So the TV and newspaper puts enough pressure on Fairfax County that they finally fire a murderer years after the murder. Fine.

But ex-Officer Torres wasn't capable of orchestrating all the foot dragging and cover-up all this time. That took the active cooperation of high Fairfax County police and government officials.

Why isn't the United States Attorney investigating and prosecuting those officials for Obstruction of Justice? Sure, ex-Officer Torres committed murder, but he was doing what his bosses (and many residents of Fairfax County) want him to do. Otherwise they would have thrown him to the wolves immediately.

Instead the Fairfax County Police Department and Fairfax County Officials ACTIVELY PARTICIPATED IN A MASSIVE, YEARS LONG COVER-UP. Ignoring court orders to produce information.

JUSTICE DEMANDS THEY BE PROSECUTED. Obstruction of Justice is a FEDERAL CRIME. But our local officials, both police and local government, are in bed with the feds on more important matters. This is just a question of a insignificant murder by an expendable cop.

posing Wrote:
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> So the TV and newspaper puts enough pressure on
> Fairfax County that they finally fire a murderer
> years after the murder. Fine.
>
> But ex-Officer Torres wasn't capable of
> orchestrating all the foot dragging and cover-up
> all this time. That took the active cooperation of
> high Fairfax County police and government
> officials.
>
> Why isn't the United States Attorney investigating
> and prosecuting those officials for Obstruction of
> Justice? Sure, ex-Officer Torres committed murder,
> but he was doing what his bosses (and many
> residents of Fairfax County) want him to do.
> Otherwise they would have thrown him to the wolves
> immediately.
>
> Instead the Fairfax County Police Department and
> Fairfax County Officials ACTIVELY PARTICIPATED IN
> A MASSIVE, YEARS LONG COVER-UP. Ignoring court
> orders to produce information.
>
> JUSTICE DEMANDS THEY BE PROSECUTED. Obstruction of
> Justice is a FEDERAL CRIME. But our local
> officials, both police and local government, are
> in bed with the feds on more important matters.
> This is just a question of a insignificant murder
> by an expendable cop.



A prime example of a post by a know-nothing. By calling the ex-officer a "murderer" you are inferring that he has been charged or convicted of murder which he has not. You are also showing your stupidity because I doubt seriously that you know the elements of murder.

No-Nothing at all pal. Why has this case dragged on so long. As far as the Feds with a obstruction charge goes, The Commonwealth could have charged the entire FXCO PD Command staff some time back as well as Torres with obstruction of justice. Police Chiefs are appointed, The Commonwealth is elected. He's the #1 boss on who gets charged with a crime as a constitutional officer. So when is the Grand Jury going to hear the case?? If Fairfax keeps on dragging ass along , then I say FEDS GO For IT! Start locking some bad apples up!

You are right Torres is not been convicted of any crime and will stand before a Grand Jury .. " Some Day" .Or Maybe Not??. Sounds like "Good Luck Suckers" . We'll go from there.. after any Grand Jury , watching the case.

Oh Shit! I forgot! Fairfax County has a weak as hell "Board Of Stupidvisors"
And A "County Executive" which is a worthless political power. A "Toothless Dog"

Some day baby Fairfax will get Smart and become a city..Keeping all kinds of taxes hee, instead of sending em south to Richmond to hand out statewide. There will be a City council to make rules, and a Mayor in charge.. who can Fire any Police chiefs or other incompetent City Officials. Running the day to day affairs of the City Of Fairfax County! Or what ever they will call it. "Diversity City Va" "Democrat City" "Obama City Va."



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/16/2015 10:54PM by Double Action Jackson.

Let us be honest. The policy of FFX county police seems to be "fire the weapon then ask questions later." If FFX county was the ghettos of NY city then I might understand.

Off the top of my head I can list several examples. The kid who got shot and killed when leaving an IHOP parking lot. His crime was walking out on a check.

When FFX police busted a poker game. Cops shot and killed of one the guys because he moved toward a cabinet drawer.

A guy running AWAY from an officer after not stopping for the officer.

I'm all for officers protecting themselves and I know there is a split second to make the decision to fire, but to the average citizen it seems like FFX county officers are a little trigger happy.

Torres deserves to be killed in a fiery car crash or he can take the easy way out.
Attachments:

Shoot First.. Ask Questions Later.. Yes I would say that's True. But is it not standard police procedure in todays day and age, with all the military weapons given to police these days. So...

