Caused 80,000 hits in two hours.
DESTROYED the server.

Hopefully everything has calmed down now.
Good luck rstidman, I'd buy a shotgun.

More information when I get home from work.

I didn't get the chance to listen, could someone post exactly what he said about fairfaxunderground/rstidman?

What can I say, feeling the love

Cary and rstid, check your PMs.
Let me know when you have it so I can take it down.

Don and Mike are a great part of my life and I hope they trace your IP or he finds someone like me that can do it and who knows maybe get him in trouble for screwing around on the computer in his moms basement.

What is this fascination with getting people's IPs?
Are you going to try and DDoS a verizon/cox/comcast/earthlink home account or something?
Yeah, that'll work.

When you get his IP are you going to "ping of death" him? Or better yet, you can winnuke him. That will be a riot.

Lay odds that they will never find this person and even if they did what the hell are they going to do... If I was the guy I will call them on the air

What exactly was said anyway?

lol theres alota huffn and puffn goin on

Rob, I am so proud of you right now.

To rstidman, I voiced my thoughts to you back in early July when you had the unbelievable nerve to make those mean-sprited comments about Freda and then to post personal info...as I recall I called you an Ass-hat ( and I don't cuss, but you pushed me too far!)...Now you must contend with the "WRATH OF GLADYS" and fellow followers of The Don & Mike Show. I'm not a "karma" person. I do believe there is pay back.. "what go around comes around". I wish you no harm,but someday something might happen in your life that will shake your very core as did Don & his family , and there will be those of your twisted group that will be as mean & cruel. Do the right thing. Aplogize, though I don't think it will be recieved or deserved.

I have an MP3 dump of the show... how far in was this discussed?

I think it was between the 20 minute mark and the 40 minute mark, but I never heard him say the name of the site.

Okay, here's a basic rundown:

- He found site through Google but didn't give URL
- Said on day she died, someone posted Freda's speeding tickets
- He "has people who know some things about the Internet" and he would find info on the person
- Said he would post that person's info on their web site

He's basically pissed that his address was online and said if anything happens to his house he's going after these people. Said he'd smack the poster's face, offered to do it at the station and then the person could sue Don and he wouldn't care.

Acknowledged all the info was public.

Of course, now something could happen to this person's house and he has a public radio recording of the threat :)

Woop-dee-do.

Just delete the friggin posts with her address on it (and other posts with other certain addresses on it if you get my drift) and the whole thing will probably go away.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/15/2005 10:44PM by pgens.

Meh

Beth (the producer, I think) emailed me a MONTH ago (7/13/05) and kindly asked that the post with the Geronimo/Sorce home address be removed... and I did. (Well, not removed, but marked it "hidden")

Go look in the "Freda" thread and see if you can actually find the post from rstidman. It doesn't exist anymore.

Why this became an issue today I have no idea. Probably because Don was reading the site a couple days ago (and apparently read some responses on the air) and wanted to stir some shit up.

I guess it is another possibility that he wasn't talking about this site... anyone anywhere could have posted it, not like it's hard to find.

Cary, why cave to it? It's public domain information and I'd totally join Rob in a vandalism fight against throngs of idiot radio listeners. We'd win too.

They talk about it a few times.
The first is rather inocuous which is the one pgens is describing.

The second time is where he is raging about rstidman. Don basically reads all his posts on the air.
He mentions fairfaxunderground several times and asks all the listeners to help track him down.

Even later someone finally sends him rstidman's name and address.

LOL I love you too, Don.

well I have to admit I didn't listen, kinda hard to bring myself to tune into that god-awful show they've been doing lately...it's like they have the sports junkies writing for them or something...








Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/15/2005 11:38PM by rstidman.

When are the pricks going to show up?

ben Wrote:
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> Cary, why cave to it? It's public domain
> information and I'd totally join Rob in a
> vandalism fight against throngs of idiot radio
> listeners. We'd win too

Thought long and hard about it. Decided to take it down because a personality from the show found it and emailed me personally. Took it down out of respect of don with every intention of restoring it after the "rush" had passed. Guess it'll have to wait a little bit longer.

Don is a greasy pig. Do you know how many times he told people that he literally hopes they get in a car accident and dies while they are listening to his show, just because they disagree with him on something. He gets what he deserves.

LMAO. For one you S--t Hole, if you look @ my profile i'm from Virginia (do your homework) the baltimore sn refers to the Ravens. Don does get what he deserves, he is as low as his callers. R.I.P Freda

"For one", you're profile doesn't interest me in the least, but thanks for the correction. Secondly, did Bart deserve it? How about Freda's mother, did she deserve it? Nobody deserves that kind of shit. The fact that you take Don and what he says on the air so seriously shows you're the one who needs to do a little homework you pathetic man-whore! (Now you're going to tell me you're not a man - well, I knew that already!) Oh, by the way, THE RAVENS SUCK!!

Now to Ben, who posted this little chunk of verbal vomit:

"It's public domain information and I'd totally join Rob in a vandalism fight against throngs of idiot radio listeners"

Well, let's say we post what we can dig up regarding your pathetic personal life on this or any other board. Wonder how you'd like that Bengie, you f---ing hypocrite! Regarding potential vandalism of Rob and Genevieve's crib (which none of Don and Mike's fans are STUPID enough or malicious enough to do), it only cost them $113,000 (public info again!), so no big deal!

Look douchebag. First of all, there's a reason why it's called the Don and Mike Show. It's a fu.cking show. Secondly, telling a man his wife deserved to die is wrong on too many levels. Go back into the hole you crawled out of.

LMAO , I knew you would say the Ravens suck, soooo predictable and childish, thats exacally why I typed it was for the Ravens. I'm actually an Eagles fan. What part don't you understand about Don deserves it, Don, can you comprehend that?? Lmao where does it say anyone else deserves it. You aren't the sharpest pencil in the box are you? Anyone else doesn't deserve that crap, but thats life. One more time so maybe you can remeber that DON DESERVES IT. lmao No wonder your sn is A.Fan, I wonder if you even know a fanactic isn't a good thing, but then again someone of your brain capacity doesn't care. I'm done with you, now go to bed.

You're "done with me" are you? I don't think so, you egotistical fuckstick! Do you honestly think I or anyone else here gives a flying fuck about you and your favorite team? It's crystal clear from your thankfully few and far between posts that you are a fucking idiot with the intellectual capacity of a dried cum bubble!! (Laugh your reamed out ass off at that one Gomer!)

Don might be, no scratch that, he is, an asshole, but he has never done ANYTHING to deserve losing his wife so tragicallly - think about it MORON. Speaking of predictable, you're single, aren't you. Lonely too, I bet. Gee, how in the hell did I figure that one out?

P.S. The Ravens DO suck - Of course I'd say that! Didn't take a genius to predict that one Kreskin!

Its not hard to figure out who rstidman is - he is 26, lives in Clifton, plays paintball, is a computer geek who turns Ikea crap into computer cases, email address rstidman@cox.net, blah blah blah.

The point is when someone loses a spouse no matter who it is, you don't make the situation worse by posting messages about her - have some god damn respect. The guy lost his wife asshole. What is your purpose for posting? Doesn't matter if you like the guy or the show - give it a rest.

And furthermore, why would people assist in making his address public. Sure you can find it if you tried, but what is the purpose. Most people do want and try to keep their lives private - what is so wrong with that. I am a very private person myself and cannot stand being around idiots.

Many of you are probably not married or even happily married and because of that you wouldn't even understand. If I lost my wife of 20 years I would be completely devestated. Put yourself in Don's shoes. I know I have.

Blah, anonymous coward. So old and still saying words like asshole and god damn. If I were married for 20 years I'm not sure why I would be completely devastated (it is spelled that way, go check) if you lost your wife. That would suck and all, but I'm not going to slit my wrists because some stranger lost his wife.

If you put yourself in Don's shoes you would be at the beach with a lot of money. As soon as you give a couple hundred grand to charity with all the money your have in Don's shoes and post a link to a scan of the cancelled checks here you should shut up.

As soon as you give a couple hundred grand to charity with all the money your have in Don's shoes and post a link to a scan of the cancelled checks here you should shut up.


Ummm... English, please?

Anon said
"The point is when someone loses a spouse no matter who it is, you don't make the situation worse by posting messages about her - have some god damn respect. The guy lost his wife asshole. What is your purpose for posting? Doesn't matter if you like the guy or the show - give it a rest. "

Maybe you should call up the show next time they do an Elvis Death day show, or an episode of Low Budget Jeopardy where a recently dead celebrity comes back from the grave to be ridiculed and host the show and let Don know that this too may be hurtful to the relatives of the recently deceased. Or perhaps next time he raves about how much he would love to give out someone's home phone number if only the FCC would let him, you should call and tell him how that would be more of an invasion of someone's privacy as posting his already publicly available address on a usually low traffic Internet forum.

Not saying I agree with posting negative message right after Freda's death, and I definetly would not have personally posted her address, but Don needs to open his eyes and see that he is as guilty of being an asshole as anyone who may have posted in the forum, and that he is being a hypocrite to make such a big deal our of it.

Today is "Elvis Death Day". (8-16-77) I'm sure that it will come up, if they don't do the whole Elvis Death Day show as they have in the past.

Randy Wrote:
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> but Don
> needs to open his eyes and see that he is as
> guilty of being an asshole as anyone who may have
> posted in the forum, and that he is being a
> hypocrite to make such a big deal out of it.

His argument is that he's a public figure doing a show, so his comments are "comedy" and aren't meant to be taken personally. The public figure status also entitles him to an extra level of privacy.

donfan Wrote:
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> As soon as you give a couple hundred grand to
> charity with all the money your have in Don's
> shoes and post a link to a scan of the cancelled
> checks here you should shut up.
>
>
> Ummm... English, please?

Sorry, that is in English. I'll reword and add a comma and maybe you'll understand it a little better...

"As soon as you donate two hundred thousand dollars to charity with all the money gained whilst figuratively placed in Don's shoes, and subsequently post a link to a scan of the cancelled checks here, you should shut up."

By law, being a public figure entitles you to less privacy and less protection under certain laws, not more. As first decided in New York Times Co. v. Sullivan (1964).

http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/faclibrary/case.aspx?case=New_York_Times_Co_v_Sullivan

I was really surprised that within a week of being back from his mourning, that he made fun of a celebrity death.

I thought it was in pretty poor taste.

Rstidman did not use his head.
Maybe not against the law..but still bad judgement!

what tims is the radio show on today

3pm-7pm EDT

Amen, Amen....couldnt have said it better myself.

Hey, guys, I HAVE to be honest for a sec...

I came here as a Don & Mike fan ready to rip rstidman a new asshole.

However, unlike the other clueless fans, I actually read this entire "Freda" post and the rest of the site (Cary deserves his props for coming up with something original...Cheers, mate!)before I started posting mindless drivel about his wife or offering my condolences. I get the site and see what it is all about.

Don Geronimo is just an uptight asshole who, granted, lost the best thing in his life, his wife, but that does not give him carte blanche to mindlessly lash out with this misdirected anger toward a bunch of 20 somethings who set up a simple web server blog to rant and bitch about Fairfax and search for public domain arrest/ticket info. Him giving out the web address online was VERY uncool.

As was the subsequent crash!

Cary, I would sue WJFK and Infinity for this. You will definitely win on nuisance and negligence on Don's part. He knew it would crash this server. It would be different if Rob Stidman ran the server, but he doesn't; you do. You will definitely get a couple of $ Thou out of it (Slushfund for these kind of suits).

Don just needed something to fill the dead air of his radio show. If his wife was not dead, he never would have found this site. If Freda was still alive and Don did find it, he would probably give you all the props for the Sean Taylor pix.

Fuck him, his show, his crew, the station, his listeners, and all the "asshats" posting on here for not "getting it." "We get jokes!" Yeah, right! Fuckers!

Cary, sorry they crashed your server, dude! Keep up the good work. You have a good site here.

L8r!
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A. Fan and Anon (props for originality on those two monikers btw!) and any other mindless D&M asshats,

If Don's wife was not dead, he (or you or me for that matter) never would have found this site. If Freda was still alive and Don did find it, he would probably give you all the props for the Sean Taylor pix.

We should treat Don differently because he lost his wife. Niggah, please! Don busts on anyone and everyone. If this was Howard Stern who lost his wife, you know they would be leading the pack being assholes about it. It is their show; their schtick!

Fuck Don Geronimo, his show, his crew, the station, his listeners, and all the "asshats" posting on here for not "getting it" and crashing an innocent kid's server.

"We get jokes!" Yeah, right! Fuck off!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/16/2005 12:02PM by GrafixChimpBoy.

Listen, Monkey Boy, first thing is my "moniker" was not chosen to impress anybody - especially a self-righteous, sanctimonius, ASSHOLE (I've never liked the term "asshat"!) like you. "GrafixChimpBoy"?? Fuck you, you little 14 year old puke!! I'm on here to make a point, not impress an underpants-around-the-ankles, socially retarded computer geek wannabe - got it?

