the only three things it can do. So far this year, it has gone up in Jan, Feb, May, and Jun, and it has gone down in Mar, Apr, and Jul. The net change for the first seven months of the year is +1,126K. Get a grip.

PasserBy Wrote:
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> Obama Test Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > 1. Define "shovel ready jobs." Provide three
> > examples.
> >
>
> Shovel-ready jobs are those that are pipelined to
> the point where they can't go further without
> funding.

Wrong. Your definition does not take into account at what stage the project is in - planning, zoning, architecture, etc. Shovel ready means that the project is at the point that laborors can begin actual project execution IMMEDIATELY if the funding is there.

> There were more than 90,000 of them. Go
> to recovery.gov and put in your zip code to see
> the ones nearest you.

Obama even admitted they were scarce:



You are making this too easy.

Bystandering Wrote:
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>
> Jebus, Libs are dumb. Nowhere in the message you
> quoted did it indicate that Obama lost his US
> citizenship. All it is saying is that he used his
> Indonesian citizenship for advantageous purposes
> is college applications.
>
> The sad thing here is that you thought your post
> actually made you look smart. It accomplished
> just the opposite. Are all Obamaniacs as dumb as
> you?

Short-term memory loss, dweebo? Go back and read the OP. See if you can find the words like "did his mother ever change him BACK to a U.S. citizen" or "did he ever change his citizenship BACK". Is your English good enough to know what that word "BACK" means???

PasserBy Wrote:
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> Bystandering Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > Jebus, Libs are dumb. Nowhere in the message
> you
> > quoted did it indicate that Obama lost his US
> > citizenship. All it is saying is that he used
> his
> > Indonesian citizenship for advantageous
> purposes
> > is college applications.
> >
> > The sad thing here is that you thought your
> post
> > actually made you look smart. It accomplished
> > just the opposite. Are all Obamaniacs as dumb
> as
> > you?
>
> Short-term memory loss, dweebo? Go back and read
> the OP. See if you can find the words like "did
> his mother ever change him BACK to a U.S. citizen"
> or "did he ever change his citizenship BACK". Is
> your English good enough to know what that word
> "BACK" means???

Yes, it was poorly worded, but your interpretation was way off. OP was basically asking under which citizenship did Obama apply to college. It is a fair question and one that the campaign should answer.

Are you googling "opinion letters" now?

Bystandering Wrote:

>
> Actually, some attorneys do write opnions. They
> are called opinion letters and are a standard
> practice among most competent attorneys.
>

Do you know what a fallacy of equivocation is? Opinion letters are expressions or advisories of legal or administrative interpretation. They are not law. They are not binding. They are not decisions. They are not remotely "opinions" in any sense of what was meant in the question "As an attorney, what were his landmark cases and his important written opinions?" The person who wrote that was a useless tool. You might be as well.

PasserBy Wrote:
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> Bystandering Wrote:
>
> >
> > Actually, some attorneys do write opnions.
> They
> > are called opinion letters and are a standard
> > practice among most competent attorneys.
> >
>
> Do you know what a fallacy of equivocation is?
> Opinion letters are expressions or advisories of
> legal or administrative interpretation. They are
> not law. They are not binding. They are not
> decisions. They are not remotely "opinions" in
> any sense of what was meant in the question "As an
> attorney, what were his landmark cases and his
> important written opinions?" The person who wrote
> that was a useless tool. You might be as well.


If this useless tool can correctly define shovel ready, what does it make you as someone who can't? hmmmm.....

Bystandering Wrote:
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>
> Wrong. Your definition does not take into account
> at what stage the project is in - planning,
> zoning, architecture, etc. Shovel ready means
> that the project is at the point that laborors can
> begin actual project execution IMMEDIATELY if the
> funding is there.
>

LOL! Laborers are not recruited and cannot begin to labor until supplies and equipment for them to work with have been ordered and scheduled for timely delivery, project oversight and management teams have been brought in and brought up to speed, any incomplete or expired drawings or permitsg have been brought up to date, and on and on. None of this happens until dollars to do the work are available, and none of it gets done by waving a magic wand at it once it is.

