Reagan was already there and so was BWI, seems like they wasted taxpayer money.

Reagan wasn't there, it was National Airport when Dulles Airport was constructed and its a national shame we let Republican rename our beloved airport.

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> Reagan wasn't there, it was National Airport when
> Dulles Airport was constructed and its a national
> shame we let Republican rename our beloved
> airport.


Dude, STFU. I bet you see nothing wrong w/ Bill Clinton getting an airport down in Little Rock, but heaven forbid if the Repubs get one, even if it's named after an overrated President.

Piss off.

He was a Governor whom became president from Arkansas. Who the fuck was Reagan?

President of the United States.

He was president of 1 % of the United States. I guess you're one of the ones that liked be trickled on. Its a fetish you know, there's no shame in it, don't be embarrassed.

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> He was a Governor whom became president from
> Arkansas. Who the fuck was Reagan?

The same thing Bill was; a Governor who became President.

Besides, this was an apolitical thread judging from the OP's intent, don't know why you felt the need to bring in your usual snark and ulterior motives.

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> He was president of 1 % of the United States. I
> guess you're one of the ones that liked be
> trickled on. Its a fetish you know, there's no
> shame in it, don't be embarrassed.

I come from a well off household so I have no reason to be mad at the mythical "1%". Maybe if you got a damn job, you'd be better off.

Republican revisionist tactics and naming the airport in our nations capital after that fascist will never fly with I. I was simply commenting on the fact that the airport was named national airport at the time. A much better name than the evil name it is cursed with today.

He was actually president of 100% of the US, since there is only one president, dumbass.

Why the hatred, Gerry? You see everything as politics and you get mad. If it was called Carter airport you would defend it, guaranteed.

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> Republican revisionist tactics and naming the
> airport in our nations capital after that fascist
> will never fly with I. I was simply commenting on
> the fact that the airport was named national
> airport at the time. A much better name than the
> evil name it is cursed with today.


Look, Reagan may have been brash and he certainly did some things that were detrimental, but he wasn't a fascist. I don't know, I was born in the 90s so I don't really know what he did aside from history books and school. Now if you know something we don't, feel free to share it.

They made it because Reagan airport was too small, and volume was too high for Thurgood Marshall airport (as evidenced by them both being busy today).

Used to be in the country.
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Independent Wrote:
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>
> Look, Reagan may have been brash and he certainly
> did some things that were detrimental, but he
> wasn't a fascist. I don't know, I was born in the
> 90s so I don't really know what he did aside from
> history books and school. Now if you know
> something we don't, feel free to share it.


Reagan destroyed the Soviet Union with his brash and unironic American cowboyism, which meant that Eastern Europeans no longer had to fight over toilet paper and sprint though machine gun fire to visit their relatives, all of which represents an unforgivable sin to the modern red-crested, daily show watching libtard.

Sure he did.

Waah Bring back the USSR! Wrote:
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> Independent Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > Look, Reagan may have been brash and he
> certainly
> > did some things that were detrimental, but he
> > wasn't a fascist. I don't know, I was born in
> the
> > 90s so I don't really know what he did aside
> from
> > history books and school. Now if you know
> > something we don't, feel free to share it.
>
>
> Reagan destroyed the Soviet Union with his brash
> and unironic American cowboyism, which meant that
> Eastern Europeans no longer had to fight over
> toilet paper and sprint though machine gun fire to
> visit their relatives, all of which represents an
> unforgivable sin to the modern red-crested, daily
> show watching libtard.

I was talking to Gerry who claimed he was a fascist asking him to prove his point and he didn't. I know what Reagan did to the USSR: SALT, Star Wars,"Tear down this wall..."

I know this already, don't give me a lecture old man. I'm on break.



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Didn't they bulldoze an entire town to make Dulles?

Blessed are the murderous.

Does it anger some of you that people don't agree w/ your beliefs? Who cares if somebody is Conservative or Liberal, Jesus Christ. They're entitled to an opinion w/o being made fun of it.

I'm sick and tired of this "political cheerleading" that goes on in politics today. Grow the fuck up and act your damn age.

