I wonder whether Coon Man is intentionally creating a legacy of boarded up storefronts, abandoned properties, empty office buildings and the destruction of the advances that Virginia has made in its education system? His non existent plan to open up Virginia's economy will destroy its reputation as a business-friendly state as other states acquire the businesses that remain economically viable after being throttled by his senseless policies.

Keep in mind that the mortality rate has been the one statistic that has remained the static throughout this public health crisis. The mortality rate of anyone under the age of 50 is almost nonexistent while the elderly and vulnerable segments of the population face a high mortality rate that should be addressed. As antibody tests progress, the mortality rate for everyone will undoubtedly decrease as well.

The simple plan to put Virginia back to work is to provide early retirement plans for people over 50, maintain social distancing and require face masks and gloves in public while putting everyone else back to work by opening up businesses and restaurants using sensible and safe work rules.

It is that simple, but Coon Man cannot get past late term abortions and idiotic rules that do not apply to a state as geographically and density diverse as Virginia. For the education at all cost advocates, it is also extremely difficult to finance the education system with a tax base that has totally collapsed due to the lack of economic activity.

Gov Northam is such a positive ambassador for blackface!

Even in China, he’s like the “David Hasselhoff of blackface “
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He is positioning himself for U.S. Senate or House

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he is delusional

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Sadly, you are wrong. VA has joined the other blue states in electing anyone with a (D) next to their name. If he runs, he'll win. If Jesus ran in VA with a (R) next to His name, He'd lose. VA is lost.

Hey OP
Love it or get the fuck out

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types the libfag who complains about Trump on this forum 24/7. Nah bro, I'm gonna suck everything I can out of this state, continue to dump my used oil in the creek behind my house, let my kids go to UVA with instate tuition and then, when I retire, get the fuck out of here and give absolutely nothing back to Ol' Virginny. That's what I'll do instead douche. But thanks for your shitty suggestion.

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> Sadly, you are wrong. VA has joined the other
> blue states in electing anyone with a (D) next to
> their name. If he runs, he'll win. If Jesus ran
> in VA with a (R) next to His name, He'd lose. VA
> is lost.

Throughout history there have been watershed moments and this could be one. If the antibody tests come back with a determination that a large portion of the population has had the virus with few or no effects and the resulting death rate is comparable to the annual flu, the shutdown of the economy until the middle of June will have a devastating effect upon the economy that will take decades to recover---much like General William Tecumseh Sherman burning the city of Atlanta. Needlessly shutting down an economy is political terrorism, particularly when done as a partisan weapon.

What did Bill Clinton say? It is the economy stupid!

The GOP in VA doesn't put up any candidates. It's bizarre. Trump lost VA last time by 6 points. It would be hard to win here, but not impossible. Warner only won last time by 5000 votes and that was against chinless Gillespie, a bad candidate.

Put Mark Obershain up against him. He would have a decent chance if the GOP can pin the Virginia economy on coonman refusing to open back up when NC, KY and WV all are open and thriving.

Can't win if you don't play.

virginia lotto sez Wrote:
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> The GOP in VA doesn't put up any candidates. It's
> bizarre. Trump lost VA last time by 6 points. It
> would be hard to win here, but not impossible.
> Warner only won last time by 5000 votes and that
> was against chinless Gillespie, a bad candidate.
>
> Put Mark Obershain up against him. He would have
> a decent chance if the GOP can pin the Virginia
> economy on coonman refusing to open back up when
> NC, KY and WV all are open and thriving.
>
> Can't win if you don't play.


Cannot argue with you on that one! Nominating a Democrat to run against a real liberal is a losing strategy! As for Warner, how did he get rich? He is living proof that you can be dumb as a brick and still become filthy stinking rich!

He will take a House seat for a few terms while waiting for a Senate seat to open up.

You are bitching OP about the Gov putting the lives of others before your economic wellbeing. If you think lives are less important then here's an offer for you. You and 1500 people aged between 20 and 40 agree to be immediately executed in return for the immediate lifting of all governmentally imposed restrictions on businesses and educational institutions. Your deaths will be to atone for the additional deaths that will result to others from the lifting of those restrictions. Seems like a fair trade.

