THe STC will hold its grand (re-) opening Friday October 17. 65% of the stores are scheduled to open that weekend. The ribbon cutting is at 10:00am, but the first 200 people in line will receive STC giftcards ranging in value from $250 to $10. There will also be other giveaways and many surprises! I plan on camping out in my car there Thursday night 'coz I want a giftcard and will have my kids camping with me so they get giftcards too (they can miss school for one day!). Does anyone know where the ribbon cutting and givaways and other festivities will be taking place?

Alex - out...

Alex,
How soon after opening can I expect to get my car broken into or robbed?

Will there be anyone to translate from the malls native Spanish to English in case I want to buy something? Will these be regular stores or will I be expected to bargain the price like in Mexico? Will illegal drugs be available everywhere or have you set aside specific places?
Lastly
Where will the MS13 signup booth be located?

El registro ms-13 se encuentra en el patio de comidas al lado del bote de basura con el bebé muerto

I just want a gift card to Hong Kong or SpaceWay RaceWay.

I'll be there Friday night! I can't miss work for the opening, but I can't wait to the mall reopens. I saw the website has a few stores listed, but not all of them are up.

It will be so nice to have a brand new town center!

JoAnn Wrote:
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> I'll be there Friday night! I can't miss work for
> the opening, but I can't wait to the mall reopens.
> I saw the website has a few stores listed, but not
> all of them are up.
>
> It will be so nice to have a brand new town
> center!


JoAnn,
You really need a life. If you get there early enough, you might be able to snag some fame as the first women to get her purse stolen.

Lexie Wrote:
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> THe STC

You mean Springfield Mall?

Anyone know when the Chuy's restaurant will open?

I, for one, am looking forward to the new mall. It looks amazing in and out. The stores are nice and location is really coming together well. Also, I'm white, but I'm also fluent in Spanish and English with a smattering of French. So the Hispanics and I get a chance to openly mock the poor little racists who are too afraid of shopping around people of a different color. Too bad they won't understand us.

I've also read that some of the car dealerships in the middle of town are moving out to the fringes on loisdale. I can only hope that they will replace them with some sort of commercial incubator which will help support more locally owned businesses and small boutiques.

Springfield is on its way up. We just need to get the racists out of here and we will take off!

Show us your tits, OP. Every chick I know named Lexie has a great rack...

Just looked at their website. Looks like there's an awful lot of vacancies.

So far we have: LA Fitness, Crazy 8, Gymboree, Regal Cinemas, Dick's Sporting Goods, Champs, Chuy's, Footlocker, Yard House, Nordstrom Rack, Nando's, Bath and Body Works, Topshop, Forever 21, Sephora, Lids, Teavana, H&M, Maggianos, J. Crew, Ann Taylor LOFT, White House/Black Market, Charlotte Russe, Chico's, American Eagle Outfitters, Reed Jewelers, Soma, Cartoon Cuts, Mon Cheri Nails, Eyebrows, Springfield Therapeutic Massage, Target, Macy's, J.C. Penney's, Michael Kors, and more. Plus it houses the Springfield Farmers Market every Saturday. (Please, please go to this if you don't already. It is so important to support our local farming community)

Yes occupancy isn't 100%, but that is still a pretty darn good line-up. More will come as the success of the mall is proven. I know that I'll be supporting it 100% and doing everything I can to help it be successful.

Any pollo joints?

Listen, we all would love to have a great mall so close. And on paper this seems promising. But those of us who have been here 30+ years and have seen every iteration of Springfield Mall know that it starts out nice and exciting and pretty quickly turns to shit. If I'm being racist, it was first the white redneck thugs in the 70s and 80s who turned that mall to a pit. Now you can plug in whatever race you are against and blame them but it really just comes down to thugs.The area around the mall is Springfield. You can't take the Springfield out of Springfield.

I'm not hoping for it to fail. I'd love to be wrong. But I've seen this movie too many times.

NS 13 Wrote:
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> Any pollo joints?


What about nail salons and car title loan shops? We really need more of those. You know, serving the underserved and all that.

Where's Da Stores? Wrote:
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> Just looked at their website. Looks like there's
> an awful lot of vacancies.

The list on their Web site is woefully incomplete compared with the tenant lists published elsewhere.

The statement that gives me pause is that only two-thirds of the stores will be opening during the grand opening weekend.

I just went and got a roll of quarters so I'll be ready for Timeout with my Orange Julius. Any chance they are adding Another Universe and they overpriced baseball card store Batters Up? Can't wait to see all the old posters at Hong Kong.

I heard only a dozen or so stores will be opening next Friday (I don't count Target, JCP, or Macy's since they never closed). Other stores will open as they are ready. By Black Friday, they expect most tenants who have signed leases to open their stores or restaurants. Occupancy is currently 75%, but they expect to be at 90 - 95% by next spring.

The Children's Court and Food Court will have its grand opening on Saturday 10/18.

I am so looking forward to this new mall and getting a couple of $250 gift cards Friday morning will be encourage me to shop there for sure.

I need a new charger for my cell phone. Can I get that there?

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It's done.

They bet.

They lost.

Bring back that sketchy raver(?)store called Fusion for Springfield Town Center. I remember being bummed out back in '04-'05, returning to Spliff-field Mall & discovering that Fusion was no longer there.