How does a thread on an airport turn into a political back and forth thread?

Blessed are the murderous.

eesh Wrote:
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> How does a thread on an airport turn into a
> political back and forth thread?


Blame the hacks on here who have an agenda. To them, everything is political, even an airport. They have a mission and it's to repeat the OPINIONS they heard on Hannity or Maddow in an attempt to either:

A. Convert people

B. Find other like minded individuals to confirm their beliefs

This is just my observation of course, mind you I have seen this play out in sports forums (ESPN General, CBS Sports) and game specific ones as well (GTA Online) so it's not like it's confined to this site.

I have no problem talking about politics, it's just very hard to do when people rather be confrontational and act like assholes when you disagree w/ them.

I don't understand why people argue about politics online. You aren't changing anyone's opinion, no matter how many statistics and charts you find.

Blessed are the murderous.

I bet there are more political posts by Eesh on FFXU then any other chatter. I would bet money on that. Shut up eesh.

Gerry, you give your people a bad name.

Gerry...the disillusioned negro Wrote:
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> Gerry, you give your people a bad name.

lol, says the blatant racist. Coming from people like you I take it as a compliment.

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> Gerry...the disillusioned negro Wrote:
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> -----
> > Gerry, you give your people a bad name.
>
> lol, says the blatant racist. Coming from people
> like you I take it as a compliment.

Few of Questions for you Gerry2:

1. If a black guy said it, would it be racist IYO?

2. Do you think all black people should have the same political views?

3. How do you feel about black republicans; and I mean the sane ones (Colin Powell, Condi) and the crazy ones (Allen West, Ben Carson).

Now this thread is about black people? LOL

Blessed are the murderous.

At least it hasnt devolved into racial slurs

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How does one..."get slizzard"?

It was needed to support the influx of illegals using fake passports

The Reagan name wasn't one that was approved by the local governments or even the MWAA who supposedly controlled the airport. It was a decision made by a Republican Congress and a Republican President as part of a plan to have a Reagan monument in all 50 states and the District, and they stuck localities with the costs of having to rename the place on various signs.

Now getting back to OP's question. Dulles was created at a time when the trend was to relocate airports away from the city and close in suburbs. National was also viewed as too small at the time. BWI was at the time considered to be Baltimore's airport (It was called Friendship airport then). The assumption was that the dedicated highway plus a possible rail connection by the W&OD would satisfy the need to get to and from the airport. What they didn't count on was a strong preference for the closer in airport, not only from residents of DC and the inner Virginia suburbs, but also from politicians. Then the gas crunch hit turning Dulles into a ghost town and we provided National with a Metro connection, new terminals, expanded parking and lifted flight restrictions allowing the place to grow into a busier airport than people thought it could be in the 1950s.

Try and land anything bigger than a 767 at national...then you will have your answer

To get back to the original question, Dulles Airport was built because National Airport couldn't grown either in size or number of flights because it was in a densely populated area. Building a new modern International airport out in the middle of farm country would allow for future expansion. But because National Airport is so convenient to Washington business travelers and members of Congress it remained popular.

Bill N. and 767heavy are correct. National Airport (as it should be) was and is small, and in a tightly controlled airspace. Flights were restricted to (if I remember correctly) 1200 miles, so flying out of National really meant flying to a gateway city (New York, Atlanta, Chicago). Improvements in aircraft design have largely mitigated this restriction.

Also, in the late 1950s and early 1960s, the general belief among aviation experts and governments was that we would all soon fly everywhere in Super Sonic Transports (SSTs to Americans, and Concordes to the Anglo-French aviation collaboration). These jets required huge runways to land, and could never be accomodated at National.

Alas, the SSTs never really caught on. They were fuel hogs, uncomfortably cramped, and intolerably noisy at super sonic speeds (obviously, for the areas they were flying over). I think only about 20 were built, and the last one, an Air France flight between Dulles and Charles De Gaulle, flew in 2003.