Don't forget you assholes.. Your "Civilians" To the FXCO police! To hell with your military ranks. Lt Gen?? ADM ? SGT Major? Col! Capt! Even Private Or just "Boot" ! What the hell is all that? Talk !! And What is USMC. USN, USA, USAF?? Anyway?? OR your medals earned for your heroism in combat..or Your service to this country! Your all just "Civilians" now . In the eyes of FXPD.

May I never hear another "Civilian" cop call other people "Civilians" Jesus! What disrespect to the US Military!

Cops Are Shooting at Anything Wrote:
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> Off the top of my head I can list several
> examples. The kid who got shot and killed when
> leaving an IHOP parking lot. His crime was
> walking out on a check.


Lets just start with this stupid statement. This shooting was in Alexandria City. The kid was shot by an Alexandria City officer. Had nothing to do with Fairfax County.


> When FFX police busted a poker game. Cops shot
> and killed of one the guys because he moved toward
> a cabinet drawer.


Really? This is strange, was this like in 1975 or something? Can you please post something here with evidence of what you claim? Because I have never heard of this one.


> A guy running AWAY from an officer after not
> stopping for the officer.


Again..never heard of this one either. Again, post some kind of evidence of what you claim.


Now I am not saying Fairfax County has not had some bad shootings. I can think of three of the top of my head that people got killed. Masters, the eye doctor, and the torres one that has been in the news. 37 shootings in 10 years for a department as big as Fairfax is not bad.

Here the one on the poker guy -

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/26/AR2006012602136.html

Salvatore J. Culosi Sr. still can't believe his son, a 37-year-old optometrist, was a suspected sports bookie. He can't believe a heavily armed SWAT team fatally shot his unarmed son, Salvatore J. Culosi Jr., outside his Fair Oaks home Tuesday night.

And Culosi can't believe that the SWAT team's sudden descent on his son, apparently causing one officer to accidentally fire a .45-caliber handgun once into his son's chest, is standard procedure for Fairfax County police conducting a search.

"We are outraged that current police protocol would ever allow something like this to happen," Culosi, 63, said last night. "The fact is that there was zero basis whatsoever for the officers involved to have any weapons drawn in this situation."

posing Wrote:
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> So the TV and newspaper puts enough pressure on
> Fairfax County that they finally fire a murderer
> years after the murder. Fine.
>
> But ex-Officer Torres wasn't capable of
> orchestrating all the foot dragging and cover-up
> all this time. That took the active cooperation of
> high Fairfax County police and government
> officials.
>
> Why isn't the United States Attorney investigating
> and prosecuting those officials for Obstruction of
> Justice? Sure, ex-Officer Torres committed murder,
> but he was doing what his bosses (and many
> residents of Fairfax County) want him to do.
> Otherwise they would have thrown him to the wolves
> immediately.
>
> Instead the Fairfax County Police Department and
> Fairfax County Officials ACTIVELY PARTICIPATED IN
> A MASSIVE, YEARS LONG COVER-UP. Ignoring court
> orders to produce information.
>
> JUSTICE DEMANDS THEY BE PROSECUTED. Obstruction of
> Justice is a FEDERAL CRIME. But our local
> officials, both police and local government, are
> in bed with the feds on more important matters.
> This is just a question of a insignificant murder
> by an expendable cop.


The feds have had the case themselves for how long? They have done what with it in that time? I am willing to bet the feds have already told the county they are taking no action but just have not announced it yet. The Martin case in Florida. It took the feds how long to say they were not filing charges even after "unofficial sources" released to the media there was no evidence for federal charges? It was like over a year.

Double Action Jackson Wrote:
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> No-Nothing at all pal. Why has this case dragged
> on so long. As far as the Feds with a obstruction
> charge goes, The Commonwealth could have charged
> the entire FXCO PD Command staff some time back as
> well as Torres with obstruction of justice. Police
> Chiefs are appointed, The Commonwealth is elected.
> He's the #1 boss on who gets charged with a crime
> as a constitutional officer. So when is the Grand
> Jury going to hear the case?? If Fairfax keeps on
> dragging ass along , then I say FEDS GO For IT!
> Start locking some bad apples up!
>
> You are right Torres is not been convicted of any
> crime and will stand before a Grand Jury .. " Some
> Day" .Or Maybe Not??. Sounds like "Good Luck
> Suckers" . We'll go from there.. after any Grand
> Jury , watching the case.