No FBI = Done Wrote:
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> It's done.
>
> They bet.
>
> They lost.

Actually, this isn't accurate. Boston Properties has their private land out of the bid. The 50+ acres of GSA owned land is still in the running.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/digger/wp/2014/10/06/boston-properties-land-in-springfield-out-of-consideration-for-fbi-hq/

Springfield Native Wrote:
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> Listen, we all would love to have a great mall so
> close. And on paper this seems promising. But
> those of us who have been here 30+ years and have
> seen every iteration of Springfield Mall know that
> it starts out nice and exciting and pretty quickly
> turns to shit. If I'm being racist, it was first
> the white redneck thugs in the 70s and 80s who
> turned that mall to a pit. Now you can plug in
> whatever race you are against and blame them but
> it really just comes down to thugs.The area around
> the mall is Springfield. You can't take the
> Springfield out of Springfield.
>
> I'm not hoping for it to fail. I'd love to be
> wrong. But I've seen this movie too many times.



Are you publicly calling the legendary Douglas Funk a white redneck thug?

Just asking because I do not want to put words in your mouth.

S.Y. Wrote:
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> No FBI = Done Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > It's done.
> >
> > They bet.
> >
> > They lost.
>
> Actually, this isn't accurate. Boston Properties
> has their private land out of the bid. The 50+
> acres of GSA owned land is still in the running.
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/digger/wp/2014/
> 10/06/boston-properties-land-in-springfield-out-of
> -consideration-for-fbi-hq/


With even less of a realistic chance.

John Titor, time traveler extraordinaire, here. Just checking in to give you a news report from your future.


November 4, 2045 - Cuidad Autonoma de Espringfield - Local Commissar Jose Decaimiento cut the ribbon at the grand opening of the Espringfield Consumer District. His remarks were inspirational. "Today we celebrate not a re-opening or renovation of a local eyesore," Decaimiento gushed. "Today, we usher in a new era of economic growth for our beloved community!"

"For the past 25 years," he explained, "the surrounding and wealthy enclaves mocked us and shunned our down town center. Our bold, new Consumer District is a shining example of what Espringfield can be and is the heart of our ciudad's growth for the second half of this century!"

The Espringfield Consumer District features many premier tenants.

Restaurantes:

BUTTFUCKERS
T.J. O'Handjobs
L Pollo Borracho

Services:

FedExxx
Uhmerican Exxxpress

Boutiques and Cafes:
Starbucks Exotic Coffee for Men
Brawndo Cafe

I doubt it is going to be ready by Friday. I work in the area around springfield town center and they don't look complete. Heck, where the food court is supposed to be is bare.

LOL. I drove by there this morning. They'll have it good enough for their big opening day. The local organized crime syndicates politicians won't let their Potemkin Village miss its debutante ball.

The big question is when the not-so-new Springfield Mall will have its first violent crime. I wouldn't be surprised if it occurs before the end of 2014.

Everybody ought to hope this thing is successful. If the county can pull in more taxes for roads and schools, etc., it benefits everyone. If you want to see your taxes go up, hope for the downfall of STC.

This last poster sounds more like kool-aid drinker than an optimist.

springfield guy Wrote:
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> I doubt it is going to be ready by Friday. I work
> in the area around springfield town center and
> they don't look complete. Heck, where the food
> court is supposed to be is bare.

I can't figure out why they decided to tear up the roads just before they opened. The whole area still looks like a construction zone.

Will there be a DMV where todos los americanos nuevos can get their driver's licenses? Just like the one that was across the hall from Picture People?

Soy su representante amigable de MS-13 en el área de Springfield. Aquí está nuestro calendario de eventos que rodean la ciudad Springfield centro gran inauguración:

18 de octubre: Golpe Gringo hacia abajo.
20 de octubre: Auto marcado.
23 de octubre: Violar una gringa
24 de octubre: Robar un Lexus, BMW o Mercedes para el taller.
26 de octubre: Agarra a un niño para anillo de protesta.
31 de octubre: MS-13 gran multitud reuniendo para vencer a los gringos disfrazados.
2 de noviembre: Asesinato al azar en el estacionamiento del centro comercial.
5 de noviembre: Armas vendieron fuera de los troncos del coche en el lado norte del centro comercial.
6 de noviembre: Extorsión empresarial al azar.
Nov 10-15: banda iniciación en coche.
18 de Nov: Robos de elevación o vehículo de autos al azar.
20 de Nov: Distribución de los fármacos, lugar al azar.
22 de Nov: Puesto que somos hombres de verdad, nos absorberá los demás penes.

Esa es la lista de la MS-13 para el futuro cercano. Me complace publicar eventos en el futuro si así lo solicita.

Pablo
Tu barrio Mara Salvatrucha representante de Springfield, Virginia

YcMCv Wrote:
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> This last poster sounds more like kool-aid drinker
> than an optimist.

Just had some kool-aid last night. Great stuff. Love the purple kool-aid.

Quality Watcher Wrote:
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> I can't figure out why they decided to tear up the
> roads just before they opened. The whole area
> still looks like a construction zone.

The piles of mud are awesome!

Oh, I'm sure they'll pay $$$ to plop down some turf and plant some trees so it looks good enough for opening weekend.

Then it will rapidly die off.

