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The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: Good Bye My Fairfax County ()
Date: November 28, 2018 10:52AM

I just saw the plans developers have. Oh well, Great Falls and Reston were nice places in their days. The nice lakes of Reston and open fields and wooded areas for horses. Great Falls with its vast open areas.

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: Buildit now ()
Date: December 01, 2018 11:18AM

It's about time to widen those roads. The rich folks in Great Falls have held it off for along time. Screw them Its time to share the burden

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: Reston Pkwy ext yes ()
Date: December 01, 2018 11:28AM

Will relieve a lot of the congestion at 193 and 7. They will have to have a third lane (minimum) and a left turn signal from 193 west on to the new Reston Parkway extension.


Also Reston Ave should extend to 193. Build up that stupid triangle corner.




Frankly they need some flyover ramps like Loudoun did for Belmont Ridge etc. on 7.

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: 193 widening NO ()
Date: December 01, 2018 11:35AM

While it's a really busy route, it will cost lots to widen this. Then the rich fucks who live on 193 will see their properties depreciate, less tax revenue. All to save some rich pricks 10 minutes each way commuting?

I think the better idea is to strength the connecting roads. Get rid of that quaint and antiquated little one lane bridge on Springvale. Nobody likes that anymore.

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: A better way ()
Date: December 01, 2018 02:58PM

Transurban has been involved in solving the traffic issues around the DMV for several years, and they have plans to help the commuters avoid traffic nightmares.

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: Traffic Nightmares Coming ()
Date: December 21, 2018 05:40PM

A better way Wrote:
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> Transurban has been involved in solving the
> traffic issues around the DMV for several years,
> and they have plans to help the commuters avoid
> traffic nightmares.

Apparently, you haven't been on any Fairfax county roads around rush hour. They are traffic nightmares now and traffic will be doubled over the next 5 years with exploding 10 story building development.

Let me suggest some drives(well parking lots) for you to enjoy:

1) FFX county parkway 5pm-7:30pm
2) Reston Parkway 5pm-7:30pm start by exiting from the Reston Town Center
3) Vienna 123 5pm-7:30pm
4) Tysons Corner, just about any hour now
5) 193 outbound off 495 5pm-7:30pm
6) Vienna Lawyer Rd into Reston 5pm-7:30pm
7) Rt50, just about any time, but best at Chantilly to South Riding between 5pm-7:30pm
8) Hunter Mill Rd from Reston Toward Lake Fairfax 5pm-7:30pm
9) Toll Road 5pm-7:30pm

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: K7PWH ()
Date: December 21, 2018 06:46PM

TransUrban has only one thing they are interested in, $$$$$.

They prefer traffic to be bad so they can have more people pay for the Toll/Hot lanes.

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: Aviatornot ()
Date: December 21, 2018 09:20PM

The 10 story buildings don’t seem so bad compared to the 30 and 40 story buildings they have planned for Reston.

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: NTLNW ()
Date: December 24, 2018 08:12PM

A better way Wrote:
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> Transurban has been involved in solving the
> traffic issues around the DMV for several years,
> and they have plans to help the commuters avoid
> traffic nightmares.


There are traffic issues around the Department of Motor Vehicles?

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: Pete Parkway ()
Date: December 24, 2018 09:15PM

NTLNW Wrote:
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> A better way Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Transurban has been involved in solving the
> > traffic issues around the DMV for several
> years,
> > and they have plans to help the commuters avoid
> > traffic nightmares.
>
>
> There are traffic issues around the Department of
> Motor Vehicles?

Actually, traffic is bad at rush hour near the Vienna Department of Motor Vehicles.

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: 193 Traffic Overload ()
Date: December 26, 2018 08:11PM

Aviatornot Wrote:
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> The 10 story buildings don’t seem so bad
> compared to the 30 and 40 story buildings they
> have planned for Reston.

Yes, and those traffic jams from Reston have to go thru Great Falls on 193 and the new Reston Parkway Great Falls extenion.

Not to mention the new traffic from the planned "Great Falls Town Center" 10 story buildings.

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: Fairfax Lifer ()
Date: December 27, 2018 12:18PM

193 Traffic Overload Wrote:
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> Aviatornot Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The 10 story buildings don’t seem so bad
> > compared to the 30 and 40 story buildings they
> > have planned for Reston.
>
> Yes, and those traffic jams from Reston have to go
> thru Great Falls on 193 and the new Reston Parkway
> Great Falls extenion.
>
> Not to mention the new traffic from the planned
> "Great Falls Town Center" 10 story buildings.

Where are these so called "plans" located?

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: In the Know, ()
Date: January 01, 2019 08:53PM

Fairfax Lifer Wrote:
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> 193 Traffic Overload Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Aviatornot Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > The 10 story buildings don’t seem so bad
> > > compared to the 30 and 40 story buildings
> they
> > > have planned for Reston.
> >
> > Yes, and those traffic jams from Reston have to
> go
> > thru Great Falls on 193 and the new Reston
> Parkway
> > Great Falls extenion.
> >
> > Not to mention the new traffic from the planned
> > "Great Falls Town Center" 10 story buildings.
>
> Where are these so called "plans" located?

