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FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Benjamin B P
()
Date: June 19, 2014 05:08PM
fwivey@fcps.edu
Contact fwivey@fcps.edu and ask her why she didn't postpone this trip (boondoggle) and
keep her Administrators in the classroom the last three days of school!
Budget shortfall? I think not!
Dr. Frances W Ivey is taking a group of Administrators to a conference in Florida on the
last three days of school. FCPS, in a financial crisis, is paying round trip airfare to
Florida, salaries, and all accommodations for this Boon Doggle.
As a parent, I am sickened that the principal of my school will not be at school on the
23, 24, and 25th of June. My kids have to make up the snow days; they will spend two
to three hours locked in a hot stuffy gym, at High School. My fourth grade child has
helped the classroom teacher pack up this week. No learning is going on. Why did they
extend school for our kids, but the Administrators and higher ups get to go to Florida
and party?
Contact fwivey@fcps.edu and ask her why she didn't postpone this trip (boondoggle) and
keep her Administrators in the classroom the last three days of school!
Budget shortfall? I think not!
Dr. Frances W Ivey is taking a group of Administrators to a conference in Florida on the
last three days of school. FCPS, in a financial crisis, is paying round trip airfare to
Florida, salaries, and all accommodations for this Boon Doggle.
As a parent, I am sickened that the principal of my school will not be at school on the
23, 24, and 25th of June. My kids have to make up the snow days; they will spend two
to three hours locked in a hot stuffy gym, at High School. My fourth grade child has
helped the classroom teacher pack up this week. No learning is going on. Why did they
extend school for our kids, but the Administrators and higher ups get to go to Florida
and party?
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Principal not there 4 kids
()
Date: June 19, 2014 05:17PM
Interesting news, if true.
When the County added 3 more days to our school year, why didn't this trip get postponed? I had plans, but was told to alter mine; I could take leave but had to have a sub lined up.
How many Principals and Admins are going to Florida from Cluster V?
Our Administrators need to walk the walk, not just talk the talk.
Shame on them for wasting taxpayers money on a trip to Florida.
None of us should show up to school next Mon., Tues., or Weds.
When the County added 3 more days to our school year, why didn't this trip get postponed? I had plans, but was told to alter mine; I could take leave but had to have a sub lined up.
How many Principals and Admins are going to Florida from Cluster V?
Our Administrators need to walk the walk, not just talk the talk.
Shame on them for wasting taxpayers money on a trip to Florida.
None of us should show up to school next Mon., Tues., or Weds.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Sassypants
()
Date: June 19, 2014 05:17PM
How about you contact your state rep and complain that children do nothing after the SOL window closes so Kings Dominion and other amusement parks can take money off of Virginia's late stat to the school year. Not only does it cause VA students to start several weeks later than the other 49 states it leaves students with less time to prepare for AP/IB tests and nothing to do for 3 weeks after the SOL window closes in May.
Amusement parks are more important than your kids in politicians eyes.
Amusement parks are more important than your kids in politicians eyes.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Concerned about budget
()
Date: June 19, 2014 05:21PM
Give me the email addresses and point if contacts.
I will email not about K.D. Labor laws, but about the huge budget shortfall and the wasted money on trips.
Let them have the meetings at GMU conference center once kids are dismissed!
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> How about you contact your state rep and complain
> that children do nothing after the SOL window
> closes so Kings Dominion and other amusement parks
> can take money off of Virginia's late stat to the
> school year. Not only does it cause VA students to
> start several weeks later than the other 49 states
> it leaves students with less time to prepare for
> AP/IB tests and nothing to do for 3 weeks after
> the SOL window closes in May.
>
> Amusement parks are more important than your kids
> in politicians eyes.
I will email not about K.D. Labor laws, but about the huge budget shortfall and the wasted money on trips.
Let them have the meetings at GMU conference center once kids are dismissed!
-------------------------------------------------------
> How about you contact your state rep and complain
> that children do nothing after the SOL window
> closes so Kings Dominion and other amusement parks
> can take money off of Virginia's late stat to the
> school year. Not only does it cause VA students to
> start several weeks later than the other 49 states
> it leaves students with less time to prepare for
> AP/IB tests and nothing to do for 3 weeks after
> the SOL window closes in May.
>
> Amusement parks are more important than your kids
> in politicians eyes.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Commonsense
()
Date: June 19, 2014 05:48PM
Congratulations to all FCPS graduating seniors. Best of luck in the future.
Leaving their accomplishment aside, it is pretty clear that this year has devolved into farce in Fairfax County. It is what happens when administrators let bureaucratic imperatives drive decisions instead of putting education first.
Schools start late and have numerous non-teaching days on the schedule, disrupting learning. One of my kids' teachers once said that MLK Day to spring break was great because it was the one time in the school year that students went several weeks in a row with only a day or two off. Seems like it might be a good idea to offer students more continuity.
School administrators clearly signal that they are not serious when they meet mandatory numbers for school days with drop off-pick up days that are just a couple of hours long. Teachers are telling kids not to come to school. What message does that send kids?
SOL testing creates box checking: numbers good no worries. The schedule creates box checking. We went the right number of days, regardless of what happens in the classroom.
It appears, according to this report, that some administrators are demonstrating how seriously they take educating their students: taking off to Florida at taxpayer expense during the school year (when the schedule allows summer and numerous, numerous professional development days.
FCPS is lucky to have many bright, well-prepared students, because the system itself can't really claim to be anything special.
Leaving their accomplishment aside, it is pretty clear that this year has devolved into farce in Fairfax County. It is what happens when administrators let bureaucratic imperatives drive decisions instead of putting education first.
Schools start late and have numerous non-teaching days on the schedule, disrupting learning. One of my kids' teachers once said that MLK Day to spring break was great because it was the one time in the school year that students went several weeks in a row with only a day or two off. Seems like it might be a good idea to offer students more continuity.
School administrators clearly signal that they are not serious when they meet mandatory numbers for school days with drop off-pick up days that are just a couple of hours long. Teachers are telling kids not to come to school. What message does that send kids?
SOL testing creates box checking: numbers good no worries. The schedule creates box checking. We went the right number of days, regardless of what happens in the classroom.
It appears, according to this report, that some administrators are demonstrating how seriously they take educating their students: taking off to Florida at taxpayer expense during the school year (when the schedule allows summer and numerous, numerous professional development days.
FCPS is lucky to have many bright, well-prepared students, because the system itself can't really claim to be anything special.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
reality
()
Date: June 19, 2014 06:02PM
This smells of BS. Unless there are some names, this "rumor" can be dismissed.
The Superintendent already put the nix on all this sort of travel
The Superintendent already put the nix on all this sort of travel
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
it all about the children
()
Date: June 19, 2014 06:17PM
reality Wrote:
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> This smells of BS. Unless there are some names,
> this "rumor" can be dismissed.
>
> The Superintendent already put the nix on all this
> sort of travel
This only scratching the surface, ask about the FCPS catered affair at the atrium at Meadowlark Gardens. Auditors, we don't need no stinkin auditors
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> This smells of BS. Unless there are some names,
> this "rumor" can be dismissed.
>
> The Superintendent already put the nix on all this
> sort of travel
This only scratching the surface, ask about the FCPS catered affair at the atrium at Meadowlark Gardens. Auditors, we don't need no stinkin auditors
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Lynbrook Principal
()
Date: June 19, 2014 06:30PM
Not BS
Mary McNamee at Lynbrook ES will not be at school next week. It is because a conference was scheduled by Dr. F. Ivey.
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> reality Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > This smells of BS. Unless there are some names,
> > this "rumor" can be dismissed.
> >
> > The Superintendent already put the nix on all
> this
> > sort of travel
>
>
> This only scratching the surface, ask about the
> FCPS catered affair at the atrium at Meadowlark
> Gardens. Auditors, we don't need no stinkin
> auditors
Mary McNamee at Lynbrook ES will not be at school next week. It is because a conference was scheduled by Dr. F. Ivey.
-------------------------------------------------------
> reality Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > This smells of BS. Unless there are some names,
> > this "rumor" can be dismissed.
> >
> > The Superintendent already put the nix on all
> this
> > sort of travel
>
>
> This only scratching the surface, ask about the
> FCPS catered affair at the atrium at Meadowlark
> Gardens. Auditors, we don't need no stinkin
> auditors
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Save taxpayer dollars
()
Date: June 19, 2014 06:36PM
Frances W. Ivey is the person listed in the OP's post.
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> Not BS
>
> Mary McNamee at Lynbrook ES will not be at school
> next week. It is because a conference was
> scheduled by Dr. F. Ivey.
>
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > reality Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > This smells of BS. Unless there are some
> names,
> > > this "rumor" can be dismissed.
> > >
> > > The Superintendent already put the nix on all
> > this
> > > sort of travel
> >
> >
> > This only scratching the surface, ask about the
> > FCPS catered affair at the atrium at Meadowlark
> > Gardens. Auditors, we don't need no stinkin
> > auditors
-------------------------------------------------------
> Not BS
>
> Mary McNamee at Lynbrook ES will not be at school
> next week. It is because a conference was
> scheduled by Dr. F. Ivey.
>
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > reality Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > This smells of BS. Unless there are some
> names,
> > > this "rumor" can be dismissed.
> > >
> > > The Superintendent already put the nix on all
> > this
> > > sort of travel
> >
> >
> > This only scratching the surface, ask about the
> > FCPS catered affair at the atrium at Meadowlark
> > Gardens. Auditors, we don't need no stinkin
> > auditors
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
class size doesn't matter
()
Date: June 19, 2014 06:37PM
This is why the meals tax won't pass
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
disgusto
()
Date: June 19, 2014 06:40PM
This is a bunch of unsubstantiated trolling. One name does not a conference make. And class size does matter--classes of 31 mean your kid gets zero attention
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Golden ones
()
Date: June 19, 2014 07:23PM
Frances W. Ivey
-------------------------------------------------------
> fwivey@fcps.edu
>
> Contact fwivey@fcps.edu and ask her why she didn't
> postpone this trip (boondoggle) and
> keep her Administrators in the classroom the last
> three days of school!
>
> Budget shortfall? I think not!
>
> Dr. Frances W Ivey is taking a group of
> Administrators to a conference in Florida on the
> last three days of school. FCPS, in a financial
> crisis, is paying round trip airfare to
> Florida, salaries, and all accommodations for this
> Boon Doggle.
>
> As a parent, I am sickened that the principal of
> my school will not be at school on the
> 23, 24, and 25th of June. My kids have to make
> up the snow days; they will spend two
> to three hours locked in a hot stuffy gym, at High
> School. My fourth grade child has
> helped the classroom teacher pack up this week.
> No learning is going on. Why did they
> extend school for our kids, but the Administrators
> and higher ups get to go to Florida
> and party?
-------------------------------------------------------
> fwivey@fcps.edu
>
> Contact fwivey@fcps.edu and ask her why she didn't
> postpone this trip (boondoggle) and
> keep her Administrators in the classroom the last
> three days of school!
>
> Budget shortfall? I think not!
>
> Dr. Frances W Ivey is taking a group of
> Administrators to a conference in Florida on the
> last three days of school. FCPS, in a financial
> crisis, is paying round trip airfare to
> Florida, salaries, and all accommodations for this
> Boon Doggle.
>
> As a parent, I am sickened that the principal of
> my school will not be at school on the
> 23, 24, and 25th of June. My kids have to make
> up the snow days; they will spend two
> to three hours locked in a hot stuffy gym, at High
> School. My fourth grade child has
> helped the classroom teacher pack up this week.
> No learning is going on. Why did they
> extend school for our kids, but the Administrators
> and higher ups get to go to Florida
> and party?
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Bump I'm Mom of 3
()
Date: June 19, 2014 08:24PM
For the .mom of three.
I agree with you.
School should end 20 June. Period!
-------------------------------------------------------
> Congratulations to all FCPS graduating seniors.
> Best of luck in the future.
>
> Leaving their accomplishment aside, it is pretty
> clear that this year has devolved into farce in
> Fairfax County. It is what happens when
> administrators let bureaucratic imperatives drive
> decisions instead of putting education first.
>
> Schools start late and have numerous non-teaching
> days on the schedule, disrupting learning. One of
> my kids' teachers once said that MLK Day to spring
> break was great because it was the one time in the
> school year that students went several weeks in a
> row with only a day or two off. Seems like it
> might be a good idea to offer students more
> continuity.
>
> School administrators clearly signal that they are
> not serious when they meet mandatory numbers for
> school days with drop off-pick up days that are
> just a couple of hours long. Teachers are telling
> kids not to come to school. What message does that
> send kids?
>
> SOL testing creates box checking: numbers good no
> worries. The schedule creates box checking. We
> went the right number of days, regardless of what
> happens in the classroom.
>
> It appears, according to this report, that some
> administrators are demonstrating how seriously
> they take educating their students: taking off to
> Florida at taxpayer expense during the school year
> (when the schedule allows summer and numerous,
> numerous professional development days.
>
> FCPS is lucky to have many bright, well-prepared
> students, because the system itself can't really
> claim to be anything special.
I agree with you.
School should end 20 June. Period!
-------------------------------------------------------
> Congratulations to all FCPS graduating seniors.
> Best of luck in the future.
>
> Leaving their accomplishment aside, it is pretty
> clear that this year has devolved into farce in
> Fairfax County. It is what happens when
> administrators let bureaucratic imperatives drive
> decisions instead of putting education first.
>
> Schools start late and have numerous non-teaching
> days on the schedule, disrupting learning. One of
> my kids' teachers once said that MLK Day to spring
> break was great because it was the one time in the
> school year that students went several weeks in a
> row with only a day or two off. Seems like it
> might be a good idea to offer students more
> continuity.
>
> School administrators clearly signal that they are
> not serious when they meet mandatory numbers for
> school days with drop off-pick up days that are
> just a couple of hours long. Teachers are telling
> kids not to come to school. What message does that
> send kids?
>
> SOL testing creates box checking: numbers good no
> worries. The schedule creates box checking. We
> went the right number of days, regardless of what
> happens in the classroom.
>
> It appears, according to this report, that some
> administrators are demonstrating how seriously
> they take educating their students: taking off to
> Florida at taxpayer expense during the school year
> (when the schedule allows summer and numerous,
> numerous professional development days.
>
> FCPS is lucky to have many bright, well-prepared
> students, because the system itself can't really
> claim to be anything special.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
True
()
Date: June 19, 2014 09:10PM
It's true.
There are a LOT of administrators countywide attending a conference June 23-25. I didn't know it was in Florida, but it did bug me that: 1. They're not at school during sone of the most behaviorally challenging days of the school year, and 2. Not a very politically savvy thing to do when the school board is faced with cuts to programs and personnel to send a lot of people to a 3-day conference.
There are a LOT of administrators countywide attending a conference June 23-25. I didn't know it was in Florida, but it did bug me that: 1. They're not at school during sone of the most behaviorally challenging days of the school year, and 2. Not a very politically savvy thing to do when the school board is faced with cuts to programs and personnel to send a lot of people to a 3-day conference.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Retardz unite
()
Date: June 19, 2014 09:12PM
Can the Retardz figure out a solution, they are the smart ones
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
This is probably it
()
Date: June 19, 2014 09:37PM
Is this possibly the conference?:
http://www.cvent.com/events/22nd-annual-model-schools-conference/event-summary-6616a1a49681447aa6508967e90f3f61.aspx?RefID=LeaderED&ct=59458a8c-b962-4
Notice that a district in Wisconsin came under fire for going to this:
http://www.lakelandtimes.com/main.asp?SectionID=9&SubSectionID=9&ArticleID=16150
http://www.cvent.com/events/22nd-annual-model-schools-conference/event-summary-6616a1a49681447aa6508967e90f3f61.aspx?RefID=LeaderED&ct=59458a8c-b962-4
Notice that a district in Wisconsin came under fire for going to this:
http://www.lakelandtimes.com/main.asp?SectionID=9&SubSectionID=9&ArticleID=16150
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Fed up geez
()
Date: June 19, 2014 10:02PM
How can they justify this?
Walk the walk and be in school for the kids, teachers, and community.
> It's true.
There are a LOT of administrators countywide attending a conference June 23-25. I didn't know it was in Florida, but it did bug me that: 1. They're not at school during sone of the most behaviorally challenging days of the school year, and 2. Not a very politically savvy thing to do when the school board is faced with cuts to programs and personnel to send a lot of people to a 3-day conference.
>
> http://www.cvent.com/events/22nd-annual-model-scho
> ols-conference/event-summary-6616a1a49681447aa6508
> 967e90f3f61.aspx?RefID=LeaderED&ct=59458a8c-b962-4
>
>
>
> Notice that a district in Wisconsin came under
> fire for going to this:
>
>
> http://www.lakelandtimes.com/main.asp?SectionID=9&;
> SubSectionID=9&ArticleID=16150
Walk the walk and be in school for the kids, teachers, and community.
> It's true.
There are a LOT of administrators countywide attending a conference June 23-25. I didn't know it was in Florida, but it did bug me that: 1. They're not at school during sone of the most behaviorally challenging days of the school year, and 2. Not a very politically savvy thing to do when the school board is faced with cuts to programs and personnel to send a lot of people to a 3-day conference.
>
> http://www.cvent.com/events/22nd-annual-model-scho
> ols-conference/event-summary-6616a1a49681447aa6508
> 967e90f3f61.aspx?RefID=LeaderED&ct=59458a8c-b962-4
>
>
>
> Notice that a district in Wisconsin came under
> fire for going to this:
>
>
> http://www.lakelandtimes.com/main.asp?SectionID=9&;
> SubSectionID=9&ArticleID=16150
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Washington Post
()
Date: June 19, 2014 10:08PM
Surprising the press hasn't caught wind of this yet.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Honestly
()
Date: June 19, 2014 10:19PM
I read the link to the conference by "This is probably it" (Thank you).
If this is the conference, they really know how to sling educational buzzwords. Do Fairfax County taxpayers have to pay extra per buzzword.
If this is the conference, they really know how to sling educational buzzwords. Do Fairfax County taxpayers have to pay extra per buzzword.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
County Employee
()
Date: June 19, 2014 10:53PM
They're going to tax you regardless, who cares if they go to a conference? The link looks legit to me.
Rules are rules with the school days. Being an elementary school teacher I can tell you 2/3 of the school's students have already done the paper work to state they are coming in next week and no one cares. What do you want the county to say? Yes, it is a meaningless few days, but your taxes are paying for child care and it is optional whether the child attends or not. If you don't like it keep them home, if you want to send them away for a few hours send them in.
It is amazing how obnoxious parents can be with their constant whining and nagging.
Rules are rules with the school days. Being an elementary school teacher I can tell you 2/3 of the school's students have already done the paper work to state they are coming in next week and no one cares. What do you want the county to say? Yes, it is a meaningless few days, but your taxes are paying for child care and it is optional whether the child attends or not. If you don't like it keep them home, if you want to send them away for a few hours send them in.
It is amazing how obnoxious parents can be with their constant whining and nagging.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
#Buzzword
()
Date: June 19, 2014 10:56PM
You should be less concerned about the spending for a few days in Florida and more concerned about the ever increasing costs of trying to educate all these poor third world kids coming into our system. I'm not blaming them, but it's not like they make things easy either. ESOL programs, special assistants, special menus, and let us not forget we now have an entirely new group for the "achievement gap". Way to fucking go America.
Besides, it's not like your job never gave you anything nice for being a good employee. But maybe I'm in a minority in that I have an employer who treats me well because I bust my ass for them.
Besides, it's not like your job never gave you anything nice for being a good employee. But maybe I'm in a minority in that I have an employer who treats me well because I bust my ass for them.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Modelschools
()
Date: June 19, 2014 11:27PM
Our principal said he was attending a "leadership conference" during the last three days of school, too, but didn't mention it was in Florida. It seems to me that as soon as we started using teacher workdays and federal holidays as snow make-up days, anything taking administrators away from schools during the published make-up days at the end of the year should have been cancelled. Even if the administrators learn something at the conference, it seems there must be a cheaper and less offensive way to teach them good leadership -- like fiscal and educational responsibility!
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
bvnFp
()
Date: June 20, 2014 05:54AM
Going to Florida this time of year is HELL. Grossly Hot and humid. They should be made to stay as punishment.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
why oh why
()
Date: June 20, 2014 10:51AM
They should have had Boosterthon pay for it. A fun run for the admins to go to Florida? Why not?
Or they could raise the admission fee for the turf fields. Just think if we had the Trolley, one day a week the fare could be higher to pay for these conferences.
They are just hoping the meals tax gets approved.
Or they could raise the admission fee for the turf fields. Just think if we had the Trolley, one day a week the fare could be higher to pay for these conferences.
They are just hoping the meals tax gets approved.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
if you really knew
()
Date: June 20, 2014 11:10AM
I would like to see a list of what they use the County credit cards to pay for on these trips. I know in the past there have been unauthorized items purchased.....again no accountability
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
What's covered?
