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Lake Accotink completely drained!!!
Posted by: the fish ()
Date: July 08, 2010 01:14PM

The lake has been completely drained to repair the dam.
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Re: Lake Accotink completely drained!!!
Posted by: the dictionary ()
Date: July 08, 2010 01:17PM

the fish Wrote:
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> The lake has been completely drained to repair the
> dam.

Maybe you need to look up the word "completely." See that liquidy stuff in your pictures? That's water. If the lake was "completely" drained, it wouldn't be there.

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Re: Lake Accotink completely drained!!!
Posted by: rich boy mang ()
Date: July 08, 2010 01:20PM

So much for going fishing there! I wonder how many illegals they found after the draining operation.

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Re: Lake Accotink completely drained!!!
Posted by: More Complete ()
Date: July 08, 2010 01:31PM

Not very deep is it?

I wish to hell people in NoVA knew the difference between a lake and a pond.

That is a pond. Same goes for Burke POND and POND Braddock. ;-p

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Re: Lake Accotink completely drained!!!
Posted by: Snapple ()
Date: July 08, 2010 01:35PM

Do they ever drain the Reston lakes? I know someone who says some folks used to take joyrides in cars, dump them in the south lakes, and run from the cops through the woods on motorbikes. This would have been about 40 years ago.

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Re: Lake Accotink completely drained!!!
Posted by: Zombie Dr ()
Date: July 08, 2010 01:53PM

That is pretty cool, I am going to have to get out there this weekend.

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Re: Lake Accotink completely drained!!!
Posted by: Johnny Walker ()
Date: July 08, 2010 01:55PM

Let it have its rest. Those kids have been running it ragged!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/08/2010 01:55PM by Johnny Walker.

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Re: Lake Accotink completely drained!!!
Posted by: boredom ()
Date: July 08, 2010 02:15PM

More Complete Wrote:
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> Not very deep is it?
>
> I wish to hell people in NoVA knew the difference
> between a lake and a pond.
>
> That is a pond. Same goes for Burke POND and POND
> Braddock. ;-p

Yourself included. First, there are a few viewpoints on the line between a body of water being a lake or a pond.

One school of thought is that if it's man-made it can, at most, be a pond.

Another, and one that appears to be more accepted is that a pond is a body of water that is shallow enough for light to penetrate to the bottom in sufficient quantities for plant life to grow in all places. A lake would be any body of water where light cannot reach the bottom in at least one location due to water depth.


So, expanding this to the above pictures, you are, in fact, incorrect in your statement that Lake Accotink is actually a pond. You can clearly see large patches of ground where no plant life is growing, thereby making this a lake.

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Re: Lake Accotink completely drained!!!
Posted by: Zombie Dr ()
Date: July 08, 2010 02:26PM

I believe the reason there is little plant life is not due to darkness from depth, but darkness from muck.

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Re: Lake Accotink completely drained!!!
Posted by: More Complete ()
Date: July 08, 2010 03:04PM

boredom Wrote:
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> More Complete Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Not very deep is it?
> >
> > I wish to hell people in NoVA knew the
> difference
> > between a lake and a pond.
> >
> > That is a pond. Same goes for Burke POND and
> POND
> > Braddock. ;-p
>
> Yourself included. First, there are a few
> viewpoints on the line between a body of water
> being a lake or a pond.
>
> One school of thought is that if it's man-made it
> can, at most, be a pond.
>
> Another, and one that appears to be more accepted
> is that a pond is a body of water that is shallow
> enough for light to penetrate to the bottom in
> sufficient quantities for plant life to grow in
> all places. A lake would be any body of water
> where light cannot reach the bottom in at least
> one location due to water depth.
>
>
> So, expanding this to the above pictures, you are,
> in fact, incorrect in your statement that Lake
> Accotink is actually a pond. You can clearly see
> large patches of ground where no plant life is
> growing, thereby making this a lake.

Nice try. It's a fucking pond.

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Re: Lake Accotink completely drained!!!
Posted by: the fish ()
Date: July 08, 2010 03:11PM

the dictionary Wrote:
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> the fish Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The lake has been completely drained to repair
> the
> > dam.
>
> Maybe you need to look up the word "completely."
> See that liquidy stuff in your pictures? That's
> water. If the lake was "completely" drained, it
> wouldn't be there.

Sorry, fish can't spell. I was just quoting the Official Fairfax County web site. Under Parks & Recreation. Would attach link to page, but fish can't do that either.

