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Major Break in 1975 Lyon Sisters Case?
Posted by: Cold Case Files ()
Date: September 28, 2014 08:27PM

http://www.wusa9.com/story/news/local/2014/09/16/bedfor-county-montgomery-county-homicide/15730695/

Police are searching a property in Bedford County, Virginia that was once owned by the uncle of person of interest Lee Lloyd Welch.

Quote:"Authorities know who is responsible for the abduction and murder of the Lyon sisters, and said "it includes Lloyd Welch and family family members," Montgomery County Police Captain Darren Francke said ."

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Re: Major Break in 1975 Lyon Sisters Case?
Posted by: Forum5-Oh ()
Date: September 28, 2014 08:32PM

They were abducted in MD...wrong forum.

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Re: Major Break in 1975 Lyon Sisters Case?
Posted by: Cold Case ()
Date: September 28, 2014 09:03PM

Sorry for posting in the wrong forum, but this was a huge case that left the entire DC region shocked. I pray that the police are correct and can provide closure for the Lyon family. The police seem very confident form everything I have read.

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Re: Major Break in 1975 Lyon Sisters Case?
Posted by: GSC ()
Date: September 29, 2014 01:28PM

"Welcome to Fairfax Underground, a project site designed to improve communication among residents of Fairfax County, VA. Feel free to post anything Northern Virginia residents would find interesting."

It's not the wrong forum. Many long time Faifax residents would find news about this case interesting.

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Re: Major Break in 1975 Lyon Sisters Case?
Posted by: Huh??? ()
Date: September 29, 2014 04:23PM

GSC Wrote:
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> "Welcome to Fairfax Underground, a project site
> designed to improve communication among residents
> of Fairfax County, VA. Feel free to post anything
> Northern Virginia residents would find
> interesting."
>
> It's not the wrong forum. Many long time Faifax
> residents would find news about this case
> interesting.

Nope...it's still the wrong forum. I live in Northern Virginia and I don't find this interesting...

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Re: Major Break in 1975 Lyon Sisters Case?
Posted by: Danny ()
Date: September 29, 2014 05:06PM

Anyone who grew up around here in the 70s and 80s would definitely be interested. This is one of the biggest stories of the metro area. Definitely belongs here. This is one interesting story if u haven't heard about it. Took place i believe in wheaton mall. apparently there was a guy that visited the mall when it was a open air mall and would interview the kids using a huge recorder thing. This was in the 70s. He was reported to have been seen interviewing the two sisters before the abduction.

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Re: Major Break in 1975 Lyon Sisters Case?
Posted by: Wanttoknow ()
Date: September 29, 2014 05:40PM

I live in Fairfax but lived near Wheaton Plaza as a child. I have been following this since it happened and think the news belongs here too.

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Re: Major Break in 1975 Lyon Sisters Case?
Posted by: still remember ()
Date: September 29, 2014 06:11PM

Not the wrong forum at all. I lived in Springfield when they were abducted and remember vividly how concerned my own (and other DC area) parents were. It was scary how those girls disappeared into thin air. I hope they do find out what happened to them.

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Re: Major Break in 1975 Lyon Sisters Case?
Posted by: idiot ()
Date: September 29, 2014 06:13PM

Huh??? Wrote:
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> GSC Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > "Welcome to Fairfax Underground, a project site
> > designed to improve communication among
> residents
> > of Fairfax County, VA. Feel free to post
> anything
> > Northern Virginia residents would find
> > interesting."
> >
> > It's not the wrong forum. Many long time
> Faifax
> > residents would find news about this case
> > interesting.
>
> Nope...it's still the wrong forum. I live in
> Northern Virginia and I don't find this
> interesting...

You got anything fucking better to talk about? The amount of immigrants in FFX? The number of BMW owners?

Go fuck yourself

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Re: Major Break in 1975 Lyon Sisters Case?
Posted by: Yes It a Was Fine ()
Date: September 29, 2014 06:37PM

Given all the stupid Mike O'Meara stuff, racism, porn and whether or not certain DC news anchors are hot I would say the Lyons' sisters post was fine - and thanks to the OP for posting it.

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Re: Major Break in 1975 Lyon Sisters Case?
Posted by: Fairfax interest since 1969 ()
Date: September 29, 2014 06:40PM

I've lived near guinea road since 1969.


Always wondered about the Lyons girls!




