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Let's say that the meals tax revenue was NOT going to FCPS...would you vote yes?
Posted by: would you rather ()
Date: September 24, 2016 10:38PM

Let's say the meals tax revenue was being spent other ways. Would you be more likely to vote yes?

If so, in your opinion, what county departments or projects should receive the extra revenue?

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Re: Let's say that the meals tax revenue was NOT going to FCPS...would you vote yes?
Posted by: Reminder to all dipshits... ()
Date: September 24, 2016 10:42PM

The County needs the revenue.

It's important to PASS THE MEALS TAX.

The County needs the revenue.

It's important to PASS THE MEALS TAX.

The County needs the revenue.

It's important to PASS THE MEALS TAX.

The County needs the revenue.

It's important to PASS THE MEALS TAX.

The County needs the revenue.

It's important to PASS THE MEALS TAX.

The County needs the revenue.

It's important to PASS THE MEALS TAX.

The County needs the revenue.

It's important to PASS THE MEALS TAX.

The County needs the revenue.

It's important to PASS THE MEALS TAX.

The County needs the revenue.

It's important to PASS THE MEALS TAX.

The County needs the revenue.

It's important to PASS THE MEALS TAX.

The County needs the revenue.

It's important to PASS THE MEALS TAX.

The County needs the revenue.

It's important to PASS THE MEALS TAX.

The County needs the revenue.

It's important to PASS THE MEALS TAX.

The County needs the revenue.

It's important to PASS THE MEALS TAX.

The County needs the revenue.

It's important to PASS THE MEALS TAX.

The County needs the revenue.

It's important to PASS THE MEALS TAX.

The County needs the revenue.

It's important to PASS THE MEALS TAX.

The County needs the revenue.

It's important to PASS THE MEALS TAX.

The County needs the revenue.

It's important to PASS THE MEALS TAX.

The County needs the revenue.

It's important to PASS THE MEALS TAX.

The County needs the revenue.

It's important to PASS THE MEALS TAX.

The County needs the revenue.

It's important to PASS THE MEALS TAX.

The County needs the revenue.

It's important to PASS THE MEALS TAX.

The County needs the revenue.

It's important to PASS THE MEALS TAX.

The County needs the revenue.

It's important to PASS THE MEALS TAX.

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Re: Let's say that the meals tax revenue was NOT going to FCPS...would you vote yes?
Posted by: Lived Here Too Long ()
Date: September 24, 2016 10:43PM

I can't imagine a single service provided by fairfax County that I would like to see more of.

Parks, Police, Fire and Rescue, Libraries, etc. All seems adequate for my needs.

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Re: Let's say that the meals tax revenue was NOT going to FCPS...would you vote yes?
Posted by: Exporting the Illegals ()
Date: September 24, 2016 10:45PM

If half the meals tax was dedicated to shipping away the illegals and their anchor children I would vote for it.

Otherwise, no.

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Re: Let's say that the meals tax revenue was NOT going to FCPS...would you vote yes?
Posted by: WkChk ()
Date: September 24, 2016 10:55PM

Lived Here Too Long Wrote:
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> I can't imagine a single service provided by
> fairfax County that I would like to see more of.
>
> Parks, Police, Fire and Rescue, Libraries, etc.
> All seems adequate for my needs.

The County would run better if you and you asshole dipshit pals were run out of it. You contribute nothing here but unwanted, unneeded, and unwavering STUPIDITY.

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Re: Let's say that the meals tax revenue was NOT going to FCPS...would you vote yes?
Posted by: 7Hdpm ()
Date: September 24, 2016 10:57PM

Exporting the Illegals Wrote:
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> If half the meals tax was dedicated to shipping
> away the illegals and their anchor children I
> would vote for it. Otherwise, no.

You mean dark-skinned people who speak Spanish way, way better than you do? LOLOLOL! What a sorry-ass dumbfuck!

