I heard a rumor that you could be giving a ticket if you cuss at a cop? Does anyone know if this is true?
There is no such thing as free speech?

http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+18.2-416

You can be arrested for cussing at anybody. That doesn't mean it'll hold up in court, but yeah, you can be ticketed/arrested for being an ass around an officer.

"under circumstances reasonably calculated to provoke a breach of the peace"

isnt the above describing something like attempting to incite a riot? oh... and the police are always right. so remember when you are being beaten that you did something wrong... like... asking a question or stating you have a specific right that they are violating.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

Unless the cops are about to actually hurt you, you should probably not mention they are violating your rights. That way, the charge gets dropped in court a lot more easily. I've never understood why cops fail to do the simplest things like read someone's rights before questioning, but fail they do.

Wow its a class 3 misdemenor as well.

RESton Peace....why would a cop have to read you your rights while questioning you about a ticket? Thats what we are talking about here, right?

There's actually a whole list of things you can get ticketed for if you say them while talking to a cop, besides stuff like "shit" and "fuck". Here's a partial list:

blumpkin
eggroll
kong
dothead
Jesus
new parkland
supermercado
wenk
gravis

Stay safe

BR Wrote:
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> There's actually a whole list of things you can
> get ticketed for if you say them while talking to
> a cop, besides stuff like "shit" and "fuck".
> Here's a partial list:
>
> blumpkin
> eggroll
> kong
> dothead
> Jesus
> new parkland
> supermercado
> wenk
> gravis
>
> Stay safe


I don't see Dunkin' Donuts, Krispy Kreme, Chief Wiggum or Barney Fife on this list. Are you sure it is correct?

Ahem. "Here is a PARTIAL list" emphasis added.

Gravis Wrote:
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> "under circumstances reasonably calculated to
> provoke a breach of the peace"
>
> isnt the above describing something like
> attempting to incite a riot? oh... and the police
> are always right. so remember when you are being
> beaten that you did something wrong... like...
> asking a question or stating you have a specific
> right that they are violating.


Breaching the peace or disturbing the peace is many times used to as an infraction when someone pleas down from a misdemeanor. It means whatever the judge wants it to so it could be playing your boombox too loud or laying down in the street blocking traffic. Incitement is usually provoking people "like telling a crowd in a speech to go burn down a building" and then they do. If the cops want to arrest you they can and will. Remember you can be "detained" for 48 hours without charge at least as long as you're not an enemy combatant. Now I'm not a legal expert like some people on this forum so some of this may not be 100% correct.

park1, no, I was talking about an actual custody arrest. I was answering Gravis, not you.

How would you know they (cops) don't read you your rights during a custody arrest? Are you with every cop in the country during a "custody arrest"?

Oh good lord

Read my original message carefully, then snipe.

wait... what about "custard arrest"? is that like arresting Colonel Custard. i know he totally killed Professor Plum in the Kitchen with the knife?

edit: no can spel


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/19/2006 10:15AM by Gravis.

"doughnut head" is always good.

As for Colonel Mustard, we all know that he had a thing going with the French Maid and Ms White.

Police don't have to read you your rights if you are under arrest or even if you're being stopped during a preliminary investigation. It's a myth perpetuated by television and movies. The only time you have to be read your rights is if you are not free to leave and are being questioned about a specific event. You can also be arrested and questioned about an unrelated event even if you've "lawyered up". But of course, all these sidewalk lawyers know better.

Bottom line DON'T TRUST THE FUCKING COPS! yOU ALWAYS CAN REMAIN SILENT,EVEN ON TRAFFIC STOPS.HAND THEM YOUR LICENCE,PROOF OF INSURANCE AND REGISTRATION THAT'S IT. ALL THE WHERE ARE YOU HEADED,WHERE ARE YOU COMING FROM QUESTIONS,YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER. WHEN ASKED,SAY WHY? OR POINT AND SAY THAT WAY.WHERE ARE YOU COMING FROM? POINT BEHIND YOU AND SAY "THAT WAY". Don't take shit from Cops! Especially the assholes in Fairfax county,Fairfax city,Vienna,and the worst HERNDON!

