Good news, all the home owners May be getting a higher tax bill from the people they Voted for. Average Cost will be $400 a year more per year.
Face facts, Someone has to pay for all that Nice furniture and cars that our Legislators enjoy. You wouldn't want your Legislators to offer their friends a low paying job, when all they have to do is raise taxes. Vote Trump if your sick of the way the government does things.

Do you realize that it is arguments such as yours which prevents a more meaningful debate about the fiscal policies of Fairfax County?

I only speak the truth.

Most of these toadstools should just forget about politics and government entirely. It's all so very far above their pay-grade anyway.

I'm pushing all a cross the Country to cut Government jobs, salaries and Employee benefits. I don't know anything about pay-grades, that's for people that can't Make it in the Private sector, and have to rely on tax increases.

Property tax increases are basically a given when you live in an area where people have a fair amount of disposable income. If Fairfax county were a poorer county, the tax increases would be much smaller because many more citizens would show up to fight and speak against the increases. Instead, people continue to pay the increased taxes year after year.

I view your income as mine to do with as I please. When you voted for me, a democrat, you voted to give me full control of your bank account. Now STFU and get back to work!

Better schools, updated police and fire infrastructure, roads, parks all for the pleasantly sum of $400 (most of which will be recovered in retained/increased property value). I hope it is enough because the benefit for such a small amount of money (if any after my profit on my house) is tiny. Hope they know they can keep raising it if it helps my properties increase in value and I get better services/infrastructure.

If the value of your property increases 5% this year (netting thousands of dollars in your home investment), and you're getting butthurt over a 0.2% raise in your property tax, you're not realizing that your net worth still went up a lot. Every time there is an increase in county services from the current level (schools, roads, improvements), the value of your property is going to go up, and go up a lot more than what you would pay in tax increases.

Fascinating. So when my property value goes down, they have to increase the tax rate to "maintain" services. So when does the tax rate ever decrease?

Since my property value is increasing faster than the tax rate, shouldn't the tax rate simply remain the same to provide the County with more income?

recovered in retained home value Wrote:
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> Better schools, updated police and fire
> infrastructure, roads, parks all for the
> pleasantly sum of $400 (most of which will be
> recovered in retained/increased property value).
> I hope it is enough because the benefit for such a
> small amount of money (if any after my profit on
> my house) is tiny. Hope they know they can keep
> raising it if it helps my properties increase in
> value and I get better services/infrastructure.

You're assuming that home values will be maintained or increase. There's a chance it could slide the other way. There was a period of time in the county - and quite likely many parts of the nation in 1990s when home values were stagnant for a period of 5 - 6 years.

With another recession coming and a world economy in trouble, I don't see such a rosy picture.

Yes my property tax went up. finally for the first time in nearly a decade my bill accurately reflect the value of my home and the surrounding homes.

So for all you folk who were gaming the system by having your home valued for lesser amounts and subsequently taxed for a lesser amount. the free ride is over. Start paying your fair share

My projected tax bill came, cheaper than last years.

Stephen Wrote:
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> I'm pushing all a cross the Country to cut
> Government jobs, salaries and Employee benefits. I
> don't know anything about pay-grades, that's for
> people that can't Make it in the Private sector,
> and have to rely on tax increases.

Further proving that "Stephen" is just an ignorant waste-of-time asshole. Go live in some compound in the Montana mountains so we can send ATF stormtroopers in after you. Dumbshit.

up 13% last year and 4% this year, bull shit.

69eGk Wrote:
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> Fascinating. So when my property value goes down,
> they have to increase the tax rate to "maintain"
> services.

Leaving aside the obvious fact that your personal situation is of absolutely no consequence at all, what should happen in a ceteris paribus world is that rates ease when assessments are rising faster than costs while increasing when assessments have either fallen or not risen fast enough to cover costs. But that second part recently failed to occur, which has left the County -- and FCPS in particular -- lagging well behind the funding levels that are necessary to restore and maintain the quality levels that the county has been noted for.

recovered in retained home value Wrote:
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> Better schools, updated police and fire
> infrastructure, roads, parks all for the
> pleasantly sum of $400 (most of which will be
> recovered in retained/increased property value).
> I hope it is enough because the benefit for such a
> small amount of money (if any after my profit on
> my house) is tiny. Hope they know they can keep
> raising it if it helps my properties increase in
> value and I get better services/infrastructure.


