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New Gun Controls Needed That Will Prevent Crimes
Date: January 05, 2016 11:30AM

Michael Kennedy shot and killed two Fairfax County police officers at Sulley Govt Center in May 2006. His father was convicted of having/buying the firearms used. As a Marijuana smoker he was prohibited from buying any firearms under federal law, and lied about his use of Pot when he signed the federal 4473 firearms transaction form.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/07/AR2007080700885.html

A person who holds a medical Marijuana card also can not buy a firearm under federal law, So WHY is there not a Federal Registry of all Marijuana pot plant growers and legal recreational users and medical users in California, DC, Wash State , Colorado, or any other place medical Marijuana may be bought ?

Obama must Enforce Federal Law immediately by Executive Order that a list be maintained of all buyers of any states "Legal " Marijuana or plants and all such users or buyers must be prohibited from buying any firearms. This alone will solve 90% of all firearms related crime.

Where the Hell is Obama on this Issue??

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Re: New Gun Controls Needed That Will Prevent Crimes
Posted by: Rational Adult ()
Date: January 05, 2016 12:08PM

You're an idiot.

How's your foot?

Drunk Man Accidentally Shoots His Own Foot: Police
The Alexandria Police Department is investigating an unintentional discharge of a firearm in the 1000 block of Cameron Street. An intoxicated subject shot his own foot; it is non-life-threatening. Expect police activity in the area.

http://patch.com/virginia/arlington-va/s/fj0vc/drunk-man-accidentally-shoots-his-own-foot-police

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Re: New Gun Controls Needed That Will Prevent Crimes
Posted by: Same Old Baloney From Obama ()
Date: January 05, 2016 12:16PM

His "Executive Orders" on Guns today. Lots of blabbing about guns, not a word on the criminals that used them.

So he declares "All that sell guns as a BUSINESS" must have a fereral license.. Gee Wiz.. Thats Been the law ! The problem is what makes a person "In Business" How many guns can a private person sell to another or at a gun show, If there their Own Guns??

Nothing but Pure BS Lip service.

He also declares he will close access to Trusts and Corporations that "Allow Criminals" to buy guns.. Like what Criminals Obama?? If they are Felons in possession of a gun they already can not buy or handle a gun. So why have they not been locked up??

A BIG NOTHING From Obama is all it was with his Adoring Shill Crowd! Which one where you Kilton?? I did not see any hot dog carts there..Sorry.

DAJAX

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Re: New Gun Controls Needed That Will Prevent Crimes
Posted by: Sheji ()
Date: January 05, 2016 12:29PM

Nothing changed in the realm of selling your personal firearms. But the libs will be patting themselves on the back. I think potus has stock in the manufactures buy low, open him mouth and sell sky high.

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Re: New Gun Controls Needed That Will Prevent Crimes
Posted by: Da..JAX ()
Date: January 05, 2016 01:00PM

Same Old Baloney From Obama Wrote:
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> His "Executive Orders" on Guns today. Lots of
> blabbing about guns, not a word on the criminals
> that used them.
>
> So he declares "All that sell guns as a BUSINESS"
> must have a fereral license.. Gee Wiz.. Thats Been
> the law ! The problem is what makes a person "In
> Business" How many guns can a private person sell
> to another or at a gun show, If there their Own
> Guns??
>
> Nothing but Pure BS Lip service.
>
> He also declares he will close access to Trusts
> and Corporations that "Allow Criminals" to buy
> guns.. Like what Criminals Obama?? If they are
> Felons in possession of a gun they already can not
> buy or handle a gun. So why have they not been
> locked up??
>
> A BIG NOTHING From Obama is all it was with his
> Adoring Shill Crowd! Which one where you
> Kilton?? I did not see any hot dog carts
> there..Sorry.
>
> DAJAX


You bitch and cry like a Conservative who never served their country. Man up and run for the office if you don't like how the current President is performing his duties.
And where are these supposed good guys with guns who are their to stop the bad guys?
Should have served your country instead of pissing your twenties away.