Funny thing is, I agree with quite a bit of what you said in your first post except the "I would sue WJFK and Infinity for this" bit. Fuck me? No. Fuck you! No wonder you haven't advanced beyond the science building's basement with your "I'm going to sue the first fucker that looks at me sideways and make some serious bank" attitude! Well, when you're old enough to get a real job and earn some cash the old-fashioned way, you'll see it's not all that easy - and besides, Cary wouldn't stand a chance in a suit against the mighty WJFK - at least on the asinine grounds you're suggesting. "Oh my server crashed 'cause this mean radio personality gave out my web address on the air" give me a fucking break Chimpy! Cary's not that fucking stupid, nor are we! He'd come off looking like a total MORON - just like YOU! Best to leave the legal advice to the lawyers. Now if I want advice on how to come across like a total loser on a chat board - I'm comin' to you! Yeah, I would definitely say YOU had YOUR "bowl of stupid" this morning - how totally appropriate!

Bottom line regarding Stidman & "G" (I don't like to leave Genevieve out when I mention the ol' Stidmeister!), Don should have never brought it up on the air like he did. If he had just let it go, the whole thing would have faded into total obscurity - which it still will - it's just going to take a little longer now. And hey, I appreciate the opportunity to fuck with these little insignificant pukes like ChimpyBoy here (speaking of total obscurity)!

Talk about "not getting it"!

The Don and Mike show gained a lot of popularity because they followed the Howard Stern format of saying the unthinkable to get a rise out of listeners. This is no different. Don is playing the poor me thing to the hilt, not because he loves his wife but because he is an egotistical ratings gatherer. For sure he's laughing all the way to the bank because of the new-found listenership that has arisin due to the death of Freda.

Entertainment is all that it is. If any of you fans of the show would get your pitiful heads out of your asses, you'd see that Don is shamelessly exploiting her death for his own selfish reasons.

This site is not a Don and Mike site. It is a Fairfax County Virginia site primarily - hence the name. Once all the publicity has died, rstidman, Gravis, PaperPusher, Tina et. al. will continue to exchange insults in the privacy of our own domain. Do my little family here a favor and go the hell away!

Don made a conscious choice to blow this asshole out of the water and you can't blame him for trying fight a fucked up system. Props.. Don 4 King 2006.

WAVA, lay off the booze and repost in some similance of english

I think it's "semblance" there, PP.

PaperPusher, you advocating the idiot listeners bring down rstidman's house?

I'm advocating that you get the right person and if you have balls you'll get a fucking job and get a life of your own instead of listening to a couple of screaming idiots on the radio. I listened to D&M before I got a life too.

A. Fan, thanks for the grammar check. I'll call you next time I care.

You people have no fucking clue.

And, before you go on about me having people close to me dying, you're too late. I've lost a mother, father, sister, sister, and wife and not one of my idiot fans shouted insults because of it.

hey chimp....here's a banana......guess what ya can do with it.............

The right person?? WTF! They should create a prison for people like you so you'll get assraped and mindfucked in peace.

yeah, it already exists. it's the don and mike fan club - a group of assraping mindfuckers

I repeat, get a fucking life of your own. Idiot.

You seemed to care when you posted your little "repost in some similance of english" judgement call on ol' WAVA. Do you honestly think WAVA cared? WAVA's post made sense to me.

You sure can dish it out, but...

P.S. I'm sorry for your loss - that helps me understand why you're so bitter.

lol WAVA.......Paperpusher is starving for attention.....b/c if he didn't care of listen, why the f** would he be here replying to all the messages about D&M?
Pagerpusher....oh boy....*snaps fingers*....the head needs cleaning...chop chop..

Oh yeah you people have me pegged. I'm bitter, that's why I'm making idle threats towards people I don't even know. Its helpful that you remain anonymous. That way you can scream and hide all at the same time

Who's making threats?

A. Fan (someone watch or read "disclosure" one too many times with the nod to A. Friend? It should be A. Dick, jackass!),

Self-righteous, sanctimonious (you spelled it wrong too, jackass) ASSHOLE is truly how you portray yourself with these juvenile rants of your own. I would say you are doing a fine job of coming across as a loser on your own. You do not need any help from me.

You are on here to be the same annoying asshole you are in life. On here you can just spread it a little further then your dead end cubicle job where you sit miserably everyday . I do have a real job in the real world. I am sure I make a helluva lot more than you do, wanker!

The only insignificant thing is that pathetic piece of flesh hanging between your legs you call a cock and balls, Tinkerbell! From your graphic description of pants around ankles, it sounds like you have a chronic issue there, pal. You keep that up you will go blind.

I would go see a doctor for some salve and a shrink for the menagerie of issues you have with the world. I would start with anger management. That might help.

Oh, yeah, AND SHUT THE FUCK UP!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/16/2005 03:02PM by GrafixChimpBoy.

See below losers.

Attachments:

Xenon, you just made my day! Have a good one!

Shut it

You know what ass face that runs this site, I hope you get whatever pleasure or satisfaction you were trying to get. I hope you very much enjoy the look on your face when you awake in the middle of the nite to find an obsessed don n mike fan staring down at you with a screwdriver to fuck you up the ass with, you piece of shit faggot. You should die and you loser regulars that visit this site, die you faggots die...

FWIW, Don & Mike are celebrating Elvis Presley's death today. I am sure his loved ones and relatives feel about this the same way Don feels about comments on this site.

i kinda feel like singing "kumbaya" all of a sudden.

Not right

Randy Wrote:
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> FWIW, Don & Mike are celebrating Elvis Presley's
> death today. I am sure his loved ones and
> relatives feel about this the same way Don feels
> about comments on this site.


Yes, but he didn't give out Priscilla & Lisa Marie's home addresses.

Get some class.

Do all these idiots think that rstidman runs this site?

Yep, these idiots thing rstidman runs the site - stupid jerks. We all know it is:

Cary Wiedemann
4031 University Drive #419
Fairfax, Virginia 22030
571 278 2896

Who runs the site.

Wow. Whoopdie fucking do.
You know how to run a WHOIS search on the registered domain.

Badges? We ain't got no badges. We don't need no badges. I don't have to show you any stinking badges.

"SanctimoniOus" an obvious typo, MonkeyBlowBoy. How fucking uptight are you, or Is it some kind of obsessive-compulsive thing? You say "I am sure I make a helluva lot more than you do" I KNOW that's not true, however, deriving ones income from lawsuits can, I'm sure, be VERY lucrative.

Please note that Xenon's little graphic is adressed to "losers" in general - that includes you too, BlowBoy! You like to think you're above it all, but a quick review of your posts betray their argumentative tone and intent. You seem to exist by attempting to intellectually elevate yourself above everyone else. Talk about an ASSHOLE!

If you had your shit as together as you desperately want people to think you do, you wouldn't even be wasting your precious time on this fucking board!

Oh, and as you put it, my "dead end cubicle job where sit miserably everyday". I actually laughed out loud at that one - we have a ranch!!

P.S. No wonder your spelling is so great, I notice you edit your posts - I obviously don't need to - I always get it right the first time, BlowMonkey!

Only Jesus can save you!

WAVA Wrote:
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> Only Jesus can save you!

You're an idiot.

A. Fan,

Does the A. stand for asshole? Because, sweet Jesus, you sure are one.

Oooh, someone owns a ranch. Hey, wait!!! Is this Don Imus to Don & Mike's rescue?

Elvis has left the building

I never thought owning a ranch was THAT impressive, Ms. Leech - sorry, I meant Leet.

Regarding the "Asshole" comment - THANK YOU - and VERY proud of it!

typical D&M fan. nothing better to do but lurk around waiting for someone to make a comment then attempt to exploit it. As someone else commented, they had dead air until freda's death. Yes, I have a dead end cubicle job and am not proud of it - but it pays my bills.

pgens Wrote:
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> Okay, here's a basic rundown:
>
> - He "has people who know some things about the
> Internet" and he would find info on the person
> - Said he would post that person's info on their
> web site
>
> He's basically pissed that his address was online
> and said if anything happens to his house he's
> going after these people. Said he'd smack the
> poster's face, offered to do it at the station and
> then the person could sue Don and he wouldn't
> care.

A. Fan Wrote:
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> Well, let's say we post what we can dig up
> regarding your pathetic personal life on this or
> any other board. Wonder how you'd like that
> Bengie, you f---ing hypocrite! Regarding potential
> vandalism of Rob and Genevieve's crib (which none
> of Don and Mike's fans are STUPID enough or
> malicious enough to do), it only cost them
> $113,000 (public info again!), so no big deal!


anon Wrote:
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> Its not hard to figure out who rstidman is - he is
> 26, lives in Clifton, plays paintball, is a
> computer geek who turns Ikea crap into computer
> cases, email address
> rstidman@cox.net, blah
> blah blah.

A. Fan,

Public Information available on

Robert E. Stidman, Age 26

Last 3 Residences:

6237 Summer Pond Dr.
CENTREVILLE VA 20121

6407 Columbia Pike
ANNANDALE VA 22003

2790 Prince Harold Ct.
HERNDON VA 20171

Works as a Bench Technician:
Rob Stidman
Bench Technician
Intrepid Technical Services
6621-A Electronic Drive
Springfield, VA 22151



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/16/2005 05:51PM by E. Leet.

so ... are there any funny people on this board?

doug wright Wrote:
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> You know what ass face that runs this site, I hope
> you get whatever pleasure or satisfaction you were
> trying to get. I hope you very much enjoy the
> look on your face when you awake in the middle of
> the nite to find an obsessed don n mike fan
> staring down at you with a screwdriver to fuck you
> up the ass with, you piece of shit faggot. You
> should die and you loser regulars that visit this
> site, die you faggots die...

What kind of chicken-shit bullshit is that Douglas? The guy that runs this site has NOTHING to do with the shit fucksticks like you post here and you KNOW it. I'm sure he's just as disgusted with the hardcore Don and Mike / Freda bashers as anyone else. You're just a miserable douchebag looking for an excuse to spew your verbal jizz (although I did chuckle at the "screwdriver to fuck you up the ass" line)!

knock knock

who's there?

Not on this post, just a couple of (using a term popular in 1992) "asshats" defending the Don and Monkey show

andwar

andwar who?

andwar are all the milkduds

ok, not funny but at least I attempted ... NEXT

PaperPusher Wrote:
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> ok, not funny but at least I attempted ... NEXT


omfg you suck at humor. but true, you tried.


here's something funny:

fucking a clown in the ass.


learn from the pros.

But it is so hard to clean up that white clown makeup afterwards...

E. Leet Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> Public Information available on
>
> Robert E. Stidman, Age 26
>
> Last 3 Residences:
>
> 6237 Summer Pond Dr.
> CENTREVILLE VA 20121
>
> 6407 Columbia Pike
> ANNANDALE VA 22003
>
> 2790 Prince Harold Ct.
> HERNDON VA 20171
>
> Works as a Bench Technician:
> Rob Stidman
> Bench Technician
> Intrepid Technical Services
> 6621-A Electronic Drive
> Springfield, VA 22151
> 800-642-6015


That is VERY cool - I am impressed!

What do you have on Genevieve?

Randy Wrote:
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> But it is so hard to clean up that white clown
> makeup afterwards...


that is one dedicated fookin' clown if s/he has white make-up on his/her ass. i mean, that's clown hall-of-fame type shit.

A. Fan Wrote:
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> What do you have on Genevieve?


Do you really think that is necessary? Attack Rob all you want, but leave somebody who may or may not be his housemate alone.

Of course, you will just come back and say that he attacked Don's family, so all is fair game. Not quite. Don is an entertainer, and his whole family led a degree of publicity. While tragic, Freda's death was public as well. It was very clear who Don, Freda and Bart were. Rob has made no mention of a housemate, nor a "Genevieve" on this forum as far as I know, so how do you know you are right?

The real Rob Stidman, who posts to this forum, may not be the same Rob Stidman that lives at that address. Are you really that much of an ass to publish information about a person ("Genevieve") who may not even know the Rob Stidman who posts to this forum, simply because you feel self-righteous?

This is not a private site. Actually, it's available to more people than the Don & Mike Show. He's only getting what he asked for.

DNM midwest fan Wrote:
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> This is not a private site. Actually, it's
> available to more people than the Don & Mike Show.
> He's only getting what he asked for.

It is a privately owned & operated site, idiot. Turn off the computer and stick to something more simple like your radio.


A. Fan Wrote:
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> That is VERY cool - I am impressed!

Wow! Does not take much to impress you. It is called a Google search. If you know more information about Genevieve, you can try one yourself.

My search did bring up Rob's roommate/girlfriend's name and home telephone number which I did not include for the same reasons Cm gives above... There was no information about a Genevieve. Who is she and by the way something... whaddyacare?

All Don said on the air was he wanted the responsible person's address. I have given you three. His work was a bonus find through Google which makes the count four. Now take the information, forward it to Don and fuck yourself with it while you try to figure out how to Google.

first time listening to the show, and it fucking sucks i dont get it? why are they playing old elvis reruns

edit: is Don the one that has a scratchy voice?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/16/2005 05:43PM by MrDoctor.

Apparently, it's the anniversary of Elvis's death.

okay don is the one that tries to be fnny and mike is the one that laughs at his jokes.

yeah, you pretty much summed up the show.

E. Leet Wrote:
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> It is a privately owned & operated site, idiot.
> Turn off the computer and stick to something more
> simple like your radio.
>


And he works for a privately owned radio station, idiot.

My point is that ANYONE can access this site. It is no less public than his show.