LOL. Springfield's revitalization? You can't put a shine on a turd, folks!

whatever, kill joys! I can't wait to have the mall open.

S.Y. Wrote:
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> So far we have: LA Fitness, Crazy 8, Gymboree,
> Regal Cinemas, Dick's Sporting Goods, Champs,
> Chuy's, Footlocker, Yard House, Nordstrom Rack,
> Nando's, Bath and Body Works, Topshop, Forever 21,
> Sephora, Lids, Teavana, H&M, Maggianos, J. Crew,
> Ann Taylor LOFT, White House/Black Market,
> Charlotte Russe, Chico's, American Eagle
> Outfitters, Reed Jewelers, Soma, Cartoon Cuts, Mon
> Cheri Nails, Eyebrows, Springfield Therapeutic
> Massage, Target, Macy's, J.C. Penney's, Michael
> Kors, and more. Plus it houses the Springfield
> Farmers Market every Saturday. (Please, please go
> to this if you don't already. It is so important
> to support our local farming community)
>
> Yes occupancy isn't 100%, but that is still a
> pretty darn good line-up. More will come as the
> success of the mall is proven. I know that I'll
> be supporting it 100% and doing everything I can
> to help it be successful.

Actually that is a pretty crappy lineup. The anchors were already there and have been open. Target is a store that can be worth going to, barely. The rest? They sound like refugees from the hapless Landmark Mall in Alexandria. There are some useful stores around the mall like Home Depot, PetsMart, Gamestop, Starbucks but why go inside?

Just more crap.

In other words, you have the same three anchor stores with the addition of a couple of yuppie eateries that are already post-peak on the hype curve.

All surrounding a half-empty core of really down-market shops.

LOL.

refugees from the hapless Landma Wrote:
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> Actually that is a pretty crappy lineup. The
> anchors were already there and have been open.
> Target is a store that can be worth going to,
> barely.

The rest? They sound like refugees from
> the hapless Landmark Mall in Alexandria.

There
> are some useful stores around the mall like Home
> Depot, PetsMart, Gamestop, Starbucks but why go
> inside?

That's the most accurate description I've read about the new-ish Springfield Mall.

Landmark Mall refugees.

Scenes from the local news shortly after it opens.

STC will be getting a Dave and Busters!!!!!! AWWW YEAAAAHHH!!!

Is there a Food Court where I can watch the first burrito thrown thus inciting an all-out MS-13 melee?

MS-13 has already tagged STC. Check out the parking garage by Dick's or the new main entrance down from Target.

DAVE AND BUSTERS!!!! Wrote:
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> STC will be getting a Dave and Busters!!!!!! AWWW
> YEAAAAHHH!!!

source?

Angie Dee Wrote:
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> MS-13 has already tagged STC. Check out the
> parking garage by Dick's or the new main entrance
> down from Target.

Pictures or it didn't happen.

Angie Dee Wrote:
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> MS-13 has already tagged STC. Check out the
> parking garage by Dick's or the new main entrance
> down from Target.


Where at Holmes?! I will make it clear to them STC is property of the SSL and I'm not talking web security esse

Guy Wrote:
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> DAVE AND BUSTERS!!!! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > STC will be getting a Dave and Busters!!!!!!
> AWWW
> > YEAAAAHHH!!!
>
> source?

I don't have photos, but drove by a few days ago. It's not going to be opening on the 17th, but there is a banner on the outside between Maggianos & Nando advertising that it is "Coming Soon"

Dave and Busters: Coming Soon Wrote:
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> Guy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > DAVE AND BUSTERS!!!! Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > STC will be getting a Dave and Busters!!!!!!
> > AWWW
> > > YEAAAAHHH!!!
> >
> > source?
>
> I don't have photos, but drove by a few days ago.
> It's not going to be opening on the 17th, but
> there is a banner on the outside between Maggianos
> & Nando advertising that it is "Coming Soon"

I work in the area and will check it out tomorrow

Wish this store was gonna be there:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkZjKi09xZM

Dave and Busters is coming to the Springfield Town Center. The picture attached to my message was taken between Maggianos and Nandos.
Attachments:

That would be a huge addition, as the D&B in White Flint closed last year. Another big tenant which will drive traffic.

I didn't see them listed earlier, but there will also be a (yawn) Hair Cuttery and a Spencers.

They need a good tittie bar, this would improve the odds for the FBI to choose old GSA site.

D&B?? I'm going to have to tie my son up so he doesn't spend all his money there! Please say this isn't so . . . we live just down the road!

I believe having a Dave and Busters will help the town center aka mall. The closest D&Bs is in Hanover Maryland, 47 miles away and at least a 50 minute drive. Once it is known in Northern VA, people will go out of their way to come to the town center/mall.

It is happening folks.

Don't Forget Wrote:
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> I didn't see them listed earlier, but there will
> also be a (yawn) Hair Cuttery and a Spencers.


A Spencer's?! Yay!

I wonder if Dave & Busters is being brought in to make up for the fact that Time Out is not going to be found at STC. (Andrews Federal Credit Union is in the former Time Out spot, upper level next to JC Penney, according to the STC directory.)

Any chance they are bringing Hong Kong back? I could use some nunchucks and a Motley Crue T-shirt...

