OK, below is the link to the murder that happened in Vienna. So, what was written on the driveway?


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/03/AR2008030302819.html?hpid=sec-metro

I know Marysusan (very superficially) from prior years when my kids were in classes at the Flint Hill School with her boys. It was painfully obvious that Marysusan had some mental health issues but I don't think anyone suspected that she was capable of murder. I also don't know what was written on the driveway but it was probably a bunch of paranoid nonsense...it likely doesn't have a base in reality.

Her boys are very quiet, very obedient. I feel so badly for them and this should never have happened. I didn't know her husband very well so anything is possible, but I think he is probably a truly innocent victim. God help them all.

And I don't think whatever was written on the driveway will be of any help other than illustrate her mental health issues.

This is a tragedy. I also felt bad that they had to take all the pets to a shelter. Those poor kids have lost their dad, their mom, and also their pets. How sad.

I was an infrequent workplace acquaintenance of Ron's at DOT. He seemed like a good, quiet guy and I feel bad for him, his kids, and his coworkers that will miss him. I never met his family but Ron was always nice to me. Looks like he was just about around retirement age... what a way to go after a long life of looking forward toward retirement.

this was on the door
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REDRUM! REDRUM!

But the article said something about their sex life or whatever. Or maybe she just spray painted "mother f-er" on the driveway and that's how the press translated it. Who knows, I am sure the details will come out.

She sounds like one crazy bitch.

She saved a box turtle, though. Good for her.

WashingToneLocian Wrote:
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> She sounds like one crazy bitch.

sounds about right.


> She saved a box turtle, though. Good for her.

lol

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[url
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/03/AR2008030302819.html[/url] ]Jeanne Giguere, the victim's mother, who lives in Florida, said she last spoke to her son a couple of weeks ago.

"They had a troubled relationship," she said of her son and daughter-in-law. "It was a lot of work for him." But she said he had not mentioned any specific problems when they spoke by phone. "He wasn't the type to complain much," she said.

sounds like she's a real winner when it says "It was a lot of work for him." high maintaince = crazy bitch


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

"I'm married to that crazy bitch, Call me Kevin Federline"

More on the story: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/04/AR2008030401545.html

A Vienna woman charged with killing her husband told police she fatally shot him, but only after he threatened to kill her first, punched her in the eye and swung a hammer at her, according to court records.

Marysusan Giguere, a stay-at-home mother of two middle-school aged boys, spray-painted allegations about her husband in a lengthy diatribe on the driveway, including references to their sexual relationship, according to law enforcement sources.

Just as she had alluded to in the spray-painted message, she told police her husband had "several boxes of hardcore pornography" inside the house and also had "child pornography on their home computer," the affidavit said.

Not only does she kill him, but then she rats him out on the porno.

Wow, she -is- a bitch.

Holy crap! What if what she's saying is true?!!! You have to give her props for thinking to spray paint her statement on the driveway. No stinking note that someone can throw away or keep secret.

Well, I honestly don't know what to think. I guess the forensic/computer evidence and testimony of her sons will prove whether or not she's telling the truth.

I am still deeply saddened for the two boys. Either way, they don't deserve this tragedy.

Well, if she is telling the truth she should have a shitload of injuries to show for it. I say she's nuts.

Marriage worked out well for this couple.

bk Wrote:
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> Not only does she kill him, but then she rats him
> out on the porno.
>
> Wow, she -is- a bitch.

Guess you better ditch your kiddie porn! The county is in the middle of tracking your type down.

Well, she doesn't have a black eye in her photo, so I have to kind of doubt her credibility from the start.

> The county is in the middle of tracking your type down.

Maybe while they're at it, they can send over a cruiser to take you back to the 60's where you belong.

bk Wrote:
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> > The county is in the middle of tracking your
> type down.
>
> Maybe while they're at it, they can send over a
> cruiser to take you back to the 60's where you
> belong.


What's wrong with a peace loving generation? Better than the "what can you do for me" time we are stuck in!!

Her stories are such that they are easily confirmed if true, and equally discredited if not true. They can confiscate his PC, and she should have injuries consistent with blocking hammers with her arms and such. If her allegations are correct then they will be confirmed. If not, then it's another example of claiming abuse to justify a murder.

Lexicon Wrote:
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> More on the story:
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic
> le/2008/03/04/AR2008030401545.html
>
> A Vienna woman charged with killing her husband
> told police she fatally shot him, but only after
> he threatened to kill her first, punched her in
> the eye and swung a hammer at her, according to
> court records.

Thank God she had a gun...Hammers can cause real damage and there is no way to defend yourself against someone who "swung" a hammer at you and missed. Running or kicking in the balls is not an option.