DNM Midwest Fan Wrote:
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> And he works for a privately owned radio station,
> idiot.
>
> My point is that ANYONE can access this site. It
> is no less public than his show.

Cary Wiedemann does not work for a privately owned radio station, Private Pyle! Don does.

Yes, everyone can access this site, Gomer. It is on the internet! Woo hoo! Any one else feel like we are making progress?

Also when talking about two separate people in a conversation it would be good to use their given names, Don or Cary, instead of the immensely vague "he!"

Cary, when are you going to start blocking some IP addresses here?

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WHERE'S THE BEEF

I have to agree with Don, just leave the guy alone, and let him get on with his life after this family tragedy. Posting his home address does invite people to harrass the guy. I am very happy that Don is in Fairfax. Co. however everyone should be ashamd of themselves because of the underhand "cheap shots" on Don.

Just leave hime alone, and allowe him to continue with his life...,

Dave Wrote:
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> I have to agree with Don, just leave the guy
> alone, and let him get on with his life after this
> family tragedy. Posting his home address does
> invite people to harrass the guy. I am very happy
> that Don is in Fairfax. Co. however everyone
> should be ashamd of themselves because of the
> underhand "cheap shots" on Don.
>
> Just leave hime alone, and allowe him to continue
> with his life...,


Actually, Dave, there is a phone book and the internet if you really want to find information about someone. How does simply posting an address invite anyone to harass Don? How is it better to demand retribution over the air to legions of rabid fans for some imagined sleight? Do any of these people have real lives with their own problems?

If they did, they wouldn't be frothing at the mouth about what their idol said over the air.

This whole situation makes me weep for my country.

The "Registered Sex Offenders" are loose!

anyone wanna take bets on how long this nonsense will go on. and another question?????? i haven't seen stidman leave a post in a long while. are you hiding stiddy?

he's probably washing the egg of his house. thats just b.s. poor guys gonna catch hell because don cant take his own medicine

You people are fucked in the brain to vent your stupid frustrations out on someone simply performing one of his constitutional rights. (freedom of speech for you dense headed people who can't figure things out on your onw)

Though I completely agree with what rstidman did, its not a constitutional issue. That is reserved for freedom from censorship from the government, not some asshole DJ.

I agree with, like, paperpusher. Constitutional Rights, man. That's where I get to say what I want, how I want, when I want to and bone the rest of you losers if you don't agree.

I just rolled off your mom, by the way, and she said that I am way better in the rack than you are.

dude, my mom's dead. Did she stink? Yo.

whats it called when you fuck corpses?

disgusting and sick?

necrophiliac therewe go

You said, and I quote blah, blah, blah, wait, wait a minute, blah, blah, blah, ok, thanks for the probs.


But like I said I hope to snap a pic of the look on his face when that happens...

We already know all we need to about Rstidman

Robert Stidman Age 26
rstidman@cox.net

6407 Columbia Pike
Annandale VA 22003
__________________
6237 Summerpond Dr
Centreville VA 20121
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2790 Prince Harold Ct
Herndon VA 20171

Please stop all this fuss over me.

Im on the wrong side of the dirt now and im much happier. Hell if you were married to the ASSHAT Mike Source you would be happy your dead too. He is an arrogant self centered pig who thinks he is so much better than everyone. He couldnt even get an erection, but he would go on the air and talk about our so called love making. I wanted to cry everytime I heard him, oh how I longed for a real man to satisfy me. Thats over now thank god. I really wanted to die and that should have been obvious by my driving that day. I was coming up on this pileup, I think it was a 10 car pileup to be exact, but instead of slowing down to a crawl I just kept trucking along at over 50 mph. I was on the phone, eating and putting on makeup and also had my eyes shut just hoping that someone trying to avoid the major accident would plow me down and put me out of my misery. Now Im gone and I dont have to see that asshats face anymore and plus now all the people hes wronged can have their revenge by torturing his poor soul. Send your post cards and letters and have at him. He deserves it. Maybe if you guys keep it up long enough he will be forced to end that god auful show they do every day.

Something even more amusing is when they were scooping up my internal organs they found my colon to weigh 50 lbs just like Elvis. I hope my asshat husband will speak of this on the radio or maybe honor my death by having Mike immitate me on low budget jeopardy, that would be a gas.

To all so called D&M fans that come here to defend those losers all I have to say is this. Get a friggin life you dont know us. Your stuck in some false reality that you have to defend us and the fact is we dont give 2 shits about you. The only people that will see your rants are other obsessed losers, but at least by looking at this board that theres only a small number of you obsessed no life having ignorant fools.

Buh Buy Sugar Bear
DeadFreda

I know our website is down but heres a backdoor in to see all my Freda Files and stuff. How sad some of them are.

But OH POOR YOU.

Buh Bye Sugar Bear Boo Boo

http://www.donandmikewebsite.com/department/photos.html

Wow. You're a piece of crap.

Too funny!!!

To all of the D&M sychphants...it is SARCASM and just part of the show. After all, that's what Don calls it, right?

Thanks Freda!

Wow. You're a piece of crap.

has anyone ever considered that maybe don himself is posting some of this stuff? He, after all, is a shameless ratings whore.

my brother was an intern at WAVA back in the day

they called him Psychoboy or something because he was so eager to learn

hahahaha

You prove that Don is posting this himself and I'll be happy to apologize.

i have to say this is a fucking hilarious. i stop checking the site for a couple weeks and something like this happens, damn. i never heard what was acutally said on the air, a shame but then again, i never listen to that show. if i had only known.

i didnt at the time of the whole freda's dead thread, i didnt have a clue about who she was. one thing i keep thinking is, why was don searching the net for stuff about his dead wife? was he looking for trouble? methinks it's possible. i think it's all hilarious. too bad everyone started loosing it and threatening rstidman.

rstidman,
just wondering, has anyone done something stupid like bitch at you or fucked up your place. while your humor is curt and offensive when against the likes of me, i can still find humor in it. i love it.

Xenon,
that picture made me laugh a solid two minutes. so funny.

to all of those who are deeply wounded by rstidman's comments, get over yourselves you hatemongers. you gotta love free speach... that's how idiots like don get on the air in the first place.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

Gravis, you summed it up nicely.

the bottom line to this whole stupid thread is there is a few insensitive assholes out there. no matter what, its not right to kick a man in the face after he lost his wife, doesn't matter how big an asshole or how deserving he is. nobody posing on this thread would want that for themselves. give a rest and grow up.

upstatenyers Wrote:
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> the bottom line to this whole stupid thread is
> there is a few insensitive assholes out there. no
> matter what, its not right to kick a man in the
> face after he lost his wife, doesn't matter how
> big an asshole or how deserving he is. nobody
> posing on this thread would want that for
> themselves. give a rest and grow up.


sounded like one of those last 3 minutes on the jerry springer show where he sits down and gives a good word of advice.. thanks!

Is Jerry on here scoping us out for an upcoming show?

Anyone know where Freda is buried

Uhhhmmm ... in the ground??

Wow! IM a piece of crap. Sorry for all my previous posts.

End of thread. Further attempts to continue this post will result in ass beatdown.

Cary, MAKE IT STOP!

Only sick fucks talk about dead people like its so frigging funny. Sick fucks like BTK. Unbeleiveable.

To you asswipes who posted the Freda stuff, I hope you rot in hell.

Hey isn't this the forum where sick fucks talk about dead people and wack off?

Sickos...

to "dfrc"

You a are hideous, lowlife bottom feeding fuck. You make me sick, and I hope that you never lose anyone close to you and the general public finds out. This is bad forum management and the disgusting things that have been written here are disconcerting. I hope you rot in HELL.

I bet my messages will get removed from this lame phorum.

What a moron to subject himself to haveing to pay for a new server because he so sick he wacks off to dead people! S I C K O!!!

You heartless bastards are worse than vampires. How can you suck your giggles off of his tragedy? Suppose someone you loved was killed in this way, would you want some loser asshole to do this to you? If you are representative of the people who live on the East Coast, then you all are even sicker than we thought.

Posting insulting remarks as "Frida's Rotting Corpse" is as bad as what BTK was doing. You might not be a serial killer, but your head is in the same place as his is. Take it from me, that is not a happy place to be. Why don't you all just suck on a tailpipe and die, if you cannot do anything better than this.

Hey Moron-who-talks-about-dead-people-and-wacks-off.


Ban my IP from your server.


Go ahead.


There are only 80,000 plus of me HA HA!

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To DFRC:
You'll get what you have coming. I hope Don finds you and puts you out of your misery...slowly and painfully. You deserve it. The world would be a better place without people like you.

I will admit Don & Mike can be a bit rude to callers, but making fun of the poor guys wife's death is rude and uncalled for. You guys should join our criminal president in the unconcess dept.

Cary please take the thread down!

I will admit Don & Mike can be a bit rude to callers, but making fun of the poor guys wife's death is rude and uncalled for. You guys should join our criminal president in the unconcess dept.

you guys are sick. there is something wrong when u make fun of someone who just lost a loved one. who does that? no matter how much u say u hate him. at least u can have respect for the man. i have an idea...why don't u all get over yourselves...

First let me say I feel bad for anyone who loses a loved one.
As for the radio show...it's got to be the worst radio program on the radio today unless it's intentions are not to make people laugh. All the laughing comes from their side of the radio. I remember when I first heard the show when it aired in NY (what a mistake that was). I listened day after day and didn't even giggle. Finally they were cancelled due to low ratings. I was surfing the web last week and decided to see if there were any sick looking babes on their website and discovered I could listen to the show on the internet. I've been listening all week and still haven't giggled or even crack a smile...UNTIL the man from Alaska called. He got Don to go whacko. Though the next half hour still sucked, it was the best half hour I've heard.

I am a strong advocate of the 1st amedment, but just because you can write something doesn't mean you should. I mean where is the f_cking humanity ?? Just because Mike Source is a personality you feel that all constraints of being a human being are off ????? Are you this cruel to everybody that you don't like, or just people in the public arena. If you honestly feel that Mr. Source deserves this treatment because of the way he portrays himself on his radio show then you must seriously consider whether you have lost touch with reality and with being a human being. Are you really proud of yourself, that you could actually wound a real live radio personality and get yourself mentioned on the radio. You are the lowest form of subhuman slime! and I am sure you will get what you deserve in the long run. I hope you remember what you have written when you lose a loved one and imagine recieving the kind of mail that Mike has due to this forum !!

I’ve never had much faith in the human species, and you bottom feeders have just proven me wrong. Creatures like you cannot be human.

FDRC- If I thought it would be possible for someone like you to have a loved one I would wish a slow and painful death on them, as anyone who can love you deserves to die. I doubt even your mother was ever able to stomach looking at you, which is, perhaps, where your problems stem from. I want you to one day feel the pain of someone being taken away from you, and when that happen you better put it out there for us to find. I hope I’m the first to find it, and I will rip your balls out of you (I’m sure they’ve yet to drop, if you have them at all).

Just remember… It’s all about the Karma, and you have put out the most negative energy possible. The universe will have it’s revenge.

You are one sick s.o.b. If you really think you are funny, you have more than a few screws loose. Maybe your life is so miserable because you have nothing but hatred in your heart, but don't take it out on others. If you don't like Don, then stop listening, stupid! If you think him poking fun at others is the same as your inappropriate nonsense, or people sending him and his son disgusting death threats, thanks to this site publishing his address, you are one sick, twisted fool. I cannot imagine being so full of hatred to even attempt to write the crap you do. You obviosuly are not capable of love or you would have an inkling as to what it may be like to lose someone like that. There is a line and you've gone over it and you suck. Aren't there enough problems in this world without adding to them??

Barb,

You have Rick James' agreement!

Heydeadfredasrottingcorpse,I DO have a life & I enjoy The Don & Mike Show but I DO have a problem with little dickheads like you who post silly things about a friend of mine who is going thru a tough time.I don't understand why people like you or your friends do stuff like this maybe because you have small penises,can't get any girls or you are jealous of Don.I know you are protected by the First Amendment by saying anything about anyone on the internet...so I can say things about YOU!!! Why don't you tell a little about yourself asswipe? Did you finish choking your chicken today? I guess you can't get any women this is why you spend your time behind your computer downloading porn sites or wishing you were Howard Stern so you can look at naked women because this is the only chance you can see women in the nude or when your mom of sister comes out of the shower you can spank the monkey quickly.DFRC,maybe you are an Opie & Anthony fan who trying to get on their show...or Elliott Seagal fan.I hope bad things happen to you so you can see how it feels when you lose a loved one.One last thing DFRC,go ask your mom if she likes black meat over white meat!

the guy who posted the Freda thing is an employee of "Corporate Express"

I Loved the Don and Mike show today it was great. what is so bad about the show they are funny. All of you who don't get that are so lame. And show the man some respect you ASSHATS

I love don and mike u losers u just mad u don't have your own show.

Big Black 6'8" Man,

Rick James concurs with what you rap, ma brotha!

Don't you guys realize (Cary, et al) that the guy has no one to really grab onto and vent his anger at the loss of his wife and that this is what you represent for him?

Give the guy (a fellow human guy) a break. You'd scratched a very raw wound when it was fresh. Admit it, say you're sorry and stop antagonizing him.