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Re: New Gun Controls Needed That Will Prevent Crimes
Posted by: Now what do they do ()
Date: January 05, 2016 01:46PM

Same Old Baloney From Obama Wrote:
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> His "Executive Orders" on Guns today. Lots of
> blabbing about guns, not a word on the criminals
> that used them.
>
> So he declares "All that sell guns as a BUSINESS"
> must have a fereral license.. Gee Wiz.. Thats Been
> the law ! The problem is what makes a person "In
> Business" How many guns can a private person sell
> to another or at a gun show, If there their Own
> Guns??
>
> Nothing but Pure BS Lip service.
>
> He also declares he will close access to Trusts
> and Corporations that "Allow Criminals" to buy
> guns.. Like what Criminals Obama?? If they are
> Felons in possession of a gun they already can not
> buy or handle a gun. So why have they not been
> locked up??
>
> A BIG NOTHING From Obama is all it was with his
> Adoring Shill Crowd! Which one where you
> Kilton?? I did not see any hot dog carts
> there..Sorry.
>
> DAJAX

Yet republicans were going crazy..... Then they were told what he said
He agrees with republicans on more funding for mental illness
This is an issue because republicans can't be seen agreeing with anything the pres does

Enforcing current law by adding ATF agents

The NRA is against the ATF so that's off the table

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Re: New Gun Controls Needed That Will Prevent Crimes
Posted by: Clinton and Obama's Service? ()
Date: January 05, 2016 03:27PM

>You bitch and cry like a Conservative who never served their country

I registered for the draft During the Vietnam War on my 18th BD at the Basement of the old Fairfax Post office draft board. I never went to college or had a deferment. If they had continued the draft I would have been 1A , I was 1H Registered for the draft and awaiting future draft status, as all were at that time and they ended the draft soon after in the summer of 1972.

I have known many Vietnam Vets who told me they were proud of their service , but they would have NEVER been THERE IF they Were NOT Drafted.

Your basically calling chicken shit on every American GI who ever served in WW1, WW2, Korea and Vietnam who WAS Drafted.

You can ask Bill Clinton and Obama why They Did Not Man Up! Clinton pulled strings like hell to stay out of the draft.

If you served Thanks for your service, and that's way more then any of the Vietnam Vets ever got. Enjoy it .

As Far as Obamas Gun Laws go he's Pissing Into the wind .Theres NADA there that will save anyone's life , and if that's his big deal with his onion eye tears, why does he not speak for the million unborn children killed by abortion each year?? Hypocrite as All Liberals Are!

DAJAX

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Re: New Gun Controls Needed That Will Prevent Crimes
Posted by: Beaucoup Bullshit ()
Date: January 05, 2016 04:13PM

Clinton and Obama's Service? Wrote:
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> >You bitch and cry like a Conservative who never
> served their country
>
> I registered for the draft During the Vietnam War
> on my 18th BD at the Basement of the old Fairfax
> Post office draft board. I never went to college
> or had a deferment. If they had continued the
> draft I would have been 1A , I was 1H Registered
> for the draft and awaiting future draft status, as
> all were at that time and they ended the draft
> soon after in the summer of 1972.
>
> I have known many Vietnam Vets who told me they
> were proud of their service , but they would have
> NEVER been THERE IF they Were NOT Drafted.
>
> Your basically calling chicken shit on every
> American GI who ever served in WW1, WW2, Korea and
> Vietnam who WAS Drafted.
>
> You can ask Bill Clinton and Obama why They Did
> Not Man Up! Clinton pulled strings like hell to
> stay out of the draft.
>
> If you served Thanks for your service, and that's
> way more then any of the Vietnam Vets ever got.
> Enjoy it .
>
> As Far as Obamas Gun Laws go he's Pissing Into the
> wind .Theres NADA there that will save anyone's
> life , and if that's his big deal with his onion
> eye tears, why does he not speak for the million
> unborn children killed by abortion each year??
> Hypocrite as All Liberals Are!
>
> DAJAX

I would have gone? But you didn't. You didn't have to wait to be drafted to serve. Your viewpoints might have more validity if you had defended these rights.
Personally, I think one should have to earn the right to own firearms.

