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Fairfax County hids $43 million screwup
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Date: April 20, 2012 10:43AM
Fairfax County suspends work on last leg of $43 million computer overhaul
By Fredrick Kunkle, Published: April 19The Washington Post
Fairfax County has suspended work on the last leg of a nearly $43 million contract to overhaul its computer systems after technical problems threatened to push the project further over budget, county officials said Thursday.
The ambitious effort — the implementation of which had been overseen by the man recently appointed county executive, Edward L. Long Jr. — has been marred by delays and glitches, according to an April 6 letter sent to the software company from the county’s Department of Purchasing & Supply Management.
In the letter, the county advised SAP Public Services of its intent to suspend all work on the third phase of its Fairfax County Unified System project, known as FOCUS. The new system is intended to save money by consolidating purchasing and other administrative procedures in a single database serving both the county and Fairfax County Public Schools.
The county decided to suspend work after the software company requested “extraordinary additional costs” for the third phase, even as the county struggles to iron out problems with earlier phases, according to the letter. SAP’s request to bill an additional 11,000 hours for technical support — well above the 7,300 hours included in the base contract — is “improper,” the county says in its letter.
The letter also notes that bugs in the new system caused a four-month delay from its scheduled launch last July and have continued to pop up since the system became operational Nov. 7.
“The simple process of ordering paper is now a major ordeal,” Supervisor Pat S. Herrity (R-Springfield) said.
Cathy A. Muse, a county purchasing agent, said Thursday that SAP’s request for additional hours for the third phase would cost an estimated $3.9 million. That’s in addition to the $3.4 million extra the county agreed to pay in September, increasing the total cost to $42.4 million. Of that, the county already has paid $17.5 million, Muse said.
David Molchany, a deputy county executive who assumed control of the FOCUS project last week, said the county is weighing whether to proceed.
Members of the Board of Supervisors said that such a massive overhaul was bound to encounter some glitches, but they blamed SAP for continuing problems and said it should not reflect badly on Long.
“[Our] leadership team has stepped forward and said, ‘We’ve got a problem and we’ve got to address it.’ And I think that’s to its credit,” Supervisor Michael R. Frey (R-Sully) said. “It’s not like you can just throw one [system] out and put another one in.”
Long, a former chief financial officer and deputy county executive, was brought back last year after retirement and given sweeping authority to oversee the installation of FOCUS. On April 10, the board appointed him to succeed County Executive Anthony H. Griffin, who plans to retire next week. Long takes over April 25.
On the day that Long was appointed last week, he acknowledged that the FOCUS project had encountered delays and problems. But he said that the county was on track to implement the next phase by July and called the project a “success.”
“There have been growing pains,” Long told reporters. “[But] I think we’ve done a good job to get to where we are.”
“You have to put the problems in perspective,” Long said Thursday night. The county decided to alter some of its business practices to conform to the demands of the new computer system because the county did not want to pay to customize software, and the workforce of approximately 12,000 is doing its best to adapt, Long said.
“Sometimes it’s not a problem, it’s a comfort issue,” Long said. “So when I said the project has been a ‘success,’ we’ve been able to pay our bills and process things. But it’s only been five months. This is not a project that’s out of control. It’s not a project that’s millions and millions of dollars over budget.”
The county reviewed its computer systems for vulnerabilities amid widespread concern that computers might freeze with the changeover in dates at the end of the last millennium. After deciding the systems needed upgrading, county officials signed SAP contracts in 2009 for software and in 2010 for its installation.
“It’s been more complicated in its implementation than everyone thought at the beginning,” Board of Supervisors Chairman Sharon Bulova (D) said.“Ed is a very solid individual, and I think because of Ed’s experience with FOCUS and his knowledge of FOCUS, I think as county executive he’ll have more opportunity to work things out with FOCUS.”
SAP Public Services is a unit of SAP AG, a global German software company whose U.S. headquarters is located in Newtown Square, Pa.
“I don’t want to get into whose fault this is,” said Andy Kendzie, a spokesman for SAP. ‘Whatever issues are going on with Fairfax County, we want to work with them to get them solved.”
By Fredrick Kunkle, Published: April 19The Washington Post
Fairfax County has suspended work on the last leg of a nearly $43 million contract to overhaul its computer systems after technical problems threatened to push the project further over budget, county officials said Thursday.
The ambitious effort — the implementation of which had been overseen by the man recently appointed county executive, Edward L. Long Jr. — has been marred by delays and glitches, according to an April 6 letter sent to the software company from the county’s Department of Purchasing & Supply Management.
In the letter, the county advised SAP Public Services of its intent to suspend all work on the third phase of its Fairfax County Unified System project, known as FOCUS. The new system is intended to save money by consolidating purchasing and other administrative procedures in a single database serving both the county and Fairfax County Public Schools.
The county decided to suspend work after the software company requested “extraordinary additional costs” for the third phase, even as the county struggles to iron out problems with earlier phases, according to the letter. SAP’s request to bill an additional 11,000 hours for technical support — well above the 7,300 hours included in the base contract — is “improper,” the county says in its letter.
