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Va. House tosses out governor's vetoes
Posted by: NOVA Politics! ()
Date: June 24, 2014 07:02AM

Va. House tosses out governor's vetoes
http://www.wusa9.com/story/news/politics/2014/06/23/virginia-medicaid-expansion/11292905/

RICHMOND, Va. (AP) - The Virginia House of Delegates has thrown out two of Gov. Terry McAuliffe's line-item budget vetoes.

House Speaker William J. Howell ruled Monday that McAuliffe's vetoes were outside the scope of the governor's authority.

The move effectively overrides the vetoes without the House having to vote on them.

One veto Howell tossed out was of a Republican-backed amendment aimed at preventing him from expanding Medicaid without legislative approval. The House GOP majority blocked McAuliffe's top legislative priority, leading to a protracted budget stalemate that threatened to shut down government.

Howell also ruled a veto concerning funding for new state judgeships out of order.

The House voted 70-27 to override McAuliffe's veto of funding for a new ethics commission. The Senate is set to take up that veto Monday evening.
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Re: Va. House tosses out governor's vetoes
Posted by: ilts ()
Date: June 24, 2014 07:06AM

Howell for Governor! Glad somebody put a stop to McAwfulls bullshit.

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Re: Va. House tosses out governor's vetoes
Posted by: Honestly ()
Date: June 24, 2014 07:11AM

McAuliffe has watched President Obama ignore his oath of office and rule outside the law and is attempting to do the same in Virginia. It is one of the horrible consequences of the Obama debacle.

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Re: Va. House tosses out governor's vetoes
Posted by: insane ()
Date: June 24, 2014 07:15AM

Im ashamed to live here. VA is refusing Federal funds to expand medicade to provide people with access to the doctor. WTF - the Fed want to help us by paying to care for our sick and we say 'no' on principal. That is moronic.

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Re: Va. House tosses out governor's vetoes
Posted by: ptyck ()
Date: June 24, 2014 07:17AM

insane Wrote:
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> Im ashamed to live here.

Then move somewhere else. While you're at it, take some of the illegals with you.

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Re: Va. House tosses out governor's vetoes
Posted by: Honesty and Integrity ()
Date: June 24, 2014 09:34AM

insane Wrote:
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> Im ashamed to live here. VA is refusing Federal
> funds to expand medicade to provide people with
> access to the doctor. WTF - the Fed want to help
> us by paying to care for our sick and we say 'no'
> on principal. That is moronic.

Of course, in taking this money the state would be incurring untold future STATE spending.

Please understand that I have a lot of compassion for those who are not truly well off, like Hillary.

If you are ashamed to live here, move to MD. Just be careful not to bump into those fleeing the high tax rates in that state.

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Re: Va. House tosses out governor's vetoes
Posted by: Fast Terry ()
Date: June 24, 2014 09:52AM

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Re: Va. House tosses out governor's vetoes
Posted by: Sautéed Porcini ()
Date: June 24, 2014 12:33PM

All Republicans should just move to Alabama and keep their crazy teabagging out of Virginia.

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Re: Va. House tosses out governor's vetoes
Posted by: LIB-TARDZ LOLZ! ()
Date: June 24, 2014 12:33PM

Sautéed Porcini Wrote:
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> All Republicans should just move to Alabama and
> keep their crazy teabagging out of Virginia.


Yes, because not blowing up the budget is just crazy.

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Re: Va. House tosses out governor's vetoes
Posted by: OJT ()
Date: June 24, 2014 12:41PM

Nice to see that we're expanding our on-the-job governance training from the Federal to state level.

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Re: Va. House tosses out governor's vetoes
Posted by: What's really crazy? ()
Date: June 24, 2014 12:50PM

Sautéed Porcini Wrote:
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> All Republicans should just move to Alabama and
> keep their crazy teabagging out of Virginia.


Maybe it was a little more crazy to put a community organizer in the White House. The results suggest that is the case. To be honest, I would think liberals would be the one most upset with the old community organizer. The idea of big government has been set back a generation by the White House's bungling and ineptitude.