The plans exist with a select group of developers and not public knowledge yet. It's not until the board can increase the Reston density cap will be the real plans be revealed by the planning supervisors and the board. One step at a time.

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: Double taxes, Traffic Gridlock ()
Date: January 02, 2019 10:30AM

This county board and planning board is so corrupt! It's all about giving developers whatever they want so they can make a quick dime. No outlook to traffic congestion or infrastructure to support growth.

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: Gummint is good fer ya ()
Date: January 02, 2019 11:05AM

Sounds like the hill people are riled up once again. A little likker and banjo music and they fly all to pieces.

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: Peforma ()
Date: January 03, 2019 01:01PM

Gummint is good fer ya Wrote:
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> Sounds like the hill people are riled up once
> again. A little likker and banjo music and they
> fly all to pieces.

You make no sense. Now let me hear ya squeal like a pig boyeee.

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: AnthonyCumia ()
Date: January 03, 2019 11:45PM

FAKE NEWS, CUNTS!!!1!

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: Corrupt Swamp ()
Date: January 16, 2019 09:59AM

AnthonyCumia Wrote:
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> FAKE NEWS, CUNTS!!!1!

Just keep thinking it's fake news. It's going to happen and theirs nothing can be done to stop it and Great Falls Town Center. The developers and corrupt planning board have already decided it's going to happen. The Fairfax County board is rigged with yes votes for developers.

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: Economics 101 ()
Date: January 16, 2019 02:30PM

Great Falls was due for density increase.

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Date: January 16, 2019 04:20PM

I wish the rush hour gridlock on Wielhe was fake. I don’t expect it to get any better until someone dies because the trucks at station 25 can’t get out. The quality of life around here has gone down significantly in the last 20 years because of the traffic

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: Pump, Dump, Run ()
Date: January 16, 2019 06:12PM

Generally Speaking Wrote:
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> I wish the rush hour gridlock on Wielhe was fake.
> I don’t expect it to get any better until
> someone dies because the trucks at station 25
> can’t get out. The quality of life around here
> has gone down significantly in the last 20 years
> because of the traffic

It's all about developers getting in quick building 20 story buildings and running with profits. Typical pump and dump developer strategy. The developers don't care if traffic is gridlock once they runaway with the profits to Boston, etc...

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: Developer Joe ()
Date: January 16, 2019 07:31PM

First city sewer and water then zero lot line housing. Hooray no more 2 hour traffic jams on 193. Fuck you Great Falls.

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: Roads Will Need to be Built ()
Date: January 18, 2019 09:47AM

Developer Joe Wrote:
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> First city sewer and water then zero lot line
> housing. Hooray no more 2 hour traffic jams on
> 193. Fuck you Great Falls.

193 is long overdue for improvements and now that the board is going to increase traffic on 193 with density increases there is really no choice. The roads will have to be built to handle Reston traffic.

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: Succinct ()
Date: January 22, 2019 12:49PM

Voters, give Hudgins the boot. Owned by developers.

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: Developer Rigged FFX Board ()
Date: January 22, 2019 01:16PM

Succinct Wrote:
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> Voters, give Hudgins the boot. Owned by
> developers.

From I've heard she not going to run again because of the complaints Reston residents have against her and allowing the over development of Reston.

Especially since she tried to silence residents and sneak in a vote against residents wishes.

Whoever heard of representatives saying they don't to listen to residents anymore.

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: just thinking ()
Date: January 22, 2019 03:56PM

I had at one point the desire to live in great falls, solely because of the bigger lots, so I could piss off my deck and not here my neighbor fart. But those uppity pricks killed a man when they refused to cut down those barely living oak trees at the village for road improvements. It took one of those trees falling on a motorist to get those stuck up pricks to finally cut them down. But now I'm just done with this area. Traffic has gotten ridiculous with no desire to slow down the over development. Reston used to have a bowling alley, until the land owner jacked up the rent, and that lot still sits empty making exactly zero money. We used to have the carnival come to town once a year, until there was no more space avalible to put it. Reston Town Center is a joke with greedy ass Boston charging to park and driving out tenants. The traffic is damn near gridlocked at rush hour and the only solution apparently is to build more. My contract here is up in 18 months, then I'm selling for top fukin dollar cause I'm in a single family that I've realtors beating on my door for. It was a great place to grow up, back when you could sun bathe on top of the lake drains. Now it's an over congested nightmare. I'm thinking Clarksville. The place is prime with a huge lake. Should be a safe investment

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: Reality Voter ()
Date: January 23, 2019 04:10PM

just thinking Wrote:
----------------------------------Reston used to
> have a bowling alley, until the land owner jacked
> up the rent, and that lot still sits empty making
> exactly zero money. We used to have the carnival
> come to town once a year, until there was no more
> space avalible to put it. Reston Town Center is a
> joke with greedy ass Boston charging to park and
> driving out tenants. The traffic is damn near
> gridlocked at rush hour and the only solution
> apparently is to build more.


