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Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: The real god ()
Date: June 28, 2014 08:13PM

McLean Bible church is scam. The church is really a traffic choking shopping center established to circumvent zoning. They should pay taxes like everyone else does. How gullible would you have to be to give them money? You would have to have the IQ of a Teabagger to fall for religion incorporated. I'm sure Jerry Fallwell is laughing his ass off in hell now seeing just how stupid the religious corporations have become.

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: Wonderer ()
Date: June 28, 2014 08:17PM

Tell us then, what is a real church?

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: pP9T7 ()
Date: June 28, 2014 08:21PM

Any church that pays taxes. Why do we have to support churches? More then half the country doesnt go to church, why should we subsidize it? Religions are like assholes, nobody wants to hear yours.
Why can't people pray at home?

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: The Jewish Pastor ()
Date: June 28, 2014 09:30PM

I shouldn't have to pay taxes...

Not a sermon, just a thought

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: AZN PRIDE!!! ()
Date: June 28, 2014 09:45PM

Why does it bother you if people like me want to go to church or beleive in God? I'm not bothering you at all.

Get over yourself.

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: tims ()
Date: June 28, 2014 10:03PM

Funny, it seems it has been religions that have been overly concerned with what people think about. I'd like the number of atheists that have killed people for their beliefs. Christianity is based on paganism and they have been killing and repressing anyone that does not agree with them for the last 2,000yrs.

The earth is not 5,000yrs old, it's not wrong to think for yourself and God did not create millions of people just to send them to hell and torture them for eternity.

Honestly, I really don't care what you think but I do care about my rights to express truth not to be repressed.

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: mcTpd ()
Date: June 28, 2014 10:05PM

Because your god damn church has 11 acres of tax free property including a Starbucks that they dont fucking pay taxes on which means I have to pay more. How is that fair? You clog rt 7 and your pastor is biggest god damn liar on the planet. He lied about his intentions when they developed his church coporation. My house was near it when you were in McLean and he was a sack of crap then as well.
I have two of your flock as neighbors now and they are idiots. Thier kids "Jews killed Jesus" to the other kids. well Dahh....morons Why don't you take do a Waco?

So again why should I subsidized your stupid as church? More Teatard welfare..

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: Mattel Lie ()
Date: June 28, 2014 10:14PM

Reminds me of a friend who insists that Jesus Saves.

What? Was he fiscally responsible or did he give all of his shit away to the poor for free? If the latter, he ain't saving shit.

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: Independent ()
Date: June 28, 2014 10:18PM

tims Wrote:
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> Funny, it seems it has been religions that have
> been overly concerned with what people think
> about. I'd like the number of atheists that have
> killed people for their beliefs. Christianity is
> based on paganism and they have been killing and
> repressing anyone that does not agree with them
> for the last 2,000yrs.
>
> The earth is not 5,000yrs old, it's not wrong to
> think for yourself and God did not create millions
> of people just to send them to hell and torture
> them for eternity.
>
> Honestly, I really don't care what you think but I
> do care about my rights to express truth not to be
> repressed.

Do you really think for a second all of us think that the Earth is that young or believe in Creationism?

Wow, this is why I cannot stand most Atheists, you all like to use blanket statements and judge Christians while conveniently playing the "discrimination" card when relevant; hypocritical much?

Tell me, why does it seem like every fucking mass murder in history has been committed by an Atheist? Don't play with me bro, because I can play this game as well.

Unlike some of these fundamentalist morons, I can actually think for myself and will gladly put YOU in your place if I have to; intellectually speaking of course, don't think I would want to go to jail for whupping your ass.

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: Stalin ()
Date: June 28, 2014 10:27PM

So you'd like the number of atheists that have killed people for their beliefs? Well, why don't you start by tallying up the number of perpetrators in Hitler's Germany, Stalin's Russia, Mao's China, and Pol Pot's Cambodia, all of which were atheist regimes?

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: Independent ()
Date: June 28, 2014 10:28PM

Stalin Wrote:
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> So you'd like the number of atheists that have
> killed people for their beliefs? Well, why don't
> you start by tallying up the number of
> perpetrators in Hitler's Germany, Stalin's Russia,
> Mao's China, and Pol Pot's Cambodia, all of which
> were atheist regimes?


I was being facetious.