>
> Obama even admitted they were scarce:
>

Does 90,000 sound scarce to you? Like yours, Obama's intital understanding of what "shovel ready" means was incomplete. These projects had been collected, as you never knew and therefore can't possibly recall, from mayors and governors of both parties all across the country starting in September 2008. These were the projects those folks most needed and wanted to do and had pushed forward as far as they could without having the funding to do the actual work. ARRA provided that money, but not on a first-thing-in-=the-morning basis. Get real.

Bystandering Wrote:
>
> Yes, it was poorly worded, but your interpretation
> was way off. OP was basically asking under which
> citizenship did Obama apply to college. It is a
> fair question and one that the campaign should
> answer.
>

You'd have to rewrite it entirley to achieve merely "poorly worded". The words actually used directly imply the interpretation originally drawn. It's as clear as a bell. Your sorry efforts to excuse or cover up such ignorance are to no avail.

PasserBy Wrote:
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> Bystandering Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > Wrong. Your definition does not take into
> account
> > at what stage the project is in - planning,
> > zoning, architecture, etc. Shovel ready means
> > that the project is at the point that laborors
> can
> > begin actual project execution IMMEDIATELY if
> the
> > funding is there.
> >
>
> LOL! Laborers are not recruited and cannot begin
> to labor until supplies and equipment for them to
> work with have been ordered and scheduled for
> timely delivery, project oversight and management
> teams have been brought in and brought up to
> speed, any incomplete or expired drawings or
> permitsg have been brought up to date, and on and
> on. None of this happens until dollars to do the
> work are available, and none of it gets done by
> waving a magic wand at it once it is.

Again, that is not the definition of shovel ready. You are talking about things that occur during a project timeline, but those do not describe the shovel ready phase. What you are describing is not shovel ready.

> > Obama even admitted they were scarce:
> >
>
> Does 90,000 sound scarce to you?

Just telling you what the President said. And those 90000 really helped the unemployment numbers, right?

PasserBy Wrote:
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> Bystandering Wrote:
> >
> > Yes, it was poorly worded, but your
> interpretation
> > was way off. OP was basically asking under
> which
> > citizenship did Obama apply to college. It is
> a
> > fair question and one that the campaign should
> > answer.
> >
>
> You'd have to rewrite it entirley to achieve
> merely "poorly worded". The words actually used
> directly imply the interpretation originally
> drawn. It's as clear as a bell. Your sorry
> efforts to excuse or cover up such ignorance are
> to no avail.


If you think it is clear, take off the rose colored glasses. You attempts to re-interpret are to to avail.

Bystandering Wrote:
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>
> If this useless tool can correctly define shovel
> ready, what does it make you as someone who can't?
> hmmmm.....

Reminder: Nothing is shovel-ready until there is first a shovel. A shovel is a tool with at least one more use than you, it would seem. Shovels cost money. If there is no money, there are no shovels or people to put them to proper use either. All of that has to be arranged once there is money.

PsserBy Wrote:
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> Bystandering Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > If this useless tool can correctly define
> shovel
> > ready, what does it make you as someone who
> can't?
> > hmmmm.....
>
> Reminder: Nothing is shovel-ready until there is
> first a shovel. A shovel is a tool with at least
> one more use than you, it would seem. Shovels
> cost money. If there is no money, there are no
> shovels or people to put them to proper use
> either. All of that has to be arranged once there
> is money.


If there is no shovel, it is NOT shovel ready. That is a pretty simple concept, yet you can't seem to wrap your head around it.

Bystandering Wrote:

>
> Jebus, Libs are dumb. Nowhere in the message you
> quoted did it indicate that Obama lost his US
> citizenship. All it is saying is that he used his
> Indonesian citizenship for advantageous purposes
> is college applications.
>
> The sad thing here is that you thought your post
> actually made you look smart. It accomplished
> just the opposite. Are all Obamaniacs as dumb as
> you?