According to the Washington Post, Grand Jury has already heard most of the evidence and is meeting again ( either this week or next-sorry don't recall) to finish. So stay tuned for news release on what the jury decides.

Here's another one from 2009 - Officer was found to be at fault again -

http://wtop.com/fairfax-county/2015/05/dashcam-video-released-2009-officer-involved-shooting-fairfax-county/

The involved officer was found to be in administrative violation of the Police Department’s General Order 540.1, Use of Force, and is no longer a member of the Fairfax County Police Department. I recognize the value of releasing the video to the community we proudly serve.”

First One Wrote:
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> Here the one on the poker guy -
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic
> le/2006/01/26/AR2006012602136.html
>
> Salvatore J. Culosi Sr. still can't believe his
> son, a 37-year-old optometrist, was a suspected
> sports bookie. He can't believe a heavily armed
> SWAT team fatally shot his unarmed son, Salvatore
> J. Culosi Jr., outside his Fair Oaks home Tuesday
> night.
>
> And Culosi can't believe that the SWAT team's
> sudden descent on his son, apparently causing one
> officer to accidentally fire a .45-caliber handgun
> once into his son's chest, is standard procedure
> for Fairfax County police conducting a search.
>
> "We are outraged that current police protocol
> would ever allow something like this to happen,"
> Culosi, 63, said last night. "The fact is that
> there was zero basis whatsoever for the officers
> involved to have any weapons drawn in this
> situation."

Culosi was the eye doctor case I mentioned. And did you even read what you posted? Culosi was not at a gambling game reaching for a drawer like the above dumb ass poster claimed IF that is the case he was talking about. Culosi was bookie standing in his driveway when he was shot.

Again...one of the bad three I listed.

Another One Wrote:
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> Here's another one from 2009 - Officer was found
> to be at fault again -
>
> http://wtop.com/fairfax-county/2015/05/dashcam-vid
> eo-released-2009-officer-involved-shooting-fairfax
> -county/
>
> The involved officer was found to be in
> administrative violation of the Police
> Department’s General Order 540.1, Use of Force,
> and is no longer a member of the Fairfax County
> Police Department. I recognize the value of
> releasing the video to the community we proudly
> serve.”

And this would be the Masters case....the first case of the three I listed. I guess you are going to name Greer or however the name is spelled. And this would be the third case, the torres one, I listed.

The Fairfax PD has been around for over 75 years and has shot less than 40 people.

That's a Tuesday in the LAPD.

Just perspective that's all.

Pussy bitches Wrote:
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> The Fairfax PD has been around for over 75 years
> and has shot less than 40 people.
>
> That's a Tuesday in the LAPD.
>
> Just perspective that's all.

why would you compare Fairfax PD to LAPD, or Virginia to California. That's like comparing White pussy to black pussy. You should travel more before you open your cock holster.

Pussy bitches Wrote:
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> The Fairfax PD has been around for over 75 years
> and has shot less than 40 people.
>
> That's a Tuesday in the LAPD.
>
> Just perspective that's all.


I'm sure that's a huge comfort to the 40 people who they've shot, and their families.

The key guy here is Senator Charles Grassley. Fairfax would still be stonewalling if Grassley hadn't stepped in. That's when the shit hit the fan.

It is extremely rare for a U.S. Senator to involve him or herself in a local matter, even more so if the matter does not involve the State that sent him or her to Washington.

Thank you, Senator Grassley.

Oooooh, sick burn fucktard.

Why would I compare? Because Fairfax County is the 10th most populated area in the country and traditionally the wealthiest in the country. It has the largest concentration of people in the DC metro area, and the department has managed to pop people at considerably less of a frequency than say, oh I don't know, DC or PG county. But 15 year old Dickless wonders like you act like you live in a fucking ghetto while you drive your mom's Prius over to the local caribou coffee and debate how you are gonna score weed that day. I'm no PD apologist by any means, I've just lived here for 30 years and never dealt once with a cop because I follow (most) laws and don't cry like a bitch on 911 when I don't get my way.

And bitch please, spare me the travel lecture. Did three tours in the Middle East, not that I have to prove myself to some faceless bitch in a forum who never stood up for shit.