()
Date: June 20, 2014 12:56PM
Conference registration, 4 nights in the disney world swan resort, all airfare, cab fare, airport parking, and all meals.
Multiply that by all of the administrators going, and that's a chunk of change.
Multiply that by all of the administrators going, and that's a chunk of change.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Stabitha
()
Date: June 20, 2014 01:02PM
bvnFp Wrote:
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> Going to Florida this time of year is HELL.
> Grossly Hot and humid. They should be made to stay
> as punishment.
Actually worse here.
When it was 97 in DC the other day, it was 83 in Palm Bay FL where I am SE of Orlando.
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> Going to Florida this time of year is HELL.
> Grossly Hot and humid. They should be made to stay
> as punishment.
Actually worse here.
When it was 97 in DC the other day, it was 83 in Palm Bay FL where I am SE of Orlando.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Walt Disney resort
()
Date: June 20, 2014 04:35PM
They will be pool side, or in the A C
These admins should be with their students the last three days of school.
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> bvnFp Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Going to Florida this time of year is HELL.
> > Grossly Hot and humid. They should be made to
> stay
> > as punishment.
>
> Actually worse here.
>
> When it was 97 in DC the other day, it was 83 in
> Palm Bay FL where I am SE of Orlando.
These admins should be with their students the last three days of school.
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> bvnFp Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Going to Florida this time of year is HELL.
> > Grossly Hot and humid. They should be made to
> stay
> > as punishment.
>
> Actually worse here.
>
> When it was 97 in DC the other day, it was 83 in
> Palm Bay FL where I am SE of Orlando.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Too dang tired
()
Date: June 20, 2014 04:43PM
Please don't make the teachers make up days on TWD while the Admins are off to a leadership conference that requires expensive travel, lodging, and food. Plus per diem.
I hope that the media picks up on this!
Our principal said he was attending a "leadership conference" during the last three days of school, too, but didn't mention it was in Florida. It seems to me that as soon as we started using teacher workdays and federal holidays as snow make-up days, anything taking administrators away from schools during the published make-up days at the end of the year should have been cancelled. Even if the administrators learn something at the conference, it seems there must be a cheaper and less offensive way to teach them good leadership -- like fiscal and educational responsibility!
I hope that the media picks up on this!
Our principal said he was attending a "leadership conference" during the last three days of school, too, but didn't mention it was in Florida. It seems to me that as soon as we started using teacher workdays and federal holidays as snow make-up days, anything taking administrators away from schools during the published make-up days at the end of the year should have been cancelled. Even if the administrators learn something at the conference, it seems there must be a cheaper and less offensive way to teach them good leadership -- like fiscal and educational responsibility!
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
not the same
()
Date: June 20, 2014 04:45PM
"Besides, it's not like your job never gave you anything nice for being a good employee. But maybe I'm in a minority in that I have an employer who treats me well because I bust my ass for them."
You don't get it. This is tax money and there are plenty of good employees working for FCPS who bust their asses and never get to go to fancy resorts. They are called TEACHERS. In FCPS this kind of thing causes resentment towards the administrators. It is not a good thing. The other issue is that this conference is run by people who are less than stellar (read the second article mentioned above).
The "nice thing" that teachers would like their employer to give them is a RAISE (after so many years of not getting one).
You don't get it. This is tax money and there are plenty of good employees working for FCPS who bust their asses and never get to go to fancy resorts. They are called TEACHERS. In FCPS this kind of thing causes resentment towards the administrators. It is not a good thing. The other issue is that this conference is run by people who are less than stellar (read the second article mentioned above).
The "nice thing" that teachers would like their employer to give them is a RAISE (after so many years of not getting one).
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
say what
()
Date: June 20, 2014 05:00PM
So if FCPS is one of the top school systems in the country as they always horn blow about, shouldn't other school districts be coming here to a seminar to get something from them.?
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Poverty schools failed SOLs
()
Date: June 20, 2014 05:28PM
Non comment
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
lured in
()
Date: June 20, 2014 05:51PM
Three days in Florida at a conference isn't going to change any SOL scores. If this were the answer, it would sure be easy to fix our problems. These conferences are like snake oil. We buy the oil; they make lots of money.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
label on the oil
()
Date: June 20, 2014 06:00PM
The website for this conference says:
"Your entire team will walk away with concrete, real-world tested strategies
to transform instruction for the demands of the Common Core"
I can't wait to find out what the "concrete, real-world tested strategies" will be and how they will "transform instruction for the demands of the Common Core" (which we do not have in Virginia). I'll bet we won't hear a thing about them or anything else as a result of this. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.
"Your entire team will walk away with concrete, real-world tested strategies
to transform instruction for the demands of the Common Core"
I can't wait to find out what the "concrete, real-world tested strategies" will be and how they will "transform instruction for the demands of the Common Core" (which we do not have in Virginia). I'll bet we won't hear a thing about them or anything else as a result of this. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Vomit
()
Date: June 20, 2014 06:57PM
May I go Throw up now?
model schools........ my Ass
-------------------------------------------------------
> The website for this conference says:
>
> "Your entire team will walk away with concrete,
> real-world tested strategies
> to transform instruction for the demands of the
> Common Core"
>
> I can't wait to find out what the "concrete,
> real-world tested strategies" will be and how they
> will "transform instruction for the demands of the
> Common Core" (which we do not have in Virginia).
> I'll bet we won't hear a thing about them or
> anything else as a result of this. If it sounds
> too good to be true, it probably is.
model schools........ my Ass
-------------------------------------------------------
> The website for this conference says:
>
> "Your entire team will walk away with concrete,
> real-world tested strategies
> to transform instruction for the demands of the
> Common Core"
>
> I can't wait to find out what the "concrete,
> real-world tested strategies" will be and how they
> will "transform instruction for the demands of the
> Common Core" (which we do not have in Virginia).
> I'll bet we won't hear a thing about them or
> anything else as a result of this. If it sounds
> too good to be true, it probably is.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
repeat of the Las Vegas fiasco
()
Date: June 20, 2014 06:57PM
Hopefully the participants will be stupid enough to post photos on social media of all the "learning" they are doing. Maybe the Post would publish them the way that they published numerous articles on Garza's big shake up strategies and the budget shortfall, ad nauseum.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
WHY NOT??????????
()
Date: June 20, 2014 08:31PM
if you really knew Wrote:
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> I would like to see a list of what they use the
> County credit cards to pay for on these trips. I
> know in the past there have been unauthorized
> items purchased.....again no accountability
Somebody FOIA the records on this trip and post them on the Underground. There is a thread running on the parking pass slush fund that you might find interesting. I had no idea this was going on. I have three kids in the system and several years to go on this. It all seems to revolve around taking care of the admin people, and sometimes the staff also.
-------------------------------------------------------
> I would like to see a list of what they use the
> County credit cards to pay for on these trips. I
> know in the past there have been unauthorized
> items purchased.....again no accountability
Somebody FOIA the records on this trip and post them on the Underground. There is a thread running on the parking pass slush fund that you might find interesting. I had no idea this was going on. I have three kids in the system and several years to go on this. It all seems to revolve around taking care of the admin people, and sometimes the staff also.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Ivey's bake sale
()
Date: June 20, 2014 08:38PM
Tomorrow Cluster 5, Region 3, will be holding a car wash at GateHouse.
Donations only.
Also, A GoFund Me account is being created, once it has approval from Garza!
Donations only.
Also, A GoFund Me account is being created, once it has approval from Garza!
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Manure
()
Date: June 20, 2014 08:44PM
Garza said that “everything is on the table” as the school system seeks to address the projected $140 million shortfall.
Oh, except for the all expense paid Walt Disney World Swan and Dolphin Resort, Model School Conference.
And the other perks, including a golden parachute, for a few of the execs.
Oh, except for the all expense paid Walt Disney World Swan and Dolphin Resort, Model School Conference.
And the other perks, including a golden parachute, for a few of the execs.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
oh ya, its going on
()
Date: June 20, 2014 09:02PM
Manure Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Garza said that “everything is on the table”
> as the school system seeks to address the
> projected $140 million shortfall.
>
> Oh, except for the all expense paid Walt Disney
> World Swan and Dolphin Resort, Model School
> Conference.
> And the other perks, including a golden parachute,
> for a few of the execs.
A couple years ago they sent all the higher ups to a team building meeting at the Greenbrier or some other golf resort, this is nothing new and obviously will not stop as long as the superintendent cries they need more money and the BOS caves and gives it to them, no questions asked. At your next PTA meeting, just ask your principal has much he or she gets for his or her slush fund and which caterers and restaurants it was spent at feeding the admin staff throughout the year.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Garza said that “everything is on the table”
> as the school system seeks to address the
> projected $140 million shortfall.
>
> Oh, except for the all expense paid Walt Disney
> World Swan and Dolphin Resort, Model School
> Conference.
> And the other perks, including a golden parachute,
> for a few of the execs.
A couple years ago they sent all the higher ups to a team building meeting at the Greenbrier or some other golf resort, this is nothing new and obviously will not stop as long as the superintendent cries they need more money and the BOS caves and gives it to them, no questions asked. At your next PTA meeting, just ask your principal has much he or she gets for his or her slush fund and which caterers and restaurants it was spent at feeding the admin staff throughout the year.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Save Money FCPS!!!
()
Date: June 20, 2014 09:09PM
Stop spending my hard-earned tax dollars on things!!!
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Not seeing Forest OR Trees
()
Date: June 20, 2014 09:22PM
oh ya, its going on Wrote:
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> A couple years ago they sent all the higher ups to
> a team building meeting at the Greenbrier or some
> other golf resort, this is nothing new...
You're exactly right -- it's nothing new at all. Why are people so bent out of shape over it? Organizations large and small in both the public and private sectors invest significant sums in staff development because it makes them better organizations in the long run. I have to wonder whether you head-in-a-sack whiner people could successfully run a lemonade stand.
-------------------------------------------------------
> A couple years ago they sent all the higher ups to
> a team building meeting at the Greenbrier or some
> other golf resort, this is nothing new...
You're exactly right -- it's nothing new at all. Why are people so bent out of shape over it? Organizations large and small in both the public and private sectors invest significant sums in staff development because it makes them better organizations in the long run. I have to wonder whether you head-in-a-sack whiner people could successfully run a lemonade stand.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
just do it
()
Date: June 20, 2014 09:26PM
oh ya, its going on Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Manure Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Garza said that “everything is on the
> table”
> > as the school system seeks to address the
> > projected $140 million shortfall.
> >
> > Oh, except for the all expense paid Walt Disney
> > World Swan and Dolphin Resort, Model School
> > Conference.
> > And the other perks, including a golden
> parachute,
> > for a few of the execs.
>
>
> A couple years ago they sent all the higher ups to
> a team building meeting at the Greenbrier or some
> other golf resort, this is nothing new and
> obviously will not stop as long as the
> superintendent cries they need more money and the
> BOS caves and gives it to them, no questions
> asked. At your next PTA meeting, just ask your
> principal has much he or she gets for his or her
> slush fund and which caterers and restaurants it
> was spent at feeding the admin staff throughout
> the year.
You don't have to ask the principal or wait for a PTA meeting. Ask to see the Educational Contingency Account. They have to show it to you. You either ask at the front office or send a request to the DCCO office. You will have your information within 12 working days.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Manure Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Garza said that “everything is on the
> table”
> > as the school system seeks to address the
> > projected $140 million shortfall.
> >
> > Oh, except for the all expense paid Walt Disney
> > World Swan and Dolphin Resort, Model School
> > Conference.
> > And the other perks, including a golden
> parachute,
> > for a few of the execs.
>
>
> A couple years ago they sent all the higher ups to
> a team building meeting at the Greenbrier or some
> other golf resort, this is nothing new and
> obviously will not stop as long as the
> superintendent cries they need more money and the
> BOS caves and gives it to them, no questions
> asked. At your next PTA meeting, just ask your
> principal has much he or she gets for his or her
> slush fund and which caterers and restaurants it
> was spent at feeding the admin staff throughout
> the year.
You don't have to ask the principal or wait for a PTA meeting. Ask to see the Educational Contingency Account. They have to show it to you. You either ask at the front office or send a request to the DCCO office. You will have your information within 12 working days.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
too funny
()
Date: June 20, 2014 09:31PM
Ivey's bake sale Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Tomorrow Cluster 5, Region 3, will be holding a
> car wash at GateHouse.
> Donations only.
>
> Also, A GoFund Me account is being created, once
> it has approval from Garza!
Crap this is TOO funny.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Tomorrow Cluster 5, Region 3, will be holding a
> car wash at GateHouse.
> Donations only.
>
> Also, A GoFund Me account is being created, once
> it has approval from Garza!
Crap this is TOO funny.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
send more people
()
Date: June 20, 2014 10:20PM
"Organizations large and small in both the public and private sectors invest significant sums in staff development because it makes them better organizations in the long run."
Understood. It doesn't seem like this has been working so well in FCPS. Maybe we need to spend even more at resorts like this one so that we get better results on our SOLs, etc. I can see that there is a direct connection here.
Understood. It doesn't seem like this has been working so well in FCPS. Maybe we need to spend even more at resorts like this one so that we get better results on our SOLs, etc. I can see that there is a direct connection here.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
jEeJ6
()
Date: June 20, 2014 10:38PM
Not seeing Forest OR Trees Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> oh ya, its going on Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > A couple years ago they sent all the higher ups
> to
> > a team building meeting at the Greenbrier or
> some
> > other golf resort, this is nothing new...
>
> You're exactly right -- it's nothing new at all.
> Why are people so bent out of shape over it?
> Organizations large and small in both the public
> and private sectors invest significant sums in
> staff development because it makes them better
> organizations in the long run. I have to wonder
> whether you head-in-a-sack whiner people could
> successfully run a lemonade stand.
And everyone from those organizations who's been to these things knows that they're mostly just an excuse to go to a nice resort somewhere for everyone involved. If they planned the exact same conference in Cleveland, suddenly it wouldn't be nearly as important to attend. lol
-------------------------------------------------------
> oh ya, its going on Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > A couple years ago they sent all the higher ups
> to
> > a team building meeting at the Greenbrier or
> some
> > other golf resort, this is nothing new...
>
> You're exactly right -- it's nothing new at all.
> Why are people so bent out of shape over it?
> Organizations large and small in both the public
> and private sectors invest significant sums in
> staff development because it makes them better
> organizations in the long run. I have to wonder
> whether you head-in-a-sack whiner people could
> successfully run a lemonade stand.
And everyone from those organizations who's been to these things knows that they're mostly just an excuse to go to a nice resort somewhere for everyone involved. If they planned the exact same conference in Cleveland, suddenly it wouldn't be nearly as important to attend. lol
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
comedy of errors
()
Date: June 20, 2014 10:40PM
" I have to wonder whether you head-in-a-sack whiner people could successfully run a lemonade stand."
Hmmm. I have to wonder the same thing about the administration of FCPS. Scroll down and watch the video showing the guy who heads this:
conference:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gerald-bracey/educations-baron-von-munc_b_101667.html
Hmmm. I have to wonder the same thing about the administration of FCPS. Scroll down and watch the video showing the guy who heads this:
conference:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gerald-bracey/educations-baron-von-munc_b_101667.html
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
FvNkF
()
Date: June 20, 2014 11:06PM
comedy of errors Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> " I have to wonder whether you head-in-a-sack
> whiner people could successfully run a lemonade
> stand."
>
>
>
> Hmmm. I have to wonder the same thing about the
> administration of FCPS. Scroll down and watch the
> video showing the guy who heads this:
>
> conference:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gerald-br
> acey/educations-baron-von-munc_b_101667.html
That's funny. Lots of similar stuff out there. Basically makes him look like a con artist.
Scholastic owns a piece of the pie so I guess that explains why they're shown as a partner.
New York, NY (June 8, 2007) -- Scholastic, the global children’s publishing, education and media company, today announced that it has entered a five-year agreement with Dr. Bill Daggett and will acquire the stock of the International Center for Leadership in Education (ICLE) and join forces to provide greater support to school districts seeking whole school reform.
-------------------------------------------------------
> " I have to wonder whether you head-in-a-sack
> whiner people could successfully run a lemonade
> stand."
>
>
>
> Hmmm. I have to wonder the same thing about the
> administration of FCPS. Scroll down and watch the
> video showing the guy who heads this:
>
> conference:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gerald-br
> acey/educations-baron-von-munc_b_101667.html
That's funny. Lots of similar stuff out there. Basically makes him look like a con artist.
Scholastic owns a piece of the pie so I guess that explains why they're shown as a partner.
New York, NY (June 8, 2007) -- Scholastic, the global children’s publishing, education and media company, today announced that it has entered a five-year agreement with Dr. Bill Daggett and will acquire the stock of the International Center for Leadership in Education (ICLE) and join forces to provide greater support to school districts seeking whole school reform.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
laughing louder
()
Date: June 20, 2014 11:10PM
I guess FCPS admin isn't much different from Cobb County:
http://mdjonline.com/bookmark/18424798-Pete-Borden-Conference-an-obscene-waste-of-tax-money
http://mdjonline.com/bookmark/18424798-Pete-Borden-Conference-an-obscene-waste-of-tax-money
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Not Seeing Forest OR Trees
()
Date: June 20, 2014 11:40PM
send more people Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> "Organizations large and small in both the public
> and private sectors invest significant sums in
> staff development because it makes them better
> organizations in the long run."
>
> Understood. It doesn't seem like this has been
> working so well in FCPS.
What the fuck would YOU know about it, you ignorant clown? Are you in any position to access and assess information regarding the success of staff development programs ANYWHERE, much less within FCPS? What a fucking goober!
> Maybe we need to spend even more at resorts like this
> one so that we get better results on our SOLs, etc.
> I can see that there is a direct connection here.
You're too stupid to see even block lettering writ large on a brightly illuminated wall. The Disney Institute has run very well-regarded development programs for years. I'm sure I don't have to tell you that they are a very successful organization. The lessons they have learned in achieving and building on that success are eminently usable in other organizations looking for similar results. Many people can benefit from the courses and seminars they have put together, but I imagine it would all be wasted on you in particular.
-------------------------------------------------------
> "Organizations large and small in both the public
> and private sectors invest significant sums in
> staff development because it makes them better
> organizations in the long run."
>
> Understood. It doesn't seem like this has been
> working so well in FCPS.
What the fuck would YOU know about it, you ignorant clown? Are you in any position to access and assess information regarding the success of staff development programs ANYWHERE, much less within FCPS? What a fucking goober!
> Maybe we need to spend even more at resorts like this
> one so that we get better results on our SOLs, etc.
> I can see that there is a direct connection here.
You're too stupid to see even block lettering writ large on a brightly illuminated wall. The Disney Institute has run very well-regarded development programs for years. I'm sure I don't have to tell you that they are a very successful organization. The lessons they have learned in achieving and building on that success are eminently usable in other organizations looking for similar results. Many people can benefit from the courses and seminars they have put together, but I imagine it would all be wasted on you in particular.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Not Seeing Forest OR Trees
()
Date: June 21, 2014 12:14AM
jEeJ6 Wrote:
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> And everyone from those organizations who's been
> to these things knows that they're mostly just an
> excuse to go to a nice resort somewhere for
> everyone involved.
Speak for yourself, douchebag. Obviously, you've never been among the ones nominated to go. You don't drill for oil where you know there's no chance of hitting any.
> If they planned the exact same conference in
> Cleveland, suddenly it wouldn't be nearly as
> important to attend. lol
Come on, goober. All sorts of seminars are held in Cleveland all the time. Hundreds of them. They draw from all over. You can't possibly be that dumb. Have you ever even been to Cleveland, or is it just too scary for you there? As for after-seminar R&R, everybody knows about City Center and the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, but there's much more to see and do there than just that. Even if you never go inside, the Museum of Contemporary Art is a must-see attraction for the non-mindless.
-------------------------------------------------------
> And everyone from those organizations who's been
> to these things knows that they're mostly just an
> excuse to go to a nice resort somewhere for
> everyone involved.
Speak for yourself, douchebag. Obviously, you've never been among the ones nominated to go. You don't drill for oil where you know there's no chance of hitting any.
> If they planned the exact same conference in
> Cleveland, suddenly it wouldn't be nearly as
> important to attend. lol
Come on, goober. All sorts of seminars are held in Cleveland all the time. Hundreds of them. They draw from all over. You can't possibly be that dumb. Have you ever even been to Cleveland, or is it just too scary for you there? As for after-seminar R&R, everybody knows about City Center and the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, but there's much more to see and do there than just that. Even if you never go inside, the Museum of Contemporary Art is a must-see attraction for the non-mindless.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Not Seeing Forest OR Trees
()
Date: June 21, 2014 12:34AM
comedy of errors Wrote:
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> Hmmm. I have to wonder the same thing about the
> administration of FCPS. Scroll down and watch the
> video showing the guy who heads this:
You contend that Willard Daggett heads FCPS staff development programs? I don't think so, goobster! See if the bartender will pour you another double.