If you say, "Well, I deleted the address promptly. I cannot help it if others post outrageous stuff! I will not censor!" To which I reply, "Then this is the same as if you'd posted it yourself. You are the proprietor of this establishment. You control the the setting, tone and theme here. Someone decides to deal drugs under your open eyes, then you are guilty, too."

Not saying anything here is illegal. But the idea is moral. Ethical. Merciful. You can control that. You do realize that you would not infringe upon another's civil rights at your personal place, right? Unless you're gov't. Are you gov't? Then no one's civil liberties will be affected.

On the one side: Mercy.
On the other: Some horrendeous need to say vile things.

And you opt to protect the latter?

Let him grieve with his dignity.

you are the lowest form of scum on the planet. when i see you on the bottom of my shoe i don't even use a stick to scrape you off...i buy a new pair of shoes. you are probably some pathetic little fuck living in mommy and daddy's basement making your keyboard all sticky while reading your ignorant messages over and over again. if i saw you walking down the side of the road i would pull over and kick your ass for drill. i hope the good lord sees fit to make your bung hole never open more than 1/4" so every time you take a shit you are reminded of the pain your mere presence causes others. burn in hell, and quickly please.

dfrc_is_an_asshat aka "sd"

You will soon feel the love of my Springfeild XD-9

now i overherd parts of the todays don and mike show. It seems that a caller called up and asked about don's recently decesed wife.Now for any one that might have a brain or compassion, I really find it hard to belive that your spouses death is something that should be asked by callers on a radio show, and should be left out of a radio show. Don got upset and started to fly off the handle. This is truley understandable because if my girlfriend died in the same way I really would not know how to handle it.But anyway don read some of the post on this site. As i started to hear some of these post i found that people are truley desturbing and it sickins me that people would take cheap shots at a man they never met in real life. A man that never did and thing wrong to them personally. And they will truly never know if don is acually like that out of the show. How dare you make asumptions that this man is a dirtbag. And what makes this more apuling is that no one who has put this stuff to hurt a man who has suffered a great loss is appuling. Now the don and mike show is all about riffing on people. And yea its true that they will sometimes go a bit far. But we got to rember that it is a radio show. Nothing more, nothing less. Now i wont try to play the pity card but lets put you into don's shoes. The man has had a travisty that he has said he would not wish on anyone. But it seems that the itlectuals dont think of how big of a loss this is to a human beaing. Think about the one person you love the most. Now for some of you who live in your mother's basement this might not be possible.But back to the topic at hand, Now take that person and take him or her away forever. Yes, time will heal all wounds as they say but to break it down it is still a big wound to heal. So truley you are taking cheap shots at a man who has suffered a great loss and for the ones who are not i applaued you. But for the ones who are im shure satan is wating for you to come down so he can shove hot coles up your ass because that is what you deserve for the rest of eterty you shitballs.

Mr. Wiedemann read your own company's Acceptable Use Policy.
Howzzzz yerrr rezzume?

I do not believe this. I do not fucking believe this.
I just got home a few minutes ago, and while in the car, had to listen to Don read some of that shit that's been posted here. Don, -if you're seeing this, I want you to know that hearing that stuff ripped my heart out. I know that there's nothing I can say to help to heal the wounds I would, however try to provide some emotional orientation and perspective to this nonsense. It's this: there are monsters in the world. There is Evil in the world. It's just that simple.
I'm not a very religious person, but after having had my soul savaged by a true sociopath earlier this year, I can now say without reservation that some people are just plain Evil, -and I do mean the capitol E thing. They're not crass, insensetive, sick or even crazy. These people are simply bad. That's all there is to it. Please stop beating yourself up over trying to figure this sort of thing out, what motivates them, -in short some kind of reason for why they do what they do, because there is none.
I had to accept this, and it makes looking back on what happened easier. In closing, -and I know it's an awful thing to say, but it's this sort of business that makes me hope there is a hell, so that there's a place for these people to go. Take care, Don. Love, -Dianne.

P.S. Cary, I wanted to barf all over your stupid little condescending message on the home page. Bite me.

wow is this bullshit starting all over again?



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Hey, Cary,

I couldn't help but notice that you deleted an entire thread on this board in regards to the backlash generated by the black shit that was said about Don and Freda. As I recall, (and also saved) you claimed to be a first-amendment advocate in your cute little home page text.
ie: "Don: I work in Fairfax City not even a mile away from WJFK. I'd be more than willing to come in and give you a nice lesson on the first amendment."
So, where's your first-amendment passion, now? Huh?
I'd love to hear you come into the WJFK studio and go on air talking about all this. Really.
-Dianne

don and mike fans (which i am):

by coming here and posting you're making the "problem" worse. by giving attention to any of these people you are stroking their epenis (or evagina in the corpses case) and giving them reason to continue posting. they are trying to push the envelope as far as they think it will go (while being predictable, boring, unoriginal, and not funny). the goal is to offend and disgust you and don as much as they possibly can. coming here to complain is exactly what they want.

stop coming to the site, stop posting, and the "problem" solves itself. let don deal with whatever issues he has with this site on his own, he doesn't need your help.

what happened to "the eagle does not hunt the fly"?

Ok, Kirk
So, why did you post?
You know from this afternoon's broadcast that Don (Mike) can't help but come here because this awful stuff that's being said needs closure. I'm just trying to do what I can because I know what it's like to have a huge part of your life torn out of you. It's an indescribable feeling. OK?
-Dianne

i post to try and educate anyone who don't understand the people who create attention grabbing posts. i'm not pointing a finger at anyone, and obviously i'm a bit of a hypocrite since i posted here after stating i think people (well, d&m fans) shouldn't. i do realize that don and mike can't help but come here to read this stuff, and i don't blame them since they're (well, done mainly) in the middle of this.

but as fans, this show of "support" does nothing but strengthen the people who are attempting to hurt "us". i know it feels good to come here and vent, but what you're doing is adding fuel to the flames; your torment is their glee. that is a fact, and that’s why i posted...to make people who may not know aware of that. so, to the orientals...no disrespect.

Dear Kirk,
lol, I get jokes. :)
I know what you're saying that responding to this awful stuff just gives those creeps more gratification, but, on the other hand (she had a wart) I hope that Mike sees some of the support, and that it helps him.
I've never called the show -though I used to produce a couple fringe/black heliocopter programs, and have a lot of tapes I'd like to burn, and believe it or not, tonight is the first time I've ever posted stuff on a forum. I just felt, though, after hearing dear Mike read some of that shit on the air, that I was obligated to do what I can. OK?
-Dianne

I want to offer a reward for information on stidman. where is that little fuck? he ain't so tough now

Are you guys trying to make this guy Don just go crazy and make him leave the show for good. Don might be a rude man but he's only human and there are limits to what a person can take b4 they have a complete break down. Oh well, like anyone will read my post anyway.

This forum powered by Phorum.

So this forum has no rules? This crap is OK with them?

I don't want this forum shut down but I sure like to see that prick and/or pricks brougt to the ground.

The guy who posted the addy and the guy who said he was the corspe (they might be the same peeps)...how you can let them get away with this is unbelievable.

One last thought...Anyone offended by the crap posted and wishing bad things on the posted and/or their families...Don't do that...makes you no better than them.

The best revenge is living well.

If they allow shit like this to happen, why don't you people use a different site? If you ask me the webmasters are just as bad as the idiots that said those things. I hope their dicks shrivelup and fall off from STD's of all types. Just hope they don't pass it to the back-alley hores the pay to sleep with them.

Your Royal Suckiness, when will your mother be getting that post term abortion?

Hey, look at all the Don fans posting in hopes of having their own stuff read on the radio. Lots of threats. Did someone even mention that Don may kill someone? Could that be considered a threat? You people need a life. Part of your first ammendment right is that you don't have to read all that it written or hear all that is said. You can tune it out if you wish. Instead you choose to come to this forum and berate folks. Fuck off.

Mr Sorce,I am terribly sorry you have to put up with such low lifes at this terrible time in your life.I believe it is just jealousy.Jealous of what you have obtained in your life and the fact you were lucky enough to spend half your life with such a lovely lady.The closest these fools could come to that is maybe a dog in heat at the local pound.If this is the best Fairfax has to offer,they should change their slogan to Virginia is for Assholes.Take care.

Paperpusher: Fuck off yourself.

How's that for 1st amendment rights.

suits me.

Great.

ok then

How about that.

cool

I LOVE DON AND MIKE!

The big question is, why does Don keep bringing this shit up on the air. It's like he wants it to continue (think about that one). If he'd just ignore it, it WOULD go away - he knows that, so WHY?

He is certainly not the first media personality to suffer a trgic loss, nor is he the first to endure the hateful, hurtful public comments, but you would think he was by the way he goes on and on about it. A true professional would just ignore it. Hell, I'd ignore it if it happened to me - why continue to subject yourself to the abuse? And don't say that he CAN'T ignore it. Nobody is forcing him to read these posts - he, for some weird reason, chooses to. And calls to the show - until this thing blows over - screen them, so you don't have the nut jobs calling in! REACTING THE WAY HE DOES JUST MAKES IT WORSE AND HE KNOWS IT!

Like I said, think about it. Somehow, it doesnt make sense. Why does Don continue to acknowledge this shit when he KNOWS it just makes it worse? Is it some kind of self-destructive behavior, or what?

I LOVE DON AND MIKE!

Because he hurts and he needs to feel feelings of any sort again. Even the destructive ones feed the pleasure/pain cycle. Ultimately, he will find peace, but it won't be here. It will be at home, where the simplicity of life penetrates his soul and his onness with his wife lives on in her memory. When THAT ceases to be a painful memory and becomes pleasurable, he will smile.

I LOVE DON AND MIKE!

he's a ratings whore and for a lack of anything entertaining to talk about, he is borrowing the highly entertaining postings from here.

I LOVE DON AND MIKE!

To the "NotTheILoveD&MGuy" - That's a very insightful analyses, but I don't think the reason Don refuses to let this go is that deep. I really think it's a combination of self-destructive behavior and a desperate need for attention.

Not only that but, it's EXTREMELY selfish of Don to bring this shit up. Selfish because Bart has to listen to it, Big Freda has to listen to it and so do other family members and loved ones who in reality, Don should be trying to shield from all this crap. Think about that one!

If he truly cared about his family and THEIR feelings, I guarantee you, he'd ignore this shit, instead of bringing it up over and over again! Don, in my opinion, is a VERY egocentric and selfish person and his recent behavior only confirms that belief.

I LOVE DON AND MIKE!

An Open Letter to Don Geronimo

Don, if the show is so hard to do right now, please stay home until you feel up to dealing with the good, the bad and the ugly of being a public figure who, in all honesty created enough bad karma over the years by hiding behind the microphone through bullying callers, making fun of innocent guests who felt that they were being interviewed by a serious radio show, placing personals in the Washington Blade and relentless attacks on people like Jerry Lewis and Larry King. Remember, payback is a bitch. You have call screeners, a delay and a dump button...why don't you use them with people like the guy from Idaho called yesterday?

Is it tasteless that people are sending dead flowers and nasty cards to you and Bart? Sure, but are you really surprised? What kind of karma did you think that you earned given the way that you have treated people over the years. Simply stating the 'Don Geronimo' is a radio personality is a cop out and you know it. You are not a movie actor playing a role. No matter how you try to spin it Mike Sorce and Don Geronimo are the same person. While I agree that posting your address at sites like FFU may be inappropriate, the fact is that this is public information and sites like zabasearch provide this and more in a heartbeat. Should you be concerned about stalkers who drive by your house? Possibly, but threatening people on the air is not cool and the psychophants who are looking to crucify the webmaster and certain posters at FFU really need to be careful. What is Mike going to do, get the Manassas mafia to give these people cement shoes?

Please stop acting like an innocent victim in all of this. Maybe if you were really honest you would apologize for being an asshat over the years and show some humility. Until then, I think that you are going to hear a lot more from people who know that they can set you off and send you whimpering back to the bat cave. Regards, Jerry.

Well thought out and well said, Jerry!

And you say it's not deep? Re-read your words carefully and imagine the "sphere of influence" he posesses. His reach is great OUTSIDE his body, but inside, he can barely see through the anguish. So he reaches outside to find something that will help him inside. He has always been an "If it feels good, do it" type of guy, so that is the tool he is using. But this painful, destruction of himself is a merely "De-construction" process in order to help himself cope and come to terms with his new reality.
Ever notice how persons who have just lost loved ones can be interviewed on the Today Show or television right after it happens? Their reality hasn't set in yet and they are not able to put up their defence mechanisms yet. He's moving beyond that now and needing to learn to be himself tyhe way he always has been.
But the "angry" still feels too good to let go. And that's ok. His family understands and will not abandon him.

Of course, You knew I'd say that didn't you?

I LOVE DON AND MIKE!

