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Door-to-Door Rabies and Dog License Check
Posted by:
TomMadison
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Date: February 13, 2009 01:20PM
I just heard on WTOP that FCPD will be going door-to-door verifying that pets have current rabies vaccinations and licenses. The press release has more...it would be interesting to know which neighborhoods they will be visiting.
http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/news-releases/2009/021309neighborhood.htm
http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/news-releases/2009/021309neighborhood.htm
Re: Door-to-Door Rabies and Dog License Check
Posted by:
RESton Peace
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Date: February 13, 2009 01:26PM
I don't see anything about going door-to-door. FCPD had better tread lightly...
Re: Door-to-Door Rabies and Dog License Check
Posted by:
TheMeeper
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Date: February 13, 2009 01:36PM
It's great to know the cops don't have anything better to do. I know when I head out the door each morning, the first thing I worry about is getting attacked by a rabid dog.
I'm glad they're staying on top of this.
I'm glad they're staying on top of this.
Re: Door-to-Door Rabies and Dog License Check
Posted by:
TomMadison
()
Date: February 13, 2009 01:47PM
I don't disagree about this being questionable use of resources, but there is a real threat if your dog or cat gets bitten by a rabid squirrel, raccoon or fox. I would just hope that they use discretion with regard to fines on the spot...$250 seems pretty steep.
Re: Door-to-Door Rabies and Dog License Check
Posted by:
RESton Peace
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Date: February 13, 2009 01:54PM
I have to wonder, how will they approach people? That press release is vague to the point of being very questionable. If they knock on my door and ask to see my dog's license, or my cat's papers, what is to stop me from telling them the animal is dead and slamming the door? Do you think a judge wouldn't laugh at anyone trying to get a warrant to look for someone's pet?
Re: Door-to-Door Rabies and Dog License Check
Posted by:
TheMeeper
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Date: February 13, 2009 01:57PM
Oh I'm sure it's a serious situation if your pet gets rabies. But with all the stories I hear about heroin dealers at Westfield, gangs roaming Springfield, drug dealers getting stabbed, people getting attacked on trails, recurring bank robberies in Reston, it makes me wonder how this rabies thing is suddenly a priority.
Re: Door-to-Door Rabies and Dog License Check
Posted by:
TheMeeper
()
Date: February 13, 2009 01:59PM
You'd actually answer your door?
RESton Peace Wrote:
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> I have to wonder, how will they approach people?
> That press release is vague to the point of being
> very questionable. If they knock on my door and
> ask to see my dog's license, or my cat's papers,
> what is to stop me from telling them the animal is
> dead and slamming the door? Do you think a judge
> wouldn't laugh at anyone trying to get a warrant
> to look for someone's pet?
RESton Peace Wrote:
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> I have to wonder, how will they approach people?
> That press release is vague to the point of being
> very questionable. If they knock on my door and
> ask to see my dog's license, or my cat's papers,
> what is to stop me from telling them the animal is
> dead and slamming the door? Do you think a judge
> wouldn't laugh at anyone trying to get a warrant
> to look for someone's pet?
Re: Door-to-Door Rabies and Dog License Check
Posted by:
RESton Peace
()
Date: February 13, 2009 02:01PM
TheMeeper Wrote:
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> You'd actually answer your door?
>
Of course not. I was talking about "Bizarro RESton".
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> You'd actually answer your door?
>
Of course not. I was talking about "Bizarro RESton".
Re: Door-to-Door Rabies and Dog License Check
Posted by:
MrMephisto
()
Date: February 13, 2009 02:02PM
RESton Peace Wrote:
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> TheMeeper Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You'd actually answer your door?
> >
>
> Of course not. I was talking about "Bizarro
> RESton".
Is that sign on your door a permanent fixture, or was that a one-time thing?
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13 4826 0948 82695 25847. Yes.
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> TheMeeper Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You'd actually answer your door?
> >
>
> Of course not. I was talking about "Bizarro
> RESton".
Is that sign on your door a permanent fixture, or was that a one-time thing?
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13 4826 0948 82695 25847. Yes.
Re: Door-to-Door Rabies and Dog License Check
Posted by:
RESton Peace
()
Date: February 13, 2009 02:04PM
MrMephisto Wrote:
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> RESton Peace Wrote:
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> -----
> > TheMeeper Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > You'd actually answer your door?
> > >
> >
> > Of course not. I was talking about "Bizarro
> > RESton".
>
> Is that sign on your door a permanent fixture, or
> was that a one-time thing?
One-time thing. My HOA would take it down without even asking the minute they saw it in daylight.
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> RESton Peace Wrote:
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> > TheMeeper Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > You'd actually answer your door?
> > >
> >
> > Of course not. I was talking about "Bizarro
> > RESton".
>
> Is that sign on your door a permanent fixture, or
> was that a one-time thing?
One-time thing. My HOA would take it down without even asking the minute they saw it in daylight.
