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Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: Concernedneighbor ()
Date: May 15, 2014 07:22PM

Anyone know what happened in Circle Drive, in Vienna? Lots of cops and cars. Thanks.

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: Heard from neighbor ()
Date: May 15, 2014 07:43PM

One of your neighbors was found dead in their backyard. No additional details available.

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: Unfortunate ()
Date: May 15, 2014 08:49PM

Neighbor was found dead in the woods near the elementary school.

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: Teardown ()
Date: May 15, 2014 09:00PM

Builders of million dollar homes are burying undocumented workers, etc, etc...

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: ?? ()
Date: May 15, 2014 11:29PM

Woman was not illegal and had lived there quite some time

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: Status ()
Date: May 15, 2014 11:30PM

Teardown Wrote:
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> Builders of million dollar homes are burying
> undocumented workers, etc, etc...

She was not illegal

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: James ta da ()
Date: May 15, 2014 11:31PM

Teardown Wrote:
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> Builders of million dollar homes are burying
> undocumented workers, etc, etc...


Idiot.

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: Concernedneighbor ()
Date: May 16, 2014 08:24AM

thank you, so sad.

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: Alicia ()
Date: May 16, 2014 06:28PM

Has anyone learned anything else? I grew up w/ the woman they found. Many family members found out on FB which is horrible! They have shared that services info will be shared when they are able to get over their shock and figure out what to do. I doubt they will share any details about what happened and I haven't seen any news articles as of yet....anyone know more? Thanks....so, so sad....please pray for her 10th and 8th grade children!

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: Alicia ()
Date: May 16, 2014 06:35PM

How close are you to Madrillon Estates Drive where the 16yr old girl was found dead this week?

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: Marla ()
Date: May 16, 2014 07:17PM

Alicia,
I know everyone is in shock, but does anyone know if there's a crime investigation? Was this accidental? Had she gone missing? Was she ill? Anyone know anything? I think that the police must think it's accidental, because if there was a crime committed, wouldn't we know more or would this have been on the news?

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: Alicia ()
Date: May 16, 2014 07:18PM

Have you heard anything else? My brain just won't stop whirling...did she fall, have a heart attack, was she murdered?, etc.....not sure why it wouldn't be released yet unless there's a continuing investigation and it's a homicide?

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: Alicia ()
Date: May 16, 2014 07:22PM

Marla, We posted at the same time, lol. I honestly have no idea what protocol is for dif types of investigaitons...as far as I know she was in good health and happy all around...hadn't gone missing...and to your point, it does seem there would be something on the news if they neighborhood had a reason to be worried about other attacks....I don't get local news from up that way....I'm on the Eastern Shore, VA....if you hear anything, please share! Thanks!

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: M. Zuckerberg ()
Date: May 16, 2014 07:36PM

Alicia Wrote:
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> Has anyone learned anything else? I grew up w/ the
> woman they found. Many family members found out
> on FB which is horrible! They have shared that
> services info will be shared when they are able to
> get over their shock and figure out what to do. I
> doubt they will share any details about what
> happened and I haven't seen any news articles as
> of yet....anyone know more? Thanks....so, so
> sad....please pray for her 10th and 8th grade
> children!

Alicia,

Why is it horrible to find out on Facebook?

Isn't that what the social network is all about? Especially in these days when no one really knows their neighbors or their neighborhood, local papers are gone, and centers of communities like churches and fraternal organizations have all but been abandoned.

Please tell us, how would you have preferred to have been notified? In a way you would not consider horrible.

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: Alicia ()
Date: May 16, 2014 08:57PM

I was a friend of hers, not family and if not for FB, wouldn't have re-connected....what I meant and stated, was that her family, actual next of kin found out on FB -- her sister for instance, before the authorities and let them know....FB is would not be my personal preference as a means to learning about an immediate family members death....her family expressed their opinions on her page to those of her friends who were posting in a way other than prefered .... each to his own and the right to ones opinion....our country may have its share of problems, but I wouldn't want to live anywhere else! M., hope you and your family as well as everyone else on here, have a wonderful weekend! :)

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: Vienna resident ()
Date: May 22, 2014 10:55PM

I heard from a neighbor that they suspect the husband might have murdered her.
Apparently he wasnt living there anymore. She was seen pacing and on the phone the night before, kids woke up and went to school without seeing her, came home from school and still no sign of her. Called their dad, dad decided to take one of them for a walk when they "found" her.... Pretty shady stuff..