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Re: New Gun Controls Needed That Will Prevent Crimes
Posted by: Read the Constitution ()
Date: January 05, 2016 04:18PM

"Personally, I think one should have to earn the right to own firearms."

Too bad the 2nd Amendment is already written and has a large body of court decisions behind it.

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Re: New Gun Controls Needed That Will Prevent Crimes
Posted by: Inalienable Rights ()
Date: January 05, 2016 04:36PM

Read the Constitution Wrote:
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> "Personally, I think one should have to earn the
> right to own firearms."
>
> Too bad the 2nd Amendment is already written and
> has a large body of court decisions behind it.

Read it once or twice. But it was written when most men had already bared arms against tyranny. They were not faint hearted or crybabies. Which are you?

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Re: New Gun Controls Needed That Will Prevent Crimes
Posted by: Common Sense, Again ()
Date: January 05, 2016 04:39PM

Attention: All Psychiatrists, LPCs, LCSWs, etc.:

Your Dear Leader just cost your industry tens of billions of dollars.

Nobody who has never been in the system, will now enter your system, and talk to you, because your Dear Leader will now order that you report on your patient/client.

Privacy rules be damned, the Progressives/Democrats/Socialists/Workers know what's best for you.

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Re: New Gun Controls Needed That Will Prevent Crimes
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: January 05, 2016 04:40PM

Clinton and Obama's Service? Wrote:
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> why does he not speak for the million
> unborn children killed by abortion each year??

Do you favor forcing potential gun owners to undergo medical checks before they can purchase their firearms? Do you favor mandatory waiting periods before potential gun owners can purchase their firearms? Do you believe the government should be creating regulations on gun sellers that are so strict that there would only be a handful of places in the state where a potential gun owner could purchase a firearm? Of course you don't. Both abortion and gun ownership are considered constitutionally protected rights under current Supreme Court rulings. You believe it is OK for the government to regulate the one you don't approve of out of existence, while it should keep its hands off the other. And you have the nerve to call others hypocrites?!?

Also Obama didn't pull strings to stay out of the draft because he didn't have to. The draft was no longer in effect when Obama reached 18. Now Clinton, George W Bush, Trump and other politicians used the rules then in effect to avoid serving in Vietnam, but so did a large number of others of their generation.

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Re: New Gun Controls Needed That Will Prevent Crimes
Posted by: Democrats are Lame ()
Date: January 05, 2016 04:45PM

President Obama, like Clinton, loathes the military.

Why do you think every single college paper and law school paper was suppressed. Because we all know he wrote in the Dialectic of the crazy left.

And, for what it's worth, if President Obama were of military age during the draft, our country would have smart enough to Reject him as an F for his limp-wristed girly baseball throw.

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Re: New Gun Controls Needed That Will Prevent Crimes
Posted by: niggar ()
Date: January 05, 2016 04:50PM

Rational Adult Wrote:
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> You're an idiot.
>
> How's your foot?
>
> Drunk Man Accidentally Shoots His Own Foot:
> Police

> The Alexandria Police Department is investigating
> an unintentional discharge of a firearm in the
> 1000 block of Cameron Street. An intoxicated
> subject shot his own foot; it is
> non-life-threatening. Expect police activity in
> the area.
>
> http://patch.com/virginia/arlington-va/s/fj0vc/dru
> nk-man-accidentally-shoots-his-own-foot-police

"Drunk Man"

Maybe that's your problem

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Re: New Gun Controls Needed That Will Prevent Crimes
Posted by: Ya Ya Ya Sure Its The Internet ()
Date: January 05, 2016 05:39PM

>I would have gone? But you didn't. You didn't have to wait to be drafted to serve

And you are a horses ass who did not even live in that time and age. You would have served Bullshit! Yes if I was drafted I would have gone, Very few people were enlisting in the military in the early to mid 70's and they even were turning people away as the Vietnam War was ending as they had plenty of people in the service . The war ended in 1975 and the last draft call was in the summer of 1972, the last draftee reported in mid 1973 he had been called up earlier and stalled reporting then went in. The last draft lottery numbers were pulled in Jan 1972.

