We would have fucked with them mercilessly and dared them to challenge us. lol

Hopefully there still are some kids out there with the balls (no gender-sensitive offense intended) to do it now.

Yeah, probably would, because they were transphobic bigoted fucks. Social progress and the acceptance of those who are different is always a good thing.

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> Yeah, probably would, because they were
> transphobic bigoted fucks. Social progress and the
> acceptance of those who are different is always a
> good thing.


No, we just weren't all brainwashed with the PC bullshit.

Admin wasn't either. They would have called us on our bullshit and just thrown our asses out.

These days it would be an absolute field day for any smart kids who wanted to fuck with the system. lol

It's not political correctness, it's basic respect and human rights.

We used to beat the shit out of faggots. I remember pounding them bloody and chasing them as they ran screaming. A tranny would have been gutted like a fucking deer. And the police responded properly back then - they didn't.

Ethan, how do you consider catering to the feelings of freaks to be progressive?

Holy fuck, you beat the shit out of "faggots"? You are a homophobe of incredible proportions. That is SICKENING.

They are not "freaks" just because they're different from you. And even if they were "freaks", that isn't any reason to kill them or beat them or deny them rights.

You are the problem and the entire reason this kind of policy had to be put into place in the first place.

Ethan Parker Wrote:
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> It's not political correctness, it's basic respect
> and human rights.


It's pandering bullshit by bureaucrats some of which have similarly bought into the PC stupidity pushed by the gay mafia and/or are terrified of being sued and/or afraid of losing Federal money.

Makes me wish that I still was in school to take complete advantage of it. lol

There is no such thing as the gay mafia.

And you haven't even addressed my points.

What's sickening is your attempt to put this shit of our children in an effort to promote your twisted agenda. Fuck around me with me, and I'll hurt you. Attempt to harm my child and I'll kill you.

I am not attempting to harm your child. I am attempting to actively prevent the harm of trans children and of children in general.

And how is it a twisted agenda to guarantee that people are assured their rights? I am trying to comprehend that idea and I think am literally unable to do so.

People are born male or female for a reason...except for very rare cases where birth-defects do not produce normal male or female genitals. In almost 100% of cases, no one forces a male or female to undergo sex change operations. The whole business of trans-genderism is a form of perversion. That is not bigotry or phobia....simply stating a fact.

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> There is no such thing as the gay mafia.
>
> And you haven't even addressed my points.


Even gays like Andrew Sullivan understand the concept of the gay mafia.

You've made no points.

That is exactly what bigotry is. This is not perversion. In fact, it has nothing to do with being sexual. Trans people in fact HATE THEIR OWN GENITALIA most of the time, and will not at all want to use it for sex as doing so feels self-invalidating.

It doesn't mean anyone else is sexually harassed or abused, and expressing oneself as their true gender isn't inherently sexual, so there is no perversion in being trans.

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> > There is no such thing as the gay mafia.
> >
> > And you haven't even addressed my points.
>
>
> Even gays like Andrew Sullivan understand the
> concept of the gay mafia.
>
> You've made no points.



The closest thing to a "gay mafia" is people advocating for gay rights. And that isn't at all mafia-like.

I have made points about the humanity and mistreatment of LGBT people. You have ignored them.

It is an agenda to advocate the positioning of mentally ill individuals displaying abhorrent behavior in front of school age children in an effort to normalize such behaviors and displays. Their need for "rights" based on nothing more than feelings that the rest of us neither have nor agree with are of little importance when it comes to the proper care and raising of children. Trannies are not normal, cannot be role models, and are not wanted in the presence of our children by all parents.

With rights come responsibilities. A guy in a dress - and it's obvious to all what it is - is not what should be around children at any time. Children need to be taught. ISIS is teaching children to kill and crucify. Children are sponges who absorb all around. What they see demonstrated as acceptable can become acceptable in their minds. I've made clear to my kid that no one has two mommies or two daddies - we got over that nonsense shit the first time it popped up. She's in a private school where such things are not permissible. And she understands that men are men and women are women - and that's unchangeable.