Re: Door-to-Door Rabies and Dog License Check
Posted by:
TheMeeper
()
Date: February 13, 2009 02:05PM
MrMephisto Wrote:
>>Is that sign on your door a permanent fixture, or was that a one-time thing?
I was actually dumb enough to knock anyway.
>>Is that sign on your door a permanent fixture, or was that a one-time thing?
I was actually dumb enough to knock anyway.
Re: Door-to-Door Rabies and Dog License Check
Posted by:
MrMephisto
()
Date: February 13, 2009 02:09PM
TheMeeper Wrote:
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> MrMephisto Wrote:
> >>Is that sign on your door a permanent fixture,
> or was that a one-time thing?
>
>
> I was actuallydumb polite enough to knock anyway.
Fixed. After more than two decades of knocking before I go into someone's house/room/office, it was hard to resist the urge.
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13 4826 0948 82695 25847. Yes.
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> MrMephisto Wrote:
> >>Is that sign on your door a permanent fixture,
> or was that a one-time thing?
>
>
> I was actually
Fixed. After more than two decades of knocking before I go into someone's house/room/office, it was hard to resist the urge.
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13 4826 0948 82695 25847. Yes.
Re: Door-to-Door Rabies and Dog License Check
Posted by:
Ken
()
Date: February 13, 2009 02:13PM
TheMeeper Wrote:
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> It's great to know the cops don't have anything
> better to do. I know when I head out the door
> each morning, the first thing I worry about is
> getting attacked by a rabid dog.
>
> I'm glad they're staying on top of this.
Animal Control operates under the police department, which is why the police department put out the press release. I suspect it will be animal control officers and not actual police officers involved with this. The press release says they will be concentrating on areas which had rabies outbreaks last year. I highly doubt they will be in most neighborhoods. It sounds like more of an education and awareness thing rather than an enforcement thing to me.
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> It's great to know the cops don't have anything
> better to do. I know when I head out the door
> each morning, the first thing I worry about is
> getting attacked by a rabid dog.
>
> I'm glad they're staying on top of this.
Animal Control operates under the police department, which is why the police department put out the press release. I suspect it will be animal control officers and not actual police officers involved with this. The press release says they will be concentrating on areas which had rabies outbreaks last year. I highly doubt they will be in most neighborhoods. It sounds like more of an education and awareness thing rather than an enforcement thing to me.
Re: Door-to-Door Rabies and Dog License Check
Posted by:
Life
()
Date: February 13, 2009 02:21PM
TheMeeper Wrote:
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> You'd actually answer your door?
>
>
> RESton Peace Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I have to wonder, how will they approach people?
>
> > That press release is vague to the point of
> being
> > very questionable. If they knock on my door
> and
> > ask to see my dog's license, or my cat's
> papers,
> > what is to stop me from telling them the animal
> is
> > dead and slamming the door? Do you think a
> judge
> > wouldn't laugh at anyone trying to get a
> warrant
> > to look for someone's pet?
No, I would let my dog answer it.
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> You'd actually answer your door?
>
>
> RESton Peace Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I have to wonder, how will they approach people?
>
> > That press release is vague to the point of
> being
> > very questionable. If they knock on my door
> and
> > ask to see my dog's license, or my cat's
> papers,
> > what is to stop me from telling them the animal
> is
> > dead and slamming the door? Do you think a
> judge
> > wouldn't laugh at anyone trying to get a
> warrant
> > to look for someone's pet?
No, I would let my dog answer it.
Re: Door-to-Door Rabies and Dog License Check
Posted by:
TomMadison
()
Date: February 13, 2009 03:21PM
It would hard to simply ignore the door since my dogs, all four of them, would be going ballistic once they heard a knock or the bell. I was wondering, however, what your rights are in this situation and whether you can simply refuse to answer their questions. How forceful would they be?
Re: Door-to-Door Rabies and Dog License Check
Posted by:
TheMeeper
()
Date: February 13, 2009 03:57PM
Ken Wrote:
>> I suspect it will be animal control officers and not actual police officers
That is more sensible, I didn't realize the dogcatchers were under FCPD.
I'm sure you could refuse to answer their questions, although if they ask for your ID it's probably a good idea to comply.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/13/2009 04:16PM by TheMeeper.
>> I suspect it will be animal control officers and not actual police officers
That is more sensible, I didn't realize the dogcatchers were under FCPD.
I'm sure you could refuse to answer their questions, although if they ask for your ID it's probably a good idea to comply.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/13/2009 04:16PM by TheMeeper.
Re: Door-to-Door Rabies and Dog License Check
Posted by:
Merritt
()
Date: February 13, 2009 04:04PM
sure, they can see the rabies and license paperwork for my dogs....when they bring me a warrant
Re: Door-to-Door Rabies and Dog License Check
Posted by:
TomMadison
()
Date: February 13, 2009 04:15PM
Merritt Wrote:
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> sure, they can see the rabies and license
> paperwork for my dogs....when they bring me a
> warrant
That was essentially my question, but my guess is that they will have a report with dogs & cats licensed at each property. I know that only two of my dogs have a current license, but all of them are up to date on their shots.