Vietnam and 911 are Two Huge Different Eras in this countries history.

The issue is Obama and his lousy so called Executive Orders like he did something and he did not do Jack Shit today.

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Re: New Gun Controls Needed That Will Prevent Crimes
Posted by: He loves you, ya ya ya.... ()
Date: January 05, 2016 06:48PM

Ya Ya Ya Sure Its The Internet Wrote:
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> >I would have gone? But you didn't. You didn't
> have to wait to be drafted to serve
>
> And you are a horses ass who did not even live in
> that time and age. You would have served Bullshit!
> Yes if I was drafted I would have gone, Very few
> people were enlisting in the military in the early
> to mid 70's and they even were turning people away
> as the Vietnam War was ending as they had plenty
> of people in the service . The war ended in 1975
> and the last draft call was in the summer of 1972,
> the last draftee reported in mid 1973 he had been
> called up earlier and stalled reporting then went
> in. The last draft lottery numbers were pulled in
> Jan 1972.
>
> Vietnam and 911 are Two Huge Different Eras in
> this countries history.
>
> The issue is Obama and his lousy so called
> Executive Orders like he did something and he did
> not do Jack Shit today.

Wow, ya ya ya. Why so mad? Hoping the Prez was coming for your gun?
Oh yea, did you serve?

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Re: New Gun Controls Needed That Will Prevent Crimes
Posted by: Ya Ya Ya No Guns For Pot Smokers ()
Date: January 05, 2016 07:52PM

>Oh yea, did you serve?

It really does not matter. Im not running for President, I already went thru my status above. And as I said anyone who calls chicken to those who were not drafted are calling all draftees chicken as well. "Drafted were you.. WHY Did you not Enlist"! HUH.. Baloney.

Now You Tell us about Your Military Service..

Then Tell us about Bill Clintons, Bernie Sanders and Obamas..It will be a while
won't it, but it still does not matter. As Clinton was the President and Obama is the President. All that matters is the founders gave the American People the Bill of Rights and the 2nd Amendment. And Congress writes the Laws in this country.

All in all Obama did nothing I really see as Illegal today, he simply insisted that "Gun Dealers in Business" have a federal license. We will see what he was talking about with "trusts and corporation and criminals"

The big question to FXU readers is when does a person become a "Gun Dealer In Business".. Answer me that . And if Firearms ownership is Illegal if people use Marijuana , why did Obama not address that with regard to Federal Law..as seen by Mr. Kennedys example to lie on the federal form 4473 and then buy a firearm is a federal felony so beware pot smokers. I would agree that 99 % of all Black on Black gun crimes are done by those who smoke "reefer blunts".

All pure BS from him that's all. He cant "get down" on his liberal base. A big bunch of hype over nothing.

DAJAX

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Re: New Gun Controls Needed That Will Prevent Crimes
Posted by: Oh Bill N ()
Date: January 05, 2016 08:05PM

>Both abortion and gun ownership are considered constitutionally protected rights under current Supreme Court

You are a reasonable person I think by your posts here so I will be respectful unlike so many others here.. Now, How is murder a "constitutional right".. Where did the founders give any rights to abortion?
Yes I know about Roe vs Wade that the case allowed abortions, but a constitutional right??

A court ordered right is more like it. The 2nd amendment is a constitutional right, and yes you know that. And Im Right that Obama will never mention the million a year killed by abortion..

Old Onion Eyes Obama..with only Certain Issues..The unabashed Ham ..Maybe it was some Reefer Smoke that got into his eyes..There were nothing but liberals around him.