But by all means, flex your badass forum muscles. Fuck off tough guy.

okay so Wrote:
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>
>
> I'm sure that's a huge comfort to the 40 people
> who they've shot, and their families.


Maybe their family should have raised them better, say to do what a cop tells you, and it wouldn't have happened in the first place.

Thought Wrote:
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> okay so Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> >
> > I'm sure that's a huge comfort to the 40 people
> > who they've shot, and their families.
>
>
> Maybe their family should have raised them better,
> say to do what a cop tells you, and it wouldn't
> have happened in the first place.

Or maybe a spic pig shouldn't have shot an unarmed man standing in his own doorway you stupid fucktard.

BobTurley Wrote:
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> posing Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > So the TV and newspaper puts enough pressure on
> > Fairfax County that they finally fire a
> murderer
> > years after the murder. Fine.
> >
> > But ex-Officer Torres wasn't capable of
> > orchestrating all the foot dragging and
> cover-up
> > all this time. That took the active cooperation
> of
> > high Fairfax County police and government
> > officials.
> >
> > Why isn't the United States Attorney
> investigating
> > and prosecuting those officials for Obstruction
> of
> > Justice? Sure, ex-Officer Torres committed
> murder,
> > but he was doing what his bosses (and many
> > residents of Fairfax County) want him to do.
> > Otherwise they would have thrown him to the
> wolves
> > immediately.
> >
> > Instead the Fairfax County Police Department
> and
> > Fairfax County Officials ACTIVELY PARTICIPATED
> IN
> > A MASSIVE, YEARS LONG COVER-UP. Ignoring court
> > orders to produce information.
> >
> > JUSTICE DEMANDS THEY BE PROSECUTED. Obstruction
> of
> > Justice is a FEDERAL CRIME. But our local
> > officials, both police and local government,
> are
> > in bed with the feds on more important matters.
> > This is just a question of a insignificant
> murder
> > by an expendable cop.
>
>
>
> A prime example of a post by a know-nothing.
> By calling the ex-officer a "murderer" you are
> inferring that he has been charged or convicted of
> murder which he has not. You are also showing
> your stupidity because I doubt seriously that you
> know the elements of murder.

2nd degree murder, bitch. He's guilty and so are the other cops there guilty of accessory to murder, but it looks like they won't get charged. The higher-ups finally decided they had to hand over the Spic to make it go away.

So VA murder code section on murder 2 from what I can gather, requires "malice."

How exactly can they prove that here? Shit the guy even said "sorry" when he fired. Not exactly malicious.

So you throw out big words like spic and even steal another poster's "fucktard."

How about you come up with something original and I will give you the time of day shitstain?

Questionz Wrote:
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> So VA murder code section on murder 2 from what I
> can gather, requires "malice."
>
> How exactly can they prove that here? Shit the
> guy even said "sorry" when he fired. Not exactly
> malicious.

Shooting an unarmed man after holding a gun on him for the better part of an hour is prima facie evidence of malice. I would have gone for 1st degree (premeditation) and bargained down to 2nd. They'll probably bargain it down to manslaughter for the Spic and the non-Spics on scene won't suffer at all, but they're just as guilty.

Mike O'Meara Show Fan Wrote:
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.
>
> Shooting an unarmed man after holding a gun on him
> for the better part of an hour is prima facie
> evidence of malice. I would have gone for 1st
> degree (premeditation) and bargained down to 2nd.
> They'll probably bargain it down to manslaughter
> for the Spic and the non-Spics on scene won't
> suffer at all, but they're just as guilty.

If you say so.....

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/malice

Not sure how that's prima facia evidence of a malicious intent.

wPussy yea but Wrote:
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> Oooooh, sick burn fucktard.
>
> Why would I compare? Because Fairfax County is
> the 10th most populated area in the country and
> traditionally the wealthiest in the country. It
> has the largest concentration of people in the DC
> metro area, and the department has managed to pop
> people at considerably less of a frequency than
> say, oh I don't know, DC or PG county. But 15
> year old Dickless wonders like you act like you
> live in a fucking ghetto while you drive your
> mom's Prius over to the local caribou coffee and
> debate how you are gonna score weed that day. I'm
> no PD apologist by any means, I've just lived here
> for 30 years and never dealt once with a cop
> because I follow (most) laws and don't cry like a
> bitch on 911 when I don't get my way.
>
> And bitch please, spare me the travel lecture.
> Did three tours in the Middle East, not that I
> have to prove myself to some faceless bitch in a
> forum who never stood up for shit.
>
> But by all means, flex your badass forum muscles.
> Fuck off tough guy.


