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Vienna/Reston Area Armed Robberies
Posted by: Fairfax Juror ()
Date: October 28, 2011 02:23PM

I served on a federal jury this week in Fairfax on an armed bank robbery case. We found Edward Martin Andrews guilty on all counts in the robberies of four banks in the Vienna/Reston area this past summer. Andrews hasn't been sentenced yet, but the mandatory minimum sentence is 80 years. Andrews had previously been convicted of a felony.

The banks:

Congressional Bank in Reston held up 4/11/11
Cardinal Bank in Reston held up 5/13/11
United Bank in Vienna held up 5/19/11
BBT Bank in Oakton held up 6/8/11

Andrews stole a total of $14,013.

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Posted by: chuckhoffmann ()
Date: October 28, 2011 02:28PM

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Re: Vienna/Reston Area Armed Robberies
Posted by: open eyez ()
Date: October 28, 2011 02:30PM

I just ran the numbers: that dumbass is going to jail for the equivalent of $0.01 per hour, for 80 years. If he just flipped burgers at McDonald's, he could've earned that, after tax, in about 7 months. And then he would have had a 79 year, 5 month vacation.

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Re: Vienna/Reston Area Armed Robberies
Posted by: Fairfax Juror ()
Date: October 28, 2011 05:13PM

Here is some more interesting information from the case.

Andrews took a dye packs out of every bank that he robbed that tainted at least half of the money that he took. You would think that he would have learned from the first or second robbery to make sure dye packs were not hidden in the money.

He also left a cane at one bank and a mask at another one. DNA from those items led to his arrest and conviction. If he hadn't left personal items behind, he might be still out there robbing banks.

Okay, most bank robbers are not mensa candidates, but this guy wasn't smart.

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Re: Vienna/Reston Area Armed Robberies
Posted by: open eyez ()
Date: October 28, 2011 05:41PM

Ya think? It would be better to probably just execute the dumb bastard - why keep him in jail?

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Re: Vienna/Reston Area Armed Robberies
Posted by: CSI Fairfax ()
Date: October 28, 2011 05:51PM

Factoring in the figures for incarcaration, the trial, attorneys, plus various court costs you and I will end up paying hundreds of thousands of our tax dollars for this guy in the end.

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Posted by: chuckhoffmann ()
Date: October 28, 2011 05:59PM

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Re: Vienna/Reston Area Armed Robberies
Posted by: Point of Order ()
Date: October 29, 2011 11:49AM

Fairfax Juror Wrote:
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> I served on a federal jury this week in Fairfax on
> an armed bank robbery case. We found Edward
> Martin Andrews guilty on all counts in the
> robberies of four banks in the Vienna/Reston area
> this past summer. Andrews hasn't been sentenced
> yet, but the mandatory minimum sentence is 80
> years. Andrews had previously been convicted of a
> felony.
>
> The banks:
>
> Congressional Bank in Reston held up 4/11/11
> Cardinal Bank in Reston held up 5/13/11
> United Bank in Vienna held up 5/19/11
> BBT Bank in Oakton held up 6/8/11
>
> Andrews stole a total of $14,013.

It is quite apparent that you are extremely proud of your and your fellow jurors' efforts. From some of the succeeding posts, it sounds like the evidence against him was strong.

Just so you know, if you were in Fairfax, you were not on a "federal" jury, as there is no federal court in Fairfax. The closest one to this area is in Alexandria.

I am guessing that you were in Fairfax County Circuit Court.

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Re: Vienna/Reston Area Armed Robberies
Posted by: Fairfax Juror ()
Date: October 29, 2011 06:34PM

Point of Order Wrote:
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> Fairfax Juror Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I served on a federal jury this week in Fairfax
> on
> > an armed bank robbery case. We found Edward
> > Martin Andrews guilty on all counts in the
> > robberies of four banks in the Vienna/Reston
> area
> > this past summer. Andrews hasn't been
> sentenced
> > yet, but the mandatory minimum sentence is 80
> > years. Andrews had previously been convicted of
> a
> > felony.
> >
> > The banks:
> >
> > Congressional Bank in Reston held up 4/11/11
> > Cardinal Bank in Reston held up 5/13/11
> > United Bank in Vienna held up 5/19/11
> > BBT Bank in Oakton held up 6/8/11
> >
> > Andrews stole a total of $14,013.
>
> It is quite apparent that you are extremely proud
> of your and your fellow jurors' efforts. From
> some of the succeeding posts, it sounds like the
> evidence against him was strong.
>
> Just so you know, if you were in Fairfax, you were
> not on a "federal" jury, as there is no federal
> court in Fairfax. The closest one to this area is
> in Alexandria.
>
> I am guessing that you were in Fairfax County
> Circuit Court.


I'm not that proud about serving on the jury. I just wanted to report on the trial since I didn't see any press on it. I think just about any jury would have found him guilty with all the evidence that was presented.

The trial took place at the Federal Courthouse in Alexandria. I thought the courthouse was in the Fairfax County section of Alexandria, but I could be wrong.

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Re: Vienna/Reston Area Armed Robberies
Posted by: Two Cents ()
Date: October 29, 2011 09:20PM

Did this suspect have a criminal background? Had he robbed other banks before?

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Re: Vienna/Reston Area Armed Robberies
Posted by: Snapple ()
Date: October 29, 2011 10:29PM

80 years seems harsh, that's pretty much a life sentence and usually you have to kill someone to get that.

Was this legit armed robbery with a loaded gun, or was it a bluff where he was carrying a fake gun, threatening note or something like that?