Yeah.....listen to dirtyharry. The entire world is against "us". Be disrespectful to everyone of authority. Be a complete asshole everytime you open your mouth, just like dirtyharry. Don't trust anyone, cops, the govt, etc... (sarcasm). I'm sure thats what his "momma" told him to do.

dirtyharry Wrote:
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> Bottom line DON'T TRUST THE FUCKING COPS! yOU
> ALWAYS CAN REMAIN SILENT,EVEN ON TRAFFIC
> STOPS.HAND THEM YOUR LICENCE,PROOF OF INSURANCE
> AND REGISTRATION THAT'S IT. ALL THE WHERE ARE YOU
> HEADED,WHERE ARE YOU COMING FROM QUESTIONS,YOU
> DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER. WHEN ASKED,SAY WHY? OR POINT
> AND SAY THAT WAY.WHERE ARE YOU COMING FROM? POINT
> BEHIND YOU AND SAY "THAT WAY". Don't take shit
> from Cops! Especially the assholes in Fairfax
> county,Fairfax city,Vienna,and the worst HERNDON!

Good advice if you just murdered somebody in a bank robbery.

You don't have to hand the cops proof of insurance for a traffic infraction.

Harry's just being harry.

park1 Wrote:
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> Be a complete asshole everytime you
> open your mouth

seems like you got that part covered.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

Gravis wrote: "seems like you got that part covered."

Did you get help with that come back?

park1 Wrote:
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> Did you get help with that come back?

YES! i chatted among my friends for hours. there was some debate but in the end we decided upon that response.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

LMFAO HAHAHAHHAHA

you guys are fucking hilarious. keep pounding eachother, its funny.


But just show respect to the cop. Giving him shit is pointless....You make his job harder therefor he skrews you over more, you also give him more behaviors he can describe to the judge while in court ...Its like you coming to my work and yelling at me....depending on how i feel i can either stick my foot up your ass or just take the bs and smile.

Just speak and handle things calmly and if you notice the cop is skrewing you over...do a load of research, get a lawyer and get infront of the judge and let it all out. If you do it in a calmly matter your rights will be given.

RESton Peace Wrote:
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> You don't have to hand the cops proof of insurance
> for a traffic infraction.
>



Wrong...

Ron Wrote:
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> RESton Peace Wrote:
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> > You don't have to hand the cops proof of
> insurance
> > for a traffic infraction.
> >
>
>
>
> Wrong...


right....

There is a class 3 misdemeanor that prohibits you from "cursing and abusing" people. Here it is:

§ 18.2-416. Punishment for using abusive language to another.

If any person shall, in the presence or hearing of another, curse or abuse such other person, or use any violent abusive language to such person concerning himself or any of his relations, or otherwise use such language, under circumstances reasonably calculated to provoke a breach of the peace, he shall be guilty of a Class 3 misdemeanor.


They don't use it much, but it's there.

So I'm eating lunch today with a bunch of buddy's and I said "What the fuk?"

These two little old ladies turned around and gave me a look as if I had just shot their dog.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEOnXE1gJtg

Cussing at cops it not advisable.

Chuck1 Wrote:
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> I heard a rumor that you could be giving a ticket
> if you cuss at a cop? Does anyone know if this is
> true?
> There is no such thing as free speech?

no it's not true

cursing and profanity in public (meaning the public can hear it and is meant to hear it) is not legal in VA. however people have cursing on their licence plates (which are removed) and often t-shirts (used to be removed if seen - today unsure if they are doing that)

nudity in public is illegal, except at designated places (the beach)

however if your being arrested - it's often in private (as officers often arrange for an arrest to be in private)

no it's not true curse words are illegal

cursing in public is also not illegal at designated place/times - ie, movie theaters

Be careful doing it around the wrong people.