The letter also notes that bugs in the new system caused a four-month delay from its scheduled launch last July and have continued to pop up since the system became operational Nov. 7.
“The simple process of ordering paper is now a major ordeal,” Supervisor Pat S. Herrity (R-Springfield) said.
Cathy A. Muse, a county purchasing agent, said Thursday that SAP’s request for additional hours for the third phase would cost an estimated $3.9 million. That’s in addition to the $3.4 million extra the county agreed to pay in September, increasing the total cost to $42.4 million. Of that, the county already has paid $17.5 million, Muse said.
David Molchany, a deputy county executive who assumed control of the FOCUS project last week, said the county is weighing whether to proceed.
Members of the Board of Supervisors said that such a massive overhaul was bound to encounter some glitches, but they blamed SAP for continuing problems and said it should not reflect badly on Long.
“[Our] leadership team has stepped forward and said, ‘We’ve got a problem and we’ve got to address it.’ And I think that’s to its credit,” Supervisor Michael R. Frey (R-Sully) said. “It’s not like you can just throw one [system] out and put another one in.”
Long, a former chief financial officer and deputy county executive, was brought back last year after retirement and given sweeping authority to oversee the installation of FOCUS. On April 10, the board appointed him to succeed County Executive Anthony H. Griffin, who plans to retire next week. Long takes over April 25.
On the day that Long was appointed last week, he acknowledged that the FOCUS project had encountered delays and problems. But he said that the county was on track to implement the next phase by July and called the project a “success.”
“There have been growing pains,” Long told reporters. “[But] I think we’ve done a good job to get to where we are.”
“You have to put the problems in perspective,” Long said Thursday night. The county decided to alter some of its business practices to conform to the demands of the new computer system because the county did not want to pay to customize software, and the workforce of approximately 12,000 is doing its best to adapt, Long said.
“Sometimes it’s not a problem, it’s a comfort issue,” Long said. “So when I said the project has been a ‘success,’ we’ve been able to pay our bills and process things. But it’s only been five months. This is not a project that’s out of control. It’s not a project that’s millions and millions of dollars over budget.”
The county reviewed its computer systems for vulnerabilities amid widespread concern that computers might freeze with the changeover in dates at the end of the last millennium. After deciding the systems needed upgrading, county officials signed SAP contracts in 2009 for software and in 2010 for its installation.
“It’s been more complicated in its implementation than everyone thought at the beginning,” Board of Supervisors Chairman Sharon Bulova (D) said.“Ed is a very solid individual, and I think because of Ed’s experience with FOCUS and his knowledge of FOCUS, I think as county executive he’ll have more opportunity to work things out with FOCUS.”
SAP Public Services is a unit of SAP AG, a global German software company whose U.S. headquarters is located in Newtown Square, Pa.
“I don’t want to get into whose fault this is,” said Andy Kendzie, a spokesman for SAP. ‘Whatever issues are going on with Fairfax County, we want to work with them to get them solved.”
Re: Fairfax County hids $43 million screwup
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WTF Deux
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Date: April 20, 2012 10:55AM
Something's not right here. SAP wants $3.9 million for 11,000 hours of contract work - that's $354.55/hour.
Who negotiated that rate for FFX County?
Who negotiated that rate for FFX County?
Re: Fairfax County hids $43 million screwup
Posted by:
Jess1
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Date: April 20, 2012 10:55AM
Wow. Glad our local reps are sooooo much smarter than those screwups in Richmond - or something like that.
Heh. Enjoy the Decline!
Heh. Enjoy the Decline!
Re: Fairfax County hids $43 million screwup
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yep, maximize and seamless
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Date: April 20, 2012 11:02AM
FAIRFAX COUNTY GOVERNMENT AND PUBLIC SCHOOLS
INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY INFRASTRUCTURE
AND IT PROJECT IMPLEMENTATION STANDARDS
The SAP application will be supporting both Fairfax County Government and Fairfax County
Public Schools. It is anticipated that the solution will be installed at the Fairfax County
Government data center and managed by Fairfax County Government’s Department of
Information Technology (DIT). Fairfax County Public Schools may house some of the
components in a different location, and they will also access and manage those components
separately. The County procedures for implementing new technology follow the application
hardware standards (e.g., application server, enterprise database, etc.) as defined by the
selected SAP software and by Fairfax County Government and Fairfax County Public Schools IT
standards. The final solution shall maximize performance and shall provide a seamless solution
to integrate the SAP system in both Fairfax County Government and Fairfax County Public
Schools existing architecture.
INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY INFRASTRUCTURE
AND IT PROJECT IMPLEMENTATION STANDARDS
The SAP application will be supporting both Fairfax County Government and Fairfax County
Public Schools. It is anticipated that the solution will be installed at the Fairfax County
Government data center and managed by Fairfax County Government’s Department of
Information Technology (DIT). Fairfax County Public Schools may house some of the
components in a different location, and they will also access and manage those components
separately. The County procedures for implementing new technology follow the application
hardware standards (e.g., application server, enterprise database, etc.) as defined by the
selected SAP software and by Fairfax County Government and Fairfax County Public Schools IT
standards. The final solution shall maximize performance and shall provide a seamless solution
to integrate the SAP system in both Fairfax County Government and Fairfax County Public
Schools existing architecture.