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: chief sosa baby ()
Date: May 22, 2014 10:56PM

I herd sum1 got ran up, up on. She just want sum credit im no cashier

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: who gives a fuck ()
Date: May 23, 2014 12:01AM

Mind your own business you stupid fucking whore.

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: What happened? ()
Date: May 26, 2014 10:04AM

I walked in those woods a few days ago--someone planted a hosta and left some flowers on the spot where I presume she was found. Pretty horrible if the (ex?) husband did it and brought one of the kids to the body. There has been NOTHING in the news about this whatsoever...the Vienna police report just reported she had been found deceased and it was "under investigation."

A day or so later, in the same police blotter, there was also a report of "A citizen requested police presence while she retrieved property from the home of a deceased relative" FWIW

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: That's pretty odd... ()
Date: May 26, 2014 10:24AM

What happened? Wrote:
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> There has been NOTHING in the news about this whatsoever...

Why would that be do you think?

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: Bowery Boy ()
Date: May 26, 2014 12:25PM

What happened? Wrote:
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> There has been NOTHING in the news about this whatsoever...

Why would that be do you think?



'Cause Vienna knows how to keep a secret, see? A nice, safe little town, and that's the way we're gonna keep it. Lotsa stuff goin' on, but the mayor and the chief of police don't want nobody rockin' the boat.

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: th6yP ()
Date: May 26, 2014 12:39PM

What happened? Wrote:
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> I walked in those woods a few days ago--someone
> planted a hosta and left some flowers on the spot
> where I presume she was found. Pretty horrible if
> the (ex?) husband did it and brought one of the
> kids to the body. There has been NOTHING in the
> news about this whatsoever...the Vienna police
> report just reported she had been found deceased
> and it was "under investigation."
>
> A day or so later, in the same police blotter,
> there was also a report of "A citizen requested
> police presence while she retrieved property from
> the home of a deceased relative" FWIW

It's memorial day weekend, everyone is off that's why you haven't heard anything yet.

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: That's pretty odd... ()
Date: May 26, 2014 02:10PM

Bowery Boy Wrote:
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> 'Cause Vienna knows how to keep a secret, see? A
> nice, safe little town, and that's the way we're
> gonna keep it. Lotsa stuff goin' on, but the
> mayor and the chief of police don't want nobody
> rockin' the boat.

Every two-bit overnight break-in attempt gets reported. A rake seemingly taken off somebody's carport gets reported. You might just want to go back to wondering why you've never been out on a date yet.

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: That's pretty odd... ()
Date: May 26, 2014 02:14PM

th6yP Wrote:
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> It's memorial day weekend, everyone is off that's
> why you haven't heard anything yet.

Not everyone is off, you dumbass. And it was not Memorial Day weekend on May 15, you double-dumbass. Wanna go for the triple?

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: I know what happened ()
Date: May 26, 2014 02:29PM

That's pretty odd... Wrote:
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> th6yP Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > It's memorial day weekend, everyone is off
> that's
> > why you haven't heard anything yet.
>
> Not everyone is off, you dumbass. And it was not
> Memorial Day weekend on May 15, you
> double-dumbass. Wanna go for the triple?

I know what happened...Common Sense got a gander at Fairfax Underground, became depressed and hung himself on Circle Drive in Vienna. With the death of Common Sense, comes the end of the world. Goodbye cruel world!

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: Bowery Boy ()
Date: May 26, 2014 03:19PM

Bowery Boy Wrote:
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> 'Cause Vienna knows how to keep a secret, see? A
> nice, safe little town, and that's the way we're
> gonna keep it. Lotsa stuff goin' on, but the
> mayor and the chief of police don't want nobody
> rockin' the boat.

Every two-bit overnight break-in attempt gets reported. A rake seemingly taken off somebody's carport gets reported. You might just want to go back to wondering why you've never been out on a date yet.



Yeah, ya know, I was wonderin' why dames don't like me. I always say, when a cold mama gets hot she sizzles, but I just can't git ta first base with them. Now Mickey Spilane, he knows how ta handle dames...yessir!

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: That's pretty odd... ()
Date: May 26, 2014 03:51PM

Bowery Boy Wrote:
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> Yeah, ya know, I was wonderin' why dames don't like me.

