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Obamas Now In With The NYT BS Article
Posted by: Loads Of Horse Manure ()
Date: September 07, 2018 01:11PM

Thats what his speech is all about, a despicable attempt to overthrow the President in Nov, by attempting to enrage the people with a fake NYT unsigned no source article

STFU Obama you had 8 years and we got nothing but typical BS from you, you had the whole ball of wax for 2 years , and all you could do is F the people with a lousy Obozo unaffordable insurance scheme tax the working people , talk shit about the so called rich getting tax breaks that all rich Democrats take as well as everyone with a brain as they are legal and written into the tax code by Democrats in the past! Then the other unworkable Obama programs with typical weakness

Vote GOP , Democrats have nothing as usual but bullshit and schemes like whats going on right now

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Re: Obamas Now In With The NYT BS Article
Posted by: "Obama Economy" ()
Date: September 07, 2018 01:30PM

The very words "Obama Economy" are and forever will be a bad joke describing the stagnate US economy during Obama 8 years in office. As he wasted his term with a "community organizers failed social engineering" instead of improving the economy and job growth with the gains it should have been seeing

Much has been said about the now strong Trump stock market and job growth

And people need to heed this:

It not just individuals whose stocks are doing better, Its pension plans with stock market investments all over America that are getting a much needed boost after Obamas 8 years to remain solvent, pensions that may be yours or members of your family

VOTE GOP To keep those plans solvent

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Re: Obamas Now In With The NYT BS Article
Posted by: Actually... ()
Date: September 07, 2018 01:32PM

Republicans are the source of everything bad. Turn them out. Return to national sanity before it’s too late.

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Re: Obamas Now In With The NYT BS Article
Posted by: he's a joke ()
Date: September 07, 2018 01:38PM

Obama is laughable.

During the 8 years of Obama, the administration prosecuted nine cases involving whistle-blowers and leakers, compared with only three by all previous administrations combined. It has repeatedly used the Espionage Act, a relic of World War I-era red-baiting, not to prosecute spies but to go after government officials who talked to journalists.

Under Mr. Obama, the Justice Department and the F.B.I. have spied on reporters by monitoring their phone records, labeled one journalist an unindicted co-conspirator in a criminal case for simply doing reporting and issued subpoenas to other reporters to try to force them to reveal their sources and testify in criminal cases.

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Re: Obamas Now In With The NYT BS Article
Posted by: GOP = Trash ()
Date: September 07, 2018 01:48PM

Obama will ultimately be a Top Ten President. Trump will forever be dead last.

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Re: Obamas Now In With The NYT BS Article
Posted by: YOU = DUMB ()
Date: September 07, 2018 01:52PM

When you can't dispute facts or present your own, respond with banal platitudes.

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Re: Obamas Now In With The NYT BS Article
Posted by: In reality... ()
Date: September 07, 2018 02:52PM

Obama pulled us out of the Bush-driven Great Recession in five months. He got us out of the foolish quagmire brought on by the Invasion of Iraq. He was the catalyst for the first US national health care system.

Trump has only broken things

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Re: Obamas Now In With The NYT BS Article
Posted by: Factually speaking ()
Date: September 07, 2018 03:01PM

Obama gave us the slowest and worst recovery of an economy since the Great Depression.

George W. Bush signed the Status of Forces agreement in 2008, which planned for all American troops to be out of Iraq by the end of 2011. When Obama honored that agreement, he helped create and allow for ISIS. Great job.

There is, as of yet, no national health care system. Further, the system he created is riddled with flaws and failures.

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Re: Obamas Now In With The NYT BS Article
Posted by: What did you expect? ()
Date: September 07, 2018 05:55PM

Look, obama was someone who had zero experience running anything.
Not a corporation ,a small business ,a small town, a city,a fire department,any military unit,not even a boyscout troop or hot-dog stand.
White guilt and big Wall Street money advertised this completely inexperienced clown into the presidency.
Having never managed anything how could he be expected to know anything about management?
No matter how incompetent,he was lavishly praised by people in fear of being called racist.