I don't know, his or her stupidity is not evidenced here. Yours is. Moving to another country doesn't confer its citizenship on a person (if it did, we wouldn't have an "illegal" immigrant problem, now would we). There are a host of conditions that must be met, depending on the country and its laws. There isn't a scintilla of evidence to suggest Obama is anything but an American citizen by virtue of his birth on U.S. soil.

Your assertion that Obama used his "Indonesian citizenship for advantageous purposes is [sic] in college applications" is absurd. You clearly have little experience with or exposure to higher education in the U.S. Citizenship provides no special status or privilege to a college applicant. A student on an F1 visa, which is what Obama would have had to have as an "Indonesian citizen", does not receive in-state tuition or room & board rates. They are not eligible for any U.S. funded grants or scholarships. In fact, in order to get an F1 visa, the student needs to provide documentation to a U.S. Cousulate officer in his or her home country that proves the student has the resources to study and live in the U.S. These resources are typically rich parents, or a government sponsorship -- their government, not ours.

Of course, Occidental, Columbia, and Harvard are all private schools, so there is no differential between in-state, out-of-state, and F1. And each will have their own admission policies, tailored to their goals as an institution; which will probably include set asides for certain minority applicants, legacy students, college athletes, and the like. So, when it comes down to it, Obama's best course of action would have been to apply as an American citizen, and therefore be eligible for financial aid -- which is what he did.

As an "Indonesian", he would have had to get his money from the Indoesian government, and would have been obligated to return to his home country at the end of his studies, by our law, and theirs. That is why Obama's father returned to Kenya. And that is why his Indoesian step-father had to return home when he finished at the U. of Hawaii. Married to an American citizen, he was eligible for a spousal green card, but he would then have had to pay all the money back to the Indonesian government. It was easier to go back.

But I'll tell you what. From what I know of his history, Obama went to work right after graduating from Harvard as a Community organizer in Chicago. If so, then as an "Indonesian" he violated the terms of his F1 visa and is subject to deportation. Why don't you contact USCIS and inform them that Obama has overstayed his student visa and is working illegally. After they stop laughing at you, I'm sure they'll take care of the matter.

Bystandering Wrote:
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> Again, that is not the definition of shovel ready.
> You are talking about things that occur during a
> project timeline, but those do not describe the
> shovel ready phase. What you are describing is
> not shovel ready.
>

Yes, it is, and your hapless resort to pedestrian wiktionary definitions won't help you. A project pipeline is typically long. There is a lot of work to be done. When the point is reached that no more can or will be dome in the absence of funding, the project is shovel-ready. That does not mean that you can blow a whistle and have the digging start. Such a noption belies utter ignorance.

>
> Just telling you what the President said. And
> those 90000 really helped the unemployment
> numbers, right?
>

I don't need you to tell me much at all, and yes, at their peak those 90,000 projects were providing jobs and paychecks to more than 750,000 American workers. Ask one of them if ARRA helped the unemployment numbers. But of course, infrastructure projects were not the only job creators in the stimulus bill. All in all, it cut about two percentage points off the unemployment rate while adding almost the same amount to the GDP growth rate. You could look it up, but it's not likely that you will do that now if you never bothered to at the time.

Bystandering Wrote:
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>
> If you think it is clear, take off the rose
> colored glasses. You attempts to re-interpret are
> to to avail.
>

Fail. The OP's words are as plain as day. As is the lameness of your effort to claim otherwise. Maybe take a remedial English course at NVCC or something.

Bystandering Wrote:

>
>
> Actually, some attorneys do write opnions. They
> are called opinion letters and are a standard
> practice among most competent attorneys.
>
> You aren't too bright, are you? You are right
> about one thing, your stupidity does go on and
> on....

What??!! Could you even point to a law school on a map? Here, let me help you out a little. Scholarly legal articles and court rulings are not posted on some web site like "World Net Daily" or whatever the hell it is that you guys read. If you stumble across such a posting, it is tainted and without credibility, because it was likely not peer reviewed. Legal writing is published in scholarly journals and books, which are not generally available for free. You can go to a good law library or get a subscription to Westlaw or Lexus Nexus and look up everthing that Obama published.