Cap'n Chaos Wrote:
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> Any chance they are bringing Hong Kong back? I
> could use some nunchucks and a Motley Crue
> T-shirt...

It is possible they could be in the food court. The directory doesnt have much listed in the food court as of right now.

Obviously you are man critiquing the value of a shopping mall. If u were a woman u would know that is not a pretty crappy line up.and it's the women that bring in the big bucks to the malls so your opinion is not really valid

So did any one go today? What was it like

Bo Bice Wrote:
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> So did any one go today? What was it like

Lots of empty store spaces.

Tv news showed quite a crowd at the new town center

There was a lot of people there, the traffic getting in was pretty bad.

It's not a town center, it's a mall. The back of the mall looks like the same apart from a glass paneled entrance. I was hoping for more of a change, like a true town center.

went there to check itout Wrote:
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> There was a lot of people there, the traffic
> getting in was pretty bad.
>
> It's not a town center, it's a mall. The back of
> the mall looks like the same apart from a glass
> paneled entrance. I was hoping for more of a
> change, like a true town center.


The news said they're calling it a town center because the "mall" is just one phase and there is going to be more to come.

They sold the mall for 450 million to some Pennsylvania firm, the surrounding property they can still develop.

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> They sold the mall for 450 million to some
> Pennsylvania firm, the surrounding property they
> can still develop.


Suckers.

Ch. 4 had a piece on the news that showed nothing but foreigners lined up this morning. You can put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig...

A lot of energy at the mall opening with jim mckay and the preit owners telling springfield that this was the first phase.There were easily hundreds in the crowds with cars parked back to back and people even parking across the street for parking since none were available. People from all over came to the mall not just springfieldans but those from lorton, alexandria, annandale, and other parts of fairfax.

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> They sold the mall for 450 million to some
> Pennsylvania firm, the surrounding property they
> can still develop.

There were tons of whites there some real rude though probably from this forum. Mostly they were there cause they wanted freebies and complained to management if they didn't get it.
Cap. Obvious Wrote:
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> Ch. 4 had a piece on the news that showed nothing
> but foreigners lined up this morning. You can put
> lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig...

Went and walked around a little and shopped at Macy's. None of the restaurants are open until sometime in November.

Maggiano's is open today. I thought they were adding a new parking garage to new STC, but no such luck. Same two parking garages, one by Macy's and the other smaller one by JCP. Parking is going to be a real problem there around the holidays.

I walked around the new STC this afternoon and being a white guy felt like a true minority. Gangs of black and latino kids were all over the place. I felt like STC was an inner-city mall as whitey's were few and far between. I would say 1 of 10 shoppers I saw this afternoon was white. Also, a lot of the clerks were speaking spanish with the shoppers. As I was leaving the mall via Frontier drive, saw lots of blacks and latinos heading to STC from the Franconia-Springfield Metro station.

A lot of stores weren't open. Not sure the non-whites will be shopping or spending their $ at high end stores like Top Shop, J Crew, or White House/Black Market. There are some trashy no-name stores down by Target of course.

And why the fuck is there an Andrew's Federal Credit Union at Springfield Mall? Are there that many people who live in Springfield and work at Joint Base Andrews? Or do they expect the population from PG County who live near and work at Andrews to do their shopping at STC?

That Guy Wrote:
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...
>
> And why the fuck is there an Andrew's Federal
> Credit Union at Springfield Mall? Are there that
> many people who live in Springfield and work at
> Joint Base Andrews? Or do they expect the
> population from PG County who live near and work
> at Andrews to do their shopping at STC?


Got a mailer the other day from them and was wondering too. I'm not even close to Springfield. Guess they're looking to expand. Apparently you can qualify for membership by being a "consumer."

From their site:

"Our membership includes Washington, DC, civilian and military personnel of Andrews Air Force Base, McGuire Air Force Base, and military installations in central Germany, Belgium, and The Netherlands; as well as over 200 employer groups throughout Maryland and New Jersey.

As a consumer, you may be eligible to join our credit union through the American Consumer Council. Please visit ACC's website at www.americanconsumercouncil.org for more information on membership eligibility."


From the ACC site:

"Two ways to join:

1. Join for $5.00 - if you currently use or have used a major consumer product or service in the past 12 months, you can join ACC or your state consumer council for $5.00!

2. Lifetime Members - The lifetime cost of membership is $15.00."


Not too broad eh? ;)

So, I guess the deal is that you pay the $5 to ACC and then you're qualified to join AFCU.

That Guy Wrote:
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> Maggiano's is open today. I thought they were
> adding a new parking garage to new STC, but no
> such luck. Same two parking garages, one by
> Macy's and the other smaller one by JCP. Parking
> is going to be a real problem there around the
> holidays.
>
> I walked around the new STC this afternoon and
> being a white guy felt like a true minority.
> Gangs of black and latino kids were all over the
> place. I felt like STC was an inner-city mall as
> whitey's were few and far between. I would say 1
> of 10 shoppers I saw this afternoon was white.
> Also, a lot of the clerks were speaking spanish
> with the shoppers. As I was leaving the mall via
> Frontier drive, saw lots of blacks and latinos
> heading to STC from the Franconia-Springfield
> Metro station.
>
> A lot of stores weren't open. Not sure the
> non-whites will be shopping or spending their $ at
> high end stores like Top Shop, J Crew, or White
> House/Black Market. There are some trashy no-name
> stores down by Target of course.
>
> And why the fuck is there an Andrew's Federal
> Credit Union at Springfield Mall? Are there that
> many people who live in Springfield and work at
> Joint Base Andrews? Or do they expect the
> population from PG County who live near and work
> at Andrews to do their shopping at STC?