You nailed it. Build more in a smaller area so the county can get more taxes to improve services? Huh????

This is the logic of "pump and dump developers" who only have one goal... Build and sell it to some other suckers in 2 years so they can deal with the mess of not enough schools, gridlocked traffic, and no greenspaces for parks with athletic fields.

Their solution is everybody will take the bus to the grocery store and kids to the soccer practice. Ever tried to get 4 kids on a bus with all the soccer stuff? Hull groceries? Home Depot stuff on the bus or Metro?

Not mention all the bus changes one has to do just to cross Reston.

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: Sink Pisser ()
Date: January 23, 2019 06:35PM

Pump, Dump, Run Wrote:
> It's all about developers getting in quick
> building 20 story buildings and running with
> profits. Typical pump and dump developer
> strategy. The developers don't care if traffic is
> gridlock once they runaway with the profits to
> Boston, etc...

Right, blame the developers.....don't bother to look at Audrey Moore's downzoning policies. They are what got Northern Va where it is today with traffic. Period.

The same shit show liberals have been in charge forever: the traffic and taxes continue to get worse and you dummies blame the developers. Please, get a fucking clue.

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: just thinking ()
Date: January 23, 2019 06:50PM

I didn't blame the developers. I do blame the county for allowing this crap. But, the developers are at fault too for proposing all this over development. That's why my relocation is not going to be around here. You've got to go two counties over to get away from the stupidity.

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: Sink Pisser ()
Date: January 23, 2019 08:42PM

You did blame the developers, re-read what you wrote...... The wheels for this were set in motion decades ago. In fact, it all started with the riots in DC. The middle class white folks said fuck this, I'm out and moved to VA. The Supervisors stuck their heads in the sand and allowed the slow growth activists (Audrey Moore) to run the show. That is why 66 is 2 lanes inside the Beltway, it's why it took Metro 30 years to get out to the western suburbs, it's why they downzoned Fairfax County. You can't turn the clock back. Traffic was awful when I was in high school in the early 80's, you could see the problems then and nothing has been done.

Developers are trying to make a buck. They buy bulldozers (someone has to make them), they buy wood (someone has to cut it down and cut it to size), they buy steel, iron, appliances......and they employ people sometimes thousands of people and hire contract engineers, plumbers, roofers...... The people you need to have a problem with are the members of the Board of Supervisors. They put you in this spot. The developers are filling a need and people bank accounts. What are the Supervisors doing except hindering capitalism?

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: Downfall of Great Falls ()
Date: January 28, 2019 01:48PM

I blame mainly the Board of Supervisors. Second, I blame the developers who seem to be giving "special favors" to the board.

It's very simple. Build the ROAD FIRST, then let's talk about new developments.

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: AnthonyCumia ()
Date: February 06, 2019 12:32AM

Sink Pisser is right. We don't deserve anything to improve our lives.

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: Huh?? ()
Date: February 13, 2019 03:38PM

AnthonyCumia Wrote:
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> Sink Pisser is right. We don't deserve anything
> to improve our lives.

WTF?

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: Overpopulated ()
Date: February 14, 2019 09:47AM

just thinking Wrote:
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> I had at one point the desire to live in great
> falls, solely because of the bigger lots, so I
> could piss off my deck and not here my neighbor
> fart. But those uppity pricks killed a man when
> they refused to cut down those barely living oak
> trees at the village for road improvements. It
> took one of those trees falling on a motorist to
> get those stuck up pricks to finally cut them
> down. But now I'm just done with this area.
> Traffic has gotten ridiculous with no desire to
> slow down the over development. Reston used to
> have a bowling alley, until the land owner jacked
> up the rent, and that lot still sits empty making
> exactly zero money. We used to have the carnival
> come to town once a year, until there was no more
> space avalible to put it. Reston Town Center is a
> joke with greedy ass Boston charging to park and
> driving out tenants. The traffic is damn near
> gridlocked at rush hour and the only solution
> apparently is to build more. My contract here is
> up in 18 months, then I'm selling for top fukin
> dollar cause I'm in a single family that I've
> realtors beating on my door for. It was a great
> place to grow up, back when you could sun bathe on
> top of the lake drains. Now it's an over congested
> nightmare. I'm thinking Clarksville. The place is
> prime with a huge lake. Should be a safe
> investment


Reston use to be a farm. Fairfax was a forest. Alexandria was the closest shopping district; or downtown. Alexandria Hospital. Alexandria doctors. Fairfax BOS were all farmers. Reston was not the beginning of the sprawal It started a long Long time ago. The more people, the more growth.

Perhaps Fairfax needs a cap on population. Get on the waiting list if you want to move here. When someone moves out, line moves up.

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: YNOT? ()
Date: February 14, 2019 09:48AM

^ & US citizens only

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: huh. ()
Date: February 14, 2019 02:30PM

What if Towlston Road ran all the way through the woods into a 2-lane Toll Tunnel or bridge to connect McLean to Great Falls MD... it's a narrow part of the river. Could connect Towlston to MacCarthur Blvd. Make it a timed one-way. All of the execs/family vans living in that area would pay the toll, and it take a lot of otherwise cranky drivers off of the the Balls Hill area...