As to the controversy about "Reagan" vs "National": regardless of your political proclivities, you have to acknowledge the almost sad irony in renaming the airport. The Act doing so, which was actually signed by Clinton, was sponsored by Bob Barr (R), a pretty despicable Ga. congressman, long since voted out. Barr was on a tear to rename every significant public place after Ronald Reagan.

The irony was that the two airports, National and Dulles, had been owned and operated by the Federal government until the late 80s, when control was turned over to the Metropolitan Washington Airport Authority (MWAA). MWAA did not support the change, nor did local politicians, or the surrounding communities that the airports serve. But it was nonetheless made, with local government picking up the cost of signage changes. So it was a case of an anti-government Republican using the power of the Federal government to force an unwanted change on local government.

Mr. Barr was evidently rather hapless. His other big accomplishment was in getting the newest Federal building at 1300 Pa. Ave. named after Reagan. The building was a boondoggle of cost overruns, and today is headquarters for the EPA, two things Mr. Reagan would presumably be against.

I have only been to Dulles once and that was dropping my mum off. Most of the time, if we are flying out, we take National or go to BWI, which is closer. Now that Southwest flies into National (they took over Air Tran), we might have to consider flying out of there.

The downside is that National doesn't have International flights so we'll still have to fly out of BWI or Dulles if we want to go to Europe or Asia.

What a stupid fucking question.. They built it so airplanes would have a safe spot to take off and land.

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> Reagan wasn't there, it was National Airport when
> Dulles Airport was constructed and its a national
> shame we let Republican rename our beloved
> airport.


Best airport name ever. A delicious bit of irony considering he shitcan the PATCO fuckers for calling an illegal strike.

They needed longer runways for 747's and heavier international type aircarft.

Ronnie Wrote:
>
>
> Best airport name ever. A delicious bit of irony
> considering he shitcan the PATCO fuckers for
> calling an illegal strike.


In that context, it is quite hilarious. Good humor!!


Only thing more humorous, are the polarizing views in every other thread by some who regurgitate MSNBC talking points.

Why should never fly into Reagan National Airport:
http://jethead.wordpress.com/2011/12/24/why-you-should-never-fly-into-washington-national-airport/

There are many, many good reasons why you should NEVER fly into Reagan National Airport in Washington DC. And I’ll tell you why you shouldn’t, and I mean fly–not sit on your butt in the back of the plane. Of course, it goes without saying that if pilots shouldn’t fly there, neither should passengers. And here’s why.

1. The Postage Stamp Effect: like LaGuardia in NYC, the airport was built in the early days of commercial aviation, when the defining factors in aircraft design were slow air speeds, light weights, agile propeller aircraft. Fine.

Never Fly Into National Wrote:
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> Why should never fly into Reagan National
> Airport:
> http://jethead.wordpress.com/2011/12/24/why-you-sh
> ould-never-fly-into-washington-national-airport/
>
> There are many, many good reasons why you should
> NEVER fly into Reagan National Airport in
> Washington DC. And I’ll tell you why you
> shouldn’t, and I mean fly–not sit on your butt
> in the back of the plane. Of course, it goes
> without saying that if pilots shouldn’t fly
> there, neither should passengers. And here’s
> why.
>
> 1. The Postage Stamp Effect: like LaGuardia in
> NYC, the airport was built in the early days of
> commercial aviation, when the defining factors in
> aircraft design were slow air speeds, light
> weights, agile propeller aircraft. Fine.

Oh come now! National isn't even a Black Star airport. It's been in operation since 1941, and has only had two crashes: one in 1949 where a Bolivian trainer hit an Eastern Airlines DC 4 in midair; and the other in 1982, Air Florida flight 90, when a 737 fell out of the sky because of ice on the wings. Both were completely pilot error.

What's the worst that will happen to a crew that inadvertently deviates from the River Approach? A reprimand and maybe a suspension.

Now here is a dangerous airport: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsZqN-uEgQU, Paro, Bhutan, in an Airbus 319. Jump to about 4 minutes in.

> Didn't they bulldoze an entire town to make Dulles?

