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Immigrants and waiting for jobs
Posted by: trickiL ()
Date: September 06, 2006 11:32PM

Okay this might be a dumb question but here goes. Since people in Herndon got so mad about about all those immigrant people outside the 7/11 waiting for jobs, it's been all over the papers with those Minutemen taking pictures of them and following vans with employers and stuff. How come no one makes a big deal about other places where immigrants hang out? Specifically, the corner of Hummer Rd., the Ruby Tuesday at Fairfax Circle, the 7/11 near Fairfax Circle near the Lamb Center (homeless shelter) etc. I see them there all the time hanging out.

Trickie

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Re: Immigrants and waiting for jobs
Posted by: RESton Peace ()
Date: September 06, 2006 11:52PM

Define "big deal".... I know residents in all those areas who have been vocal about the situations in those areas. The reason it is such a big thing in Herndon is because it caused almost every person on the town council that supports the center to lose the subsequent election after the center was formed.

That made the story into a headline... in the washington post. So herndon self-elevated their personal issues into the national spotlight, making them the "poster child". That makes them an easy target.

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Re: Immigrants and waiting for jobs
Posted by: Fairfax MF-er ()
Date: September 07, 2006 09:29AM

The big deal with Herndon is that taxpayer dollars were used to start a Day Laborer Center. The pros of this is that you won't have as many day laborers hanging out in front of the 7/11 and loitering around peoples' neighborhoods. The cons of this is the community appears to be encouraging illegal behavior from contractors.

As for other towns, the past few times I have driven through Fairfax City I have seen Day Laborers just sitting around on Highway 50. Seven years ago when I lived there I NEVER saw this. It is a huge friggin' mess.

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Re: Immigrants and waiting for jobs
Posted by: KeepOnTruckin ()
Date: September 07, 2006 10:56PM

I think we need to look at why we get Asians, Mexicans, etc in this whole area. So the Asians come because we have high paying jobs and great schools, plus no driver training for them to worry about. Mexicans come because many jobs need doing around here that lazy people are willing to pay for. These lazy people have money becasue jobs in this area pay well.

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Re: Immigrants and waiting for jobs
Posted by: Fairfax MF-er ()
Date: September 08, 2006 10:14AM

KeepOnTruckin Wrote:
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> I think we need to look at why we get Asians,
> Mexicans, etc in this whole area. So the Asians
> come because we have high paying jobs and great
> schools, plus no driver training for them to worry
> about. Mexicans come because many jobs need doing
> around here that lazy people are willing to pay
> for. These lazy people have money becasue jobs in
> this area pay well.


Here is the Fairfax County economic model:

Rich white guy lawyer/lobbyist works 80 hours a week. He is married to rich white gal lawyer/lobbyist, who also works 80 hours a week. Rich white guy gets rich white gal pregnant. They go to Inova, where Indian/Pakistani doctors and Filipino nurses deliver the baby. Then rich white guy lawyer and rich white gal lobbyist go back to work for 80 hours a week, so they hire an illegal Mexican nanny to take care of the kid, an illegal Mexican maid to take care of the house and an illegal Mexican gardener to take care of the yard.

Then the rich white guy lawyer and the rich white gal lobbyist bitch about illegal immigration when a group of 20 Mexicans move in next door to them and they bitch about how hard it is to make ends meet without dual income and the bitch about how the schools are failing their rotten kids who they never spend any time with.

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Re: Immigrants and waiting for jobs
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: September 08, 2006 08:33PM

KeepOnTruckin Wrote:
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> Mexicans come because many jobs need doing
> around here that lazy people are willing to pay
> for.

there are plenty of americans that would do the jobs... without having 20 in one house.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540

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Re: Immigrants and waiting for jobs
Posted by: WashingToneLocian ()
Date: September 08, 2006 09:15PM

Gravis Wrote:
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> KeepOnTruckin Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Mexicans come because many jobs need doing
> > around here that lazy people are willing to pay
> > for.
>
> there are plenty of americans that would do the
> jobs... without having 20 in one house.


Americans will do the jobs - for $20 an hour. What's the fun in that?

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Re: Immigrants and waiting for jobs
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: September 08, 2006 09:56PM

WashingToneLocian Wrote:
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> Americans will do the jobs - for $20 an hour.
> What's the fun in that?


shut your face.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540

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Re: Immigrants and waiting for jobs
Posted by: WashingToneLocian ()
Date: September 08, 2006 10:01PM

Gravis Wrote:
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> WashingToneLocian Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Americans will do the jobs - for $20 an hour.
> > What's the fun in that?
>
> shut your face.


See. If you had one of those $20 an hour jobs you would be nicer.

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Re: Immigrants and waiting for jobs
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: September 08, 2006 10:35PM

Who the heck can live on 20/hr in this area without a multiple income household? "Americans" that live 3 hours away might do it for 20/per hour. I hope they like the commute.

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Re: Immigrants and waiting for jobs
Posted by: mad max, JD ()
Date: September 08, 2006 11:15PM

When I worked in Chantilly we had a couple people commute in from WV.

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Re: Immigrants and waiting for jobs
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: September 08, 2006 11:20PM

I worked in Chantilly we had a couple people commute in from WV.

