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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Hmmmmmm
()
Date: June 05, 2014 08:21AM
KUcdx Wrote:
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> And except for Fairfax Underground and a brief
> snippet from InsideNova, no one, and I mean NO One
> is talking about it. (Not even the Vienna Patch).
I think the reason for that is because everyone is being led to believe that this “might” be a suicide. When you have a suicide in the area, many of the papers opt not to report on the death. Personally I can see some good reasons for not posting something like that if that’s case. Seems highly unlikely to me that a mother of two would go off on the path to do that, especially since she was so protective of them from the father in the past.
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> And except for Fairfax Underground and a brief
> snippet from InsideNova, no one, and I mean NO One
> is talking about it. (Not even the Vienna Patch).
I think the reason for that is because everyone is being led to believe that this “might” be a suicide. When you have a suicide in the area, many of the papers opt not to report on the death. Personally I can see some good reasons for not posting something like that if that’s case. Seems highly unlikely to me that a mother of two would go off on the path to do that, especially since she was so protective of them from the father in the past.
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Female Fan
()
Date: June 05, 2014 09:46AM
We should get that new guy from the show, "Sherlock" on the case...Benedict Cumberbatch...he'd solve this in a minute...also, he's dreamy..
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Publius
()
Date: June 05, 2014 10:36AM
> I think the reason for that is because everyone is
> being led to believe that this “might” be a
> suicide.
I agree. That could still turn out to be the case.
If so, it was accidental or unpremeditated because there was no note for the children or other tying up of loose ends. Also, she evidently intended to return to the house that night.
> being led to believe that this “might” be a
> suicide.
I agree. That could still turn out to be the case.
If so, it was accidental or unpremeditated because there was no note for the children or other tying up of loose ends. Also, she evidently intended to return to the house that night.
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Vienna Mystery
()
Date: June 05, 2014 11:01AM
she was so protective of them from the
> father in the past.
Don't understand the ambivalence toward the father..."protective"
of the children from the father. I never heard anything about
the children needing protection from the father. The divorce, as I
recall, hinged on other matters.
I'm just about convinced the combination of wine (if true), diet
(gluten free), loss in weight, anxiety, cool/wet night, and loss
of orientation in the woods resulted in a freak loss of life by
hypothermia. No one has been able to sweep that one away.
> father in the past.
Don't understand the ambivalence toward the father..."protective"
of the children from the father. I never heard anything about
the children needing protection from the father. The divorce, as I
recall, hinged on other matters.
I'm just about convinced the combination of wine (if true), diet
(gluten free), loss in weight, anxiety, cool/wet night, and loss
of orientation in the woods resulted in a freak loss of life by
hypothermia. No one has been able to sweep that one away.
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Look Hear
()
Date: June 05, 2014 11:29AM
I really liked the wife and the husband. I was so confused, saddened,
and very torn when I heard they were divorcing. So much so that the break
probably unintentionally led to a fading away of our friendships.
(I stupidly did no attend the funeral. Though I hadn't seen the woman in
years, I should have paid my respects. In lieu of that, I have sent and will
continue to send plenty of prayers for her and her family. I wonder if the
exhusband was welcomed/allowed to attend. I gather he didn't want the divorce
to being with)
and very torn when I heard they were divorcing. So much so that the break
probably unintentionally led to a fading away of our friendships.
(I stupidly did no attend the funeral. Though I hadn't seen the woman in
years, I should have paid my respects. In lieu of that, I have sent and will
continue to send plenty of prayers for her and her family. I wonder if the
exhusband was welcomed/allowed to attend. I gather he didn't want the divorce
to being with)
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Plausible
()
Date: June 05, 2014 07:31PM
I'm just about convinced the combination of wine (if true), diet
(gluten free), loss in weight, anxiety, cool/wet night, and loss
of orientation in the woods resulted in a freak loss of life by
hypothermia. No one has been able to sweep that one away.
Um, we're talking suburban Vienna here, not Denali National Park...
(gluten free), loss in weight, anxiety, cool/wet night, and loss
of orientation in the woods resulted in a freak loss of life by
hypothermia. No one has been able to sweep that one away.