Glad that we can discuss it here!,,,,



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> "Welcome to Fairfax Underground, a project site
> designed to improve communication among residents
> of Fairfax County, VA. Feel free to post anything
> Northern Virginia residents would find
> interesting."
>
> It's not the wrong forum. Many long time Faifax
> residents would find news about this case
> interesting.

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Re: Major Break in 1975 Lyon Sisters Case?
Posted by: New Development ()
Date: October 02, 2014 07:09PM

http://www.wjla.com/articles/2014/10/lyon-sisters-investigation-press-conference-scheduled-for-3-p-m--107716.html

Police have named a second man as a person of interest. Richard Allen Welch Sr. who is the uncle of suspect Lloyd Lee Welch. Police suspect that Richard Welch worked as a security guard either at or near Wheaton Plaza at the time of the Lyon sisters disappearance.

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Re: Major Break in 1975 Lyon Sisters Case?
Posted by: I care ()
Date: October 02, 2014 10:40PM

seems as if someone has talked they are really putting resources into finding the bodies from 40 years ago, they wouldn't do that without some decent info….heard there is a grand jury involved

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Re: Major Break in 1975 Lyon Sisters Case?
Posted by: Nostradamus ()
Date: October 03, 2014 11:21PM

It was baby Jesse

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Re: Major Break in 1975 Lyon Sisters Case?
Posted by: UPDATE...Seeking Station Wagon ()
Date: November 21, 2014 08:00AM

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/39-year-old-lyon-sisters-case-update-investigators-in-virginia-search-for-car/2014/11/20/2f890b88-70c1-11e4-893f-86bd390a3340_story.html

Authorities investigating the disappearance of two girls from a Wheaton shopping center nearly 40 years ago appealed to the public Thursday afternoon for information about a station wagon that might have been used in the abduction of the sisters.

Investigators specifically want to speak with anyone who knows about a station wagon, built in the late 1960s or early 1970s. The car might have been driven to Bedford County, Va., in 1975, and once it arrived, someone might have tried to hide it, perhaps in a barn or shed.

This is not the first time a station wagon has surfaced as a potential clue in the infamous case of Sheila Lyon, 12, and Katherine Lyon, 10, who were last seen March 25, 1975.

On April 7, 1975, a Prince William County man reported seeing two girls bound and gagged in the back of a moving station wagon in Manassas. That led police to search for a 1968 Ford station wagon with 1975 Maryland tags, according to press accounts at the time.

In a statement Thursday, the Bedford County Sheriff’s Office said a station wagon, which “has been associated with the crime,” was seen in Bedford “shortly after the abduction of Sheila and Katherine Lyon.”

Officials did not describe the car’s color or other characteristics, but they indicated that people should call if they remember seeing such a car being towed from a piece of property.

“This vehicle may have been hidden in, or removed from, a barn, shed or outbuilding,” the sheriff’s office said.

Russ Hamill, assistant police chief in Montgomery County, Md., said detectives are hopeful that someone has information about the car. “We believe it may still be located in the Bedford area,” he said.

After years of little movement in the case, detectives in Montgomery and Bedford have made significant progress this year. In February, Montgomery police announced that a convicted sex offender, Lloyd Lee Welch, was a “person of interest” in the case. Welch is serving a prison sentence in Delaware, but on March 25, 1975, the one-time carnival worker was at the Wheaton Plaza shopping center, where he seemed to pay special attention to the Lyon sisters, according to Montgomery officials.

More recently, in October, authorities identified a second “person of interest” in the case: Richard Allen Welch, the uncle of Lloyd Lee Welch. Richard Welch, who has lived in Prince George’s County, is believed to have worked as a security guard in the Wheaton area in the 1970s.

Neither man has been charged in the case. Authorities have declined to comment on what role they think either might have had in the disappearance or detail what evidence they have gathered. Thursday’s news release made no mention of the Welch family.

In a letter to The Washington Post, Lloyd Lee Welch denied any involvement in the sisters’ disappearance. “I had nothing to do with this and I told the police this,” he wrote. When a Post reporter knocked at the Hyattsville, Md., address listed for Richard Welch in October, a woman opened a window and said, “No comment.”

The Welch family owned land in the Taylor Mountain area of Bedford, which has become a focus of the investigation. A grand jury there has been meeting to investigate the case.

Authorities also announced that WMAL radio has reconfirmed its commitment to a $7,000 reward that was offered in 1975 for information leading to the discovery of the Lyon sisters.