DAJAX

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Re: New Gun Controls Needed That Will Prevent Crimes
Posted by: Ignorance Is Not Bliss ()
Date: January 05, 2016 10:05PM

Oh Bill N Wrote:
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> >Both abortion and gun ownership are considered
> constitutionally protected rights under current
> Supreme Court
>
> You are a reasonable person I think by your posts
> here so I will be respectful unlike so many others
> here.. Now, How is murder a "constitutional
> right".. Where did the founders give any rights to
> abortion?
> Yes I know about Roe vs Wade that the case allowed
> abortions, but a constitutional right??
>
> A court ordered right is more like it. The 2nd
> amendment is a constitutional right, and yes you
> know that. And Im Right that Obama will never
> mention the million a year killed by abortion..
>
> Old Onion Eyes Obama..with only Certain
> Issues..The unabashed Ham ..Maybe it was some
> Reefer Smoke that got into his eyes..There were
> nothing but liberals around him.
>
> DAJAX

You are such a hypocrite. The Supreme Court INTERPRETS the Constitution. You think abortion is a bogus right (the decision was based on the right to privacy, BTW - 14th amendment); I think the unlimited 'right to bear' virtually unchecked whatever the hell kind of firepower you want anywhere at any time is a bogus right. Roe vs. Wade was a 7-2 decision - interestingly, by an all male court. Heller was a much closer 5-2 decision by an activist court.

I would love to see what would happen if the courts or Congress tried to restrict men's rights to control their own bodies in any way. Men would never put up with it. Neither should women.

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Re: New Gun Controls Needed That Will Prevent Crimes
Posted by: It Does Not Matter 1 Bit ()
Date: January 05, 2016 10:30PM

Abortion Is Murder ..of a Unborn Child.. I'm Done with That.

And now back to Obama and Pot Smokers buying guns.. The Thread , not the side trek..about killing the unborn child. . POT SMOKERS buying Guns!


DAJAX.

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Re: New Gun Controls Needed That Will Prevent Crimes
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: January 05, 2016 10:31PM

"Yes I know about Roe vs Wade that the case allowed abortions, but a constitutional right?? "

Like it or not the Supreme Court is the ultimate judge of what is and what is not a Constitutional right. It doesn't matter whether the right is expressly stated in the text of the Constitution or some amendment, or whether it is teased out of the various provisions. If they say its a right, it is a right. The reverse is also true. If they had said the Right to Bear Arms wasn't a personal right, all of that language in the Second Amendment would not have done any good. If you don't believe me, take a look at what has happened with the Fourth Amendment beginning with Terry v. Ohio.

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Re: New Gun Controls Needed That Will Prevent Crimes
Posted by: Pm9n6 ()
Date: January 05, 2016 11:22PM

I think the smaller firearms dealers are actually good for the country.

I have a friend that is licensed and does a smaller number of transactions for only people he personally knows or for people that can be vouched for.

He has no interested in making big money, this is somewhat of a 2nd job to mainly help him fund his hobby. He does not want headaches and understands that weapons in the wrongs hands is not desirable.

Compare this to even larger shops in the area that have no idea who most of the customers are from Adam.

I think there should also be protection for shops that decide if something is fishy that they stop the sale on their own discretion and be protected from any claims of discrimination. Then there should be a database that shops/dealers can post questionable attempted purchases that will be flagged if additional background checks are performed. In this case in very short order the person should be interviewed.

I also think the Concealed Carry requirement is actually a bit scary these days. I remember when this first came around classroom and range time was required. At least some MINIMUM level of proficiency was needed. Well as it stands now, an online course is all that is required. As a gun owner and user, it is scary that get a Concealed Carry Permit does not even require someone to load and unload a firearm, understand the mechanical safety and be able to at least know how to pull the trigger. In order to get a drivers license you are at least required to spend time in class and behind the wheel. It does not make you a good driver, but at least you have some idea what you are doing controlling a deadly weapon!