No. If you're interested, there's a pretty decent book at the Fairfax County Library (or elsewhere): http://www.arcadiapublishing.com/9780738518473/Washington-Dulles-International-Airport



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Dulles airport was very close to being built at the site of Burke Lake.Cant remember why but they decided otherwise.

they should close Reagan. the landing path into Reagan is way too close to many important government buildings.

Braddock Gold Wrote:
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> Dulles airport was very close to being built at
> the site of Burke Lake.Cant remember why but they
> decided otherwise.

Yep...see that book. It also almost had its main entrance at the south end, by 28/50.

Jump Seat Pilot Wrote:
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> Oh come now! National isn't even a Black Star
> airport. It's been in operation since 1941, and
> has only had two crashes: one in 1949 where a
> Bolivian trainer hit an Eastern Airlines DC 4 in
> midair; and the other in 1982, Air Florida flight
> 90, when a 737 fell out of the sky because of ice
> on the wings. Both were completely pilot error.
>
> What's the worst that will happen to a crew that
> inadvertently deviates from the River Approach? A
> reprimand and maybe a suspension.

Talk to pilots who routinely fly into National.

Bob Barr was the Libertarian nominee for President recently.

Shaun Wrote:
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> What a stupid fucking question.. They built it so
> airplanes would have a safe spot to take off and
> land.


Well, folks, it's hard to argue with that logic....

they should do away with reagan Wrote:
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> they should close Reagan. the landing path into
> Reagan is way too close to many important
> government buildings.


Don't even think about it. DCA's one of the best airports in the country to fly out of. I can be from the house and on the plane in less than 1/2 hour. Easy parking. Quick in and out. No stupid sat parking, buses, people movers, monorails, or any of that crap. Security moves fast. Park. Walk. Done. Dulles is a 2 hour deal.

Greybeard Wrote:
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> > Didn't they bulldoze an entire town to make
> Dulles?
>
> No. If you're interested, there's a pretty decent
> book at the Fairfax County Library (or elsewhere):
> http://www.arcadiapublishing.com/9780738518473/Was
> hington-Dulles-International-Airport

Actually it was not a town but a village or unincorporated community.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willard,_Virginia

probably for planes to land and take off.
my best guess.

Reagan was great.

Damn, just thinking of him makes me want to stand and sing the Star Spangled Banner.

I'm not joking.

His legacy is great: even Iran-Contra was a good thing.

Only America-haters don't like Reagan.

I have flown many times out of both DCA and IAD. Dulles is losing business and they can;t figure out why. The whole layout of the airport is the problem. Everyone goes to the same main terminal for bag drop and then bottlenecks through ONE massive security checkpoint and then go by train to the departure terminals. It is big, slow, and far from DC.

Reagan is small and each terminal has its own security and distances are short. Plus it has metro and is right next to the city. Way better but you can't get any international flights.

Usually if I travel for work I try to find a Reagan flight but will do Dulles if the times or connections are that much better but otherwise I avoid it.

BWI is actually not bad (small terminals, cheap parking) but why drive 45-60 minutes when there are two others nearby?

Homie Wrote:
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> Actually it was not a town but a village or
> unincorporated community.

Just like every place else. Except Vienna, Herndon, and Clifton. Fairfax and Falls Church as well if you wanted to count cities. Every place else is part of unincorporated nowhere.

dca aa Wrote:
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> I have flown many times out of both DCA and IAD.
> Dulles is losing business and they can;t figure
> out why. The whole layout of the airport is the
> problem. Everyone goes to the same main terminal
> for bag drop and then bottlenecks through ONE
> massive security checkpoint and then go by train
> to the departure terminals. It is big, slow, and
> far from DC.
>
> Reagan is small and each terminal has its own
> security and distances are short. Plus it has
> metro and is right next to the city. Way better
> but you can't get any international flights.

Um. Seriously? I find Dulles much better than most of the other large airports. If they'd build the permanent C/D concourse, so the train didn't stop a half mile from the concourse, it'd be even better. Now, sure, lots of smaller airports have things closer, but they're, like, smaller.

Pearson (YYZ) is the worst -- I'm convinced "Lester B. Pearson" is First Nations for "Walk several miles while dragging your suitcase"!