Bystandering Wrote:
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>
> If there is no shovel, it is NOT shovel ready.
> That is a pretty simple concept, yet you can't
> seem to wrap your head around it.
>

The scope of your ongoing ignorance is what's difficult to fathom. What source of funding is this shovel of yours supposed to have been procured under? Do you imagine that appropriators whether in the public or private sector are dumb enough to use scarce funds to supply a project that has a bright red NO-GO light still shining in front of it? No offense, but your braindeadness is showing here, and more than just a little bit.

Interesting reading, but I have some questions.

Is there a difference between a stimulus bill and a spending bill?

If 90,000 jobs were created, how much did each job cost the taxpayers?

What happens to those jobs when the federal funding stops?

Yo, I want to offer my personal endorsement of Barack H. Obama II, our glorious President.

There's no one I'd rather have in the job. Ahh who are we kidding. That's bullshit. I'd like the job. Ain't gonna happen though. But don't you worry, I'm not going anywhere.

-Gerry

And even though we know that Obama is a filthy-rich 1 percenter, it still must have hurt to spend more than a million dollars in legal fees to hide all of his transcripts. Any open and transparent person would have just released the school records -- what is Obama hiding?

Nova_Native Wrote:
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> Bystandering Wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Actually, some attorneys do write opnions.
> They
> > are called opinion letters and are a standard
> > practice among most competent attorneys.
> >
> > You aren't too bright, are you? You are right
> > about one thing, your stupidity does go on and
> > on....
>
> What??!! Could you even point to a law school on
> a map? Here, let me help you out a little.
> Scholarly legal articles and court rulings are not
> posted on some web site like "World Net Daily" or
> whatever the hell it is that you guys read. If
> you stumble across such a posting, it is tainted
> and without credibility, because it was likely not
> peer reviewed. Legal writing is published in
> scholarly journals and books, which are not
> generally available for free. You can go to a
> good law library or get a subscription to Westlaw
> or Lexus Nexus and look up everthing that Obama
> published.


Let's start with the fact that he never had anything published in the Harvard Law Review. Even though he was the editor. We are led to the unavoidable conclusion that fucky the you.

Occidental = $58,432 tuition and expenses x 2 = $116,864

Columbia = $22,514 tuition + about the same for expenses x 2 = $100,000

Harvard Law = $49,950 tuition + $25,850 expenses x 3 = $227,400
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Total ~= $450,000

That's current year dollars but the costs would have been about the same on a relative basis

Now where does a middle income kid with lousy grades get that kind of change? You're not getting some non-academic, sliding preference type scholarship or aid to cover that. Even getting loans would be a stretch. Not to mention flying around for 3 week vacations to Indonesia, Pakistan and India, and Kenya.

WHERE THE FUCK IS THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE!? cmon you dumb liberals, the government is just letting any dumb fuckin lib off the street run for prez. they didnt even bother to see if he was a citizen of 'MURRICA! aint no1 named hussein and a socialist lib a red blooded 'MURRICAN! and all this financial aid, scholarship bull is just more lib garbage. if college costs $250,000 and you need the GOVERNMENT to help pay then get the education you can afford like savior Romney says! thats why I didnt go to college! yall dumb libs. on the wrong side of every historical issue from the american revolution up to slavery to womens suffrage and to civil rights, when will you learn!? SOCIALISTS! TRUMP 2016!!!

Obama did not graduate Magna Cum Laude. He didn't graduate with any honors at all.

Obama was given what is known as an "Affirmative Action Certificate" in lieu of having earned an actual degree.

He's not hiding his records. He's simply not releasing him. All of the charges that he's spent millions trying to "seal" his records is ridiculous. This whole issue is ridiculous - as ridiculous as Harry Reid's statements about Romney's taxes.

What Wrote:
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> Let's start with the fact that he never had
> anything published in the Harvard Law Review.
> Even though he was the editor. We are led to the
> unavoidable conclusion that fucky the you.