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: Smiling ()
Date: June 28, 2014 10:40PM

Independent Wrote:
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> tims Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Funny, it seems it has been religions that have
> > been overly concerned with what people think
> > about. I'd like the number of atheists that
> have
> > killed people for their beliefs. Christianity
> is
> > based on paganism and they have been killing
> and
> > repressing anyone that does not agree with them
> > for the last 2,000yrs.
> >
> > The earth is not 5,000yrs old, it's not wrong
> to
> > think for yourself and God did not create
> millions
> > of people just to send them to hell and torture
> > them for eternity.
> >
> > Honestly, I really don't care what you think but
> I
> > do care about my rights to express truth not to
> be
> > repressed.
>
> Do you really think for a second all of us think
> that the Earth is that young or believe in
> Creationism?
>
> Wow, this is why I cannot stand most Atheists, you
> all like to use blanket statements and judge
> Christians while conveniently playing the
> "discrimination" card when relevant; hypocritical
> much?
>
> Tell me, why does it seem like every fucking mass
> murder in history has been committed by an
> Atheist? Don't play with me bro, because I can
> play this game as well.
>
> Unlike some of these fundamentalist morons, I can
> actually think for myself and will gladly put YOU
> in your place if I have to; intellectually
> speaking of course, don't think I would want to go
> to jail for whupping your ass.

I like you.

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: hmm ()
Date: June 28, 2014 10:43PM

pP9T7 Wrote:
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> Any church that pays taxes. Why do we have to
> support churches? More then half the country
> doesnt go to church, why should we subsidize it?
> Religions are like assholes, nobody wants to hear
> yours.
> Why can't people pray at home?


World, rather, America without churches. Without Christians. hmmm ... hmmm

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: tims ()
Date: June 28, 2014 11:06PM

You people are as uneducated as f#ck!

Hitler was not an atheist, he was actually a catholic and commonly referred to God in his speeches to convince the Germans to kill them.

Was Adolf Hitler an Atheist?

Adolf Hitler was baptized in a Catholic Church in 1889 and was never be excommunicated or in any other way officially censured by the Catholic Church. Hitler frequently referred to God and Christianity in his various speeches and writings. In one 1933 speech, he said that "To do justice to God and our own conscience, we have turned once more to the German Volk."

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: tims ()
Date: June 28, 2014 11:07PM

And violent as hell, not surprised you threaten violence when you can't handle another opinion. Typical "good" Christian.

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: snakeoil retail marketer ()
Date: June 28, 2014 11:16PM

AZN PRIDE!!! Wrote:
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> Why does it bother you if people like me want to
> go to church or beleive in God? I'm not bothering
> you at all.
>
> Get over yourself.

Ah the GOP statement. Pay attention moron, he is against your hypocritical desire to have the govt hand out welfare checks to religion and pastors. If they get a salary they should have to pay taxes, after all, literal snake oil salesman have to pay taxes, so should religious figures.

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: Independent ()
Date: June 28, 2014 11:23PM

tims Wrote:
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> And violent as hell, not surprised you threaten
> violence when you can't handle another opinion.
> Typical "good" Christian.


Right, instead of focusing on the post, you focus on one word in order to discredit my opinion. It's called "poisoning the well" and it's a logical fallacy.

Nice to know I'm being judged based off of a post. You know nothing of me or what I stand for, but because I'm Christian, I might as well be some dumb, poor, white, redneck who hates gays and is a Conservative

Is that how you view me? Don't lie, because I know that's the truth. Fortunately, I"m neither of the things you listed except for the last one. I won't prejudge you, because I'm not like that.

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: (R)etard Alert ()
Date: June 28, 2014 11:26PM

Independent Wrote:
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> tims Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > And violent as hell, not surprised you threaten
> > violence when you can't handle another opinion.
> > Typical "good" Christian.
>
>
> Right, instead of focusing on the post, you focus
> on one word in order to discredit my opinion. It's
> called "poisoning the well" and it's a logical
> fallacy.
>
> Nice to know I'm being judged based off of a post.
> You know nothing of me or what I stand for, but
> because I'm Christian, I might as well be some
> dumb, poor, white, redneck who hates gays and is a
> Conservative
>
> Is that how you view me? Don't lie, because I know
> that's the truth. Fortunately, I"m neither of the
> things you listed except for the last one. I won't
> prejudge you, because I'm not like that.


No, you are FFXU, this tinder for conservatives looking for discreet twinks. We all know what you are.

The funny thing is, these moron republicans post on this website all their links next to Eesh's dudes getting pounded and stabitha teenage date rape rank posts, they get high rankings, then when people show up they see the likes of yucky24 and nignog talkin about how black people are destroying, silver back line, etc etc

You think someone on the fence (not me or gerry or any of the other progressives who like fuckin with you yokels) actually would show up on this site and say YEA! I agree with that racist douchebag who sounds like hes from 1955!