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Re: Obamas Now In With The NYT BS Article
Posted by: Liberal Insanity ()
Date: September 07, 2018 07:52PM

>Return to national bankruptcy

That's what we get with Democrats all right

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Re: Obamas Now In With The NYT BS Article
Posted by: In reality... ()
Date: September 08, 2018 01:53PM

Factually speaking Wrote:
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> Obama gave us the slowest and worst recovery of an
> economy since the Great Depression.

Would have much quicker absent all that obstruction from the GOP.

> George W. Bush signed the Status of Forces
> agreement in 2008, which planned for all American
> troops to be out of Iraq by the end of 2011.

Forced after Obama’s trip to Iraq and ‘just about right’ discussions there. ISIS was meanwhile the natural result of invading at all. Bush just ignored all that in order to bring ‘the blessings of democracy’ to the Middle East. What s buffoon.

> There is, as of yet, no national health care
> system. Further, the system he created is riddled
> with flaws and failures.

Short of outright single-payer, PPACA set out a very good system. All that is necessary is to maintain it properly, which is the opposite of what Trump has been doing. Voters will be holding that against him in November.

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Re: Obamas Now In With The NYT BS Article
Posted by: Bankrupt system ()
Date: September 08, 2018 02:48PM

The current system is financially not working.
Making promises that can't be kept is not a great victory.
We all agree health care is good and this half-baked plan may be a step along the way but in its current form it doesn't work.
Having never managed anything , Obama just doesn't get it.

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Re: Obamas Now In With The NYT BS Article
Posted by: Wake up, little one... ()
Date: September 08, 2018 03:07PM

There were always knobs and controls to keep the system in balance. Trump-fuck and his GOP hooligans are using them for a different purpose.

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Re: Obamas Now In With The NYT BS Article
Posted by: Transcript ()
Date: September 08, 2018 03:26PM

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Re: Obamas Now In With The NYT BS Article
Posted by: Little little man... ()
Date: September 08, 2018 03:30PM

You mean big words that are beyond your comprehension. Loser.

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Re: Obamas Now In With The NYT BS Article
Posted by: tired and wrong ()
Date: September 08, 2018 04:01PM

In reality... Wrote:
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> Factually speaking Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Obama gave us the slowest and worst recovery of
> an
> > economy since the Great Depression.
>
> Would have much quicker absent all that
> obstruction from the GOP.

Tiresome and uninformed. The Democrats controlled Congress starting in 2007. By using your flawed rationale, they can be held just as culpable as Bush for the Great Recession that occurred during their watch. Additionally, Democrats continued to hold Congress for the first two years of Obama's administration.

Perhaps it's time to start thinking on your own and stop foolishly following party indoctrination.

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Re: Obamas Now In With The NYT BS Article
Posted by: vocabulary workshop ()
Date: September 08, 2018 04:02PM

Little little man... Wrote:
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> You mean big words that are beyond your
> comprehension. Loser.


Yes, words like corPsman.

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Re: Obamas Now In With The NYT BS Article
Posted by: In reality... ()
Date: September 08, 2018 04:16PM

tired and wrong Wrote:
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> Tiresome and uninformed. The Democrats controlled
> Congress starting in 2007. By using your flawed
> rationale, they can be held just as culpable as
> Bush for the Great Recession that occurred during
> their watch. Additionally, Democrats continued to
> hold Congress for the first two years of Obama's
> administration.
>
> Perhaps it's time to start thinking on your own
> and stop foolishly following party indoctrination.

Lol!!! The Great Recession was hatched between 2002 and 2006 by cowboy capitalists on Wall Street and doofus laissez-faire regulators in Washington. All GOP all the time. The housing market broke in the Spring of 2006. It was all over but the frying at that point.

Maybe fucking learn something before shooting your fool mouth off.