The fact that he wasn't published has little to do with him being Editor in Chief. I don't believe my editor in chief got her comment published, while mine was and I didn't run for editor. The two have nothing to do with each other.

I hate having to defend Obama, but I don't want to see stupid arguments gain any more traction.

Lots-o-Change Wrote:
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> Occidental = $58,432 tuition and expenses x 2 =
> $116,864
>
> Columbia = $22,514 tuition + about the same for
> expenses x 2 = $100,000
>
> Harvard Law = $49,950 tuition + $25,850 expenses x
> 3 = $227,400
> --------------------------------------------------
> -
> Total ~= $450,000
>
> That's current year dollars but the costs would
> have been about the same on a relative basis

Um, actually not. College rates have been outpacing inflation for years. I suggest you calculate with tuition from his years at these schools. Not disagreeing with your conclusion, but i think you will find it a lot less even relative to todays dollar.

PasserBy Wrote:
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> Bystandering Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > If there is no shovel, it is NOT shovel ready.
> > That is a pretty simple concept, yet you can't
> > seem to wrap your head around it.
> >
>
> The scope of your ongoing ignorance is what's
> difficult to fathom. What source of funding is
> this shovel of yours supposed to have been
> procured under? Do you imagine that appropriators
> whether in the public or private sector are dumb
> enough to use scarce funds to supply a project
> that has a bright red NO-GO light still shining in
> front of it? No offense, but your braindeadness
> is showing here, and more than just a little bit.


Shovels are reusable items. Talk about braindead. Are you so stupid to think that when one project is finished, shovels and other equipment are disposed of? You are making a contention that is unsupported by reality and facts. There is no support for your position on what is considered "shovel ready."

On the other hand:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shovel_ready

http://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/shovel-ready.asp#axzz22xrbHPMy

Notice the word "immediately."

Nova_Native Wrote:
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> Bystandering Wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Actually, some attorneys do write opnions.
> They
> > are called opinion letters and are a standard
> > practice among most competent attorneys.
> >
> > You aren't too bright, are you? You are right
> > about one thing, your stupidity does go on and
> > on....
>
> What??!! Could you even point to a law school on
> a map? Here, let me help you out a little.
> Scholarly legal articles and court rulings are not
> posted on some web site like "World Net Daily" or
> whatever the hell it is that you guys read. If
> you stumble across such a posting, it is tainted
> and without credibility, because it was likely not
> peer reviewed. Legal writing is published in
> scholarly journals and books, which are not
> generally available for free. You can go to a
> good law library or get a subscription to Westlaw
> or Lexus Nexus and look up everthing that Obama
> published.

Just logged of Lexus Nexus and couldn't find a thing. Please provide us with one of his published notes or articles that you can find on Lexus or Westlaw. You don't need to cut and paste it as that would likely violate copyright law, but just give us the title.

Oh, and there are a ton of court rulings available on numerous free sites. And anyone can get a PACER account for free. I don't even know what the hell World Net Daily is, but when you are done getting your talking points from Kos or HuffPo, get back to us.

How about we investigate,

how the hell to stay on topic,

Does it say Fairfax Underground, or "Spout of your political bullshit forum"

There is even a off-topic forum made just for this shit. Or is it no one is reading this crap in off-topic.. so you hope for more hits in a place it doesnt belong.

What the fuck is Lexus Nexus? Do you mean Lexis Nexis, dimwit?

PasserBy Wrote:
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> WAYNE ALLYN ROOT Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Here’s my gut belief: Obama got a leg up by
> > being admitted to both Occidental and Columbia
> as
> > a foreign exchange student. He was raised as a
> > young boy in Indonesia. But did his mother ever
> > change him back to a U.S. citizen? When he
> > returned to live with his grandparents in
> Hawaii
> > or as he neared college-age preparing to apply
> to
> > schools, did he ever change his citizenship
> back?
> > I’m betting not.
> >
>
> Having been born in Hawaii (remember that?), his
> US citizenship is permamnent until such time as,
> while being an adult, he voluntarily goes through
> the formal procedures to renounce it. It's not
> like registering a car. But then the O-Haters ard
> just so incredibly stupid that they'd believe it
> if some schmuck like Beck was to tell them that it
> was.