Can't imagine.

> I always say, when a cold mama gets hot she sizzles,
> but I just can't git ta first base with them.

Why are there bases involved? Are you THAT MUCH of a stereotypical bonehead?

> Now Mickey Spilane, he knows how ta handle dames...yessir!

Not so much anymore, not that his various divorces and breakups had set much of a standard while he was alive.

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: Helpful Links ()
Date: May 26, 2014 04:04PM

Vienna resident Wrote:
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> I heard from a neighbor that they suspect the
> husband might have murdered her.
> Apparently he wasnt living there anymore. She was
> seen pacing and on the phone the night before,
> kids woke up and went to school without seeing
> her, came home from school and still no sign of
> her. Called their dad, dad decided to take one of
> them for a walk when they "found" her.... Pretty
> shady stuff..

This investigation is ongoing. No further information is expected to be released today.

Anyone with information is asked to call police or contact Crime Solvers by phone at 1-866-411-TIPS, or by texting TIP187 plus your message to CRIMES, or email your tip by visiting http://www.fairfaxcrimesolvers.org and following the link to send tips by email.

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: Get treatment ()
Date: May 26, 2014 04:23PM

Bowery Boy Wrote:
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> Yeah, ya know, I was wonderin' why dames don't like me.

Can't imagine.

> I always say, when a cold mama gets hot she sizzles,
> but I just can't git ta first base with them.

Why are there bases involved? Are you THAT MUCH of a stereotypical bonehead?

> Now Mickey Spilane, he knows how ta handle dames...yessir!

Not so much anymore, not that his various divorces and breakups had set much of a standard while he was alive.


Holy shit, Aspergers victims really are everywhere! You would really waste you time responding, point-by-point, to what is obviously a JOKE?

You must be a real laugh riot at parties.

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: That's pretty odd... ()
Date: May 26, 2014 07:32PM

Get treatment Wrote:
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> Holy shit, Aspergers victims really are
> everywhere!

No, they aren't. Aspergers is actually quite rare. Fewer than 3 people per 10,000 have it. Stupid for instance is much more common than that.

> You would really waste you time responding,
> point-by-point, to what is obviously a JOKE?

You are obviously a joke.

> You must be a real laugh riot at parties.

I doubt that you and I have ever been or ever will be at a party together.

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: Hurtful Words ()
Date: May 26, 2014 07:52PM

"You are obviously a joke."


Seriously, that's the best you can do?

Then...then...you had to say that it was doubtful that we have been, or ever will be, at a party together.

That really hurt.

Is it because I'm a well-educated, prosperous black man with a sense of humor?

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: That's pretty odd... ()
Date: May 26, 2014 07:57PM

Hurtful Words Wrote:
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> "You are obviously a joke."
> Seriously, that's the best you can do?
>
> Then...then...you had to say that it was doubtful
> that we have been, or ever will be, at a party
> together. That really hurt. Is it because I'm a
> well-educated, prosperous black man with a sense
> of humor?

No, it's in part because you are not actually any of those things.

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: I see dead brains ()
Date: May 26, 2014 08:49PM

Not to interrupt this lover's spat, but I do find it interesting that people who claim they do NOT suffer from Aspergers are surprisingly quick to quote statistics about the syndrome.

Please continue.

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: Sniffles ()
Date: May 26, 2014 10:37PM

"No, it's in part because you are not actually any of those things."


Two of the four?

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Vienna police investigate death of woman found on trail
Posted by: Updated ()
Date: May 28, 2014 02:33PM

Vienna police investigate death of woman found on trail
http://www.insidenova.com/news/crime_police/fairfax/vienna-police-investigate-death-of-woman-found-on-trail/article_7d404fb0-e34c-11e3-900f-001a4bcf887a.html

Vienna police dispatched officers to the 900 block of Circle Drive, S.E., on May 15 after receiving a report from two children that their mother had been missing since May 14 at 11 p.m.

The missing woman later was found deceased on a trail in the woods, said Vienna police officials, who continue to investigate this case.

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: WonderingWhatHappened ()
Date: May 29, 2014 12:31AM

Was it ever disclosed what happened? I think I know who it was...my family knew her and knew of her funeral last week. If it the same woman, she was one of the friendliest people I have ever known. Such a terrible tragedy. Though we had not spoken to her in years, my family has been so saddened by her sudden mysterious death. If you are so disposed, please pray for this good soul and her children also.