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: AnthonyCumia ()
Date: February 15, 2019 12:15PM

Where was a bowling alley in Reston?

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: Reston history ()
Date: February 15, 2019 12:23PM

AnthonyCumia Wrote:
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> Where was a bowling alley in Reston?


In the same parking lot as the ice rinks. The front sidewalk is still there, it's where all the mountain bikers park for the trail.

The family that owned it closed the doors when the lease was up and the land owners new lease offer was absurdly high. This was the late '80s. Today that place would be a gold mine. About once a month on Saturday night/Sunday morning, after last call and closing time a few friends were invited to stay bowl and drink until dawn, good times.

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: Local history ()
Date: February 15, 2019 12:28PM

huh. Wrote:
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> What if Towlston Road ran all the way through the
> woods into a 2-lane Toll Tunnel or bridge to
> connect McLean to Great Falls MD... it's a narrow
> part of the river. Could connect Towlston to
> MacCarthur Blvd. Make it a timed one-way. All of
> the execs/family vans living in that area would
> pay the toll, and it take a lot of otherwise
> cranky drivers off of the the Balls Hill area...


Maryland refuses to allow another bridge between the beltway and point of rocks. Virginia has been trying to talk them into a bridge at 28/7 for decades. Anything inside the beltway is too congested/difficult to acquire land for and would be unnecessary if a bridge north/west of the American Legion was built.

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: Inside Scoop ()
Date: February 20, 2019 01:55PM

Looks like the board and developers are trying to extend Reston Parkway thru Great Falls and then eventually use the Madera School property for a new bridge.

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: AnthonyCumia ()
Date: February 20, 2019 09:52PM

Reston history Wrote:
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> AnthonyCumia Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Where was a bowling alley in Reston?
>
>
> In the same parking lot as the ice rinks. The
> front sidewalk is still there, it's where all the
> mountain bikers park for the trail.
>
> The family that owned it closed the doors when the
> lease was up and the land owners new lease offer
> was absurdly high. This was the late '80s. Today
> that place would be a gold mine. About once a
> month on Saturday night/Sunday morning, after last
> call and closing time a few friends were invited
> to stay bowl and drink until dawn, good times.


Holy shit so that's what the abandoned parking lot was for. Was the building in the empty lot or was it where the skating rinks are now? I see in a 1988 aerial photo a big building.

Funny how the landlord lost the bowling alley tenant due to the rent and the site's been abandoned for decades.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/20/2019 10:25PM by AnthonyCumia.

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: Great Falls Town Center ()
Date: March 06, 2019 06:41PM

Local history Wrote:
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> huh. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > What if Towlston Road ran all the way through
> the
> > woods into a 2-lane Toll Tunnel or bridge to
> > connect McLean to Great Falls MD... it's a
> narrow
> > part of the river. Could connect Towlston to
> > MacCarthur Blvd. Make it a timed one-way. All
> of
> > the execs/family vans living in that area would
> > pay the toll, and it take a lot of otherwise
> > cranky drivers off of the the Balls Hill
> area...
>
>
> Maryland refuses to allow another bridge between
> the beltway and point of rocks. Virginia has been
> trying to talk them into a bridge at 28/7 for
> decades. Anything inside the beltway is too
> congested/difficult to acquire land for and would
> be unnecessary if a bridge north/west of the
> American Legion was built.

The bridge will be part of the Reston Parkway expansion through Great Falls. 193 is way overloaded with all the new Reston Town Center and Reston developments. I see the telephone poles have already been moved back from 193 for the widen.

Looks like the landlord at the "Great Falls Center" is slowly getting rid of tenants so he can sell off the property for the 20 story Great Falls Town Center.

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: ShitzCash ()
Date: March 06, 2019 07:06PM

Folks calling for elevated or underground roads should have an awareness of the cost difference between ground level and above or below it.
Suggesting such is realistic it just idiocy.

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: Enquiring Mind Wants to Know ()
Date: March 06, 2019 09:14PM

> The bridge will be part of the Reston Parkway
> expansion through Great Falls. 193 is way
> overloaded with all the new Reston Town Center and
> Reston developments. I see the telephone poles
> have already been moved back from 193 for the


How are they going widen Georgetown Pike with the sharp curves and the hilly terrain around Difficult Run and Swinks Mill Road areas? It's going to a very expensive undertaking.