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Re: New Gun Controls Needed That Will Prevent Crimes
Posted by: What A Joke Onion Eyes Played ()
Date: January 06, 2016 10:41AM

So the legal talking heads come forth and there saying some of what I said yesterday about Obamas "Executive Gun Action"

1. That a federal license to sell guns for a profit in business "A Dealer" has already long been in effect .

2. That people that sell their "own guns" out of the truck of their car can continue to sell their "own guns" out of the trunk of a car. Guns from their "private collection" in states that allow private sales. IE: Virginia.

Also they spoke as did a FXU poster here about mental health

3. That people with mental issues will be reluctant to seek treatment

And What Everybody knows

That Obama is the Worlds Greatest Gun Salesman and people who don't own a gun will be buying them as they may think they cant get one later on.

As I said "Pure Lip Service" from "Old Onion Eyes"

And the New Texas Law that liberals make a big deal about, legal open carry of a firearm.. So What, It only applies to those who have permits to carry conceal firearms and they had them any way.
In Virginia Any one can open carry.
And where are all the shootings as a result?? NADA Just More Lip Services.

DAJAX

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Re: New Gun Controls Needed That Will Prevent Crimes
Posted by: WepUP ()
Date: January 06, 2016 11:05AM

What A Joke Onion Eyes Played Wrote:
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> As I said "Pure Lip Service" from "Old Onion
> Eyes"
>
> DAJAX


Sick burn, bro.

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Re: New Gun Controls Needed That Will Prevent Crimes
Posted by: Terry McAuliffe's Eyes ()
Date: January 06, 2016 11:27AM

I will support open carry when women are allowed to bare breasts in public.

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Re: New Gun Controls Needed That Will Prevent Crimes
Posted by: Constitutional Scholar ()
Date: January 06, 2016 11:28AM

Sorry, the right to bare breasts is not in the Constitution, and there are no Supreme Court cases in the pipeline to put it there.

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Re: New Gun Controls Needed That Will Prevent Crimes
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: January 06, 2016 12:23PM

Actually there is a growing body of law supporting the right of women to breast feed in public.

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Re: New Gun Controls Needed That Will Prevent Crimes
Posted by: Nip ()
Date: January 06, 2016 06:27PM

Free the nipple!

Would you rather have Open Carry or not know someone is concealing??

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Re: New Gun Controls Needed That Will Prevent Crimes
Posted by: None Of My Business This One ()
Date: January 06, 2016 09:48PM

>Actually there is a growing body of law supporting the right of women to breast feed in public.

I have seen several women doing this , its natural their feeding their child, and none of my business. I respect their privacy as the majority of people do today.

DAJAX

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Re: New Gun Controls Needed That Will Prevent Crimes
Posted by: lolz... ()
Date: January 07, 2016 02:01PM

I was in a local gun store and saw ARs have been cleared off of the shelves...nice work Obama! That fake crying bullshit he did on tv is making them fly off of the shelves!

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Re: New Gun Controls Needed That Will Prevent Crimes
Posted by: Metal & Plastic Machismo ()
Date: January 07, 2016 02:14PM

lolz... Wrote:
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> I was in a local gun store and saw ARs have been
> cleared off of the shelves...nice work Obama! That
> fake crying bullshit he did on tv is making them
> fly off of the shelves!

Yep...every basement dwelling wannabe soldier wants to own one. Buying their manhood.

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Re: New Gun Controls Needed That Will Prevent Crimes
Posted by: KNFcX ()
Date: January 07, 2016 02:29PM

How about we just outlaw the sale of any gun? That way we would only have to worry about the 300 MILLION that are already in circulation. We are way behind the power curve on this one. Gun control is really a non-issue, and that is a good thing. As Chairman Mao said, political power comes out the barrel of a gun. When the people have guns, they have power.

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Re: New Gun Controls Needed That Will Prevent Crimes
Posted by: lolz ()
Date: January 07, 2016 05:07PM

Metal & Plastic Machismo Wrote:
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> Yep...every basement dwelling wannabe soldier
> wants to own one. Buying their manhood.

I am sure they are 10x the man you will ever hope to be pajama boy!

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