Nigga Please! The only thing you did during your three tours was experiment with gay sex on base. The only thing you learned was you like black dick. I never said Fairfax was ghetto, the opposite. Now shut your cock holster faggot.

Questionz Wrote:
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> Mike O'Meara Show Fan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> .
> >
> > Shooting an unarmed man after holding a gun on
> him
> > for the better part of an hour is prima facie
> > evidence of malice. I would have gone for 1st
> > degree (premeditation) and bargained down to
> 2nd.
> > They'll probably bargain it down to
> manslaughter
> > for the Spic and the non-Spics on scene won't
> > suffer at all, but they're just as guilty.
>
> If you say so.....
>
> http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/malice
>
> Not sure how that's prima facia evidence of a
> malicious intent.

2. Law. evil intent on the part of a person who commits a wrongful act injurious to others.

That's from your source. The Spic didn't shoot him to say ''I love you''. Nigger please! Grownups and big dick Iraq veterans are talking. I'll do your thinking for you but I draw the line at wiping you.

yea but Wrote:
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> wPussy yea but Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Oooooh, sick burn fucktard.
> >
> > Why would I compare? Because Fairfax County is
> > the 10th most populated area in the country and
> > traditionally the wealthiest in the country.
> It
> > has the largest concentration of people in the
> DC
> > metro area, and the department has managed to
> pop
> > people at considerably less of a frequency than
> > say, oh I don't know, DC or PG county. But 15
> > year old Dickless wonders like you act like you
> > live in a fucking ghetto while you drive your
> > mom's Prius over to the local caribou coffee
> and
> > debate how you are gonna score weed that day.
> I'm
> > no PD apologist by any means, I've just lived
> here
> > for 30 years and never dealt once with a cop
> > because I follow (most) laws and don't cry like
> a
> > bitch on 911 when I don't get my way.
> >
> > And bitch please, spare me the travel lecture.
> > Did three tours in the Middle East, not that I
> > have to prove myself to some faceless bitch in
> a
> > forum who never stood up for shit.
> >
> > But by all means, flex your badass forum
> muscles.
> > Fuck off tough guy.
>
>
> Nigga Please! The only thing you did during your
> three tours was experiment with gay sex on base.
> The only thing you learned was you like black
> dick. I never said Fairfax was ghetto, the
> opposite. Now shut your cock holster faggot.

bump

Let's get this thread back on topic.

The fuckers been indicted. He might go to trial is the press keeps the issue allive long enough to keep it from being swept under the rug.

My guess the Commonwealth Attorney will offer him a plea something along the lines of he agrees to keep his mouth shut about his superiors involvement in the attempted cover-up. In exchange he gets all charges dropped, restoration of all pay and allowances, he can work raping prisoners at ADC whenever he wants and full retirement because of PTSD. He also won't be allowed to perform police work for six months except at ADC.

What about the cover-up people? The entire Fairfax County police leadership was in on this one. That's obstruction!

I heard today on WTOP Torres fainted at his hearing, The judge said he turned himself in and is living with family in Culpepper, as if he was going to let him off easy with bond , but due to the seriousness of the crime may be denied bond and his next hearing is not till December.

So did he get out on bond??

>The entire Fairfax County police leadership was in on this one. That's obstruction!

Probably a lot of truth in that, stupid really, not giving the Commonwealth the info he needed when he asked for it. Who the hell do they think they are?

That's right I forgot . Cops are under a Board of Stupidvisors instead of a elected Mayor in charge of a city. No ones really in charge, but the Cops!

IF THEY CAN'T TAKE A JOKE...I'M FUCKED!

>Maybe their family should have raised them better, say to do what a cop tells you, and it wouldn't have happened in the first place.

Ya Ya I will agree, keep your mouth shut with police, just do as they command you and yes you will be in a lot better shape then resisting or making some stupid stand.

But people have had their brains blown out because they had a light out, were stopped by police and as they went for the glove box to get the registration slipped their left hand grip on the wheel and fell over fast toward the open glove box. Fast enough for the cop to shoot them thinking they were going for a gun.


Ok Ok ..So I made that Bullshit up ^^.. but it could happen, the way things are going. So No your proper "upbringing" may not help. And I would not be surprised if it has happened.

