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Virginia Power and its Relationship with Fairfax
Posted by:
NRA 75
()
Date: July 28, 2012 01:38PM
Had an interesting discussion with State Senator Chap Petersen, about the power that VA Power, not only wields on Fairfax, but in other areas as well. For those who aren't aware, Virginia has appointed folks from the Governors office, who oversee VA Power and other electric companies.
Each time Chap and other folks in the VA State Senate, or House of Delegates, have tried to introduce legislation to make these people ELECTED, have all been killed in committee. This is not only a Democratic issue either, because while that is Chap's party, others in the GOP have tried the same. While Virginia Power should be commended for their handling of the derecho, the folks who are approving their rates, are nothing but stooges for any Governor of Virginia.
If we are going to have a monopoly, such as Virginia Power does with regards to Fairfax, why not have them held more accountable by us? Thoughts on this folks? Aren't you upset that each time its brought up for a floor vote, it gets killed in by committee, by "no surprise", legislators who are getting the most campaign donations from Virginia Power?
Each time Chap and other folks in the VA State Senate, or House of Delegates, have tried to introduce legislation to make these people ELECTED, have all been killed in committee. This is not only a Democratic issue either, because while that is Chap's party, others in the GOP have tried the same. While Virginia Power should be commended for their handling of the derecho, the folks who are approving their rates, are nothing but stooges for any Governor of Virginia.
If we are going to have a monopoly, such as Virginia Power does with regards to Fairfax, why not have them held more accountable by us? Thoughts on this folks? Aren't you upset that each time its brought up for a floor vote, it gets killed in by committee, by "no surprise", legislators who are getting the most campaign donations from Virginia Power?
Re: Virginia Power and its Relationship with Fairfax
Posted by:
How dare you question Virginia Power
()
Date: July 28, 2012 01:50PM
Some people drop their trou the minute there is a power outage. There were alot of linemen ladyboys in this forum after derecho shouting down anyone who dared to question the status quo. So what is reported dosen't surprise me a bit. Not the only patronage scam going on in Virgina either.
Re: Virginia Power and its Relationship with Fairfax
Posted by:
NRA 75
()
Date: July 28, 2012 01:58PM
It is amusing to see those "lose it" when the power goes out. Although with peeps here not understanding the concept of 4 way stops at blacked out traffic light intersections, it is dangerous.
Yeah, this is part of the old system, the political patronage, that needs to be eliminated however. And plus competition opps might be a good thing too. VA Power is generally better than most companies, such as BG+E and Pepco, locally.
Yeah, this is part of the old system, the political patronage, that needs to be eliminated however. And plus competition opps might be a good thing too. VA Power is generally better than most companies, such as BG+E and Pepco, locally.
Re: Virginia Power and its Relationship with Fairfax
Posted by:
killer watts
()
Date: July 28, 2012 02:07PM
NRA 75 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Had an interesting discussion with State Senator
> Chap Petersen, about the power that VA Power, not
> only wields on Fairfax, but in other areas as
> well. For those who aren't aware, Virginia has
> appointed folks from the Governors office, who
> oversee VA Power and other electric companies.
>
> Each time Chap and other folks in the VA State
> Senate, or House of Delegates, have tried to
> introduce legislation to make these people
> ELECTED, have all been killed in committee. This
> is not only a Democratic issue either, because
> while that is Chap's party, others in the GOP have
> tried the same. While Virginia Power should be
> commended for their handling of the derecho, the
> folks who are approving their rates, are nothing
> but stooges for any Governor of Virginia.
>
> If we are going to have a monopoly, such as
> Virginia Power does with regards to Fairfax, why
> not have them held more accountable by us?
> Thoughts on this folks? Aren't you upset that each
> time its brought up for a floor vote, it gets
> killed in by committee, by "no surprise",
> legislators who are getting the most campaign
> donations from Virginia Power?
Okay we have super reliable electric power at well below the national average rates with Dominion Virginia power maybe we should let that go for now and find something else to cry about.
I used to have NOVEC as my power provider and although they were reliable the cost was much higher.
Bottom line, It aint broke so let's find something else to fix.
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> Had an interesting discussion with State Senator
> Chap Petersen, about the power that VA Power, not
> only wields on Fairfax, but in other areas as
> well. For those who aren't aware, Virginia has
> appointed folks from the Governors office, who
> oversee VA Power and other electric companies.
>
> Each time Chap and other folks in the VA State
> Senate, or House of Delegates, have tried to
> introduce legislation to make these people
> ELECTED, have all been killed in committee. This
> is not only a Democratic issue either, because
> while that is Chap's party, others in the GOP have
> tried the same. While Virginia Power should be
> commended for their handling of the derecho, the
> folks who are approving their rates, are nothing
> but stooges for any Governor of Virginia.