I currently work in Reston and there are alot of people in my office who live in the WV panhandle. They don't have cheap homes. They definitely wouldn't be commuting a whole hour+ to Reston for just 20 bucks an hour.

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Re: Immigrants and waiting for jobs
Posted by: brianl703 ()
Date: September 09, 2006 12:20AM

Hah, it can take an hour to go just 15 miles on 28 and you'll get about 15MPG in a car that could normally get 32MPG making the trip during off-peak hours.

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Re: Immigrants and waiting for jobs
Posted by: Genevieve ()
Date: September 09, 2006 11:52AM

brianl703 Wrote:
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> Hah, it can take an hour to go just 15 miles on 28
> and you'll get about 15MPG in a car that could
> normally get 32MPG making the trip during off-peak
> hours.

Well that would depend on what direction and what part of 28...

I drive about ten miles down 28 to work each day (between 29 and 606). The overpasses were a pain during construction, but they've made a huge difference. That part of the drive takes between 15 and 20 minutes on average (and I do not drive agressively). As for gas milage, my golf still gets about 30 MPG.

I used to commute into DC via VRE's Manassas Park station. I had no problems driving between Centreville and Manassas Park because I was always going in the opposite direction of traffic. However, I can imagine that it might take an hour to go from Manassas Park to Centreville during the morning rush hour.

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Re: Immigrants and waiting for jobs
Posted by: Fairfax MF-er ()
Date: September 09, 2006 02:51PM

Seems to me if you are working 2,000 hours a year at $20 an hour that comes to $40K a year. If you are dual income, that's $80K a year per family. You mean to tell me nobody is living in Fairfax who makes less than $80K a year? Ever hear of apartments? Condos, etc?

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Re: Immigrants and waiting for jobs
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: September 09, 2006 04:58PM

Ever hear of apartments? Condos, etc?

What are you yakkin about?

I said ---> "Who the heck can live on 20/hr in this area without a multiple income household?"


Ever hear of prepositions? Reading comprehension, etc?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/09/2006 05:04PM by TheMeeper.

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Re: Immigrants and waiting for jobs
Posted by: Fairfax MF-er ()
Date: September 09, 2006 05:33PM

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> Ever hear of apartments? Condos, etc?
>
> What are you yakkin about?
>
> I said ---> "Who the heck can live on 20/hr in
> this area without a multiple income household?"
>
>
> Ever hear of prepositions? Reading comprehension,
> etc?


Multiple income and dual income are not the same thing. Multiple income implies illegals living on top of each other. Dual income indicates a married couple with two jobs.

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Re: Immigrants and waiting for jobs
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: September 09, 2006 07:22PM

Multiple income and dual income are not the same thing. Multiple income implies illegals living on top of each other. Dual income indicates a married couple with two jobs.
alrightythen.jpg



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/09/2006 07:23PM by TheMeeper.

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Re: Immigrants and waiting for jobs
Posted by: ferfux ()
Date: September 09, 2006 08:39PM

ok here is the deal. not since the greeat depression has the divide between the very RICH and the poor been this wide. OK so fewer people have more of the money and are keeping it for themselves, the middle class is shrinking. Illegal immigrants and the so called jobs they are taking away as well as the tax burden are just a smoke screen by the old rich white guys to blind us to those facts. Immigrants have to work eat survive too. the majority of people are just bareley getting by, Let them work

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Re: Immigrants and waiting for jobs
Posted by: brianl703 ()
Date: September 10, 2006 12:25AM

It was like an hour to get from Manassas Drive to McLearen Drive. That's about 13-14 miles, actually.

I don't know if the overpasses have helped since I haven't made that particular trip during morning hell hours since they were built. I expect they probably did.

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Re: Immigrants and waiting for jobs
Posted by: RESton Peace ()
Date: September 10, 2006 12:27AM

they help somewhat... the lights that are still there still cause backups though.

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Re: Immigrants and waiting for jobs
Posted by: brianl703 ()
Date: September 10, 2006 12:35AM

I've actually seen people exit from Wesfields to go north on 28 to make a left onto Willard.

They could have just made a turn off of Westfields to get to the same place, with likely much less delay and certainly less impact to 28 (especially for the ones who can't figure out how to merge and get across three lanes of traffic without creating a major traffic jam).

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Re: Immigrants and waiting for jobs
Posted by: WashingToneLocian ()
Date: September 10, 2006 09:35AM

brianl703 Wrote:
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> It was like an hour to get from Manassas Drive to
> McLearen Drive. That's about 13-14 miles,
> actually.
>
> I don't know if the overpasses have helped since I
> haven't made that particular trip during morning
> hell hours since they were built. I expect they
> probably did.


28 out of Manassas is hell at rush hour. There are several alternate routes from Manassas to 66 that may seem a little out of the way, but have so much less traffic that they are, in fact, much quicker.

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Re: Immigrants and waiting for jobs
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: September 10, 2006 08:01PM

ferfux Wrote:
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> Immigrants have to work eat survive
> too. the majority of people are just bareley
> getting by, Let them work


so people in Mexico dont work and eat food? interesting theory.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540

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Re: Immigrants and waiting for jobs
Posted by: It felt good ()
Date: February 26, 2016 11:27PM

I got a handjob from an immigrant earlier.

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