Jerry Ferrara Wrote:
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> An Open Letter to Don Geronimo
>
> Don, if the show is so hard to do right now,
> please stay home until you feel up to dealing with
> the good, the bad and the ugly of being a public
> figure who, in all honesty created enough bad
> karma over the years by hiding behind the
> microphone through bullying callers, making fun of
> innocent guests who felt that they were being
> interviewed by a serious radio show, placing
> personals in the Washington Blade and relentless
> attacks on people like Jerry Lewis and Larry King.
> Remember, payback is a bitch. You have call
> screeners, a delay and a dump button...why don't
> you use them with people like the guy from Idaho
> called yesterday?
>
> Is it tasteless that people are sending dead
> flowers and nasty cards to you and Bart? Sure,
> but are you really surprised? What kind of karma
> did you think that you earned given the way that
> you have treated people over the years. Simply
> stating the 'Don Geronimo' is a radio personality
> is a cop out and you know it. You are not a movie
> actor playing a role. No matter how you try to
> spin it Mike Sorce and Don Geronimo are the same
> person. While I agree that posting your address
> at sites like FFU may be inappropriate, the fact
> is that this is public information and sites like
> zabasearch provide this and more in a heartbeat.
> Should you be concerned about stalkers who drive
> by your house? Possibly, but threatening people
> on the air is not cool and the psychophants who
> are looking to crucify the webmaster and certain
> posters at FFU really need to be careful. What is
> Mike going to do, get the Manassas mafia to give
> these people cement shoes?
>
> Please stop acting like an innocent victim in all
> of this. Maybe if you were really honest you would
> apologize for being an asshat over the years and
> show some humility. Until then, I think that you
> are going to hear a lot more from people who know
> that they can set you off and send you whimpering
> back to the bat cave. Regards, Jerry.

after the first sentence i decided to agree with you totaly. i didnt bother to read the rest and i am willing to say i agree to everything you said. goodjob

RE: JerryF: "Please stop acting like an innocent victim in all of this. Maybe if you were really honest you would apologize for being an asshat over the years and show some humility. Until then, I think that you are going to hear a lot more from people who know that they can set you off and send you whimpering back to the bat cave. Regards, Jerry."

Great Idea. BUt don't lose the show over it, most of us LOVE to hear Don go off! Gulp hard on the urge to make it personal, Find things to get angry at that are not individual people related (Save that for next season!) and do the show as you always have; in character, and confident as hell!

I LOVE DON AND MIKE!

Who doesn't ?

I LOVE DON AND MIKE!

I LOVE DON AND MIKE!

I LOVE DON AND MIKE!

I LOVE DON AND MIKE!

I LOVE DON AND MIKE!

CARY - Who does Don Geronimo think he is to insist you delete these threads. I hope you don't cave into his empty threats. Do what you feel you must, but I don't think he has ANY leagl grounds to demand censoring. What a hypocritical whiner he is! STAND YOUR GROUND!

I LOVE DON AND MIKE!

I LOVE DON AND MIKE!

I LOVE DON AND MIKE!

I have never in my life listened to a Don & Mike show. I heard ads for it on the radio while I listened to Stern, but I never bothered to check it out. In any event, regardless of whether you like or hate these guys, this is America. We can say whatever we want, no matter how much of a jackass we might make ourselves look like in the process.

PS - I overheard a co-worker talking about this thread, and I was curious.

Anyone who would have the stupidity to make fun of someone who has lost a loved one is an outright asshole. You are an inhuman, ignorant asshole. Don't you have a life? How could you be so cold and unfeeling to others? Just remember, what goes around comes around. You WILL get yours.

I LOVE DON AND MIKE!

I LOVE DON AND MIKE!

I LOVE DON AND MIKE!

DeeAnn Wrote:
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> Anyone who would have the stupidity to make fun of
> someone who has lost a loved one is an outright
> asshole. You are an inhuman, ignorant asshole.
> Don't you have a life? How could you be so cold
> and unfeeling to others? Just remember, what goes
> around comes around. You WILL get yours.


Exactly, thats why Don got his.



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TheILoveD&MGuy Wrote:
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> I LOVE DON AND MIKE!


these posts are gonna cause some visits to the grease balls house, lmao. keep em coming

Baltimore80 I don't care who you are or what you do but no one, not ever a jackass like you deserve to go through anything like that. My god, the women’s body was so destroyed they could not even use her organs to save someone else. I can't believe there are fuckin jerks like you out there. I will pray for you but I don't think it will help. You were born an asshole and you’re just getting bigger.

what does that have to do with an asshole posting "i love don and mike" every min to ruin a website??

This website should never even exist. If there is a way to ruin it then by all means lets all join in.

Here's the bottom line...there are good people out there that can commend him for going to work and trying to laugh for his own well being. it's inspirational, absolutley inspirational. there are good people who stand by him, with him, and pray for him, and anyone that would use his personal tragedy which none of us, myself included, have any right to try to empathize with, but would us it to breate him at a time like this is just truly sick. we're with you don...stick it out. you are the radio lance armstrong....well w/o the doping that is :)

Go the fuck away.
All of you.
This is NOT a Don & Mike website.

Also, the "TheILoveD&MGuy" is an NIH employee (figures, our governemnt only hires the best and brightest) and has been banned.

hey cary, this is an open forum so you say...i have a right to voice my support

I would like to take this opportunity to welcome EVERYONE to the United States of America. The GREATEST country in the WORLD. The Founding Fathers of this great country gave us the Constitution of the United States, http://www.usconstitution.net and in 1791 the US Congress made the first amendment to the Constitution, http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#Am1 People are dying everyday protecting our freedom and our unalienable rights as described in the Constitution.

Whether we agree or disagree with the postings of individuals on this forum it doesn't matter. These people have the RIGHT (not the priviledge) of saying what they want to in open forums. They can speak for things they are in favor of and can speak against things they don't like.

I would like to thank our country's Founding Fathers for providing us with the basis of our freedom.

If you disagree with the posts on this forum you are better off NOT posting your views in my opinion. The more traffic this site sees, the more well known it is going to become which I am guessing will be against what you would like to see happen to this site.

AND... if you don't think that the people have the RIGHT to say what they want (whether it is right or wrong) I suggest you revoke your citizenship, move to another country and go stand in line for bread, toilet paper, bottled water, medicine, an education, to be told who you will marry and whatever else these foreign governments want to bestow upon you.

Semper Fi

The founding fathers also say blacks are 3/5 of people and women have no rights, lmao. Idiots referencing stuff from the 18th century.

Well, isn't that something!!!

hey cary ,
so when you going down to give them the speech about the 1st amendment, but i don't think you have the balls to go face to face with them you chickenshit.



how about you go fucking go away.

Cary, you are scum. You in-bred Virginia freaks bitch and moan about how your board has been taken over by D&M fans. JUST DELETE THESE FUCKING BOARDS AND WE'LL GO AWAY! UNTIL THEN WE WILL PLAGUE YOU!

FairfaxBlows Wrote:
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> Cary, you are scum. You in-bred Virginia freaks
> bitch and moan about how your board has been taken
> over by D&M fans. JUST DELETE THESE FUCKING
> BOARDS AND WE'LL GO AWAY! UNTIL THEN WE WILL
> PLAGUE YOU!
>


Lmao, awwwww Don and Monkey fans are getting mad. So cute.

Cary seems to be getting mad.
Well back to the topic at had.
So Cary was given a box to stand on.. Oh but you didn't take it
Oh no Cary use this moment instead
Wasn't your address posted
You seemed to have deleted it.. cause it doesn't seem to be in the HIDDENs.
Have a nice day

Some people really make me sick. I cant believe what the world is comming to. Enjoy the firepits of hell.

I think Don and Mike are right - all you pathetic guys talking about freda are nothing but kid touchers living in your mom's basement. You guys make me sick and if i got the chance, i'd break your knee caps - just for fun. Say what you will about me, but i'm not gonna burn in hell or be raped in prison. It gives me a bit of hope knowing you asshats will be! Karma is a bitch remember that you shit heads. And just think when you die no one will care, how does that make you feel?

There is show and then there is life. There are no comments or actions that I can think of that would ever provoke me to wish death on someone or their spouse. It is entertainment. A two bit hack trying to get a name is fine but not off of heinous comments on a persons demise. Never met her, never knew her, cried like a baby when she passed. She brought a perspective on life and living with an um-dmub husband. I hope my wife can cleave to me like she did Donny G!

There is no excuse for the other person's reckless driving. Nothing can be done by anyone at that closure rate.

I am not one to comment but it all hit me today as I watched a friend be buried at Arlington National today in Service to this great country. It hit me like a ton of bricks thinking about the long good-bye. Don on the air is my kind of asshole. Don in real life I don't know but I can figure him out. Learn to make a distinction between life and fantasy.

Don G. Thanks for 11 years of great entertainment and sharing a sliver of Freda with us. Rock on you fat bastard! Rock on!!

Moo moo, cuckoo

A quote from the kind and compassionate DeeAnn: "This website should never even exist. If there is a way to ruin it then by all means lets all join in."

What a hypocrite you turned out to be you nasty, bitter and, I don't want to forget, overweight BITCH!!



P.S. Thank you, Cary for banning the "TheILoveD&MGuy". Now can you delete his posts?

how would you feel if that was your mother in that crash? you are a fucking asshole

i agree this meanless website should not exist don & mike are human treat them that way

terry in va Wrote:
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> i agree this meanless website should not exist
> don & mike are human treat them that way


It wouldn't exist if you assholes would stop coming here.

to all you numb skull fucks who keep saying that don got his:

don geronimo is a fucking character on the radio and mike sorce is a human being. it's a bit! what he says as don is to get a reaction and that's all. i suppose you idiots also think that carrol o'connor is really a racist because he played archie bunker. it's a fucking bit. pull your heads out of your collective asses and learn how to get jokes!

Cary Wrote:
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> Go the fuck away.
> All of you.
> This is NOT a Don & Mike website.
>
> Also, the "TheILoveD&MGuy" is an NIH employee
> (figures, our governemnt only hires the best and
> brightest) and has been banned.



Ah, from the champion of free speech.

What happened, did you lose your commitment to free speech? When some low life posted comments about a dead woman that were completely out of line, you were the champion of free speech. Now you want people to go away, and you banned someone whose speech you didnt like.

Beautiful

dfrc_is_an_asshat Wrote:
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> to all you numb skull fucks who keep saying that
> don got his:
>
> don geronimo is a fucking character on the radio
> and mike sorce is a human being. it's a bit!
> what he says as don is to get a reaction and
> that's all. i suppose you idiots also think that
> carrol o'connor is really a racist because he
> played archie bunker. it's a fucking bit. pull
> your heads out of your collective asses and learn
> how to get jokes!


So was it don geronimo or mike sorce who mentioned this site and read posts from it on the air?



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And while we are on the subject of free speech and hypocrisy, how about this gem from Cary's "privacy policy"?

"No information concerning the identity of a poster/viewer will ever be provided to an individual or organization"

Unless of course that information is the employer of a poster whose posts Cary doesnt like. Then he will provide information about that poster's employer.

If the guy from NIH gets fired over this, I know a dozen lawyers who would love to take the case.

You go Cary, you old free speech defender.

Hypocrite Spotter Wrote:
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> >
> And while we are on the subject of free speech and
> hypocrisy, how about this gem from Cary's "privacy
> policy"?
>
> "No information concerning the identity of a
> poster/viewer will ever be provided to an
> individual or organization"
>
> Unless of course that information is the employer
> of a poster whose posts Cary doesnt like. Then he
> will provide information about that poster's
> employer.
>
> If the guy from NIH gets fired over this, I know a
> dozen lawyers who would love to take the case.
>
> You go Cary, you old free speech defender.

On what grounds? Glad to see you're an expert in the civil law of MD/DC/VA.

edit: As a matter of fact, there's a federal whistleblower law that would give Cary a reward for pointing out the waste of time and resources by this employee.




Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 08/25/2005 09:53PM by mad max, JD.

And state contract law that could find that Cary breached a contract by posting the information in violation of his privacy policy.

And you might want to go research that whistleblower law.

He violated his own privacy policy? So he could sue himself? If the NIH employee is a contractor and using govt computer to flood this forum, that's waste.

Hey Mr. JD.

Cary's decision to ban the NIH guy wasn't exactly, what's that phrase the lawyers love......oh yeah, it wasnt "content neutral" was it?

Its Cary's website, he can ban users and post whatever the fuck the he wants.

mad max, JD Wrote:
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> Its Cary's website, he can ban users and post
> whatever the fuck the he wants.


He CAN? What happened to that vaunted principle of free speech which he defended so valiantly when the low life posted about the dead wife of a radio DJ?

If Cary is so concerned about free speech, why does he ban someone whose posts he doesn't like?

Is he only concerned with free speech he likes?

Not too free is it?

Free speech pertains to freedom from government censorship. Everyone here does not seem to understand that.

Ah, I knew we would get here eventually.

So you agree that Cary's reliance on the First Amendement's guarantee of Freedom of Speech was misplaced in that this is a privately run web site and he is under no compulsion by the First Amendment to refrain from censoring the site?

Let me ask you Mr. JD, did you bother to correct Cary when he brought up the First Amendment defense?

Cary can say what he wants on this site. This includes claiming he has the First Amendment right to post what he wants, right or wrong. It is not my place nor anyone else's to correct him.

Not your place?

Tell me, whose place is it to make fun of someone's dead wife?

Anyone who cares to. It is the choice of the widower and his fans to be offended by it.

I smell a hypocrite! Cary is a little, whiny bitch. Your freedom is protected until I want to call you out for calling me out. That is a bitch ass move Cary. You no longer have any credibility. Defender of free speech? Champion of the first amendment? What a bunch of shit you little pig fucker.

So you ignore what i've said and regress to arguments i've shot down. Nice job.

So it is not about "place" but about "choice"

We'll recap.