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Re: Let's say that the meals tax revenue was NOT going to FCPS...would you vote yes?
Posted by: MAXX ()
Date: September 25, 2016 02:01AM

Yes, I would of. BUT I AM VOTING NO BECAUSE IN MIDDLE SCHOOOLL NOT ONE TEACHER HELPED ME WHEN I WAS GETTING BUILLED NOT ONE. THEY ALL SUCKED. WHEN I WAS GETTING IN TROUBLE AND TALK IN CLASS AND NOT DOING MY HOMEWORK, THEY GIVE ME 0'S AND GOT ME IN TROUBLE, NOT ONCE HAVE THEY SAID IS THERE SOMETHING WRONG WITH YOU? NOT EVEN ONCE I HATE ALLL FCPS TEACHERS FUCK THEM

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Re: Let's say that the meals tax revenue was NOT going to FCPS...would you vote yes?
Posted by: parks & rec ()
Date: September 25, 2016 09:13AM

I like parks. If the meals tax was actually 4% not 10% and 100% of the tax revenue went to parks and public spaces, then I would vote yes.

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Re: Let's say that the meals tax revenue was NOT going to FCPS...would you vote yes?
Posted by: Fairfax county ()
Date: September 25, 2016 09:50AM

Park and rec,
Fairfax county has a park on every corner. We have a farm. We have a park for the arts. Fairfax drops tons of resources into our parks, already.

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Re: Let's say that the meals tax revenue was NOT going to FCPS...would you vote yes?
Posted by: Response to Gerry ()
Date: September 25, 2016 10:16AM

WkChk Wrote:
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> Lived Here Too Long Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I can't imagine a single service provided by
> > fairfax County that I would like to see more
> of.
> >
> > Parks, Police, Fire and Rescue, Libraries, etc.
>
> > All seems adequate for my needs.
>
> The County would run better if you and you asshole
> dipshit pals were run out of it. You contribute
> nothing here but unwanted, unneeded, and
> unwavering STUPIDITY.

Sorry to break this to you Gerry, but it's you angry needy people leaving that would improve our county.

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Re: Let's say that the meals tax revenue was NOT going to FCPS...would you vote yes?
Posted by: eVtPn ()
Date: September 25, 2016 10:34AM

7Hdpm Wrote:
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> Exporting the Illegals Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If half the meals tax was dedicated to shipping
> > away the illegals and their anchor children I
> > would vote for it. Otherwise, no.
>
> You mean dark-skinned people who speak Spanish
> way, way better than you do? LOLOLOL! What a
> sorry-ass dumbfuck!


Didn't FCPS teach you the definition of the word "illegal"?

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Re: Let's say that the meals tax revenue was NOT going to FCPS...would you vote yes?
Posted by: 43958768765 ()
Date: September 25, 2016 10:48AM

Exporting the Illegals Wrote:
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> If half the meals tax was dedicated to shipping
> away the illegals and their anchor children I
> would vote for it.
>
> Otherwise, no.


I second this.

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Re: Let's say that the meals tax revenue was NOT going to FCPS...would you vote yes?
Posted by: sasme ()
Date: September 25, 2016 11:15AM

43958768765 Wrote:
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> Exporting the Illegals Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If half the meals tax was dedicated to shipping
> > away the illegals and their anchor children I
> > would vote for it.
> >
> > Otherwise, no.
>
>

> I second this.


I HATE FCPS. I ALWAYS VOTED NO WHEN THEY ASKED FOR MORE FUNDS TO REMODEL THE SCHOOLS FUCK SCHOOL FUCK FCPS

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Re: Let's say that the meals tax revenue was NOT going to FCPS...would you vote yes?
Posted by: Inquisitive One ()
Date: September 25, 2016 11:49AM

Let's just say that the greed and social agenda of the FCPS Board does not help! It all starts with the 70-30 split of revenue rather than a 50-50 split with the General Fund.

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Posted by: chuckhoffmann ()
Date: September 25, 2016 12:13PM

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/26/2016 06:25PM by chuckhoffmann.

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Re: Let's say that the meals tax revenue was NOT going to FCPS...would you vote yes?
Posted by: BrianSchoeneman ()
Date: September 25, 2016 12:17PM

The only scenario where passing the meals tax makes any sense is where it is revenue neutral and the increased funding from that source is off-set through lower property taxes.

That would actually be using it to diversify the tax base, not just grab more money.

Any other use should be opposed. Government has to live within its means and stop continually raising taxes. If there isn't enough revenue, there isn't enough revenue and that means cuts have to be made.