>
> If we are going to have a monopoly, such as
> Virginia Power does with regards to Fairfax, why
> not have them held more accountable by us?
> Thoughts on this folks? Aren't you upset that each
> time its brought up for a floor vote, it gets
> killed in by committee, by "no surprise",
> legislators who are getting the most campaign
> donations from Virginia Power?
Okay we have super reliable electric power at well below the national average rates with Dominion Virginia power maybe we should let that go for now and find something else to cry about.
I used to have NOVEC as my power provider and although they were reliable the cost was much higher.
Bottom line, It aint broke so let's find something else to fix.
Re: Virginia Power and its Relationship with Fairfax
Posted by:
Define super reliable
()
Date: July 28, 2012 02:15PM
killer watts Wrote:
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> NRA 75 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Had an interesting discussion with State
> Senator
> > Chap Petersen, about the power that VA Power,
> not
> > only wields on Fairfax, but in other areas as
> > well. For those who aren't aware, Virginia has
> > appointed folks from the Governors office, who
> > oversee VA Power and other electric companies.
> >
> > Each time Chap and other folks in the VA State
> > Senate, or House of Delegates, have tried to
> > introduce legislation to make these people
> > ELECTED, have all been killed in committee.
> This
> > is not only a Democratic issue either, because
> > while that is Chap's party, others in the GOP
> have
> > tried the same. While Virginia Power should be
> > commended for their handling of the derecho,
> the
> > folks who are approving their rates, are
> nothing
> > but stooges for any Governor of Virginia.
> >
> > If we are going to have a monopoly, such as
> > Virginia Power does with regards to Fairfax,
> why
> > not have them held more accountable by us?
> > Thoughts on this folks? Aren't you upset that
> each
> > time its brought up for a floor vote, it gets
> > killed in by committee, by "no surprise",
> > legislators who are getting the most campaign
> > donations from Virginia Power?
>
>
> Okay we have super reliable electric power at well
> below the national average rates with Dominion
> Virginia power maybe we should let that go for now
> and find something else to cry about.
> I used to have NOVEC as my power provider and
> although they were reliable the cost was much
> higher.
>
> Bottom line, It aint broke so let's find something
> else to fix.
Have a source for your 'super reliable' comment?
-------------------------------------------------------
> NRA 75 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Had an interesting discussion with State
> Senator
> > Chap Petersen, about the power that VA Power,
> not
> > only wields on Fairfax, but in other areas as
> > well. For those who aren't aware, Virginia has
> > appointed folks from the Governors office, who
> > oversee VA Power and other electric companies.
> >
> > Each time Chap and other folks in the VA State
> > Senate, or House of Delegates, have tried to
> > introduce legislation to make these people
> > ELECTED, have all been killed in committee.
> This
> > is not only a Democratic issue either, because
> > while that is Chap's party, others in the GOP
> have
> > tried the same. While Virginia Power should be
> > commended for their handling of the derecho,
> the
> > folks who are approving their rates, are
> nothing
> > but stooges for any Governor of Virginia.
> >
> > If we are going to have a monopoly, such as
> > Virginia Power does with regards to Fairfax,
> why
> > not have them held more accountable by us?
> > Thoughts on this folks? Aren't you upset that
> each
> > time its brought up for a floor vote, it gets
> > killed in by committee, by "no surprise",
> > legislators who are getting the most campaign
> > donations from Virginia Power?
>
>
> Okay we have super reliable electric power at well
> below the national average rates with Dominion
> Virginia power maybe we should let that go for now
> and find something else to cry about.
> I used to have NOVEC as my power provider and
> although they were reliable the cost was much
> higher.
>
> Bottom line, It aint broke so let's find something
> else to fix.
Have a source for your 'super reliable' comment?
Re: Virginia Power and its Relationship with Fairfax
Posted by:
Deja Vu
()
Date: July 28, 2012 02:42PM
I have some experience with this sort of thing in Ohio.
Years ago, I was a part-time pollster for Peter Hart & Associates
and we conducted a poll for the Public Utilities Commission of
Ohio. (PUCO) At the time, the PUCO Board of Directors was
appointed by the Governor but there was a clamor to have at
least one seat filled by someone from a consumer interest group
rather than execs from the power companies themselves which had
historically been the case since PUCO was first created. Sounded
like a great idea to me but the public's response was overwhelmingly
opposed. The issue was put to a statewide referendum and it lost by
a huge majority.