Some low life "chooses" to post some contemptible crap about a dead woman.

Cary "chooses" to allow it to remain on his website while citing the First Amendment.

You, who apparently have a "JD" know that the First Amendment claim is bogus but "choose" not to correct Cary's misapprehension.

Cary "chooses" to have a privacy policy on his site.

Cary "chooses" to violate the privacy policy by posting employment information about a contributor to the board.

Cary "chooses" to ban a poster because he doesn't like the content of his posts, apparently forgetting his deep and abiding devotion to the "First Amendment"

Did I leave anything out?

You forgot that cary chooses to touch little boys and take pictures of them. i don't like that and i hate him.

You have to be a pretty big asshole to talk shit about another man's deceased wife. Public figure or not, some lines should never be crossed. You limp-dicked little bitches hide behind the anonymity of the internet but someday you'll get yours. I hope you find death as funny now as when it happens to someone close to you.

Asshats.

mad max, JD Wrote:
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> So you ignore what i've said and regress to
> arguments i've shot down. Nice job.


You havent shot down a single argument I have made.

Hypocrite Spotter Wrote:
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> So it is not about "place" but about "choice"
>
> We'll recap.
>
> Some low life "chooses" to post some contemptible
> crap about a dead woman.

Perfectly within anybody's right.
>
> Cary "chooses" to allow it to remain on his
> website while citing the First Amendment.

Claims the wrong defense, but still within his rights as he owns the site.
>
> You, who apparently have a "JD" know that the
> First Amendment claim is bogus but "choose" not to
> correct Cary's misapprehension.

Not sure you know what misapprehension means, but sure, Cary runs the site and not everyone is a constitutional expert.
>
> Cary "chooses" to have a privacy policy on his
> site.

Of his own creation.
>
> Cary "chooses" to violate the privacy policy by
> posting employment information about a contributor
> to the board.

Violates his own privacy policy, again, it's his site.
>
> Cary "chooses" to ban a poster because he doesn't
> like the content of his posts, apparently
> forgetting his deep and abiding devotion to the
> "First Amendment"

It's his site, he can ban users whenever he feels like it. If he banned me, hey, it's HIS SITE.
>
> Did I leave anything out?

Nope, I covered them all before.

Did the champion of free speech and the first amendment also "choose" to break the law many, many times?

"WIEDEMANN ","CARY ","S","020"," 13802","VALLEY COUNTRY ","DR","CHANTILLY ","VA","01/25/2004","FAIL TO APPEAR SUSP LIC "
"WIEDMANN ","CARY ","S","020"," 13802","VALLEY COUNTRY ","DR","CHANTILLY ","VA","01/31/2004","P/ID OTHER HALLUCINOGENIC "
"WIEDEMANN ","CARY ","S","019"," 13802","VALLEY COUNTRY ","DR","CHANTILLY ","VA","03/28/2003","EXP COUNTY STICKER "
"WIEDEMANN ","CARY ","S","019"," 13802","VALLEY COUNTRY ","DR","CHANTILLY ","VA","03/28/2003","FAIL OBEY HWY SIGN "
"WIEDEMANN ","CARY ","S","019"," 13802","VALLEY COUNTRY ","DR","CHANTILLY ","VA","10/26/2003","DRIVE-OL RVKD/SUSP "
"WIEDEMANN ","CARY ","S","019"," 13802","VALLEY COUNTRY ","DR","CHANTILLY ","VA","10/26/2003","EXPIRED STATE LIC PLATE "
"WIEDEMANN ","CARY ","S","019"," 13802","VALLEY COUNTRY ","DR","CHANTILLY ","VA","10/26/2003","EXP COUNTY STICKER "
"WIEDEMANN ","CARY ","S","019"," 13802","VALLEY COUNTRY ","DR","CHANTILLY ","VA","12/09/2003","EXPIRED STATE LIC PLATE "
"WIEDEMANN ","CARY ","S","019"," 13802","VALLEY COUNTRY ","DR","CHANTILLY ","VA","12/09/2003","DRIVE-OL RVKD/SUSP "
"WIEDEMANN ","CARY ","S","019"," 13802","VALLEY COUNTRY ","DR","CHANTILLY ","VA","12/09/2003","POSS MARIJUANA "
"WIEDEMANN ","CARY ","S","019"," 13802","VALLEY COUNTRY ","DR","CHANTILLY ","VA","12/09/2003","MFG/SALE/POSS OF FICT/SIMUL OL "
"WIEDEMANN ","CARY ","S","019"," 13802","VALLEY COUNTRY ","DR","CHANTILLY ","VA","12/08/2003","DRIVE-OL RVKD/SUSP "
"WIEDEMANN ","CARY ","S","019"," 13802","VALLEY COUNTRY ","DR","CHANTILLY ","VA","12/08/2003","EXPIRED STATE LIC PLATE


LET THE TRUTH BE SUNG FROM THE MOUNTAINTOPS. CARY IS A CRIMINAL AND A HYPOCRITE.

It also looks like Cary hasn't been a very good influence on his little brother either.

"WIEDEMANN ","JONATHAN ","R","019"," 13802","VALLEY COUNTRY ","DR","CHANTILLY ","VA","06/20/2005","TRESPASS-PUBLIC PROP "


Cary, Cary, Cary. Your mother must be so proud of you boys.

mad max, JD Wrote:
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> Hypocrite Spotter Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Not sure you know what misapprehension means,


Oh, but Mr. JD, I know exactly what it means, do you?

misapprehension

n : an understanding of something that is not correct



Just like I know what hypocrite means

hypocrite

n : a person who professes beliefs and opinions that he does not hold

You know, like Cary.

I wonder how long old Cary would believe in free speech if his credit card numbers got posted here?

Ah, they're probably maxed out anyway paying the fines on all those little transgressions.

So you resort to definitions to defend your argument when you have absolutely no substance. Nice job.

mad max, JD Wrote:
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> So you resort to definitions to defend your
> argument when you have absolutely no substance.
> Nice job.


Ah, but it is you who injected the question of definition isnt it? You played and lost. Please try again.

No substance? I have proven irrefutably my point.

That Cary is a hypocrite.

You havent even tried to touch that, even though you have a JD and everything.

I dont really listen to this show that much but even if this guy was the biggest a-hole people say he is, he is still human and his tragedy an overwhelming one. He has guts to be in the air after such a life shaking experience.
My condolences Don. Remember that even among a string of unsimpatetic bastards who take what they have for granted, there are many who not only respect your work, but also wish you the best.

I really dont know your work, but I admire you for your courage sir.

Hypocrite Spotter Wrote:
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> mad max, JD Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > So you resort to definitions to defend your
> > argument when you have absolutely no
> substance.
> > Nice job.
>
>
> Ah, but it is you who injected the question of
> definition isnt it? You played and lost. Please
> try again.
>
> No substance? I have proven irrefutably my
> point.
>
> That Cary is a hypocrite.
>
> You havent even tried to touch that, even though
> you have a JD and everything.

You get me on 1 of 7 arguments and claim a win. I'm pretty sure I've shown your points have no merit, so how is that irrefutable? And so what if Cary's a hypocrite. You could start your own site and say what you want. If he goes back on his word to a bunch of people who he doesn't give a shit about, he's allowed to. IT'S HIS SITE.

mad max, JD Wrote:
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> Hypocrite Spotter Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > mad max, JD Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > So you resort to definitions to defend
> your
> > > argument when you have absolutely no
> > substance.
> > > Nice job.
> >
> >
> > Ah, but it is you who injected the question
> of
> > definition isnt it? You played and lost.
> Please
> > try again.
> >
> > No substance? I have proven irrefutably my
> > point.
> >
> > That Cary is a hypocrite.
> >
> > You havent even tried to touch that, even
> though
> > you have a JD and everything.
>
> You get me on 1 of 7 arguments and claim a win.
> I'm pretty sure I've shown your points have no
> merit, so how is that irrefutable? And so what if
> Cary's a hypocrite. You could start your own site
> and say what you want. If he goes back on his
> word to a bunch of people who he doesn't give a
> shit about, he's allowed to. IT'S HIS SITE.
>



>

One out of seven? My only point is that Cary is a hypocrite. You admit as much.

The rest weren't arguments Mr. JD. They were facts, illustrating Cary's hypocrisy.

Claim victory if you like. Is that what they taught you in law school?

My niggas will fry my niggas will rob

My niggas keep niggas on they f*ckin' job (edited for content)

My niggas know what it's like when shit gettin' hard

mad max, JD Wrote:
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> dfrc_is_an_asshat Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > to all you numb skull fucks who keep saying
> that
> > don got his:
> >
> > don geronimo is a fucking character on the
> radio
> > and mike sorce is a human being. it's a bit!
>
> > what he says as don is to get a reaction and
> > that's all. i suppose you idiots also think
> that
> > carrol o'connor is really a racist because
> he
> > played archie bunker. it's a fucking bit.
> pull
> > your heads out of your collective asses and
> learn
> > how to get jokes!
>
>
> So was it don geronimo or mike sorce who mentioned
> this site and read posts from it on the air?
>
>
>
> Edited 1 times. Last edit at 08/25/05 09:15PM by
> mad max, JD.


don't try to twist the point you sanctimonious, self-professed know-it-all and champion knob gobbler. it doesn't matter who read it. the POINT (yes there is one) is that stupid fucks like you don't seem to understand that there is a difference between a FICTITIOUS character and a real person. making light of the tragic death of a man's wife just because you don't like the character the guy plays on the radio is simply tasteless and uncalled for. yes the guy is free to do it if he chooses to do so, but it's not about freedom...it's about taste. in this case you have a moron who has no life attempting to draw attention to himself by posting tasteless comments on a website.

based on the responses i've seen from you i can clearly see that you're no denny crane. wait, is he real or fictitious???

My niggas stay pullin' you other niggas cards

My niggas It's God my niggas we'll shine

My niggas just knew it was a matter of time

My niggas let me know to keep fuckin' with the rhymes

My niggas ain't no longer livin' with crime

My niggas is fine my niggas is good

Hypocrisy Spotter Wrote:
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> mad max, JD Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Hypocrite Spotter Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > mad max, JD Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > So you resort to definitions to
> defend
> > your
> > > > argument when you have absolutely
> no
> > > substance.
> > > > Nice job.
> > >
> > >
> > > Ah, but it is you who injected the
> question
> > of
> > > definition isnt it? You played and
> lost.
> > Please
> > > try again.
> > >
> > > No substance? I have proven irrefutably
> my
> > > point.
> > >
> > > That Cary is a hypocrite.
> > >
> > > You havent even tried to touch that,
> even
> > though
> > > you have a JD and everything.
> >
> > You get me on 1 of 7 arguments and claim a
> win.
> > I'm pretty sure I've shown your points have
> no
> > merit, so how is that irrefutable? And so
> what if
> > Cary's a hypocrite. You could start your own
> site
> > and say what you want. If he goes back on
> his
> > word to a bunch of people who he doesn't give
> a
> > shit about, he's allowed to. IT'S HIS SITE.
> >
>
>
>
> >
>
> One out of seven? My only point is that Cary is a
> hypocrite. You admit as much.
>
> The rest weren't arguments Mr. JD. They were
> facts, illustrating Cary's hypocrisy.
>
> Claim victory if you like. Is that what they
> taught you in law school?
>
>
>
>
>

So is he supposed to care if you call him a hypocrite? And your facts were wrong, as I showed.

My niggas keep you niggas knocking on wood

My niggas know how to take it back to the hood

My niggas will put you down right where you stood

mad max, JD Wrote:
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> Hypocrisy Spotter Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > mad max, JD Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Hypocrite Spotter Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > mad max, JD Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > So you resort to definitions
> to
> > defend
> > > your
> > > > > argument when you have
> absolutely
> > no
> > > > substance.
> > > > > Nice job.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ah, but it is you who injected the
> > question
> > > of
> > > > definition isnt it? You played
> and
> > lost.
> > > Please
> > > > try again.
> > > >
> > > > No substance? I have proven
> irrefutably
> > my
> > > > point.
> > > >
> > > > That Cary is a hypocrite.
> > > >
> > > > You havent even tried to touch
> that,
> > even
> > > though
> > > > you have a JD and everything.
> > >
> > > You get me on 1 of 7 arguments and claim
> a
> > win.
> > > I'm pretty sure I've shown your points
> have
> > no
> > > merit, so how is that irrefutable? And
> so
> > what if
> > > Cary's a hypocrite. You could start
> your own
> > site
> > > and say what you want. If he goes back
> on
> > his
> > > word to a bunch of people who he doesn't
> give
> > a
> > > shit about, he's allowed to. IT'S HIS
> SITE.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> >
> > One out of seven? My only point is that Cary
> is a
> > hypocrite. You admit as much.
> >
> > The rest weren't arguments Mr. JD. They
> were
> > facts, illustrating Cary's hypocrisy.
> >
> > Claim victory if you like. Is that what
> they
> > taught you in law school?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> So is he supposed to care if you call him a
> hypocrite? And your facts were wrong, as I
> showed.
>
>

So you want to be schooled again?

What facts are wrong Mr. JD?

My niggas is still my niggas is dogs my niggas

"My Niggas"

By DMX

CanMessageBoardsGetBoggedDown Wrote:
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> "My Niggas"
>
> By DMX


Know any more?