Um, we're talking suburban Vienna here, not Denali National Park...
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Vienna Mystery
()
Date: June 05, 2014 08:08PM
Plausible Wrote:
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>>
>
> Um, we're talking suburban Vienna here, not Denali
> National Park...
Yeah, I know. But that is precisely why the
family/friends may be hush about it. The embarrassment
factor. "How could you get lost in a 100 square yards
forest?!!" However, I think, given the right
circumstances, the same thing could happen to anyone.
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>>
>
> Um, we're talking suburban Vienna here, not Denali
> National Park...
Yeah, I know. But that is precisely why the
family/friends may be hush about it. The embarrassment
factor. "How could you get lost in a 100 square yards
forest?!!" However, I think, given the right
circumstances, the same thing could happen to anyone.
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Dj am
()
Date: June 05, 2014 08:13PM
Look Hear Wrote:
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> I really liked the wife and the husband. I was so
> confused, saddened,
> and very torn when I heard they were divorcing. So
> much so that the break
> probably unintentionally led to a fading away of
> our friendships.
>
> (I stupidly did no attend the funeral. Though I
> hadn't seen the woman in
> years, I should have paid my respects. In lieu of
> that, I have sent and will
> continue to send plenty of prayers for her and her
> family. I wonder if the
> exhusband was welcomed/allowed to attend. I
> gather he didn't want the divorce
Husband was at funeral, but never mentioned once or referred to during. Notice obituary reads as if deceased was a single parent and that father of children was unknown.
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> I really liked the wife and the husband. I was so
> confused, saddened,
> and very torn when I heard they were divorcing. So
> much so that the break
> probably unintentionally led to a fading away of
> our friendships.
>
> (I stupidly did no attend the funeral. Though I
> hadn't seen the woman in
> years, I should have paid my respects. In lieu of
> that, I have sent and will
> continue to send plenty of prayers for her and her
> family. I wonder if the
> exhusband was welcomed/allowed to attend. I
> gather he didn't want the divorce
Husband was at funeral, but never mentioned once or referred to during. Notice obituary reads as if deceased was a single parent and that father of children was unknown.
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Vienna Mystery
()
Date: June 05, 2014 08:22PM
I knew the husband to be a quiet, nice guy. Maybe too nice for his own good. But then, again, I didn't know him that well.
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
ViennaPerson
()
Date: June 05, 2014 08:42PM
> Husband was at funeral, but never mentioned once
> or referred to during. Notice obituary reads as if
> deceased was a single parent and that father of
> children was unknown.
That sounds pretty unwelcoming. What did he do wrong? Was the funeral at her church? If so, it was probably brave for him to go. Daniel in the lion's den.
> or referred to during. Notice obituary reads as if
> deceased was a single parent and that father of
> children was unknown.
That sounds pretty unwelcoming. What did he do wrong? Was the funeral at her church? If so, it was probably brave for him to go. Daniel in the lion's den.
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
ViennaPerson
()
Date: June 05, 2014 08:44PM
Of course, maybe many thought he had something to do with it. How awkward!
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Dj am
()
Date: June 06, 2014 07:29AM
ViennaPerson Wrote:
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> > Husband was at funeral, but never mentioned
> once
> > or referred to during. Notice obituary reads as
> if
> > deceased was a single parent and that father of
> > children was unknown.
>
> That sounds pretty unwelcoming. What did he do
> wrong? Was the funeral at her church? If so, it
> was probably brave for him to go. Daniel in the
> lion's den.
Yes, at her church. Was very much on the sidelines, not sitting near relatives, ignored afterwards.
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> > Husband was at funeral, but never mentioned
> once
> > or referred to during. Notice obituary reads as
> if
> > deceased was a single parent and that father of
> > children was unknown.
>
> That sounds pretty unwelcoming. What did he do
> wrong? Was the funeral at her church? If so, it
> was probably brave for him to go. Daniel in the
> lion's den.
Yes, at her church. Was very much on the sidelines, not sitting near relatives, ignored afterwards.