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Re: Lake Accotink completely drained!!!
Posted by: Thomas More ()
Date: July 08, 2010 04:23PM

>>the dictionary Wrote:
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the fish Wrote:
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The lake has been completely drained to repair the dam.

Maybe you need to look up the word "completely." See that liquidy stuff in your pictures? That's water. If the lake was "completely" drained, it wouldn't be there.<<

The "liquidy stuff" is Accotink Creek which runs through Lake Accotink Pond (?). All impounded water bodies in VA are artificial: all ponds, lakes etc are created by humans or beavers damming a stream.

So, the Lake/Pond is completely drain and the Creek continues to flow.

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Re: Lake Accotink completely drained!!!
Posted by: noise maker ()
Date: July 08, 2010 04:28PM

Thomas More Wrote:
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> All impounded water bodies in VA are artificial: all ponds,
> lakes etc are created by humans or beavers damming
> a stream.


Not so. Not so.

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Re: Lake Accotink completely drained!!!
Posted by: Thomas More ()
Date: July 08, 2010 04:47PM

>>boredom Wrote:
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More Complete Wrote:
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Not very deep is it?

I wish to hell people in NoVA knew the difference between a lake and a pond.

That is a pond. Same goes for Burke POND and POND Braddock. ;-p

> Yourself included. First, there are a few viewpoints on the line between a body of water being a lake or a pond.

One school of thought is that if it's man-made it can, at most, be a pond.

Another, and one that appears to be more accepted is that a pond is a body of water that is shallow enough for light to penetrate to the bottom in sufficient quantities for plant life to grow in all places. A lake would be any body of water where light cannot reach the bottom in at least one location due to water depth.

So, expanding this to the above pictures, you are, in fact, incorrect in your statement that Lake Accotink is actually a pond. You can clearly see large patches of ground where no plant life is growing, thereby making this a lake.<<<

There is no formally accepted distinction between ponds and lakes. Some use the standards mentioned above. Some use size, with 20 acres being a common dividing line.

Lake Mead is the huge artificial water body behind Boulder Dam. Walden Pond is the 60 acre naturally occurring water body that is extraordinarily deep as Thoreau found by taking soundings the year he lived on its shores.

Most dictionaries and thesauri list the words as synonyms for each other.

Someone has way too much time on their hands.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/08/2010 04:49PM by Thomas More.

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Re: Lake Accotink completely drained!!!
Posted by: Thomas More ()
Date: July 08, 2010 04:47PM

noise maker Wrote:
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> Thomas More Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > All impounded water bodies in VA are artificial:
> all ponds,
> > lakes etc are created by humans or beavers
> damming
> > a stream.
>
>
> Not so. Not so.

TROLL

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Re: Lake Accotink completely drained!!!
Posted by: More Complete ()
Date: July 08, 2010 04:57PM

Thomas More Wrote:
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> Most dictionaries and thesauri list the words as
> synonyms for each other.
>
> Someone has way too much time on their hands.

It's a pond! ;-p

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Re: Lake Accotink completely drained!!!
Posted by: Johnny Walker ()
Date: July 08, 2010 04:58PM

This is ridiculous. It's a loch you morons.

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Re: Lake Accotink completely drained!!!
Posted by: Digger ()
Date: July 09, 2010 01:07AM

Imagine how much money they could have saved on the two-year dredging operation that finished in 2009 if they had thought to drain the lake then.

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Re: Lake Accotink completely drained!!!
Posted by: geologist ()
Date: July 09, 2010 01:10AM

Thomas More Wrote:
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> noise maker Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Thomas More Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > All impounded water bodies in VA are
> artificial:
> > all ponds,
> > > lakes etc are created by humans or beavers
> > damming
> > > a stream.
> >
> >
> > Not so. Not so.
>
> TROLL

Reaally? Virginia has no non-artificial lakes? Just cause someone calls you out on a fact does not make them a troll. You are wrong and need to own that fact.

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Re: Lake Accotink completely drained!!!
Posted by: Thomas More ()
Date: July 09, 2010 08:07AM

geologist Wrote:
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> Thomas More Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > noise maker Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Thomas More Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > All impounded water bodies in VA are
> > artificial:
> > > all ponds,
> > > > lakes etc are created by humans or beavers
> > > damming
> > > > a stream.
> > >
> > >
> > > Not so. Not so.
> >
> > TROLL
>
> Reaally? Virginia has no non-artificial lakes?
> Just cause someone calls you out on a fact does
> not make them a troll. You are wrong and need to
> own that fact.


Name ten natural ponds or lakes in Va. Otherwise, you're a troll too.