Re: Fairfax County hids $43 million screwup
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ROCKO MEATS
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Date: April 20, 2012 11:09AM
This surprises you all why?
Re: Fairfax County hids $43 million screwup
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Top Priority indeed!
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Date: April 20, 2012 11:10AM
Response to Questions on the FY 2011 Budget
Request By: Supervisor Herrity
Question: Please provide an update on the Legacy Systems Replacement Project.
Response: Fairfax County and Fairfax County Public Schools have partnered to replace aging legacy
financial, procurement, budget and human resource systems with one integrated solution.
The Fairfax County Unified System (FOCUS) will support all County government and
school employees with these daily core operations. Fairfax County government will
provide all funding for the upfront software purchase, ongoing software maintenance and
system wide implementation services required for the entire project.
The County selected and completed the purchase of SAP as the FOCUS software last
summer. Since award of the software contract, the County has been actively evaluating
Offerors to provide SAP implementation services. This procurement is nearly complete.
Recently, the County entered into formal negotiations with multiple Offerors and intends
to award the services contract this summer.
The County negotiated an extremely low price for the purchase of SAP software and
expects to do the same for SAP implementation services. However, as the vast majority
of project costs will be incurred as part of the SAP implementation services contract,
additional project funding will be required over the next 36 months. It is anticipated that
one funding request will be made each year for the next three years to ensure project
completion.
The FOCUS project continues to be the top priority of the County’s Information
Technology Plan. It is anticipated that additional funding will be appropriated during the
annual budget process or scheduled quarterly reviews over the next three years, and that
most if not all of the allotted Fund 104 resources will be devoted entirely to supporting
the SAP implementation services contract. To protect the interests of the County during
ongoing negotiations, this Q and A response intentionally does not reference specific
possible funding requirements that may be included in a future contract award. Further
details on the amount of funding needed over the next 36 months will be provided to the
Board as soon as formal negotiations are completed
Request By: Supervisor Herrity
Question: Please provide an update on the Legacy Systems Replacement Project.
Response: Fairfax County and Fairfax County Public Schools have partnered to replace aging legacy
financial, procurement, budget and human resource systems with one integrated solution.
The Fairfax County Unified System (FOCUS) will support all County government and
school employees with these daily core operations. Fairfax County government will
provide all funding for the upfront software purchase, ongoing software maintenance and
system wide implementation services required for the entire project.
The County selected and completed the purchase of SAP as the FOCUS software last
summer. Since award of the software contract, the County has been actively evaluating
Offerors to provide SAP implementation services. This procurement is nearly complete.
Recently, the County entered into formal negotiations with multiple Offerors and intends
to award the services contract this summer.
The County negotiated an extremely low price for the purchase of SAP software and
expects to do the same for SAP implementation services. However, as the vast majority
of project costs will be incurred as part of the SAP implementation services contract,
additional project funding will be required over the next 36 months. It is anticipated that
one funding request will be made each year for the next three years to ensure project
completion.
The FOCUS project continues to be the top priority of the County’s Information
Technology Plan. It is anticipated that additional funding will be appropriated during the
annual budget process or scheduled quarterly reviews over the next three years, and that
most if not all of the allotted Fund 104 resources will be devoted entirely to supporting
the SAP implementation services contract. To protect the interests of the County during
ongoing negotiations, this Q and A response intentionally does not reference specific
possible funding requirements that may be included in a future contract award. Further
details on the amount of funding needed over the next 36 months will be provided to the
Board as soon as formal negotiations are completed
Re: Fairfax County hids $43 million screwup
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SAP is the one!
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Date: April 20, 2012 11:27AM
June 22, 2010
Attachment 1 - List of Offerors for RFP10-125118-10
Attachment 2 – FOCUS 10 Guiding Principles
STAFF:
Edward L. Long, Jr., Deputy County Executive
Cathy Muse, Director, Department of Purchasing and Supply Management
Wanda Gibson, Chief Technology Officer
SAP Consulting’s superior approach and methodology to implementing SAP software was unmatched by their competitors. They have designed a project plan that maximizes resources without compromising on project goals or scope.
SAP Consulting demonstrated a comprehensive understanding of the complexity of implementing the integrated software as one system for both the County government and school system, and the understanding that Fairfax expects to maximize the capabilities of the software to ensure that its needs are completely met. SAP Consulting displayed their tight integration with and ability to reach into the SAP software development organization to ensure that Fairfax’s project requirements will be in line with the roadmap of future SAP software enhancements.
The SAP Consulting team assigned to Fairfax brings superior skill sets and competencies to the project. The team has deep product knowledge, strong technical skills and has worked together on many recent projects to include several of the reference customer projects noted above. Their approach in leading an organization through an implementation is a highly desirable quality. In terms of pricing and schedule, SAP Consulting offered a complete, non-protracted project plan with the most advantageous use of Fairfax resources and provided optimal pricing for the effort.