Lol, keep digging your graves morons, tell Reince his idea of turning Fairfax in 2016 aint workin, or atleast that he has to hire some actual talent.

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: Independent ()
Date: June 28, 2014 11:30PM

tims Wrote:
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> You people are as uneducated as f#ck!
>
> Hitler was not an atheist, he was actually a
> catholic and commonly referred to God in his
> speeches to convince the Germans to kill them.
>
> Was Adolf Hitler an Atheist?
>
> Adolf Hitler was baptized in a Catholic Church in
> 1889 and was never be excommunicated or in any
> other way officially censured by the Catholic
> Church. Hitler frequently referred to God and
> Christianity in his various speeches and writings.
> In one 1933 speech, he said that "To do justice to
> God and our own conscience, we have turned once
> more to the German Volk."

Think of it this way: You can hire black folks to work for you and still be a racist, son of a bitch.

It makes sense Hitler referenced God in his speeches, he was convincing people to believe in his crazy, Eugenic vision for the world and what better way to do that than by using God as a means of advancing it? As Marx said, religion is the opium of the masses.

Hell, you have people using God to justify hatred against gays, even though God doesn't *hate* gays.

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: Independent ()
Date: June 28, 2014 11:37PM

(R)etard Alert Wrote:
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> Independent Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > tims Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > And violent as hell, not surprised you
> threaten
> > > violence when you can't handle another
> opinion.
> > > Typical "good" Christian.
> >
> >
> > Right, instead of focusing on the post, you
> focus
> > on one word in order to discredit my opinion.
> It's
> > called "poisoning the well" and it's a logical
> > fallacy.
> >
> > Nice to know I'm being judged based off of a
> post.
> > You know nothing of me or what I stand for, but
> > because I'm Christian, I might as well be some
> > dumb, poor, white, redneck who hates gays and is
> a
> > Conservative
> >
> > Is that how you view me? Don't lie, because I
> know
> > that's the truth. Fortunately, I"m neither of
> the
> > things you listed except for the last one. I
> won't
> > prejudge you, because I'm not like that.
>
>
> No, you are FFXU, this tinder for conservatives
> looking for discreet twinks. We all know what you
> are.
>
> The funny thing is, these moron republicans post
> on this website all their links next to Eesh's
> dudes getting pounded and stabitha teenage date
> rape rank posts, they get high rankings, then when
> people show up they see the likes of yucky24 and
> nignog talkin about how black people are
> destroying, silver back line, etc etc
>
> You think someone on the fence (not me or gerry or
> any of the other progressives who like fuckin with
> you yokels) actually would show up on this site
> and say YEA! I agree with that racist douchebag
> who sounds like hes from 1955!
>
> Lol, keep digging your graves morons, tell Reince
> his idea of turning Fairfax in 2016 aint workin,
> or atleast that he has to hire some actual talent.

Well excuse me, but as a black person, I get offended when I see the racist crap that gets spewed on this site. Too me, it's unoriginal racism propagated by this innate nature of scared, little white guys who have somehow made themselves to be believe that blacks are violent and ghetto.

Indeed a sizable sect does follow a certain ghetto mindset, but that doesn't mean they are violent or savages; the same can be said for those poor ass rednecks in Appalachia. No, I don't agree w/ the Teabagger mindset on here, I think it's just ignorance from people who only know what Fox and Drudge tells them.

Look, I know what I like and I know who I am. Again, don't stereotype me because you'd probably be wrong.

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: ohboy ()
Date: June 28, 2014 11:58PM