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: ujfbp ()
Date: March 06, 2019 09:24PM

Great Falls Town Center Wrote:
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> Local history Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > huh. Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > What if Towlston Road ran all the way through
> > the
> > > woods into a 2-lane Toll Tunnel or bridge to
> > > connect McLean to Great Falls MD... it's a
> > narrow
> > > part of the river. Could connect Towlston to
> > > MacCarthur Blvd. Make it a timed one-way. All
> > of
> > > the execs/family vans living in that area
> would
> > > pay the toll, and it take a lot of otherwise
> > > cranky drivers off of the the Balls Hill
> > area...
> >
> >
> > Maryland refuses to allow another bridge
> between
> > the beltway and point of rocks. Virginia has
> been
> > trying to talk them into a bridge at 28/7 for
> > decades. Anything inside the beltway is too
> > congested/difficult to acquire land for and
> would
> > be unnecessary if a bridge north/west of the
> > American Legion was built.
>
> The bridge will be part of the Reston Parkway
> expansion through Great Falls. 193 is way
> overloaded with all the new Reston Town Center and
> Reston developments. I see the telephone poles
> have already been moved back from 193 for the
> widen.
>
> Looks like the landlord at the "Great Falls
> Center" is slowly getting rid of tenants so he can
> sell off the property for the 20 story Great Falls
> Town Center.


I must be the only one that looks at maps and google earth. Where is this Reston parkway extension going to cross the river? In the middle of the national park or the regional park???

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: Answered ()
Date: March 13, 2019 08:53PM

ujfbp Wrote:
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> Great Falls Town Center Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Local history Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > huh. Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > What if Towlston Road ran all the way
> through
> > > the
> > > > woods into a 2-lane Toll Tunnel or bridge
> to
> > > > connect McLean to Great Falls MD... it's a
> > > narrow
> > > > part of the river. Could connect Towlston
> to
> > > > MacCarthur Blvd. Make it a timed one-way.
> All
> > > of
> > > > the execs/family vans living in that area
> > would
> > > > pay the toll, and it take a lot of
> otherwise
> > > > cranky drivers off of the the Balls Hill
> > > area...
> > >
> > >
> > > Maryland refuses to allow another bridge
> > between
> > > the beltway and point of rocks. Virginia has
> > been
> > > trying to talk them into a bridge at 28/7 for
> > > decades. Anything inside the beltway is too
> > > congested/difficult to acquire land for and
> > would
> > > be unnecessary if a bridge north/west of the
> > > American Legion was built.
> >
> > The bridge will be part of the Reston Parkway
> > expansion through Great Falls. 193 is way
> > overloaded with all the new Reston Town Center
> and
> > Reston developments. I see the telephone poles
> > have already been moved back from 193 for the
> > widen.
> >
> > Looks like the landlord at the "Great Falls
> > Center" is slowly getting rid of tenants so he
> can
> > sell off the property for the 20 story Great
> Falls
> > Town Center.
>
>
> I must be the only one that looks at maps and
> google earth. Where is this Reston parkway
> extension going to cross the river? In the middle
> of the national park or the regional park???

By the Maderia School.

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: Best Option. Move to Loudoun ()
Date: March 14, 2019 03:22PM

The problem is the Fairfax county board is allowing developers to over crowd Reston roads and those cars have to go some place. Even with the widening of 193 there still need to be other roads builts to handle all the Reston Parkway traffic exiting Reston.

The only other option is extending Reston Parkway because you're not going to stop the developers from building skyscrapers in Reston. There are already planned over 10,000 more cars a day on the Reston Parkway and the parkway is already overload.

The developers and FFX board snuck in the over development by saying everybody would use the Metro but all know that a pipe dream.

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: Mostest cleverest ()
Date: March 15, 2019 08:53AM

Sounds like you can beat the system then just by using Metro. Imagine that!

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: tgyhc ()
Date: March 15, 2019 01:39PM

Good Bye My Fairfax County Wrote:
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> I just saw the plans developers have. Oh well,
> Great Falls and Reston were nice places in their
> days. The nice lakes of Reston and open fields
> and wooded areas for horses. Great Falls with its
> vast open areas.


#1 the county isn't YOURS

#2 democrats are going to use mexicans to do the labor and the objective will be to build housing for mexicans - and you know it

#3 public complaints won't mean a thing, democrats hire police and point weapons at "people who have complaints"

#4 hopefully the people offended can make them liable for running communism against their own citizens* while they are still young enough to suffer



as if they're owned, they are not - and the politicians excepting one - are not from fairfax - they are from MD, NY, NJ

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: phelpsmarc ()
Date: March 16, 2019 02:45PM

I think it'd a dumb plan. It will f up a beautiful residential area. There are plenty of other roads commuters can take. They probably want to a connection between RT 7 and 495 in Maryland which will bypass the Dulles Toll Rd. I will say that 193 is hilly and winding as hell and is fun to drive

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: Reston Traffic Gridlock ()
Date: April 08, 2019 08:37AM

phelpsmarc Wrote:
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> I think it'd a dumb plan. It will f up a
> beautiful residential area. There are plenty of
> other roads commuters can take. They probably want
> to a connection between RT 7 and 495 in Maryland
> which will bypass the Dulles Toll Rd. I will say
> that 193 is hilly and winding as hell and is fun
> to drive

The problem is the board has allowed Reston to overgrow and that traffic from Reston needs new roads to handle all cars. You're looking at over 20,000 more cars every day on the Reston parkway and those cars have to some place. That why the Reston Parkway and 193 will have be expanded.