Attachment 1 - List of Offerors for RFP10-125118-10
Attachment 2 – FOCUS 10 Guiding Principles
STAFF:
Edward L. Long, Jr., Deputy County Executive
Cathy Muse, Director, Department of Purchasing and Supply Management
Wanda Gibson, Chief Technology Officer
SAP Consulting’s superior approach and methodology to implementing SAP software was unmatched by their competitors. They have designed a project plan that maximizes resources without compromising on project goals or scope.
SAP Consulting demonstrated a comprehensive understanding of the complexity of implementing the integrated software as one system for both the County government and school system, and the understanding that Fairfax expects to maximize the capabilities of the software to ensure that its needs are completely met. SAP Consulting displayed their tight integration with and ability to reach into the SAP software development organization to ensure that Fairfax’s project requirements will be in line with the roadmap of future SAP software enhancements.
The SAP Consulting team assigned to Fairfax brings superior skill sets and competencies to the project. The team has deep product knowledge, strong technical skills and has worked together on many recent projects to include several of the reference customer projects noted above. Their approach in leading an organization through an implementation is a highly desirable quality. In terms of pricing and schedule, SAP Consulting offered a complete, non-protracted project plan with the most advantageous use of Fairfax resources and provided optimal pricing for the effort.
Re: Fairfax County hids $43 million screwup
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PS Implemt
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Date: June 25, 2012 02:44PM
That sounds about right for a SAP billing rate. They are wayyyyyy expensive compared to other vendors and with much less industry knowledge for public sectors. They scewed up LAUSD also.
I honestly dont understand how this company continues to win contracts.
Heaven forbid they implement payroll !!!!
WTF Deux Wrote:
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> Something's not right here. SAP wants $3.9 million
> for 11,000 hours of contract work - that's
> $354.55/hour.
>
> Who negotiated that rate for FFX County?
I honestly dont understand how this company continues to win contracts.
Heaven forbid they implement payroll !!!!
WTF Deux Wrote:
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> Something's not right here. SAP wants $3.9 million
> for 11,000 hours of contract work - that's
> $354.55/hour.
>
> Who negotiated that rate for FFX County?
Re: Fairfax County hids $43 million screwup
Posted by:
Implementor
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Date: June 25, 2012 02:49PM
ive been implementing Admin apps for public sectors for 17 years. No way in %ell would I ever want to implement SAP.
How does this company continue to win contracts. All one has to do it lookup LAUSD to see how bad they are. They have minimal industry knowledge for public sectors and have billing rates extremely high.
They "LOW BALL" the RFP to get the business, then get in and tell you they need additional hours once you are "locked in".
Anyone who has knowledge of Public Sector implementations and companies should know this.
43 mill spent already, plus 11,000 hours. Your looking at an 80 million dollar project. There are companies who can do this for less than 10 million. RIDICULOUS!!!!
How does this company continue to win contracts. All one has to do it lookup LAUSD to see how bad they are. They have minimal industry knowledge for public sectors and have billing rates extremely high.
They "LOW BALL" the RFP to get the business, then get in and tell you they need additional hours once you are "locked in".
Anyone who has knowledge of Public Sector implementations and companies should know this.
43 mill spent already, plus 11,000 hours. Your looking at an 80 million dollar project. There are companies who can do this for less than 10 million. RIDICULOUS!!!!
Re: Fairfax County hids $43 million screwup
Posted by:
Hank Moody
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Date: June 25, 2012 04:05PM
Implementor Wrote:
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> ive been implementing Admin apps for public
> sectors for 17 years. No way in %ell would I ever
> want to implement SAP.
>
> How does this company continue to win contracts.
> All one has to do it lookup LAUSD to see how bad
> they are. They have minimal industry knowledge
> for public sectors and have billing rates
> extremely high.
>
> They "LOW BALL" the RFP to get the business, then
> get in and tell you they need additional hours
> once you are "locked in".
>
> Anyone who has knowledge of Public Sector
> implementations and companies should know this.
>
> 43 mill spent already, plus 11,000 hours. Your
> looking at an 80 million dollar project. There
> are companies who can do this for less than 10
> million. RIDICULOUS!!!!
+1
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> ive been implementing Admin apps for public
> sectors for 17 years. No way in %ell would I ever
> want to implement SAP.
>
> How does this company continue to win contracts.
> All one has to do it lookup LAUSD to see how bad
> they are. They have minimal industry knowledge
> for public sectors and have billing rates
> extremely high.
>
> They "LOW BALL" the RFP to get the business, then
> get in and tell you they need additional hours
> once you are "locked in".
>
> Anyone who has knowledge of Public Sector
> implementations and companies should know this.
>
> 43 mill spent already, plus 11,000 hours. Your
> looking at an 80 million dollar project. There
> are companies who can do this for less than 10
> million. RIDICULOUS!!!!
+1
Re: Fairfax County hids $43 million screwup
Posted by:
stephen
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Date: June 25, 2012 04:37PM
Follow the money, see who in richmond got the campaign contribution.
Re: Fairfax County hids $43 million screwup
Posted by:
Not stephen
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Date: June 25, 2012 10:11PM
Oh my god, Stephen. This is for Fairfax County. Nothing, NOTHING to do with the state of Virginia. But thanks for your useless and idiotic post. Why not just go a step further and blame Obama!?