(R)etard Alert Wrote:
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> Independent Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > tims Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > And violent as hell, not surprised you
> threaten
> > > violence when you can't handle another
> opinion.
> > > Typical "good" Christian.
> >
> >
> > Right, instead of focusing on the post, you
> focus
> > on one word in order to discredit my opinion.
> It's
> > called "poisoning the well" and it's a logical
> > fallacy.
> >
> > Nice to know I'm being judged based off of a
> post.
> > You know nothing of me or what I stand for, but
> > because I'm Christian, I might as well be some
> > dumb, poor, white, redneck who hates gays and is
> a
> > Conservative
> >
> > Is that how you view me? Don't lie, because I
> know
> > that's the truth. Fortunately, I"m neither of
> the
> > things you listed except for the last one. I
> won't
> > prejudge you, because I'm not like that.
>
>
> No, you are FFXU, this tinder for conservatives
> looking for discreet twinks. We all know what you
> are.
>
> The funny thing is, these moron republicans post
> on this website all their links next to Eesh's
> dudes getting pounded and stabitha teenage date
> rape rank posts, they get high rankings, then when
> people show up they see the likes of yucky24 and
> nignog talkin about how black people are
> destroying, silver back line, etc etc
>
> You think someone on the fence (not me or gerry or
> any of the other progressives who like fuckin with
> you yokels) actually would show up on this site
> and say YEA! I agree with that racist douchebag
> who sounds like hes from 1955!
>
> Lol, keep digging your graves morons, tell Reince
> his idea of turning Fairfax in 2016 aint workin,
> or atleast that he has to hire some actual talent.

giving all your secrets away.... naming names... uh oh. you done it now.

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: No Churchgoer ()
Date: June 29, 2014 08:12AM

Anti-Christian, hate-filled bigot attacking a church. Yawn. Go back to your religion of Obama worship and stop annoying others.

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: newone ()
Date: June 29, 2014 09:54AM

No Churchgoer Wrote:
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> Anti-Christian, hate-filled bigot attacking a
> church. Yawn. Go back to your religion of Obama
> worship and stop annoying others.

Why dont you go back to the dark ages? You could spend all your time living in fear, burning witches , stoning blasphemers, being scared of the dark. Oh wait, you still are!

Just think where civilization would be if all you primative life forms were gone. The irony is you claim Jesus is the answer yet, 99% of you don't adhere to anything he taught.

Society wastes all it times arguing about religion, race, gay mariage, pot, prayer in schools......It is all because of you stupid right wingers. Stop telling everyone else how to live. We will see you in hell, I am sure god will have an special place for you teabaggers and others who use his name to do immense evil.

So go and prey to your blonde hair blue eyed Jesus. I'm sure he is busy helping your team win the super bowel or helping the lottery players get the winning ticket.


And by the way,
McLean Bible Church is not a Church. It is a shopping center that found a loophole to avoid paying taxes. PERIOD.


After the rapture comes, the IQ of the planet will go up 100 points.

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: Churchless Society ()
Date: June 29, 2014 10:29AM

Why don't these hate-filled, anti-Christians move to North Korea? There's a place where they can live free of the awful oppression that churches impose on them. Oh yes, and don't forget to enjoy gay marriage, freedom of speech, and prosperity that Christian-hating countries provide!

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: loyal follower ()
Date: June 29, 2014 10:38AM

mclean bible church is a cult. once they get to enough members, they will have a mass kool-aid drinking party. hopefully it will rid nova of all the stupid dems in the area, seeing they all drank obummers kool-aid.

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: Lwbmp ()
Date: June 29, 2014 10:42AM

loyal follower Wrote:
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> mclean bible church is a cult. once they get to
> enough members, they will have a mass kool-aid
> drinking party. hopefully it will rid nova of all
> the stupid dems in the area, seeing they all drank
> obummers kool-aid.


Got it all wrong..They are Rightwingers...not lefties....

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: Pretty Much ()
Date: June 29, 2014 11:06AM

Might not be 100 points, but it is interesting to note that the map of highest affiliation as a Southern Baptist and the map of lowest average SAT scores are virtually the same map. More God = More Dumb. Bottom line is that Christian fundamentalists are very little different form Muslim fundamentalists. Trapped in a world of myth and superstition. Slaves to irrational hysteria. That's no way to live.

Tax exemptions for churches are meanwhile partial exemptions only. Like any 501(c)(3), they are prohibited from many non-religious entanglements. A church may allow vending machines or even a Starbucks on its premises, but those operate outside the scope of the church. They are operated by the vendor or by Starbucks, just as at any other location.

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: :) ()
Date: June 29, 2014 11:07AM

newone Wrote:
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> No Churchgoer Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Anti-Christian, hate-filled bigot attacking a
> > church. Yawn. Go back to your religion of
> Obama
> > worship and stop annoying others.
>
> Why dont you go back to the dark ages? You could
> spend all your time living in fear, burning
> witches , stoning blasphemers, being scared of
> the dark. Oh wait, you still are!
>
> Just think where civilization would be if all you
> primative life forms were gone. The irony is you
> claim Jesus is the answer yet, 99% of you don't
> adhere to anything he taught.
>
> Society wastes all it times arguing about
> religion, race, gay mariage, pot, prayer in
> schools......It is all because of you stupid right
> wingers. Stop telling everyone else how to live.
> We will see you in hell, I am sure god will have
> an special place for you teabaggers and others
> who use his name to do immense evil.
>
> So go and prey to your blonde hair blue eyed
> Jesus. I'm sure he is busy helping your team win
> the super bowel or helping the lottery players get
> the winning ticket.
>
>
> And by the way,
> McLean Bible Church is not a Church. It is a
> shopping center that found a loophole to avoid
> paying taxes. PERIOD.
>
>
> After the rapture comes, the IQ of the planet
> will go up 100 points.