.
Attachments:
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> Hmmm. I have to wonder the same thing about the
> administration of FCPS. Scroll down and watch the
> video showing the guy who heads this:
You contend that Willard Daggett heads FCPS staff development programs? I don't think so, goobster! See if the bartender will pour you another double.
.
Attachments:
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Not Seeing Forest OR Trees
()
Date: June 21, 2014 12:39AM
laughing louder Wrote:
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> I guess FCPS admin isn't much different from Cobb County:
Seems like there might have been a case of no due diligence down there in Cobb. Poor them. But after all, it's only Jawjah. What can you expect.
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> I guess FCPS admin isn't much different from Cobb County:
Seems like there might have been a case of no due diligence down there in Cobb. Poor them. But after all, it's only Jawjah. What can you expect.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
deFMm
()
Date: June 21, 2014 01:31AM
Not Seeing Forest OR Trees Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> jEeJ6 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > And everyone from those organizations who's
> been
> > to these things knows that they're mostly just
> an
> > excuse to go to a nice resort somewhere for
> > everyone involved.
>
> Speak for yourself, douchebag. Obviously, you've
> never been among the ones nominated to go. You
> don't drill for oil where you know there's no
> chance of hitting any.
>
> > If they planned the exact same conference in
> > Cleveland, suddenly it wouldn't be nearly as
> > important to attend. lol
>
> Come on, goober. All sorts of seminars are held
> in Cleveland all the time. Hundreds of them.
> They draw from all over. You can't possibly be
> that dumb. Have you ever even been to Cleveland,
> or is it just too scary for you there? As for
> after-seminar R&R, everybody knows about City
> Center and the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, but
> there's much more to see and do there than just
> that. Even if you never go inside, the Museum of
> Contemporary Art is a must-see attraction for the
> non-mindless.
Actually I've been to the same hotels where this is being held many times. Among many others elsewhere. Including 'beautiful' Cleveland. It sucked.
This single facility in Orlando probably holds more conferences in a week or two than Cleveland does in a year. Likewise other more desirable locations. Which is why they have them there. Because people will come. (Duh) Especially the half-assed purely for-profit shows like this which can't draw otherwise.
-------------------------------------------------------
> jEeJ6 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > And everyone from those organizations who's
> been
> > to these things knows that they're mostly just
> an
> > excuse to go to a nice resort somewhere for
> > everyone involved.
>
> Speak for yourself, douchebag. Obviously, you've
> never been among the ones nominated to go. You
> don't drill for oil where you know there's no
> chance of hitting any.
>
> > If they planned the exact same conference in
> > Cleveland, suddenly it wouldn't be nearly as
> > important to attend. lol
>
> Come on, goober. All sorts of seminars are held
> in Cleveland all the time. Hundreds of them.
> They draw from all over. You can't possibly be
> that dumb. Have you ever even been to Cleveland,
> or is it just too scary for you there? As for
> after-seminar R&R, everybody knows about City
> Center and the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, but
> there's much more to see and do there than just
> that. Even if you never go inside, the Museum of
> Contemporary Art is a must-see attraction for the
> non-mindless.
Actually I've been to the same hotels where this is being held many times. Among many others elsewhere. Including 'beautiful' Cleveland. It sucked.
This single facility in Orlando probably holds more conferences in a week or two than Cleveland does in a year. Likewise other more desirable locations. Which is why they have them there. Because people will come. (Duh) Especially the half-assed purely for-profit shows like this which can't draw otherwise.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Not Seeing Forest OR Trees
()
Date: June 21, 2014 03:58AM
Of course. As it is evident, I'll go ahead and admit it.
I work for one of the best Administrators in the FCPS, and I'm proud to defend ALL of the administrators ... especially the ones that brought their spouses to the event, and extended their stays for a little mini-vacation. Being an administrator is a damn sight more difficult than teaching a class or three. All of them have earned a little R-and-R plus education, as well as the bonus-points for professional development that appear in their annual performance reviews.
I say more such investments! More often! And, for more administrators!
I work for one of the best Administrators in the FCPS, and I'm proud to defend ALL of the administrators ... especially the ones that brought their spouses to the event, and extended their stays for a little mini-vacation. Being an administrator is a damn sight more difficult than teaching a class or three. All of them have earned a little R-and-R plus education, as well as the bonus-points for professional development that appear in their annual performance reviews.
I say more such investments! More often! And, for more administrators!
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
cluster car wash?
()
Date: June 21, 2014 08:24AM
too funny Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Ivey's bake sale Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Tomorrow Cluster 5, Region 3, will be holding a
> > car wash at GateHouse.
> > Donations only.
> >
> > Also, A GoFund Me account is being created,
> once
> > it has approval from Garza!
>
>
>
> Crap this is TOO funny.
IT'S RAINING!!!!!! Great day for a car wash.
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> Ivey's bake sale Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Tomorrow Cluster 5, Region 3, will be holding a
> > car wash at GateHouse.
> > Donations only.
> >
> > Also, A GoFund Me account is being created,
> once
> > it has approval from Garza!
>
>
>
> Crap this is TOO funny.
IT'S RAINING!!!!!! Great day for a car wash.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Not Seeing Forest OR Trees
()
Date: June 21, 2014 08:56AM
deFMm Wrote:
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> Actually I've been to the same hotels where this
> is being held many times.
Worked housekeeping for a while after you couldn't make airfare back to DC?
> Among many others elsewhere. Including 'beautiful'
> Cleveland. It sucked.
It's getting pretty deep in here. Of course, people painted into corners often react in desperate and illogical ways.
> This single facility in Orlando probably holds
> more conferences in a week or two than Cleveland
> does in a year.
According to YOUR desperate wild-assed guesses? Somehow, I don't see that as best evidence. Maybe you should go learn more about both locations. Maybe you should go learn more in general. Might help keep you from looking like a hapless stooge on such a regular basis.
> Likewise other more desirable locations. Which is why
> they have them there. Because people will come. (Duh)
Actually, it's because Disney itself is located in Orlando. (Duh)
> Especially the half-assed purely for-profit shows like this which
> can't draw otherwise.
You know, with all this experience and insight that you now suddenly claim to have, you should really write a book. There are thousands and thousands of organizations out there who are at this very minute getting ready to send staff off to professional development courses and seminars all over the country. But these are just a big fat waste of money according to you. You really should step in and point out to the experts just where it is that they are all going wrong. Either that or you should admit that all you are is one too typical fucked-up know-nothing been-nowhere loud-mouthed FFXU goober asshole.
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> Actually I've been to the same hotels where this
> is being held many times.
Worked housekeeping for a while after you couldn't make airfare back to DC?
> Among many others elsewhere. Including 'beautiful'
> Cleveland. It sucked.
It's getting pretty deep in here. Of course, people painted into corners often react in desperate and illogical ways.
> This single facility in Orlando probably holds
> more conferences in a week or two than Cleveland
> does in a year.
According to YOUR desperate wild-assed guesses? Somehow, I don't see that as best evidence. Maybe you should go learn more about both locations. Maybe you should go learn more in general. Might help keep you from looking like a hapless stooge on such a regular basis.
> Likewise other more desirable locations. Which is why
> they have them there. Because people will come. (Duh)
Actually, it's because Disney itself is located in Orlando. (Duh)
> Especially the half-assed purely for-profit shows like this which
> can't draw otherwise.
You know, with all this experience and insight that you now suddenly claim to have, you should really write a book. There are thousands and thousands of organizations out there who are at this very minute getting ready to send staff off to professional development courses and seminars all over the country. But these are just a big fat waste of money according to you. You really should step in and point out to the experts just where it is that they are all going wrong. Either that or you should admit that all you are is one too typical fucked-up know-nothing been-nowhere loud-mouthed FFXU goober asshole.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
manure
()
Date: June 21, 2014 09:06AM
Bottom line----
With our county facing such a public school budget crisis, put the travel out of VA on hold.
With our county facing such a public school budget crisis, put the travel out of VA on hold.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Car wash postponed
()
Date: June 21, 2014 09:10AM
Due to the weather, Ivey's car wash is postponed.
Gatehouse will be having a bake sale on Monday. Please being One dozen baked goods, with ingredients labeled, to room 1105.
Although the conference attendees will be at the Conference, those funds must be raised!
While dropping off your baked item, please pick up you order form for Sally Foster, and Virginia Peanuts.
Garza has yet to approve the Go Fund Me account
Gatehouse will be having a bake sale on Monday. Please being One dozen baked goods, with ingredients labeled, to room 1105.
Although the conference attendees will be at the Conference, those funds must be raised!
While dropping off your baked item, please pick up you order form for Sally Foster, and Virginia Peanuts.
Garza has yet to approve the Go Fund Me account
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Benjamin B J
()
Date: June 21, 2014 09:27AM
For those debating seminars.....stop it,
When our Board of Supervisors decided to extend our school year beyond the 20 June, all travel for the Administration should have been put on hold.
The admin living near me, giggled in delight, when saying that this conference was planned far in advance.
Fine, but families in this County had plans for next week.
These three days added are useless. Our kiddos, will not be doing squat. Summer vacay should have started yesterday!
When our Board of Supervisors decided to extend our school year beyond the 20 June, all travel for the Administration should have been put on hold.
The admin living near me, giggled in delight, when saying that this conference was planned far in advance.
Fine, but families in this County had plans for next week.
These three days added are useless. Our kiddos, will not be doing squat. Summer vacay should have started yesterday!
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
love it!!!!!!!!!!!
()
Date: June 21, 2014 09:34AM
Car wash postponed Wrote:
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> Due to the weather, Ivey's car wash is postponed.
>
> Gatehouse will be having a bake sale on Monday.
> Please being One dozen baked goods, with
> ingredients labeled, to room 1105.
>
> Although the conference attendees will be at the
> Conference, those funds must be raised!
> While dropping off your baked item, please pick up
> you order form for Sally Foster, and Virginia
> Peanuts.
>
>
> Garza has yet to approve the Go Fund Me account
This is GREAT. I think everybody should show up en masse. How about a 10 am Flash Mob of parents? I will make peanut butter cookies. They stock Epi pens.
You have to park in the parking garage. You will be towed out front. The neighbors don't like people visiting FCPS taking their spots.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Due to the weather, Ivey's car wash is postponed.
>
> Gatehouse will be having a bake sale on Monday.
> Please being One dozen baked goods, with
> ingredients labeled, to room 1105.
>
> Although the conference attendees will be at the
> Conference, those funds must be raised!
> While dropping off your baked item, please pick up
> you order form for Sally Foster, and Virginia
> Peanuts.
>
>
> Garza has yet to approve the Go Fund Me account
This is GREAT. I think everybody should show up en masse. How about a 10 am Flash Mob of parents? I will make peanut butter cookies. They stock Epi pens.
You have to park in the parking garage. You will be towed out front. The neighbors don't like people visiting FCPS taking their spots.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Not Seeing Forest OR Trees
()
Date: June 21, 2014 09:50AM
Not Seeing Forest OR Trees Wrote:
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> Of course. As it is evident, I'll go ahead and
> admit it.
Posting under another poster's handle is pretty much the last hope of desperate men. Sort of a crash-and-burn admission of total defeat. You did earn it though. It's not like all this shame and disgrace were just handed to you.
> I work for one of the best Administrators in the FCPS,
> and I'm proud to defend ALL of the administrators.
Very poorly guessed, asshole. I do not now and have never worked for FCPS or any other county government entity. In the interests of transparency though, I have spoken both for a fee and on a pro bono basis at a number of professional seminars and other gatherings.
> ... especially the ones that brought their spouses
> to the event, and extended their stays for a little
> mini-vacation.
Envious much? Is a day-trip to Lake Fairfax pretty much the biggest sort of get-away vacation you can handle? Otherwise, taking a spouse along and on a business trip and extending the stay at the front or back end is perfectly legal and common -- AT THE PARTICIPANT'S OWN EXPENSE. Ignorant goober.
> Being an administrator is a damn sight more difficult
> than teaching a class or three.
It's not a question of which is more difficult. These are different functions requiring different skill sets. The idea is that administrative functions are carried out by those with administrative skills and the educational functions are carried out by those with educational skills. Those with no skills carry out no functions, which will pretty much stand as a major stumbling block to your ever working for FCPS.
> All of them have earned a little R-and-R plus education,
> as well as the bonus-points for professional development
> that> appear in their annual performance reviews.
Continuing education REQUIREMENTS are built into the job for most working in any significant school system. Obviously, there haven't been any such things in your life. You think teachers just laze around all summer when they are actually off taking graduate-level courses to maintain and broaden their skills in an ever-changing world. You know, all that new stuff that you wouldn't understand or be able to keep up with.
> I say more such investments! More often! And, for more
> administrators!
And I say that you're just another worthless low-grade ignorant dumbfuck.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Of course. As it is evident, I'll go ahead and
> admit it.
Posting under another poster's handle is pretty much the last hope of desperate men. Sort of a crash-and-burn admission of total defeat. You did earn it though. It's not like all this shame and disgrace were just handed to you.
> I work for one of the best Administrators in the FCPS,
> and I'm proud to defend ALL of the administrators.
Very poorly guessed, asshole. I do not now and have never worked for FCPS or any other county government entity. In the interests of transparency though, I have spoken both for a fee and on a pro bono basis at a number of professional seminars and other gatherings.
> ... especially the ones that brought their spouses
> to the event, and extended their stays for a little
> mini-vacation.
Envious much? Is a day-trip to Lake Fairfax pretty much the biggest sort of get-away vacation you can handle? Otherwise, taking a spouse along and on a business trip and extending the stay at the front or back end is perfectly legal and common -- AT THE PARTICIPANT'S OWN EXPENSE. Ignorant goober.
> Being an administrator is a damn sight more difficult
> than teaching a class or three.
It's not a question of which is more difficult. These are different functions requiring different skill sets. The idea is that administrative functions are carried out by those with administrative skills and the educational functions are carried out by those with educational skills. Those with no skills carry out no functions, which will pretty much stand as a major stumbling block to your ever working for FCPS.
> All of them have earned a little R-and-R plus education,
> as well as the bonus-points for professional development
> that> appear in their annual performance reviews.
Continuing education REQUIREMENTS are built into the job for most working in any significant school system. Obviously, there haven't been any such things in your life. You think teachers just laze around all summer when they are actually off taking graduate-level courses to maintain and broaden their skills in an ever-changing world. You know, all that new stuff that you wouldn't understand or be able to keep up with.
> I say more such investments! More often! And, for more
> administrators!
And I say that you're just another worthless low-grade ignorant dumbfuck.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Not Seeing Forest OR Trees
()
Date: June 21, 2014 09:53AM
cluster car wash? Wrote:
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> IT'S RAINING!!!!!! Great day for a car wash.
That's the thing about outdoor events that have to be planned in advance. You can never tell what the weather is going to be like. Third-graders realize this. You apparently do not.
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> IT'S RAINING!!!!!! Great day for a car wash.
That's the thing about outdoor events that have to be planned in advance. You can never tell what the weather is going to be like. Third-graders realize this. You apparently do not.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Jewh8ter2 is whanging away at
()
Date: June 21, 2014 10:00AM
the keyboard this am, talking points flying.
Of course, it's all unproven assertions, so it's less real than, say, that pile of dog shit Jewh8ter2 stepped in.
Of course, it's all unproven assertions, so it's less real than, say, that pile of dog shit Jewh8ter2 stepped in.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Goober gibberish
()
Date: June 21, 2014 10:02AM
ABOUT THE CONFERENCE
Each year since its inception in 1992, the International Center for Leadership in Education has identified the schools across the nation and around the world that have made tremendous strides in student learning. Those schools are invited to share their successful strategies at our annual Model Schools Conference.
"With 100+ concurrent sessions, Model Schools Conference will empower and inspire participants to:
•raise rigor and relevance for all students
•make marked and sustainable improvement in classrooms and schoolwide immediately
•become energized to create positive change and improve instructional effectiveness
•implement ideas and strategies shared by the nation’s highest performing and rapidly improving schools
•benefit from countless networking opportunities with educators from schools across the U.S.
•transform student learning experiences by using instructional technology
•create and implement an effective, engaging learner environment"
Each year since its inception in 1992, the International Center for Leadership in Education has identified the schools across the nation and around the world that have made tremendous strides in student learning. Those schools are invited to share their successful strategies at our annual Model Schools Conference.
"With 100+ concurrent sessions, Model Schools Conference will empower and inspire participants to:
•raise rigor and relevance for all students
•make marked and sustainable improvement in classrooms and schoolwide immediately
•become energized to create positive change and improve instructional effectiveness
•implement ideas and strategies shared by the nation’s highest performing and rapidly improving schools
•benefit from countless networking opportunities with educators from schools across the U.S.
•transform student learning experiences by using instructional technology
•create and implement an effective, engaging learner environment"
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Not Seeing Forest OR Trees
()
Date: June 21, 2014 10:03AM
manure Wrote:
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> Bottom line----
> With our county facing such a public school budget
> crisis, put the travel out of VA on hold.
Not how it's done, stupid. You make the fewest and smallest actual cuts that you can, and spread those out as broadly and thinly as possible. Goobers see waste in everything they don't understand. That's quite a lot of things of course. In actuality, there are always budget pressures and nothing gets in that does not provide or offer significant positive value. You want to do as little damage to that value as possible. Meat-axe management is awful management, which is why you will never be a part of that field.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Bottom line----
> With our county facing such a public school budget
> crisis, put the travel out of VA on hold.
Not how it's done, stupid. You make the fewest and smallest actual cuts that you can, and spread those out as broadly and thinly as possible. Goobers see waste in everything they don't understand. That's quite a lot of things of course. In actuality, there are always budget pressures and nothing gets in that does not provide or offer significant positive value. You want to do as little damage to that value as possible. Meat-axe management is awful management, which is why you will never be a part of that field.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Real world
()
Date: June 21, 2014 10:06AM
Your cast of brilliance:
Bill Daggett is recognized worldwide for his proven ability to inspire audiences and move education systems toward more rigorous and relevant instruction
Before joining the International Center, Ray served as Senior Fellow at the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, Education Commissioner for Vermont, and President of ASCD
Having served as Maine’s Commissioner of Education and President of CCSSO, Sue is now a leader of one of the two multi-state consortia funded by U.S. Department of Education to develop assessments for Common Core State Standards
As principal of Brockton High from 2004-2012, Sue moved this 4,200-student urban school from being a case study in failure to outperforming 90% of Massachusetts high schools
A former professor of education at Hope College, Linda is an experienced trainer and shares her deep knowledge of brain research to aid in improving student achievement
As an interdisciplinary literacy specialist, Bernadette has addressed audiences on developing and supporting literacy instruction that embraces every student in every subject.
Bill Daggett is recognized worldwide for his proven ability to inspire audiences and move education systems toward more rigorous and relevant instruction
Before joining the International Center, Ray served as Senior Fellow at the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, Education Commissioner for Vermont, and President of ASCD
Having served as Maine’s Commissioner of Education and President of CCSSO, Sue is now a leader of one of the two multi-state consortia funded by U.S. Department of Education to develop assessments for Common Core State Standards
As principal of Brockton High from 2004-2012, Sue moved this 4,200-student urban school from being a case study in failure to outperforming 90% of Massachusetts high schools
A former professor of education at Hope College, Linda is an experienced trainer and shares her deep knowledge of brain research to aid in improving student achievement
As an interdisciplinary literacy specialist, Bernadette has addressed audiences on developing and supporting literacy instruction that embraces every student in every subject.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Meat-axe management
()
Date: June 21, 2014 10:07AM
WTF does that goober talk even mean?
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
fewest and smallest actual cuts
()
Date: June 21, 2014 10:09AM
Is how we've arrived at this impasse. Out here in the real world, if budgets are out of bounds, we cut them. Hard and fast, then go in and prevent the situations that caused the crisis.
It's called "problem solving", and it's hard work. Something goobers and "public workers" know little about.
It's called "problem solving", and it's hard work. Something goobers and "public workers" know little about.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
"Graduate level"? Ha
()
Date: June 21, 2014 10:15AM
When said work = Bachelor of Science levels, let me know. Otherwise, it's fluff.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Not Seeing Forests OR Trees
()
Date: June 21, 2014 10:23AM
Benjamin B J Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> When our Board of Supervisors decided to extend
> our school year beyond the 20 June, all travel for
> the Administration should have been put on hold.
The extra days are mandated by law on penalty of lost funding. FCPS made every effort to comply with the law while recognizing the family factor by scheduling extra days that go no further than meeting the bare minimums to qualify as an instructional day. There are no significant events scheduled. There is no penalty for non-attendance. If you were too stupid to realize all this, well, that's on you.