Years ago, I was a part-time pollster for Peter Hart & Associates
and we conducted a poll for the Public Utilities Commission of
Ohio. (PUCO) At the time, the PUCO Board of Directors was
appointed by the Governor but there was a clamor to have at
least one seat filled by someone from a consumer interest group
rather than execs from the power companies themselves which had
historically been the case since PUCO was first created. Sounded
like a great idea to me but the public's response was overwhelmingly
opposed. The issue was put to a statewide referendum and it lost by
a huge majority.
Re: Virginia Power and its Relationship with Fairfax
Posted by:
But Seriously
()
Date: July 28, 2012 02:59PM
If you don't enjoy our electricity
Please feel free to turn it off.
Start you own electric company
You live in America. Land of opportunities
Please feel free to turn it off.
Start you own electric company
You live in America. Land of opportunities
Re: Virginia Power and its Relationship with Fairfax
Posted by:
Dominion longtime
()
Date: July 28, 2012 03:00PM
Leave the driving to us please. No power other than standby emergency power is generated in Fairfax county. The closest generator is possum point in Prince william county and those are fossil plants. Faifax county residents are merely consumers. We do not need your input, if you have a problem with Dominion feel free to buy power elsewhere.
Re: Virginia Power and its Relationship with Fairfax
Posted by:
NRA 75
()
Date: July 28, 2012 04:19PM
But Seriously Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> If you don't enjoy our electricity
> Please feel free to turn it off.
> Start you own electric company
> You live in America. Land of opportunities
:). Being forced to have a company dictate over politicians and the people they are supposed to represent, goes against the grain of everything American. Even if I had billions of dollars, due to the way the system is set up, I would not be able to compete due to not having a direct vote in rate charge increases, or anything else for that matter.
As for Virginia Power, like I said before, this isn't about their service. For the most part, I've been happy with it, and to the poster above, yes their rates are better than most. However, wouldn't you like to have direct voting over the members of the Virginia Board that oversees them. A check and balance of sorts?
-------------------------------------------------------
> If you don't enjoy our electricity
> Please feel free to turn it off.
> Start you own electric company
> You live in America. Land of opportunities
:). Being forced to have a company dictate over politicians and the people they are supposed to represent, goes against the grain of everything American. Even if I had billions of dollars, due to the way the system is set up, I would not be able to compete due to not having a direct vote in rate charge increases, or anything else for that matter.
As for Virginia Power, like I said before, this isn't about their service. For the most part, I've been happy with it, and to the poster above, yes their rates are better than most. However, wouldn't you like to have direct voting over the members of the Virginia Board that oversees them. A check and balance of sorts?
Re: Virginia Power and its Relationship with Fairfax
Posted by:
But Seriously
()
Date: July 28, 2012 05:11PM
Excuses, Excuses.
Butterflies only have to flap their wings.
Butterflies only have to flap their wings.
Re: Virginia Power and its Relationship with Fairfax
Posted by:
curious
()
Date: July 28, 2012 06:05PM
Here's the Dominion Power campaign contributions from 1993 to 2012-
$250,000 so far this year . . .
For more info check VPAP.org
Attachments:
$250,000 so far this year . . .
For more info check VPAP.org
Attachments:
Re: Virginia Power and its Relationship with Fairfax
Posted by:
curious
()
Date: July 28, 2012 06:10PM
In addition, Thomas Farrell, the CEO of Dominion Power, bought his son a seat in the House of Delegates- Peter Farrell was nominated in a closed Republican power-broker convention to replace Bill Janis, who ran, and lost for Commonwealth's Attorney in Henrico County. Now Dominion has their own delegate!
Young delegate has open door policy for constituents:
http://www.goochlandgazette.com/index.php/news/article/young_delegate_has_open_door_policy_for_constituents/
It would be understandable if you saw Peter Farrell in the General Assembly Building and thought he was a legislative intern. A youthful looking 28, he could easily pass for a college student.
But Farrell isn’t working for a lawmaker; he is one. A Republican, he represents the 56th House District, which includes Louisa County and parts of Goochland, Henrico and Spotsylvania counties.
Farrell entered the 56th House District race after the incumbent delegate, Bill Janis, resigned to run for commonwealth’s attorney in Henrico County. GOP leaders selected Farrell as the party’s nominee, and he ran unopposed for the seat.
His father, Thomas Farrell, is president, chairman and chief executive officer of Dominion Resources, the Richmond-based energy conglomerate.
Gov. Bob McDonnell appointed the elder Farrell to chair the Governor’s Higher Education Commission and to sit on Virginia Commonwealth University’s governing board.
