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Why were so many school buses late today?
Posted by:
HUxkE
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Date: September 08, 2015 10:11AM
Why were so many school buses late arriving to school today? New bell schedule, drivers unfamiliar with their routes, or just poor planning?
Re: Why were so many school buses late today?
Posted by:
Que?
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Date: September 08, 2015 10:32AM
The buses couldn't start as the weather was too nice...
Re: Why were so many school buses late today?
Posted by:
Bill.N.
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Date: September 08, 2015 11:30AM
I left home at 7:30 this morning and I saw a number of busses stuck in traffic.
Re: Why were so many school buses late today?
Posted by:
Do your homework
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Date: September 08, 2015 11:41AM
Well, being the first day of school in months, I don't suppose that has anything to do with it?
Also, all county high schools have a later bell schedule
Also, all county high schools have a later bell schedule
Re: Why were so many school buses late today?
Posted by:
Redfd
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Date: September 08, 2015 11:52AM
Que? Wrote:
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> The buses couldn't start as the weather was too
> nice...
+1 Kids don't know how to dress for this type of nice weather. They have to stand outside for long periods of time. It's unfair to other the kids to make them go to school on days like today.
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> The buses couldn't start as the weather was too
> nice...
+1 Kids don't know how to dress for this type of nice weather. They have to stand outside for long periods of time. It's unfair to other the kids to make them go to school on days like today.
Re: Why were so many school buses late today?
Posted by:
Late Start times
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Date: September 08, 2015 11:55AM
It's called school board stupidity. Adding the school buses to primetime rush hour. This is what happens when you let "soccer moms" who don't work on a school board.
Fairfax County teens will get extra sleep next fall under a new initiative approved late Thursday that will push back the first class of the day in high schools to 8 a.m. or after.
The school board voted 11 to 1, with board member Kathy Smith (Sully) opposed, to delay start times to between 8 a.m. and 8:10 a.m. in the county’s 22 high schools and three secondary schools.
“The issue of later start times has been debated and explored for more than a decade in this community,” said Tammy Derenak-Kaufax, School Board chairman. “The growing body of research on the health benefits for adolescents has become so clear and compelling, we felt that we had to make a change.”
Fairfax County teens will get extra sleep next fall under a new initiative approved late Thursday that will push back the first class of the day in high schools to 8 a.m. or after.
The school board voted 11 to 1, with board member Kathy Smith (Sully) opposed, to delay start times to between 8 a.m. and 8:10 a.m. in the county’s 22 high schools and three secondary schools.
“The issue of later start times has been debated and explored for more than a decade in this community,” said Tammy Derenak-Kaufax, School Board chairman. “The growing body of research on the health benefits for adolescents has become so clear and compelling, we felt that we had to make a change.”
Re: Why were so many school buses late today?
Posted by:
Parenthk
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Date: September 08, 2015 11:56AM
Buses are always late the first day. The drivers getting used to everything, traffic, talking parents, for elementary getting the little ones names etc.
Re: Why were so many school buses late today?
Posted by:
jeTTT
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Date: September 08, 2015 11:57AM
By the way congrats to Kathy Smith (Sully) who made the vote.
Re: Why were so many school buses late today?
Posted by:
dnchN
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Date: September 08, 2015 11:59AM
Parenthk Wrote:
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> Buses are always late the first day. The drivers
> getting used to everything, traffic, talking
> parents, for elementary getting the little ones
> names etc.
Bus drivers drive there routes before actually picking up kids numbnuts.
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> Buses are always late the first day. The drivers
> getting used to everything, traffic, talking
> parents, for elementary getting the little ones
> names etc.
Bus drivers drive there routes before actually picking up kids numbnuts.
Re: Why were so many school buses late today?
Posted by:
bds
()
Date: September 08, 2015 12:38PM
Parenthk Wrote:
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> Buses are always late the first day. The drivers
> getting used to everything, traffic, talking
> parents, for elementary getting the little ones
> names etc.
Another reason: Kiss 'n Ride lines are much longer for about the first week of school. After that, many parents put them on the bus. The huge Kiss 'n Ride lines cause gridlock at many schools and buses are stuck in that too.
Say you have 20 minutes to drop off at one school and get to the first stop for the next school and it takes 20+ minutes to get away from the first school?