> The admin living near me, giggled in delight, when
> saying that this conference was planned far in advance.
Any such conference would have been planned far in advance. That's how such tings are done, as seems to come as news to you. Meanwhile, why have you been so regularly associating with known FCPS administrators?
> Fine, but families in this County had plans for
> next week. These three days added are useless.
> Our kiddos, will not be doing squat. Summer
> vacay should have started yesterday!
It indeed did for the non-stupid.
-------------------------------------------------------
> When our Board of Supervisors decided to extend
> our school year beyond the 20 June, all travel for
> the Administration should have been put on hold.
The extra days are mandated by law on penalty of lost funding. FCPS made every effort to comply with the law while recognizing the family factor by scheduling extra days that go no further than meeting the bare minimums to qualify as an instructional day. There are no significant events scheduled. There is no penalty for non-attendance. If you were too stupid to realize all this, well, that's on you.
> The admin living near me, giggled in delight, when
> saying that this conference was planned far in advance.
Any such conference would have been planned far in advance. That's how such tings are done, as seems to come as news to you. Meanwhile, why have you been so regularly associating with known FCPS administrators?
> Fine, but families in this County had plans for
> next week. These three days added are useless.
> Our kiddos, will not be doing squat. Summer
> vacay should have started yesterday!
It indeed did for the non-stupid.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Not Seeing Forests OR Trees
()
Date: June 21, 2014 10:28AM
love it!!!!!!!!!!! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> This is GREAT. I think everybody should show up en
> masse. How about a 10 am Flash Mob of parents? I
> will make peanut butter cookies. They stock Epi
> pens. You have to park in the parking garage. You
> will be towed out front. The neighbors don't like
> people visiting FCPS taking their spots.
You're a pre-teen, aren't you. Early signs are that the apple hasn't fallen far from the goober tree, though.
-------------------------------------------------------
> This is GREAT. I think everybody should show up en
> masse. How about a 10 am Flash Mob of parents? I
> will make peanut butter cookies. They stock Epi
> pens. You have to park in the parking garage. You
> will be towed out front. The neighbors don't like
> people visiting FCPS taking their spots.
You're a pre-teen, aren't you. Early signs are that the apple hasn't fallen far from the goober tree, though.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Not Seeing Forest OR Trees
()
Date: June 21, 2014 10:30AM
Goober gibberish Wrote:
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> ABOUT THE CONFERENCE
Or not.
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> ABOUT THE CONFERENCE
Or not.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Not Seeing Forest OR Trees
()
Date: June 21, 2014 10:33AM
Real world Wrote:
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> Your cast of brilliance:
> Bill Daggett is recognized worldwide...
As a quack who is not associated with Disney.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Your cast of brilliance:
> Bill Daggett is recognized worldwide...
As a quack who is not associated with Disney.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Not Seeing Forest OR Trees
()
Date: June 21, 2014 10:35AM
Meat-axe management Wrote:
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> WTF does that goober talk even mean?
There's only so much help I'm going to be able to give here. Those who are basically beyond help are just not going to get any.
-------------------------------------------------------
> WTF does that goober talk even mean?
There's only so much help I'm going to be able to give here. Those who are basically beyond help are just not going to get any.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
? If he's a quack,
()
Date: June 21, 2014 10:36AM
Then why blow taxpayer's $?
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
mom245
()
Date: June 21, 2014 10:40AM
The fact that the administrators were allowed to go on this bs boondoggle just shows you how little they actually do at the schools. The last days of school are the busiest time--exams, grades, facilities,
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Not Seeing Forests OR Trees
()
Date: June 21, 2014 10:41AM
fewest and smallest actual cuts Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Is how we've arrived at this impasse. Out here in
> the real world, if budgets are out of bounds, we
> cut them. Hard and fast, then go in and prevent
> the situations that caused the crisis. It's called
> "problem solving", and it's hard work. Something
> goobers and "public workers" know little about.
Lemonade stand owners are not really a reliable source of information. Multi-dozens of dollars are not the same thing as multi-billions of dollars. The actual real world of budgeting works the way it works, and you know precious little about that.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Is how we've arrived at this impasse. Out here in
> the real world, if budgets are out of bounds, we
> cut them. Hard and fast, then go in and prevent
> the situations that caused the crisis. It's called
> "problem solving", and it's hard work. Something
> goobers and "public workers" know little about.
Lemonade stand owners are not really a reliable source of information. Multi-dozens of dollars are not the same thing as multi-billions of dollars. The actual real world of budgeting works the way it works, and you know precious little about that.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Not Seeing Forest OR Trees
()
Date: June 21, 2014 10:44AM
"Graduate level"? Ha Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> When said work = Bachelor of Science levels, let
> me know. Otherwise, it's fluff.
Graduate level courses are by definition beyond the level of a Bachelor's degree. You have to be pretty dumb not to know that.
-------------------------------------------------------
> When said work = Bachelor of Science levels, let
> me know. Otherwise, it's fluff.
Graduate level courses are by definition beyond the level of a Bachelor's degree. You have to be pretty dumb not to know that.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Not Seeing Forests OR Trees
()
Date: June 21, 2014 10:46AM
? If he's a quack, Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Then why blow taxpayer's $?
Talk to Cobb County, Jawjah. They apparently did.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Then why blow taxpayer's $?
Talk to Cobb County, Jawjah. They apparently did.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
The average profitable lemonade
()
Date: June 21, 2014 10:48AM
stand operator = more knowledgeable about the real world's operations than the average BA in Edu.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
You're the one
()
Date: June 21, 2014 10:49AM
Supporting the boondoggle.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Not Seeing Forests OR Trees
()
Date: June 21, 2014 10:50AM
mom245 Wrote:
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> The fact that the administrators were allowed to
> go on this bs boondoggle just shows you how little
> they actually do at the schools. The last days of
> school are the busiest time--exams, grades,
> facilities,
Pshaw! Those tasks are all as done as they would have been in any other case. Try to keep up here. These extra days are phony days, staged only to meet the technical requirements of the law.
-------------------------------------------------------
> The fact that the administrators were allowed to
> go on this bs boondoggle just shows you how little
> they actually do at the schools. The last days of
> school are the busiest time--exams, grades,
> facilities,
Pshaw! Those tasks are all as done as they would have been in any other case. Try to keep up here. These extra days are phony days, staged only to meet the technical requirements of the law.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
mom245
()
Date: June 21, 2014 10:55AM
^^^
you are a stupid liar. The last exam was given friday after a week of exams. Those must be being graded now. and what if a student missed their exam due to sickness.
you are a stupid liar. The last exam was given friday after a week of exams. Those must be being graded now. and what if a student missed their exam due to sickness.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
shouting "goober" =
()
Date: June 21, 2014 10:58AM
"I have no rational response, so I shout in a spit flying rage of self importance"
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
mom245
()
Date: June 21, 2014 11:03AM
Yes, those admins must be doing something so important and difficult at the schools that us lowly uneducated parents cant even understand what it is, even though apparently it doesn't involve students, learning and school safety.
No doubt the conference is on how to make TPS coversheets three pages instead of one
No doubt the conference is on how to make TPS coversheets three pages instead of one
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
bake sale 10 am Monday!!!!!!
()
Date: June 21, 2014 11:07AM
Bake sale 10am Monday at Gatehouse in the lobby. Sign-up sheet-
Brownies
Cupcakes
Snickerdoodles
Chocolate chip cookies
Oatmeal cookies
Gluten-free anything
Peanut Butter cookies (peanut lovers have rights, too)
Doughnuts
You should be able to get back in time for the bus, even on the short day.
Brownies
Cupcakes
Snickerdoodles
Chocolate chip cookies
Oatmeal cookies
Gluten-free anything
Peanut Butter cookies (peanut lovers have rights, too)
Doughnuts
You should be able to get back in time for the bus, even on the short day.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Not Seeing Forest OR Trees
()
Date: June 21, 2014 11:13AM
The average profitable lemonade Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> stand operator = more knowledgeable about the real
> world's operations than the average BA in Edu.
While many also have a Masters in Education, an entry-level teacher would typically have a Bachelors in the primary field. You know -- physics, chemistry, history, math, English, and various other subjects that you never got higher than a "C" in. All must be certified in their field, pass regular exams, and do that continuing education thing. In their "free" time.
-------------------------------------------------------
> stand operator = more knowledgeable about the real
> world's operations than the average BA in Edu.
While many also have a Masters in Education, an entry-level teacher would typically have a Bachelors in the primary field. You know -- physics, chemistry, history, math, English, and various other subjects that you never got higher than a "C" in. All must be certified in their field, pass regular exams, and do that continuing education thing. In their "free" time.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Not Seeing Forests OR Trees
()
Date: June 21, 2014 11:35AM
You're the one Wrote:
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> Supporting the boondoggle.
Because you don't get sent to them, you and your ignorant low-life goober pals are the ones who think staff development programs are a boondoggle. That's stupid -- just plain stupid. The whole private and public sector world disagrees with you and for very good reason -- investments in staff development make for better, stronger, more effective organizations in the long run. If they didn't, there wouldn't be such an industry. Organizations that have in-house expertise available run in-house programs, but few organizations have experts in everything on staff. They go outside to get the expertise they need -- sometimes to local universities and sometimes to well-regarded individual contractors like me or corporate contractors like Disney. Get a grip.
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> Supporting the boondoggle.
Because you don't get sent to them, you and your ignorant low-life goober pals are the ones who think staff development programs are a boondoggle. That's stupid -- just plain stupid. The whole private and public sector world disagrees with you and for very good reason -- investments in staff development make for better, stronger, more effective organizations in the long run. If they didn't, there wouldn't be such an industry. Organizations that have in-house expertise available run in-house programs, but few organizations have experts in everything on staff. They go outside to get the expertise they need -- sometimes to local universities and sometimes to well-regarded individual contractors like me or corporate contractors like Disney. Get a grip.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
mom245
()
Date: June 21, 2014 11:44AM
^^^^
Translation: no, seriously, the emperor has clothes on. They're brand new, and if you can't see them, there's something wrong with you.
Translation: no, seriously, the emperor has clothes on. They're brand new, and if you can't see them, there's something wrong with you.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Not Seeing Forest OR Trees
()
Date: June 21, 2014 11:46AM
mom245 Wrote:
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> you are a stupid liar. The last exam was given
> friday after a week of exams. Those must be being
> graded now. and what if a student missed their
> exam due to sickness.
No, dearie. June 20 was always the last day of school, and students are too sick to take their exams every year. There is nothing new here except to babbling Chicken Little ditzoids. Keep in mind that the first six "weather days" are already provided for in the basic FCPS schedule. It is only days 7, 9, 11, etc. that have to be "made up" under Virginia law. That's where the new phony days on June 23, 24, and 25 came from.
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> you are a stupid liar. The last exam was given
> friday after a week of exams. Those must be being
> graded now. and what if a student missed their
> exam due to sickness.
No, dearie. June 20 was always the last day of school, and students are too sick to take their exams every year. There is nothing new here except to babbling Chicken Little ditzoids. Keep in mind that the first six "weather days" are already provided for in the basic FCPS schedule. It is only days 7, 9, 11, etc. that have to be "made up" under Virginia law. That's where the new phony days on June 23, 24, and 25 came from.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Not Seeing Forest OR Trees
()
Date: June 21, 2014 11:52AM
shouting "goober" = Wrote:
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> "I have no rational response, so I shout in a spit
> flying rage of self importance"
Deal with the facts, goober. What? Can't do that? No rational point or statement to make? So STFU then.
|^^^^^^^^^^^\||____
| The STFU Truck |||"'"|""\__,_
| _____________ l||__|__|__|))
|(@)@)"""""""**|(@)(@)**|(@)
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> "I have no rational response, so I shout in a spit
> flying rage of self importance"
Deal with the facts, goober. What? Can't do that? No rational point or statement to make? So STFU then.
|^^^^^^^^^^^\||____
| The STFU Truck |||"'"|""\__,_
| _____________ l||__|__|__|))
|(@)@)"""""""**|(@)(@)**|(@)
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
are they really broke?
()
Date: June 21, 2014 11:55AM
We don't even know if the Florida admin is for real. Somebody pull some records.
If they are really broke, how come they are dropping $2300 at Maggiano's and $1820 on umbrellas etc. etc. etc.?
If they are really broke, how come they are dropping $2300 at Maggiano's and $1820 on umbrellas etc. etc. etc.?
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Not Seeing Forest OR Trees
()
Date: June 21, 2014 11:57AM
mom245 Wrote:
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> Yes, those admins must be doing something so
> important and difficult at the schools that us
> lowly uneducated parents cant even understand what
> it is, even though apparently it doesn't involve
> students, learning and school safety.
It's YOUR fault if you don't understand how the county school system works and instead fall for every stupid goober rumor that goes flying around. If you could ACTUALLY DO any of the these FCPS admin jobs, you would HAVE one of them. But YOU DON'T.
> No doubt the conference is on how to make TPS
> coversheets three pages instead of one
Yes, no doubt. Idiot.
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> Yes, those admins must be doing something so
> important and difficult at the schools that us
> lowly uneducated parents cant even understand what
> it is, even though apparently it doesn't involve
> students, learning and school safety.
It's YOUR fault if you don't understand how the county school system works and instead fall for every stupid goober rumor that goes flying around. If you could ACTUALLY DO any of the these FCPS admin jobs, you would HAVE one of them. But YOU DON'T.
> No doubt the conference is on how to make TPS
> coversheets three pages instead of one
Yes, no doubt. Idiot.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
mom245
()
Date: June 21, 2014 11:58AM
The difference is, "dearie", that the principals are in the building to deal with the situation. This year they are not.
You are just making my point: Apparently during one of the most important educational times of the year, it doesn't matter whether they are in the building or not. Because they dont really do anything.
It used to be that they dealt with discipline, extraordinary circumstances. . . now they just make up TPS coversheet specs
You are just making my point: Apparently during one of the most important educational times of the year, it doesn't matter whether they are in the building or not. Because they dont really do anything.
It used to be that they dealt with discipline, extraordinary circumstances. . . now they just make up TPS coversheet specs
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Not Seeing Forest OR Trees
()
Date: June 21, 2014 12:13PM
mom245 Wrote:
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> Translation: no, seriously, the emperor has
> clothes on. They're brand new, and if you can't
> see them, there's something wrong with you.
Plainly, there is something wrong with you. You don't understand shit. Calendars seem to be above your pay grade. FCPS runs more than 200 schools and centers serving some 185,000 students. That's more than the entire population of Newport News. FCPS is one of the biggest and most successful school systems in the country, and as in any large organization, it takes a lot of different people and different functions to make it all go. Want to comment on something? Learn what it is first. You've simply left that step out.
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> Translation: no, seriously, the emperor has
> clothes on. They're brand new, and if you can't
> see them, there's something wrong with you.
Plainly, there is something wrong with you. You don't understand shit. Calendars seem to be above your pay grade. FCPS runs more than 200 schools and centers serving some 185,000 students. That's more than the entire population of Newport News. FCPS is one of the biggest and most successful school systems in the country, and as in any large organization, it takes a lot of different people and different functions to make it all go. Want to comment on something? Learn what it is first. You've simply left that step out.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
NOt Seeing Forest OR Trees
()
Date: June 21, 2014 12:35PM
mom245 Wrote:
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> The difference is, "dearie", that the principals
> are in the building to deal with the situation.
> This year they are not.
What situation? You do realize that there are assistant principals who regularly take over when principals are away for business or personal reasons. You are just making more and more of a fool out of yourself as this goes on.
> You are just making my point: Apparently during
> one of the most important educational times of the
> year, it doesn't matter whether they are in the
> building or not. Because they dont really do
> anything.
They do principal things, the ones that they wnet put and got their Masters and PhD's to be able to accomplish well. None of these involve proctoring exams or monitoring kids in the gym watching movies.
> It used to be that they dealt with discipline,
> extraordinary circumstances. . . now they just
> make up TPS coversheet specs
"Office Space" was a satirical and comedic piece of FICTION. You DO realize that, don't you? You've come up so short everywhere else, there's really no way to be sure that you haven't mistaken it for a reality flick. Otherwise, you do not know, and in any case have no standards by which to judge, what ANY FCPS employee is supposed to do or actually does. You are nothing but one more waste-of-time misinformed babbling no-account goober.
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> The difference is, "dearie", that the principals
> are in the building to deal with the situation.
> This year they are not.
What situation? You do realize that there are assistant principals who regularly take over when principals are away for business or personal reasons. You are just making more and more of a fool out of yourself as this goes on.
> You are just making my point: Apparently during
> one of the most important educational times of the
> year, it doesn't matter whether they are in the
> building or not. Because they dont really do
> anything.
They do principal things, the ones that they wnet put and got their Masters and PhD's to be able to accomplish well. None of these involve proctoring exams or monitoring kids in the gym watching movies.
> It used to be that they dealt with discipline,
> extraordinary circumstances. . . now they just
> make up TPS coversheet specs
"Office Space" was a satirical and comedic piece of FICTION. You DO realize that, don't you? You've come up so short everywhere else, there's really no way to be sure that you haven't mistaken it for a reality flick. Otherwise, you do not know, and in any case have no standards by which to judge, what ANY FCPS employee is supposed to do or actually does. You are nothing but one more waste-of-time misinformed babbling no-account goober.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
rpcoel
()
Date: June 21, 2014 12:42PM
are they really broke? Wrote:
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> We don't even know if the Florida admin is for
> real. Somebody pull some records.
>
> If they are really broke, how come they are
> dropping $2300 at Maggiano's and $1820 on
> umbrellas etc. etc. etc.?
McLean High- 3/20/2013 Maggiano's $2300, 5/28/2013 "Umbrellas" $1820
Madison High- 5/30/2013 "coasters" $1533.50
Oakton High- 11/27/2013 "staff clothing" $4602.07
Woodson High- 6/17/2013 Pane E Vino $858.34
Are they really broke?
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> We don't even know if the Florida admin is for
> real. Somebody pull some records.
>
> If they are really broke, how come they are
> dropping $2300 at Maggiano's and $1820 on
> umbrellas etc. etc. etc.?
McLean High- 3/20/2013 Maggiano's $2300, 5/28/2013 "Umbrellas" $1820
Madison High- 5/30/2013 "coasters" $1533.50
Oakton High- 11/27/2013 "staff clothing" $4602.07
Woodson High- 6/17/2013 Pane E Vino $858.34
Are they really broke?
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Goober Barney
()
Date: June 21, 2014 12:46PM
The last few days are the busiest. Administrators should not be missing from their building. The Office staff and financial admin feels the pinch. Things fall on the acting admins; yet they are in the trenches with their own End of Year obligations.
For the person that sees the forest and/or trees; look at this from the students' and teachers' perspective. We are tired of our Admins being MIA when their are issues at school that need to be addressed!
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> The fact that the administrators were allowed to
> go on this bs boondoggle just shows you how little
> they actually do at the schools. The last days of
> school are the busiest time--exams, grades,
> facilities,
For the person that sees the forest and/or trees; look at this from the students' and teachers' perspective. We are tired of our Admins being MIA when their are issues at school that need to be addressed!
-------------------------------------------------------
> The fact that the administrators were allowed to
> go on this bs boondoggle just shows you how little
> they actually do at the schools. The last days of
> school are the busiest time--exams, grades,
> facilities,
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
mom245
()
Date: June 21, 2014 12:47PM
TPS reports are real things, dummy. Testing Procedure Specifications.
Its just that the cover sheets, which Office Space so aptly makes fun of, are bureaucratic gobbledygook.
And you keep making the point for me: "They do principal things" apparently things which the unenlightened cant even understand, since you don't bother explaining them.
But they apparently don't involve teaching, testing or discipline, since these things can go on without them.
Isn't that pretty much what goes on at "school"?
Its just that the cover sheets, which Office Space so aptly makes fun of, are bureaucratic gobbledygook.
And you keep making the point for me: "They do principal things" apparently things which the unenlightened cant even understand, since you don't bother explaining them.
But they apparently don't involve teaching, testing or discipline, since these things can go on without them.
Isn't that pretty much what goes on at "school"?
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
thou doth protesteth too much
()
Date: June 21, 2014 12:56PM
To Not Seeing Forest or Trees:
You are committing ad hominem and name calling fallacies---one after another by constantly attacking your opponents with "goober", "idiot", "something is wrong with you", "you don't understand shit", etc., etc. These are not logical arguing points. You are digging a hole for yourself. If you are one of these "educational consultants" who gives speeches for a fee (as you have asserted above), you should certainly have many logical reasons and hard evidence to back up your assertions that this "staff development" is valuable. State them. Give hard evidence. Make a real argument. So far I haven't seen one. You are awfully defensive.
I think that when lots of federal money is earmarked for things like "staff development", the snake oil salesmen come out to take it.