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Re: Let's say that the meals tax revenue was NOT going to FCPS...would you vote yes?
Posted by: Inquisitive One ()
Date: September 25, 2016 07:16PM

BrianSchoeneman Wrote:
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> The only scenario where passing the meals tax
> makes any sense is where it is revenue neutral and
> the increased funding from that source is off-set
> through lower property taxes.
>
> That would actually be using it to diversify the
> tax base, not just grab more money.
>
> Any other use should be opposed. Government has to
> live within its means and stop continually raising
> taxes. If there isn't enough revenue, there isn't
> enough revenue and that means cuts have to be
> made.

Sorry to disappoint you but during the School Board Business meeting they pretty much laid out their spending plans through fiscal year '20. Included was a budget gap of $134 million for next year that would be filled by meals tax revenue PLUS the increase in the general fund transfer that they have grown accustomed to on an annual basis ($67 million meals tax plus $60 + or -) and during the '19 fiscal year they would come hat in hand for additional tax increases to complete their strategic plan.

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Re: Let's say that the meals tax revenue was NOT going to FCPS...would you vote yes?
Posted by: 3q4098575 ()
Date: September 25, 2016 09:16PM

BrianSchoeneman Wrote:
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> The only scenario where passing the meals tax
> makes any sense is where it is revenue neutral and
> the increased funding from that source is off-set
> through lower property taxes.
>
> That would actually be using it to diversify the
> tax base, not just grab more money.
>
> Any other use should be opposed. Government has to
> live within its means and stop continually raising
> taxes. If there isn't enough revenue, there isn't
> enough revenue and that means cuts have to be
> made.

Good points, Brian, but they are just trying to get more money. You know they are.
They are money vacuum cleaners.

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Re: Let's say that the meals tax revenue was NOT going to FCPS...would you vote yes?
Posted by: mo' money ()
Date: September 25, 2016 09:32PM

The School Board is working mightily to create an impression and thereby a reality that meals tax revenue is somehow "dedicated" to the schools. The reality is that the BOS controls the tax purse and they allocates funds from all sources including meals tax, at their discretion to the School Board (among other recipients). The assertion that "70% of the meals tax will be allocated to the schools" means NOTHING. The County can choose to raise or reduce the gross amount of its transfer to the schools regardless of what is raised by a meals tax. At the margin, a meals tax (or additional revenue from parking tickets, from Richmond or from any other source) will reduce pressure on real estate tax increases but only marginally. The overall tax take of the County is over $5 Billion - an additional $100M from meals taxes is less than 2%. There is no requirement that the County increase funding to the Schools - they can pass meals tax revenue along and reduce the contribution from other funds... Given that 75% of the citizens of Fairfax do not have children in FCPS it is unlikely the meals tax will pass on the emotional appeal of school supporters and it is increasingly likely that Supervisors will increasingly hear the pleas of those who claim residential taxes are too high. Time to trim the fat from school spending...

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Re: Let's say that the meals tax revenue was NOT going to FCPS...would you vote yes?
Posted by: nePvX ()
Date: September 26, 2016 05:44AM

No, I would not.

The tax is a local tax to get more tax revenue for Fairfax County. Why? Because, our local reps down in Richmond are unable to get the state to return more of the taxes Fairfax County is sending down to the state.

Second, I don't see any controls on the %-knob -- I gather the Board will have the ability to simply change the rate once the tax is in place. No further input from the community will be required.

Lastly, how much of this revenue is going to be wasted creating an "enforcement division"?

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Posted by: chuckhoffmann ()
Date: September 26, 2016 06:50AM

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Re: Let's say that the meals tax revenue was NOT going to FCPS...would you vote yes?
Posted by: Inquisitive One ()
Date: September 26, 2016 07:49AM

nePvX Wrote:
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> No, I would not.
>
> The tax is a local tax to get more tax revenue for
> Fairfax County. Why? Because, our local reps
> down in Richmond are unable to get the state to
> return more of the taxes Fairfax County is sending
> down to the state.
>
> Second, I don't see any controls on the %-knob --
> I gather the Board will have the ability to simply
> change the rate once the tax is in place. No
> further input from the community will be
> required.
>
> Lastly, how much of this revenue is going to be
> wasted creating an "enforcement division"?