Lives are cheap when they are other people's lives. They are less expensive when its a lottery with the statistics stacked in your favor. Its another thing when it is your life that is likely to be on the line.

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> You are bitching OP about the Gov putting the
> lives of others before your economic wellbeing.
> If you think lives are less important then here's
> an offer for you. You and 1500 people aged
> between 20 and 40 agree to be immediately executed
> in return for the immediate lifting of all
> governmentally imposed restrictions on businesses
> and educational institutions. Your deaths will be
> to atone for the additional deaths that will
> result to others from the lifting of those
> restrictions. Seems like a fair trade.
>
> Lives are cheap when they are other people's
> lives. They are less expensive when its a lottery
> with the statistics stacked in your favor. Its
> another thing when it is your life that is likely
> to be on the line.


Since car accidents kill tens of thousands every year, let's ban those.
Since alcohol kills hundreds of thousands every year, let ban that.
Since hospitals kill almost a million every year, let's ban those.
Since bathtubs kill almost 1000 every year, let's ban those.
Since....

See how stupid it is to destroy an entire economy because someone might die? No? Well, that's why you're a retard.

WWIOD Wrote:
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> You are bitching OP about the Gov putting the
> lives of others before your economic wellbeing.
> If you think lives are less important then here's
> an offer for you. You and 1500 people aged
> between 20 and 40 agree to be immediately executed
> in return for the immediate lifting of all
> governmentally imposed restrictions on businesses
> and educational institutions. Your deaths will be
> to atone for the additional deaths that will
> result to others from the lifting of those
> restrictions. Seems like a fair trade.
>
> Lives are cheap when they are other people's
> lives. They are less expensive when its a lottery
> with the statistics stacked in your favor. Its
> another thing when it is your life that is likely
> to be on the line.

Your ignorance is only exceeded by your inability to read! Here are the mortality rates which I prefaced with my statement. As a result, you completely missed the point of the message. I am also considered a vulnerable individual so I am one at greatest risk. Here is a simple version for the simple minded people among us.

Keep the elderly and vulnerable people at home in quarantine. Take all necessary preventative measures. Offer early retirement to people that feel vulnerable and do not want to expose themselves to the virus. Turn the world over to the younger generation where they can form the world that they want to live in the future. Their risk is minimal and not much more than the annual flu.

40-49 years old
0.4%

30-39 years old
0.2%

20-29 years old
0.2%

10-19 years old
0.2%

People over the age of 50 make up roughly a third of the population of the United States. A large number of them work. A large number of those need to work in order to provide for their basic needs. A large number of those need to work in order to provide for the support of others, including a large number of much younger people. In other words they are in the same position economically as people under the age of 50. Just because a person is over 50 does not mean they are at risk. Many people over the age of 50 are in almost as good health as the average person who is in their 40s or 30s. So what you are proposing is a system under which a person who is relatively healthy and who needs to work would not be permitted to do so because of his age. A guy who is 55 and needs to work in order to pay his mortgage, put food on his family's plate and pay his child support should have just as much right to do so as a guy who is 40, or 35.

Next up. At risk people are not just at risk by going out in the world and interacting with people who may be exposed to the corona virus. They are also at risk from other people going out in the world, interacting with people who may be exposed to the corona virus and then bringing it back to at risk people. With the economy slowed down there is less risk of this happening because people are interacting less. Open the economy back up to a large segment of the population and it means much more opportunities for this to happen.

Also many working Americans relied on older and at risk people to provide child care so they could work. Quite often it is the only economically viable alternative. Open up the economy and open up the schools and even if these older or at risk people stay at home their exposure will go way up.

Then people are people. If we start permitting some people to work or engage in activities then others who shouldn't are going to try to do so. That doesn't just mean at risk people bending or breaking the rules. It also means infected people bending and breaking the rules.

So I stand behind what I said.

Since Northam shut things down a great many businesses have gotten very creative in figuring out how they can continue to function but in a healthier way. Restaurants have shifted to an emphasis on carry out or delivered meals. Other retail operations have gone to online sales with delivery or pick up. Businesses have shifted to having their employees work from home. What is needed isn't that we allow people to go back to the way they used to work. Rather what is needed is that we allow more businesses to be creative in figuring out how they can function without putting their employees, patrons and those who interact with them at risk.