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Re: Lake Accotink completely drained!!!
Posted by: PeaceMaker ()
Date: July 09, 2010 08:31AM

Why not let it be.....

Lake or Pond, does it matter?

I hope they can fix the dam soon and let others enjoy the park again.

One thing is, can they make the water more clear or clean the bottom of the lake?
I hate it if I can't see too well.

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Re: Lake Accotink completely drained!!!
Posted by: Gonads & Strife ()
Date: July 09, 2010 08:40AM

Question. Is this a god dam?

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Re: Lake Accotink completely drained!!!
Posted by: Ponder this ()
Date: July 09, 2010 09:02AM

Thomas More Wrote:
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> geologist Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Thomas More Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > noise maker Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Thomas More Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > All impounded water bodies in VA are
> > > artificial:
> > > > all ponds,
> > > > > lakes etc are created by humans or
> beavers
> > > > damming
> > > > > a stream.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Not so. Not so.
> > >
> > > TROLL
> >
> > Reaally? Virginia has no non-artificial lakes?
> > Just cause someone calls you out on a fact does
> > not make them a troll. You are wrong and need
> to
> > own that fact.
>
>
> Name ten natural ponds or lakes in Va. Otherwise,
> you're a troll too.


LOL. Now you require TEN natural lakes or ponds?!?! WTF? One named natural lake would refute your claim outright as you clearly stated, "All impounded water bodies in VA are artificial: all ponds, lakes etc are created by humans or beavers damming a stream." The term "all" implies none exist. On that fact you are simply wrong.

Mountain lake.

Lake Drummond.

Grafton Ponds.

Dozens of unnamed coastal plain ponds.

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Re: Lake Accotink completely drained!!!
Posted by: Thomas More ()
Date: July 09, 2010 11:45PM

Ponder this Wrote:
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> "All impounded water bodies in VA are artificial:
> all ponds, lakes etc are created by humans or
> beavers damming a stream." The term "all" implies
> none exist. On that fact you are simply wrong.
>
>
> Mountain lake.
>
> Lake Drummond.
>
> Grafton Ponds.
>
> Dozens of unnamed coastal plain ponds.


Congratulations, only Mountain Lake is naturally occurring. The result of a land slide.

The others have embankments created by man or beavers.

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Re: Lake Accotink completely drained!!!
Posted by: ThePackLeader ()
Date: July 10, 2010 12:01AM

More Complete Wrote:
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> Not very deep is it?
>
> I wish to hell people in NoVA knew the difference
> between a lake and a pond.
>
> That is a pond. Same goes for Burke POND and POND
> Braddock. ;-p


Pond vs. Lake is all subjective. A pond is most likely a small watering hole with lily pads and surface algae (It can be everything from a garden fixture with gold fish, to an oasis for livestock), whereas a lake is large enough to develop some chop in storms. Depth doesn't have jack to do with it.

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"And if any women or children get their legs torn off, or faces caved in, well, it's tough shit for them." -2LT. Bert Stiles, 505th, 339th (On Berlin Bombardier Mission, 1944).

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Re: Lake Accotink completely drained!!!
Posted by: ThePackLeader ()
Date: July 10, 2010 12:07AM

PeaceMaker Wrote:
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> Why not let it be.....
>
> Lake or Pond, does it matter?
>
> I hope they can fix the dam soon and let others
> enjoy the park again.
>
> One thing is, can they make the water more clear
> or clean the bottom of the lake?
> I hate it if I can't see too well.

That all depends upon algae growth, depth, circulation, headwater source (If applicable), and bottom material.

All of the lakes I've seen around here are murky, whereas the natural mountain lake in UpState NY where my friends live, is in fact crystal clear (Even though it goes down to a depth of 40+ feet). The difference, is that most of the lakes in Reston, VA are man-made, and therefore the bottom construct is one of mud, and weeds. The natural mountain lakes on the other hand, often have rocky bottoms (There is sand in parts, but that is simply ground down rock/minerals).

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"And if any women or children get their legs torn off, or faces caved in, well, it's tough shit for them." -2LT. Bert Stiles, 505th, 339th (On Berlin Bombardier Mission, 1944).

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Re: Lake Accotink completely drained!!!
Posted by: cityplanner ()
Date: July 10, 2010 12:28AM

All lakes / ponds in Fairfax County are man made from dammed steams.

NOT all lakes / ponds in virginia are man made or beaver made. There are plenty of natural lakes / ponds in virginia.