+ about a bazillion to the nth degree ...awesome squared!

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: Pretty Much ()
Date: June 29, 2014 11:17AM

Churchless Society Wrote:
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> Why don't these hate-filled, anti-Christians move
> to North Korea?

There are no anti-Christians. There are people who are anti-stupid and anti-obnoxious. I you are a stupid and obnoxious Christian, you might well come to an erroneous conclusion concerning the source of hostility and other negative reaction that you receive from others.

> There's a place where they can live free of the
> awful oppression that churches impose on them.

The US is intended as such a place. Try to keep that in mind.

> Oh yes, and don't forget to enjoy gay marriage,
> freedom of speech, and prosperity that Christian-
> hating countries provide!

Oddly, right-wingers in general and religious right-wingers in particular seem strongly opposed to all of those things. Oh well. No need for normal people to pay any attention to them anyway.

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: Google, MSFT, Apple, and the res ()
Date: June 29, 2014 11:53AM

If they were taxed, they would just set up an offshore headquarters in a tax haven and set up licensing rights for the Bibble between each member church and the corporate parent in order to move the taxable profits 'offshore'.

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: Independent ()
Date: June 29, 2014 12:12PM

Wait...if Obama is an Atheist, how's he a Muslim? I could have sworn he was a Protestant?

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: Independent ()
Date: June 29, 2014 12:15PM

It's like in this day in age, you have to either be a Fundie or an Atheist, there is no more middle ground; no more being the "normal" churchgoing person. Extremism sucks.

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: hateignorancexn ()
Date: June 29, 2014 12:18PM

The ignorance of the hate-filled morons on this site never ceases to amaze me. Have any of you every been involved with churches in the US?

Most of them are filled with the nicest, most peaceful and charitable people on earth. The amount of behind the scenes charitable work is in the billions of dollars per year. To focus on a few extreme examples of nuttery is just stupid.

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: xpjYe ()
Date: June 29, 2014 12:19PM

Independent Wrote:
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> Wait...if Obama is an Atheist, how's he a Muslim?
> I could have sworn he was a Protestant?

You forgot to add that during the election they were saying he was Satan.....Damn he is talented.

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: insane ()
Date: June 29, 2014 12:40PM

Oh, yeah, and he's both a communist and a fascist. Go figure. Maybe he's God or a god or something.

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: obummer ()
Date: June 29, 2014 12:51PM

i can change to whatever religion i want to, whenever i want to so it can benefit my agenda. just like i said ill never deal with terrorists. i needed something to cover up the vet scandal, so why not release a few killers for a traitor. after all, i really hate america so why not mess it up as much as possible for 8 years, then laugh about it later when i move to syria to support terrorism. im te president, so i can do whatever the hell i want to, because americans are to dumb to run things for themselves.

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: Ye3x7 ()
Date: June 29, 2014 12:53PM

The OP troll Wrote:
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> Another lame troll post full of bigoted hate and self-centered
> ranting, i.e. typical atheist post


LoLz
 
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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: YPuMT ()
Date: June 29, 2014 12:58PM

Ye3x7 Wrote:
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> The OP troll Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Another lame troll post full of bigoted hate and
> self-centered
> > ranting, i.e. typical atheist post
>
>
> LoLz
>  
Don't you have some book to burn? "Gosh, everything I need to know is in th bible"

BTW,
Thats a great picture of Boehner aka Boner...

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: Tolerant Liberal ()
Date: June 29, 2014 01:04PM

As a liberal who demands tolerance from others, is it hypocritical of me to want all Christians to be silenced and oppressed? As a liberal who condemns bigotry, is it hypocritical of me to paint all Christians as stupid rednecks?

Zealots - if they don't like something, they want it outlawed for everyone else. Leftwing zealots try to outlaw religion, big gulps, conservative speech, eating meat, and individuality. Religious zealots try to outlaw tobacco, alcohol, pot, and abortions. Would love to see all zealots just die.