But the REAL question remains: How many goats are in Fairfax County and what are they doing here?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/04/2008 07:43PM by Radiophile.

First of all I live right down the street from this house on Browns Mill RD. I would Just like it say That I feel bad for both the Boys in that house they have lost both of their parents now. I didnt no them but nothing like this has happend in this area before.. I actaully read the driveway today and It was some sick stuff yes she may have lost her mind but did you ever think about what she was going threw. The driveway writing was thought out and she had time to do that before.. This plan was well thought out and I am thinking that he came home from work there was aruging and she shot him. She might be a crazy bitch but what do you think he did??? That driveway writing was sick and she had a lot to say. BUt what did he do to make her go crazy.... and that picture of the murder wirting on the door is not real. something happend to her that made her do this.was her boys sexually abused??? Was she sexually abused my him. There is only so much a person can take. I am not saying she was right but there was something else going on

Ya is cool Wrote:
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> First of all I live right down the street from
> this house on Browns Mill RD. I would Just like it
> say That I feel bad for both the Boys in that
> house they have lost both of their parents now. I
> didnt no them but nothing like this has happend in
> this area before.. I actaully read the driveway
> today and It was some sick stuff yes she may have
> lost her mind but did you ever think about what
> she was going threw. The driveway writing was
> thought out and she had time to do that before..
> This plan was well thought out and I am thinking
> that he came home from work there was aruging and
> she shot him. She might be a crazy bitch but what
> do you think he did??? That driveway writing was
> sick and she had a lot to say. BUt what did he do
> to make her go crazy.... and that picture of the
> murder wirting on the door is not real. something
> happend to her that made her do this.was her boys
> sexually abused??? Was she sexually abused my him.
> There is only so much a person can take. I am not
> saying she was right but there was something else
> going on

Thank you. For reading this I am sure I will be disqualified from the jury pool.

Lexicon Wrote:
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> More on the story:
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic
> le/2008/03/04/AR2008030401545.html
>
> A Vienna woman charged with killing her husband
> told police she fatally shot him, but only after
> he threatened to kill her first, punched her in
> the eye and swung a hammer at her, according to
> court records.
>
> Marysusan Giguere, a stay-at-home mother of two
> middle-school aged boys, spray-painted allegations
> about her husband in a lengthy diatribe on the
> driveway, including references to their sexual
> relationship, according to law enforcement
> sources.
>
> Just as she had alluded to in the spray-painted
> message, she told police her husband had "several
> boxes of hardcore pornography" inside the house
> and also had "child pornography on their home
> computer," the affidavit said.

Lengthy diatribes are often a sign of paranoid schizophrenics who have gone off their meds and have become delusional. Think Ted Kusinski. This poor woman may well have imagined the pornography.

It seems strange to me that this couple was engaged in 1977 (presumably married that year or the next) and didn't have children until 1994 and 1996. Few couples wait 17 years to have children.

Ya is cool Wrote:
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> First of all I live right down the street from
> this house on Browns Mill RD. I would Just like it
> say That I feel bad for both the Boys in that
> house they have lost both of their parents now. I
> didnt no them but nothing like this has happend in
> this area before.. I actaully read the driveway
> today and It was some sick stuff yes she may have
> lost her mind but did you ever think about what
> she was going threw. The driveway writing was
> thought out and she had time to do that before..
> This plan was well thought out and I am thinking
> that he came home from work there was aruging and
> she shot him. She might be a crazy bitch but what
> do you think he did??? That driveway writing was
> sick and she had a lot to say. BUt what did he do
> to make her go crazy.... and that picture of the
> murder wirting on the door is not real. something
> happend to her that made her do this.was her boys
> sexually abused??? Was she sexually abused my him.
> There is only so much a person can take. I am not
> saying she was right but there was something else
> going on

Good grief. Crazy is not made, no one can make someone become delusional. Nothing MADE her crazy, she just was crazy. I'll bet she's had this happen before, I bet she's had delusional breaks with reality since her 20's. Who made Cho crazy? Or Ted Kaczynski? No one was responsible for their mental illnesses. This poor woman was mentally ill.

There is ZERO evidence that her children were sexually abused and it is ugly of you to suggest such a thing when the man is dead and cannot defend himself.

My prediction, an insanity plea, with ample evidence of paranoid schizophrenia with delusional breaks in reality, for decades.

Those poor children, their lives have been ruined. They must be so scared tonight. My heart breaks for them.

actually someone can make you crazy I have witnessed It before and I do feel bad for the childern of course... But that was just an example something obvisley wasnt right yes.. and she was probabley a little crazy but something have had to happen to get her to shoot her husband becuse why didnt she do it a long time ago... People have there own oponions.. there were a few screws loose in that womens head.. But your acting like someone cant do anything to make you crazy that you are just born like that.