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: Dunn Loring Resident ()
Date: May 29, 2014 04:25PM

Any update on this story? Is that the wooded area behind Kilmer?

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: Come on ()
Date: May 29, 2014 04:59PM

Kilmer is miles from the scene.

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: Local Contractor ()
Date: May 29, 2014 05:01PM

Was that local contractor involved?

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: Viennaneighbor ()
Date: May 29, 2014 05:14PM

Woods behind Cunningham Park, maybe 100 yards(?) from where she lived--I am heartbroken about her children.

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: Dunn Loring Resident ()
Date: May 29, 2014 06:13PM

My bad....I meant to say Cunningham Park.

So, what happened to this mother of 2 children, I guess that's the question? I don't understand why it takes about 2 weeks for the police to figure out what happened, particularly, if no crime was involved. So sad, particularly with non-adult children involved.

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: Dunn Loring Resident ()
Date: May 29, 2014 06:17PM

On second thought....if its not a crime or some other potential danger for other neighbors, it's not really our business to know what happened. I guess it is human curiosity trying to make sense of a terrible thing. Still, I would hope the family and friends know what happened so that they can heal.

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: WonderingWhatHappened ()
Date: May 29, 2014 06:26PM

I confirmed it was the person I knew. It's really upsetting, and I wish we had reconnected with her in the last few years. Maybe she was in need of help. Again, she was the friendliest person I ever met. Brightened up any room. And funny. I am so very saddened by it all. I am praying for her and her family. And her ex as well.

I have learned that there is a way to donate for the children via paypal or an address. Viennaneighbor or Alicia, do you think it is okay to put up the link for it here? I am a little hesitant as there is a rather large population of scum that scurry about these posts, if you know what I mean. I wouldn't want them to send the family mocking letters or phoney donations.

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: TalenShow ()
Date: May 29, 2014 11:13PM

I nevar heard a story like this in all the years I live in Fairfax.

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: Viennaneighbor ()
Date: May 30, 2014 07:55AM

Personally, I wouldn't put that link here but that's just my 2 cents. The one person I know who knew her (and was the person who told me about it in the first place) had mentioned there was a lot of stress in the household, i.e. it wasn't an amicable splitting up. If a crime had been committed I can't see how that would stay out of the news but on the other hand it's possible there just isn't enough evidence to bring charges, even if there is a very strong suspicion of a crime.

I can't imagine what this family, especially the children, are going through. She was very religious and involved in her church, so I am hoping this is a comfort and support for all involved.

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: newshound ()
Date: May 30, 2014 05:56PM

Suspicious Event 14-05870
900 Block Circle Drive, SE
May 27 2:30 p.m.
A resident, who is taking care of a neighbor’s house, reported that the estranged husband of the former resident was attempting to enter the residence. The resident stated he did not believe theestranged husband had authority to enter the residence. Lt. Marsh responded to the residence and after speaking with the estranged husband and the family of the former resident determined that this is a civil matter and not a matter for the police.

He informed the estranged husband to seek legal advice

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: Yeah but ()
Date: May 30, 2014 06:50PM

The ex-husband is still on the title along with his late ex-wife. It's his house.

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: Jim Valvano ()
Date: May 30, 2014 07:32PM

Yeah but Wrote:
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> The ex-husband is still on the title along with
> his late ex-wife. It's his house.

His name is NOT on the title.

Legally he is trespassing and has zero right to enter that house, even if he once lived there and his name was once on the title.

Suspicious. Lord, I hope Vienna police have help in this investigation.

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: Yeah but ()
Date: May 30, 2014 07:51PM

Not taking a position on guilt or innocence. Just stating a fact.

http://icare.fairfaxcounty.gov/search/commonsearch.aspx?mode=address

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: ViennaPerson ()
Date: May 30, 2014 08:25PM

Jim Valvano Wrote:
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> Yeah but Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The ex-husband is still on the title along with
> > his late ex-wife. It's his house.
>
> His name is NOT on the title.
>
> Legally he is trespassing and has zero right to
> enter that house, even if he once lived there and
> his name was once on the title.
>
> Suspicious. Lord, I hope Vienna police have help
> in this investigation.