Re: Fairfax County hids $43 million screwup
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Not Stephens killer
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Date: June 26, 2012 01:39AM
It is ALL OBAMA'S fault as he is a socialist, dick-mongering faggot that REFUSES to look into the gun smuggling he agreed to which ultimately led to a boxer patrol's life taken......
Re: Fairfax County hids $43 million screwup
Posted by:
Sharon Bulova
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Date: June 26, 2012 06:29AM
This is how 90% of all SAP implementations end.
Re: Fairfax County hids $43 million screwup
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Fact Checker
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Date: June 26, 2012 06:37AM
This is old news...
Fairfax Co. suspends work on computer overhaul
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/2/890882/893852.html#msg-893852
Fairfax Co. suspends work on computer overhaul
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/2/890882/893852.html#msg-893852
Re: Fairfax County hids $43 million screwup
Posted by:
Duchess
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Date: June 26, 2012 12:33PM
Not old news - county payroll goes out via FOCUS this payday. Lots of nervous employees
Re: Fairfax County hids $43 million screwup
Posted by:
Highlander
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Date: June 26, 2012 12:43PM
I'm sure the county will be held accountable when its employees pay is screwed up, right?
I mean....the second, or third or fourth richest county in the nation WILL take care of its own, huh?
Problems have already been discovered and all employees have been advised, right?
Yeah, didn't think so either.
I mean....the second, or third or fourth richest county in the nation WILL take care of its own, huh?
Problems have already been discovered and all employees have been advised, right?
Yeah, didn't think so either.
Re: Fairfax County hids $43 million screwup
Posted by:
compgeek
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Date: June 26, 2012 12:51PM
Hids?
Re: Fairfax County hids $43 million screwup
Posted by:
Hank Moody
()
Date: June 26, 2012 01:10PM
Not stephen Wrote:
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> Oh my god, Stephen. This is for Fairfax County.
> Nothing, NOTHING to do with the state of Virginia.
> But thanks for your useless and idiotic post. Why
> not just go a step further and blame Obama!?
Hide your head up your ass if you want, but there is ALWAYS grift involved in contracts this size, whether it be in the private or public sector.
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> Oh my god, Stephen. This is for Fairfax County.
> Nothing, NOTHING to do with the state of Virginia.
> But thanks for your useless and idiotic post. Why
> not just go a step further and blame Obama!?
Hide your head up your ass if you want, but there is ALWAYS grift involved in contracts this size, whether it be in the private or public sector.
Re: Fairfax County hids $43 million screwup
Posted by:
cop out
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Date: June 26, 2012 04:33PM
How to get promoted in Fairfax Wrote:
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> Fairfax County suspends work on last leg of $43
> million computer overhaul
...
> Members of the Board of Supervisors said that such
> a massive overhaul was bound to encounter some
> glitches, but they blamed SAP for continuing
> problems and said it should not reflect badly on
> Long.
Of course. It's not the well paid, allegedly competent professionals who are paid to select and manage vendors and projects, it's the vendors fault. What a cop out!
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> Fairfax County suspends work on last leg of $43
> million computer overhaul
...
> Members of the Board of Supervisors said that such
> a massive overhaul was bound to encounter some
> glitches, but they blamed SAP for continuing
> problems and said it should not reflect badly on
> Long.
Of course. It's not the well paid, allegedly competent professionals who are paid to select and manage vendors and projects, it's the vendors fault. What a cop out!
Re: Fairfax County hids $43 million screwup
Posted by:
so transparent
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Date: June 26, 2012 04:36PM
SAP is the one! Wrote:
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> June 22, 2010
> Attachment 1 - List of Offerors for
> RFP10-125118-10
> Attachment 2 – FOCUS 10 Guiding Principles
> STAFF:
> Edward L. Long, Jr., Deputy County Executive
> Cathy Muse, Director, Department of Purchasing and
> Supply Management
> Wanda Gibson, Chief Technology Officer
>
>
>
> SAP Consulting’s superior approach and
> methodology to implementing SAP software was
> unmatched by their competitors. They have designed
> a project plan that maximizes resources without
> compromising on project goals or scope.
> SAP Consulting demonstrated a comprehensive
> understanding of the complexity of implementing
> the integrated software as one system for both the
> County government and school system, and the
> understanding that Fairfax expects to maximize the
> capabilities of the software to ensure that its
> needs are completely met. SAP Consulting displayed
> their tight integration with and ability to reach
> into the SAP software development organization to
> ensure that Fairfax’s project requirements will
> be in line with the roadmap of future SAP software
> enhancements.
> The SAP Consulting team assigned to Fairfax brings
> superior skill sets and competencies to the
> project. The team has deep product knowledge,
> strong technical skills and has worked together on
> many recent projects to include several of the
> reference customer projects noted above. Their
> approach in leading an organization through an
> implementation is a highly desirable quality. In
> terms of pricing and schedule, SAP Consulting
> offered a complete, non-protracted project plan
> with the most advantageous use of Fairfax
> resources and provided optimal pricing for the
> effort.
wanna bet this was cut and paste from the SAP proposal?