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Re: Va. House tosses out governor's vetoes
Posted by: JmXGM ()
Date: June 24, 2014 01:38PM

a simple majority , %51 , is only for legislation not effecting personal rights

2/3 majority is required for anything like, guns or VAWA or phone tapping.

a NEW 2/3 vote is required to overturn a veto after ANY veto (on minor and major laws)

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many laws in the Wordpad legal societies of late have passed MAJOR laws effecting raising taxes and restriction on poor and limiting rights of poor, by %51 majority

worthless

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i don't see the problem Mc AU lift (lifts gold from VA to NJ) voted democrat

yes and who decided and did get the bill on the floor ?

nothing unusual here

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Re: Va. House tosses out governor's vetoes
Posted by: EwYeP ()
Date: June 24, 2014 01:49PM

JmXGM Wrote:
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> a simple majority , %51 , is only for legislation
> not effecting personal rights
>
> 2/3 majority is required for anything like, guns
> or VAWA or phone tapping.
>
> a NEW 2/3 vote is required to overturn a veto
> after ANY veto (on minor and major laws)
>
> --------------------
> many laws in the Wordpad legal societies of late
> have passed MAJOR laws effecting raising taxes and
> restriction on poor and limiting rights of poor,
> by %51 majority
>
> worthless
>
> ---------------------
> i don't see the problem Mc AU lift (lifts gold
> from VA to NJ) voted democrat
>
> yes and who decided and did get the bill on the
> floor ?
>
> nothing unusual here

%51 can be for deciding how to spend taxes

BUT NOT WHO TO TAX

taxation )handouts( )picking winners(

MUST BE DIRECT

ie, illegal to federally tax a NYer more than VA, but not illegal to tax rich more than poor. use of formula to scale taxes on super rich is typical - but questioned by , ie. it's clearly illegal to pick on a particular group to pay more taxes than another similar but protected group or to abuse the fact they are lesser in number and have "less vote" when deciding taxes, or to miscount their most likely intentions in a taxation situation. the constitution would have to be changed to allow NON-direct taxation. congress has many limitation that is one.

Ross Perot (presidiential indep. cand. 1996) argued formulaic taxation had gotten corrupt adn flat taxes should be used. Steve Forbes as well later on.

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Re: Va. House tosses out governor's vetoes
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: June 24, 2014 01:53PM

Because of our Republicans we are now officially indefinitely funding the health care needs of the poor of other states. This includes heavily Republican states like Arizona and Kentucky. We will also have higher premiums and debt ridden hospitals as a result of this.

All so Virginia Republicans can play national politics against a president that can't run for re-election.

There is no reason why ANY Virginian shouldn't hold Republicans accountable for this at the ballot box. this effects us all not just the poor whom of course have been outrageously denied an opportunity to acquire long needed critical health care needs.

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Re: Va. House tosses out governor's vetoes
Posted by: Batshit Crazy ()
Date: June 24, 2014 02:31PM

Honestly Wrote:
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> McAuliffe has watched President Obama ignore his
> oath of office and rule outside the law and is
> attempting to do the same in Virginia. It is one
> of the horrible consequences of the Obama debacle.

Learn what the fucking law is first, you mindless right-wing dumbfuck. Start by learning the difference between statute law and administrative law. What a total fucking moron!

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Re: Va. House tosses out governor's vetoes
Posted by: Stupid Asshole Sighting ()
Date: June 24, 2014 02:37PM

Honesty and Integrity Wrote:
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> Of course, in taking this money the state would be
> incurring untold future STATE spending.

You fucking moron!!! The Feds pay 100% of the costs for three years, then it declines to 90% in 2020 and all years thereafter, Meanwhile, having those 400,000 or so extra Viginians covered by Medicaid allows the state to save more from it's current health care grant programs than what the 10% would eventually cost. Goobers are SO FUCKING STUPID!