Result: next school is gonna be late. And the school after that will be even later. It's like the snowball effect.
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> Buses are always late the first day. The drivers
> getting used to everything, traffic, talking
> parents, for elementary getting the little ones
> names etc.
Another reason: Kiss 'n Ride lines are much longer for about the first week of school. After that, many parents put them on the bus. The huge Kiss 'n Ride lines cause gridlock at many schools and buses are stuck in that too.
Say you have 20 minutes to drop off at one school and get to the first stop for the next school and it takes 20+ minutes to get away from the first school?
Result: next school is gonna be late. And the school after that will be even later. It's like the snowball effect.
Re: Why were so many school buses late today?
Posted by:
It's science people
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Date: September 08, 2015 12:43PM
Gasoline vaporizes too fast over 70 degrees.
Re: Why were so many school buses late today?
Posted by:
ours was on time
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Date: September 08, 2015 01:19PM
ours was on time to the minute - get outraged about that K
Re: Why were so many school buses late today?
Posted by:
You Lie
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Date: September 08, 2015 01:27PM
ours was on time Wrote:
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> ours was on time to the minute - get outraged
> about that K
You lie. No one can access FU from school, especially if cell phone use is not allowed. Go back to class.
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> ours was on time to the minute - get outraged
> about that K
You lie. No one can access FU from school, especially if cell phone use is not allowed. Go back to class.
Re: Why were so many school buses late today?
Posted by:
Gov't. Mom & Dad
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Date: September 08, 2015 01:42PM
Late Start times Wrote:
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Fairfax County teens will get extra sleep next
> fall under a new initiative approved late Thursday
> that will push back the first class of the day in
> high schools to 8 a.m. or after.
>
Now that's just funny. How do you suppose they know that?
Dumb Asses
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Fairfax County teens will get extra sleep next
> fall under a new initiative approved late Thursday
> that will push back the first class of the day in
> high schools to 8 a.m. or after.
>
Now that's just funny. How do you suppose they know that?
Dumb Asses
Re: Why were so many school buses late today?
Posted by:
Madness
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Date: September 08, 2015 01:46PM
It's science people Wrote:
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> Gasoline vaporizes too fast over 70 degrees.
You can't expect more than 50% of Fairfax county buses to work. They're buses for christ sake.
I suppose next you'll be demanding that Fairfax county Public schools go Monday-Friday.
Stop with the craziness!
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> Gasoline vaporizes too fast over 70 degrees.
You can't expect more than 50% of Fairfax county buses to work. They're buses for christ sake.
I suppose next you'll be demanding that Fairfax county Public schools go Monday-Friday.
Stop with the craziness!
Re: Why were so many school buses late today?
Posted by:
JXTeb
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Date: September 08, 2015 03:45PM
You Lie Wrote:
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> ours was on time Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > ours was on time to the minute - get outraged
> > about that K
>
>
> You lie. No one can access FU from school,
> especially if cell phone use is not allowed. Go
> back to class.
Thank God they cannot - parents can from home though.
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> ours was on time Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > ours was on time to the minute - get outraged
> > about that K
>
>
> You lie. No one can access FU from school,
> especially if cell phone use is not allowed. Go
> back to class.
Thank God they cannot - parents can from home though.
Re: Why were so many school buses late today?
Posted by:
A. Student
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Date: September 08, 2015 04:32PM
"I suppose next you'll be demanding that Fairfax county Public schools go Monday-Friday."
Now don't you go giving them any crazy ideas. Going a whole week of school. Sheesh. The nerve.
Now don't you go giving them any crazy ideas. Going a whole week of school. Sheesh. The nerve.
Re: Why were so many school buses late today?
Posted by:
Happy Parent
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Date: September 08, 2015 04:32PM
My kids got to sleep in a bit longer today. Actually had time for breakfast and even took out the trash for a change. They seemed more alert as well.
The bus arrived on time and I even made it to work earlier than usual.
Overall a success from my viewpoint.
Definitely worth the extra money FCPS spent to adjust the schedules.
Tax money well spent.
I will vote accordingly.
The bus arrived on time and I even made it to work earlier than usual.
Overall a success from my viewpoint.
Definitely worth the extra money FCPS spent to adjust the schedules.
Tax money well spent.
I will vote accordingly.