There's no choice but connect the Reston Parkway to the land be the Maderia school and put a second bridge in. No other choice but to expand 193 to four lanes to also handle all the Reston traffic jams.

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: wrrior ()
Date: April 08, 2019 10:30AM

It all started with WWII.

Prior to WWII, Fairfax County was a leading milk producer in the State...and there was no Pentagon.

No Pentagon, and so, no real defense industry.

Farms.

Then, WWII, the Pentagon, and the Cold War.

Massive growth in Fairfax County. Industry brings residents.

Dulles Airport and the Toll Road in the early 80's...and, the high-tech industry.

That's it, folks.

No weird conspiracy or anything like that by supervisors, developers, etc...just an explosive growth brought on by WWII.

Could've just as well happened in South Carolina if "they" decided to locate the Pentagon and seat of the Federal Government there.

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: Fairfax cuunty is the new Ghetto ()
Date: April 08, 2019 11:52AM

Great Falls is due to be next big area that FFX county board allows massive redevelopment. They are already planning to revamp the sewer and roads in Great Falls. In ten years Fairfax county is going to look like DC. all grid roads and skyscrapers, and paid parking lots.

The days of single dwelling houses is over in Fairfax county.

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: Xmpk6 ()
Date: April 08, 2019 12:30PM

Fairfax cuunty is the new Ghetto Wrote:
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> Great Falls is due to be next big area that FFX
> county board allows massive redevelopment. They
> are already planning to revamp the sewer and roads
> in Great Falls. In ten years Fairfax county is
> going to look like DC. all grid roads and
> skyscrapers, and paid parking lots.
>
> The days of single dwelling houses is over in
> Fairfax county.


^everything compiled, leaves me in a state of depression. It seems the future is doomed. Is it me, or is the future really doomed?

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: Pave it all over ()
Date: April 08, 2019 12:43PM

wrrior Wrote:
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> It all started with WWII.
>
> Prior to WWII, Fairfax County was a leading milk
> producer in the State...and there was no
> Pentagon.
>
> No Pentagon, and so, no real defense industry.
>
> Farms.
>
> Then, WWII, the Pentagon, and the Cold War.
>
> Massive growth in Fairfax County. Industry brings
> residents.
>
> Dulles Airport and the Toll Road in the early
> 80's...and, the high-tech industry.
>
> That's it, folks.
>
> No weird conspiracy or anything like that by
> supervisors, developers, etc...just an explosive
> growth brought on by WWII.
>
> Could've just as well happened in South Carolina
> if "they" decided to locate the Pentagon and seat
> of the Federal Government there.


Nt that simple. At each step along the way Fairfax County had the opportunity to plan out development so that it would happen in a way that could be accommodated with minimal adverse effects. Instead the County administration made choices which favored developers and other businesses at the expense of County residents. The only solution the current leaders can come up with is more of the same.

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: Pave over the parks ()
Date: April 08, 2019 01:22PM

Pave it all over Wrote:
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>
> Nt that simple. At each step along the way
> Fairfax County had the opportunity to plan out
> development so that it would happen in a way that
> could be accommodated with minimal adverse
> effects. Instead the County administration made
> choices which favored developers and other
> businesses at the expense of County residents.
> The only solution the current leaders can come up
> with is more of the same.


Unfortunately it appears the county board and planning commission only do one... vote for more building with very little restrictions on the builders. The more people crammed into one area the better. Cram as many people into one area with the builder having to pay very in the way road improvements for the extra traffic, athletic fields and green spaces for kids and resident.

Fairfax county use to be beautiful. Now it becomes the ghetto of downtown DC.

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: Where are the New Wooded Areas ()
Date: April 09, 2019 01:30PM

Pave over the parks Wrote:
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> Pave it all over Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > Nt that simple. At each step along the way
> > Fairfax County had the opportunity to plan out
> > development so that it would happen in a way
> that
> > could be accommodated with minimal adverse
> > effects. Instead the County administration
> made
> > choices which favored developers and other
> > businesses at the expense of County residents.
> > The only solution the current leaders can come
> up
> > with is more of the same.
>
>
> Unfortunately it appears the county board and
> planning commission only do one... vote for more
> building with very little restrictions on the
> builders. The more people crammed into one area
> the better. Cram as many people into one area
> with the builder having to pay very in the way
> road improvements for the extra traffic, athletic
> fields and green spaces for kids and resident.
>
> Fairfax county use to be beautiful. Now it
> becomes the ghetto of downtown DC.

What parks?

All the planning board does is bulldoze and add 1,000,000 more cars to county roads with the fantasy solution of everybody will ride the bus to kids soccer games, grocery shopping and Home Depot.

It like the planning commission has never lived outside of a huge downtown area. I haven't seen the board build any new parklands or lakes for residents to enjoy. Just high-density eyesores.

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: Kate Coffee and Cars ()
Date: April 16, 2019 12:02PM

One of the nice parts about this is cars leaving Kates Coffee will have two lanes to race in.