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> June 22, 2010
> Attachment 1 - List of Offerors for
> RFP10-125118-10
> Attachment 2 – FOCUS 10 Guiding Principles
> STAFF:
> Edward L. Long, Jr., Deputy County Executive
> Cathy Muse, Director, Department of Purchasing and
> Supply Management
> Wanda Gibson, Chief Technology Officer
>
>
>
> SAP Consulting’s superior approach and
> methodology to implementing SAP software was
> unmatched by their competitors. They have designed
> a project plan that maximizes resources without
> compromising on project goals or scope.
> SAP Consulting demonstrated a comprehensive
> understanding of the complexity of implementing
> the integrated software as one system for both the
> County government and school system, and the
> understanding that Fairfax expects to maximize the
> capabilities of the software to ensure that its
> needs are completely met. SAP Consulting displayed
> their tight integration with and ability to reach
> into the SAP software development organization to
> ensure that Fairfax’s project requirements will
> be in line with the roadmap of future SAP software
> enhancements.
> The SAP Consulting team assigned to Fairfax brings
> superior skill sets and competencies to the
> project. The team has deep product knowledge,
> strong technical skills and has worked together on
> many recent projects to include several of the
> reference customer projects noted above. Their
> approach in leading an organization through an
> implementation is a highly desirable quality. In
> terms of pricing and schedule, SAP Consulting
> offered a complete, non-protracted project plan
> with the most advantageous use of Fairfax
> resources and provided optimal pricing for the
> effort.
wanna bet this was cut and paste from the SAP proposal?
Re: Fairfax County hids $43 million screwup
Posted by:
they always fail
()
Date: May 29, 2013 11:58AM
They can't get this to work but we have school spirit, zoning enforcement, and plans to pay for the Arlington trolley.
Good work, Sharon Bulova and friends!
Good work, Sharon Bulova and friends!
Re: Fairfax County hids $43 million screwup
Posted by:
Sharone Bulova
()
Date: May 29, 2013 12:56PM
What the fuck do I care? It's only taxpayers' money! Suck it!
Re: Fairfax County hids $43 million screwup
Posted by:
SPEAR CHUCKER PHIL
()
Date: May 29, 2013 01:00PM
And you wonder why I drink!
Re: Fairfax County hids $43 million screwup
Posted by:
The Taxed
()
Date: May 29, 2013 09:36PM
So after all the BS mentioned above does it now work 100%, or do we need to fork over another 10 to 20 million to kick it down the road a few more years?
Should I work harder so additional taxes can be put to work on this issue?
Thanks
Should I work harder so additional taxes can be put to work on this issue?
Thanks
Re: Fairfax County hids $43 million screwup
Posted by:
Long Timer
()
Date: May 29, 2013 11:25PM
Yes, please remit an additional 10% of your anticipated gross annual income to cover the new technology enhancement surcharge. Please make checks out to the People's Democrat Party of Fairfax Oblast.
Re: Fairfax County hids $43 million screwup
Posted by:
Loyal Follower
()
Date: May 30, 2013 09:28AM
Fairfax County Schools dropped out weeks..days... before the launch?
Has anyone wondered why? or asked why?
What did they discover that Govt was not willing to admit - due to the fact that Ed Long was the leader of the pack and they have no dog in the fight when it comes to Mr. Long - so they walked away?
I would be curious to know - the system is a piece meal of crap and for each key stroke SAP wants more money - you want to properly pay your FLSA employees, then you will have to buy additional upgrades, you want to printout your paystub? then you will have buy more upgrades, you want to see your tax breakdown? then you have to buy more upgrades - the list goes on and on.. its the MONEY PIT and SAP is laughing all the way to the bank and its not over - this will cost FXCO millions/billions to keep up with the BS that SAP has sold them
SAP has a lot of BAD press, lawsuits, pull outs... reading that they get a client into the system and then continue to charge them for additional upgrades and support - "BAIT AND SWITCH"
"We have to change the way we do business to meet the SAP system" REALLY?
I guess the Schools said "Ummm .. no we will do our business the way we always have and we will find someone to meet our needs.. goodbye"
Has anyone wondered why? or asked why?
What did they discover that Govt was not willing to admit - due to the fact that Ed Long was the leader of the pack and they have no dog in the fight when it comes to Mr. Long - so they walked away?
I would be curious to know - the system is a piece meal of crap and for each key stroke SAP wants more money - you want to properly pay your FLSA employees, then you will have to buy additional upgrades, you want to printout your paystub? then you will have buy more upgrades, you want to see your tax breakdown? then you have to buy more upgrades - the list goes on and on.. its the MONEY PIT and SAP is laughing all the way to the bank and its not over - this will cost FXCO millions/billions to keep up with the BS that SAP has sold them
SAP has a lot of BAD press, lawsuits, pull outs... reading that they get a client into the system and then continue to charge them for additional upgrades and support - "BAIT AND SWITCH"
"We have to change the way we do business to meet the SAP system" REALLY?