THAT one was 100% right.

Let me get this straight. Torres had the man at gunpoint for an hour. Protocol would have activated the SWAT team to respond immediately. My question is this? Who was the supervisor in charge that decided to allow Torres to stand there with his weapon drawn for an hour? Why was he not relieved by a SWAT team member? Try to hold your pistol up for an hour. It gets really heavy. I am not giving Torres a pass by any means. But why wouldn't Torres get relieved. I know why. Inept supervision. That is why the cover up took so long. So who was in charge that day? Gun Lee? He was in charge of the investigation? Where is the culpability of the Police Department and Chief Special Ed?

yea but Wrote:
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> wPussy yea but Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Oooooh, sick burn fucktard.
> >
> > Why would I compare? Because Fairfax County is
> > the 10th most populated area in the country and
> > traditionally the wealthiest in the country.
> It
> > has the largest concentration of people in the
> DC
> > metro area, and the department has managed to
> pop
> > people at considerably less of a frequency than
> > say, oh I don't know, DC or PG county. But 15
> > year old Dickless wonders like you act like you
> > live in a fucking ghetto while you drive your
> > mom's Prius over to the local caribou coffee
> and
> > debate how you are gonna score weed that day.
> I'm
> > no PD apologist by any means, I've just lived
> here
> > for 30 years and never dealt once with a cop
> > because I follow (most) laws and don't cry like
> a
> > bitch on 911 when I don't get my way.
> >
> > And bitch please, spare me the travel lecture.
> > Did three tours in the Middle East, not that I
> > have to prove myself to some faceless bitch in
> a
> > forum who never stood up for shit.
> >
> > But by all means, flex your badass forum
> muscles.
> > Fuck off tough guy.
>
>
> Nigga Please! The only thing you did during your
> three tours was experiment with gay sex on base.
> The only thing you learned was you like black
> dick. I never said Fairfax was ghetto, the
> opposite. Now shut your cock holster faggot.

yea buddy Wrote:
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> Let me get this straight. Torres had the man at
> gunpoint for an hour. Protocol would have
> activated the SWAT team to respond immediately.
> My question is this? Who was the supervisor in
> charge that decided to allow Torres to stand there
> with his weapon drawn for an hour? Why was he not
> relieved by a SWAT team member? Try to hold your
> pistol up for an hour. It gets really heavy. I am
> not giving Torres a pass by any means. But why
> wouldn't Torres get relieved. I know why. Inept
> supervision. That is why the cover up took so
> long. So who was in charge that day? Gun Lee? He
> was in charge of the investigation? Where is the
> culpability of the Police Department and Chief
> Special Ed?

Good questions. The police on scene handled this wrong from start to finish but will never be held accountable.
They watched Torres blast this guy then refused to enter the home to plug Geer's wound and refused to let his father and friend on scene help too.
Those cops are shameful cowards. They are just as responsible as Torres. That's why they were glad to testify that Torres acted wrongly. The blue wall closed in around Torres that day to hide the shame of the other cops.

> Good questions. The police on scene handled this
> wrong from start to finish but will never be held
> accountable.

Screw the police on the scene.

Cut off Leviathan's head.

The key guy Wrote:
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> The key guy here is Senator Charles Grassley.
> Fairfax would still be stonewalling if Grassley
> hadn't stepped in. That's when the shit hit the
> fan.
>
> It is extremely rare for a U.S. Senator to involve
> him or herself in a local matter, even more so if
> the matter does not involve the State that sent
> him or her to Washington.
>
> Thank you, Senator Grassley.

That's because Congress is so totally ineffective, they have started sticking their noses into things they know nothing about to look like they are busy.

Pussy yea but Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Oooooh, sick burn fucktard.
>
> Why would I compare? Because Fairfax County is
> the 10th most populated area in the country and
> traditionally the wealthiest in the country. It
> has the largest concentration of people in the DC
> metro area, and the department has managed to pop
> people at considerably less of a frequency than
> say, oh I don't know, DC or PG county. But 15
> year old Dickless wonders like you act like you
> live in a fucking ghetto while you drive your
> mom's Prius over to the local caribou coffee and
> debate how you are gonna score weed that day. I'm
> no PD apologist by any means, I've just lived here
> for 30 years and never dealt once with a cop
> because I follow (most) laws and don't cry like a
> bitch on 911 when I don't get my way.
>
> And bitch please, spare me the travel lecture.
> Did three tours in the Middle East, not that I
> have to prove myself to some faceless bitch in a
> forum who never stood up for shit.
>
> But by all means, flex your badass forum muscles.
> Fuck off tough guy.