A child's rights to a good upbringing trumps the rights of the freaks to express their feelings.

Please explain to me exactly how and why you consider this to be abhorrent, KEEPING IN MIND that gender and biological sex are not the same thing, do not always correspond with each other, and that gender trumps sex.

Your argument does not apply because we are not discussing guys in dresses. There are people with two mommies or two daddies. That does exist. You are LYING to your child. That is acceptable. How the fuck could it not be acceptable? So because I'm bisexual I can't marry another guy? How the fuck is that okay to deny someone something like that?

They are NOT freaks, so that last statement doesn't apply here, regardless of how true it may or may not be.

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> > > There is no such thing as the gay mafia.
> > >
> > > And you haven't even addressed my points.
> >
> >
> > Even gays like Andrew Sullivan understand the
> > concept of the gay mafia.
> >
> > You've made no points.
>
>
>
> The closest thing to a "gay mafia" is people
> advocating for gay rights. And that isn't at all
> mafia-like.


Which in its most vehement form has been labeled the "gay mafia" even by other gays who don't agree with the tactics employed by it.


>
> I have made points about the humanity and
> mistreatment of LGBT people. You have ignored
> them.


Which is off-point to the topic of this being a clusterfuck of a policy just begging for kids to fuck with. lol

Fine, it's a "gay mafia". The name still isn't representative.

Anyway, the mistreating LGBT kids thing is LITERALLY the topic... and you were the first one to bring it up in this thread. Why do you think it is okay to kill or bully trans kids?



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> Fine, it's a "gay mafia". The name still isn't
> representative.


Representative enough for other gays who don't agree with the approach to use it. Good enough for me.

>
> Anyway, the mistreating LGBT kids thing is
> LITERALLY the topic... and you were the first one
> to bring it up in this thread. Why do you think it
> is okay to kill or bully trans kids?


No, LITERALLY the topic is this clusterfuck of a pandering policy whether straight male, female, LGBT, agender, or whatever.

And now you want to go off on some other tangent about killing kids. lmao

Whatever. In any case, I'm not seeing any problem with the policy. It's just guaranteeing trans students and staff get the same rights as non-trans students and staff. There's nothing wrong with doing that.

you're both morons.

to the troglodyte homophobic moron, shut the fuck up. you couldn't fight your way out of a wet paper bag, and if you try you're going to get owned by the first "faggot" you cross. go lose 50 pounds and get back to me.

to the other moron, there's absolutely a problem with the policy. you can't send boys into a girls' bathroom regardless of gender identity. that's not fair to the girls. that's stunningly obvious to everybody who has the capacity to take a step back and contemplate social reality. you need a third bathroom for this to work. i have no problem protecting the transgender kids by giving them a facility, but you can't install this policy responsibly until you've figured out a way to handle it in reality.

now if you're just trolling, then carry on. if you actually believe the bullshit you're both spewing, then you need to rethink.

I'm fine with gender-neutral restrooms. That works just fine. But I don't think many people would even know whether a girl going into the girls bathroom is trans or not, and either wouldn't care or if they were uncomfortable would just use a different bathroom.

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> > to the troglodyte homophobic moron, shut the fuck
> up. you couldn't fight your way out of a wet
> paper bag, and if you try you're going to get
> owned by the first "faggot" you cross. go lose 50
> pounds and get back to me.

You're not the first faggot I've met. I'd be the last fight you ever got into though, Nancy.

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> you're both morons.
>
> to the troglodyte homophobic moron, shut the fuck
> up. you couldn't fight your way out of a wet
> paper bag, and if you try you're going to get
> owned by the first "faggot" you cross. go lose 50
> pounds and get back to me.
>
> to the other moron, there's absolutely a problem
> with the policy. you can't send boys into a
> girls' bathroom regardless of gender identity.
> that's not fair to the girls. that's stunningly
> obvious to everybody who has the capacity to take
> a step back and contemplate social reality. you
> need a third bathroom for this to work. i have no
> problem protecting the transgender kids by giving
> them a facility, but you can't install this policy
> responsibly until you've figured out a way to
> handle it in reality.