I don't know if it's all that suspicious. Perhaps, he and his ex had an agreement on mutual use/ownership of certain things in the house. Even if he is technically trespassing, the extended family or whoever is taking over things there might not be fully aware of the arrangement they had. I hope there was an innocent reason for his actions.

By the way, I knew the couple years ago and found them both to be friendly, good folks. I am saddened by any divorce, but their breakup really surprised me. But who knows what goes on behind closed doors.

I hope everything is going as smooth as possible for the children who are suffering the most.

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: Yeah but ()
Date: May 30, 2014 08:48PM

The agreement was that the lady would remain in the house until the eldest turned 18. Her family is aware of this agreement.

Those of us who know the family are watching the situation very closely. We expect the medical examiner and police to uncover the truth about what happened.

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: hUVLJ ()
Date: May 31, 2014 05:19PM

What is the facebook link? I want to make a donation please.

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: Vienna resident ()
Date: May 31, 2014 07:35PM

Why does the poster claiming to be Mayor DiRocco post about mattress stores but does not post on this thread?

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: My Theory ()
Date: May 31, 2014 08:16PM

Because the retail mattress industry is the heart and soul of Vienna, and the mayor doesn't want anyone rocking the boat when it comes to any discussion of mattress stores

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: xEvKn ()
Date: May 31, 2014 08:19PM

Vienna resident Wrote:
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> Why does the poster claiming to be Mayor DiRocco
> post about mattress stores but does not post on
> this thread?

Seems to be too "Controversial" at the moment.

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: Jim Valvano ()
Date: May 31, 2014 09:42PM

ViennaPerson Wrote:
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> Jim Valvano Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Yeah but Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > The ex-husband is still on the title along
> with
> > > his late ex-wife. It's his house.
> >
> > His name is NOT on the title.
> >
> > Legally he is trespassing and has zero right to
> > enter that house, even if he once lived there
> and
> > his name was once on the title.
> >
> > Suspicious. Lord, I hope Vienna police have
> help
> > in this investigation.
>
> I don't know if it's all that suspicious.
> Perhaps, he and his ex had an agreement on mutual
> use/ownership of certain things in the house.
> Even if he is technically trespassing, the
> extended family or whoever is taking over things
> there might not be fully aware of the arrangement
> they had. I hope there was an innocent reason for
> his actions.
>
> By the way, I knew the couple years ago and found
> them both to be friendly, good folks. I am
> saddened by any divorce, but their breakup really
> surprised me. But who knows what goes on behind
> closed doors.
>
> I hope everything is going as smooth as possible
> for the children who are suffering the most.


SHIT! He IS on the title. I stand corrcted. Why then, COULDNT he have gone into that house? Or, move back in?

It was not a amicable divorce.

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: UuC7V ()
Date: June 01, 2014 05:13AM

> SHIT! He IS on the title. I stand corrcted. Why
> then, COULDNT he have gone into that house? Or,
> move back in?
>
> It was not a amicable divorce.

Especially not since she was found dead outside her home.

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: Columbo I Aint ()
Date: June 01, 2014 02:54PM

I'm no Columbo, but I wonder what this was about from last Dec.


Trespassing 13-12264
900 Block Circle Drive, SE
December 05 4:00 p.m.
A resident reported that her ex-husband had been entering her home in violation of a court order.
The resident was informed of the process to obtain a warrant should she choose to pursue
charges.

http://www.viennava.gov/ArchiveCenter/ViewFile/Item/1476

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: Not Columbo, but Monk ()
Date: June 01, 2014 03:03PM

Good researching!! If she had a court order against him, that makes him a pretty good suspect, if her death was other than natural causes. How long does it take the medical examiner to release a cause of death? Is that when charges are brought? Have not watched enough TV shows to know how long it would take...

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: Columbo I Aint ()
Date: June 01, 2014 03:27PM

Things are so quiet in this case. Facebook is pretty silent on the matter which is surprising to me since this is such a mystery (to the public anyway). One would think this would induce a gabfest, a little like we have here at Fairfax Underground.

I know it is bad manners to ask how a person dies when the obit is silent. Perhaps the death was an embarrassing mistake. Like eating random mushrooms, touching a live wire, etc. Who knows. All I know, is that Columbo would have this wrapped up by now.