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Publius
()
Date: June 06, 2014 08:32AM
> I'm just about convinced the combination of wine
> (if true), diet
> (gluten free), loss in weight, anxiety, cool/wet
> night, and loss
> of orientation in the woods resulted in a freak
> loss of life by
> hypothermia. No one has been able to sweep that
> one away.
Possible but unlikely because Occam's razor.
Also, none of this explains what the hell she was doing on that trail in the middle of the night.
She was last seen standing in her driveway at 11 pm on a school/work night. Why so late? Why the driveway?
> (if true), diet
> (gluten free), loss in weight, anxiety, cool/wet
> night, and loss
> of orientation in the woods resulted in a freak
> loss of life by
> hypothermia. No one has been able to sweep that
> one away.
Possible but unlikely because Occam's razor.
Also, none of this explains what the hell she was doing on that trail in the middle of the night.
She was last seen standing in her driveway at 11 pm on a school/work night. Why so late? Why the driveway?
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Vienna Irregular
()
Date: June 06, 2014 09:53AM
Perhaps one of us should dress in mufti and visit the Vienna Inn, perhaps we could overhear something?
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
SmacksofGum
()
Date: June 06, 2014 01:53PM
> >
> Also, none of this explains what the hell she was
> doing on that trail in the middle of the night.
"Here kitty, kitty! Come back to mama!"
She was apparently very attached to her cats.
If it was hypothermia, she would be (and probably is now) highly embarrassed.
> Also, none of this explains what the hell she was
> doing on that trail in the middle of the night.
"Here kitty, kitty! Come back to mama!"
She was apparently very attached to her cats.
If it was hypothermia, she would be (and probably is now) highly embarrassed.
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Sad
()
Date: June 06, 2014 01:58PM
> Yes, at her church. Was very much on the
> sidelines, not sitting near relatives, ignored
> afterwards.
Seems like a mob mentality us against him. I wonder if the church elders reached out to him before or after the divorce. The Christian thing to do, you know...
> sidelines, not sitting near relatives, ignored
> afterwards.
Seems like a mob mentality us against him. I wonder if the church elders reached out to him before or after the divorce. The Christian thing to do, you know...
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Sad2
()
Date: June 06, 2014 02:09PM
So noone said anything to him (that you could see) at the funeral? Was he allowed to wave to his children? Please forgive me if I have him pegged all wrong.
In any event, that is all passed and cannot be undone. I hope there is a resolution to how the woman passed on. I hope lessons are learned. I hope healing accelerates and some kind of good comes from all this even if it's not realized until the afterlife. These things have a ripple effect. I know I will be more thankful for my wife after hearing all this. Maybe strangers reading about this will find a message that makes them a better person.
In any event, that is all passed and cannot be undone. I hope there is a resolution to how the woman passed on. I hope lessons are learned. I hope healing accelerates and some kind of good comes from all this even if it's not realized until the afterlife. These things have a ripple effect. I know I will be more thankful for my wife after hearing all this. Maybe strangers reading about this will find a message that makes them a better person.
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
K. Kristofferson
()
Date: June 06, 2014 04:21PM
I wonder if the church elders reached out to him before or after the divorce. The Christian thing to do, you know...
A little late for that.
As the philosopher, Jeannie C. Riley, observed, "This is just a little Peyton Place, and you're all Harper Valley hypocrites."
A little late for that.
As the philosopher, Jeannie C. Riley, observed, "This is just a little Peyton Place, and you're all Harper Valley hypocrites."
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
WmJXF
()
Date: June 06, 2014 06:47PM
SmacksofGum Wrote:
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> > >
> > Also, none of this explains what the hell she
> was
> > doing on that trail in the middle of the night.
>
>
> "Here kitty, kitty! Come back to mama!"
>
> She was apparently very attached to her cats.
>
> If it was hypothermia, she would be (and probably
> is now) highly embarrassed.
It hasn't been cold enough to die from hypothermia in months so we can shelf that "theory".
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> > >
> > Also, none of this explains what the hell she
> was
> > doing on that trail in the middle of the night.
>
>
> "Here kitty, kitty! Come back to mama!"
>
> She was apparently very attached to her cats.