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> sure, they can see the rabies and license
> paperwork for my dogs....when they bring me a
> warrant
That was essentially my question, but my guess is that they will have a report with dogs & cats licensed at each property. I know that only two of my dogs have a current license, but all of them are up to date on their shots.
Re: Door-to-Door Rabies and Dog License Check
Posted by:
Merritt
()
Date: February 13, 2009 04:19PM
Worst case if they stopped by and asked about the other dogs, just say that you're dog-sitting for an out of state friend.....
Re: Door-to-Door Rabies and Dog License Check
Posted by:
KeepOnTruckin
()
Date: February 13, 2009 05:53PM
I know this is off topic, but how come you have to have a license to have a dog, but not a kid?
Re: Door-to-Door Rabies and Dog License Check
Posted by:
Puleeez
()
Date: February 13, 2009 06:02PM
TomMadison Wrote:
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> It would hard to simply ignore the door since my
> dogs, all four of them, would be going ballistic
> once they heard a knock or the bell. I was
> wondering, however, what your rights are in this
> situation and whether you can simply refuse to
> answer their questions. How forceful would they
> be?
I don't think you're obligated to answer - hell, maybe you're in the bathroom, but if they left some kind of note/form letter perhaps you would have to oblige. But, none of this makes sense because you have to renew your dog's license every year and you have to have proof of vaccinations - so they would be able to track whether you weren't complying just by the records on file - seems to me they could simply send notices out to those who aren't renewing the pet's license -
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> It would hard to simply ignore the door since my
> dogs, all four of them, would be going ballistic
> once they heard a knock or the bell. I was
> wondering, however, what your rights are in this
> situation and whether you can simply refuse to
> answer their questions. How forceful would they
> be?
I don't think you're obligated to answer - hell, maybe you're in the bathroom, but if they left some kind of note/form letter perhaps you would have to oblige. But, none of this makes sense because you have to renew your dog's license every year and you have to have proof of vaccinations - so they would be able to track whether you weren't complying just by the records on file - seems to me they could simply send notices out to those who aren't renewing the pet's license -
Re: Door-to-Door Rabies and Dog License Check
Posted by:
Kid-Friendly
()
Date: February 13, 2009 06:05PM
KeepOnTruckin Wrote:
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> I know this is off topic, but how come you have to
> have a license to have a dog, but not a kid?
good point. Don't get divorced in Loudoun County w/kids - they make you take a parenting class before they will grant the divorce - crazy - didn't make you take a class to have a kid -
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> I know this is off topic, but how come you have to
> have a license to have a dog, but not a kid?
good point. Don't get divorced in Loudoun County w/kids - they make you take a parenting class before they will grant the divorce - crazy - didn't make you take a class to have a kid -
Re: Door-to-Door Rabies and Dog License Check
Posted by:
tomahawk
()
Date: February 14, 2009 10:28AM
Because the douchebags who tell you how to treat your dog are also qualified to tell you you're qualified to be a parent, right?
Re: Door-to-Door Rabies and Dog License Check
Posted by:
tuna
()
Date: February 14, 2009 09:40PM
This has nothing to do with rabies and everything to do with revenue collection.
Have you checked your real estate assesssment yet?
Have you checked your real estate assesssment yet?
Re: Door-to-Door Rabies and Dog License Check
Posted by:
Loyal Employee
()
Date: February 14, 2009 10:44PM
I work at the Gubamint Center and noticed that for the last month that the lines for fines has been steadily busy. In teh last few years its always been the same, not much except for October when the county sticker was due.
FF County needs money, badly, so the are stepping up enforcement every way they can to get some revenue coming in. This is part of that. Get used to it.
FF County needs money, badly, so the are stepping up enforcement every way they can to get some revenue coming in. This is part of that. Get used to it.
Re: Door-to-Door Rabies and Dog License Check
Posted by:
Fairfax County Waffen-SS
()
Date: February 14, 2009 11:41PM
VER ARE YOUR PAPERS?
Re: Door-to-Door Rabies and Dog License Check
Posted by:
trogdor!
()
Date: February 15, 2009 01:47AM
KeepOnTruckin Wrote:
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> I know this is off topic, but how come you have to
> have a license to have a dog, but not a kid?
Damn... I'm stumped. At first I was thinking..."Well, animals can bite people and spread disease".
Then I thought about Michael Kennedy ( http://images.usatoday.com/news/_photos/2006/05/09/mug-va-shooting.jpg ).
Does make one wonder....
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> I know this is off topic, but how come you have to
> have a license to have a dog, but not a kid?
Damn... I'm stumped. At first I was thinking..."Well, animals can bite people and spread disease".
Then I thought about Michael Kennedy ( http://images.usatoday.com/news/_photos/2006/05/09/mug-va-shooting.jpg ).
Does make one wonder....