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: 30CAP10 ()
Date: June 01, 2014 03:40PM

MAYBE THEY WAITIN ON EVIDENCE AFER THEY SET THE MOUSE TRAP TO CATCH A FOOL.

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: Found another case of trespassin ()
Date: June 01, 2014 03:44PM

Columbo I Aint Wrote:
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> I'm no Columbo, but I wonder what this was about
> from last Dec.
>
>
> Trespassing 13-12264
> 900 Block Circle Drive, SE
> December 05 4:00 p.m.
> A resident reported that her ex-husband had been
> entering her home in violation of a court order.
> The resident was informed of the process to obtain
> a warrant should she choose to pursue
> charges.
>
> http://www.viennava.gov/ArchiveCenter/ViewFile/Ite
> m/1476

I found this from the patch from the week of October 18th 2012...

http://vienna.patch.com/groups/police-and-fire/p/police-log-halloween-decorations-stolen-e43464eb

A resident on the 900 block of Circle Drive SE reported she and her ex-husband have joint custody of their children. The ex-husband went to the residence to pick up the children and entered the residence, which is in violation of the custody agreement, around 7:21 p.m. Oct. 19. Sgt. Elias reminded the ex-husband of the terms of the custody agreement.

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: Somebodysomewhere ()
Date: June 01, 2014 07:46PM

Good job finding that. Very interesting. And sad. Seems as though the husband was in denial about the divorce. I don't think he would be a suspect but perhaps an indirect cause. Maybe the woman had a heart attack as a result of getting all worked up talking with him on the phone.

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: Found another case of trespassin ()
Date: June 01, 2014 07:55PM

Somebodysomewhere Wrote:
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> Good job finding that. Very interesting. And sad.
> Seems as though the husband was in denial about
> the divorce. I don't think he would be a suspect
> but perhaps an indirect cause. Maybe the woman
> had a heart attack as a result of getting all
> worked up talking with him on the phone.

Hmmmmmm...But you still have the question of why the mother left the house with the two children in it. It seems suspicious to me...

Posted by: Updated ()
Date: May 28, 2014 02:33PM

Vienna police investigate death of woman found on trail
http://www.insidenova.com/news/crime_police/fairfax/vienna-police-investigate-death-of-woman-found-on-trail/article_7d404fb0-e34c-11e3-900f-001a4bcf887a.html

Vienna police dispatched officers to the 900 block of Circle Drive, S.E., on May 15 after receiving a report from two children that their mother had been missing since May 14 at 11 p.m.

The missing woman later was found deceased on a trail in the woods, said Vienna police officials, who continue to investigate this case.

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: Columbo I Aint ()
Date: June 01, 2014 08:28PM

Well, I don't know what the trail is like, but maybe she was taking a walk, kind of spacing off while she was on the phone...fully intending to return, but had a heart attack or aneurysm. I would think the medical examiner could confirm either of those scenarios, but I don't know. Perhaps there is more giving them pause to consider something else.

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: Columbo I Aint ()
Date: June 01, 2014 08:33PM

If they finish there investigation, do the police have to make it public? Will the family ever know what happened? The public? I cannot imagine for them, first the loss and then the why which may never have an answer. What a brain twist.


Some here have mentioned prayers for the family. I fully concur!

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: Publius ()
Date: June 01, 2014 09:04PM

She did not die of a heart attack or aneurysm.

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: Columbo I Aint ()
Date: June 01, 2014 09:06PM

Publius, how do you know? There has been nothing in the media about it. And, so far as I know, nothing on Facebook. Are you family or family friend?

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: DxTkG ()
Date: June 02, 2014 12:24PM

Publius Wrote:
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> She did not die of a heart attack or aneurysm.

There is some speculation that she was with someone on the trail talking. Maybe the ex-hubby?

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: Call for GordonBlvd! ()
Date: June 02, 2014 12:40PM

GordonBlvd is our resident doyen of murder mysteries...she can solve anything!

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: skylightblvd. ()
Date: June 02, 2014 01:13PM

Now the wife has passed away. The children should go with the father. Correct? He had visitation rights. if so, whys he not able to resume living in his house. Other than creepiness and unanswered questions, would not the court order on visitation be null. Court order was not a matter of danger to children but divided parenting. Correct? Wonder if the woman's family is taking custody assuming suspicions. A sad mess.

