Hello,

I'm new to this forum, but have been a lurker for ages. I've got a question about the history of I-66. I'm looking at a picture of the intersection of 29 and 123, near the 29 Diner. This picture looks like it's from the 60s, yet there is a sign for I-66. I didn't think I-66 opened until the early 80s. Am I correct about this and, if so, were there signs for I-66 up in the 60s, even though the interstate wasn't open for travel yet? I know that planning for the interstate had been in the works since the late 50s.

Mike



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Gonna at least post the picture? I like to see old-school FFXCo.

Interstate 66 originally connected the Beltway (495) to I-81. The segment inside the Beltway was added in the 80's.

The Tasty 29 was located on a section of the freeway that had existed since the 60's.

Here's some trivia for you.... Virginia has the distinction of having the only non "interstate" interstate. I-66 runs it's entire length inside the commonwealth.

Mike-I-66 west (outside) of the beltway was constructed earlier than the segment east of the beltway.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_66

According to this it has exits in DC. but since DC is really not a state, i guess you could still say it's not a interstate highway.

I know everything Wrote:
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> Interstate 66 originally connected the Beltway
> (495) to I-81. The segment inside the Beltway was
> added in the 80's.
>
> The Tasty 29 was located on a section of the
> freeway that had existed since the 60's.
>
> Here's some trivia for you.... Virginia has the
> distinction of having the only non "interstate"
> interstate. I-66 runs it's entire length inside
> the commonwealth.

I know everything Wrote:
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> Interstate 66 originally connected the Beltway
> (495) to I-81. The segment inside the Beltway was
> added in the 80's.
>
> The Tasty 29 was located on a section of the
> freeway that had existed since the 60's.
>
> Here's some trivia for you.... Virginia has the
> distinction of having the only non "interstate"
> interstate. I-66 runs it's entire length inside
> the commonwealth.

What about I-270, I-97, I-695, I-895, and I-195 in Maryland?

What about I-64 doesn't that only go from va beach to 81

Yeah, "I know everything" doesn't know anything. Even if you leave out the various beltways that every major city has... I-97 in Maryland, I-45 and I-27 in Texas, I-196 in Michigan, I-380 in Iowa and probably 100 others are all intrastate highways that are designated as interstate.

Bill N Wrote:
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> Mike-I-66 west (outside) of the beltway was
> constructed earlier than the segment east of the
> beltway.


Um.

27, 45, and 37 in Texas.
49 and 12 in Louisiana.
87 and 88 in New York.
64 in Virginia.
43 in Wisconsin.
16 in Georgia.
97 in Maryland.
19 in Arizona.
99 in Pennsylvania.

Thank you and goodnight, Trollster McTrollface.

My bad. Quoted the wrong guy.

First of all, I-64 jogs down I-81 and continues out west into West Virginia and all the way out to St. Louis.

Second, I don't think the triple-digit interstates count against the naming scheme, because they're designed for specific, short purposes. In general, if the first of 3 digits is odd, it goes into the city; if it's even, it goes around. There are some exceptions, but this is mostly true.

Third, as someone already mentioned, I-66 technically goes into D.C. You argue that D.C. isn't technically a state, but the road at least leaves Virginia, albeit very briefly.

Fourth, there are other examples of roads that stay inside a state - but someone has already listed them. I-97 has the distinction of being (I believe) the only interstate to exist solely within a single county, as well as neither end terminating against a double-digit interstate. (I-695 and US-50).

Hey OP, how about...the...fucking...pic? Goddamn...

I know everything Wrote:
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>
> Here's some trivia for you.... Virginia has the distinction of having the only non "interstate" interstate. I-66 runs it's entire length inside
the commonwealth.


Hawaii has interstate highways, and I'm pretty sure those roads don't connect to other states. ;)

The H1 in Hawaii is technically classified as an interstate so you would have to toss it in the mix as well.

lawlz Wrote:
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> Bill N Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Mike-I-66 west (outside) of the beltway was
> > constructed earlier than the segment east of
> the
> > beltway.
>
>
> Um.
>
> 27, 45, and 37 in Texas.
> 49 and 12 in Louisiana.
> 87 and 88 in New York.
> 64 in Virginia.
> 43 in Wisconsin.
> 16 in Georgia.
> 97 in Maryland.
> 19 in Arizona.
> 99 in Pennsylvania.
>
> Thank you and goodnight, Trollster McTrollface.