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Re: Obamas Now In With The NYT BS Article
Posted by: tired and wrong ()
Date: September 08, 2018 04:24PM

When I tell you your response is tiresome and uninformed, it's probably best to not respond with more tiresome and uninformed nonsense. The housing bubble began to deflate in 2006. It did not burst until later. No worries, nobody will ever accuse you of being informed.

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Re: Obamas Now In With The NYT BS Article
Posted by: In reality... ()
Date: September 08, 2018 04:34PM

Kiss my ass, dumbfuck. You don’t know shit about the history of the Great Recession. Housing market broke, interest rate triggers went off, default rates rose, balance sheets deteriorated, systemic risk grew, pretty soon there was a freaking credit crisis. You missed all the good parts, Bozo.

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Re: Obamas Now In With The NYT BS Article
Posted by: tired and wrong ()
Date: September 08, 2018 04:42PM

And after all that, Obama gave us the slowest economic recovery since the Great Depression, despite the fact his party controlled all levers of government.

That's the fact you can't run from.

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Re: Obamas Now In With The NYT BS Article
Posted by: Dean Baker ()
Date: September 08, 2018 05:03PM

In reality... Wrote:
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> tired and wrong Wrote:
> ----------------------------------------
> > Tiresome and uninformed. The Democrats
> controlled
> > Congress starting in 2007. By using your
> flawed
> > rationale, they can be held just as culpable as
> > Bush for the Great Recession that occurred
> during
> > their watch. Additionally, Democrats continued
> to
> > hold Congress for the first two years of
> Obama's
> > administration.
> >
> > Perhaps it's time to start thinking on your own
> > and stop foolishly following party
> indoctrination.
>
> Lol!!! The Great Recession was hatched between
> 2002 and 2006 by cowboy capitalists on Wall Street
> and doofus laissez-faire regulators in Washington.
> All GOP all the time. The housing market broke in
> the Spring of 2006. It was all over but the
> frying at that point.
>
> Maybe fucking learn something before shooting your
> fool mouth off.


Alan Greenspan will go down in history as the person most responsible for the enormous economic damage caused by the housing bubble and the subsequent collapse of the market.

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Re: Obamas Now In With The NYT BS Article
Posted by: In reality... ()
Date: September 08, 2018 05:16PM

Stuff it, asswipe. Stupid-ass GOP only came up with all of three votes for the Stimulus Package, and that only after chopping tens of billions in need Liquidity out of it. Stoking fears of “spending and debt,” the morons tried to block everything else. It was all the Fed and Executive Orders. You douchebags did nothing.

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Re: Obamas Now In With The NYT BS Article
Posted by: Libs Planned Their Face Plant ha ()
Date: September 08, 2018 06:00PM

Here's how it went down:

... 2 months ago on some billionaire's Island.....

Obama: "Ok, it's all set. The confirmation hearing starts in 2 months, so we all know our part, right?"

Booker: "Yeah, I make up fake info, ham it up and claim I'm like God or some kina shit."

Obama: "Right. And Elizabeth?"

Elizabeth Warren: "Then, when Booker got 'em all fucked over, I bounce up and demand Impeachment! They'll never know what hit 'em!"

Obama: "Right. Then I make The Speech. With that it'll be all over for Trump and he'll resign and withdraw Kavanaugh. Then we can ride them Unicorns to Paradise like I promised."

Booker and Warren: "YEEE-HAH!"



......and the rest, as they say, is history.

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Re: Obamas Now In With The NYT BS Article
Posted by: Too much Ayn Rand ()
Date: September 08, 2018 06:07PM

Dean Baker Wrote:
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> Alan Greenspan will go down in history as the
> person most responsible for the enormous economic
> damage caused by the housing bubble and the
> subsequent collapse of the market.

He certainly screwed up by promising to keep interest rates at 1% until economic activity picked up. Tax cuts for the rich hadn’t worked, so he felt he had to step in.

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Re: Obamas Now In With The NYT BS Article
Posted by: Chase for yield ()
Date: September 08, 2018 06:13PM

He screwed up long before that.