Re: Why were so many school buses late today?
Posted by:
Not Happy Parent
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Date: September 08, 2015 09:30PM
Glad you're happy about it. Thanks to the late high school start times, my fourth-grader was on the bus, in traffic, for an hour and a half this afternoon and got home at 5:30 p.m.
I will vote accordingly, too.
I will vote accordingly, too.
Re: Why were so many school buses late today?
Posted by:
Pissed Off Parent
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Date: September 08, 2015 09:39PM
I'm glad to hear one parent in Fairfax county likes the rush hour starts times.
It completely screwed over my morning and the kids were stuck in traffic on their bus this morning.
It completely screwed over my morning and the kids were stuck in traffic on their bus this morning.
Re: Why were so many school buses late today?
Posted by:
Rush hour starts at 4pm?
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Date: September 09, 2015 07:21AM
Not Happy Parent Wrote:
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> Glad you're happy about it. Thanks to the late
> high school start times, my fourth-grader was on
> the bus, in traffic, for an hour and a half this
> afternoon and got home at 5:30 p.m.
>
> I will vote accordingly, too.
Rush hour starts at 4pm? In Fairfax? really where? I would consider moving closer to your school. Even if rush hour doubled the travel time that means you live 45 min from your kids school - too far. Poor parent planning...
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> Glad you're happy about it. Thanks to the late
> high school start times, my fourth-grader was on
> the bus, in traffic, for an hour and a half this
> afternoon and got home at 5:30 p.m.
>
> I will vote accordingly, too.
Rush hour starts at 4pm? In Fairfax? really where? I would consider moving closer to your school. Even if rush hour doubled the travel time that means you live 45 min from your kids school - too far. Poor parent planning...
Re: Why were so many school buses late today?
Posted by:
Rush Hour, the movie
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Date: September 09, 2015 07:29AM
Rush hour in Virginia officially begins at 3:30 pm, when the HOV lanes are restricted. Drive west or south from DC and you will see that many people leave the office at 3 pm, they must start at 6 am.
So yes, 4:00 is in rush hour around here.
So yes, 4:00 is in rush hour around here.
Re: Why were so many school buses late today?
Posted by:
dnNLk
()
Date: September 09, 2015 07:45AM
Rush Hour, the movie Wrote:
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> Rush hour in Virginia officially begins at 3:30
> pm, when the HOV lanes are restricted. Drive west
> or south from DC and you will see that many people
> leave the office at 3 pm, they must start at 6
> am.
>
> So yes, 4:00 is in rush hour around here.
Rush hour can and does even start before 3 pm depending on where you are traveling. Some areas like I-495 North from Route 66 to the American Legion Bridge rush hour seems to start these days before 10 am and does not end until after 7 pm.
In case anyone missed the article, the DC area officially has the worst traffic/commute in the country.
The house cow that thinks rush hour does not start until 5-6 pm has never had to be anywhere in this county other than her local Starbucks.
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> Rush hour in Virginia officially begins at 3:30
> pm, when the HOV lanes are restricted. Drive west
> or south from DC and you will see that many people
> leave the office at 3 pm, they must start at 6
> am.
>
> So yes, 4:00 is in rush hour around here.
Rush hour can and does even start before 3 pm depending on where you are traveling. Some areas like I-495 North from Route 66 to the American Legion Bridge rush hour seems to start these days before 10 am and does not end until after 7 pm.
In case anyone missed the article, the DC area officially has the worst traffic/commute in the country.
The house cow that thinks rush hour does not start until 5-6 pm has never had to be anywhere in this county other than her local Starbucks.
Re: Why were so many school buses late today?
Posted by:
bus before 6 am
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Date: September 09, 2015 08:34AM
Rush Hour, the movie Wrote:
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> Rush hour in Virginia officially begins at 3:30
> pm, when the HOV lanes are restricted. Drive west
> or south from DC and you will see that many people
> leave the office at 3 pm, they must start at 6
> am.
>
> So yes, 4:00 is in rush hour around here.
Thanks, so in that case earlier bus schedule would make no difference since early rush starts at 6 am. Unless that is you bus before 6 am.
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> Rush hour in Virginia officially begins at 3:30
> pm, when the HOV lanes are restricted. Drive west
> or south from DC and you will see that many people
> leave the office at 3 pm, they must start at 6
> am.