Originally I-66 went from the beltway and ended in Gainsville. You had to take 55 from there to hit Front Royal. It was sometime in the late 70's early 80's that they completed 66 to 81.

Thank you for all the responses! They clear things up quite a bit. The picture I am referring to does not belong to me and it's in a private album. I'm waiting for permission to post it before I add it to this thread.

Mike

I know everything Wrote:
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....
>
> Here's some trivia for you.... Virginia has the
> distinction of having the only non "interstate"
> interstate. I-66 runs it's entire length inside
> the commonwealth.

As others have noted, I-66 enters DC and ends near the Watergate complex.

Moreover, there are several single-state one- or two-digit Interstates. As others have said, three-digit Interstates don't count for this purpose:

I-4's entire length is in Florida.
I-12 and I-49 are entirely in Louisiana.
I-16's entire length is in Georgia.
I-17 and I-19 are both entirely in Arizona.
I-27, I-37, and I-45 are entirely in Texas. I-45 is the only 2di ending in "5" or "0" to be entirely in one state. (Numbers ending in "5" and "0" are supposed to be reserved for the longest 2di routes.)
The western I-86 is entirely in Idaho.
I-87 is entirely in New York.
The western I-88 is entirely in Illinois and the eastern I-88 is entirely in New York.
I-96 is entirely in Michigan.
I-97 is entirely in Maryland.
I-99, which is a numbering violation anyway, is entirely in Pennsylvania, although it may later be extended.

H-1, H-2, and H-3 are all in Hawaii.

Unsigned A-1, A-2, A-3, and A-4 are in Alaska and unsigned PRI-1, PRI-2, and PRI-3 are in Puerto Rico.



I-87's entire le

Here is the picture. It's not the intersection of 123 and 29, as I initially stated, but I'm guessing it's close by:



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That is indeed probably 123 and 29. Remember that US-50 has a concurrency with US-29 from Fairfax Circle west to the intersection near Fairfax Honda where Best Products used to have a store. US-29 then continues west towards Centreville while US-50 heads out Lee-Jackson Highway past Fair Oaks towards Chantilly.

US-29 and US-211 used to have a concurrency all the way from Warrenton to DC (US-211 ended somewhere around Key Bridge), but in 1980 it was truncated to its current end in Warrenton.

The Gulf station in that picture appears to be located on the property of what is now an Exxon station, which is next to a Denny's. The picture appears to have been taken from just in front of what is now a Rite Aid.

mikecash33 Wrote:
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> Here is the picture. It's not the intersection of
> 123 and 29, as I initially stated, but I'm
> guessing it's close by:

Nice picture. Thank you for posting it, OP. Goddamn...

I used to ride my bike on the section just west of 495 while it was being built. That was around 1962-1963. It was open during the blizzard of 66 and completely shut down.

1995hoo Wrote:
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> The Gulf station in that picture appears to be
> located on the property of what is now an Exxon
> station, which is next to a Denny's. The picture
> appears to have been taken from just in front of
> what is now a Rite Aid.


I'm thinking the large building at the back left is the Verizon building

I think it might be the old movie theater

KeepOnTruckin Wrote:
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> 1995hoo Wrote:
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> > The Gulf station in that picture appears to be
> > located on the property of what is now an Exxon
> > station, which is next to a Denny's. The
> picture
> > appears to have been taken from just in front
> of
> > what is now a Rite Aid.
>
>
> I'm thinking the large building at the back left
> is the Verizon building

If you go to Historic Aerials

http://www.historicaerials.com/

you can see I-66 being built from aerial photos from 1962, 1963, 1964.

Just as an example I have attached a composite of aerial photos of the I66/Rt. 50 interchange - the year of the photo indicated on the side tab.

As an aside, this is a great site and you can buy the hi-res photos w/o the logo.
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>>>> If you go to Historic Aerials

>>>>> http://www.historicaerials.com/

>>>>> you can see I-66 being built from aerial photos from 1962, 1963, 1964.


Very cool site! I didn't know this existed.