I guess the Schools said "Ummm .. no we will do our business the way we always have and we will find someone to meet our needs.. goodbye"
Re: Fairfax County hids $43 million screwup
Posted by:
Funny Bugs
()
Date: May 30, 2013 11:47PM
Where's our local esteemed media on issues like this?
Oh, that's right, they're covering the cicada situation.
Edward R. Murrow weeps
Oh, that's right, they're covering the cicada situation.
Edward R. Murrow weeps
Re: Fairfax County hids $43 million screwup
Posted by:
Sharon Taxalot Bulova
()
Date: May 31, 2013 05:54AM
I tell the media what to cover, and we are not interested in this nonstory.
Re: Fairfax County hids $43 million screwup
Posted by:
Oh my!!!!!!!!!!!
()
Date: May 31, 2013 12:17PM
Th BIGGST problm i find in this post is Fairfax County "hids" the lttr "e".
Th mor mony that is invstd in tchnology th dumbr the studnts bcom.
Just look at Thomas Jffrson.
---- The county should invest it's money in buying vowels, not iPods.
Th mor mony that is invstd in tchnology th dumbr the studnts bcom.
Just look at Thomas Jffrson.
---- The county should invest it's money in buying vowels, not iPods.
Re: Fairfax County hids $43 million screwup
Posted by:
Punish SAP
()
Date: May 31, 2013 02:02PM
SAP should be barred, permanently, from any County procurement. The County should prosecute SAP officials for fraud.
Re: Fairfax County hids $43 million screwup
Posted by:
Bunch of SAPs
()
Date: June 01, 2013 08:34PM
Someone in the media should FOCUS on this problem. Terrible waste of money.
Poor SAPs who pay taxes. I'm sure someone made a fortune on this deal. Any retired county staff working for the vendor now?
Interesting conflict.
Poor SAPs who pay taxes. I'm sure someone made a fortune on this deal. Any retired county staff working for the vendor now?
Interesting conflict.
Re: Fairfax County hids $43 million screwup
Posted by:
Sorry I voted for Obama
()
Date: June 02, 2013 06:32AM
time to clean house, I'd say.
Re: Fairfax County hids $43 million screwup
Posted by:
uh-huh
()
Date: June 03, 2013 05:57PM
I just have to think the IRS should check it out, make sure it's all ok.
Re: Fairfax County hids $43 million screwup
Posted by:
how about
()
Date: June 04, 2013 12:03PM
More like the FBI.
Re: Fairfax County hids $43 million screwup
Posted by:
truth in government
()
Date: June 04, 2013 12:05PM
FBI =
Flashy But Incompetent
Foreign Born Italians
Fan Belt Inspectors
please.
Flashy But Incompetent
Foreign Born Italians
Fan Belt Inspectors
please.
Re: Fairfax County hids $43 million screwup
Posted by:
Harry Truman
()
Date: June 04, 2013 02:06PM
Where does the buck stop? Sharon Bulova? Ed Long?
Re: Fairfax County hids $43 million screwup
Posted by:
techie pls interpret
()
Date: June 04, 2013 06:10PM
Response to Questions on the FY 2014 Budget
Request By: Supervisor Frey
Question: Provide a summary of the Fairfax County Unified System (FOCUS) project funding and
identify which phases are complete and which are remaining.
Response: Fairfax County purchased SAP software in 2009. The County entered into a contract
with SAP for Implementation services in 2010. Payment of $3.75 million has been made
to SAP for the software, and to date $27.66 million has been paid for implementation
services. Fairfax has only made implementation services payments to SAP for
functionality that has been successfully implemented and resulted in phase close out.
At the time of implementation services contract signing, the scope of the system
included: General Ledger; Budget; Accounts Payable; Accounts Receivable; Fixed
Assets; Grant Accounting; Project Accounting; Inventory; Purchasing; Treasury
Management; Personnel Administration; Benefits Administration; Risk Management;
Time and Attendance; Payroll; and Training Administration.
FOCUS was implemented in two major phases: replacing central financial and logistics
(procurement functions) management "core" systems (FILO) functionality for Fairfax
County Government and Fairfax County Public Schools (FCPS) in November 2011 and
implementing the core human capital management (HCM) system for Fairfax County
Government in June 2012.
The first major phase, FILO, has been closed out. It should be noted that during the
course of the implementation, the Risk Management module was descoped based on the
fact that SAP could not implement the functionality without additional software
purchased by the County.
Request By: Supervisor Frey
Question: Provide a summary of the Fairfax County Unified System (FOCUS) project funding and
identify which phases are complete and which are remaining.
Response: Fairfax County purchased SAP software in 2009. The County entered into a contract
with SAP for Implementation services in 2010. Payment of $3.75 million has been made
to SAP for the software, and to date $27.66 million has been paid for implementation
services. Fairfax has only made implementation services payments to SAP for
functionality that has been successfully implemented and resulted in phase close out.
At the time of implementation services contract signing, the scope of the system
included: General Ledger; Budget; Accounts Payable; Accounts Receivable; Fixed
Assets; Grant Accounting; Project Accounting; Inventory; Purchasing; Treasury
Management; Personnel Administration; Benefits Administration; Risk Management;
Time and Attendance; Payroll; and Training Administration.