>
> If it was hypothermia, she would be (and probably
> is now) highly embarrassed.
It hasn't been cold enough to die from hypothermia in months so we can shelf that "theory".
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Publius
()
Date: June 06, 2014 08:25PM
> "Here kitty, kitty! Come back to mama!"
I'll admit that's pretty humorous, but no. She had pets but she wasn't a dumbass.
Besides, everyone in Vienna knows this area's full of foxes. Mangy ones at that.
I'll admit that's pretty humorous, but no. She had pets but she wasn't a dumbass.
Besides, everyone in Vienna knows this area's full of foxes. Mangy ones at that.
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
SmacksofGum
()
Date: June 06, 2014 10:45PM
>
> It hasn't been cold enough to die from hypothermia
> in months so we can shelf that "theory".
Not so fast....I thought so too, but I have seen multiple references online to hypothermia at mild temperatures. Check this out...
http://adventure.howstuffworks.com/survival/wilderness/how-to-avoid-hypothermia2.htm
Here's the first paragraph:
Although many cases of hypothermia arise from being outdoors in cold weather or water, it can happen at home as well. During the winter, stay aware of how cold your house is. People have become hypothermic in houses that were around 60 degrees Fahrenheit (15.5 degrees Celsius). Power outages in the winter can also send temperatures plunging, making it essential to wrap up and keep warm.
> It hasn't been cold enough to die from hypothermia
> in months so we can shelf that "theory".
Not so fast....I thought so too, but I have seen multiple references online to hypothermia at mild temperatures. Check this out...
http://adventure.howstuffworks.com/survival/wilderness/how-to-avoid-hypothermia2.htm
Here's the first paragraph:
Although many cases of hypothermia arise from being outdoors in cold weather or water, it can happen at home as well. During the winter, stay aware of how cold your house is. People have become hypothermic in houses that were around 60 degrees Fahrenheit (15.5 degrees Celsius). Power outages in the winter can also send temperatures plunging, making it essential to wrap up and keep warm.
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
SmacksofGum
()
Date: June 06, 2014 10:52PM
Publius Wrote:
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> > "Here kitty, kitty! Come back to mama!"
>
> I'll admit that's pretty humorous, but no. She had
> pets but she wasn't a dumbass.
>
> Besides, everyone in Vienna knows this area's full
> of foxes. Mangy ones at that.
I can buy that. But what else could it be?
If she showed no outward signs of trauma.
Even with an accidental overdose or poisoning,
why would she enter deep into the forest?
Unless, of course, she was hallucinating. I
guess someone would walk her there, but
wouldn't there be outward signs of trauma?
I just don't get it. Some of the "facts"
on this page must be wrong.
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> > "Here kitty, kitty! Come back to mama!"
>
> I'll admit that's pretty humorous, but no. She had
> pets but she wasn't a dumbass.
>
> Besides, everyone in Vienna knows this area's full
> of foxes. Mangy ones at that.
I can buy that. But what else could it be?
If she showed no outward signs of trauma.
Even with an accidental overdose or poisoning,
why would she enter deep into the forest?
Unless, of course, she was hallucinating. I
guess someone would walk her there, but
wouldn't there be outward signs of trauma?
I just don't get it. Some of the "facts"
on this page must be wrong.
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
PROBLYSOMETHING
()
Date: June 06, 2014 10:57PM
THINK, COMMUNITY OF FAIRFAX UNDERGROUND! THINK!
YOU CAN SOLVE THIS...THERE ARE MANY BRIGHT FOLKS
AMIDST THE FLAKES AND TROLLS. THINK! HOW DID
THIS HAPPEN?!!!
YOU CAN SOLVE THIS...THERE ARE MANY BRIGHT FOLKS
AMIDST THE FLAKES AND TROLLS. THINK! HOW DID
THIS HAPPEN?!!!
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Rev. Tretchard
()
Date: June 06, 2014 11:41PM
Ask Widow Jenkins down the lane. She's out at all hours gathering her bark and roots in the woods, some say she's tetched, but she sees everything...