You are committing ad hominem and name calling fallacies---one after another by constantly attacking your opponents with "goober", "idiot", "something is wrong with you", "you don't understand shit", etc., etc. These are not logical arguing points. You are digging a hole for yourself. If you are one of these "educational consultants" who gives speeches for a fee (as you have asserted above), you should certainly have many logical reasons and hard evidence to back up your assertions that this "staff development" is valuable. State them. Give hard evidence. Make a real argument. So far I haven't seen one. You are awfully defensive.
I think that when lots of federal money is earmarked for things like "staff development", the snake oil salesmen come out to take it.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Box tops ten percent
()
Date: June 21, 2014 12:58PM
love it!!!!!!!!!!! Wrote:
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Beginning with the new Fiscal Year, ten percent of Box Tops will go towards flaky conferences.
A flash mob is planned at Dulles tomorrow at 11:30 for United Flight UA778,
IAD to MCO
Wear your spirit tees to show support for our dedicated Lovers of Learning, Dr. f Ivey and others!!
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Due to the weather, Ivey's car wash is
> postponed.
> >
> > Gatehouse will be having a bake sale on Monday.
>
> > Please being One dozen baked goods, with
> > ingredients labeled, to room 1105.
> >
> > Although the conference attendees will be at
> the
> > Conference, those funds must be raised!
> > While dropping off your baked item, please pick
> up
> > you order form for Sally Foster, and Virginia
> > Peanuts.
> >
> >
> > Garza has yet to approve the Go Fund Me account
>
>
> This is GREAT. I think everybody should show up en
> masse. How about a 10 am Flash Mob of parents? I
> will make peanut butter cookies. They stock Epi
> pens.
>
> You have to park in the parking garage. You will
> be towed out front. The neighbors don't like
> people visiting FCPS taking their spots.
-------------------------------------------------------
Beginning with the new Fiscal Year, ten percent of Box Tops will go towards flaky conferences.
A flash mob is planned at Dulles tomorrow at 11:30 for United Flight UA778,
IAD to MCO
Wear your spirit tees to show support for our dedicated Lovers of Learning, Dr. f Ivey and others!!
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Due to the weather, Ivey's car wash is
> postponed.
> >
> > Gatehouse will be having a bake sale on Monday.
>
> > Please being One dozen baked goods, with
> > ingredients labeled, to room 1105.
> >
> > Although the conference attendees will be at
> the
> > Conference, those funds must be raised!
> > While dropping off your baked item, please pick
> up
> > you order form for Sally Foster, and Virginia
> > Peanuts.
> >
> >
> > Garza has yet to approve the Go Fund Me account
>
>
> This is GREAT. I think everybody should show up en
> masse. How about a 10 am Flash Mob of parents? I
> will make peanut butter cookies. They stock Epi
> pens.
>
> You have to park in the parking garage. You will
> be towed out front. The neighbors don't like
> people visiting FCPS taking their spots.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Kids with behavior
()
Date: June 21, 2014 01:09PM
Not Seeing....
The unstructured days, due to meeting technical requirements of the law, is the time when kids come unglued. Three out of ten kids break rules, bully, destroy property on these days.
A kid at my school took the keys of a laptop. These aren't the keys that you can push back on.
Without our admins, the kid will sit in the office.
The counselors hands are tied; legally they need an Admin to enact certain consequences.
> Pshaw! Those tasks are all as done as they would
> have been in any other case. Try to keep up here.
> These extra days are phony days, staged only to
> meet the technical requirements of the law.
The unstructured days, due to meeting technical requirements of the law, is the time when kids come unglued. Three out of ten kids break rules, bully, destroy property on these days.
A kid at my school took the keys of a laptop. These aren't the keys that you can push back on.
Without our admins, the kid will sit in the office.
The counselors hands are tied; legally they need an Admin to enact certain consequences.
> Pshaw! Those tasks are all as done as they would
> have been in any other case. Try to keep up here.
> These extra days are phony days, staged only to
> meet the technical requirements of the law.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
school open
()
Date: June 21, 2014 01:19PM
Teacher here.
I have a kid who was on suspension who is coming in on Monday to finish a final exam. So, yes, there are still things going on. We cannot absolutely close out until Wednesday. The SB said that there would be "meaningful instruction". There may not be a ton of it going on, but if a student is in a "make or break" situation, the teacher has to give them a chance.
I have a kid who was on suspension who is coming in on Monday to finish a final exam. So, yes, there are still things going on. We cannot absolutely close out until Wednesday. The SB said that there would be "meaningful instruction". There may not be a ton of it going on, but if a student is in a "make or break" situation, the teacher has to give them a chance.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Teachers busting ass
()
Date: June 21, 2014 01:29PM
Resentment towards Administrators......yep; feeling it this year when they are always out of the building!!
The school teachers deserve a Raise.
There are plenty of good employees working for FCPS who bust their asses; find a way to pay for a step increase and an adequate cost of living.
The "nice thing" that teachers would like their employer to give them is a RAISE (after so many years of not having money in the budget)
The school teachers deserve a Raise.
There are plenty of good employees working for FCPS who bust their asses; find a way to pay for a step increase and an adequate cost of living.
The "nice thing" that teachers would like their employer to give them is a RAISE (after so many years of not having money in the budget)
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Reply from Ivey
()
Date: June 21, 2014 02:01PM
The conference to Florida is real.
My email to Ivey hasn't been replied to.
I am a teacher and spoke with my Administrator. The conference is in Florida on Model Schools.
This is not a secret. It was to have happened once the school year ended. Due to the numerous snow days, it concurs with the EOY.
My email to Ivey hasn't been replied to.
I am a teacher and spoke with my Administrator. The conference is in Florida on Model Schools.
This is not a secret. It was to have happened once the school year ended. Due to the numerous snow days, it concurs with the EOY.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
The wood is in your head
()
Date: June 21, 2014 02:08PM
Not Seeing Forest OR Trees Wrote:
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> deFMm Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Actually I've been to the same hotels where
> this
> > is being held many times.
>
> Worked housekeeping for a while after you couldn't
> make airfare back to DC?
>
> > Among many others elsewhere. Including
> 'beautiful'
> > Cleveland. It sucked.
>
> It's getting pretty deep in here. Of course,
> people painted into corners often react in
> desperate and illogical ways.
Yeah, nobody around here in the tech industry servicing the government ever goes to these conferences and other similar events. It's some exclusive benefit offered only to the elite within their organizations. lol Derp.
>
> > This single facility in Orlando probably holds
> > more conferences in a week or two than
> Cleveland
> > does in a year.
>
> According to YOUR desperate wild-assed guesses?
> Somehow, I don't see that as best evidence. Maybe
> you should go learn more about both locations.
> Maybe you should go learn more in general. Might
> help keep you from looking like a hapless stooge
> on such a regular basis.
>
No, based on the fact that it (and others in Orlando) were purpose-built as one of the largest conference facilities in the country and their primary business model is as a destination to attract a constant stream of targeted conference business. Which they do very successfully.
> > Likewise other more desirable locations. Which
> is why
> > they have them there. Because people will come.
> (Duh)
>
> Actually, it's because Disney itself is located in
> Orlando. (Duh)
Obviously. Location being more than simply geographic location. Central FL and the Nevada desert wouldn't be very appealing destinations in the Summer otherwise now would they. (Duh)
>
> > Especially the half-assed purely for-profit
> shows like this which
> > can't draw otherwise.
>
> You know, with all this experience and insight
> that you now suddenly claim to have, you should
> really write a book. There are thousands and
> thousands of organizations out there who are at
> this very minute getting ready to send staff off
> to professional development courses and seminars
> all over the country. But these are just a big
> fat waste of money according to you. You really
> should step in and point out to the experts just
> where it is that they are all going wrong. Either
> that or you should admit that all you are is one
> too typical fucked-up know-nothing been-nowhere
> loud-mouthed FFXU goober asshole.
It's not 'professional development' other than by the most stretched definition. It's (yet another) for-profit, commercial conference run by a group which sells it as a product. It's about the education equivalent of a hokey get-rich-quick in real estate seminar, not some academic meeting or NEA conference. i.e., Devry not Georgetown. It survives almost entirely on the basis of being a get-away to a desirable location for people who don't have to pay for it themselves where they can charge or write it off as a partially subsidized vacation for themselves and/or their families which they often drag along and extend their stays (also part of the Swan/Dolphin business model in particular).
-------------------------------------------------------
> deFMm Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Actually I've been to the same hotels where
> this
> > is being held many times.
>
> Worked housekeeping for a while after you couldn't
> make airfare back to DC?
>
> > Among many others elsewhere. Including
> 'beautiful'
> > Cleveland. It sucked.
>
> It's getting pretty deep in here. Of course,
> people painted into corners often react in
> desperate and illogical ways.
Yeah, nobody around here in the tech industry servicing the government ever goes to these conferences and other similar events. It's some exclusive benefit offered only to the elite within their organizations. lol Derp.
>
> > This single facility in Orlando probably holds
> > more conferences in a week or two than
> Cleveland
> > does in a year.
>
> According to YOUR desperate wild-assed guesses?
> Somehow, I don't see that as best evidence. Maybe
> you should go learn more about both locations.
> Maybe you should go learn more in general. Might
> help keep you from looking like a hapless stooge
> on such a regular basis.
>
No, based on the fact that it (and others in Orlando) were purpose-built as one of the largest conference facilities in the country and their primary business model is as a destination to attract a constant stream of targeted conference business. Which they do very successfully.
> > Likewise other more desirable locations. Which
> is why
> > they have them there. Because people will come.
> (Duh)
>
> Actually, it's because Disney itself is located in
> Orlando. (Duh)
Obviously. Location being more than simply geographic location. Central FL and the Nevada desert wouldn't be very appealing destinations in the Summer otherwise now would they. (Duh)
>
> > Especially the half-assed purely for-profit
> shows like this which
> > can't draw otherwise.
>
> You know, with all this experience and insight
> that you now suddenly claim to have, you should
> really write a book. There are thousands and
> thousands of organizations out there who are at
> this very minute getting ready to send staff off
> to professional development courses and seminars
> all over the country. But these are just a big
> fat waste of money according to you. You really
> should step in and point out to the experts just
> where it is that they are all going wrong. Either
> that or you should admit that all you are is one
> too typical fucked-up know-nothing been-nowhere
> loud-mouthed FFXU goober asshole.
It's not 'professional development' other than by the most stretched definition. It's (yet another) for-profit, commercial conference run by a group which sells it as a product. It's about the education equivalent of a hokey get-rich-quick in real estate seminar, not some academic meeting or NEA conference. i.e., Devry not Georgetown. It survives almost entirely on the basis of being a get-away to a desirable location for people who don't have to pay for it themselves where they can charge or write it off as a partially subsidized vacation for themselves and/or their families which they often drag along and extend their stays (also part of the Swan/Dolphin business model in particular).
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
pull the records
()
Date: June 21, 2014 02:24PM
if you really knew Wrote:
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> I would like to see a list of what they use the
> County credit cards to pay for on these trips. I
> know in the past there have been unauthorized
> items purchased.....again no accountability
If this is indeed not a made-up trip, then it is probably too late to cancel it. It is probably already paid for, non-refundable, etc.
Somebody pull the records next month and post them here. Easily done. Ask for receipts, statements, etc.
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> I would like to see a list of what they use the
> County credit cards to pay for on these trips. I
> know in the past there have been unauthorized
> items purchased.....again no accountability
If this is indeed not a made-up trip, then it is probably too late to cancel it. It is probably already paid for, non-refundable, etc.
Somebody pull the records next month and post them here. Easily done. Ask for receipts, statements, etc.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
make better decisions
()
Date: June 21, 2014 02:30PM
This administrator trip is a failure on so many levels:
1) It is being taken at a time when teachers and students are required to be in school and are not altogether happy about being there since the days were added due to snow days. Yet the administrators somehow cannot change their long held plans to go to a conference out of state on those very days.
2) The conference itself is suspect since it is a commercial venture being run by a man who is clearly less than competent and who has come under much criticism nationally. It is also at a resort. One wonders if other more reputable staff development could be found.
3) The SB has stated that there will be "meaningful instruction" on the three added days yet they have approved the absence of critical staff for those days.
4) This all comes on the heels of a year when we were told (by Garza and the SB) that there was a budget crisis and that class sizes will be increased for next year.
5) The county is trying to implement a meals tax after increasing real estate taxes and sewer and water fees. This is not good timing for an administrator junket (do you hear this FCPS?).
All in all, this conference was not a good decision.
1) It is being taken at a time when teachers and students are required to be in school and are not altogether happy about being there since the days were added due to snow days. Yet the administrators somehow cannot change their long held plans to go to a conference out of state on those very days.
2) The conference itself is suspect since it is a commercial venture being run by a man who is clearly less than competent and who has come under much criticism nationally. It is also at a resort. One wonders if other more reputable staff development could be found.
3) The SB has stated that there will be "meaningful instruction" on the three added days yet they have approved the absence of critical staff for those days.
4) This all comes on the heels of a year when we were told (by Garza and the SB) that there was a budget crisis and that class sizes will be increased for next year.
5) The county is trying to implement a meals tax after increasing real estate taxes and sewer and water fees. This is not good timing for an administrator junket (do you hear this FCPS?).
All in all, this conference was not a good decision.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Agreed!!
()
Date: June 21, 2014 02:47PM
make better decisions Wrote:
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> This administrator trip is a failure on so many
> levels:
>
> 1) It is being taken at a time when teachers and
> students are required to be in school and are not
> altogether happy about being there since the days
> were added due to snow days. Yet the
> administrators somehow cannot change their long
> held plans to go to a conference out of state on
> those very days.
>
> 2) The conference itself is suspect since it is a
> commercial venture being run by a man who is
> clearly less than competent and who has come under
> much criticism nationally. It is also at a
> resort. One wonders if other more reputable staff
> development could be found.
>
> 3) The SB has stated that there will be
> "meaningful instruction" on the three added days
> yet they have approved the absence of critical
> staff for those days.
>
> 4) This all comes on the heels of a year when we
> were told (by Garza and the SB) that there was a
> budget crisis and that class sizes will be
> increased for next year.
>
> 5) The county is trying to implement a meals tax
> after increasing real estate taxes and sewer and
> water fees. This is not good timing for an
> administrator junket (do you hear this FCPS?).
>
>
> All in all, this conference was not a good
> decision.
+1000
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> This administrator trip is a failure on so many
> levels:
>
> 1) It is being taken at a time when teachers and
> students are required to be in school and are not
> altogether happy about being there since the days
> were added due to snow days. Yet the
> administrators somehow cannot change their long
> held plans to go to a conference out of state on
> those very days.
>
> 2) The conference itself is suspect since it is a
> commercial venture being run by a man who is
> clearly less than competent and who has come under
> much criticism nationally. It is also at a
> resort. One wonders if other more reputable staff
> development could be found.
>
> 3) The SB has stated that there will be
> "meaningful instruction" on the three added days
> yet they have approved the absence of critical
> staff for those days.
>
> 4) This all comes on the heels of a year when we
> were told (by Garza and the SB) that there was a
> budget crisis and that class sizes will be
> increased for next year.
>
> 5) The county is trying to implement a meals tax
> after increasing real estate taxes and sewer and
> water fees. This is not good timing for an
> administrator junket (do you hear this FCPS?).
>
>
> All in all, this conference was not a good
> decision.
+1000
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
jdiel
()
Date: June 21, 2014 02:58PM
"Make better decisions" summed this up nicely.
They also manage to find money for $1820 of umbrellas, $1500 of coasters, and $4602 of staff clothing.
They also manage to find money for $1820 of umbrellas, $1500 of coasters, and $4602 of staff clothing.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Better than Disney world
()
Date: June 21, 2014 03:03PM
A few years ago, FCPS paid $50k to have the Disney institute provide leadership training. They even got Mickey mouse ears after completion.
Now everyone treks to FLA for this???
I thought we were the best shool district. If so, what can the shithole school districts in Florida teach us?
What is the total cost and who is going?
If there is an expert.....which I doubt, it would be cheaper to fly them here.
Now everyone treks to FLA for this???
I thought we were the best shool district. If so, what can the shithole school districts in Florida teach us?
What is the total cost and who is going?
If there is an expert.....which I doubt, it would be cheaper to fly them here.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Star zealot
()
Date: June 21, 2014 03:36PM
Bake sale 10am Monday at Gatehouse in the lobby. Sign-up sheet-
Brownies
Cupcakes
Snickerdoodles
Chocolate chip cookies
Oatmeal cookies
Gluten-free anything
Peanut Butter cookies (peanut lovers have rights, too)
Doughnuts
You should be able to get back in time to meet your kids at the bus, even on mini Monday
Brownies
Cupcakes
Snickerdoodles
Chocolate chip cookies
Oatmeal cookies
Gluten-free anything
Peanut Butter cookies (peanut lovers have rights, too)
Doughnuts
You should be able to get back in time to meet your kids at the bus, even on mini Monday
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
what did they learn?'
()
Date: June 21, 2014 03:37PM
... coming back tomorrow full of insights, ready to work, ready to lead those in the trenches, inspirational and visionary.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
humorous
()
Date: June 21, 2014 03:58PM
^ That doesn't sound like a SMART goal.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
11:30
()
Date: June 21, 2014 04:20PM
did I hear about a flash mob 11:30 am Sunday at Dulles? How would we know who they are?
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Wash Post
()
Date: June 21, 2014 04:23PM
a good question to always ask oneself is if this would look OK on the front page of the newspaper
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
CC
()
Date: June 21, 2014 04:25PM
According to the overview, they'll be delving into the new 'common core' objectives. But wasn't VA one of 6 states that are not adopting that curriculum?
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Along for the rides
()
Date: June 21, 2014 04:41PM
11:30 Wrote:
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> did I hear about a flash mob 11:30 am Sunday at
> Dulles? How would we know who they are?
They'll be the ones with sunburns dragging kids wearing Mickey Mouse ears.
Check their social media and that of their family for pics at the park. lol
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> did I hear about a flash mob 11:30 am Sunday at
> Dulles? How would we know who they are?
They'll be the ones with sunburns dragging kids wearing Mickey Mouse ears.
Check their social media and that of their family for pics at the park. lol
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
$$$
()
Date: June 21, 2014 04:50PM
$ 575 for the basic conference, not including the pre-conference, or the post-conference, or the 49. immersion sessions (each), not including transportation or lodging. But they do get morning coffee and a pastry. Did they really say that round-trip shared van service is 36 per person? And if you'd like to stay at the swan dolphin it's 226. per night.
The good news is that they take payment in the form of credit card or purchase order.
So how many of our people are attending?
The good news is that they take payment in the form of credit card or purchase order.
So how many of our people are attending?
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
re:CC
()
Date: June 21, 2014 04:52PM
Correction, CC, VA is one of 5 states not adopting the common core. Phew.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
to what
()
Date: June 21, 2014 04:55PM
Actually, they don't leave until tomorrow. The conference is June 22-25. Sounds like they might get quite the send-off.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Modelschools
()
Date: June 21, 2014 06:37PM
Again, they should have cancelled once it was obvious that we'd have school during the conference. It would have cost $50.00 a person to cancel before May 26, but that's so much better than the thousand or so it's costing per person for a conference whose main focus doesn't apply to us! "Cancellations received prior to May 26 will be refunded less a $50 processing fee." Even if the money is from Title Somenumber and earmarked for professional development, there are much better ways to spend it! For shame!
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
no pro bono speeches here
()
Date: June 21, 2014 07:28PM
Instead of teachers getting a few more bucks, Bill Daggett relaxes in his oceanfront house that was featured in Country Living:
http://www.countryliving.com/homes/house-tours/beach-house-decorating-ideas#slide-1
http://www.countryliving.com/homes/house-tours/beach-house-decorating-ideas#slide-1
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
mass FOIA!
()
Date: June 21, 2014 08:26PM
$$$ Wrote:
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> $ 575 for the basic conference, not including the
> pre-conference, or the post-conference, or the 49.
> immersion sessions (each), not including
> transportation or lodging. But they do get
> morning coffee and a pastry. Did they really say
> that round-trip shared van service is 36 per
> person? And if you'd like to stay at the swan
> dolphin it's 226. per night.
> The good news is that they take payment in the
> form of credit card or purchase order.
> So how many of our people are attending?
I think 300 people should each submit a FOIA request on this trip.
Anybody up for lurking in the ticketing area at Dulles tomorrow morning and seeing how many people we recognize?
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> $ 575 for the basic conference, not including the
> pre-conference, or the post-conference, or the 49.
> immersion sessions (each), not including
> transportation or lodging. But they do get
> morning coffee and a pastry. Did they really say
> that round-trip shared van service is 36 per
> person? And if you'd like to stay at the swan
> dolphin it's 226. per night.