> Usually if I travel for work I try to find a
> Reagan flight but will do Dulles if the times or
> connections are that much better but otherwise I
> avoid it.

Sure, National is better, but it's much smaller.

> BWI is actually not bad (small terminals, cheap
> parking) but why drive 45-60 minutes when there
> are two others nearby?

Right, every few years I succumb to a flight into or out of BWI. Last time I let them route me home that way (because of a cancelled IAD flight), I told my wife when I got home that the next time I told her I was considering BWI, she's to talk me out of it!

DCA is good because you can Metro right in. Otherwise, not so hot. Lots of places you can only fly to out of IAD. We'll see what it's like once Silver Line-2 is ready, but I predict that failure to build the underground station will prove to be a quite costly mistake.

Retired Guy:
I haven't seen anything that convinces me one way or t'other; maybe you know more?
If you get off the train and take an escalator down to the pedestrian tunnel, what's so bad about that? Reminds me of BART at SFO, which is fine IMHO.

Greybeard Wrote:
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Reminds me of BART at SFO, which is fine
> IMHO.


Same at Newark, which is nice.

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> Republican revisionist tactics and naming the
> airport in our nations capital after that fascist
> will never fly with I. I was simply commenting on
> the fact that the airport was named national
> airport at the time. A much better name than the
> evil name it is cursed with today.

Let's be clear about history. Gerry Connolly long ago dreamed of building Dulles to its full potential, then worked tirelessly on the Fairfax County Board of Supervisors to do so. He single-handedly caused Dulles rail to finally be built.

Dulles will be renamed for Gerry Connolly when he retires from Congress. Count on it.

When the airport was first proposed, the location was going to be in Annandale, about where NOVA Annandale is now. That was around 1953. The next site was where Burke Lake park is now. A lot of the land was cleared for the airport. Around 1959, the site was moved again to the location where it was finally built. I can remember my father taking me to Burke Lake around 1961. It was pretty barren because all of the trees had been removed for the airport. I also remember reading an old Washington Post article about a family who lost their farm for the airport at the Burke location, only to lose the new farm a few years later which was on the present airport site.

DCA, IAD and BWI are all awesome airports

eesh Wrote:
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> Now this thread is about black people? LOL


Yes, because it is ... http://www.loudounhistory.org/history/dulles-airport-history.htm

eesh Wrote:
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> Didn't they bulldoze an entire town to make
> Dulles?

This was the town:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willard,_Virginia

Independent Wrote:
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> Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Republican revisionist tactics and naming the
> > airport in our nations capital after that
> fascist
> > will never fly with I. I was simply commenting
> on
> > the fact that the airport was named national
> > airport at the time. A much better name than
> the
> > evil name it is cursed with today.
>
>
> Look, Reagan may have been brash and he certainly
> did some things that were detrimental, but he
> wasn't a fascist. I don't know, I was born in the
> 90s so I don't really know what he did aside from
> history books and school. Now if you know
> something we don't, feel free to share it.


Ending the Cold War was certainly detrimental to Gerry's communist pals... Just think Honecker's kids could still be machinegunning those Reagan loving 'bagger scrubs trying to escape the paradise of East Germany.

To answer your question Wrote:
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> They made it because Reagan airport was too small,
> and volume was too high for Thurgood Marshall
> airport (as evidenced by them both being busy
> today).

Yup, the runways were too small at National Airport for large international flights.

That's why you never see a 747 landing at National Airport and Air Force One is at Andrews Air Force base.

http://jethead.wordpress.com/2011/12/24/why-you-should-never-fly-into-washington-national-airport/

Ask Virginia why there is a toll road and Airport road? Because Virginia didn't want to help fund one highway due to their backward thinking in the 1950's. Now the tax revenue generated from Dulles and the immediate 5 mile radius is at least 10% of the State's budget.

Dwight's Rotting Corpse Wrote:
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> Ask Virginia why there is a toll road and Airport
> road? Because Virginia didn't want to help fund
> one highway due to their backward thinking in the
> 1950's. Now the tax revenue generated from Dulles
> and the immediate 5 mile radius is at least 10% of
> the State's budget.