Barack was LEGALLY adopted by his step-dad with the last name of "Sotero" who was an Indonesian citizen. Barack lost his American citizenship if he ever had it in the first place. Barack Obama (Sotero) was an Indonesian from that day forward.

Not so sure he dropped US citizenship. It is possible he had dual citizenship. However, I do wonder if he attended college as a foreign student and travelled to Pakistan on an Indonesian passport.

There are so many gaps in his story that we don't know.

My personal opinion: I don't understand dual citizenship. I think you should have to claim loyalty to one country at 21. I don't understand the Korean churches flying Korean flags. I understand being proud of your culture, etc., but once an American, the loyalty should be to the Stars and Stripes.

Transportation and communication has made it much easier to maintain ties to the "old country" for the immigrants today. I think this is one of the problems that our American society is facing. Don't speak English? No need to learn. OUr laws require us to adapt to you. You can watch satellite dish in your own language.

LetsRock Wrote:
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> Barack was LEGALLY adopted by his step-dad with
> the last name of "Sotero" who was an Indonesian
> citizen. Barack lost his American citizenship if
> he ever had it in the first place. Barack Obama
> (Sotero) was an Indonesian from that day forward.

That's not how the law works.

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Bystanding dummy Wrote:
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> What the fuck is Lexus Nexus? Do you mean Lexis
> Nexis, dimwit?


Umm, I was sarcastically quoting the dolt who put it there to begin with. Context is difficult for you I see. Do Passerby, Nova Native, and you share the same brain cell?

His citezenship is secondary to the fact that a guy who never ran anything other than welfare enrollment drives -not a business,not a town,not a city ,not a state, not a military unit ,in short ,nothing that his "leadership" had any consequences could be sold to the public to be prez. His "historic " status devolves from this very expensive sales job on the American people. Equality cannot be achieved by lowering standards to new lows. Ask TJ high school and see the thread on that subject for an explanation if you cannot grasp this reality.

Not Quite Wrote:
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> Lots-o-Change Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Occidental = $58,432 tuition and expenses x 2 =
> > $116,864
> >
> > Columbia = $22,514 tuition + about the same for
> > expenses x 2 = $100,000
> >
> > Harvard Law = $49,950 tuition + $25,850 expenses
> x
> > 3 = $227,400
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -
> > Total ~= $450,000
> >
> > That's current year dollars but the costs would
> > have been about the same on a relative basis
>
> Um, actually not. College rates have been
> outpacing inflation for years. I suggest you
> calculate with tuition from his years at these
> schools. Not disagreeing with your conclusion,
> but i think you will find it a lot less even
> relative to todays dollar.


Yep. Which is why I noted they were in current dollars. College costs have increased a lot relative to inflation but not that much relative to themselves. That is, what it cost to go to Occidental versus a state school is going to be roughly the same on a relative basis within a few percent then and now.

You can put the money on whatever basis you want and it's still a ton. I'm a pretty good mirror of Obama - a year older, mixed-race kid, nothing special grades coming out of high school. I remember very well what was available to me as far as scholarships, Pell grants, and loans and what private schools cost relative to that at the time. Even declaring as a self-supporting student and getting the max for grants and loans unless you were getting some other very significant assistance beyond the normal stuff there's no way it works. Which is why I ended up at a state school versus some of the others where I was accepted.

hate to defend him Wrote:
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> Not so sure he dropped US citizenship. It is
> possible he had dual citizenship. However, I do
> wonder if he attended college as a foreign student
> and travelled to Pakistan on an Indonesian
> passport.
>
> There are so many gaps in his story that we don't
> know.
>
> My personal opinion: I don't understand dual
> citizenship. I think you should have to claim
> loyalty to one country at 21. I don't understand
> the Korean churches flying Korean flags. I
> understand being proud of your culture, etc., but
> once an American, the loyalty should be to the
> Stars and Stripes.
>
> Transportation and communication has made it much
> easier to maintain ties to the "old country" for
> the immigrants today. I think this is one of the
> problems that our American society is facing.
> Don't speak English? No need to learn. OUr laws
> require us to adapt to you. You can watch
> satellite dish in your own language.