You're a liar. Outside Target there is a 2 level H&M, Champs sports, At&t, clarks, jcrew among others thats not trashy no name stores. You're not funny and I didn't see any gangs more like moms with strollers if you think that's a gang.

That Guy Wrote:
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> Maggiano's is open today. I thought they were
> adding a new parking garage to new STC, but no
> such luck. Same two parking garages, one by
> Macy's and the other smaller one by JCP. Parking
> is going to be a real problem there around the
> holidays.
>
> I walked around the new STC this afternoon and
> being a white guy felt like a true minority.
> Gangs of black and latino kids were all over the
> place. I felt like STC was an inner-city mall as
> whitey's were few and far between. I would say 1
> of 10 shoppers I saw this afternoon was white.
> Also, a lot of the clerks were speaking spanish
> with the shoppers. As I was leaving the mall via
> Frontier drive, saw lots of blacks and latinos
> heading to STC from the Franconia-Springfield
> Metro station.
>
> A lot of stores weren't open. Not sure the
> non-whites will be shopping or spending their $ at
> high end stores like Top Shop, J Crew, or White
> House/Black Market. There are some trashy no-name
> stores down by Target of course.
>
> And why the fuck is there an Andrew's Federal
> Credit Union at Springfield Mall? Are there that
> many people who live in Springfield and work at
> Joint Base Andrews? Or do they expect the
> population from PG County who live near and work
> at Andrews to do their shopping at STC?


This ad was paid for by the merchants at Tyson's Corner Center.

It's True Wrote:
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> This ad was paid for by the merchants at Tyson's
> Corner Center.

Because the demographics of Springfield Mall shoppers is so similar to the demographics of Tyson's shoppers? LOL. Not even close.

The two malls, Tysons and Springfield are a 10 minute drive apart. It is physically impossible for the demographics to be much different.

People are stupid on here. Don't go to the fucking mall if you don't want to. Don't demonize redevelopment just because Springfield is a little more diverse.

Get a life. Springfield isn't cheap either. It's got prime location in the region. It is the central point of all this areas major corridors.

> It is physically impossible for the demographics to be much different.

Said the man who has never visited Annandale.

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> The two malls, Tysons and Springfield are a 10
> minute drive apart. It is physically impossible
> for the demographics to be much different.
>
> People are stupid on here. Don't go to the fucking
> mall if you don't want to. Don't demonize
> redevelopment just because Springfield is a little
> more diverse.
>
> Get a life. Springfield isn't cheap either. It's
> got prime location in the region. It is the
> central point of all this areas major corridors.


Maybe down in Triangle you can drive 12.5 miles in 10 minutes.

It's a good 20 minutes from Tysons to Springfield. That can turn quickly turn into 45 minutes with traffic.

gerryfag from PWC Wrote:
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> Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The two malls, Tysons and Springfield are a 10
> > minute drive apart. It is physically impossible
> > for the demographics to be much different.
> >
> > People are stupid on here. Don't go to the
> fucking
> > mall if you don't want to. Don't demonize
> > redevelopment just because Springfield is a
> little
> > more diverse.
> >
> > Get a life. Springfield isn't cheap either.
> It's
> > got prime location in the region. It is the
> > central point of all this areas major
> corridors.
>
>
> Maybe down in Triangle you can drive 12.5 miles in
> 10 minutes.
>
> It's a good 20 minutes from Tysons to Springfield.
> That can turn quickly turn into 45 minutes with
> traffic.

Obviously the mall wasnt built for only springfieldians to shop but the surrounding areas of lorton annandale farfax alexandria arlington etc. People from as far as culpeper and dulles came to the malls opening. Like yeah right the investors targeted only one part of fairfax

>
> Obviously the mall wasnt built for only
> springfieldians to shop but the surrounding areas
> of lorton annandale farfax alexandria arlington
> etc. People from as far as culpeper and dulles
> came to the malls opening. Like yeah right the
> investors targeted only one part of fairfax

"physically impossible
> > for the demographics to be much different"

People from Dulles and Arlington aren't going to shop at STC regularly, they likely just wanted to check out the renovations.

Annandale, Alexandria, and Lorton, have a bit different demographics from Mclean, Great Falls, and Vienna.

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> The two malls, Tysons and Springfield are a 10
> minute drive apart. It is physically impossible
> for the demographics to be much different.


Holy crap, you're ignorant. You're saying that everywhere within a 10 minute drive of Springfield contains the same demographics? Really? Are you that fucking stupid?

I don't see too much in the way of ghetto blacks, wetbacks, low caste Indians and dirt-poor Pakistanis in Tyson's. Sorry.


> Springfield is a little more diverse.

By diverse, you mean trashy and ghetto, I take it?

your a stupid Wrote:
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> >
>
> You're a liar. Outside Target there is a 2 level
> H&M, Champs sports, At&t, clarks, jcrew among
> others thats not trashy no name stores. You're not
> funny and I didn't see any gangs more like moms
> with strollers if you think that's a gang.