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: 3JHXM ()
Date: June 29, 2014 01:14PM

YPuMT Wrote:
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> Don't you have some book to burn? "Gosh,
> everything I need to know is in th bible"
>
> BTW,
> Thats a great picture of Boehner aka Boner...


LoLz

 
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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: 3J43C ()
Date: June 29, 2014 01:15PM

We just want them to pay their fair share of taxes.


It wasn't about oppressing them


Believe what you want, I don't want to pay for it.

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: Translator ()
Date: June 29, 2014 01:22PM

3J43C Wrote:
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> We just want them to pay their fair share of
> taxes.
>
>
> It wasn't about oppressing them
>
>
> Believe what you want, I don't want to pay for it.

In other words, you just them to subsidize a bigger welfare check for your lazy, leeching fat ass. Just be honest about it!

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: Zoinks ()
Date: June 29, 2014 01:22PM

3J43C Wrote:
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> We just want them to pay their fair share of
> taxes.
>
>
> It wasn't about oppressing them
>
>
> Believe what you want, I don't want to pay for it.


Churches have to follow IRS rules regarding politics and what they can and can't do. They are no different than other 501 (c)(3) organizations. Do you also whine about the Sierra Club, Media Matters and/or your local PTA also being tax exempt?

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: kxmdG ()
Date: June 29, 2014 01:42PM

Zoinks Wrote:
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> 3J43C Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > We just want them to pay their fair share of
> > taxes.
> >
> >
> > It wasn't about oppressing them
> >
> >
> > Believe what you want, I don't want to pay for
> it.
>
>
> Churches have to follow IRS rules regarding
> politics and what they can and can't do. They are
> no different than other 501 (c)(3) organizations.
> Do you also whine about the Sierra Club, Media
> Matters and/or your local PTA also being tax
> exempt?

The Sierra Club, Media Matters and/or your local PTA actually contribute something to the world, McLean Bible Church only scams people to make himself rich and again doesnt pay taxes.

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: June 29, 2014 01:52PM

kxmdG Wrote:
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> The Sierra Club, Media Matters and/or your local
> PTA actually contribute something to the world,
> McLean Bible Church only scams people to make
> himself rich and again doesnt pay taxes.

Your ignorance is astounding. You don't know anything about McLean Bible Church at all.

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: N73jv ()
Date: June 29, 2014 01:57PM

kxmdG Wrote:
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> Zoinks Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > 3J43C Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > We just want them to pay their fair share of
> > > taxes.
> > >
> > >
> > > It wasn't about oppressing them
> > >
> > >
> > > Believe what you want, I don't want to pay
> for
> > it.
> >
> >
> > Churches have to follow IRS rules regarding
> > politics and what they can and can't do. They
> are
> > no different than other 501 (c)(3)
> organizations.
> > Do you also whine about the Sierra Club, Media
> > Matters and/or your local PTA also being tax
> > exempt?
>
> The Sierra Club, Media Matters and/or your local
> PTA actually contribute something to the world,
> McLean Bible Church only scams people to make
> himself rich and again doesnt pay taxes.


LoLz

 
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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: hmdEk ()
Date: June 29, 2014 01:59PM

Clearly we know more then you. If you knew anything about it, you would not be defending it.
Like children of child abusers defending the abuser...Amazing..........You need help. There are many options for getting out of th cult.

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: PYNGU ()
Date: June 29, 2014 02:22PM

hmdEk Wrote:
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> Clearly we know more then you. If you knew
> anything about it, you would not be defending it.
>
> Like children of child abusers defending the
> abuser...Amazing..........You need help. There are
> many options for getting out of th cult.


LoLz

 
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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: June 29, 2014 02:27PM

hmdEk Wrote:
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> Clearly we know more then you. If you knew
> anything about it, you would not be defending it.
>
> Like children of child abusers defending the
> abuser...Amazing..........You need help. There are
> many options for getting out of th cult.

Sorry, but I am not in any way affiliated with MBC. But why don't you tell us what you are doing to make the world a better place?

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: not a god ()
Date: June 29, 2014 02:29PM

McLean Bible Church boasts quite an impressive list of powerful lawyers and CPAs in their congregation, not to mention the high-level politicians and civil servants. They are not about to make a mistake that jeopardizes their tax status.

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: compromise? ()
Date: June 29, 2014 03:14PM

How about churches just get taxed at a flat 4%? This should not be too hard on the churches, and the gubment gets some money out the deal.