Sadly, home values in Fairfax have trailed PWC and Loudoun (except pockets in Falls Church and Alexandria). Sadly, FCPS used to be one of the best in the nation and was always the top ranked system in the area for the past 30 years. Now it trails Arlington, Falls Church, Montgomery Fucking County, Loudoun and is basically tied with Arlington. without TJ (which isn't even counted as it is a regional school), Langley, Oakton and Madison, FCPS would drop another 3 spots and sit right next to PWC.

You're living in a fantasy land my friend. Fairfax County is dying. As is always the case when democrat locusts seize total control and ravage the middle and upper middle class to buy votes and protect the wealthy.

Gerrymeandererz Wrote:
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> There was a period of time in the county - and quite likely many
> parts of the nation in 1990s when home values were stagnant for
> a period of 5 - 6 years.

That was the mess that the idiots Reagan and Bush-41 made. It was spotty however, not a national effect. And it was the only time such a thing had happened since WWII until the even bigger idiot Bush-43 came along.

> With another recession coming and a world economy
> in trouble, I don't see such a rosy picture.

Buy gold and read more Glenn Beck. Stupid asshole.

mjs Wrote:
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> Yes my property tax went up. finally for the
> first time in nearly a decade my bill accurately
> reflect the value of my home and the surrounding
> homes.

You have no idea what the value of your home is. The County assesses it by watching the actual sales prices of homes in your area and all others in the County. Overall real estate markets in the County improved modestly in 2015. This resulted in an average increase in assessments of 1.64% across more than 340,000 rated residential properties. About 55% of such assessements increased this year, while about 32% remained the same.

Economics matters Wrote:
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> Gerrymeandererz Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > There was a period of time in the county - and
> quite likely many
> > parts of the nation in 1990s when home values
> were stagnant for
> > a period of 5 - 6 years.
>
> That was the mess that the idiots Reagan and
> Bush-41 made. It was spotty however, not a
> national effect. And it was the only time such a
> thing had happened since WWII until the even
> bigger idiot Bush-43 came along.

Actually, we can blame that bumbling boob Jimmy Carter for much of that.

Poppa Smurf Wrote:
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> You're living in a fantasy land my friend.
> Fairfax County is dying. As is always the case
> when democrat locusts seize total control and
> ravage the middle and upper middle class to buy
> votes and protect the wealthy.

That's what REPUBLICANS do, you moron. And the reason that FCPS schools fared worse than usual in recent "rankings" is that they somehow fell to a B- on food. On actually relevant categories, they were at or near the top as always.

bump

Hey, dumbass Wrote:
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> Poppa Smurf Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You're living in a fantasy land my friend.
> > Fairfax County is dying. As is always the case
> > when democrat locusts seize total control and
> > ravage the middle and upper middle class to buy
> > votes and protect the wealthy.
>
> That's what REPUBLICANS do, you moron. And the
> reason that FCPS schools fared worse than usual in
> recent "rankings" is that they somehow fell to a
> B- on food. On actually relevant categories, they
> were at or near the top as always.


And yet, under this president, the income gap is at a record high. The only group that has seen growth in wages is the upper 5%. You don't know squat.

Stop defending FCPS. It's not the systems fault that they are losing ground. They have to deal with what walks in the door everyday. Fairfax County's demographics are skewing poorer, less educated and more non-white. No school system could maintain top performance when you have more shit to work with.

.

In the real world Wrote:
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> This resulted in an average increase in assessments
> of 1.64% across more than 340,000 rated residential
> properties. About 55% of such assessements
> increased this year,

Lucky me. I'm not only part of that 55%. At 5% I am also well above the average increase.

Stephen Wrote:
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> I only speak the truth.


no you only speak through your ass, so it tend to stink a bit

The increase was necessary for 60% pay increases and other FCPS pork.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/fairfax-county-school-board-approves-higher-salaries-for-board-members/2015/04/13/45555ba0-e200-11e4-905f-cc896d379a32_story.html

If you don't like it, please move.

Bill.N. Wrote:
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> Lucky me. I'm not only part of that 55%. At 5% I
> am also well above the average increase.

So what?