>
> So yes, 4:00 is in rush hour around here.
Thanks, so in that case earlier bus schedule would make no difference since early rush starts at 6 am. Unless that is you bus before 6 am.
Re: Why were so many school buses late today?
Posted by:
Seriously?
()
Date: September 09, 2015 09:20AM
bus before 6 am Wrote:
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> Rush Hour, the movie Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Rush hour in Virginia officially begins at 3:30
> > pm, when the HOV lanes are restricted. Drive
> west
> > or south from DC and you will see that many
> people
> > leave the office at 3 pm, they must start at 6
> > am.
> >
> > So yes, 4:00 is in rush hour around here.
>
>
> Thanks, so in that case earlier bus schedule would
> make no difference since early rush starts at 6
> am. Unless that is you bus before 6 am.
Do you really know anything about how the new schedule works?
Middle schoolers basically took over the early start times, so those buses are still on the road. Many, many elementary schools now start later because your Precious needed more beauty sleep. Correspondingly, they end later, which means their buses run later, which means little kids now sit in rush hour traffic, fucking things up for everyone.
Clearly, you were one of the SAHMs who had nothing better to do with her day except nag FCPS with your pet project, SLEEP. And all so Precious can text until 1 a.m. instead of midnight now...
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> Rush Hour, the movie Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Rush hour in Virginia officially begins at 3:30
> > pm, when the HOV lanes are restricted. Drive
> west
> > or south from DC and you will see that many
> people
> > leave the office at 3 pm, they must start at 6
> > am.
> >
> > So yes, 4:00 is in rush hour around here.
>
>
> Thanks, so in that case earlier bus schedule would
> make no difference since early rush starts at 6
> am. Unless that is you bus before 6 am.
Do you really know anything about how the new schedule works?
Middle schoolers basically took over the early start times, so those buses are still on the road. Many, many elementary schools now start later because your Precious needed more beauty sleep. Correspondingly, they end later, which means their buses run later, which means little kids now sit in rush hour traffic, fucking things up for everyone.
Clearly, you were one of the SAHMs who had nothing better to do with her day except nag FCPS with your pet project, SLEEP. And all so Precious can text until 1 a.m. instead of midnight now...
Re: Why were so many school buses late today?
Posted by:
Rush Hour
()
Date: September 09, 2015 09:22AM
Obviously, anyone who thinks rush hour starts at 5 p.m. hasn't been in the workforce for a long time.
Looking at you, SAHMs who created this SLEEP shit storm in the first place.
Looking at you, SAHMs who created this SLEEP shit storm in the first place.
Re: Why were so many school buses late today?
Posted by:
BrianSchoeneman
()
Date: September 09, 2015 09:30AM
Rush hour starts at 4pm? Wrote:
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> Not Happy Parent Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Glad you're happy about it. Thanks to the late
> > high school start times, my fourth-grader was
> on
> > the bus, in traffic, for an hour and a half
> this
> > afternoon and got home at 5:30 p.m.
> >
> > I will vote accordingly, too.
>
>
> Rush hour starts at 4pm? In Fairfax? really
> where? I would consider moving closer to your
> school. Even if rush hour doubled the travel time
> that means you live 45 min from your kids school -
> too far. Poor parent planning...
It starts around 3 if you have to get on 66 anywhere.
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> Not Happy Parent Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Glad you're happy about it. Thanks to the late
> > high school start times, my fourth-grader was
> on
> > the bus, in traffic, for an hour and a half
> this
> > afternoon and got home at 5:30 p.m.
> >
> > I will vote accordingly, too.
>
>
> Rush hour starts at 4pm? In Fairfax? really
> where? I would consider moving closer to your
> school. Even if rush hour doubled the travel time
> that means you live 45 min from your kids school -
> too far. Poor parent planning...
It starts around 3 if you have to get on 66 anywhere.
Re: Why were so many school buses late today?
Posted by:
Jeez grow up
()
Date: September 09, 2015 09:32AM
Firstly, adults that live in an area with three hour rush hours in the morning and evening have made that choice - dont blame the kids. Secondly, adults that live in and area where they dont have enough busses and schools to start classes all at once have made a choice - dont blame the kids.