^ Which is exactly what I was pointing out. Until and unless they do, then it's just begging for kids to fuck with just to make the point. Sending the "boys" and "girls" (whatever those terms may mean), to their respective bathrooms wasn't what was decided. But in that regard, since the administration these days is so utterly confused in knowing how to address such things and neutered by PC fears and of being sued, it would be a field day for anyone who wanted to screw with them in the meantime. Which we surely would have. lol

Ethan Parker Wrote:
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> I'm fine with gender-neutral restrooms. That works
> just fine. But I don't think many people would
> even know whether a girl going into the girls
> bathroom is trans or not, and either wouldn't care
> or if they were uncomfortable would just use a
> different bathroom.

Why should a real woman have to find another facility? Keep the guys out of the ladies room. There's no such thing as transsexual - just sick freaks who don't know how to behave in public.

I think it's honestly fine if gender-neutral bathrooms are what are necessary for this.

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> > I'm fine with gender-neutral restrooms. That
> works
> > just fine. But I don't think many people would
> > even know whether a girl going into the girls
> > bathroom is trans or not, and either wouldn't
> care
> > or if they were uncomfortable would just use a
> > different bathroom.
>
> Why should a real woman have to find another
> facility? Keep the guys out of the ladies room.
> There's no such thing as transsexual - just sick
> freaks who don't know how to behave in public.

You are literally not even wrong. You are worse than wrong. Trans people are not freaks.

Tranny threads are just useless without pictures.

No they are not. The vast majority of trans people look just like non-trans people. And no, porn isn't going to be at all informative or helpful.

There was a hot tranny giving massages in Arlington,wonder if he's still at it?

... Did you mean someone of the female gender, but male sex? If so, "she" is the right pronoun.

And how is that relevant to the rights of trans students?

Ethan Parker Wrote:
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> No they are not. The vast majority of trans people
> look just like non-trans people. And no, porn
> isn't going to be at all informative or helpful.

The other poster is right about calling it an it.

Not even close. One worked on our NGA project. We couldn't figure out how it was on an IC-related program, but somehow it was. And it was obvious it was a guy in drag.

It got all pissed when I addressed it as "dude" in meetings. I took advantage of my next opportunity to rotate out, which turned out very well for me. I heard that "Janet" didn't last long. No one was comfortable with it working there in restricted space.

Why call Janet a "dude" if she is female?

Again, using "it" is dehumanizing. There is NOTHING wrong with a trans person being themself. She was not a "guy in drag", she was a woman.

Please, don't be so hateful as to completely invalidate someone's identity and dehumanize them. It's just not okay. Even if she was just a "guy in drag", you could at least have the decency to humor her.

A few Hypothetical situations, presented here to Ethan and anyone else who cares to respond:

Tommy is a heterosexual biological male, who identifies with the male gender. Tommy claims female gender identity to exploit the current policy, simply to get to use the bathroom designated for female students and try to steal a glance or 10.There are obviously no objective "test" or manner in which one can determine the actual gender identity of another individual. What is/could be put in place to prevent exploitation of this policy, as stated above?


Tommy is a biological male who legitimately gender identifies as female. As a matter of personal preference, or circumstance (does not matter why), he maintains a masculine appearance. Under the policy, he is granted permission to use the bathroom designated for female students. What prevents the inevitable confusion and alarm of female students when Tommy walks in to the female bathroom? Switch Tommy for Tammy and the female bathroom for male - same basic situation is created. Do we post their pictures and names in each bathroom like fast food "Employee of the Month"?

It is myopic to assume that ones transition to identifying with their non-biological-by-birth gender has unilateral, and consistent "steps" where changing ones appearance is the cart that will always go before the "I want to use the other bathroom" horse. These are school aged kids - not post op, hormone therapied or fully mature adults who have necessarily fully embraced (outwardly in appearance) the alternate gender.