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
PROBLYSOMETHING
()
Date: June 07, 2014 12:17PM
GOOD CITIZENS OF FAIRFAX UNDERGROUND! RISE UP
AMONG THE FLAKES AND TROLLS! SOLVE THIS MYSTERY
AND BRING PEACE TO THIS FAIR WOMAN AND ALL
ASSOCIATED WITH HER!!
AMONG THE FLAKES AND TROLLS! SOLVE THIS MYSTERY
AND BRING PEACE TO THIS FAIR WOMAN AND ALL
ASSOCIATED WITH HER!!
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Questions for Publius
()
Date: June 09, 2014 07:55AM
Questions for Publius Wrote:
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> Publius Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Just getting warmed up.
> >
> > - She had become very thin.
> > - She had a worrisome financial issue.
> > - She received bad news about a family member a
> > day or two prior to her death.
> > - She had too much wine the night she went
> > missing.
> >
> > At the same time:
> >
> > - She had taken up yoga and a gluten-free diet.
>
> > - She was recently promoted at work.
> > - She was devoted to her children.
> > - She had a superstitious fear of hell and
> > believed suicide meant damnation.
>
> What was the bad news she received about a family
> member?
I never did get an answer to my question. What was the bad news received about the relative?
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> Publius Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Just getting warmed up.
> >
> > - She had become very thin.
> > - She had a worrisome financial issue.
> > - She received bad news about a family member a
> > day or two prior to her death.
> > - She had too much wine the night she went
> > missing.
> >
> > At the same time:
> >
> > - She had taken up yoga and a gluten-free diet.
>
> > - She was recently promoted at work.
> > - She was devoted to her children.
> > - She had a superstitious fear of hell and
> > believed suicide meant damnation.
>
> What was the bad news she received about a family
> member?
I never did get an answer to my question. What was the bad news received about the relative?
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Publius
()
Date: June 09, 2014 09:08AM
Questions for Publius Wrote:
> I never did get an answer to my question. What was
> the bad news received about the relative?
I didn't answer because doing so would identify the relative.
> I never did get an answer to my question. What was
> the bad news received about the relative?
I didn't answer because doing so would identify the relative.
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Questions for Publius
()
Date: June 09, 2014 09:15AM
Publius Wrote:
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> Questions for Publius Wrote:
>
> > I never did get an answer to my question. What
> was
> > the bad news received about the relative?
>
> I didn't answer because doing so would identify
> the relative.
So leave out the relatives name and change their gender?
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> Questions for Publius Wrote:
>
> > I never did get an answer to my question. What
> was
> > the bad news received about the relative?
>
> I didn't answer because doing so would identify
> the relative.
So leave out the relatives name and change their gender?
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
The Aspergers Detective
()
Date: June 09, 2014 09:26AM
So leave out the relatives name and change their gender?
But then, we'd know that the name wasn't real, and that the gender of the person was the exact OPPOSITE of what was being stated.
But then, we'd know that the name wasn't real, and that the gender of the person was the exact OPPOSITE of what was being stated.
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
might be helpful
()
Date: June 09, 2014 09:48AM
I heard from a neighbor who has a relative for the medical examiners office that this is a suspected suicide. That's pending testing/confirmation at this time. ETA for results is about 5 to 6 weeks.
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Occam's Razor Burn
()
Date: June 09, 2014 10:06AM
Well, I'm going to the Vienna Inn anyway and keep my ears open. One of those hard-drinking mattress workers might blurt out something germane to this case.
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Dick Tracy
()
Date: June 09, 2014 02:32PM
Occam's Razor Burn Wrote:
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> Well, I'm going to the Vienna Inn anyway and keep
> my ears open. One of those hard-drinking mattress
> workers might blurt out something germane to this
> case.
What is the drink of choice there?
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> Well, I'm going to the Vienna Inn anyway and keep
> my ears open. One of those hard-drinking mattress
> workers might blurt out something germane to this
> case.
What is the drink of choice there?
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
On the Scene
()
Date: June 09, 2014 02:59PM
They usually drink boilermakers, dregs of wine, or cheap gin...I thought I'd fit in, wearing the grass-stained shirt I purchased from the fellow who mows my lawn, but when I inadvertently ordered my usual, a Cosmo, I realized my cover was blown.