No, the 2 level H & M, 2 level Forever 21, and JCrew are closer to the Macy's wing. Immediately outside of Target on the upper level there is a no name clothing store called Trends, a Calendar Store and a Rack Room Shoes; on the lower level immediately outside Target there is a Framing Store, Eyebrow Designer, One Hour Jewelry Repair and a place called Wireless USA. These are real high class stores let me tell you. Kind of reminds me of the stores that were at Springfield Mall before it closed. Here's to the new Springfield Town Center, same as the old Springfield Mall!

What time were you at the STC? I was there yesterday from around 3:00pm - 5:00pm. Yeah, there were a few moms pushing strollers, very few. The majority of the people at the mall when I was there were non-white, mostly teenagers in large groups that were checking out the mall. Maybe they weren't affiliated with a gang, but who knows. I am sure it won't be long before the first fight or kniving occurs at the new STC.

grand opening... Wrote:
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> >
> > Obviously the mall wasnt built for only
> > springfieldians to shop but the surrounding
> areas
> > of lorton annandale farfax alexandria arlington
> > etc. People from as far as culpeper and dulles
> > came to the malls opening. Like yeah right the
> > investors targeted only one part of fairfax
>
> "physically impossible
> > > for the demographics to be much different"
>
> People from Dulles and Arlington aren't going to
> shop at STC regularly, they likely just wanted to
> check out the renovations.
>
> Annandale, Alexandria, and Lorton, have a bit
> different demographics from Mclean, Great Falls,
> and Vienna.

I grew up in arlington and loved shopping at the old springfield mall because I found more unique things and the stores werent so picked over like at ballston.

That Guy Wrote:
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> your a stupid Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > >
> >
> > You're a liar. Outside Target there is a 2
> level
> > H&M, Champs sports, At&t, clarks, jcrew among
> > others thats not trashy no name stores. You're
> not
> > funny and I didn't see any gangs more like moms
> > with strollers if you think that's a gang.
>
>
> No, the 2 level H & M, 2 level Forever 21, and
> JCrew are closer to the Macy's wing. Immediately
> outside of Target on the upper level there is a no
> name clothing store called Trends, a Calendar
> Store and a Rack Room Shoes; on the lower level
> immediately outside Target there is a Framing
> Store, Eyebrow Designer, One Hour Jewelry Repair
> and a place called Wireless USA. These are real
> high class stores let me tell you. Kind of
> reminds me of the stores that were at Springfield
> Mall before it closed. Here's to the new
> Springfield Town Center, same as the old
> Springfield Mall!
>
> What time were you at the STC? I was there
> yesterday from around 3:00pm - 5:00pm. Yeah,
> there were a few moms pushing strollers, very few.
> The majority of the people at the mall when I was
> there were non-white, mostly teenagers in large
> groups that were checking out the mall. Maybe
> they weren't affiliated with a gang, but who
> knows. I am sure it won't be long before the
> first fight or kniving occurs at the new STC.

Look at the directory stupid out of target there is a jcrew and h and m in the same hall as target and just 2 stores down. I was there morning whrn they cut the ribbon til 5pm A LOT of moms with kids and families. Lol I saw those large groups of tweens they varied in color from brown to pale white and were all short skinny and preppy. Yes they are rude but they were probably your kids. Teach them to be humble non materialistic and not to be full of themselves then and maybe then theyll stop acting like rude entitled savages

KkXUw Wrote:
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> Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The two malls, Tysons and Springfield are a 10
> > minute drive apart. It is physically impossible
> > for the demographics to be much different.
>
>
> Holy crap, you're ignorant. You're saying that
> everywhere within a 10 minute drive of Springfield
> contains the same demographics? Really? Are you
> that fucking stupid?
>
> I don't see too much in the way of ghetto blacks,
> wetbacks, low caste Indians and dirt-poor
> Pakistanis in Tyson's. Sorry.
>
>
> > Springfield is a little more diverse.
>
> By diverse, you mean trashy and ghetto, I take it?

10 min drive would be to landmark, annandale possibly arlington, alexandria, lorton. The ghetto blacks arent from soringfield theyre from woodbridge or dc. I live minutes from mall and I dont have a single black neighbor just educated indians, whites, and a hispanic neighbor from hawaii. Tysons is a zoo of all kinds of people. For me theyre all the same unless u do your shopping in expensive stores in paris or italy only people here are the same and are just as likely to act crazy

KkXUw Wrote:
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> Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The two malls, Tysons and Springfield are a 10
> > minute drive apart. It is physically impossible
> > for the demographics to be much different.
>
>
> Holy crap, you're ignorant. You're saying that
> everywhere within a 10 minute drive of Springfield
> contains the same demographics? Really? Are you
> that fucking stupid?
>
> I don't see too much in the way of ghetto blacks,
> wetbacks, low caste Indians and dirt-poor
> Pakistanis in Tyson's. Sorry.
>
>
> > Springfield is a little more diverse.
>
> By diverse, you mean trashy and ghetto, I take it?

No dipshit, malls within 10 minutes drive of each other will have relatively the same demographics of shoppers retard.