“Although WMAL has undergone a series of ownership changes since 1975,” Bedford officials said Thursday, “Cumulus Media remains strongly committed to assisting in bringing closure to the Lyon family.”

Bedford officials ask that anyone with information call 540-586-7827.

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Re: Major Break in 1975 Lyon Sisters Case?
Posted by: Cold Case ()
Date: December 08, 2014 06:28PM


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Re: Major Break in 1975 Lyon Sisters Case?
Posted by: yourlando ()
Date: September 08, 2017 08:48PM

Little bit o closure now but too little too late.

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Re: Major Break in 1975 Lyon Sisters Case?
Posted by: Hes Pleading Guilty ()
Date: September 08, 2017 11:34PM

I say for the judge to accept his plea he has to tell how he did it..and where he put the girls bodies..!

DAJAX If He Does Not Try Him For Capitol Murder and Give Him the Chair..NO Weak Liberal Needle and sleep time..

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Re: Major Break in 1975 Lyon Sisters Case?
Posted by: Hang 'Em High ()
Date: September 09, 2017 12:02PM

Hes Pleading Guilty Wrote:
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> I say for the judge to accept his plea he has to
> tell how he did it..and where he put the girls
> bodies..!
>
> DAJAX If He Does Not Try Him For Capitol Murder
> and Give Him the Chair..NO Weak Liberal Needle and
> sleep time..


I like the idea of a tall tree and a short rope.

Lower carbon footprint - Doesn't contribute to global warming.

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Re: Major Break in 1975 Lyon Sisters Case?
Posted by: skeptical one ()
Date: September 09, 2017 01:45PM

Corpus delicti???? I find it hard to believe the facts the authorities have put forth in this case. I believe they have simply worn this man down to the point that he is just giving up. Almost akin to Stockholm Syndrome. Someone has an agenda here. Why so much effort on this case?

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Re: Major Break in 1975 Lyon Sisters Case?
Posted by: Dumb Question ()
Date: September 09, 2017 03:45PM

skeptical one Wrote:
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> Corpus delicti???? I find it hard to believe the
> facts the authorities have put forth in this case.
> I believe they have simply worn this man down to
> the point that he is just giving up. Almost akin
> to Stockholm Syndrome. Someone has an agenda here.
> Why so much effort on this case?


The fact you asked that question proves that you didn't live in the area when they went missing back in the spring of 1975.

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Re: Major Break in 1975 Lyon Sisters Case?
Posted by: LJS ()
Date: September 09, 2017 06:29PM

If the state can't use the death penalty on Welch, I say he needs to be f'd in the a$$ on a daily basis for the remainder of his natural life.

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Re: Major Break in 1975 Lyon Sisters Case?
Posted by: I Was Here In 75 ()
Date: September 09, 2017 08:09PM

And like many other thousands kept a watch for those two girls and woindered what happened to them.The father was a radio guy in Maryland

Back then WE were Americans..! Some who voted for Democrats some who voted for the GOP..

The Leftists Commies And Socialists back then were out west in Berkley.. Up in Greenwich Village in NYC and As always Harvard Yard.!

DAJAX Yes The Lyon girls are an Important Issue to those who lived in NOVA And I hope they do have real evidence Welch did it and are not playing him off as some have said.

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Re: Major Break in 1975 Lyon Sisters Case?
Posted by: The red head ()
Date: September 09, 2017 10:22PM

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Re: Major Break in 1975 Lyon Sisters Case?
Posted by: skeptical one ()
Date: September 09, 2017 10:32PM

Dumb Question Wrote:
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> skeptical one Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Corpus delicti???? I find it hard to believe
> the
> > facts the authorities have put forth in this
> case.
> > I believe they have simply worn this man down
> to
> > the point that he is just giving up. Almost
> akin
> > to Stockholm Syndrome. Someone has an agenda
> here.
T> > Why so much effort on this case?
>
>
> The fact you asked that question proves that you
> didn't live in the area when they went missing back in the spring of 1975.

What does that even mean? The fact that I did not move hear until 1987 means this man is guilty? Are you fucking serious? I want to see the evidence of his guilt, not just his admission under duress. This is not how the criminal justice system is supposed to work. If he did it, fry his pass, but you have to prove it.