The fact that 'middle school' has taken the early morning is the half-step measure to cut costs. Dont complain about that either. Kids getting up at 530-6am to get to school is absurd. At least its only middle school kids suffering now.
If you made the choice to live in this area educate yourself to the point where you can be employed with a flex schedule so you can 1. drive non-peak 2. raise your children.
For conservatives you guys sure cry and moan a lot about how hard your life is and how expensive caring for our kids is. Jeez grow up.
The fact that 'middle school' has taken the early morning is the half-step measure to cut costs. Dont complain about that either. Kids getting up at 530-6am to get to school is absurd. At least its only middle school kids suffering now.
If you made the choice to live in this area educate yourself to the point where you can be employed with a flex schedule so you can 1. drive non-peak 2. raise your children.
For conservatives you guys sure cry and moan a lot about how hard your life is and how expensive caring for our kids is. Jeez grow up.
Re: Why were so many school buses late today?
Posted by:
FFS
()
Date: September 09, 2015 10:01AM
No one is blaming the kids. We're blaming the idiots that voted for SLEEP, both parental and FCPS-based.
Hilarious that you assume people can pick and choose among "flex" jobs in this insanely expensive area. Either both parents are working or one parent makes a ton of cash to be able to live in Fairfax County, no "flex" involved.
We all moved here for the schools, just like you did, but I suspect you are now retired and it's not your problem anymore. So you sit in your rocking chair and wag your finger at people who are just trying to get a decent education for their children under FAR more expensive and traffic-congested environment than you had to face.
Hilarious that you assume people can pick and choose among "flex" jobs in this insanely expensive area. Either both parents are working or one parent makes a ton of cash to be able to live in Fairfax County, no "flex" involved.
We all moved here for the schools, just like you did, but I suspect you are now retired and it's not your problem anymore. So you sit in your rocking chair and wag your finger at people who are just trying to get a decent education for their children under FAR more expensive and traffic-congested environment than you had to face.
Re: Why were so many school buses late today?
Posted by:
poop!!!
()
Date: September 10, 2015 09:07PM
Wow. What a clusterfuck the past three days have been. You now have thousands of additional cars and buses navigating the roads at the height of the morning rush hour. Holy fuck. It took nearly 25 minutes to get from Hunter Mill Road to the Vienna metro today. Vale Road is now trashed; Sutton Road is trashed; Courthouse Road is trashed. VA Center Blvd. is trashed.
Re: Why were so many school buses late today?
Posted by:
No Parents Around
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Date: September 10, 2015 09:24PM
My friends daughter love it. She has an hour in the morning where the parents are gone to work and she can do anything.
Re: Why were so many school buses late today?
Posted by:
Black Man
()
Date: September 10, 2015 10:10PM
No Parents Around Wrote:
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> My friends daughter love it. She has an hour in
> the morning where the parents are gone to work and
> she can do anything.
How old is she?
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> My friends daughter love it. She has an hour in
> the morning where the parents are gone to work and
> she can do anything.
How old is she?
Re: Why were so many school buses late today?
Posted by:
Fucked everywhere
()
Date: September 10, 2015 10:15PM
poop!!! Wrote:
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> Wow. What a clusterfuck the past three days have
> been. You now have thousands of additional cars
> and buses navigating the roads at the height of
> the morning rush hour. Holy fuck. It took nearly
> 25 minutes to get from Hunter Mill Road to the
> Vienna metro today. Vale Road is now trashed;
> Sutton Road is trashed; Courthouse Road is
> trashed. VA Center Blvd. is trashed.
66, 50 and 395 into DC have all been fucked...and consistently too from about 7-10am. I'm pretty sure the ever-present horrendous traffic will be the thing that finally makes me give up and leave Fairfax.
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> Wow. What a clusterfuck the past three days have
> been. You now have thousands of additional cars
> and buses navigating the roads at the height of
> the morning rush hour. Holy fuck. It took nearly
> 25 minutes to get from Hunter Mill Road to the
> Vienna metro today. Vale Road is now trashed;
> Sutton Road is trashed; Courthouse Road is
> trashed. VA Center Blvd. is trashed.
66, 50 and 395 into DC have all been fucked...and consistently too from about 7-10am. I'm pretty sure the ever-present horrendous traffic will be the thing that finally makes me give up and leave Fairfax.