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Re: Va. House tosses out governor's vetoes
Posted by: LetsRock ()
Date: June 24, 2014 02:48PM

insane Wrote:
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> Im ashamed to live here. VA is refusing Federal
> funds to expand medicade to provide people with
> access to the doctor. WTF - the Fed want to help
> us by paying to care for our sick and we say 'no'
> on principal. That is moronic.


That "help" is temporary. Virrgina taxpayers would have to foot the entire bill shortly afterwards. I am glad this carpetbagger was slapped down.

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Re: Va. House tosses out governor's vetoes
Posted by: Where? ()
Date: June 24, 2014 02:51PM

Stupid Asshole Sighting Wrote:
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> Honesty and Integrity Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Of course, in taking this money the state would
> be
> > incurring untold future STATE spending.
>
> You fucking moron!!! The Feds pay 100% of the
> costs for three years, then it declines to 90% in
> 2020 and all years thereafter, Meanwhile, having
> those 400,000 or so extra Viginians covered by
> Medicaid allows the state to save more from it's
> current health care grant programs than what the
> 10% would eventually cost. Goobers are SO FUCKING
> STUPID!


Where does the Federal money come from?

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Re: Va. House tosses out governor's vetoes
Posted by: reston211 ()
Date: June 24, 2014 06:15PM

You and your type is the reason I vote republican.


Stupid Asshole Sighting Wrote:

>
> You fucking moron!!! The Feds pay 100% of the
> costs for three years, then it declines to 90% in
> 2020 and all years thereafter, Meanwhile, having
> those 400,000 or so extra Viginians covered by
> Medicaid allows the state to save more from it's
> current health care grant programs than what the
> 10% would eventually cost. Goobers are SO FUCKING
> STUPID!

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Re: Va. House tosses out governor's vetoes
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: June 24, 2014 10:25PM

These dumb ass Republicans don't operate in facts. They just talk out of their ass with talking points on every fucking issue. It's a waste of time to try and talk logic to these people.

Math, history, science, health, these things don't register with them.

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Re: Va. House tosses out governor's vetoes
Posted by: Creamy Mayonnaise ()
Date: June 24, 2014 10:34PM

That's because they only care about two things.

Themselves and white.

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Re: Va. House tosses out governor's vetoes
Posted by: Liberal Voice. ()
Date: June 24, 2014 10:56PM

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> These dumb ass Republicans don't operate in facts.
> They just talk out of their ass with talking
> points on every fucking issue. It's a waste of
> time to try and talk logic to these people.
>
> Math, history, science, health, these things don't
> register with them.


And logic doesn't register with turds like you Gerr. We get that.

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Re: Va. House tosses out governor's vetoes
Posted by: Liberal Voice. ()
Date: June 24, 2014 10:57PM

Where? Wrote:
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> Stupid Asshole Sighting Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Honesty and Integrity Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Of course, in taking this money the state
> would
> > be
> > > incurring untold future STATE spending.
> >
> > You fucking moron!!! The Feds pay 100% of the
> > costs for three years, then it declines to 90%
> in
> > 2020 and all years thereafter, Meanwhile,
> having
> > those 400,000 or so extra Viginians covered by
> > Medicaid allows the state to save more from
> it's
> > current health care grant programs than what
> the
> > 10% would eventually cost. Goobers are SO
> FUCKING
> > STUPID!
>
>
> Where does the Federal money come from?


Virginia taxpayers, among others of course. But don't let that confuse libtards on this website.

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Re: Va. House tosses out governor's vetoes
Posted by: Women's Studies 203 ()
Date: June 24, 2014 11:58PM

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> These dumb ass Republicans don't operate in facts.
> They just talk out of their ass with talking
> points on every fucking issue. It's a waste of
> time to try and talk logic to these people.
>


Gerry of all people complaining about talking points. Now THAT's funny.


> Math, history, science, health, these things don't
> register with them.


Says the libtard sociology major. lmao

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