I guess my question is whether the "enforcement division" will be supported by the administrative fee that is being planned for the meals tax if it is indeed passed by the voters. While it is an inefficient tax for vendors to administer it is probably more complex for the County due to audits, legal appeals, creating and maintaining vendor accounts and other cumbersome revenue collection problems. If it is not, the tax in itself will become a drain on County resources. The County in some of their revenue projections indicated that the administrative fee would be six percent.

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Re: Let's say that the meals tax revenue was NOT going to FCPS...would you vote yes?
Posted by: Local Merchant ()
Date: September 26, 2016 08:29AM

Inquisitive One Wrote:
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> nePvX Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > No, I would not.
> >
> > The tax is a local tax to get more tax revenue
> for
> > Fairfax County. Why? Because, our local reps
> > down in Richmond are unable to get the state to
> > return more of the taxes Fairfax County is
> sending
> > down to the state.
> >
> > Second, I don't see any controls on the %-knob
> --
> > I gather the Board will have the ability to
> simply
> > change the rate once the tax is in place. No
> > further input from the community will be
> > required.
> >
> > Lastly, how much of this revenue is going to be
> > wasted creating an "enforcement division"?
>
> I guess my question is whether the "enforcement
> division" will be supported by the administrative
> fee that is being planned for the meals tax if it
> is indeed passed by the voters. While it is an
> inefficient tax for vendors to administer it is
> probably more complex for the County due to
> audits, legal appeals, creating and maintaining
> vendor accounts and other cumbersome revenue
> collection problems. If it is not, the tax in
> itself will become a drain on County resources.
> The County in some of their revenue projections
> indicated that the administrative fee would be six
> percent.


I believe that the 6% that you're referring to is the fee to merchants intended to offset some of their costs for acting as collection agents for the county. In the same way that the rebate is done for state sales and use taxes. That's off the top of the gross taxes collected by the merchant. It does not include the county's costs for administration, systems, collections, audit, enforcement, etc.

It doesn't really cover the merchant's cost either. Sales and use taxes are one of the biggest pains in the ass that businesses have to deal with. All counted, I probably spend at least a full day's worth of time every month doing stuff related to it. The piddly 3% of 6% (.002/dollar collected) that I get for my trouble doesn't come close to covering my cost. For merchants affected this will be on top of that. And state sales tax is relatively easy since the state has automated systems to file and pay and there's at least some integration with my accounting system which likely will not be the case for the county. At least initially and without it spending a bunch of money to implement, operate and maintain its side of it.

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Re: Let's say that the meals tax revenue was NOT going to FCPS...would you vote yes?
Posted by: FFXCO wastes money too ()
Date: September 26, 2016 08:50AM

I would still vote no. The county wastes a lot of money just like the schools.

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Re: Let's say that the meals tax revenue was NOT going to FCPS...would you vote yes?
Posted by: No No No! ()
Date: September 26, 2016 10:09AM

Not one American citizen would be helped by the tax. All proceeds will be underwriting the illegals and making Fairfax an even more attractive "sanctuary" for rapists and thieves.

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Re: Let's say that the meals tax revenue was NOT going to FCPS...would you vote yes?
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: September 26, 2016 03:32PM

There are programs that I would be willing to pay more taxes for. However unless your program is being 100% funded with meals tax revenues, it is a shell game. If your program gets funds from the meals tax there is nothing which prevents the BOS from reducing or even eliminating other county funds your program gets.

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Re: Let's say that the meals tax revenue was NOT going to FCPS...would you vote yes?
Posted by: Common Cents ()
Date: September 26, 2016 08:46PM

You can bet your ass that these funds will fall victim to co-mingling and mis-use.

Here's an idea... how about some cost cutting and fiscal responsibility. This house of cards built up with highly subsidized retirement pensions for public servants will bring down any economy. It's only a matter of time. Why do you think businesses did away with this practice and replaced with 401k.

Wake up people... increased and creative taxes are not the long term answer. The lie about these funds also getting used to offset property taxes is the cherry on top of this crap sundae they are trying to feed us.

Learn to spend within the current revenue!

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