Your proposal is an alternative but Northam has proposed nothing but shut everything down until June 10 or so upon which the restaurants will be gone and there will be a of a string of retail bankruptcies that will bring down city centers. malls, REITS and the commercial tax base in general. Northam has proposed nothing but a one size fits all for a state with areas where the per square mile basis the deer outnumber people. Northam is inflexible, partisan and a moron that has an inferiority complex because he was a closet racist as a teenager and was tagged with an abhorrent nickname of Coon Man which no reasonable person would want.

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> People over the age of 50 make up roughly a third
> of the population of the United States. A large
> number of them work. A large number of those need
> to work in order to provide for their basic needs.
> A large number of those need to work in order to
> provide for the support of others, including a
> large number of much younger people. In other
> words they are in the same position economically
> as people under the age of 50. Just because a
> person is over 50 does not mean they are at risk.
> Many people over the age of 50 are in almost as
> good health as the average person who is in their
> 40s or 30s. So what you are proposing is a system
> under which a person who is relatively healthy and
> who needs to work would not be permitted to do so
> because of his age. A guy who is 55 and needs to
> work in order to pay his mortgage, put food on his
> family's plate and pay his child support should
> have just as much right to do so as a guy who is
> 40, or 35.
>
> Next up. At risk people are not just at risk by
> going out in the world and interacting with people
> who may be exposed to the corona virus. They are
> also at risk from other people going out in the
> world, interacting with people who may be exposed
> to the corona virus and then bringing it back to
> at risk people. With the economy slowed down
> there is less risk of this happening because
> people are interacting less. Open the economy
> back up to a large segment of the population and
> it means much more opportunities for this to
> happen.
>
> Also many working Americans relied on older and at
> risk people to provide child care so they could
> work. Quite often it is the only economically
> viable alternative. Open up the economy and open
> up the schools and even if these older or at risk
> people stay at home their exposure will go way
> up.
>
> Then people are people. If we start permitting
> some people to work or engage in activities then
> others who shouldn't are going to try to do so.
> That doesn't just mean at risk people bending or
> breaking the rules. It also means infected people
> bending and breaking the rules.
>
> So I stand behind what I said.
>
> Since Northam shut things down a great many
> businesses have gotten very creative in figuring
> out how they can continue to function but in a
> healthier way. Restaurants have shifted to an
> emphasis on carry out or delivered meals. Other
> retail operations have gone to online sales with
> delivery or pick up. Businesses have shifted to
> having their employees work from home. What is
> needed isn't that we allow people to go back to
> the way they used to work. Rather what is needed
> is that we allow more businesses to be creative in
> figuring out how they can function without putting
> their employees, patrons and those who interact
> with them at risk.

I do believe that a previous poster had you pegged well. The fact of life is that there is risk in life and if you bother to leave your mommy's basement you will discover that you must take chances every single day and it is never guaranteed that you will wake up tomorrow morning to live another day.

Did not argue that we shouldn't change the status quo. Just said we shouldn't go to business as before with the exception of those over 50 or are at risk as you advocate.

You complain about Northam pursuing an agenda that cavalierly destroys the economy. Yet you are arguing for a different agenda while cavalierly dismissing that your agenda will kill people. Now is the time to adapt. In a few minutes I will leave my office and drive to a restaurant where the owner will hand me my meals at the curb side. When I get home I will assemble a salad using ingredients that were purchased online.

WWIOD Wrote:
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> Did not argue that we shouldn't change the status
> quo. Just said we shouldn't go to business as
> before with the exception of those over 50 or are
> at risk as you advocate.
>
> You complain about Northam pursuing an agenda that
> cavalierly destroys the economy. Yet you are
> arguing for a different agenda while cavalierly
> dismissing that your agenda will kill people. Now
> is the time to adapt. In a few minutes I will
> leave my office and drive to a restaurant where
> the owner will hand me my meals at the curb side.
> When I get home I will assemble a salad using
> ingredients that were purchased online.


I don't think that your salad is going to keep a restaurant in business. Talk to me on June 10 when that business has closed its doors. In the meantime, any plan will result in deaths. As I indicated, a normal flu season kills as many people as what the coronavirus. Also, if you eliminate New York and New Jersey where the Mayor told the residents as late as March 27 to go to the movies, there have been about half as many deaths because of the coronavirus as the incidence of deaths during a typical flu season.