I like this, so true. Too many pimple popper, candy asses on here brother.

yea but Wrote:
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> wPussy yea but Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Oooooh, sick burn fucktard.
> >
> > Why would I compare? Because Fairfax County is
> > the 10th most populated area in the country and
> > traditionally the wealthiest in the country.
> It
> > has the largest concentration of people in the
> DC
> > metro area, and the department has managed to
> pop
> > people at considerably less of a frequency than
> > say, oh I don't know, DC or PG county. But 15
> > year old Dickless wonders like you act like you
> > live in a fucking ghetto while you drive your
> > mom's Prius over to the local caribou coffee
> and
> > debate how you are gonna score weed that day.
> I'm
> > no PD apologist by any means, I've just lived
> here
> > for 30 years and never dealt once with a cop
> > because I follow (most) laws and don't cry like
> a
> > bitch on 911 when I don't get my way.
> >
> > And bitch please, spare me the travel lecture.
> > Did three tours in the Middle East, not that I
> > have to prove myself to some faceless bitch in
> a
> > forum who never stood up for shit.
> >
> > But by all means, flex your badass forum
> muscles.
> > Fuck off tough guy.
>
>
> Nigga Please! The only thing you did during your
> three tours was experiment with gay sex on base.
> The only thing you learned was you like black
> dick. I never said Fairfax was ghetto, the
> opposite. Now shut your cock holster faggot.

I was raised in an American where we were proud to allow ten guilty people to go free to ensure that no innocent person is imprisoned. That is no longer the case. The police attitude is it's too bad if we kill and harass hundreds of innocents as long as we get all the criminals.

Too bad. We've become a facist civilization. And Fairfax County is at the epicenter.

Too bad. Washington and George Mason would not be happy with what we have become.

Sic semper tyrannis

Look, I'm indifferent when it comes to the police here or anywhere. You get good cops and bad cops in every department, no different than good/bad lawyers or politicians. Obviously Torres was a bad cop.

And yes I get that most of you hate cops. Fine. Whatever your reasons, they are your reasons. It's all the rage these days so whatever. I could care less. I have one speeding ticket in my life and I was doing over 50 in a 35 so yeah I had it coming. I just paid it and moved on with life and didn't bitch about cops all day. Guy did his job and I slow down because of it.

Just seems to me that the other cops there did what we should expect them to do. They told the truth and didn't try to cover up for one of their own. They all could have lied and this entire case would have ended right there. No grand jury, no indictment, no nothing. At least the other fairfax cops did the right thing and told the truth even though it hung their buddy out to dry basically. Most departments the "blue wall" would have ended this before it began. Even if his family said he didn't do anything. A bunch of cops saying he did trumps that and we all know it.

And I don't know why they didn't go in to help him but I am guessing it's because he had guns, said he would shoot them if they came inside, and well, they shot him, so I assume they figured he was pretty pissed off. I personally wouldn't run into a house with a pissed off guy with a gun who I just shot either but I guess I'm just a pussy and all you guys complaining about it would have run in there, plugged his wound, de armed him, saved his life, calmed him down, made him dinner and gave him a handy so he would feel better I guess.

Its not about how many or few people have been shot by the cops, its how the department reacts afterward. Going on full defense mode is unacceptable. Its one thing to support your officers, but its another to lie, cover up, and obstruct justice while protecting the officer

According to the Ashley Madison list on FfX underground, Adam Torres is listed at his former Manassas address, 9471 Stonewall Rd. The real estate assessment records match.

bullseye Wrote:
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> Its not about how many or few people have been
> shot by the cops, its how the department reacts
> afterward. Going on full defense mode is
> unacceptable. Its one thing to support your
> officers, but its another to lie, cover up, and
> obstruct justice while protecting the officer


True-but my point is, the cops that were there didn't lie. They told the truth as to what they saw.

As for the department, they have to do an investigation like any other killing case. That doesn't just happen in a week. Now granted, it doesn't take 2 years either. They should have moved forward more quickly but they didn't. To me that's on the higher ups, not on the cops on the street.

Read Huffington post about Torres, funny.