You should take the Greenway, Dwight. It's faster and provides quick access for people in the NOVA area.

Where Burke Lake Park is now, was the first choice location for Dulles International Airport. After there was opposition to it in the 1950's, the Federal Govt chose it's current site in Chantilly. The Fed then sold majority of that land to the Fairfax Park Authority, which in turn conceived Burke Lake Park.

Now you know the history of how Burke Lake Park came to be.

Joke Insurance Wrote:
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> Where Burke Lake Park is now, was the first choice
> location for Dulles International Airport. After
> there was opposition to it in the 1950's, the
> Federal Govt chose it's current site in Chantilly.
> The Fed then sold majority of that land to the
> Fairfax Park Authority, which in turn conceived
> Burke Lake Park.
>
> Now you know the history of how Burke Lake Park
> came to be.

We already knew it. It was mentioned twice before in the thread.

Bob Barr, to push the name change at National, was going to halt funding to the airport authority or something like that. When I lived in Alexandria, I liked flying out of National because of the ease of use. I could drive from my apartment, park, and be behind security in 20 minutes. The one fucked up thing about that airport is that if you have to fly though there and change planes, you either have to cross the tarmac in a van or go out and back in through security. That wasn't well planned out, security-wise.

Miss the old Dulles prior to 9/11 when you could go behind security and the revamped that whole center section that used to have the water pool and the windows having all the model planes in them along it to the lower gates for the egg-beaters. I also like the mobile lounges, even though they are archaic.

Read the Thread Wrote:
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> Joke Insurance Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Where Burke Lake Park is now, was the first
> choice
> > location for Dulles International Airport.
> After
> > there was opposition to it in the 1950's, the
> > Federal Govt chose it's current site in
> Chantilly.
> > The Fed then sold majority of that land to the
> > Fairfax Park Authority, which in turn conceived
> > Burke Lake Park.
> >
> > Now you know the history of how Burke Lake Park
> > came to be.
>
> We already knew it. It was mentioned twice before
> in the thread.

Anyone know how Burke Lake was started?

Read the Thread Wrote:
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> Joke Insurance Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Where Burke Lake Park is now, was the first
> choice
> > location for Dulles International Airport.
> After
> > there was opposition to it in the 1950's, the
> > Federal Govt chose it's current site in
> Chantilly.
> > The Fed then sold majority of that land to the
> > Fairfax Park Authority, which in turn conceived
> > Burke Lake Park.
> >
> > Now you know the history of how Burke Lake Park
> > came to be.

>
> We already knew it. It was mentioned twice before
> in the thread.

Are you dense? Nobody on Fairfax Underground ever reads the beginning of any thread.



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Runways Too Small Wrote:
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> To answer your question Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > They made it because Reagan airport was too
> small,
> > and volume was too high for Thurgood Marshall
> > airport (as evidenced by them both being busy
> > today).
>
> Yup, the runways were too small at National
> Airport for large international flights.
>
> That's why you never see a 747 landing at National
> Airport and Air Force One is at Andrews Air Force
> base.


When Dulles opened, the Boeing 747 had not even been conceptualized. The Boeing 707, also large 4-engine jet, however was ruling the skies. It also was too large for National.

Lots of good history in this thread, kudos to the contributors for the first person observations, facts, etc. Corrections welcome if someone has better info, but weren't the mobile lounges originally intended to move passengers from the terminal directly to the waiting aircraft, and vice versa? Back in the day, there was a lot more walking across the tarmac and boarding via ladders. The mobile lounges were a great technological leap forward because the lounge could put the passengers right in the door of the aircraft.

Dulles original location was at Present day Burke Lake Park. But they changed the location

Dr. Memory Wrote:
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> weren't the mobile lounges
> originally intended to move passengers from the
> terminal directly to the waiting aircraft, and
> vice versa?

I am not sure if that was what was intended, but that is how I recall them originally being used.

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> Reagan wasn't there, it was National Airport when
> Dulles Airport was constructed and its a national
> shame we let Republican rename our beloved
> airport.