> The good news is that they take payment in the
> form of credit card or purchase order.
> So how many of our people are attending?
I think 300 people should each submit a FOIA request on this trip.
Anybody up for lurking in the ticketing area at Dulles tomorrow morning and seeing how many people we recognize?
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Bake sale moved
()
Date: June 21, 2014 08:43PM
Additional Bake Sale added to United Airline departing area.
Support our Admins. By dropping off baking goods prior to 11:00. Last minute permit application through the TIA process.
Several office staff will set a booth up. Free Will donations only!
Support our Admins. By dropping off baking goods prior to 11:00. Last minute permit application through the TIA process.
Several office staff will set a booth up. Free Will donations only!
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
nighty night
()
Date: June 21, 2014 10:05PM
See you at Dulles in the AM.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Call the press
()
Date: June 22, 2014 07:36AM
nighty night Wrote:
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> See you at Dulles in the AM.
This would be so awesome to have a bunch of people at Dulles and National today as they leave for Florida, holding up signs, with Channel 7 there to interview people going through TSA.
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> See you at Dulles in the AM.
This would be so awesome to have a bunch of people at Dulles and National today as they leave for Florida, holding up signs, with Channel 7 there to interview people going through TSA.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
yes, more wine please
()
Date: June 22, 2014 08:34AM
Call the press Wrote:
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> nighty night Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > See you at Dulles in the AM.
>
>
> This would be so awesome to have a bunch of people
> at Dulles and National today as they leave for
> Florida, holding up signs, with Channel 7 there to
> interview people going through TSA.
All talk, nothing will happen, they get a free trip to Disney World, you will be back to babysitting for the next 3 days and guess what, they will be doing it again soon. No oversite, no shame, that's how the FCPS Admin mob rolls.
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> nighty night Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > See you at Dulles in the AM.
>
>
> This would be so awesome to have a bunch of people
> at Dulles and National today as they leave for
> Florida, holding up signs, with Channel 7 there to
> interview people going through TSA.
All talk, nothing will happen, they get a free trip to Disney World, you will be back to babysitting for the next 3 days and guess what, they will be doing it again soon. No oversite, no shame, that's how the FCPS Admin mob rolls.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
right
()
Date: June 22, 2014 09:05AM
And this inspires teachers to be better . . . especially when they know those "promotions" are merit based . . .
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
$$$$$$$$$
()
Date: June 22, 2014 09:10AM
I am tallying up about $2000 a person for this boondoggle. Per diem, transportation, etc.
I am working on a sign right now. Anybody else up for it?
I am working on a sign right now. Anybody else up for it?
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Sharon Bullofit
()
Date: June 22, 2014 09:40AM
Everyone better just STFU and pay your goddamn taxes! I, AND ONLY I, decide how to spend taxes. You taxpayers are my property, and I'll decide how much fruits of your labor that you'll be allowed to keep!
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
The Realist
()
Date: June 22, 2014 10:06AM
Principal not there 4 kids Wrote:
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> Interesting news, if true.
You people have noodles between your ears.
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> Interesting news, if true.
You people have noodles between your ears.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
from noodle head
()
Date: June 22, 2014 10:34AM
@The Realist:
If this is your idea of reality, I hope you don't have any kids. Your reality is a very depressing one. Are you happy?
If this is your idea of reality, I hope you don't have any kids. Your reality is a very depressing one. Are you happy?
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
sightings?
()
Date: June 22, 2014 11:12AM
anybody get out to Dulles this morning?
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
The Realist
()
Date: June 22, 2014 11:46AM
Even the noodle-people aren't that stupid.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
YnKJ7
()
Date: June 22, 2014 11:49AM
sightings? Wrote:
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> anybody get out to Dulles this morning?
I'm on this flight. Still listed as on time but no plane here yet, so it's likely going to be delayed. Paul Wardiniski working the crowd. Head count is hard to say - but I'd say 20+ - maybe more.
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> anybody get out to Dulles this morning?
I'm on this flight. Still listed as on time but no plane here yet, so it's likely going to be delayed. Paul Wardiniski working the crowd. Head count is hard to say - but I'd say 20+ - maybe more.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
National Airport
()
Date: June 22, 2014 12:17PM
The Admin at my school is flying out of National
DCA to MCO
He promises to say hello to Mickey for us.
This guy wears a tie with Disney themes on it all the time.
DCA to MCO
He promises to say hello to Mickey for us.
This guy wears a tie with Disney themes on it all the time.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
p194
()
Date: June 22, 2014 12:23PM
YnKJ7 Wrote:
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> sightings? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > anybody get out to Dulles this morning?
>
>
> I'm on this flight. Still listed as on time but
> no plane here yet, so it's likely going to be
> delayed. Paul Wardiniski working the crowd. Head
> count is hard to say - but I'd say 20+ - maybe
> more.
Send pictures! Anybody bring doughnuts?
Can anybody run down to National and make a scene?
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> sightings? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > anybody get out to Dulles this morning?
>
>
> I'm on this flight. Still listed as on time but
> no plane here yet, so it's likely going to be
> delayed. Paul Wardiniski working the crowd. Head
> count is hard to say - but I'd say 20+ - maybe
> more.
Send pictures! Anybody bring doughnuts?
Can anybody run down to National and make a scene?
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
flyer
()
Date: June 22, 2014 12:23PM
From gate c23 @ Dulles. Airline begging people to check carryons. Fcps admins help not at all. Such community minded people.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
job bank
()
Date: June 22, 2014 12:35PM
National Airport Wrote:
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> The Admin at my school is flying out of National
>
> DCA to MCO
>
> He promises to say hello to Mickey for us.
> This guy wears a tie with Disney themes on it all
> the time.
Maybe he can find a job while he is there,, oh wait, private industry expects results and can actually get rid of the lame and non productive dead wood
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> The Admin at my school is flying out of National
>
> DCA to MCO
>
> He promises to say hello to Mickey for us.
> This guy wears a tie with Disney themes on it all
> the time.
Maybe he can find a job while he is there,, oh wait, private industry expects results and can actually get rid of the lame and non productive dead wood
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
M-O-U-S-E
()
Date: June 22, 2014 01:22PM
Humans with mouse ears instead of a mouse with a human ear . . . I guess Bill Daggett is right to be worried about the future of our schools . . .
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Billions vs thousands
()
Date: June 22, 2014 01:23PM
parents,
Please keep your kids home this week.
There won't be learning going on.
Just the wild kids, out of control per usual!
Please keep your kids home this week.
There won't be learning going on.
Just the wild kids, out of control per usual!
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
flyer
()
Date: June 22, 2014 03:00PM
Just arrived at MCO. I'd say 1/4 to 1/3 of that flight was administrators, so maybe 40 - 50 on the flight. Now some could be from other districts.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
really?
()
Date: June 22, 2014 03:01PM
flyer Wrote:
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> Just arrived at MCO. I'd say 1/4 to 1/3 of that
> flight was administrators, so maybe 40 - 50 on the
> flight. Now some could be from other districts.
PROVE IT.
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> Just arrived at MCO. I'd say 1/4 to 1/3 of that
> flight was administrators, so maybe 40 - 50 on the
> flight. Now some could be from other districts.
PROVE IT.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
flyer
()
Date: June 22, 2014 03:08PM
Waiting for bags at claim 22. Will they all take taxis or did they arrange for a more affordable shuttle bus? Or maybe rental cars for everyone to really run up the tab?
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
spittle flying rage
()
Date: June 22, 2014 03:10PM
Is up and posting
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
goGreen STEM
()
Date: June 22, 2014 03:11PM
I was dropping my Mom in Law off at National.
Flying United.
There was a group of women holding carry on bags with a logo, Go Green STEM.
We waste so much paper at my school, I assumed that they weren't FCPS.
I didn't check the Starbucks to see if any Admins were there.
No flash mob either.
At least there is the bake sale at Gatehouse on Monday!
Flying United.
There was a group of women holding carry on bags with a logo, Go Green STEM.
We waste so much paper at my school, I assumed that they weren't FCPS.
I didn't check the Starbucks to see if any Admins were there.
No flash mob either.
At least there is the bake sale at Gatehouse on Monday!
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Bake Sale 10am at Gatehouse
()
Date: June 22, 2014 03:17PM
We are still missing gluten-free items.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Baked or store bought?
()
Date: June 22, 2014 03:36PM
Bake Sale 10am at Gatehouse Wrote:
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> We are still missing gluten-free items.
Can they be store bought, gluten free? If that's okay, I can bring 2 dozen gluten free.
Too busy cutting Bix Tops for Schools to bake today!
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> We are still missing gluten-free items.
Can they be store bought, gluten free? If that's okay, I can bring 2 dozen gluten free.
Too busy cutting Bix Tops for Schools to bake today!
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Bake Sale organizer
()
Date: June 22, 2014 03:38PM
It doesn't really matter on anything as long as what you bring is very expensive because FCPS personnel like really expensive things that other people provide.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
flyer
()
Date: June 22, 2014 03:40PM
flyer Wrote:
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> Waiting for bags at claim 22. Will they all take
> taxis or did they arrange for a more affordable
> shuttle bus? Or maybe rental cars for everyone to
> really run up the tab?
Shuttle bus I think. Lost sight of the wolf pack, so nothing more to report. Orlando out.
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> Waiting for bags at claim 22. Will they all take
> taxis or did they arrange for a more affordable
> shuttle bus? Or maybe rental cars for everyone to
> really run up the tab?
Shuttle bus I think. Lost sight of the wolf pack, so nothing more to report. Orlando out.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
is this a joke?
()
Date: June 22, 2014 04:27PM
Nobody has been able to prove that this is a real situation.
It is gossip until somebody can prove what is going on.
It is gossip until somebody can prove what is going on.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Hellooooo
()
Date: June 22, 2014 05:02PM
You can't make this stuff up.
Even if it were not happening the last 3 days of school, it would be newsworthy just because it's such a worthwhile conference.
Even if it were not happening the last 3 days of school, it would be newsworthy just because it's such a worthwhile conference.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Lee pyramid
()
Date: June 22, 2014 05:44PM
Call the office of any school within the Lee Pyramid. They will confirm that the Admin. is on travel to the conference in Florida.
Yes, some have already posted on social media today.
Call Lynbrook ES and ask the office for the principal, Mary. She departed today. Has the full support of her staff ....because she was upfront and told everyone at a recent school staff meeting.
Yes, some have already posted on social media today.
Call Lynbrook ES and ask the office for the principal, Mary. She departed today. Has the full support of her staff ....because she was upfront and told everyone at a recent school staff meeting.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
keeping it simple
()
Date: June 22, 2014 06:37PM
Ok lets break this down for all the non County worker types so we can better understand this.
When school administrators retire, they look to a new source of revenue for themselves to supplement their comfortable pensions. They get together with other like individuals and form a small consultant company that puts on seminars for working school administrators. This way they can spend money on lots of different things to gain "legitimate" tax breaks while being able to write off all kinds of items.
They come up with a new learning techniques, most likely unproven, and are able to claim they have reinvented the wheel in education techniques. They then advertise these seminars and host them in popular venues that have plenty of attractive side trips such as good golf courses, good restaurants and bars, and fun things to do if the participant choses to bring their family with them .
This is not just exclusive to schools. Law Enforcement , Public Safety and other local government agencies have similar out of town conferences put on by similar "experts". Rarely does any of the information provided at these conferences ever get disseminated to the lower tier employees. In stable financial times they were maybe not ethically correct but other than hurting the morale of subordinants, they were a cost of doing business.
When for over a year I have heard and read about how the school does not have enough operating funds, I would certainly have thought a new Superintendent would have changed the frivolous spending. Apparently not. I will contact my County Board member to reconsider rubber stamping next years school budget.
When school administrators retire, they look to a new source of revenue for themselves to supplement their comfortable pensions. They get together with other like individuals and form a small consultant company that puts on seminars for working school administrators. This way they can spend money on lots of different things to gain "legitimate" tax breaks while being able to write off all kinds of items.
They come up with a new learning techniques, most likely unproven, and are able to claim they have reinvented the wheel in education techniques. They then advertise these seminars and host them in popular venues that have plenty of attractive side trips such as good golf courses, good restaurants and bars, and fun things to do if the participant choses to bring their family with them .
This is not just exclusive to schools. Law Enforcement , Public Safety and other local government agencies have similar out of town conferences put on by similar "experts". Rarely does any of the information provided at these conferences ever get disseminated to the lower tier employees. In stable financial times they were maybe not ethically correct but other than hurting the morale of subordinants, they were a cost of doing business.
When for over a year I have heard and read about how the school does not have enough operating funds, I would certainly have thought a new Superintendent would have changed the frivolous spending. Apparently not. I will contact my County Board member to reconsider rubber stamping next years school budget.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Thanks simple
()
Date: June 22, 2014 08:12PM
Please do contact County Board Members. I don't think that there is much they can do.
No auditing; no accountability for the most part
keeping it simple Wrote:
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> Ok lets break this down for all the non County
> worker types so we can better understand this.
>
>
> When school administrators retire, they look to a
> new source of revenue for themselves to supplement
> their comfortable pensions. They get together with
> other like individuals and form a small consultant
> company that puts on seminars for working school
> administrators. This way they can spend money on
> lots of different things to gain "legitimate" tax
> breaks while being able to write off all kinds of
> items.
>
> They come up with a new learning techniques, most
> likely unproven, and are able to claim they have
> reinvented the wheel in education techniques. They
> then advertise these seminars and host them in
> popular venues that have plenty of attractive side
> trips such as good golf courses, good restaurants
> and bars, and fun things to do if the participant
> choses to bring their family with them .
>
> This is not just exclusive to schools. Law
> Enforcement , Public Safety and other local
> government agencies have similar out of town
> conferences put on by similar "experts". Rarely
> does any of the information provided at these
> conferences ever get disseminated to the lower
> tier employees. In stable financial times they
> were maybe not ethically correct but other than
> hurting the morale of subordinants, they were a
> cost of doing business.
>
> When for over a year I have heard and read about
> how the school does not have enough operating
> funds, I would certainly have thought a new
> Superintendent would have changed the frivolous
> spending. Apparently not. I will contact my County
> Board member to reconsider rubber stamping next
> years school budget.
No auditing; no accountability for the most part
keeping it simple Wrote:
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> Ok lets break this down for all the non County
> worker types so we can better understand this.
>
>
> When school administrators retire, they look to a
> new source of revenue for themselves to supplement
> their comfortable pensions. They get together with
> other like individuals and form a small consultant
> company that puts on seminars for working school
> administrators. This way they can spend money on
> lots of different things to gain "legitimate" tax
> breaks while being able to write off all kinds of
> items.
>
> They come up with a new learning techniques, most
> likely unproven, and are able to claim they have
> reinvented the wheel in education techniques. They
> then advertise these seminars and host them in
> popular venues that have plenty of attractive side
> trips such as good golf courses, good restaurants
> and bars, and fun things to do if the participant
> choses to bring their family with them .
>
> This is not just exclusive to schools. Law
> Enforcement , Public Safety and other local
> government agencies have similar out of town
> conferences put on by similar "experts". Rarely
> does any of the information provided at these
> conferences ever get disseminated to the lower
> tier employees. In stable financial times they
> were maybe not ethically correct but other than
> hurting the morale of subordinants, they were a
> cost of doing business.
>
> When for over a year I have heard and read about
> how the school does not have enough operating
> funds, I would certainly have thought a new
> Superintendent would have changed the frivolous
> spending. Apparently not. I will contact my County
> Board member to reconsider rubber stamping next
> years school budget.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
prove it
()
Date: June 22, 2014 08:41PM
If they are posting on social media then put some stuff out here and name some names.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
inundate them
()
Date: June 22, 2014 08:52PM
Everybody who is pissed should FOIA the trip for their particular administrators. You have the right to know and you don't have to be considerate.
1000+++ FOIA requests should keep them really, really busy and I would bet somebody would get the idea.
1000+++ FOIA requests should keep them really, really busy and I would bet somebody would get the idea.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Why no contract?
()
Date: June 22, 2014 11:17PM
Does anyone know the name or sponsor of this Tripp?
I see nothing on the FC contract registry.
I see nothing on the FC contract registry.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
The Realist
()
Date: June 23, 2014 12:43AM
Hellooooo Wrote:
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> You can't make this stuff up.
Yes, you can. It's easy. Especially when the audience is noodle-heads.
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> You can't make this stuff up.
Yes, you can. It's easy. Especially when the audience is noodle-heads.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Gym Teacher
()
Date: June 23, 2014 12:52AM
keeping it simple Wrote:
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> In stable financial times they were maybe not ethically
> correct but other than hurting the morale of subordinants,
> they were a cost of doing business.
Real nice phony butthurt, babe, but I see you are actually too subordinate even to know what the proper word for it is.
FCPS is underfunded. That is a simple fact. Ignoring it will not make it go away. Tone up your act.
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> In stable financial times they were maybe not ethically
> correct but other than hurting the morale of subordinants,
> they were a cost of doing business.
Real nice phony butthurt, babe, but I see you are actually too subordinate even to know what the proper word for it is.
FCPS is underfunded. That is a simple fact. Ignoring it will not make it go away. Tone up your act.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Gym Teacher
()
Date: June 23, 2014 12:55AM
Why no contract? Wrote:
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> Does anyone know the name or sponsor of this
> Tripp? I see nothing on the FC contract registry.
You mean the whole thread is just a troll-hoax? Wow...
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> Does anyone know the name or sponsor of this
> Tripp? I see nothing on the FC contract registry.
You mean the whole thread is just a troll-hoax? Wow...
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
tggjk
()
Date: June 23, 2014 06:45AM
OK
For all you non-believers
Just called Lee HS. Assistant Principal Kristen McNamara and Director of Student Activities Lori Barb are in Florida for a conference. If you dont believe me, call yourself. 703-924-8300.They are with Francis Ivey, Director of Cluster 5
Did you really FCPS gives a shit about how they spend your money or how "bad" it looks given the state of economy? Seriously?
Please
For all you non-believers
Just called Lee HS. Assistant Principal Kristen McNamara and Director of Student Activities Lori Barb are in Florida for a conference. If you dont believe me, call yourself. 703-924-8300.They are with Francis Ivey, Director of Cluster 5
Did you really FCPS gives a shit about how they spend your money or how "bad" it looks given the state of economy? Seriously?
Please
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
don't try to deny
()
Date: June 23, 2014 06:58AM
"Does anyone know the name or sponsor of this
> Tripp? I see nothing on the FC contract registry."
They don't make contracts for trips. You're going to have to look in another pot. They have lots of pots.
> Tripp? I see nothing on the FC contract registry."
They don't make contracts for trips. You're going to have to look in another pot. They have lots of pots.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
get a real job
()
Date: June 23, 2014 08:39AM
Gym Teacher Wrote:
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> keeping it simple Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > In stable financial times they were maybe not
> ethically
> > correct but other than hurting the morale of
> subordinants,
> > they were a cost of doing business.
>
> Real nice phony butthurt, babe, but I see you are
> actually too subordinate even to know what the
> proper word for it is.
>
> FCPS is underfunded. That is a simple fact.
> Ignoring it will not make it go away. Tone up
> your act.
Says the person who gets 60,000 a year to watch kids shoot a bow and arrow.
-------------------------------------------------------
> keeping it simple Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > In stable financial times they were maybe not
> ethically
> > correct but other than hurting the morale of
> subordinants,
> > they were a cost of doing business.
>
> Real nice phony butthurt, babe, but I see you are
> actually too subordinate even to know what the
> proper word for it is.
>
> FCPS is underfunded. That is a simple fact.
> Ignoring it will not make it go away. Tone up
> your act.
Says the person who gets 60,000 a year to watch kids shoot a bow and arrow.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Game's Over, Troll
()
Date: June 23, 2014 08:59AM
tggjk Wrote:
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> For all you non-believers
I'm guessing that's pretty much everybody at this point. Even the noodle-heads are turning against you.
> Just called Lee HS. Assistant Principal Kristen
> McNamara and Director of Student Activities Lori
> Barb are in Florida for a conference.
Too much name-dropping, troll. It's just a cover. All over-played. Where's a believable link to the actual conference? Don't you have one? Hmmmm?
> Did you really FCPS gives a shit about how they
> spend your money or how "bad" it looks given the
> state of economy? Seriously? Please.
Pack it up, troll, and head out of town with your tail between your legs. You're toast here.
.
Attachments:
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> For all you non-believers
I'm guessing that's pretty much everybody at this point. Even the noodle-heads are turning against you.
> Just called Lee HS. Assistant Principal Kristen
> McNamara and Director of Student Activities Lori
> Barb are in Florida for a conference.
Too much name-dropping, troll. It's just a cover. All over-played. Where's a believable link to the actual conference? Don't you have one? Hmmmm?