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: ViennaPerson ()
Date: June 02, 2014 01:20PM

This case is so upsetting. I have been losing some sleep thinking about it with so much mystery. I wish I could go back in time and freeze the family as they were when I knew them way back. Seemingly happy then.

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: Trailwalker ()
Date: June 02, 2014 01:27PM

The trail is not treacherous per se--there are some roots and such, and it could possibly have been muddy/slippery, esp. in the evening if you could not see, but there aren't big rocks there to fall and hit your head, for example. The whole thing is so very strange--why she would leave the house in the evening like that, with 2 kids, alone, to walk in those woods which are NOT lit, and fairly dense now that all the foliage has come in. How does someone just end up dead in that situation?

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: Publius ()
Date: June 02, 2014 02:21PM

She went missing overnight. School began and no one saw her. School ended, and still no one had seen her.

Children who live near the swim club use that trail as a shortcut to and from school.

Perhaps no one used the trail at all that day.

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: RUTSYSNAIL ()
Date: June 02, 2014 03:30PM

Sure sounds kooky. Foul play or she be hallucinatin through the forest and collapsed. If the former, is the neighborhood "safe"?

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: RUTSYSNAIL ()
Date: June 02, 2014 03:32PM

Call for GordonBlvd! Wrote:
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> GordonBlvd is our resident doyen of murder
> mysteries...she can solve anything!

She be workin overtime on this one!

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: RUTSYSNAIL ()
Date: June 02, 2014 03:36PM

I just thought of somethin ....maybe she was in the forest looking for a pet cat or dog. That would explain the trip to the woods after dark. didn't we have torrential rains that night? Was she hit by lightnin. Fall in a puddle of rain?

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: ViennaPerson ()
Date: June 02, 2014 03:41PM

Publius Wrote:
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> She did not die of a heart attack or aneurysm.

You must know other things if you know this. Was she super depressed? She was a very religious woman with lots of friends, so going that way seems way out of character. I have trouble even thinking about it.

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: Publius ()
Date: June 02, 2014 07:58PM

RUTSYSNAIL Wrote:
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> I just thought of somethin ....maybe she was in
> the forest looking for a pet cat or dog. That
> would explain the trip to the woods after dark.
> didn't we have torrential rains that night? Was
> she hit by lightnin. Fall in a puddle of rain?

She did have pets so searching for one is conceivable. However, the body bore no external signs of trauma.

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: Publius ()
Date: June 02, 2014 08:00PM

RUTSYSNAIL Wrote:
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> didn't we have torrential rains that night? Was
> she hit by lightnin. Fall in a puddle of rain?

The torrential rains happened the night after her body was found.

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: RUTSYSNAIL ()
Date: June 02, 2014 11:31PM

This is a real stretch, but could it be that she entered the woods looking for a pet, got lost for a long time in the darkness, and succumbed to hypothermia? She was a petite woman. It was raining on May 15, but not sure if it had started yet in the early morning hours. It got down to the 60s that night with a 8 mph breeze (if I am reading the chart correctly from that night)...

http://www.wunderground.com/history/zipcode/22180/2014/5/14/DailyHistory.html?req_city=NA&req_state=NA&req_statename=NA

One can get hypothermia at mild temperatures given certain factors. Length of time, was she wet, etc. If she had flu, I would think that would contribute as well.

From: http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Hypothermia/Pages/Causes.aspx

It's also possible to get hypothermia in mild weather. For example, if you're soaked in the rain and don't dry off properly soon afterwards (particularly if there is a cool wind), the water evaporates from your skin and lowers your body temperature.

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: uhhuh ()
Date: June 02, 2014 11:47PM

hope the medical examiners taking notes. you sherlocks have it all figured out.

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: Puddinhead Wilson ()
Date: June 03, 2014 09:50AM

The Vienna Police Department has just been disbanded, since this case is well on its way to being solved without their help.

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: ...it... ()
Date: June 03, 2014 10:07AM

The citizens of Vienna are incredible!

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: Publius ()
Date: June 03, 2014 10:49AM

Just getting warmed up.

- She had become very thin.
- She had a worrisome financial issue.
- She received bad news about a family member a day or two prior to her death.
- She had too much wine the night she went missing.