FOCUS was implemented in two major phases: replacing central financial and logistics
(procurement functions) management "core" systems (FILO) functionality for Fairfax
County Government and Fairfax County Public Schools (FCPS) in November 2011 and
implementing the core human capital management (HCM) system for Fairfax County
Government in June 2012.
The first major phase, FILO, has been closed out. It should be noted that during the
course of the implementation, the Risk Management module was descoped based on the
fact that SAP could not implement the functionality without additional software
purchased by the County.
Re: Fairfax County hids $43 million screwup
Posted by:
JustanFYI
()
Date: June 04, 2013 08:34PM
techie pls interpret Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Response to Questions on the FY 2014 Budget
> Request By: Supervisor Frey
>
> Question: Provide a summary of the Fairfax County
> Unified System (FOCUS) project funding and
> identify which phases are complete and which are
> remaining.
>
> Response: Fairfax County purchased SAP software in
> 2009. The County entered into a contract
> with SAP for Implementation services in 2010.
> Payment of $3.75 million has been made
> to SAP for the software, and to date $27.66
> million has been paid for implementation
> services. Fairfax has only made implementation
> services payments to SAP for
> functionality that has been successfully
> implemented and resulted in phase close out.
> At the time of implementation services contract
> signing, the scope of the system
> included: General Ledger; Budget; Accounts
> Payable; Accounts Receivable; Fixed
> Assets; Grant Accounting; Project Accounting;
> Inventory; Purchasing; Treasury
> Management; Personnel Administration; Benefits
> Administration; Risk Management;
> Time and Attendance; Payroll; and Training
> Administration.
> FOCUS was implemented in two major phases:
> replacing central financial and logistics
> (procurement functions) management "core" systems
> (FILO) functionality for Fairfax
> County Government and Fairfax County Public
> Schools (FCPS) in November 2011 and
> implementing the core human capital management
> (HCM) system for Fairfax County
> Government in June 2012.
> The first major phase, FILO, has been closed out.
> It should be noted that during the
> course of the implementation, the Risk Management
> module was descoped based on the
> fact that SAP could not implement the
> functionality without additional software
> purchased by the County.
Sounds like someone is up to speed in their project management skill sets. I see a lot of PMI terminology.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Response to Questions on the FY 2014 Budget
> Request By: Supervisor Frey
>
> Question: Provide a summary of the Fairfax County
> Unified System (FOCUS) project funding and
> identify which phases are complete and which are
> remaining.
>
> Response: Fairfax County purchased SAP software in
> 2009. The County entered into a contract
> with SAP for Implementation services in 2010.
> Payment of $3.75 million has been made
> to SAP for the software, and to date $27.66
> million has been paid for implementation
> services. Fairfax has only made implementation
> services payments to SAP for
> functionality that has been successfully
> implemented and resulted in phase close out.
> At the time of implementation services contract
> signing, the scope of the system
> included: General Ledger; Budget; Accounts
> Payable; Accounts Receivable; Fixed
> Assets; Grant Accounting; Project Accounting;
> Inventory; Purchasing; Treasury
> Management; Personnel Administration; Benefits
> Administration; Risk Management;
> Time and Attendance; Payroll; and Training
> Administration.
> FOCUS was implemented in two major phases:
> replacing central financial and logistics
> (procurement functions) management "core" systems
> (FILO) functionality for Fairfax
> County Government and Fairfax County Public
> Schools (FCPS) in November 2011 and
> implementing the core human capital management
> (HCM) system for Fairfax County
> Government in June 2012.
> The first major phase, FILO, has been closed out.
> It should be noted that during the
> course of the implementation, the Risk Management
> module was descoped based on the
> fact that SAP could not implement the
> functionality without additional software
> purchased by the County.
Sounds like someone is up to speed in their project management skill sets. I see a lot of PMI terminology.
Re: Fairfax County hids $43 million screwup
Posted by:
Where are Savings / Streamline
()
Date: February 20, 2014 09:28AM
Two years has passed after the costly upgrade to SAP and has anyone seen the savings or streamlining of operations? The SAP model is have continuous business process improvements via automation with minimal intervention.
Re: Fairfax County hids $43 million screwup
Posted by:
DuhDuhDuh
()
Date: February 20, 2014 09:51AM
"Current Fairfax County officials should be barred, permanently, from any County procurement. The Commonwealth should prosecute FFX County officials for fraud"
FIFY.
FIFY.
Re: Fairfax County hids $43 million screwup
Posted by:
FIRE ED LONG
()
Date: February 20, 2014 01:57PM
Ed Long should have been fired a long time ago. It is not too late. The man is utterly incompetent and out of touch with what is really going on.
He thinks his shit doesn't stink, and he does not return emails.
He thinks his shit doesn't stink, and he does not return emails.
Re: Fairfax County hids $43 million screwup
Posted by:
HOCUS POKUS
()
Date: February 20, 2014 06:35PM
What a bull shit system, this county pisses more money than you can shake a stick at. I got two words to say.....SUCK IT!!
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