I still call it National.

Not sure if mentioned above because there are way to many posts to read through but Burke was also being considered for the airport that ended up being built sammiched between Sterling and middle of fucking no where Ashburn.

Burke lost out Wrote:
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> Not sure if mentioned above because there are way
> to many posts to read through but Burke was also
> being considered for the airport that ended up
> being built sammiched between Sterling and middle
> of fucking no where Ashburn.

...and FIND is so hard to use. Sheesh.

They made it... because we needed an international airport closer to us. At least everybody can get out.

Other spots that were considered for the airport were Andrews Air Force Base and the area in Fairfax close to where the NRA HQ is now.

Actually National was supposed to be phased out and torn down. It never happened.

The interesting thing about National Airport is that if the land was sitting there today and someone said they wanted to build an airport there, the FAA would never approve its construction. Also, there is zippy chance that as long as Washington is the capital of the United States that that airport will ever close. The national politicians rely on it too heavily to get in and out of the DC area.

Also, regardless of your political persuasion, nothing says you just got here 5 minutes ago like calling it Reagan Airport. His name may have been added to it but, the name of the airport is National Airport. Also, BWI is BWI...nobody calls it Thurgood Marshall.

Fantom.Shitter Wrote:
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> Also, regardless of your political persuasion,
> nothing says you just got here 5 minutes ago like
> calling it Reagan Airport. His name may have been
> added to it but, the name of the airport is
> National Airport. Also, BWI is BWI...nobody calls
> it Thurgood Marshall.

Indeed. I've gotten used enough to "Reagan" to at least recognize it, but "Thurgood Marshall" always takes me a minute to figure out WTF someone is on about. And I've only been here 30 years--for folks like DAJAX it must be even harder.

Of course, he's prolly never been on one o' them new-fangled things anyway, right? Cain't trust 'em--what holds 'em up?!

Apparently trump is into trickle down theory, too. He's already pissing all over this country. Don't worry. He and his treasonous administration won't last long. Then he can get hookers up pee on him full time
Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> He was president of 1 % of the United States. I
> guess you're one of the ones that liked be
> trickled on. Its a fetish you know, there's no
> shame in it, don't be embarrassed.

The official name is Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport. It's just as accurate to call it National as Reagan. I like former president Reagan yet I will never use his name for the airport.

It was already named for the first President, George Washington.

Reagan voter Wrote:
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> It was already named for the first President,
> George Washington.


Agree. George Washington was a Virginian. Born here and lived his life only a few miles from National. Reagan never lived in VA. They should remove his name and rename some airport out in CA with his name.

They tried to close down National but the Congressman and Senators bitched because they didn't want to have to go out to Dulles. What is even more bullshit is that they had reserved parking spots in the lot right in front of the the terminal at Dulles that they pitched a fit about loosing as well years ago.

As far as National's name change, that was fucking Bob Barr who forced the MWAA to do it. That was a time that they wanted to name everything after Reagan, hence the Ronald Reagan Building. I think they were also trying to get a monument approved as well. Barr also threatened Metro by withholding funding until they changed the station signs for the National Airport signs to add in "Ronald Reagan". That guy was a fucktard.

Bill.N. Wrote:
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> Jump Seat Pilot Wrote:
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> > Oh come now! National isn't even a Black Star
> > airport. It's been in operation since 1941, and
> > has only had two crashes: one in 1949 where a
> > Bolivian trainer hit an Eastern Airlines DC 4
> in
> > midair; and the other in 1982, Air Florida
> flight
> > 90, when a 737 fell out of the sky because of
> ice
> > on the wings. Both were completely pilot
> error.
> >
> > What's the worst that will happen to a crew
> that
> > inadvertently deviates from the River Approach?
> A
> > reprimand and maybe a suspension.
>
> Talk to pilots who routinely fly into National.

I have flown airplanes into National, and I've talked to airline pilots who
did it all day long all the time. My observation that it was fun and easy
coincides with their reports. However, airspace deviations around D.C. have
always been taken pretty seriously (at least since I've been piloting, the late 80s.)