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Re: Major Break in 1975 Lyon Sisters Case?
Posted by: Dumb Question ()
Date: September 09, 2017 11:02PM

skeptical one Wrote:
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> Dumb Question Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > skeptical one Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Corpus delicti???? I find it hard to believe
> > the
> > > facts the authorities have put forth in this
> > case.
> > > I believe they have simply worn this man down
> > to
> > > the point that he is just giving up. Almost
> > akin
> > > to Stockholm Syndrome. Someone has an agenda
> > here.
> T> > Why so much effort on this case?
> >
> >
> > The fact you asked that question proves that
> you
> > didn't live in the area when they went missing
> back in the spring of 1975.
>
> What does that even mean? The fact that I did not
> move hear until 1987 means this man is guilty? Are
> you fucking serious? I want to see the evidence of
> his guilt, not just his admission under duress.
> This is not how the criminal justice system is
> supposed to work. If he did it, fry his pass, but
> you have to prove it.

Don't worry about how the police got him to confess. If it took 2 pipe hitting niggers with a blow torch and a pair of pliers to get him go - That's what it takes.

Justice isn't always pretty, and sometimes it requires a bit of the medieval.

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Re: Major Break in 1975 Lyon Sisters Case?
Posted by: The red head ()
Date: September 09, 2017 11:10PM

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Re: Major Break in 1975 Lyon Sisters Case?
Posted by: mgccn ()
Date: September 10, 2017 12:35AM

Dumb Question Wrote:
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> skeptical one Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Dumb Question Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > skeptical one Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Corpus delicti???? I find it hard to
> believe
> > > the
> > > > facts the authorities have put forth in
> this
> > > case.
> > > > I believe they have simply worn this man
> down
> > > to
> > > > the point that he is just giving up. Almost
> > > akin
> > > > to Stockholm Syndrome. Someone has an
> agenda
> > > here.
> > T> > Why so much effort on this case?
> > >
> > >
> > > The fact you asked that question proves that
> > you
> > > didn't live in the area when they went
> missing
> > back in the spring of 1975.
> >
> > What does that even mean? The fact that I did
> not
> > move hear until 1987 means this man is guilty?
> Are
> > you fucking serious? I want to see the evidence
> of
> > his guilt, not just his admission under duress.
> > This is not how the criminal justice system is
> > supposed to work. If he did it, fry his pass,
> but
> > you have to prove it.
>
> Don't worry about how the police got him to
> confess. If it took 2 pipe hitting niggers with a
> blow torch and a pair of pliers to get him go -
> That's what it takes.
>
> Justice isn't always pretty, and sometimes it
> requires a bit of the medieval.

Tuff talk until you are the one wrongly accused of something. How would you like to know that you are going to spend the rest of your life behind a fence for something you did not do? Not getting to go where you want, not getting to eat what you want, not getting to pick up a phone and talk to a friend or family member when you want, never being able to just go for a drive, and countless other things. This is the real shit and I just do not see the evidence against this man. If his is guilty, he deserves what he gets, but prove it to me.

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Re: Major Break in 1975 Lyon Sisters Case?
Posted by: Cry him a river if you want to ()
Date: September 10, 2017 10:06AM

mgccn Wrote:
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> Dumb Question Wrote:
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> > skeptical one Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Dumb Question Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > skeptical one Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > Corpus delicti???? I find it hard to
> > believe
> > > > the
> > > > > facts the authorities have put forth in
> > this
> > > > case.
> > > > > I believe they have simply worn this man
> > down
> > > > to
> > > > > the point that he is just giving up.
> Almost
> > > > akin
> > > > > to Stockholm Syndrome. Someone has an
> > agenda
> > > > here.
> > > T> > Why so much effort on this case?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The fact you asked that question proves
> that
> > > you
> > > > didn't live in the area when they went
> > missing
> > > back in the spring of 1975.
> > >
> > > What does that even mean? The fact that I did
> > not
> > > move hear until 1987 means this man is
> guilty?
> > Are
> > > you fucking serious? I want to see the
> evidence
> > of
> > > his guilt, not just his admission under
> duress.
> > > This is not how the criminal justice system
> is
> > > supposed to work. If he did it, fry his pass,
> > but
> > > you have to prove it.
> >
> > Don't worry about how the police got him to
> > confess. If it took 2 pipe hitting niggers with
> a
> > blow torch and a pair of pliers to get him go -
> > That's what it takes.
> >
> > Justice isn't always pretty, and sometimes it
> > requires a bit of the medieval.
>
> Tuff talk until you are the one wrongly accused of
> something. How would you like to know that you are
> going to spend the rest of your life behind a
> fence for something you did not do? Not getting to
> go where you want, not getting to eat what you
> want, not getting to pick up a phone and talk to a
> friend or family member when you want, never being
> able to just go for a drive, and countless other
> things. This is the real shit and I just do not
> see the evidence against this man. If his is
> guilty, he deserves what he gets, but prove it to
> me.