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: nPCwt ()
Date: June 29, 2014 03:23PM

not a god Wrote:
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> McLean Bible Church boasts quite an impressive
> list of powerful lawyers and CPAs in their
> congregation, not to mention the high-level
> politicians and civil servants. They are not
> about to make a mistake that jeopardizes their tax
> status.

Fix it for you
McLean Bible Church boasts quite an impressive
> list of human garbage hypocrites in their
> congregation, not to mention the amoral high-level
> politicians and corrupt civil servants.
>They are getting away with their scam
>cheating all the honest taxpayers just like
>our teabagger Jesus would want

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: Pretty Much ()
Date: June 29, 2014 05:39PM

Zoinks Wrote:
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> Churches have to follow IRS rules regarding
> politics and what they can and can't do. They are
> no different than other 501 (c)(3) organizations.
> Do you also whine about the Sierra Club, Media
> Matters and/or your local PTA also being tax
> exempt?

Churches are SUPPOSED to follow IRS rules regarding politics. Rules however matter only to the extent that they are enforced, and under various circumstances, the appointed enforcers do not take their assignments very seriously.

The core problem re taxation of churches is that the law presumes "advancement of religion" to be in and of itself a legitimate charitable cause. Certainly a quite significant case can be made to the contrary, a case that would obligate churches etc. to justify on a case by case basis an exemption for their various activities and undertakings. THat's what everyone else has to do. To the contrary however, churches etc. are exempt from filing the Form 990 that all other 501(c)(3)'s must file. The entries on a 990 are what document that funds raised under a charitable umbrella are actually used for charitable purposes. Churches are simply allowed to sidestep that sort of transparency.

All of this of course refers to income tax exemptions and the deductibility of contributions. The big kid on the block is the local property tax exemptions that have been carved out for churches etc., often for property not being used for or put to any charitable purpose at all. We all pay more in local taxes because of the church-owned acreage that simply goes untaxed.

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: Zoinks ()
Date: June 29, 2014 08:28PM

Pretty Much Wrote:
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> Churches are SUPPOSED to follow IRS rules
> regarding politics. Rules however matter only to
> the extent that they are enforced, and under
> various circumstances, the appointed enforcers do
> not take their assignments very seriously.
>
> The core problem re taxation of churches is that
> the law presumes "advancement of religion" to be
> in and of itself a legitimate charitable cause.
> Certainly a quite significant case can be made to
> the contrary, a case that would obligate churches
> etc. to justify on a case by case basis an
> exemption for their various activities and
> undertakings. THat's what everyone else has to
> do. To the contrary however, churches etc. are
> exempt from filing the Form 990 that all other
> 501(c)(3)'s must file. The entries on a 990 are
> what document that funds raised under a charitable
> umbrella are actually used for charitable
> purposes. Churches are simply allowed to sidestep
> that sort of transparency.
>
> All of this of course refers to income tax
> exemptions and the deductibility of contributions.
> The big kid on the block is the local property
> tax exemptions that have been carved out for
> churches etc., often for property not being used
> for or put to any charitable purpose at all. We
> all pay more in local taxes because of the
> church-owned acreage that simply goes untaxed.


Yep, just like unions are SUPPOSED to follow IRS rules and Media Matter is SUPPOSED to follow IRS rules, etc, etc. Your first point is useless.

Churches are exempt because there is a separation of Church and State vis-a-vis the US Constitution's 1st Amendment, not the presumption that "advancing religion" is legally a charitable cause. Your second point is based on a false premises.

MBC donates millions of $$$ a year to charitable causes whether it's providing in-house care to disabled kids to providing daily after-school care in SE Washington DC to providing scholarships to disadvantaged kids to provided ESL programs to the Hispanic community in PWC to donating over 25,000 Thanksgiving meals to the poor and on and on. You don't know what you're talking about regarding MBC. Perhaps other churches don't donate time or money but that's between them, their congregations, their denominations and God.

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: June 29, 2014 09:00PM

Zoinks Wrote:
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>
> MBC donates millions of $$$ a year to charitable
> causes whether it's providing in-house care to
> disabled kids to providing daily after-school care
> in SE Washington DC to providing scholarships to
> disadvantaged kids to provided ESL programs to the
> Hispanic community in PWC to donating over 25,000
> Thanksgiving meals to the poor and on and on. You
> don't know what you're talking about regarding
> MBC. Perhaps other churches don't donate time or
> money but that's between them, their
> congregations, their denominations and God.