Del. Farrell raised more than $133,000 for his House campaign. The Republican Party chipped in $22,000, Farrell’s father donated $10,000, and several large contributions came from prominent Richmond-area residents.
For instance, Richard Cullen, chairman of the McGuireWoods law firm, gave Farrell $8,325, and William Goodwin Jr., chairman of CCA Industries, provided $5,000, according to the Virginia Public Access Project, which compiles campaign finance data.
Farrell doesn’t let his age or newcomer status hold him back. He brings a light, unassuming attitude to his job, with a willingness to meet anyone.
“I have an open-door policy,” Farrell said. “If I’m here, I will talk to them.”
[Especially if the person wanting to talk is your dad, the CEO of Dominion].
Young delegate has open door policy for constituents:
http://www.goochlandgazette.com/index.php/news/article/young_delegate_has_open_door_policy_for_constituents/
It would be understandable if you saw Peter Farrell in the General Assembly Building and thought he was a legislative intern. A youthful looking 28, he could easily pass for a college student.
But Farrell isn’t working for a lawmaker; he is one. A Republican, he represents the 56th House District, which includes Louisa County and parts of Goochland, Henrico and Spotsylvania counties.
Farrell entered the 56th House District race after the incumbent delegate, Bill Janis, resigned to run for commonwealth’s attorney in Henrico County. GOP leaders selected Farrell as the party’s nominee, and he ran unopposed for the seat.
His father, Thomas Farrell, is president, chairman and chief executive officer of Dominion Resources, the Richmond-based energy conglomerate.
Gov. Bob McDonnell appointed the elder Farrell to chair the Governor’s Higher Education Commission and to sit on Virginia Commonwealth University’s governing board.
Del. Farrell raised more than $133,000 for his House campaign. The Republican Party chipped in $22,000, Farrell’s father donated $10,000, and several large contributions came from prominent Richmond-area residents.
For instance, Richard Cullen, chairman of the McGuireWoods law firm, gave Farrell $8,325, and William Goodwin Jr., chairman of CCA Industries, provided $5,000, according to the Virginia Public Access Project, which compiles campaign finance data.
Farrell doesn’t let his age or newcomer status hold him back. He brings a light, unassuming attitude to his job, with a willingness to meet anyone.
“I have an open-door policy,” Farrell said. “If I’m here, I will talk to them.”
[Especially if the person wanting to talk is your dad, the CEO of Dominion].
Re: Virginia Power and its Relationship with Fairfax
Posted by:
NRA 75
()
Date: July 28, 2012 08:29PM
curious Wrote:
> > But Farrell isn’t working for a lawmaker; he is
> one. A Republican, he represents the 56th House
> District, which includes Louisa County and parts
> of Goochland, Henrico and Spotsylvania counties.
>
Also, coincidentally or not, home of the nuclear reactor that is wholly owned and operated by Virginia Power. Thanks for the heads up, as this is more proof, of something "stinking" to high hell. Not that politics isn't dirty enough, but here's more of that, along with the "boys club" again.
> > But Farrell isn’t working for a lawmaker; he is
> one. A Republican, he represents the 56th House
> District, which includes Louisa County and parts
> of Goochland, Henrico and Spotsylvania counties.
>
Also, coincidentally or not, home of the nuclear reactor that is wholly owned and operated by Virginia Power. Thanks for the heads up, as this is more proof, of something "stinking" to high hell. Not that politics isn't dirty enough, but here's more of that, along with the "boys club" again.
Re: Virginia Power and its Relationship with Fairfax
Posted by:
dooy
()
Date: July 29, 2012 01:34AM
Hey, what do you expect? This is the most corrupt fucking country that ever was. Rotten to the core.
It's amazing that it has lasted this long. But the end is in sight.
It's amazing that it has lasted this long. But the end is in sight.
Re: Virginia Power and its Relationship with Fairfax
Posted by:
steve b
()
Date: July 29, 2012 05:31PM
there needs to be a bit more poking around here.
I understand from an electrical contractor that Virginia Power "was awarded 75%of the tax credits for solar power generation " that were supposed to be available for consumers.
Also, VaPower also sued a small start up company over use of the lines becasue the start up wanted to provide solar electric on all Commonwealth college campuses (state supported), the goal being to reduce the cost of electricity on campuses and giving a break to those paying tuition and related costs...like utilities...
I understand from an electrical contractor that Virginia Power "was awarded 75%of the tax credits for solar power generation " that were supposed to be available for consumers.
Also, VaPower also sued a small start up company over use of the lines becasue the start up wanted to provide solar electric on all Commonwealth college campuses (state supported), the goal being to reduce the cost of electricity on campuses and giving a break to those paying tuition and related costs...like utilities...