The first and second are both dealt with by a vetting system which makes sure such people really legitimately identify with a gender that does not correspond with their sex before they are allowed to use the facilities corresponding to their gender identity.

Oh and in the second one, Tommy (who, assumedly, has not changed her legal name yet) doesn't have to look like a man to have a masculine appearance. There are trans girl tomboys.

Who does FCPS will do the vetting? Ryan McElveen, school principal (some real winners there, think Nardos King), or some consultant (some real winners there, too, think Flip Flippen)?

What happens if a transgender person "fails" the vetting? How do we know this vetting is working properly if at all?

Or is this just going turn into another consulting free for all? People with online Ph.D.s and Ed.D.s and Psy.D.s all claiming to be experts? That's where the money will go.

Ethan Parker Wrote:
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> Why call Janet a "dude" if she is female?
>
> Again, using "it" is dehumanizing. There is
> NOTHING wrong with a trans person being themself.
> She was not a "guy in drag", she was a woman.
>
> Please, don't be so hateful as to completely
> invalidate someone's identity and dehumanize them.
> It's just not okay. Even if she was just a "guy in
> drag", you could at least have the decency to
> humor her.

It *was* a guy in drag.

What the fuck kind of world do you live in where "humoring" bizarre behavior is expected to justify abhorrent behavior? Are you that fucking disconnected from reality? Why should normal people modify their behavior to make freaks (and freaks by choice) feel better about themselves?

And how does one dehumanize that which has abandoned all humanity on it's own?

...We don't yet know who will do the vetting. There will of course be measures so that a truly trans person would not fail the vetting, and of course their privacy will be protected as well.

Again, we don't know the details yet, but I'm sure things will work out eventually, even if it is not under this school board.

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> > Why call Janet a "dude" if she is female?
> >
> > Again, using "it" is dehumanizing. There is
> > NOTHING wrong with a trans person being
> themself.
> > She was not a "guy in drag", she was a woman.
> >
> > Please, don't be so hateful as to completely
> > invalidate someone's identity and dehumanize
> them.
> > It's just not okay. Even if she was just a "guy
> in
> > drag", you could at least have the decency to
> > humor her.
>
> It *was* a guy in drag.
>
> What the fuck kind of world do you live in where
> "humoring" bizarre behavior is expected to justify
> abhorrent behavior? Are you that fucking
> disconnected from reality? Why should normal
> people modify their behavior to make freaks (and
> freaks by choice) feel better about themselves?
>
> And how does one dehumanize that which has
> abandoned all humanity on it's own?


Again, tell me how it is abhorrent or bizarre to be trans, keeping in mind the fact that gender and biological sex do not always correspond, that gender identity trumps biological sex, that trans people are not freaks by virtue of being trans, and that trans people have not abandoned humanity.

I'm afraid I'm not really going to be able to understand your point of view unless you do that, so if you want to convince me of this, here's your opportunity.

1) It is abhorrent and bizarre behavior. 100,000 of human evolution backs this up.

2) When the nonsensical idea of "gender identity" and biological sex do not match, it is proof of a psychological issue. See above.

3) Biological sex characteristics trump perceptions. Further proof of mental issues.

4) Trannies are freaks. Period.

5) That which does not act human is not human.

You have blatantly disregarded the points I have asked you to keep in mind.

WITHOUT blatantly disregarding the points I have asked you to keep in mind (I am treating what you have said above as such blatant disregard), can you explain your position?

Trans people certainly act like humans, as they are humans. They are members of the species homo sapiens, therefore they are humans by definition.

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> Who does FCPS will do the vetting? Ryan McElveen,
> school principal (some real winners there, think
> Nardos King), or some consultant (some real
> winners there, too, think Flip Flippen)?
>
> What happens if a transgender person "fails" the
> vetting? How do we know this vetting is working
> properly if at all?
>
> Or is this just going turn into another consulting
> free for all? People with online Ph.D.s and Ed.D.s
> and Psy.D.s all claiming to be experts? That's
> where the money will go.