Note to self: If hard-up for cash, get into white collar crime, not bank robbery.

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Posted by: chuckhoffmann ()
Date: October 29, 2011 11:28PM

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Re: Vienna/Reston Area Armed Robberies
Posted by: Fairfax Juror ()
Date: October 30, 2011 08:19AM

Snapple Wrote:
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> 80 years seems harsh, that's pretty much a life
> sentence and usually you have to kill someone to
> get that.
>
> Was this legit armed robbery with a loaded gun, or
> was it a bluff where he was carrying a fake gun,
> threatening note or something like that?
>
> Note to self: If hard-up for cash, get into white
> collar crime, not bank robbery.

The jury was only told that Andrews had been previously convicted of a felony with a sentence longer than one year. The gun he used in the crimes was recovered after the 4th robbery and it was a real, loaded 9 mm. There were 12 charges in all, the 4 robberies and 8 gun charges.

Also, he pistol whipped a bank teller in one of the bank robberies.

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Posted by: chuckhoffmann ()
Date: November 01, 2011 04:19PM

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Re: Vienna/Reston Area Armed Robberies
Posted by: Droopy ()
Date: November 01, 2011 09:42PM

Fantastic. Ah, the pleasant results the agencies of the DoJ give us with all of the money that is allocated to them.

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Re: Vienna/Reston Area Armed Robberies
Posted by: ITRADE ()
Date: November 01, 2011 09:45PM

Fairfax Juror Wrote:
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> I served on a federal jury this week in Fairfax on
> an armed bank robbery case. We found Edward
> Martin Andrews guilty on all counts in the
> robberies of four banks in the Vienna/Reston area
> this past summer. Andrews hasn't been sentenced
> yet, but the mandatory minimum sentence is 80
> years. Andrews had previously been convicted of a
> felony.
>
> The banks:
>
> Congressional Bank in Reston held up 4/11/11
> Cardinal Bank in Reston held up 5/13/11
> United Bank in Vienna held up 5/19/11
> BBT Bank in Oakton held up 6/8/11
>
> Andrews stole a total of $14,013.


Bank robberies committed as recent as 5 months ago, and there has already been a trial? I know EDVa has a rocket docket, but, that is swift.

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Re: Vienna/Reston Area Armed Robberies
Posted by: Fairfax Juror ()
Date: November 01, 2011 09:56PM

chuckhoffmann Wrote:
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> Something was itching at the back of my skull
> about this case, so I went back and re-read the
> articles about the capture of Edward Martin
> Andrews.
>
> In this article, it says "The FBI had placed a GPS
> tracker on the car Andrews used the day before the
> robbery based on evidence gathered in other
> robberies."
>
> Additionally, in this article, it says that "After
> observing the SUV ...for a few weeks, law
> enforcement officials placed a GPS tracker on the
> vehicle June 7, the day before the BB&T Bank was
> robbed."
>
> Are you fucking kidding me?
>
> Andrews was captured after a high speed chase that
> injured two bystanders, which is what truly frosts
> me.
>
> The FBI had traced the car to the house where
> Iverson lived, but rather than arrest him or even
> bring him in for questioning, it seems like they
> just waited for him to do it again, then placed a
> tracking device on his car when they got tired of
> waiting.
>
> To reiterate my point, the FBI was so focused on
> catching the bad guy red-handed that they allowed
> him to commit another bank robbery with a loaded 9
> mm pistol and then initiate a high-speed pursuit
> that ultimately injured two bystanders.
>
> http://oakton.patch.com/articles/bank-robber-suspe
> ct-already-had-fbi-tracker-on-suv
> http://oakton.patch.com/articles/police-search-for
> -armed-suspect-in-oakton-bank-robbery
> http://reston.patch.com/articles/man-convicted-in-
> oakton-bank-robbery-three-others


Chuck - I guess the FBI figured they didn't have enough evidence against Andrews without catching him in the act, although he did leave his DNA at or near two of the banks. Without the evidence of the BB&T robbery, I think a jury of 12 people might have had a hard time convicting him. It is unfortunate that people got hurt before he was caught.

I find it interesting that after Andrews robbed BB&T bank, he traveled from Oakton to Alexandria without being tailed by the Police. The police officer that caught him testified that he was waiting on 495 near the Van Dorn exit and started following Andrews at that point. Was the GPS not working correctly? You would think the FBI would have been waiting for Andrews outside of the fourth bank.

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Posted by: chuckhoffmann ()
Date: November 01, 2011 11:19PM

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Re: Vienna/Reston Area Armed Robberies
Posted by: pinky ()
Date: November 28, 2013 02:15PM

Unfortunately, I knew this guy. He did not live at the address. He was lying to the car's owner about why he needed the car. The police knew who he was,they were waiting for him to show up. He didn't I guess, so they had to place tracker on car. Sister is a very sweet person who was led to. Sneed Robert also had not started in Oxon Hill in a very long time.

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Re: Vienna/Reston Area Armed Robberies
Posted by: what else is new? ()
Date: November 29, 2013 01:27PM

I'm guessing nigger.

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Re: Vienna/Reston Area Armed Robberies
Posted by: Same Ol, Same Ol ()
Date: November 29, 2013 01:46PM

Obama's son doing to banks what Obama's doing to America.

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Re: Vienna/Reston Area Armed Robberies
Posted by: xdfdbdfg ()
Date: November 29, 2013 02:02PM

I was on a jury in Fairfax and gave a guy 42 years for murder.

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