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> The GOP in VA doesn't put up any candidates. It's
> bizarre. Trump lost VA last time by 6 points. It
> would be hard to win here, but not impossible.
> Warner only won last time by 5000 votes and that
> was against chinless Gillespie, a bad candidate.
>
> Put Mark Obershain up against him. He would have
> a decent chance if the GOP can pin the Virginia
> economy on coonman refusing to open back up when
> NC, KY and WV all are open and thriving.
>
> Can't win if you don't play.

The VA GOP is its own worst enemy. Instead of nominating someone who could give Kaine a run for his money, the voters selected Corey Stewart, because of his right-wing identity politics pandering.

For governor, Gillespie again? Seriously, and I bet someone will float him for 2022. The guy never won an election. Why the hell would you support him!?

All you stupid fucks protesting to get your "freedom" back, take note. You might want to listen to some doctors and scientists, but unlike the orange felch-gargling blundercunt, THEY use words YOU don't understand instead of HIM using words HE doesn't understand.

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“A society that will give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety will lose both, and deserve neither.” AMERICANS YOU BETTER WAKE UP, YOUR LIBERTIES ARE BEING TAKEN AWAY..VIOLENT CRIMINALS/ILLEGAL ALIENS ARE BEING RELEASED ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND PROTECTED.. BUT AMERICANS ARE BEING LOCKED DOWN, FINED, INTIMIDATED, OR ARRESTED FOR GOING OUTSIDE OR NOT WEARING A MASK BY LEFT WING AUTHORITARIANS...THAT'S HOW AFRAID AMERICANS HAVE BECOME OF BEING CALLED RACISTS OR NOT OBEYING POLITICAL CORRECTNESS THESE DAYS, THEY WOULD RATHER HAVE THERE FREEDOMS TAKEN AWAY, BE INTIMIDATED, BECOME CRIME VICTIMS THEN FIGHT BACK.....AMERICANS HAVE BEEN COMPLETELY "PUSSIFIED" BY LIBERALISM
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self righteous left wing liberals are Basically, the "Do as i say, not as i do" crowd of wealthy elitists who have the best ideas on how regular Janes and Joes can sacrifice their comforts and conveniences to help alleviate the sufferings and ills of the world while they dismiss themselves from the very things they demand of the public. For example...They'll tell us to ride bikes or use public transportation to get to work to conserve energy while they get taxied around in limos and private jets. They'll tell us to use solar powered energy in our homes and air dry our laundry while they live in huge mansions that use more electricity in one month than the average household uses a year. They'll do "sit ins" on a construction site to stop the building of shopping malls or condominiums to "preserve the land" while they own several acres of land for their own personal use. They tend to be strong advocates for gun control or in some extreme cases gun banning. But see nothing wrong with the armed bodyguards they employ for their own personal protection. They tend to take a soft on crime stance and stand up for and protect illegal Aliens, Refugees, Rapists, Pedophiles, Murderers, Terrorists, Ms-13 Gangs, Drug Cartels, over their Citizens, while they live in gated communities with round the clock surveillance that isn't within 50 miles of the nearest ghetto or any other high crime area. If his name happens to be Bono, he'll meet with world leaders to encourage them to raise our taxes to help the starving kids in Africa while hiding his millions in the Netherlands to avoid paying taxes himself. As the late comedian Richard Jeni once put it, "People who are going to change the world if they have to spend every last buck of YOUR money to do it". Your basic self righteous left wing liberal is a wealthy person who feels guilty about being wealthy but doesn't want to give up his fortune or sacrifice his conveniences. So he'll take the "pass the buck" approach by wagging his finger at the general public for not doing their share to help with the world's problems to deflect the guilt off himself. Many self righteous left wing liberals are also washed up has-been celebrities or rock stars who had their heyday in the 80's or 90's but their careers have since sputtered out and their names faded into obscurity. Since they know that today's Hollywood is extremely liberal, they'll take up some liberal cause to resurrect their dead careers and get their names back in the papers and the spotlight back on them in hopes of attracting the attention of a movie producer or record company.
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