Right.

So they're going to subject kids to some kind of trans inquisition? "OK little Johnny, let's see if you're queer enough to pee in the girls room." lol

Like I said... clusterfuck.

I guess it's a clusterfuck, but a necessary clusterfuck.

OK but how do we even start the clusterfuck? It'll take FCPS a year to line up consultants (largely because they did not budget for it). Another year for them to do whatever it is they do. The next year, by then, someone will organize a transgender bathroom conference, everyone will have to go.

A lot of money will get spent. When someone finally has recommendations FCPS won't have the money to implement them. It will be someone else's turn for money, the parks will need new picnic tables or something.

End result:

transgendered persons: 0

consultants: 1

Go to jail, do not pass go, do not collect a turf field or trolley car.

I'm not so sure. I think things will work out in the end. The current school board might not be competent enough to properly handle funding, but the policy will likely end up being properly implemented at least eventually.

Ethan, I really admire your spunk and persistence. These morons will wear you down if you let them. You've managed to keep your cool in the face of relentless fear mongering and ignorance. Kudos to you!

A word of caution - remember where you are. This board is not representative of Fairfax, since there is effectively no moderation. That means that the worst of the worst trolls have free reign here, and it can get really ugly. If the relentless negativity gets to be too much, please look for more positive outlets in which to share your viewpoints.

In the meantime, I'm enjoying your posts. You seem to be more mature than most of the people with whom you are engaging.

@Ethan Wrote:
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> Ethan, I really admire your spunk and persistence.
> These morons will wear you down if you let them.
> You've managed to keep your cool in the face of
> relentless fear mongering and ignorance. Kudos to
> you!
>
> A word of caution - remember where you are. This
> board is not representative of Fairfax, since
> there is effectively no moderation. That means
> that the worst of the worst trolls have free reign
> here, and it can get really ugly. If the
> relentless negativity gets to be too much, please
> look for more positive outlets in which to share
> your viewpoints.
>
> In the meantime, I'm enjoying your posts. You seem
> to be more mature than most of the people with
> whom you are engaging.


Thanks.

Next up in the FCPS cafeteria - or science lab.
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Heh. Actually to be pretty honest, the food served by the cafeterias in my high school isn't all that bad.

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> Heh. Actually to be pretty honest, the food served
> by the cafeterias in my high school isn't all that
> bad.


Unless you're Muslim and require halal.

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> > Heh. Actually to be pretty honest, the food
> served
> > by the cafeterias in my high school isn't all
> that
> > bad.
>
>
> Unless you're Muslim and require halal.

In which case you should bring your own OK-for-Islam food, because you can do that.




....Okay so why are we veering so far off topic again?

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> > > Heh. Actually to be pretty honest, the food
> > served
> > > by the cafeterias in my high school isn't all
> > that
> > > bad.
> >
> >
> > Unless you're Muslim and require halal.
>
> In which case you should bring your own
> OK-for-Islam food, because you can do that.
>
>
>
>
> ....Okay so why are we veering so far off topic
> again?


Not very accommodating.

I suppose then that TGs should just bring their own urine collection bags? "They can do that." Problem solved.

Or are TGs more special than Muslims?

That's not comparable. Sure they can do that. But that has nothing to do with being trans.

We're gonna need a lot of bathrooms!!!!!!!
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Do not pretend that is comparable.

The only problem I have with this is the idea that the trans think their needs are more important than 99+% of the population in the bathroom issues. Everybody else is supposed to give up their privacy and dignity rights, they are supposed to spend untold amounts of money to hire consultants, maybe do major renovations on buildings, in order to make them happy. The world revolves around them, apparently.

This is a very simple theory. If you feel uncomfortable in the bathroom that matches your genitalia for any reason (medical or psychological), everybody has the right to ask for a private bathroom. That is a simple, inexpensive solution. It does not require any consultants, lawsuits, building renovations, wild meetings, etc. And so that is exactly why I am going to send a note to our principals telling them that I want my non trans children accommodated or I will sue. Just like the trans parents. Because I want my children to go to the bathroom in the setting they feel most comfortable in, just like the trans. And that is a private bathroom. And I urge all the rest of you parents to do the same. And I simply do not grasp why the trans kids can't do this. We all have to adapt our expectations at some point, because we can't always expect everything to be just the way we want it.