At the same time:

- She had taken up yoga and a gluten-free diet.
- She was recently promoted at work.
- She was devoted to her children.
- She had a superstitious fear of hell and believed suicide meant damnation.

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: On the case ()
Date: June 03, 2014 10:53AM

Sir, the fact that the dog did not bark at all is what is disturbing.

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: i really want to help ()
Date: June 03, 2014 10:58AM

but i can't help buy wonder if people posting these 'facts' really know what happened and these are actually facts, or people are just making stuff up? and have people shared these 'facts' with the police?

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: ViennaPerson ()
Date: June 03, 2014 05:24PM

Publius has given use some of the most interesting information. But other than LM being thin, taking up yoga, and loving the kids, I can't second any of the rest. I am still wondering how Publius knows there was no heart attack, stroke, etc.


Is it even remotely possible she got "lost" in the forest behind her house? Someone said how dark it can be back there.

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: The Olde Sleuth ()
Date: June 03, 2014 06:14PM

The bullet was made out of ice!

It melts, and there's no evidence!

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: skittlesarebeautiful ()
Date: June 03, 2014 08:34PM

There has to be more to this story...ruling out heart attack and stroke, no outward marks....I mean what the heck?! Maybe they will just decide it was "natural causes" in the middle of a forest behind her house.

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: HelpTheSherlockians ()
Date: June 03, 2014 10:04PM

As mysterious as they come. I hope what happened is revealed and not filed as a misc. natural cause and closed case. Maybe there is a lesson to be learned. I have thought about walking in the woods behind Cunningham just to see what's back there but the creepy factor is just way too high. Seems a little too ghoulish.

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: post ()
Date: June 03, 2014 10:15PM

This whole thread is awful, like peeping toms on this poor
womans death. The pain is still fresh. There are children
without a mom, sisters without a sister, and an ex-husband
who lost a copilot in raising those kids. God knows what
the confusion he must be having as well. If we are to know
what happened we will find out. Until then, have respect.
This thread should be closed down.

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: RUTSYSNAIL ()
Date: June 03, 2014 11:54PM

Chill, dude. Nobody has used names of those involved. Don't you think friends should know?

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: Questions for Publius ()
Date: June 04, 2014 06:47AM

Publius Wrote:
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> Just getting warmed up.
>
> - She had become very thin.
> - She had a worrisome financial issue.
> - She received bad news about a family member a
> day or two prior to her death.
> - She had too much wine the night she went
> missing.
>
> At the same time:
>
> - She had taken up yoga and a gluten-free diet.
> - She was recently promoted at work.
> - She was devoted to her children.
> - She had a superstitious fear of hell and
> believed suicide meant damnation.

What was the bad news she received about a family member?

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: Publius ()
Date: June 04, 2014 07:47AM

Ah, yes. A valued member of the community turns up dead, under mysterious circumstances, on a well-used public trail yards from the neighborhood elementary school property line. But according to “post” above, none of this is anyone’s concern.

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: KUcdx ()
Date: June 04, 2014 07:50AM

And except for Fairfax Underground and a brief snippet from InsideNova, no one, and I mean NO One is talking about it. (Not even the Vienna Patch).

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: Stumpy ()
Date: June 04, 2014 09:34AM

I said this before, see, Vienna's the kinda town that knows how ta keep secrets. The mayor's in bed with the mattress factories, and they don't want no trouble. Vienna Patch? That's a good one...the editor rocks the boat, couple goons take her for a ride...you won't see nothin' in the Vienna Patch.

Now if a gumshoe were were to elbow up to the counter at the Vienna Inn, buy a few rounds o' rye whiskey for the mattress workers there, someone might say somethin,' but it wasn't me who told ya that...now scram before the cops see me talkin' to you...

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: Worried Resident ()
Date: June 04, 2014 07:58PM

Are there really mattress factories in Vienna? On Mill Street or Dominion Road?

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: ISeeClowns ()
Date: June 04, 2014 08:30PM

Knock it off with the mattress "jokes"...this is about a dead woman and serious business...stop bumping it with this crap....save your bs for the lamb center threads or, better yet, spend your time getting ready for your SOL exams tomorrow.

Signed,
Your dad

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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by: Already passed my SOL's ()
Date: June 04, 2014 10:14PM

Oh right...this is a thread that's going to solve a crime...

Go back to your surreptitious porn viewing, "Dad."

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