Like Ya is cool, I also live down the street from the murder. I think the reason she said that the father could have done something to the boys is because there was something written about it on the driveway. I thought that maybe she had written a few words, but when I went to the house, she wrote from the top of the driveway all the way to the bottom. She rambled on and on about rape and incest and cancer and his mother. I have some pictures of it but I dont know if I want to post them here or not.

Neen Wrote:
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the man is dead and cannot
> defend himself.
>


Somebody call that Crossing Over guy and get the real scoop.

Post the damn pictures you sissy.

I was in an ER once. The guy in the room next to me had just come from a bar fight. He was drunk, bloody and ranting. He was claiming he needed to get home because "they are going to kill my family." There were cops there with the guy.

I asked somebody there what the deal was. The guy was at a bar drinking, got into a fight and got the shit kicked out of him. There was no "they" and they weren't going to kill his family.

My point is, when people are out of their freakin' minds, they come up with some paranoid shit. Is it possible the husband committed a crime? Yeah, maybe. But it is certain the wife committed a crime because she murdered him.

I will give the dead guy the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise.

They waited so long to have kids because of a disease that he had that could have been transmitted to her or the kids. I wonder if the kids were adopted?

Jackie-O! Wrote:
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> They waited so long to have kids because of a
> disease that he had that could have been
> transmitted to her or the kids. I wonder if the
> kids were adopted?


This comment is out of control.....

maybe she listened to a meade skelton song and went insane.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

i want to see the pictures

here you go...
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That woman looks a lot like this one.

http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/reports/reports2006/011306manslmillicentct.htm

Not the picture we have all seen... we want a picture of all the spraypainted diatribe on the driveway.

SaMiViMa Wrote:
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> That woman looks a lot like this one.
>
> http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/reports/report
> s2006/011306manslmillicentct.htm


the images arent there anymore. if you have them in cache, please post them.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

Yikes, that lady looks like the one who grooms my dog LOL. Thankfully, that lady lives on the other side of the area.


Does it report anywhere what was said on the driveway? Im curious.

Is Crowell considered part of Vienna? I guess it is, but when I think of Vienna, Im thinking the cut-off is like...where Trap Rd/Courthouse/Beulah split. Whatever.

Those are some freaking nice houses down there. There's one with like a 5-car garage, and one with an actual pool-house like on the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air.

This woman.
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The image “http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/file.php?2,file=2437” cannot be displayed, because it contains errors.

orly?


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

Oh forget it. ACK!


Sorry.

http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/2/10839/63663.html#msg-63663

Does this work?

of course it works. the problem isnt with FU giving me the file, it's the file itself. it doesnt even contain the correct magic numbers for the jpeg format!


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

I don't know what that means, but I assume the problem is mine?

I really don't know that much about computers. And this one was a gift from my brother. It is NOTHING like my old one. But I still use dial-up (ok. Stop laughing.) and the modem went out on my old. So...this is what I have for now.

lol!... i found the problem. it's an AOL .art image file not a jpeg!

generally a magic number is the first few bytes a file to identify what type of file it is.

more info: http://www.garykessler.net/library/file_sigs.html

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hexadecimal          ASCII translation
4A 47 03 0E 00 00 00    JG.....
4A 47 04 0E 00 00 00    JG.....

file extension: .ART
file type:      AOL ART file

save it as something else, like a jpeg.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

OK. How about now?


All this for a joke. And it's not even funny anymore. *sigh*

That's what I get for picking on someone.
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A source tells me that following preliminary investigations:


- No credible evidence that the victim was engaged in any type of pornography

- No evidence of domestic abuse

- Shooter will be sent to a hospital for court-ordered psychiatric evaluation

- Shooter allegations cannot be substantiated and appear to be fabrications



Who knows why the press cannot followup after printing her allegations but hopefully they will report the above soon.

Vienna just aint the town it used to be

anititye Wrote:
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> Vienna just aint the town it used to be


Not sure what that means, especially because this incident did not occur anywhere near the TOWN of Vienna. It's location is just shy of Reston.

haha just like the pool house on Fresh Prince of Bel Air.. man that was a great show

I talked with Mary a week before this happened. She was battling cancer and was due to get on new medication the first of that week. New cancer meds can do weird things to you. She had also complained that her husband was isolating the kids from her and she was not included in any famiy outings. She said " he treats me like I am already dead" SO- there are all sides.

Spray painting driveways is a well known measure of self defense.