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> KkXUw Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > The two malls, Tysons and Springfield are a
> 10
> > > minute drive apart. It is physically
> impossible
> > > for the demographics to be much different.
> >
> >
> > Holy crap, you're ignorant. You're saying that
> > everywhere within a 10 minute drive of
> Springfield
> > contains the same demographics? Really? Are you
> > that fucking stupid?
> >
> > I don't see too much in the way of ghetto
> blacks,
> > wetbacks, low caste Indians and dirt-poor
> > Pakistanis in Tyson's. Sorry.
> >
> >
> > > Springfield is a little more diverse.
> >
> > By diverse, you mean trashy and ghetto, I take
> it?
>
> No dipshit, malls within 10 minutes drive of each
> other will have relatively the same demographics
> of shoppers retard.


No.

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> No dipshit, malls within 10 minutes drive of each
> other will have relatively the same demographics
> of shoppers retard.

Visit Landmark.

Then visit Tyson's Corner.

Then visit the Shops at Georgetown Park (when it reopens).

Then visit Springfield Mall.



Then tell me that the shoppers' demographics are the same.



Oh, and I like how you now couched your asinine assertion by saying "relatively the same." Fucking idiot.

pwY6L Wrote:
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> Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > No dipshit, malls within 10 minutes drive of
> each
> > other will have relatively the same
> demographics
> > of shoppers retard.
>
> Visit Landmark.
>
> Then visit Tyson's Corner.
>
> Then visit the Shops at Georgetown Park (when it
> reopens).
>
> Then visit Springfield Mall.
>
>
>
> Then tell me that the shoppers' demographics are
> the same.
>
>
>
> Oh, and I like how you now couched your asinine
> assertion by saying "relatively the same." Fucking
> idiot.


Is landmark still a mall? I thought it became a ethiopian/eritean community center? Tysons is full of people who rob others legally including dentists, lawyers, doctors, and people who believe buying a $700 hermes belt is essential to their lives and to keep up appearances basically a bunch of fake people but I guess you think those people are the most worthy people in the world? Shops at georgetown park.. i grew up walking distance from there and have to say that as a brown skinned individual I grew up seeing all types of people in that mall mostly students, people who worked nearby, people from bethesda, corporate types, people from DC (there was a shootout at halloween in georgetown last year i believe. You gotta accept that all kinds of people will frequent malls especially those with an accessible metro nearby. The shops in bethesda have a large percentage of blacks who shop there and the shops at dulles have a large percentage of indians who shop there with bleach blond housesluts who also shop at nordstroms there.

Have been going to the farmer's market there for a few years. Today is the last time that will be happening. Traffic was insane, the lanes aren't marked on Franconia Road, bad drivers and accidents in the short distance between getting off 95 and the entrance to the mall. Then no one knew where they were going, scary young men roaming in the parking lot and parking almost impossible for the market. Not somewhere I will be going again anytime soon. Seems they just have traded the old mall for a new "town center" without solving any of the problems that killed the mall to begin with.

Jenny Marks Wrote:
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> Have been going to the farmer's market there for a
> few years. Today is the last time that will be
> happening. Traffic was insane, the lanes aren't
> marked on Franconia Road, bad drivers and
> accidents in the short distance between getting
> off 95 and the entrance to the mall. Then no one
> knew where they were going, scary young men
> roaming in the parking lot and parking almost
> impossible for the market. Not somewhere I will
> be going again anytime soon. Seems they just have
> traded the old mall for a new "town center"
> without solving any of the problems that killed
> the mall to begin with.

Today is the official grand opening of the stores and it's a Saturday. Wasn't heavy traffic expected? I'm tiny and female yet I don't get scared as easily as so many on here seem to be always scared.

Gerry mander2 consistently shows up as the biggest douche on the internet.

He is only 10 minutes from LameTown and AssholeVille.

Springfield scary? What a joke people on this site are. They're just angry racists that think the best think to do is act like bitches.

It's sad really. Grown ass men acting like little girls.

Went on Fri...it was 90% non-white...what did you expect when the area surrounding the mall is little mexico??? duh!

the mall was....boring...

Of course it was. You only went their for the freebies no doubt. I doubt your cheap ass spent any money at any of the higher end shops. Is kingstowne little mexico?
mark j Wrote:
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> Went on Fri...it was 90% non-white...what did you
> expect when the area surrounding the mall is
> little mexico??? duh!
>
> the mall was....boring...

ummm Wrote:
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> pwY6L Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > No dipshit, malls within 10 minutes drive of
> > each
> > > other will have relatively the same
> > demographics
> > > of shoppers retard.
> >
> > Visit Landmark.
> >
> > Then visit Tyson's Corner.
> >
> > Then visit the Shops at Georgetown Park (when
> it
> > reopens).
> >
> > Then visit Springfield Mall.
> >
> >
> >
> > Then tell me that the shoppers' demographics
> are
> > the same.
> >
> >
> >
> > Oh, and I like how you now couched your asinine
> > assertion by saying "relatively the same."
> Fucking
> > idiot.
>
>
> Is landmark still a mall? I thought it became a
> ethiopian/eritean community center? Tysons is full
> of people who rob others legally including
> dentists, lawyers, doctors, and people who believe
> buying a $700 hermes belt is essential to their
> lives and to keep up appearances basically a bunch
> of fake people but I guess you think those people
> are the most worthy people in the world? Shops at
> georgetown park.. i grew up walking distance from
> there and have to say that as a brown skinned
> individual I grew up seeing all types of people in
> that mall mostly students, people who worked
> nearby, people from bethesda, corporate types,
> people from DC (there was a shootout at halloween
> in georgetown last year i believe. You gotta
> accept that all kinds of people will frequent
> malls especially those with an accessible metro
> nearby. The shops in bethesda have a large
> percentage of blacks who shop there and the shops
> at dulles have a large percentage of indians who
> shop there with bleach blond housesluts who also
> shop at nordstroms there.