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Re: Lake Accotink completely drained!!!
Posted by: Thomas More ()
Date: July 10, 2010 12:53AM

cityplanner Wrote:
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> All lakes / ponds in Fairfax County are man made
> from dammed steams.
>
> NOT all lakes / ponds in virginia are man made or
> beaver made. There are plenty of natural lakes /
> ponds in virginia.

No, there is only one freshwater natural pond/lake in Va: Mountain Lake.

Some claim Lake Drummond is natural. Others claim it is the result of burning of the peat in the great Dismal Swamp by Native Americans.

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Re: Lake Accotink completely drained!!!
Posted by: cityplanner ()
Date: July 10, 2010 01:01AM

Thomas More Wrote:
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> cityplanner Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------

> >
> > NOT all lakes / ponds in virginia are man made
> or
> > beaver made. There are plenty of natural lakes
>
> > ponds in virginia.
>
> No, there is only one freshwater natural pond/lake
> in Va: Mountain Lake.
>


ookk

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Re: Lake Accotink completely drained!!!
Posted by: G ()
Date: July 10, 2010 01:11AM

even Lake Drummond has a lock on it that maintains the water level, otherwise it would partially drain out into the feeder ditch and canal.

Mountain Lake (where they filmed "Dirty Dancing") was actually empty last year but seems to have refilled this spring. It has a crevice in the bottom and sometimes drains out the bottom of the mountain, there's a cascade on the west side that probably comes from water leaking out of the lake.

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Re: Lake Accotink completely drained!!!
Posted by: cooter ()
Date: July 10, 2010 02:21PM

Mountain Lake is in Giles County. When this lake was empty last year, the body of a homicide victim from the 1930s was discovered.

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Re: Lake Accotink completely drained!!!
Posted by: The Fish ()
Date: July 10, 2010 06:04PM

Johnny Walker Wrote:
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> This is ridiculous. It's a loch you morons.

You are right! Look it's the loch ness monster Nessie
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Re: Lake Accotink completely drained!!!
Posted by: iDoodle ()
Date: July 10, 2010 10:47PM


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Re: Lake Accotink completely drained!!!
Posted by: FringeParent ()
Date: July 11, 2010 05:41AM

HEY -
Isn't this the new site for Darth Tistadt new elementary school?

It'll be fine - there's no water there...no asbestos either.

Kathy, Stu & Liz will love it - it's perfect.

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Re: Lake Accotink completely drained!!!
Posted by: GMU Hokie ()
Date: July 11, 2010 11:45AM

Great shot at someone who deserves many like it.




FringeParent Wrote:
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> HEY -
> Isn't this the new site for Darth Tistadt new
> elementary school?
>
> It'll be fine - there's no water there...no
> asbestos either.
>
> Kathy, Stu & Liz will love it - it's perfect.

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Re: Lake Accotink completely drained!!!
Posted by: G ()
Date: July 11, 2010 09:41PM

cooter Wrote:
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> Mountain Lake is in Giles County. When this lake
> was empty last year, the body of a homicide victim
> from the 1930s was discovered.


pretty interesting story:
http://www.roanoke.com/news/nrv/wb/181168

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Re: Lake Accotink completely drained!!!
Posted by: More Complete ()
Date: July 12, 2010 12:47PM

ThePackLeader Wrote:
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>Depth doesn't have jack to do with it.

Never said that it did. Just that it isn't very deep. ;-p

Well that and that it's a pond. ;-p

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Re: Lake Accotink completely drained!!!
Posted by: ponder this ()
Date: July 12, 2010 01:01PM

Thomas More Wrote:
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> Ponder this Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > "All impounded water bodies in VA are
> artificial:
> > all ponds, lakes etc are created by humans or
> > beavers damming a stream." The term "all"
> implies
> > none exist. On that fact you are simply wrong.
>
> >
> >
> > Mountain lake.
> >
> > Lake Drummond.
> >
> > Grafton Ponds.
> >
> > Dozens of unnamed coastal plain ponds.
>
>
> Congratulations, only Mountain Lake is naturally
> occurring. The result of a land slide.
>
> The others have embankments created by man or
> beavers.

Really? Grafton ponds formed by man or beaver? Really?