> Did you really FCPS gives a shit about how they
> spend your money or how "bad" it looks given the
> state of economy? Seriously? Please.
Pack it up, troll, and head out of town with your tail between your legs. You're toast here.
.
Attachments:
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Gym Teacher
()
Date: June 23, 2014 09:04AM
get a real job Wrote:
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> Says the person who gets 60,000 a year to watch
> kids shoot a bow and arrow.
You actually thought I was a gym teacher? God, you goobers are one ignorant bunch! No wonder the trolls have such an easy time with you.
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> Says the person who gets 60,000 a year to watch
> kids shoot a bow and arrow.
You actually thought I was a gym teacher? God, you goobers are one ignorant bunch! No wonder the trolls have such an easy time with you.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Bugger off, troll-scum
()
Date: June 23, 2014 09:10AM
don't try to deny Wrote:
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> They don't make contracts for trips. You're going
> to have to look in another pot. They have lots of
> pots.
I'm sure your claim for the total number of pots will turn out to be at least one more than the number of pots found NOT to be reporting any charges at all related to this made-up trip, regardless of how large that number might become. That's how trolls and fraudsters work.
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> They don't make contracts for trips. You're going
> to have to look in another pot. They have lots of
> pots.
I'm sure your claim for the total number of pots will turn out to be at least one more than the number of pots found NOT to be reporting any charges at all related to this made-up trip, regardless of how large that number might become. That's how trolls and fraudsters work.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
focus, everyone
()
Date: June 23, 2014 09:49AM
Anybody who travels on our dime has to submit for approval prior to the non-local trip. The current Regulation 5310.9 says this is done through Online Travel. Reconciliation of expenses is to be submitted through Online Travel within 30 calendar days of return date. Every single record and receipt is public record. You all paid for these trips. Everybody has a travel claim. This is basic stuff. Particularly if you know the names, this is not tough. If you don't, ask for everybody who went on the trip and hope that they will be honest.
To obtain these records, send an e-mail to Brandynn.Reaves@fcps.edu. Ask for the information approving the trip(s), showing the approving officials (principal, director, Assistant Super, etc.). If you want all the supporting information, receipts, accounting data, whatever, put that in there, also. You don't have to say why you want it. You close with thank you very much, put in there how you want to receive the records (email, disc, paper in the mail) and sign very truly yours with your name, address, and contact phone number. You have to be a Virginia resident and not in jail to use this.
You should have your records within 12 working days, not counting the day you submit the request. Remember they have 4-6 weeks to turn in final receipts. You could at least get the approving document(s) now.
Any reimbursements to the employee are direct deposit, so you would need the accounting entries to see this, or a statement in the Online Travel records.
Any fee for these records should not break your bank account and will be well worth it.
The more people who do this the better.
IF this whole thread is a hoax, you have just had a Civics lesson.
To obtain these records, send an e-mail to Brandynn.Reaves@fcps.edu. Ask for the information approving the trip(s), showing the approving officials (principal, director, Assistant Super, etc.). If you want all the supporting information, receipts, accounting data, whatever, put that in there, also. You don't have to say why you want it. You close with thank you very much, put in there how you want to receive the records (email, disc, paper in the mail) and sign very truly yours with your name, address, and contact phone number. You have to be a Virginia resident and not in jail to use this.
You should have your records within 12 working days, not counting the day you submit the request. Remember they have 4-6 weeks to turn in final receipts. You could at least get the approving document(s) now.
Any reimbursements to the employee are direct deposit, so you would need the accounting entries to see this, or a statement in the Online Travel records.
Any fee for these records should not break your bank account and will be well worth it.
The more people who do this the better.
IF this whole thread is a hoax, you have just had a Civics lesson.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Gatehouse Bake sale profits
()
Date: June 23, 2014 11:04AM
How did the bake sale at Gatehouse go this morning? Will they have to set up a GoFund Me account or did the parents pull through and raise enough for the supposed junket to Florida?
Read they were still looking for gluten-free items as of last evening.
Read they were still looking for gluten-free items as of last evening.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Pm3dF
()
Date: June 23, 2014 12:24PM
Game's Over, Troll Wrote:
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> tggjk Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> Too much name-dropping, troll. It's just a cover.
> All over-played. Where's a believable link to
> the actual conference? Don't you have one?
> Hmmmm?
Model Schools Conference - http://www.cvent.com/events/22nd-annual-model-schools-conference/event-summary-6616a1a49681447aa6508967e90f3f61.aspx
It's at the Swan. Conference room rate - 229/night. Conference fee is around $500, with lots of add ons
-------------------------------------------------------
> tggjk Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> Too much name-dropping, troll. It's just a cover.
> All over-played. Where's a believable link to
> the actual conference? Don't you have one?
> Hmmmm?
Model Schools Conference - http://www.cvent.com/events/22nd-annual-model-schools-conference/event-summary-6616a1a49681447aa6508967e90f3f61.aspx
It's at the Swan. Conference room rate - 229/night. Conference fee is around $500, with lots of add ons
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
not enough
()
Date: June 23, 2014 01:08PM
Do we need to auction off a car for this? Is there a local dealer willing to donate a Mercedes or Lexus to provide for these administrators?
The kids are free in the afternoons this week to sell raffle tickets...
The kids are free in the afternoons this week to sell raffle tickets...
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Wye74
()
Date: June 23, 2014 01:25PM
Pm3dF Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Game's Over, Troll Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > tggjk Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > Too much name-dropping, troll. It's just a
> cover.
> > All over-played. Where's a believable link to
> > the actual conference? Don't you have one?
> > Hmmmm?
>
> Model Schools Conference -
> http://www.cvent.com/events/22nd-annual-model-scho
> ols-conference/event-summary-6616a1a49681447aa6508
> 967e90f3f61.aspx
>
> It's at the Swan. Conference room rate -
> 229/night. Conference fee is around $500, with
> lots of add ons
Plus travel, meals, and other adds and expenses.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Game's Over, Troll Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > tggjk Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > Too much name-dropping, troll. It's just a
> cover.
> > All over-played. Where's a believable link to
> > the actual conference? Don't you have one?
> > Hmmmm?
>
> Model Schools Conference -
> http://www.cvent.com/events/22nd-annual-model-scho
> ols-conference/event-summary-6616a1a49681447aa6508
> 967e90f3f61.aspx
>
> It's at the Swan. Conference room rate -
> 229/night. Conference fee is around $500, with
> lots of add ons
Plus travel, meals, and other adds and expenses.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
brackets, anyone?
()
Date: June 23, 2014 01:33PM
I am guessing $1999.99 per person.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Raise your aim
()
Date: June 23, 2014 01:36PM
brackets, anyone? Wrote:
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> I am guessing $1999.99 per person.
Easy. I'll take the over at about $3,500 all-in as billed through.
-------------------------------------------------------
> I am guessing $1999.99 per person.
Easy. I'll take the over at about $3,500 all-in as billed through.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
step right up!
()
Date: June 23, 2014 01:39PM
Do we have some FOIA volunteers? The more the merrier....
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
middle
()
Date: June 23, 2014 04:52PM
I peg it at $2750.
I still think this is a hoax.
But fun just the same.
I am out until some records show up here or in the newspaper.
I still think this is a hoax.
But fun just the same.
I am out until some records show up here or in the newspaper.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
gotcha
()
Date: June 23, 2014 07:35PM
Senior prank!
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
FX Tchr
()
Date: June 23, 2014 08:18PM
It is on hold for most employees! Teachers cannot even get the registration for attending a state conference for their content paid.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
teachers teach teachers
()
Date: June 23, 2014 08:23PM
That's the kiss of death for the state professional groups. It sucks that those groups are not being supported while something in Florida that is uber commercial is. I know exactly what you are talking about since my own state group has been decimated. Those groups are very valuable since you actually interact with people in OUR STATE who use the same curriculum and tests (and deal with similar problems). AND the money spent stays IN THE STATE.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
FCPS Event Planning
()
Date: June 23, 2014 08:42PM
teachers teach teachers Wrote:
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> That's the kiss of death for the state
> professional groups. It sucks that those groups
> are not being supported while something in Florida
> that is uber commercial is. I know exactly what
> you are talking about since my own state group has
> been decimated. Those groups are very valuable
> since you actually interact with people in OUR
> STATE who use the same curriculum and tests (and
> deal with similar problems). AND the money spent
> stays IN THE STATE.
Well, yeah... But you don't have free shuttle service to six championship golf courses, a Biergarten, and the Tower of Terror.
-------------------------------------------------------
> That's the kiss of death for the state
> professional groups. It sucks that those groups
> are not being supported while something in Florida
> that is uber commercial is. I know exactly what
> you are talking about since my own state group has
> been decimated. Those groups are very valuable
> since you actually interact with people in OUR
> STATE who use the same curriculum and tests (and
> deal with similar problems). AND the money spent
> stays IN THE STATE.
Well, yeah... But you don't have free shuttle service to six championship golf courses, a Biergarten, and the Tower of Terror.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Instruc Coach
()
Date: June 23, 2014 08:59PM
Homer
Model Schools conference?
I know so many people there! !! Have fun!
Amy
-------------------------------------------------------
> tggjk Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > For all you non-believers
>
> I'm guessing that's pretty much everybody at this
> point. Even the noodle-heads are turning against
> you.
>
> > Just called Lee HS. Assistant Principal
> Kristen
> > McNamara and Director of Student Activities
> Lori
> > Barb are in Florida for a conference.
>
> Too much name-dropping, troll. It's just a cover.
> All over-played. Where's a believable link to
> the actual conference? Don't you have one?
> Hmmmm?
>
> > Did you really FCPS gives a shit about how they
> > spend your money or how "bad" it looks given
> the
> > state of economy? Seriously? Please.
>
> Pack it up, troll, and head out of town with your
> tail between your legs. You're toast here.
> .
Model Schools conference?
I know so many people there! !! Have fun!
Amy
-------------------------------------------------------
> tggjk Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > For all you non-believers
>
> I'm guessing that's pretty much everybody at this
> point. Even the noodle-heads are turning against
> you.
>
> > Just called Lee HS. Assistant Principal
> Kristen
> > McNamara and Director of Student Activities
> Lori
> > Barb are in Florida for a conference.
>
> Too much name-dropping, troll. It's just a cover.
> All over-played. Where's a believable link to
> the actual conference? Don't you have one?
> Hmmmm?
>
> > Did you really FCPS gives a shit about how they
> > spend your money or how "bad" it looks given
> the
> > state of economy? Seriously? Please.
>
> Pack it up, troll, and head out of town with your
> tail between your legs. You're toast here.
> .
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Another school to call
()
Date: June 23, 2014 09:04PM
Call Lynbrook ES
Principal Mary McNamee is at the Models Conference with Frances Ivey.
703-866-2940
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> OK
>
> For all you non-believers
>
> Just called Lee HS. Assistant Principal Kristen
> McNamara and Director of Student Activities Lori
> Barb are in Florida for a conference. If you dont
> believe me, call yourself. 703-924-8300.They are
> with Francis Ivey, Director of Cluster 5
>
> Did you really FCPS gives a shit about how they
> spend your money or how "bad" it looks given the
> state of economy? Seriously?
>
> Please
Principal Mary McNamee is at the Models Conference with Frances Ivey.
703-866-2940
-------------------------------------------------------
> OK
>
> For all you non-believers
>
> Just called Lee HS. Assistant Principal Kristen
> McNamara and Director of Student Activities Lori
> Barb are in Florida for a conference. If you dont
> believe me, call yourself. 703-924-8300.They are
> with Francis Ivey, Director of Cluster 5
>
> Did you really FCPS gives a shit about how they
> spend your money or how "bad" it looks given the
> state of economy? Seriously?
>
> Please
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
how so
()
Date: June 23, 2014 09:10PM
It's hard to believe that all of the professional development ever needed couldn't be done locally. FCPS must be a HUGE buyer of teacher professional development - they can't schedule classes or seminars for people in the empty schools? What are all of the teacher and staff development days built into the school year for?
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
kkkkkkkkkk
()
Date: June 23, 2014 09:20PM
Without records, this is all conjecture.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
cost
()
Date: June 23, 2014 09:52PM
how much was spent on this conference?
what was the cost per person?
will any of these numb administrators implement their new models?
can the school system afford a new model?
what was the cost per person?
will any of these numb administrators implement their new models?
can the school system afford a new model?
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
an FCPS teacher
()
Date: June 23, 2014 10:16PM
All that ever comes of these admin conferences are school-based faculty meetings and trainings where we are "taught" how to implement the new best thing in education. We end up half-reading a new text that the school buys for us, listening to a couple of already trained teachers (admin-proteges) gush about how wonderful the new thing is, and then figure out on our own how to document our implementation of the new thing, all while continuing to try and teach the same way we always have.
Education doesn't change. Someone who knows how to do something figures out (with assistance from colleagues they trust and admire) how to be effective at teaching others how to do it. Simple.
FCPS should be in the practice of attracting effective teachers and staying out of their way in the classroom.
I came to FCPS because the salary/benefits were attractive and I had the opportunity to work with bright students. Getting in was competitive. I'm not certain that those coming after me are experiencing the same.
Education doesn't change. Someone who knows how to do something figures out (with assistance from colleagues they trust and admire) how to be effective at teaching others how to do it. Simple.
FCPS should be in the practice of attracting effective teachers and staying out of their way in the classroom.
I came to FCPS because the salary/benefits were attractive and I had the opportunity to work with bright students. Getting in was competitive. I'm not certain that those coming after me are experiencing the same.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
On us
()
Date: June 23, 2014 10:41PM
how so Wrote:
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> It's hard to believe that all of the professional
> development ever needed couldn't be done locally.
> FCPS must be a HUGE buyer of teacher professional
> development - they can't schedule classes or
> seminars for people in the empty schools? What are
> all of the teacher and staff development days
> built into the school year for?
Empty schools? Bwwahahahaha. That's funny.
What don't you understand about.....
-
-
-
-------------------------------------------------------
> It's hard to believe that all of the professional
> development ever needed couldn't be done locally.
> FCPS must be a HUGE buyer of teacher professional
> development - they can't schedule classes or
> seminars for people in the empty schools? What are
> all of the teacher and staff development days
> built into the school year for?
Empty schools? Bwwahahahaha. That's funny.
What don't you understand about.....
-
-
-
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Seriously...
()
Date: June 23, 2014 10:51PM
cost Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> how much was spent on this conference?
$0. The thread is a hoax.
-------------------------------------------------------
> how much was spent on this conference?
$0. The thread is a hoax.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
FC
()
Date: June 24, 2014 05:45AM
The trip is one issue. But the smoothies,coasters,staff clothing, pizzas are another matter. Those items are paid for by vending machine profits, not from educational funds. They generally are given to staff members for teacher appreciation week or school openings. If you divide say the coaster amount by the number of staff it comes to $6.13 each. It would be interesting to note what funds paid for the Florida workshop. Don't begrudge a teacher a coaster or a smoothie. They are the ones holding down the fort for these three days of babysitting due to unreasonable seat time mandates.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Why not.
()
Date: June 24, 2014 06:43AM
FC Wrote:
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> Those items are paid for by
> vending machine profits, not from educational
Who decided that vending machine profits, or parking fees, or any other miscellaneous income gets to be siphoned of on this bullshit stuff? It's all revenue and it should go to the schools mission, not t-shirts and coasters. I'd be more sympathetic if it went to benefit students in some way - a book bag or gloves for the kid that can't afford them, or something like that.
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> Those items are paid for by
> vending machine profits, not from educational
Who decided that vending machine profits, or parking fees, or any other miscellaneous income gets to be siphoned of on this bullshit stuff? It's all revenue and it should go to the schools mission, not t-shirts and coasters. I'd be more sympathetic if it went to benefit students in some way - a book bag or gloves for the kid that can't afford them, or something like that.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
you nailed it
()
Date: June 24, 2014 07:58AM
Why not. Wrote:
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> FC Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Those items are paid for by
> > vending machine profits, not from educational
>
> Who decided that vending machine profits, or
> parking fees, or any other miscellaneous income
> gets to be siphoned of on this bullshit stuff?
> It's all revenue and it should go to the schools
> mission, not t-shirts and coasters. I'd be more
> sympathetic if it went to benefit students in some
> way - a book bag or gloves for the kid that can't
> afford them, or something like that.
Regulation 5810 specifies what goes into this fund and says that the principal can use the money for anything they feel is appropriate. It is posted on the School Board website. Wasn't that a bad idea! This has gotten totally out of control. Now everybody thinks they are entitled to all of this.
I think the regulation needs to be re-written.
I know teachers work hard but they work for the government, and people who work for the government need to understand that having the taxpayers buy them umbrellas and coasters and meals and presents several times a month out of taxpayer dollars is not part of the deal. You sacrifice that when you agree to work for the public. It 's not that we don't appreciate what you do for our children. We do. Thank you so much. It is called ethics and the limits of the laws on use of public funds. Are there any government teachers out there?
I suggest applying for work at Georgetown Visitation if you don't like working for the government.
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> FC Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Those items are paid for by
> > vending machine profits, not from educational
>
> Who decided that vending machine profits, or
> parking fees, or any other miscellaneous income
> gets to be siphoned of on this bullshit stuff?
> It's all revenue and it should go to the schools
> mission, not t-shirts and coasters. I'd be more
> sympathetic if it went to benefit students in some
> way - a book bag or gloves for the kid that can't
> afford them, or something like that.
Regulation 5810 specifies what goes into this fund and says that the principal can use the money for anything they feel is appropriate. It is posted on the School Board website. Wasn't that a bad idea! This has gotten totally out of control. Now everybody thinks they are entitled to all of this.
I think the regulation needs to be re-written.
I know teachers work hard but they work for the government, and people who work for the government need to understand that having the taxpayers buy them umbrellas and coasters and meals and presents several times a month out of taxpayer dollars is not part of the deal. You sacrifice that when you agree to work for the public. It 's not that we don't appreciate what you do for our children. We do. Thank you so much. It is called ethics and the limits of the laws on use of public funds. Are there any government teachers out there?
I suggest applying for work at Georgetown Visitation if you don't like working for the government.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
?Florida
()
Date: June 24, 2014 08:05AM
We still don't have concrete proof that this Florida thread is not a fake. It is just a bunch of people writing things on the Underground.
I can understand teachers not wanting to ask to see their supervisor's travel claim. So, ask a neighbor, friend, co-worker, or family member to do it. Anybody who lives in Virginia can do this, as long as they aren't in jail.
The ECA figures are NOT fakes. They have been submitted to the School Board. Patty Reed has them.
I can understand teachers not wanting to ask to see their supervisor's travel claim. So, ask a neighbor, friend, co-worker, or family member to do it. Anybody who lives in Virginia can do this, as long as they aren't in jail.
The ECA figures are NOT fakes. They have been submitted to the School Board. Patty Reed has them.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
FOIA rules
()
Date: June 24, 2014 08:38AM
Once someone submits a FOIA, subsequent requests for the same info are free of charge.
Th first person will be charged but not others.
I am shocked that garza signed off on this.....dumb, dumb, dumb....
She will pay dearly for it next year when she asks the BO'S for more money.
Save yourself some money an email your school board member for h details. They won't refuse you.
Th first person will be charged but not others.
I am shocked that garza signed off on this.....dumb, dumb, dumb....
She will pay dearly for it next year when she asks the BO'S for more money.
Save yourself some money an email your school board member for h details. They won't refuse you.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
not educational funds?
()
Date: June 24, 2014 09:07AM
Vending machine profits, parking pass money, lost textbook fees, retained tuition (yes, some kids pay tuition), monopole rental, use of public building fees, etc. (this is what goes into the ECA) should be educational funds. They aren't appropriated funds, but they are funds generated by use of the schools/grounds/School Board-owned books, etc. Public money,
The ECA means Educational Contingency Account. That's EDUCATION, and a lot of people think that is NOT parties and presents and runs to Dunkin' Donuts and lunch at Bazin's for staff. Why do the staff think this is appropriate use of public funds? How did it evolve to this?
The use of the funds needs to be clarified by the legal staff and the administrators. The sooner the better.
The ECA means Educational Contingency Account. That's EDUCATION, and a lot of people think that is NOT parties and presents and runs to Dunkin' Donuts and lunch at Bazin's for staff. Why do the staff think this is appropriate use of public funds? How did it evolve to this?
The use of the funds needs to be clarified by the legal staff and the administrators. The sooner the better.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Philosophical Question
()
Date: June 24, 2014 09:14AM
If a tree fell in an empty schoolhouse, which residents were being taxed to keep open, would it make a sound?
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
retort
()
Date: June 24, 2014 10:47AM
Why is the school empty? is it because the staff are all outside having a BBQ from Famous Dave's courtesy of the taxpayers?
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
a challenge
()
Date: June 24, 2014 06:19PM
Somebody FOIA the travel approvals for this supposed trip extraordinaire-
Frances Ivey (yes, she would have had to have her application approved)
Mary McNamee
Kristen McNamara
Lori Barb
and post them here. The reports should be back by mid-July.