He confessed - It's over.

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Re: Major Break in 1975 Lyon Sisters Case?
Posted by: you are missing the point ()
Date: September 10, 2017 12:44PM

Cry him a river if you want to Wrote:
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>
> He confessed - It's over.


But why did he confess? I still want the proof of his guilt. Blindly following the government tends to not lead to good results.

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Re: Major Break in 1975 Lyon Sisters Case?
Posted by: Dumb Question ()
Date: September 10, 2017 01:40PM

you are missing the point Wrote:
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> Cry him a river if you want to Wrote:
> -----.
> >
> > He confessed - It's over.
>
>
> But why did he confess? I still want the proof of
> his guilt. Blindly following the government tends
> to not lead to good results.


His attorney worked out a deal over several months. Saved his ass from the needle.

You may want proof, but the deal is sealed, and your vote doesn't count for anything.

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Re: Major Break in 1975 Lyon Sisters Case?
Posted by: you are mssing the point ()
Date: September 10, 2017 04:51PM

Dumb Question Wrote:
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> you are missing the point Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Cry him a river if you want to Wrote:
> > -----.
> > >
> > > He confessed - It's over.
> >
> >
> > But why did he confess? I still want the proof
> of
> > his guilt. Blindly following the government
> tends
> > to not lead to good results.
>
>
> His attorney worked out a deal over several
> months. Saved his ass from the needle.
>
> You may want proof, but the deal is sealed, and
> your vote doesn't count for anything.


Don't remember voting for anything hero. Just stating the fact that people need to be proven guilty rather than the government just stating they are. Guess you are good with being a lemming. Not me.

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Re: Major Break in 1975 Lyon Sisters Case?
Posted by: Dumb Question ()
Date: September 11, 2017 09:51AM

you are mssing the point Wrote:
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> Dumb Question Wrote:
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> -----
> > you are missing the point Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Cry him a river if you want to Wrote:
> > > -----.
> > > >
> > > > He confessed - It's over.
> > >
> > >
> > > But why did he confess? I still want the
> proof
> > of
> > > his guilt. Blindly following the government
> > tends
> > > to not lead to good results.
> >
> >
> > His attorney worked out a deal over several
> > months. Saved his ass from the needle.
> >
> > You may want proof, but the deal is sealed, and
> > your vote doesn't count for anything.
>
>
> Don't remember voting for anything hero. Just
> stating the fact that people need to be proven
> guilty rather than the government just stating
> they are. Guess you are good with being a lemming.
> Not me.

Quite correct - Innocent until proven guilty, but when you cut a deal with the assistance of your attorney, and plead guilty, the game is over.

If you feel so bad for Walsh put money in his commissary account so he can buy some twinkies.

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Re: Major Break in 1975 Lyon Sisters Case?
Posted by: Red Mohawk rapist ()
Date: September 11, 2017 05:41PM

No joke, ask the Lyon sisters.
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Re: Major Break in 1975 Lyon Sisters Case?
Posted by: 48 YEARS ()
Date: September 12, 2017 12:58PM

Lloyd Welch just plead guilty of 1st degree murder.


http://wtop.com/local/2017/09/plea-expected-1975-lyon-sisters-murder/slide/1/


BEDFORD, Va. — The convicted sex offender charged with the 1975 murders of Sheila and Katherine Lyon has pleaded guilty to two counts of first-degree felony murder.

Lloyd Lee Welch, 60, was sentenced to 48 years in prison Tuesday as part of a plea agreement with prosecutors.

Welch acknowledged abducting 12-year-old Sheila and 10-year-old Katherine after the girls visited Wheaton Plaza during Easter vacation in March 1975.

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Re: Major Break in 1975 Lyon Sisters Case?
Posted by: 2 terms ()
Date: September 12, 2017 01:02PM

2 consecutive 48 year terms.


I remember that day as a kid when the story broke on the news.
Everyone was horrified and we didn't go to Wheaton Plaza for quite a long time.

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