> So it is not about "place" but about "choice"
>
> We'll recap.
>
> Some low life "chooses" to post some contemptible
> crap about a dead woman.

Perfectly within anybody's right.
>
> Cary "chooses" to allow it to remain on his
> website while citing the First Amendment.

Claims the wrong defense, but still within his rights as he owns the site.
>
> You, who apparently have a "JD" know that the
> First Amendment claim is bogus but "choose" not to
> correct Cary's misapprehension.

Not sure you know what misapprehension means, but sure, Cary runs the site and not everyone is a constitutional expert.
>
> Cary "chooses" to have a privacy policy on his
> site.

Of his own creation.
>
> Cary "chooses" to violate the privacy policy by
> posting employment information about a contributor
> to the board.

Violates his own privacy policy, again, it's his site.
>
> Cary "chooses" to ban a poster because he doesn't
> like the content of his posts, apparently
> forgetting his deep and abiding devotion to the
> "First Amendment"

It's his site, he can ban users whenever he feels like it. If he banned me, hey, it's HIS SITE.
>
> Did I leave anything out?

Nope, I covered them all before.

pretty sure i covered them all there, and again, he doesn't care that you think he's a hypocrite. The weak argument would be to go after the definition again.

Sure! The Brothers Karamazov

By Fyodor Mikhailovich Dostoevsky

Part I

Book I

The History of a Family

mad max, JD Wrote:
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> > So it is not about "place" but about "choice"
>
> >
> > We'll recap.
> >
> > Some low life "chooses" to post some
> contemptible
> > crap about a dead woman.
>
> Perfectly within anybody's right.
> >
> > Cary "chooses" to allow it to remain on his
> > website while citing the First Amendment.
>
> Claims the wrong defense, but still within his
> rights as he owns the site.
> >
> > You, who apparently have a "JD" know that the
>
> > First Amendment claim is bogus but "choose"
> not to
> > correct Cary's misapprehension.
>
> Not sure you know what misapprehension means, but
> sure, Cary runs the site and not everyone is a
> constitutional expert.
> >
> > Cary "chooses" to have a privacy policy on
> his
> > site.
>
> Of his own creation.
> >
> > Cary "chooses" to violate the privacy policy
> by
> > posting employment information about a
> contributor
> > to the board.
>
> Violates his own privacy policy, again, it's his
> site.
> >
> > Cary "chooses" to ban a poster because he
> doesn't
> > like the content of his posts, apparently
> > forgetting his deep and abiding devotion to
> the
> > "First Amendment"
>
> It's his site, he can ban users whenever he feels
> like it. If he banned me, hey, it's HIS SITE.
> >
> > Did I leave anything out?
>
> Nope, I covered them all before.
>
> pretty sure i covered them all there, and again,
> he doesn't care that you think he's a hypocrite.
> The weak argument would be to go after the
> definition again.



Yeah, you covered them all before, and admitted each one was correct. Then you post that they were incorrect.

Come on, tell me which ones were incorrect. In the above quoted post you admit they were all correct.

Never said whether Cary cared or not.

Just said he was a hypocrite.

And proved it.

You agreed, and your retort was "Cary doesnt care"

Hows that JD treatin ya?

Chapter I. Fyodor Pavlovitch Karamazov

Alexey Fyodorovitch Karamazov (hereto refered to as AFK) was the third son of Fyodor Pavlovitch Karamazov (hereto refered to as FPK), a landowner well know in our district in his own day, and still remembered among us owing to his gloomy and tragic death, which happened thirteen years ago, and which I shall describe in its proper place.

For the present I will only say that this "landowner" - for so we used to call him, although he hardly spent a day of his life on his own estate - was a strange type, yet one pretty frequently to be met with, a type abject and vicious and at the same time senseless.

CanMessageBoardsGetBoggedDown Wrote:
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> Chapter I. Fyodor Pavlovitch Karamazov
>
> Alexey Fyodorovitch Karamazov (hereto refered to
> as AFK) was the third son of Fyodor Pavlovitch
> Karamazov (hereto refered to as FPK), a landowner
> well know in our district in his own day, and
> still remembered among us owing to his gloomy and
> tragic death, which happened thirteen years ago,
> and which I shall describe in its proper place.


Cant say I blame ya for the initials thing.

Do you take requests?

CanMessageBoardsGetBoggedDown Wrote:
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> For the present I will only say that this
> "landowner" - for so we used to call him, although
> he hardly spent a day of his life on his own
> estate - was a strange type, yet one pretty
> frequently to be met with, a type abject and
> vicious and at the same time senseless.


You mean a "gadfly"?

Well, I guess that having his ass whipped tired old Mr. JD out so he put on his little JD jammies, the ones with the scales of justice all over them and laid his little JD head down to fall asleep to a Matlock re run.

Sleep tight Mr. JD man.

So he's a hypocrite, now what? it's still his site.

Hell, I'm wrong, Cary's wrong, we're all wrong. Does that mean you people will go away?

mad max, JD Wrote:
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> So he's a hypocrite, now what? it's still his
> site.


Glad you agree.

As for "Its still his site" did you stick out your tongue and say nanny nanny boo boo when you typed it?

Yeah its his site. And its open to the great unwashed. He can post what he wants and allow what he wants to be posted.

And he can be exposed for being the whining hypocrite he is.

And you can have your JD ass whipped in an argument.

Its all good.

Hypocrite Spotter Wrote:
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> mad max, JD Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > So he's a hypocrite, now what? it's still
> his
> > site.
>
>
> Glad you agree.
>
> As for "Its still his site" did you stick out
> your tongue and say nanny nanny boo boo when you
> typed it?
>
> Yeah its his site. And its open to the great
> unwashed. He can post what he wants and allow
> what he wants to be posted.
>
> And he can be exposed for being the whining
> hypocrite he is.
>
> And you can have your JD ass whipped in an
> argument.
>
> Its all good.



[puddy] high five! [/puddy]

Cary,
can you lock this thread already. i think it's outstayed it's welcome.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

Of course he won't lock it. He said he would move it and didn't, so if he said he'd lock it he'd lie just like he has been.

it's getting moved somewhere i don't care about very soon

How is it some of my messages have been deleted? Is this not a truly free speech forum?

Sure, Cary's free speech and those he deems worthy. If you haven't noticed, Cary is GOD and we all worship him. His following continues growing as you can tell by the number of postings here.

Cary's free speech prohibits classic literature? Sounds fascist. Maybe I should try something more modern. Nabokov's "Lolita" for instance.

I'm currently on break at work, but I'll have access to a different computer later this evening. See you all then! Might be on a different non-D&M board though. These are too cluttered, don't you think?

A flood warning exists for this website until cary removes nasty and unnecessary posts about Freda and apologizes to Don. This whole situation could have been fixed a long time ago if cary didn't have to play such a martyr for free speech and used a little human decency and respect.

A flood warning exists for this website until cary removes nasty and unnecessary posts about Freda and apologizes to Don. This whole situation could have been fixed a long time ago if cary didn't have to play such a martyr for free speech and used a little human decency and respect.

he will give little boys candy for sex

He only gave me one teeny tiny tootsie roll and then he started touching me and taking pictures of my who-ha. cary is a bad, bad man and I hate him.

Hey Cary; are you going on the air with Don today to apologize for this mess so that we can put this behind us? Enough is enough.

Fucking bottom feeders.

First-
From up here in NY (ie: civilization) you are all a bunch of redneck retards. Second- may the writers who thought themselves clever by besmirching the honor of a dead woman face a slew of misfortunes in their loseresque lives.

May your children, children's children, best friends (doubt you have any), parents, cousins, lawyers, etc. all die in a 9-11 type attack. May it come so quickly that there is no time for goodbyes. While you are drying your eyes in a state of heart break and loneliness may a drunken midget clown come to your house and laugh and laugh at how truly lame your life has become.

May you wake one morning to find your penis full of chancres and your face pitted like Tommy Lee Jones. Then, as you take a step out of bed, may the ground beneath you start to fall. And fall and fall. You land in a bear trap and are savagely torn apart and left to fend for yourself sans arms and legs...just your bloody heartless torso. Just when you start to feel some relief from your pain...may a sweet deer take a look and you and shit upon your broken body.
There is a line between funny and bitter. I realize that you feel bad for not having a lucrative radio career and life at Arby's isn't what you thought it would be..you should develop a real sense of humor then maybe you could have an eighth of that talent and character that Don and Mike possess.

May Freda in her death haunt you like Patrick Swayze in ghost and perhaps one day you'll be carted off to hell by black shadows.

-School teacher w/ a summer off

Well said, milady.

DON AND MIKE FANS! GO THE FUCK AWAY!!!!!!!!!


OPIE & ANTHONY!!
XM RADIO!!

WHere is the free speech you always talk about?

Boy, I am so glad I live in Maryland, because all you people in Virginia need to get lives. You want it all to stop, but you keep going. Your all pathetic. Are you all over the age of 18 or are you all still wet behind the ears? You all need to do alot of growing up!

Well, isn't that something?

How about that?

Cary sucks. That is all. Good day.

Nicole O'Galvin Wrote:
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> First-
> From up here in NY (ie: civilization) you are all
> a bunch of redneck retards. Second- may the
> writers who thought themselves clever by
> besmirching the honor of a dead woman face a slew
> of misfortunes in their loseresque lives.
>
> May your children, children's children, best
> friends (doubt you have any), parents, cousins,
> lawyers, etc. all die in a 9-11 type attack. May
> it come so quickly that there is no time for
> goodbyes. While you are drying your eyes in a
> state of heart break and loneliness may a drunken
> midget clown come to your house and laugh and
> laugh at how truly lame your life has become.
>
> May you wake one morning to find your penis full
> of chancres and your face pitted like Tommy Lee
> Jones. Then, as you take a step out of bed, may
> the ground beneath you start to fall. And fall
> and fall. You land in a bear trap and are savagely
> torn apart and left to fend for yourself sans arms
> and legs...just your bloody heartless torso. Just
> when you start to feel some relief from your
> pain...may a sweet deer take a look and you and
> shit upon your broken body.
> There is a line between funny and bitter. I
> realize that you feel bad for not having a
> lucrative radio career and life at Arby's isn't
> what you thought it would be..you should develop a
> real sense of humor then maybe you could have an
> eighth of that talent and character that Don and
> Mike possess.
>
> May Freda in her death haunt you like Patrick
> Swayze in ghost and perhaps one day you'll be
> carted off to hell by black shadows.
>
> -School teacher w/ a summer off

*pouts*

I used to live in Buffalo and I had to move down here

poor me

Officer tina, you were always much more entertaining than the D&M people.

cary told me he had a daisy, but it was brown. :(

What type of person would talk about his parents the way Mike Sorce talks aout his? He was adopted and all he talks about is how he wishes they were dead.

Cary I am sure would do that

BAcardi Wrote:
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> What type of person would talk about his parents
> the way Mike Sorce talks aout his? He was adopted
> and all he talks about is how he wishes they were
> dead.


If you listened to the show on a regular basis BAcardi, you would know why Don talks about his parents the way that he does. They were mentally abusive and cruel towards him and his brother and continued to be that way long after he had moved out of their house. I'm sure that's partly why Don is the way he is now. That's neither here nor there though. The victim of abuse as a child is welcome to wish death on their abuser anytime publicly or privately in my book becuase there is no justification for treating a child that way ever.

now the question is what is free speach. Is burning a flag to show opposion to a nation free speach? Is putting I love don and mike over and over agian a example of free speach? Now you may think what in the hell is this guy talking about. Burning a flag what the hell man that has no relavance to this argument. Just for the people that like to study law, or think they do know all the laws, lets go to a supreme court case where flag burning was stated to be a protected way of free speach. Now some of us might know of Johnson vs texas. where a man burned a flag to show opsition to the 1985 flag burning law. This man was found to be not gulity and protected from the goverment. So is banning a manon a internet website, who puts i love don and mike over and over agian in the same rank as a flag burning case in 1985. I would think so.Now what is the first admendment, The freedom of speach, religon, petion, and assembly. Now dose this website condone that right. Or better yet a man that writes slander and then hides behind the sheild of the first amendment better than a man who writes i love don and mike over and over agian. Well the webmaster thinks that the man who writes slander is much more intitled to have the first amendment then the man who writes i love don and mike over and over agian. Now dose that make the webmaster a hyprocrite yes it dose. Hypocrisy Spotter makes a good point of showing that. Now people if we use are common sence we would be able to see that simple truth.And the truth is cary the so called 1st amendment defender is truley a hyprocrite with a agenda.

common sence--well put. +1 reputation point for you, although the spelling leaves a bit to be desired. I can overlook that though as your points are well said.

common sence Wrote:
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> now the question is what is free speach. Is
> burning a flag to show opposion to a nation free
> speach? Is putting I love don and mike over and
> over agian a example of free speach? Now you may
> think what in the hell is this guy talking about.
> Burning a flag what the hell man that has no
> relavance to this argument. Just for the people
> that like to study law, or think they do know all
> the laws, lets go to a supreme court case where
> flag burning was stated to be a protected way of
> free speach. Now some of us might know of Johnson
> vs texas. where a man burned a flag to show
> opsition to the 1985 flag burning law. This man
> was found to be not gulity and protected from the
> goverment. So is banning a manon a internet
> website, who puts i love don and mike over and
> over agian in the same rank as a flag burning case
> in 1985. I would think so.Now what is the first
> admendment, The freedom of speach, religon,
> petion, and assembly. Now dose this website
> condone that right. Or better yet a man that
> writes slander and then hides behind the sheild of
> the first amendment better than a man who writes i
> love don and mike over and over agian. Well the
> webmaster thinks that the man who writes slander
> is much more intitled to have the first amendment
> then the man who writes i love don and mike over
> and over agian. Now dose that make the webmaster a
> hyprocrite yes it dose. Hypocrisy Spotter makes a
> good point of showing that. Now people if we use
> are common sence we would be able to see that
> simple truth.And the truth is cary the so called
> 1st amendment defender is truley a hyprocrite with
> a agenda.