So in other words, you're providing evidence to support what pwY6L stated about the ridiculous claim that it's impossible for the demographics to differ between malls 10 minutes apart.

But you're too stupid to realize what you're even posting about.

Made it out there today for a bit to see for myself. For those who used to frequent Springfield Mall, you'll find it hard not to laugh at the idea that this is being billed as a Town Center. Once that was advertised as the original plan before the economy forced the plan to be scaled back, I guess they felt they couldn't drop that terminology. The updated shopping center has pretty much the same basic floor plan as the old place, but it has a brighter and cleaner look. The selection of stores is somewhat higher end than it was before, but it doesn't compete with the array of nicer stores at Tysons or Pentagon City. There's only so much that can be done when the anchor stores are Macy's, J.C. Penney, and Target. The place isn't really huge, but I'd forgotten how large that place is. My honest opinion is that the new "Town Center" will have difficulty keeping the nicer stores as tenants and the whole project won't live up to the hopes of those who wanted to completely remake and rebrand the shopping center -- as well as the surrounding area.

crazyjem Wrote:
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> Jenny Marks Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> I'm tiny and female...

Hey Jenny...yeah...how are you doing? How's your Mother? Can you post your picture here when you get a moment? What size is your rack and...do you willingly take anal?

Mall Dude Wrote:
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> Made it out there today for a bit to see for
> myself. For those who used to frequent
> Springfield Mall, you'll find it hard not to laugh
> at the idea that this is being billed as a Town
> Center. Once that was advertised as the original
> plan before the economy forced the plan to be
> scaled back, I guess they felt they couldn't drop
> that terminology. The updated shopping center has
> pretty much the same basic floor plan as the old
> place, but it has a brighter and cleaner look. The
> selection of stores is somewhat higher end than it
> was before, but it doesn't compete with the array
> of nicer stores at Tysons or Pentagon City.
> There's only so much that can be done when the
> anchor stores are Macy's, J.C. Penney, and Target.
> The place isn't really huge, but I'd forgotten
> how large that place is. My honest opinion is
> that the new "Town Center" will have difficulty
> keeping the nicer stores as tenants and the whole
> project won't live up to the hopes of those who
> wanted to completely remake and rebrand the
> shopping center -- as well as the surrounding
> area.


Are you stupid? They said they'd only work in between the anchor stores. Sounds like more jealousy which I don't understand. It's great for the overall FFX economy with this new town center. Tysons and Pentagon are gigantic and how is Pentagon not considered ghetto when about 90 percent of the people who visit that mall are black and hispanic? What you say? they have a lot of $$ to spend? that's right!

Observer of Things. Wrote:
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> ummm Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > pwY6L Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > No dipshit, malls within 10 minutes drive
> of
> > > each
> > > > other will have relatively the same
> > > demographics
> > > > of shoppers retard.
> > >
> > > Visit Landmark.
> > >
> > > Then visit Tyson's Corner.
> > >
> > > Then visit the Shops at Georgetown Park (when
> > it
> > > reopens).
> > >
> > > Then visit Springfield Mall.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Then tell me that the shoppers' demographics
> > are
> > > the same.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Oh, and I like how you now couched your
> asinine
> > > assertion by saying "relatively the same."
> > Fucking
> > > idiot.
> >
> >
> > Is landmark still a mall? I thought it became a
> > ethiopian/eritean community center? Tysons is
> full
> > of people who rob others legally including
> > dentists, lawyers, doctors, and people who
> believe
> > buying a $700 hermes belt is essential to their
> > lives and to keep up appearances basically a
> bunch
> > of fake people but I guess you think those
> people
> > are the most worthy people in the world? Shops
> at
> > georgetown park.. i grew up walking distance
> from
> > there and have to say that as a brown skinned
> > individual I grew up seeing all types of people
> in
> > that mall mostly students, people who worked
> > nearby, people from bethesda, corporate types,
> > people from DC (there was a shootout at
> halloween
> > in georgetown last year i believe. You gotta
> > accept that all kinds of people will frequent
> > malls especially those with an accessible metro
> > nearby. The shops in bethesda have a large
> > percentage of blacks who shop there and the
> shops
> > at dulles have a large percentage of indians
> who
> > shop there with bleach blond housesluts who
> also
> > shop at nordstroms there.
>
>
> So in other words, you're providing evidence to
> support what pwY6L stated about the ridiculous
> claim that it's impossible for the demographics to
> differ between malls 10 minutes apart.
>
> But you're too stupid to realize what you're even
> posting about.

What are you talking about? Pshit said that demographic DO differ but they barely do in the surrounding areas. Why do you think Pshit was talking about visiting tysons then ethiopian paradise to see the difference?

Need to read more carefully stupid