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: XE9KW ()
Date: April 21, 2019 05:55PM

They have to build the pack'n'stacks at high density because (1) the New World Order has decreed that all populations must be moved into the cities to keep all the rural areas pristine in the near future. (Agenda 21); (2) The only way to pay for the metro out to the western areas of NOVA is to make travelling on the roads so expensive, well-tolled and basically onerous for everybody that everyone will HAVE to choose either the expense of the toll road(s) and metro trains in order to (a) get to work every day and (b) save their sanity. Expect that in the future all east west/north south main roads will be tolled and every acre of land now empty of developments will soon be bought out and turned into high rise hells. It is all in the future plans, folks. Pack'n'stack in the new buzzword of population control and manipulation.

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: Forget Park Land and Green Space ()
Date: April 21, 2019 10:22PM

XE9KW Wrote:
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> They have to build the pack'n'stacks at high
> density because (1) the New World Order has
> decreed that all populations must be moved into
> the cities to keep all the rural areas pristine in
> the near future. (Agenda 21); (2) The only way
> to pay for the metro out to the western areas of
> NOVA is to make travelling on the roads so
> expensive, well-tolled and basically onerous for
> everybody that everyone will HAVE to choose either
> the expense of the toll road(s) and metro trains
> in order to (a) get to work every day and (b) save
> their sanity. Expect that in the future all east
> west/north south main roads will be tolled and
> every acre of land now empty of developments will
> soon be bought out and turned into high rise
> hells. It is all in the future plans, folks.
> Pack'n'stack in the new buzzword of population
> control and manipulation.

The Fairfax County planning commission and board have lost their minds! It all about profit for developers who build, dump and run with profits before the county has to deal the nightmares.

The more people packed in an area increases government services exponentially while driving down the value of an area over time.

Destroying Reston and Great Falls is a tragedy. The worst part is the wooded and green spaces which made Fairfax County great and attractive will be gone forever.

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: Welcome to LA Traffic Gridlock ()
Date: April 25, 2019 03:16PM

Forget Park Land and Green Space Wrote:
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> XE9KW Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > They have to build the pack'n'stacks at high
> > density because (1) the New World Order has
> > decreed that all populations must be moved into
> > the cities to keep all the rural areas pristine
> in
> > the near future. (Agenda 21); (2) The only
> way
> > to pay for the metro out to the western areas
> of
> > NOVA is to make travelling on the roads so
> > expensive, well-tolled and basically onerous
> for
> > everybody that everyone will HAVE to choose
> either
> > the expense of the toll road(s) and metro
> trains
> > in order to (a) get to work every day and (b)
> save
> > their sanity. Expect that in the future all
> east
> > west/north south main roads will be tolled and
> > every acre of land now empty of developments
> will
> > soon be bought out and turned into high rise
> > hells. It is all in the future plans, folks.
> > Pack'n'stack in the new buzzword of population
> > control and manipulation.
>
> The Fairfax County planning commission and board
> have lost their minds! It all about profit for
> developers who build, dump and run with profits
> before the county has to deal the nightmares.
>
> The more people packed in an area increases
> government services exponentially while driving
> down the value of an area over time.
>
> Destroying Reston and Great Falls is a tragedy.
> The worst part is the wooded and green spaces
> which made Fairfax County great and attractive
> will be gone forever.

Amen, making Fairfax county a better place is also about providing more green space, athletic fields and parks. Any county can build out of control with no planning.

Fairfax County use to be exclusive hunt club properties with lush green areas. Now everybody rich is moving out to Loudoun county and Fairfax county is becoming the ghetto of DC with traffic gridlock.

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: Petition12 ()
Date: April 26, 2019 06:29AM

Where is the Formal Petition For this issue of overbuilding fairfax?

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: locoliver ()
Date: April 26, 2019 08:36AM

Welcome to LA Traffic Gridlock Wrote:
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> Forget Park Land and Green Space Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > XE9KW Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > They have to build the pack'n'stacks at high
> > > density because (1) the New World Order has
> > > decreed that all populations must be moved
> into
> > > the cities to keep all the rural areas
> pristine
> > in
> > > the near future. (Agenda 21); (2) The only
> > way
> > > to pay for the metro out to the western areas
> > of
> > > NOVA is to make travelling on the roads so
> > > expensive, well-tolled and basically onerous
> > for
> > > everybody that everyone will HAVE to choose
> > either
> > > the expense of the toll road(s) and metro
> > trains
> > > in order to (a) get to work every day and (b)
> > save
> > > their sanity. Expect that in the future all
> > east
> > > west/north south main roads will be tolled
> and
> > > every acre of land now empty of developments
> > will
> > > soon be bought out and turned into high rise
> > > hells. It is all in the future plans, folks.
> > > Pack'n'stack in the new buzzword of
> population
> > > control and manipulation.
> >
> > The Fairfax County planning commission and
> board
> > have lost their minds! It all about profit for
> > developers who build, dump and run with profits
> > before the county has to deal the nightmares.
> >
> > The more people packed in an area increases
> > government services exponentially while driving
> > down the value of an area over time.
> >
> > Destroying Reston and Great Falls is a tragedy.
>
> > The worst part is the wooded and green spaces
> > which made Fairfax County great and attractive
> > will be gone forever.
>
> Amen, making Fairfax county a better place is also
> about providing more green space, athletic fields
> and parks. Any county can build out of control
> with no planning.
>
> Fairfax County use to be exclusive hunt club
> properties with lush green areas. Now everybody
> rich is moving out to Loudoun county and Fairfax
> county is becoming the ghetto of DC with traffic
> gridlock.