Mike

Wiki knows all

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_intrastate_Interstate_Highways

1995hoo Wrote:
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> That is indeed probably 123 and 29.

> The Gulf station in that picture appears to be
> located on the property of what is now an Exxon
> station, which is next to a Denny's.

Yes, of course that's exactly where the sign is.
(And if I had any doubt...well, I had breakfast at that Denny's this morning.)

Here are some cool pics of the construction of I-66 inside the beltway during the 1980's. Imagine living in a house right next to that and being like "oh fuck me..."

(Source: http://www.roadstothefuture.com/I66_VA_Const.html)

They should have built it wider inside the beltway to begin with. It would have cost us far less.

Those aerial historic photos are so cool.

3 lanes Wrote:
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> They should have built it wider inside the beltway
> to begin with. It would have cost us far less.


The folks in the People's Republic of Arlington teamed up with the dusties in DeeCee and not only fought tooth and nail to keep it 2 lanes, but kept it from being built until the 1980s and not cut through DEE CEE

Route openings. The first section of I-66 to open to traffic was on Dec. 16, 1961 with the 8.6-mile-long section from US-29 at Gainesville to US-29 at Centreville. The 12.9-mile-long section from Centreville to I-495 opened in November 1964, completing the 21.5-mile-long highway from Gainesville to I-495, and providing a direct connection to 4-lane divided US-29 from Gainesville to Warrenton. An isolated 3.3-mile-long section of I-66 near Delaplane in Fauquier County was opened in May 1962. The Theodore Roosevelt Bridge opened on June 23, 1964, and an 0.2 mile extension section to Rosslyn opened in Oct. 1966. The 6.6-mile-long section of I-66 from I-81 to US-340/US-522 north of Front Royal opened in Oct. 1971. The 15.6-mile-long section from US-340 to I-66 at Delaplane was completed in August 1979. The 2.9 miles from I-66 at Delaplane to US-17 east of Marshall was completed in 2 sections in 1978 and 1979. The 11.7 miles from US-17 at Marshall to US-15 at Haymarket opened in Dec. 1979, and the final 3.1 mile I-66 rural link from US-15 to I-66 and US-29 at Gainesville opened Dec. 19, 1980. The final section of I-66 to be completed was the 9.61-mile-long urban expressway from I-495 to US-29 at Rosslyn, and that opened on Dec. 22, 1982, completing I-66.

http://www.roadstothefuture.com/I66_VA_Desc.html

The picture was taken EB Rt. 50 at 123.

newgatedenizen Wrote:
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> If you go to Historic Aerials
>
> http://www.historicaerials.com/
>
> you can see I-66 being built from aerial photos
> from 1962, 1963, 1964.
>
> Just as an example I have attached a composite of
> aerial photos of the I66/Rt. 50 interchange - the
> year of the photo indicated on the side tab.
>
> As an aside, this is a great site and you can buy
> the hi-res photos w/o the logo.


the aerials you posted are of 66 at 50, not 123. oops.

Interstate 64 goes from Chesapeake VA to Wentzville Missouri. A total distance of 954 miles. Driven that in one day!

reality1 Wrote:
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> Interstate 64 goes from Chesapeake VA to
> Wentzville Missouri. A total distance of 954
> miles. Driven that in one day!

I drive from Fairfax to New Orleans in one day frequentely. 1100 mile door to door in slightly over 14 hours. This includes stopping for food, fuel, bathroom and I take Rt 29 all the way to I85.

Do the math on this one!!

I know everything Wrote:
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>
> Here's some trivia for you.... Virginia has the
> distinction of having the only non "interstate"
> interstate. I-66 runs it's entire length inside
> the commonwealth.


What about H-1 and H-2?

lawlz Wrote:
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> Bill N Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Mike-I-66 west (outside) of the beltway was
> > constructed earlier than the segment east of
> the
> > beltway.
>
>
> Um.
>
> 27, 45, and 37 in Texas.
> 49 and 12 in Louisiana.
> 87 and 88 in New York.
> 64 in Virginia.
> 43 in Wisconsin.
> 16 in Georgia.
> 97 in Maryland.
> 19 in Arizona.
> 99 in Pennsylvania.
>
> Thank you and goodnight, Trollster McTrollface.


I-64 goes well into West Virginia.