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Re: Obamas Now In With The NYT BS Article
Posted by: In reality... ()
Date: September 08, 2018 06:20PM

Examples? GOP of course thought he was God.

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Re: Obamas Now In With The NYT BS Article
Posted by: From the mouth of Bill Clinton ()
Date: September 08, 2018 07:06PM

They [Alan Greenspan, Bob Rubin, and Larry Summers] argued that nobody’s going to buy these derivatives, we’ll do it without transparency, they’ll get the information they need. And it turned out to be just wrong; it just wasn’t true. And once you got that massive amount of money invested in derivatives that people thought — it’s like these credit default swaps, where people thought, the Lehman people talk about it, they thought, or the A.I.G. people, they thought it was 100 percent safe investment, they thought there would never be defaults on these mortgage securities. So of course you wanted insurance there because you got the insurance premium, you make the profit and you couldn’t possibly lose money, right? Well, it turned out to be all wrong. That rested on a lot of assumptions, including the fact that the ratings agencies would do a good job, which didn’t happen, in evaluating risk. So I very much wish now that I had demanded that we put derivatives under the jurisdiction of the Securities and Exchange Commission and that transparency rules had been observed and that we had done that. That I think is a legitimate criticism of what we didn’t do.

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Re: Obamas Now In With The NYT BS Article
Posted by: In reality... ()
Date: September 08, 2018 09:57PM

There is nothing wrong with derivatives. People who think so don’t understand what they are. (PS. Nobody wrote that for me.)

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Re: Obamas Now In With The NYT BS Article
Posted by: Tries a side step, trips ()
Date: September 08, 2018 10:06PM

Not about derivatives per se.


P.S. Someone should have helped you.

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Re: Obamas Now In With The NYT BS Article
Posted by: In reality... ()
Date: September 08, 2018 10:13PM

Yes, it was all about derivatives, and if you understood them, you would not have posted that slop. Go take a class.

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Re: Obamas Now In With The NYT BS Article
Posted by: Learn to read ()
Date: September 08, 2018 10:18PM

In reality... Wrote:
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> Yes, it was all about derivatives, and if you
> understood them, you would not have posted that
> slop. Go take a class.


"So I very much wish now that I had demanded that we put derivatives under the jurisdiction of the Securities and Exchange Commission and that transparency rules had been observed and that we had done that."

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Re: Obamas Now In With The NYT BS Article
Posted by: In reality..: ()
Date: September 08, 2018 10:29PM

Talk to me about Wendy Gramm and the dark markets for OTC derivatives. Talk to me about Brooksley Born. You can’t because you don't Know crap about any of this. Go copy and paste something else now.

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Re: Obamas Now In With The NYT BS Article
Posted by: Read more, talk less ()
Date: September 08, 2018 10:38PM

In reality..: Wrote:
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> Talk to me about Wendy Gramm and the dark markets
> for OTC derivatives. Talk to me about Brooksley
> Born. You can’t because you don't Know crap
> about any of this. Go copy and paste something
> else now.


Both of which trace directly back to Greenspan and:

"So I very much wish now that I had demanded that we put derivatives under the jurisdiction of the Securities and Exchange Commission and that transparency rules had been observed and that we had done that."

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Re: Obamas Now In With The NYT BS Article
Posted by: In reality... ()
Date: September 08, 2018 11:33PM

Beating a dead horse. There is nothing wrong with derivatives. Clinton had his chances to do some reining in if he had wanted to, but he didn’t step up at the time. Meanwhile, there is no connection between any of that and the Great Recession where Greenspan did play an actual role.

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Re: Obamas Now In With The NYT BS Article
Posted by: Alan's love child ()
Date: September 08, 2018 11:55PM

Nobody said that there was anything wrong with derivatives per se. Why do you keep trying to beat a horse that nobody rode in on?

"Clinton had his chances to do some reining in if he had wanted to, but he didn’t step up at the time. "

With Greenspan being key in that decision and there is a direct connection between that and banks and other entities trading massive amounts of unregulated highly leveraged derivatives.

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