Uh huh. And Loudoun County is becoming Fairfax County. Doing the same thing and saving green space and parks even less than Fairfax did. Pretty soon NOVA is going to be paved the whole way to the Blue Ridge.

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: dowhut ()
Date: April 26, 2019 11:04AM

Answered Wrote:
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> ujfbp Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > ......
> >
> >
> > I must be the only one that looks at maps and
> > google earth. Where is this Reston parkway
> > extension going to cross the river? In the
> middle
> > of the national park or the regional park???
>
> By the Maderia School.

This is obviously a joke.

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: ...... ()
Date: April 26, 2019 11:08AM

Mostest cleverest Wrote:
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> Sounds like you can beat the system then just by
> using Metro. Imagine that!


This from someone who obviously still lives in his moms basement. Maybe when you get a license and a job you'll understand what the problem is

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: Metro Doesn't Work after 50 Year ()
Date: April 26, 2019 12:55PM

...... Wrote:
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> Mostest cleverest Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Sounds like you can beat the system then just
> by
> > using Metro. Imagine that!


Try that several times. One time going from Reston to Herndon I had to make 5 bus changes. Took me about 1hr 20minutes to go from South Reston to Herndon and I had to walk 200 yards from the drop off.

Not to mention that it's very difficult to load all the kids up for soccer practice on a Metro bus.

Every try bring stuff home from the grocery store on the Metro? Home Depot stuff?

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: April 26, 2019 02:37PM

I am a big fan of mass transit and alternative transit, but it needs to be the correct form of transit for the community. It is unfortunate that under Republican as well as Democratic leadership County officials have allowed developers to so fuck up the County that it is damn hard to design a mass transit/alternative transit system that would work well today. Never mind that by the time it is implemented to the point where it is moderately functional things would have changed so much as to make it out of date.

Think travelling from Reston to Herndon by mass transit is hard? Try going from Annandale to Herndon...or from Beacon Hill to Tysons. Try getting to Fairfax Hospital. It doesn't work. Yet our County officials need for it to work in order to assure businesses the supply of lower cost labor they need.

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: Mass Transit Doesn't Work in FFX ()
Date: April 29, 2019 11:45AM

Bill.N. Wrote:
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> I am a big fan of mass transit and alternative
> transit, but it needs to be the correct form of
> transit for the community. It is unfortunate that
> under Republican as well as Democratic leadership
> County officials have allowed developers to so
> fuck up the County that it is damn hard to design
> a mass transit/alternative transit system that
> would work well today. Never mind that by the
> time it is implemented to the point where it is
> moderately functional things would have changed so
> much as to make it out of date.
>
> Think travelling from Reston to Herndon by mass
> transit is hard? Try going from Annandale to
> Herndon...or from Beacon Hill to Tysons. Try
> getting to Fairfax Hospital. It doesn't work.
> Yet our County officials need for it to work in
> order to assure businesses the supply of lower
> cost labor they need.

You nailed it. The planning commission seems to think mass transit solves all the over-development issues but ask anybody on the board or planning commission when the last time they went out, to a soccer practice, Home Depot, or grocery shopping by mass transit?

Hell just ask them why the parking lot at the Government center is full? Better yet close the underground garage at the gov center and force all employees, the planning commission and the board to use mass transit.

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: Bus Transfers ()
Date: May 06, 2019 02:05PM

Mass transit? LMAO!

Loved the post about the guy in DC saying he would only take mass transit if elected and that lasted two weeks.

Switching from bus to bus in short run trips is a pain in the ass and very time consuming!

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: Switching Buses ()
Date: May 13, 2019 03:37PM

Bus Transfers Wrote:
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> Mass transit? LMAO!
>
> Loved the post about the guy in DC saying he would
> only take mass transit if elected and that lasted
> two weeks.
>
> Switching from bus to bus in short run trips is a
> pain in the ass and very time consuming!

It's the worse! Long trips it's so bad because you're on the buses for long periods, like going into DC, but short hops forget using any bus. Useless. You can walk directly on short trips faster than switching all the buses.

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: Pump and Dump Developers ()
Date: May 14, 2019 11:58PM

Hopefully the Great Falls Town center isn't being constructed by the same company doing the Whiele Station mess.

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Re: The Widen of 193 and Extending Reston Parkway Through Great Falls
Posted by: Gheto County ()
Date: May 17, 2019 10:16AM

I see they are getting ready to move the poles back from the roads around the Maderia area. People around the Maderia area and Great Falls shopping center area must be pissed off.

Also noticed the new plans to eliminate the parks around the Oakton and Clifton areas. This county is going to be ghetto gang central.

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