Every church I have ever had any knowledge of their internal workings donated directly and indirectly tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars every year in charitable activities. A large portion of which were not for the "purposes of advancing religion." People on the outside just have no clue. I could cite dozens of examples within NOVA that I have personal knowledge of.

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: FmHCh ()
Date: June 29, 2014 09:07PM

McLean Bible Church, a cult like Scientology only for ugly people.

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: UPC9h ()
Date: July 14, 2014 09:33AM

They seem okay to me. I listen to their radio shows once in a while and love them. It's too bad there are so many faithless, sinning, haters on FFU who just don't get it.
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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: MILF Lover ()
Date: July 14, 2014 10:39AM

I went to McLean Bible Church this Sunday and sat in the back for Lon's sermon at 10:45am. Was very disappointed in the talent - maybe 1 out of every 50 women I would do. Maybe I need to go to the 5:30pm service - help me out guys!

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: 2 words ()
Date: July 14, 2014 02:31PM

tysons 2 (or any high end mall during the normal work day)

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: Jesus is warning You ()
Date: July 14, 2014 03:14PM

MILF Lover Wrote:
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> I went to McLean Bible Church this Sunday and sat
> in the back for Lon's sermon at 10:45am. Was very
> disappointed in the talent - maybe 1 out of every
> 50 women I would do. Maybe I need to go to the
> 5:30pm service - help me out guys!

Besides "doability" and "hotness" you have to factor in the "Bat Shit Crazy" factor unless you have a throw away phone, lie about your name, NEVER bring her home and a car you don't care about, you should far stay away from these bimbos. The MBC singles clubs is for crazy and deranged people who are far to pathetic to get into a "Normal" relationship. Most have even failed at buying a wife overseas or in the women's case getting married to a guy so he can get a green card.

You have been warned! If you ignore this, PLEASE post here, we all love a good train wreck of a relationship. We love the ex-con and ex-hooker factor as well!

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: EWbmW ()
Date: July 14, 2014 03:43PM

Paraphrasing Jerry Seinfeld: There are people, and then there are pods. I, for example, am one of the people, I care about others and things. OP, on the other hand, is a pod.

I don't go to MBC, although I do know some people who do.

But I do know that MBC does a lot of wonderful things, while OP lives his/her self-centered on the computer criticizing it.

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: EJLVH ()
Date: July 14, 2014 03:59PM

EWbmW Wrote:
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> Paraphrasing Jerry Seinfeld: There are people, and
> then there are pods. I, for example, am one of the
> people, I care about others and things. OP, on the
> other hand, is a pod.
>
> I don't go to MBC, although I do know some people
> who do.
>
> But I do know that MBC does a lot of wonderful
> things, while OP lives his/her self-centered on
> the computer criticizing it.

Maybe you can all pray to OZ that those of us who oppose the great and powerful OZ will be Smited, Smote or Smitten.

I don't give a shit what you all do it in you little whacko cult. Please just do it someplace else. I don't think you would want the Teaparty version of Rainbow festival in your neighborhood every god damn F$cking weekend.

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: dT7dG ()
Date: July 14, 2014 04:11PM

not a god Wrote:
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> McLean Bible Church boasts quite an impressive
> list of powerful lawyers and CPAs in their
> congregation, not to mention the high-level
> politicians and civil servants. They are not
> about to make a mistake that jeopardizes their tax
> status.



I would like to know what politicians and civil servents are members so we can make sure there was no corruption in the zoning process. They kept whining about religious freedom when they were up against zoning restrictions. That land was not zoned to be a Mega shopping center. There should be a criminal investagation. That land was supposed to be used for nature or park. All you have to do is tell everyone Jesus wanted it and all the rules go out the window. I wonder if Jesus is telling me that he hates MBC for mocking his word and wants it to move someplace else?

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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: interesting_indeed ()
Date: July 14, 2014 04:14PM

I like this topic. I go to Mclean Bible. And I think all churches should pay taxes. Churches are money machines and have real estate associated. I see no reason why a church (also a business) shouldn't have to pay taxes. The people they employ have to pay taxes on income. I am not saying this because of the "fair share" argument. I just feel churches are money-making businesses.
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Re: Since McLean Bible church isnt a real church, should they pay taxes like the rest of do?
Posted by: 7Kj6b ()
Date: July 20, 2014 06:29AM

Seems like a good church to belong to if you are an ex-con like the pastor or if you want to kill your spouse. "Birds of a feather flock together" Maybe the mother-ship will arrive soon or they will all drink the Koolaid

Morons.

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