There are so damn many pro bono legal people out there who love to argue with the school system. Let's go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If there isn't something here by mid-July you are all a bunch of wusses.
Frances Ivey (yes, she would have had to have her application approved)
Mary McNamee
Kristen McNamara
Lori Barb
and post them here. The reports should be back by mid-July.
There are so damn many pro bono legal people out there who love to argue with the school system. Let's go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If there isn't something here by mid-July you are all a bunch of wusses.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Here's why...
()
Date: June 24, 2014 06:28PM
?Florida Wrote:
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> We still don't have concrete proof that this
> Florida thread is not a fake.
That's because the thread is a hoax. As in total wall-to-wall sham.
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> We still don't have concrete proof that this
> Florida thread is not a fake.
That's because the thread is a hoax. As in total wall-to-wall sham.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Not a hoax
()
Date: June 24, 2014 06:33PM
It's not a hoax. I was given a letter from The principal at Bucknell saying that his cluster director had directed him to attend The Model School Conference.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Give It Up ASlready...
()
Date: June 24, 2014 06:38PM
Not a hoax Wrote:
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> It's not a hoax. I was given a letter from The
> principal at Bucknell saying that his cluster
> director had directed him to attend The Model
> School Conference.
Same quality of evidence as everything offered above: FUCKING WORTHLESS
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> It's not a hoax. I was given a letter from The
> principal at Bucknell saying that his cluster
> director had directed him to attend The Model
> School Conference.
Same quality of evidence as everything offered above: FUCKING WORTHLESS
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Great conference
()
Date: June 24, 2014 07:28PM
Agree with you!
All that ever comes of these admin conferences are school-based faculty meetings and trainings where we are "taught" how to implement the new best thing in education. We end up half-reading a new text that the school buys for us, listening to a couple of already trained teachers (admin-proteges) gush about how wonderful the new thing is, and then figure out on our own how to document our implementation of the new thing, all while continuing to try and teach the same way we always have.
Education doesn't change. Someone who knows how to do something figures out (with assistance from colleagues they trust and admire) how to be effective at teaching others how to do it. Simple.
FCPS should be in the practice of attracting effective teachers and staying out of their way in the classroom.
I came to FCPS because the salary/benefits were attractive and I had the opportunity to work with bright students. Getting in was competitive. I'm not certain that those coming after me are experiencing the same.
All that ever comes of these admin conferences are school-based faculty meetings and trainings where we are "taught" how to implement the new best thing in education. We end up half-reading a new text that the school buys for us, listening to a couple of already trained teachers (admin-proteges) gush about how wonderful the new thing is, and then figure out on our own how to document our implementation of the new thing, all while continuing to try and teach the same way we always have.
Education doesn't change. Someone who knows how to do something figures out (with assistance from colleagues they trust and admire) how to be effective at teaching others how to do it. Simple.
FCPS should be in the practice of attracting effective teachers and staying out of their way in the classroom.
I came to FCPS because the salary/benefits were attractive and I had the opportunity to work with bright students. Getting in was competitive. I'm not certain that those coming after me are experiencing the same.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Ivey not heir boss
()
Date: June 24, 2014 07:33PM
a challenge Wrote:
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> Somebody FOIA the travel approvals for this
> supposed trip extraordinaire-
>
> Frances Ivey (yes, she would have had to have her
> application approved)
> Mary McNamee
> Kristen McNamara
> Lori Barb
>
> and post them here. The reports should be back by
> mid-July.
>
> There are so damn many pro bono legal people out
> there who love to argue with the school system.
> Let's go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> If there isn't something here by mid-July you are
> all a bunch of wusses.
I am not doubting that his trip is happening, but Ivey does not oversee Lee high school anymore. Makes no sense.
Who paid for this trip.....instructional services, pla....has to come from some pot of money.
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> Somebody FOIA the travel approvals for this
> supposed trip extraordinaire-
>
> Frances Ivey (yes, she would have had to have her
> application approved)
> Mary McNamee
> Kristen McNamara
> Lori Barb
>
> and post them here. The reports should be back by
> mid-July.
>
> There are so damn many pro bono legal people out
> there who love to argue with the school system.
> Let's go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> If there isn't something here by mid-July you are
> all a bunch of wusses.
I am not doubting that his trip is happening, but Ivey does not oversee Lee high school anymore. Makes no sense.
Who paid for this trip.....instructional services, pla....has to come from some pot of money.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Waste of Time
()
Date: June 24, 2014 07:57PM
Ivey not heir boss Wrote:
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> Who paid for this trip...
Don't expect answers. Just more smoke an mirrors.
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> Who paid for this trip...
Don't expect answers. Just more smoke an mirrors.
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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
world class
()
Date: June 24, 2014 09:29PM
When she became county director in 2007
Ivey said that her new position will provide the opportunity to work on a team committed to planning, implementing, and delivering curriculum services for the “world class” education that all Fairfax County Public School students deserve.
Ivey said that her new position will provide the opportunity to work on a team committed to planning, implementing, and delivering curriculum services for the “world class” education that all Fairfax County Public School students deserve.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Happy Summer
()
Date: June 24, 2014 10:02PM
Happy Summer!
This thread is dunzo!
Relax and enjoy your life!
This thread is dunzo!
Relax and enjoy your life!
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
NothingChanges
()
Date: June 24, 2014 10:24PM
Not only did principals go but several other personnel from the schools went with them. Many stayed at the conference location which was the Swan/Dolphin or another Disney property. So yes the kids and teachers had to go to school the extra days but they opted for fun in the sun. At a time when Dr. Garza is cutting jobs because of the budget and withholding a raise until November (raises which Faixfax County employees haven't received in years) they go off and spend thousands!!!! Really Dr. Garza your calling for jobs and adding more kids to classrooms because of the budget yet you allow this expense. Some people didn't even make sure they purchased airline tickets in time to secure a cheaper fare. Obviously there must be no money issue. That was poor judgment on these principals who decided to go and leave the school behind on these added days. Oh and the principal at Stuart High School that is having all the problems took two of her buddies and went off for a good old Disney time.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
No Mas
()
Date: June 24, 2014 11:37PM
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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
where is it?
()
Date: June 25, 2014 07:21AM
Not a hoax Wrote:
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> It's not a hoax. I was given a letter from The
> principal at Bucknell saying that his cluster
> director had directed him to attend The Model
> School Conference.
Post it.
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> It's not a hoax. I was given a letter from The
> principal at Bucknell saying that his cluster
> director had directed him to attend The Model
> School Conference.
Post it.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
09387564849302-0439583
()
Date: June 25, 2014 09:07AM
Raise your aim Wrote:
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> brackets, anyone? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I am guessing $1999.99 per person.
>
>
> Easy. I'll take the over at about $3,500 all-in
> as billed through.
"Travel exceeding $2000 for any single event must be approved by an assistant Superintendent."
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> brackets, anyone? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I am guessing $1999.99 per person.
>
>
> Easy. I'll take the over at about $3,500 all-in
> as billed through.
"Travel exceeding $2000 for any single event must be approved by an assistant Superintendent."
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Regional 3
()
Date: June 25, 2014 07:46PM
This is a conference for the new Region 3.
May be a cost incurred under restructuring from Clusters to Regions
May be a cost incurred under restructuring from Clusters to Regions
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
back yet?
()
Date: June 25, 2014 11:01PM
For all those saying it's a scam, are you back from FL yet?
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
CVS stocked up on aloe
()
Date: June 26, 2014 06:55AM
CVS laid in a large supply of aloe after they heard about this.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
get a bye
()
Date: June 26, 2014 09:47PM
I think CVS is going to take a bath on the aloe. This will be a non-issue within the week. Too many politically-correct people scared to rock the boat.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Aloe freebie
()
Date: June 26, 2014 10:02PM
My admin arrived back today.
Laying low about the trip. Almost wonder if they were advised not to chat about it.
Laying low about the trip. Almost wonder if they were advised not to chat about it.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
sunbather
()
Date: June 27, 2014 08:36AM
I got MY tan on a chaise lounge out in my driveway.
They are probably not chatting about it because this whole thing was a figment of someone's clever imagination. Senior prank???!!!
They are probably not chatting about it because this whole thing was a figment of someone's clever imagination. Senior prank???!!!
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Asshats Down in Flames
()
Date: June 27, 2014 09:33AM
This thread is a total...
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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
mmmm
()
Date: June 27, 2014 10:33AM
I think there are bunch of fraidy cats out there.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
righto
()
Date: June 27, 2014 10:52AM
"My admin arrived back today.
Laying low about the trip. Almost wonder if they were advised not to chat about it."
You got it. +1000
Laying low about the trip. Almost wonder if they were advised not to chat about it."
You got it. +1000
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
21st century growth
()
Date: June 27, 2014 11:05AM
When the schools start declining more, they will say that we have not been paying enough for the schools and more money will make them better.
The truth is that more taxes make those who can move out to places with lower taxes AND better schools go. This is what urbanization looks like and it is why the schools are always better in the "suburban" areas. Meanwhile, the FCPS bureaucracy is looking pretty urban as well.
The truth is that more taxes make those who can move out to places with lower taxes AND better schools go. This is what urbanization looks like and it is why the schools are always better in the "suburban" areas. Meanwhile, the FCPS bureaucracy is looking pretty urban as well.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
class of 2014
()
Date: June 27, 2014 11:20AM
I think 300 foia questions about this would make a good senior prank.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Recent grads..
()
Date: June 27, 2014 08:48PM
class of 2014,
You seem to have a great deal of time on your hands.
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> I think 300 foia questions about this would make a
> good senior prank.
You seem to have a great deal of time on your hands.
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> I think 300 foia questions about this would make a
> good senior prank.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
class of 2014
()
Date: June 27, 2014 09:10PM
We do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And we are loving it.
And we are loving it.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
summer is a perfect time
()
Date: June 27, 2014 10:23PM
Do we have the info for initiating FOIA? Lots of time on our hands, students, teachers, staff, need a project for the summer.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Been There Too Many Times
()
Date: June 29, 2014 01:38AM
NothingChanges Wrote:
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> Not only did principals go but several other
> personnel from the schools went with them. Many
> stayed at the conference location which was the
> Swan/Dolphin or another Disney property.
That much is true.
But you miss the point on how these conferences work. Sure, FCPS will pay for some younger people to attend and fill in the seminar seats and go visit the amusement parks with their own kids, who of course were pulled from school early for the trip.
But the real focus is on those administrators near the "transition" stage of their careers, to "network" with potential future employers. Happens all the time, and not just in academia. If your conference is in Orlando, Las Vegas, or (gasp) Branson, it's the little side meetings that matter most.
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> Not only did principals go but several other
> personnel from the schools went with them. Many
> stayed at the conference location which was the
> Swan/Dolphin or another Disney property.
That much is true.
But you miss the point on how these conferences work. Sure, FCPS will pay for some younger people to attend and fill in the seminar seats and go visit the amusement parks with their own kids, who of course were pulled from school early for the trip.
But the real focus is on those administrators near the "transition" stage of their careers, to "network" with potential future employers. Happens all the time, and not just in academia. If your conference is in Orlando, Las Vegas, or (gasp) Branson, it's the little side meetings that matter most.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
see June 23rd
()
Date: June 29, 2014 12:31PM
summer is a perfect time Wrote:
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> Do we have the info for initiating FOIA? Lots of
> time on our hands, students, teachers, staff, need
> a project for the summer.
This thread is probably a hoax that has gone viral.
But, if you want to give it a whirl, the instructions are back on June 23rd and June 24th. Everybody has to have a travel claim, which needs to be approved. The approval probably has the source of funding on it. Start with that. The receipts don't have to be turned in for a few weeks.
It is hard to chase what could very well be a product of a student's imagination-they probably thought they would have some fun with the 'rents, and this has been very entertaining. I liked the airport scenes and the bake sale requests, myself.
The foia contact is Brandynn.Reaves@fcps.edu.
The worst that can happen is that you get a notice that this did not exist. Nothing to lose.
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> Do we have the info for initiating FOIA? Lots of
> time on our hands, students, teachers, staff, need
> a project for the summer.
This thread is probably a hoax that has gone viral.
But, if you want to give it a whirl, the instructions are back on June 23rd and June 24th. Everybody has to have a travel claim, which needs to be approved. The approval probably has the source of funding on it. Start with that. The receipts don't have to be turned in for a few weeks.
It is hard to chase what could very well be a product of a student's imagination-they probably thought they would have some fun with the 'rents, and this has been very entertaining. I liked the airport scenes and the bake sale requests, myself.
The foia contact is Brandynn.Reaves@fcps.edu.
The worst that can happen is that you get a notice that this did not exist. Nothing to lose.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
yes!
()
Date: June 29, 2014 09:37PM
Philosophical Question Wrote:
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> If a tree fell in an empty schoolhouse, which
> residents were being taxed to keep open, would it
> make a sound?
+1000
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> If a tree fell in an empty schoolhouse, which
> residents were being taxed to keep open, would it
> make a sound?
+1000
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
fcps employee
()
Date: July 02, 2014 07:17AM
Almost every FCPS employees were upset that the six figure employees had an all expense paid trip to Disney World for a conference the last few days of school for a conference. Probably drinking champagne and laughing off of at the people they fired who are packing their bags. Garza has just cleaned the house with a fresh batch of cronies.
Working for FCPS I witnessed so much wasteful spending, I can not imagine how much worse our local and federal government spends our money.
The fact is that these people are public servants and they should not be making six figures. You do not become a public servant to live in a luxurious house and drive a luxury car...it is very self serving...while the real public servants who work under these six figure salaried arm chair commanders struggle.
Working for FCPS I witnessed so much wasteful spending, I can not imagine how much worse our local and federal government spends our money.
The fact is that these people are public servants and they should not be making six figures. You do not become a public servant to live in a luxurious house and drive a luxury car...it is very self serving...while the real public servants who work under these six figure salaried arm chair commanders struggle.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
omg the whining
()
Date: July 07, 2014 08:05PM
Did anybody ever attempt to get any records or are you just going to sit around and whine about something that nobody has proven yet?
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Teacher
()
Date: July 07, 2014 08:25PM
It happened. Got a letter from my admin today talking about the new school-wide approach we're going to start using that he learned at the Model Schools conference he attended in June.
I don't want to post the letter, because I don't want it to come back and bite me in the ass. If you're a parent, I say go for it and request via FOIA. And tell the media... T Rees Shapiro covers FCPS for the Washington Post, for example.
In addition to not being at school for sone of the most trying days of the school year, getting an all-expenses paid trip to Florida when we haven't gotten a meaningful raise in years, now we're going to have to once again re-invent the wheel through another whole school approach next year? This whole thing leave a bad taste in my mouth, and in many other teachers' too.
I don't want to post the letter, because I don't want it to come back and bite me in the ass. If you're a parent, I say go for it and request via FOIA. And tell the media... T Rees Shapiro covers FCPS for the Washington Post, for example.
In addition to not being at school for sone of the most trying days of the school year, getting an all-expenses paid trip to Florida when we haven't gotten a meaningful raise in years, now we're going to have to once again re-invent the wheel through another whole school approach next year? This whole thing leave a bad taste in my mouth, and in many other teachers' too.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
yo teacher
()
Date: July 08, 2014 06:53AM
Mr. Shapiro can get his own records. He does this all the time.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Par---teeee!!!
()
Date: July 09, 2014 07:37PM
The foia contact is Brandynn.Reaves@fcps.edu.
I can say she has gotten at least 1 POIA because I sent a request last week. From what I understand everyone else's FOIA request on this is free now. Par---teeee!
I can say she has gotten at least 1 POIA because I sent a request last week. From what I understand everyone else's FOIA request on this is free now. Par---teeee!
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
BIG FAT FAKE
()
Date: July 09, 2014 08:09PM
see June 23rd Wrote:
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> It is hard to chase what could very well be a
> product of a student's imagination-they probably
> thought they would have some fun with the 'rents,
> and this has been very entertaining. I liked the
> airport scenes and the bake sale requests, myself.
That's because you WROTE them, you useless assfuck.
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> It is hard to chase what could very well be a
> product of a student's imagination-they probably
> thought they would have some fun with the 'rents,
> and this has been very entertaining. I liked the
> airport scenes and the bake sale requests, myself.
That's because you WROTE them, you useless assfuck.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
I-66 Transfer Station
()
Date: July 09, 2014 08:28PM
This is the place for useless...
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Posted by:
oh ya , you will pay
()
Date: July 10, 2014 08:33AM
Teacher Wrote:
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> It happened. Got a letter from my admin today
> talking about the new school-wide approach we're
> going to start using that he learned at the Model
> Schools conference he attended in June.
>
> I don't want to post the letter, because I don't
> want it to come back and bite me in the ass. If
> you're a parent, I say go for it and request via
> FOIA. And tell the media... T Rees Shapiro covers
> FCPS for the Washington Post, for example.
>
> In addition to not being at school for sone of
> the most trying days of the school year, getting
> an all-expenses paid trip to Florida when we
> haven't gotten a meaningful raise in years, now
> we're going to have to once again re-invent the
> wheel through another whole school approach next
> year? This whole thing leave a bad taste in my
> mouth, and in many other teachers' too.
Do you think any of the admins care what taste it left in your mouth? They have done it for decades and will do for many many more. Garza in all probability is already crying about next years budget and the board is scrambling to see how much higher they can raise your real estate taxes without being run out of town. The only question left is do they do a conference in Las Vegas or New York next year?
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> It happened. Got a letter from my admin today
> talking about the new school-wide approach we're
> going to start using that he learned at the Model
> Schools conference he attended in June.
>
> I don't want to post the letter, because I don't
> want it to come back and bite me in the ass. If
> you're a parent, I say go for it and request via
> FOIA. And tell the media... T Rees Shapiro covers
> FCPS for the Washington Post, for example.
>
> In addition to not being at school for sone of
> the most trying days of the school year, getting
> an all-expenses paid trip to Florida when we
> haven't gotten a meaningful raise in years, now
> we're going to have to once again re-invent the
> wheel through another whole school approach next
> year? This whole thing leave a bad taste in my
> mouth, and in many other teachers' too.
Do you think any of the admins care what taste it left in your mouth? They have done it for decades and will do for many many more. Garza in all probability is already crying about next years budget and the board is scrambling to see how much higher they can raise your real estate taxes without being run out of town. The only question left is do they do a conference in Las Vegas or New York next year?
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
edwin
()
Date: December 22, 2014 03:22PM
where is the ammount they spend?
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
stealth bomber
()
Date: December 22, 2014 04:46PM
Most of the School Board goes to Nashville in March for their national convention.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
expedia.com
()
Date: December 23, 2014 12:02PM
edwin Wrote:
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> where is the ammount they spend?
We will take a look...........Happy New Year.
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> where is the ammount they spend?
We will take a look...........Happy New Year.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
So much traveling...
()
Date: December 23, 2014 02:32PM
Wonder if the AD's (at least at South County) will be enjoying a winter break like the one 2 of them went to in California some time ago? Always something going on in FFX County! Tax dollars at work. Merry Christmas & Happy Hannukah!
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
orbitz
()
Date: December 23, 2014 04:10PM
So much traveling... Wrote:
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> Wonder if the AD's (at least at South County) will
> be enjoying a winter break like the one 2 of them
> went to in California some time ago? Always
> something going on in FFX County! Tax dollars at
> work. Merry Christmas & Happy Hannukah!
Great restaurants in San Diego.
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> Wonder if the AD's (at least at South County) will
> be enjoying a winter break like the one 2 of them
> went to in California some time ago? Always
> something going on in FFX County! Tax dollars at
> work. Merry Christmas & Happy Hannukah!
Great restaurants in San Diego.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Nosing around
()
Date: January 21, 2015 07:57AM
About 100 went down to Orlando. Confirmed. See the new thread.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
it will continue, just pay up
()
Date: January 21, 2015 08:05AM
Nosing around Wrote:
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> About 100 went down to Orlando. Confirmed. See the
> new thread.
Maybe the taxpayers will get a thank you note.
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> About 100 went down to Orlando. Confirmed. See the
> new thread.
Maybe the taxpayers will get a thank you note.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
eckspedia.com
()
Date: January 29, 2015 06:32PM
Check out the non-local travel thread. Report Number 1. Orlando. The Swan and Dolphin looks like quite a place.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
Que where
()
Date: January 29, 2015 06:55PM
Where is the link to the non local thread?
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> Check out the non-local travel thread. Report
> Number 1. Orlando. The Swan and Dolphin looks like
> quite a place.
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> Check out the non-local travel thread. Report
> Number 1. Orlando. The Swan and Dolphin looks like
> quite a place.
Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by:
hgfc
()
Date: January 30, 2015 03:59PM