Yet you would not let your daughter marry someone black or latino because they have a different culture and you want to preserve yours...

What is to be gained by all this? Obama is shamless and beyond reproach as are his supporters.

If we do find out he was a career C and D student like Sen. Kerry, he'll probably just say he unknowingly cheated off the dumb kid in class.

I seriously doubt there is a grand conspiracy to get him elected since he was young child. If there was, there would not be so many loose ends such as the editor of his book claiming him to be Kenyon or whatever.

WAYNE ALLYN ROOT Wrote:
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> Here’s my gut belief: Obama got a leg up by
> being admitted to both Occidental and Columbia as
> a foreign exchange student. He was raised as a
> young boy in Indonesia. But did his mother ever
> change him back to a U.S. citizen? When he
> returned to live with his grandparents in Hawaii
> or as he neared college-age preparing to apply to
> schools, did he ever change his citizenship back?
> I’m betting not.
>
> If you could unseal Obama’s Columbia University
> records I believe you’d find that:
>
> A) He rarely ever attended class.
>
> B) His grades were not those typical of what we
> understand it takes to get into Harvard Law
> School.
>
> C) He attended Columbia as a foreign exchange
> student.
>
> D) He paid little for either undergraduate
> college or Harvard Law School because of foreign
> aid and scholarships given to a poor foreign
> students like this kid Barry Soetoro from
> Indonesia.
>
> If you think I’m “fishing” then prove me
> wrong. Open up your records Mr. President. What
> are you afraid of?
>
> http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/obama%E2%80%
> 99s-college-classmate-the-obama-scandal-is-at-colu
> mbia/


ok genious, please enlighten us on how Bush got into Yale and which English teacher gave him passing grades.

wat? Wrote:
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> WAYNE ALLYN ROOT Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Here’s my gut belief: Obama got a leg up by
> > being admitted to both Occidental and Columbia
> as
> > a foreign exchange student. He was raised as a
> > young boy in Indonesia. But did his mother ever
> > change him back to a U.S. citizen? When he
> > returned to live with his grandparents in
> Hawaii
> > or as he neared college-age preparing to apply
> to
> > schools, did he ever change his citizenship
> back?
> > I’m betting not.
> >
> > If you could unseal Obama’s Columbia
> University
> > records I believe you’d find that:
> >
> > A) He rarely ever attended class.
> >
> > B) His grades were not those typical of what
> we
> > understand it takes to get into Harvard Law
> > School.
> >
> > C) He attended Columbia as a foreign exchange
> > student.
> >
> > D) He paid little for either undergraduate
> > college or Harvard Law School because of
> foreign
> > aid and scholarships given to a poor foreign
> > students like this kid Barry Soetoro from
> > Indonesia.
> >
> > If you think I’m “fishing” then prove me
> > wrong. Open up your records Mr. President. What
> > are you afraid of?
> >
> >
> http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/obama%E2%80%
>
> >
> 99s-college-classmate-the-obama-scandal-is-at-colu
>
> > mbia/
>
>
> ok genious, please enlighten us on how Bush got
> into Yale and which English teacher gave him
> passing grades.


The same one that taught him about the 57 states and told him he needed a breathalyzer for his asthma. Duh.

wat? Wrote:
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>
> ok genious, please enlighten us on how Bush got
> into Yale and which English teacher gave him
> passing grades.

I always assumed Bush got into Yale via the Good Ol'e Boy Network. Right or wrong it is what it is.

and considering he was 3rd generation its no leap of faith to assume otherwise. Not much of mystery.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/09/2012 11:16AM by Hay Zeus.

And the brochure touting among other things, Obama's great contributions at Harvard, listed him as Kenyan born.

This exists - existed long before Obama was running for office (early 1990's), and he did nothing to alter the document when it came out.
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another try at the brochure
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