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Trump wrong on energy?
Posted by: emily litella ()
Date: October 10, 2016 03:17PM

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“Energy is under siege by the Obama administration. Under absolutely siege,” Trump said.
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Production of natural gas and oil has soared in the Obama years. For that we can thank the aggressive raising of capital, the refinement and continuous improvement of fracking, and the government either encouraging the trend or largely staying out of the way. Environment regulations have not tamped down drilling for oil and natural gas in any meaningful way. Oil production has risen in each of the first seven years of the Obama administration, and the 2015 production total was nearly twice that of 2005. (Oil production is down a bit so far in 2016, largely due to low prices.) Natural gas production has likewise boomed, rising 40 percent between 2005 and 2015 to a record 32.9 trillion cubic feet.

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Re: Trump wrong on energy?
Posted by: X7JxU ()
Date: October 10, 2016 05:45PM

Most all of the growth is from private lands/leases and has little to do with the Federal government.

The Obama administration has limited production from Federal leases and restricted new land/waters. Also took near-shore drilling off the table.

But I believe that he was talking about coal mainly.

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Re: Trump wrong on energy?
Posted by: emily litella ()
Date: October 10, 2016 06:00PM

X7JxU Wrote:
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> Most all of the growth is from private
> lands/leases and has little to do with the Federal
> government.
>
> The Obama administration has limited production
> from Federal leases and restricted new
> land/waters. Also took near-shore drilling off
> the table.
>
> But I believe that he was talking about coal
> mainly.

The point is that coal is hurting because the oil and natural gas are being produced at high levels. Trump claims that the federal government is inhibiting production ("Energy is under siege") at a time when production is booming. That is nonsensical.

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Re: Trump wrong on energy?
Posted by: KdxLL ()
Date: October 10, 2016 06:25PM

emily litella Wrote:
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> X7JxU Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Most all of the growth is from private
> > lands/leases and has little to do with the
> Federal
> > government.
> >
> > The Obama administration has limited production
> > from Federal leases and restricted new
> > land/waters. Also took near-shore drilling off
> > the table.
> >
> > But I believe that he was talking about coal
> > mainly.
>
> The point is that coal is hurting because the oil
> and natural gas are being produced at high levels.
> Trump claims that the federal government is
> inhibiting production ("Energy is under siege") at
> a time when production is booming. That is
> nonsensical.


Actually it's a combination of both.

Oil doesn't relate to coal at all. We use only trivial amounts of oil for electricity generation and most of that is waste fractions and cogen.

Nat gas obviously does and the glut and corresponding pricing has caused conversion and is a primary driver. Doesn't replace all though and coal still provides about 1/3 of all generated power.

Coal companies and coal-fired generation plants very clearly have been under 'siege.' Very intentionally so and, in fact, the administration and environmental groups which they coordinate with are quite proud of that in other contexts speaking from that side vs the energy security/employment/economic impact on coal-producing states.

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Re: Trump wrong on energy?
Posted by: Trump coke head ()
Date: October 10, 2016 06:36PM


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Re: Trump wrong on energy?
Posted by: pCb3T ()
Date: October 10, 2016 07:15PM

Trump coke head Wrote:
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> Trump is a coke head ..quacks like a duck etc
>
> http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/carrie-fi
> sher-donald-trump-absolutely-coke-head-article-1.2
> 824359


Deep bro.

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Re: Trump wrong on energy?
Posted by: pCb3T ()
Date: October 10, 2016 07:21PM

This is Fairfax underground you buffoon

not the gardens at school of Athens

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Re: Trump wrong on energy?
Posted by: Justin Timberlake ()
Date: October 10, 2016 08:02PM

pCb3T Wrote:
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> This is Fairfax underground you buffoon
>
> not the gardens at school of Athens


You're bringing stupid back.

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Re: Trump wrong on energy?
Posted by: Timber ()
Date: October 10, 2016 08:04PM

you're already there ..gaylord!


go suck cock you half a faggot

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Re: Trump wrong on energy?
Posted by: Your troll Kung Fu is weak ()
Date: October 10, 2016 08:18PM

Timber Wrote:
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> you're already there ..gaylord!
>
>
> go suck cock you half a faggot


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Re: Trump wrong on energy?
Posted by: Ha! Ha! Ha! Kung Fu ()
Date: October 10, 2016 09:16PM

Trump will grab you all by the pussy if that is what you want - Ha! Ha! Ha!

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Re: Trump wrong on energy?
Posted by: Srsly? ()
Date: October 10, 2016 09:52PM

Topic is two words too long, and doesn't need a question mark.

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