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lmao, last time I checked burning something has nothing to do with speech, its called arson.

FYI from California

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According to California Law
Title 13.

Section 451. A person is guilty of arson when he or she willfully and
maliciously sets fire to or burns or causes to be burned or who aids,
counsels, or procures the burning of, any structure, forest land, or
property.
(a) Arson that causes great bodily injury is a felony punishable
by imprisonment in the state prison for five, seven, or nine years.
(b) Arson that causes an inhabited structure or inhabited property
to burn is a felony punishable by imprisonment in the state prison
for three, five, or eight years.
(c) Arson of a structure or forest land is a felony punishable by
imprisonment in the state prison for two, four, or six years.
(d) Arson of property is a felony punishable by imprisonment in
the state prison for 16 months, two, or three years. For purposes of
this paragraph, arson of property does not include one burning or
causing to be burned his or her own personal property unless there is
an intent to defraud or there is injury to another person or another
person's structure, forest land, or property.
(e) In the case of any person convicted of violating this section
while confined in a state prison, prison road camp, prison forestry
camp, or other prison camp or prison farm, or while confined in a
county jail while serving a term of imprisonment for a felony or
misdemeanor conviction, any sentence imposed shall be consecutive to
the sentence for which the person was then confined.

It further defines in Section 450(e) "Maliciously" imports a wish to vex, defraud, annoy, or injure another person, or an intent to do a wrongful act, established either by proof or presumption of law.

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So it can be inferred that, if the flag belonged to "another person" it would in fact be arson. HOWEVER, if the flag was legally purchased by the person/entity burning the flag, and the fire was contained and NOT allowed to burn further surrounding property or cause bodily harm, it would not be considered arson, and when compared in unison with the 1985 Johnson vs Texas ruling stated above it could be considered Free Speech.

As is this post.

now lets rebutal or argue. good point by the way and i must say i didnt know that. but mypoint is still basically clear. so yea u can fyi me all u want but if you read the whole message it is not about flag burning. the point i was trying to make that there is a connection. Like a similie or a metaphor. I was never attempting to state that flag burning is right in any way but just for kicks why dont u do some reacherch before you bring out the punches. Arson huh, ha i think that you must burn a structure or cause bodily harm to concider it arson. Now this is all theory but lets say im out in the nevada desert and i light up a flag so i can have heat for the night is that arson assmunch.

baltimore80 Wrote:
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> lmao, last time I checked burning something has
> nothing to do with speech, its called arson.


true, arson is burning somthing.But i wonder if u read and understood the whole contex of what i said.

common sence Wrote:
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> now lets rebutal or argue. good point by the way
> and i must say i didnt know that. but mypoint is
> still basically clear. so yea u can fyi me all u
> want but if you read the whole message it is not
> about flag burning. the point i was trying to make
> that there is a connection. Like a similie or a
> metaphor. I was never attempting to state that
> flag burning is right in any way but just for
> kicks why dont u do some reacherch before you
> bring out the punches. Arson huh, ha i think that
> you must burn a structure or cause bodily harm to
> concider it arson. Now this is all theory but lets
> say im out in the nevada desert and i light up a
> flag so i can have heat for the night is that
> arson assmunch.


Assmunch? Yeah, if she's pretty, I'll munch her ass all night long.

As for your rebuttal, I'm failing to see just why you would need a rebuttal to the FYI, since the FYI was in response to the following:

baltimore80 Wrote:
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> lmao, last time I checked burning something has
> nothing to do with speech, its called arson.

In your example of being in Nevada and lighting up a flag for heat, the only way you would be violating any laws with the aboved Texas/California mandates would be if you stole that flag from somebody else, then set fire to it. In which case you would be probably be charged first with theft, and then with arson. Otherwise, you'd be fine, even if you had a hidden message of protest attached to the act.

I began looking through Virginia state law to see how they define arson, and low and behold, Virginia's codes of law are written in a very complicated manner and are almost ridiculously specific to each individual piece of property that could be burned. A code for arson in a public building vs arson on private land vs that strange burning feeling in my nether regions. WAY TOO much information for the average citizen, but just enough to maintain job security for legal counselors.

In fact, the intent of my post was to strenghten the argument that ALL of the posts typed onto the servers of this site are exercises in Free Speech. To limit, censor, or delete any of these posts invalidates this site as being a Free Speech forum. Which would validate the fact that the moderators of this site are, in fact, practicing in hipocrisy.

Further proof of this would be the fact that ONE of my IP addresses have been banned from this site.

With more of them to surely be banned soon.

This site does not condone Free Speech, it limits it. And any and all moderators of this site who claim to be hiding behind the guise of Free Speech in order to justify personal information retrieved via the "Arrest/Ticket Search" button above, are guilty of aiding and abetting those who use that information to harrass and torment others.

That's hipocrisy for you.

I heard this site mentioned on D&M and have been lurking around the forums for a while, and I've seen both sides hiding behind "free speech". What you fail to consider is that with "free speech" comes the responsibility to use it in the correct manner. For example if I have Mr. Wiedemann's credit card numbers is it okay for me to post them on the internet under the guise of "free speech"? At what point do we draw the line between "free speech" and responsible speech?

Below is a link where a reporter gives out personal information that turns out to be harmful -- what's free and what's responsible?

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-lahabra25aug25,1,5510970,full.story?coll=la-headlines-california&ctrack=1&cset=true

Dude.

You are so incredibly right, as your name states.. If I had someone's credit card numbers it would not be OK to post them somewhere. BECAUSE... that is not public information...

I will be the first to agree with you that it shouldn't have been posted but lets all understand, he only posted what was already public information.

The dude running this board is morally bankrupt.... But that is OK. This is America and he has the right to be morally bankrupt if that is what he wishes. If I have to put up with a couple of dweebs in the process of keeping my freedoms I will gladly do so.


"Don't Tread on Me"
1st Amendment

Hey, I'm no fan of the show; I think its insipid and puerile. But I had to tip my hat to "A Fan" for the phrase "egotistical fuckstick"! Made me laugh out loud -- way to turn a phrase! :-)

I agree with much that has been said about Don, although I feel for the guy; no one should have to endure the premature death of a beloved spouse, and some of the messages that have been posted (Freda's Rotting Corpse, etc) ARE intolerably cruel.

But we live in an incredibly uncivil society, which has developed, in no small part, by the conduct of Don and people like him who constantly seek to push the envelope of propriety ever outward in order to shock and raise their ratings. If you can't be clever and witty, be outrageous.

As cruel and uncivil as he is, it is ironic that Geronimo, of all people, would not expect this, or would take exception to this childish, sophmoric type of behavior; it is his very stock in trade. If Larry King's wife had died, you can bet Geronimo would be on the air the next day, gleefully making jokes about her rotting corpse, with Mike at his side, chuckling and nodding as if every fart from Geronimo was a hilarious punchline.

Geronimo has made a living out of exactly this kind of behavior and has engendered legions of fans who have a taste for this type of cruelty. Is it any wonder that this should come back to bite him in the ass when the ox being gored is his? Hoist on his own petard, I think Shakespeare would say.

While I feel for him and his son, it is the ultimate in hypocrisy for him to condemn those who treat him as he treats others. And while I feel compassion for the man, enough with this drama on the show; if you're not ready to come back, don't come back; that would certainly be understandable. And if you are ready, and you state that the "grieving" is over, then shut the hell up about it and stop throwing yourself this daily pity party and acting wounded and walking out, etc. The comments that have been posted on this site would get very limited circulation but for Geronimo's reading them on his show in an effort to engender everyone's further sympathy for him. Don, you should recognize that you helped to create the kind of world that treats you this way, and go on treating others this way and raking in the dough.

Just my .02 cents, anyway.

You're right! Don and Mike WOULD go on the air and make jokes about Larry King's loss. You are right.

BUT would they then post Larry King's home address on their web site or announce if over the air??

I wonder...

Sounds like a legal fiasco to me.

/vent
who gives a shit. fuck don and fuck mike and fuck all their pathetic fanbase !!@!@!@!@!@!#!#@#$@$#%$#%#$%^#$^$#^$#^
/endvent

"Who gives a shit"

Victims of ID theft. Victims of digital harrassment. Victims of mail harrassment. Victims of random threats aimed at their private residence. Victims of random threats aimed at their place of business. Victims of stalkers. Victims of mail fraud. Victims of many other violations of laws and/or regulations relating to a person(s) name/address being publicized.

People worried about falling victim to any of the above.

Lawyers.

And a slew of other individuals who may or may not be listed above.

lol you think lawyers give a shit. youre hillarious

Sure, somebody has pay them for legal counsel. Aside from District assigned attorneys, their salaries aren't paid by taxes. It comes from the individuals who seek their counsel.

I can't speak with 100% accuracy, but I did hear even the moderator of this site consulted legal counsel in regards to the privacy policy and liability of personal information attained from this website.

It could be pro bono. But often, nothing is free.

One time deep in the wilderess there was a tree... A fucking tree it was called. All the men in the tribal village would visit it once a week... They'd visit it and they'd fuck it. Sometimes they'd fuck the shit out of it. Sometimes they'd fuck it really hard. It was nice on the inside, and they all fucked it. They all liked fucking the tree.

Then one day a young warrior named Joshua was fucking the tree. He was pushing his penis in and out nearing orgasmic climax state. Right when he was about to cum he heard a moaning in the tree. He climaxed! His semen shot out into the tree with a thrilling multi action pump shotti orgasm 9mm. Then a man opened the hidden door in the side of the fucking tree and walked out. They had all been fucking this old man's shaved asshole this whole time! Then as he walked away he farted and cum dripped down his leg. He smiled, and his eye twinkled.

THE END

This thread is the very reason that Al Gore took the initiative in creating the Internet.

somebody had to die in that crash. Thank you Freda, it could have been us.

CanMessageBoardsGetBoggedDown Wrote:
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> FYI from California
>
blah blah blah...
> surrounding property or cause bodily harm, it
> would not be considered arson, and when compared
> in unison with the 1985 Johnson vs Texas ruling
> stated above it could be considered Free Speech.
>
> As is this post.
>

take that Texas. :)


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

Piss on all of you rat bastards! I'm only posting to keep the "Don & Mike" string current. I consider myself representative of the typical, cutting-edge D&M fan, but what to talk about. Let's see, umm... who do you like more, Al Jolson or Eddie Cantor? Oh yeah, one other thing, I think indoor plumbing is just a fad. Any thoughts?

LOL THATS FUNNY TOO .. THE ARREST/TICKET SEARCH JUST SEARCHES RECORDS THAT ARE ALREADY PUBLICALLY PUBLISHED. I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW IT COULD BE POTENTIALLY HARMFUL IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM. JUST SAVING SOME GAS MONEY FOR ANY INVESTIGATOR FOR A TRIP TO THE ARCHIVES WHICH IN TURN LOWERS YOUR GAS PRICES ANYWAYS.

Jesus! And I thought I was staying current with the Jolson / Cantor references. "The Economist" is debating the morality of the "Arrest / Ticket Search" issue like anybody still cared. Old, old news, Econ Boy! Since were talking current events, I just LOVE that new crooner, Bing Crosby! I'm so glad he's touring with Paul Whiteman! Oh, some more breaking news, Econ, we're not on the Gold Standard anymore. Can you beleive it? Next thing you know, they'll start taxing our income! GET A CLUE, POINDEXTER!

HEY LOOK IT'S MY CARE CUP \_/ AND YES IT'S EMPTY SO REMOVE YOUR SELF FROM THE INTERNET THX

A day late, a dollar short, and in you come with your two cents. A "care cup"? Wow. Next time try being a bit more timely and come with something of value. In the meantime, keep working on those emoticons cheif.

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bummer

you're gay

Yo, Economist, did you hear the news? Arizona has finally been admitted to the Union. Hooray for President Taft!!

All that anger and Freda is STILL dead. Can you believe it?

Don't worry, when I get pissed off enough, the dead wives of all kinds of past and present radio DJ's come back to life as a stream of evil sex-craving zombies.

Blowing up Vinyl Vicki doesn't count as reanimation, Beavis.

Since none of these most recent, stupid ass posts, have absolutely NOTHING to do with the subject at hand - or anything else, for that matter (who the fuck is "Vinyl Vicki" anyway?), I thought I'd add my 12 cents worth - When it comes to a good, traditional lime based mortar, you're better off slaking the lime yourself if you really want the best lime putty.

Hey, Economist, you still out there. Do me a favor and remove yourself from my planet. How 'bout that, you pathetic pinhead mama's boy!

Hey, what ever happened to this thread? This was quality entertainment, all across the nation.