This is not the same as integrating the schools. This is a matter of dignity, respect, and privacy regarding very personal functions. And the non trans kids should not have to give that up to make somebody else happy. When you have a gyn or prostate exam you have the right to have a person of the same sex in the room. Some women coming through hospitals for surgery specify all female staff in the operating room for religious reasons and insist on wearing their headgear throughout the process. We can do that for them. Because we realize it is like us walking down the street stark naked. Having somebody in the next stall or at the adjacent urinal with opposite genitalia is a very disturbing idea to my children and they are afraid and I don't blame them, and I don't think they should have to "adjust their expectations". So, accommodate them.

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> Do not pretend that is comparable.


You're right for once. It's not comparable. The disabled have actual physical limitations which require special accommodation vs hurt feelings and a need for attention.

Is it so hard to respect the gender of trans people?

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> It's not political correctness, it's basic respect
> and human rights


Human rights?? These "transgender" people you speak have serious deep seeded mental issues and they need to be taken out of public schools and put into a special program or something with other mentally ill people.

Having a transgendered or unisex bathroom is absolute lunacy, YOU are the one who has been brainwashed. Just think about for a minute, it's fucking crazy that we even had a board meeting over this.

You're contributing toward the destruction of America.

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> Is it so hard to respect the gender of trans
> people?


Is it so hard for TGs to deal with basic, relatively minor inconveniences faced by short, tall, fat, or other able-bodied people who are outside the norm without special accommodation which affects everyone else just to make them happy?

You are literally even worse than wrong. There is nothing wrong with having a gender-neutral bathroom.

So now you've backed off of wanting to force others to accommodate them in standard gender bathrooms as if they were 'normal' and treat them equally as anyone else to wanting special bathrooms. That's progress of a sort I suppose. Not considering the costs of special accommodations just for them of course at the expense of everyone else.

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> You are literally even worse than wrong. There is
> nothing wrong with having a gender-neutral
> bathroom.

Just as there's nothing "wrong" with a freckle bathroom, or a short bathroom, or a ginger bathroom, or a blue-eyed bathroom. What is wrong is expecting the taxpayer to fund all of this silly "feeling" shit. Where are all of these bathrooms going to go? And just to give trannies another place to suck dick?

Who gives a fuck how freaks feel?

...Honestly a private gender-neutral bathroom is a good idea regardless of trans rights.

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> ...Honestly a private gender-neutral bathroom is a
> good idea regardless of trans rights.


Most schools have a private handicap bathroom, they can use that bathroom. It fits perfectly as those transgender freaks are truly handicap.

True, a handicap/private bathroom works. Although that isn't exactly good reasoning for it, since being trans isn't a handicap.

...Now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure the only handicapped restroom is in my school nurse's office. o_O

just let it go so many issues with the schools and system this is nto a big deal luckily kids today are much more tolerant and kinder then some of the parents

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> Is it so hard to respect the gender of trans
> people?


Is it so hard for trannies and queers to respect the rest of us and not try shoving their beliefs in our faces? Homofagging is a sin. Its deplored by god. Queers are said to not be allowed to enter the glory of heaven. And, no, Satan doesn't have dildoes on the end of his pitchfork for your amusement. Its hell. You burn.
You want to preach your shit, than I'll preach mine.

Everyone please just ignore this little faggot Ethan. He's part of the problem with this country and not worthy or your time or respect.

How am I a part of any problem?

Ethan Parker Wrote:
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> You are literally even worse than wrong. There is
> nothing wrong with having a gender-neutral
> bathroom.


They don't want a gender neutral bathroom. They want to be in the bathroom with my kid, who has the opposite genitalia. You are obnoxious.

This is going to cost a fucking fortune.