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Re: Lake Accotink completely drained!!!
Posted by: Thomas More ()
Date: July 12, 2010 08:18PM

ponder this Wrote:
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> Thomas More Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Ponder this Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > "All impounded water bodies in VA are
> > artificial:
> > > all ponds, lakes etc are created by humans or
> > > beavers damming a stream." The term "all"
> > implies
> > > none exist. On that fact you are simply
> wrong.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Mountain lake.
> > >
> > > Lake Drummond.
> > >
> > > Grafton Ponds.
> > >
> > > Dozens of unnamed coastal plain ponds.
> >
> >
> > Congratulations, only Mountain Lake is
> naturally
> > occurring. The result of a land slide.
> >
> > The others have embankments created by man or
> > beavers.
>
> Really? Grafton ponds formed by man or beaver?
> Really?


grafton ponds not freshwater

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Re: Lake Accotink completely drained!!!
Posted by: Geologist ()
Date: July 12, 2010 10:03PM

ThePackLeader Wrote:
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> PeaceMaker Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Why not let it be.....
> >
> > Lake or Pond, does it matter?
> >
> > I hope they can fix the dam soon and let others
> > enjoy the park again.
> >
> > One thing is, can they make the water more
> clear
> > or clean the bottom of the lake?
> > I hate it if I can't see too well.
>
> That all depends upon algae growth, depth,
> circulation, headwater source (If applicable), and
> bottom material.
>
> All of the lakes I've seen around here are murky,
> whereas the natural mountain lake in UpState NY
> where my friends live, is in fact crystal clear
> (Even though it goes down to a depth of 40+ feet).
> The difference, is that most of the lakes in
> Reston, VA are man-made, and therefore the bottom
> construct is one of mud, and weeds. The natural
> mountain lakes on the other hand, often have rocky
> bottoms (There is sand in parts, but that is
> simply ground down rock/minerals).


the "murkyness" of a pond/lake has nothing to do with it being natural or artificial, it has to do with the sediment source. accotink is draining the coastal plains, which happens to have a very silty soil horizon. Upstate NY has a very thick soil profile, but a lot of it is glacial till, which doesn't create as much mud. Plus, it flocculates much better than silt.

Mountain Lake is one of two naturally occurring lakes in the state. I can't remember the other one, but it's down by danville. There are also tons of naturally occurring oxbow "lakes" in the state, but since we don't have really sizable rivers in this area, they're not big enough to be considered lakes, much less ponds.

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Re: Lake Accotink completely drained!!!
Posted by: Thomas More ()
Date: July 13, 2010 01:31AM

Geologist Wrote:
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> Mountain Lake is one of two naturally occurring lakes in the state. I can't remember the other one, but it's down by danville. There are also tons of naturally occurring oxbow "lakes" in the state, but since we don't have really sizable rivers in this area, they're not big enough to be considered lakes, much less ponds.<

Some folks claim that Lake Drummond is the other natural freshwater lake in Va.

However, others claim it was created by Native Americans burning the peat of the Great Dismal Swamp. Without the locks controlling the outflow from Lake Drummond, it would soon empty, thus, it is an articial impoundment.

Very curious about oxbows in Va, Any examples to which you can point?

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Re: Lake Accotink completely drained!!!
Posted by: Jjjjjjjj ()
Date: August 08, 2012 01:58AM

Drained it to fix the dam? How about how dirty that pond, aka lake, aka river is...smh

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Re: Lake Accotink completely drained!!!
Posted by: wut ()
Date: August 08, 2012 02:34AM

you realize this is from 2 years ago right...

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Re: Lake Accotink completely drained!!!
Posted by: fishin like that ()
Date: August 08, 2012 08:17AM

Does anyone know if the draining of the lake-pond two years ago had any negative impact on the fishing?

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Re: Lake Accotink completely drained!!!
Posted by: the fish ()
Date: August 08, 2012 08:41PM

just Ask the fish.
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Re: Lake Accotink completely drained!!!
Posted by: Stumpy ()
Date: August 08, 2012 09:39PM

fishin like that Wrote:
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> Does anyone know if the draining of the lake-pond
> two years ago had any negative impact on the
> fishing?


There were no fish there to begin with so no.

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Re: Lake Accotink completely drained!!!
Posted by: Dredge ()
Date: August 09, 2012 03:03PM

I remember when they dredged that thing like 7 years ago, looks like it needs to be done again.

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Re: Lake Accotink completely drained!!!
Posted by: The Final Word ()
Date: August 15, 2012 04:33AM

Actually there are alot of fish in that Lake and there always have been.

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Re: Lake Accotink completely drained!!!
Posted by: SFPsychoDane ()
Date: September 17, 2012 09:49PM

I wonder if the car is still there in the mud . . . on the north side . . near the Hatteras Lane entrance . . . It used to be visible when there was low water in the late 70's . . it looked like a junker from a demolition derby . .

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