Oborona blows

In the real world Wrote:
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> You have no idea what the value of your home is.
> The County assesses it by watching the actual
> sales prices of homes in your area and all others
> in the County. Overall real estate markets in the
> County improved modestly in 2015. This resulted
> in an average increase in assessments of 1.64%
> across more than 340,000 rated residential
> properties. About 55% of such assessements
> increased this year, while about 32% remained the
> same.

Yes I know what my home is worth. several homes within 1/4 mile have sold on my street. I know exactly what they sold for and the condition they were in when they sold. for once Fairfax County has the value nailed... Yeah it sucks when property sells nearby and my value increases. but thats the cost of the real estate game. in the last 5 years alone(whenI did a refi and the home was appraised) and a nearby house sold. values have jumped 12%.... last years assement had not changed in 5 years... so i was sucking at the teat and payping lower taxes... Time for me to pay my fair share....

I live in a good hood. Unless a nuke detonates in DC I'm not loosing any money when I sell...

Plus, conditions matter only when you actually do sell.

mVDDK

69eGk Wrote:
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> Fascinating. So when my property value goes down,
> they have to increase the tax rate to "maintain"
> services. So when does the tax rate ever
> decrease?
>
> Since my property value is increasing faster than
> the tax rate, shouldn't the tax rate simply remain
> the same to provide the County with more income?

The rate decreases when the value of your house goes up significantly. We saw rate decreases in the late 90s and early 2000s.

Yes, the rate can stay the same and increase county revenue, but there are also increased demands in the budget, and the schools are constantly screaming for more money.

This is one of the reasons why we need folks on the Board of Supervisors who will hold the line against these tax increases. Unfortunately, we don't have enough who will do that.

BrianSchoeneman Wrote:
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> The rate decreases when the value of your house goes up
> significantly.

That's not true. Rates are not set on the basis of anyone's individual assessment. The board does know by what percentage overall assessments have increased (e.g., 1.64% this year) before it sets the new base RE rate, but there is no connection to anyone's individual assessment.

> Yes, the rate can stay the same and increase
> county revenue, but there are also increased
> demands in the budget...

As the population and productivity increase, the budget must also increase just to keep even.

> ...and the schools are constantly screaming
> for more money.

Particularly after they have been royally screwed for a decade, expected by the Board and by Richmond to do more with less. This is a big-time losing proposition for the County. Without our strong schools, we face a bleak economic future.

> This is one of the reasons why we need folks on
> the Board of Supervisors who will hold the line
> against these tax increases. Unfortunately, we
> don't have enough who will do that.

The base rate should be set not at $1.13, but at $1.17, with the entire four-cent increase going to projects to restore and reinvest in FCPS.

mjs Wrote:
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> Yes I know what my home is worth. several homes
> within 1/4 mile have sold on my street. I know
> exactly what they sold for and the condition they
> were in when they sold.


The only way you would know what the actual sales price a house sold for is if you saw the paperwork.

The price you see in the newspaper or the County real estate database is the total sales price WITHOUT subtracting seller subsidies, which are very common and can run into the tens of thousands of dollars.

Example: a house I flipped went under contract for $550K but I agreed to a $30K subsidy to the buyers. So the buyer only actually paid $520K for the house. The County site still states a sales price of $550K. (I still made a killing and saved on carrying costs.)

You well to do folk send your little darlings to BI and Episcopal while the immigrants are sucking up your tax dinero. Oops, Freudian slip. Anyway, keep paying me big bucks while I live in a less expensive jurisdiction.

You're bragging about staying in a 2-star hotel.

Shut up and pay your fucking taxes you peasants.

anti up on the retirement fund. Pay up bitches

Stephen Wrote:
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> Good news, all the home owners May be getting a
> higher tax bill from the people they Voted for.
> Average Cost will be $400 a year more per year.
> Face facts, Someone has to pay for all that Nice
> furniture and cars that our Legislators enjoy. You
> wouldn't want your Legislators to offer their
> friends a low paying job, when all they have to do
> is raise taxes. Vote Trump if your sick of the way
> the government does things.


I voted Trump and my county taxes went even higher. Fuck you.

Pay raise Wrote:
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> I live in a less expensive jurisdiction.

Where up to 40% of you school costs, in some cases even more, are paid by the state. In other words by income taxes paid by NoVa taxpayers.