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
ViennaPerson
()
Date: June 09, 2014 03:55PM
might be helpful Wrote:
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> I heard from a neighbor who has a relative for the
> medical examiners office that this is a suspected
> suicide. That's pending testing/confirmation at
> this time. ETA for results is about 5 to 6 weeks.
Im really sorry to hear they think that. Way too hard for me to believe
it with her fears about the afterlife. And then hiding in the forest
with little chance of being saved. Perhaps it was an accidental overdose of
some kind. I still feel so terrible for her and those associated with her.
I am just plain sad about the whole thing.
Thank you for the info from the ME office. Will the results be public? Or
is this just for the family to know?
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> I heard from a neighbor who has a relative for the
> medical examiners office that this is a suspected
> suicide. That's pending testing/confirmation at
> this time. ETA for results is about 5 to 6 weeks.
Im really sorry to hear they think that. Way too hard for me to believe
it with her fears about the afterlife. And then hiding in the forest
with little chance of being saved. Perhaps it was an accidental overdose of
some kind. I still feel so terrible for her and those associated with her.
I am just plain sad about the whole thing.
Thank you for the info from the ME office. Will the results be public? Or
is this just for the family to know?
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Vienna Vigilante
()
Date: June 09, 2014 04:50PM
Dern, but we already done lynched the ex-husband at Gallows Road!
You were the ones that said it couldn't be suicide, because "she had taken up yoga and a gluten-free diet, she was recently promoted at work, she was devoted to her children, she had a superstitious fear of hell and believed suicide meant damnation, etc, etc" so we committed Vienna frontier justice...this is sure embarrassin'!
You were the ones that said it couldn't be suicide, because "she had taken up yoga and a gluten-free diet, she was recently promoted at work, she was devoted to her children, she had a superstitious fear of hell and believed suicide meant damnation, etc, etc" so we committed Vienna frontier justice...this is sure embarrassin'!
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Publius
()
Date: June 09, 2014 05:19PM
Vienna Vigilante Wrote:
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> You were the ones that said it couldn't be
> suicide, because "she had taken up yoga and a
> gluten-free diet, she was recently promoted at
> work, she was devoted to her children, she had a
> superstitious fear of hell and believed suicide
> meant damnation, etc, etc"
Uh...I made those observations alongside an equal number of observations that might point *TO* suicide.
It'd be a good idea to make the results of the investigation public, once it's complete. If it was murder, then justice can be done. If it wasn't murder, then the ex can finish raising their children without people giving him the side-eye wherever he goes.
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> You were the ones that said it couldn't be
> suicide, because "she had taken up yoga and a
> gluten-free diet, she was recently promoted at
> work, she was devoted to her children, she had a
> superstitious fear of hell and believed suicide
> meant damnation, etc, etc"
Uh...I made those observations alongside an equal number of observations that might point *TO* suicide.
It'd be a good idea to make the results of the investigation public, once it's complete. If it was murder, then justice can be done. If it wasn't murder, then the ex can finish raising their children without people giving him the side-eye wherever he goes.
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
might be helpful
()
Date: June 10, 2014 07:39AM
ViennaPerson Wrote:
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> might be helpful Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I heard from a neighbor who has a relative for
> the
> > medical examiners office that this is a
> suspected
> > suicide. That's pending testing/confirmation at
> > this time. ETA for results is about 5 to 6
> weeks.
>
>
> Im really sorry to hear they think that. Way too
> hard for me to believe
> it with her fears about the afterlife. And then
> hiding in the forest
> with little chance of being saved. Perhaps it was
> an accidental overdose of
> some kind. I still feel so terrible for her and
> those associated with her.
> I am just plain sad about the whole thing.
>
> Thank you for the info from the ME office. Will
> the results be public? Or
> is this just for the family to know?
I agree with you, it seems much too suspicious to me. Because this case has been given little or no attention in the local news, I wouldn't expect to see the findings come out in any newspaper. It's all very sad. I don't know what to believe.
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> might be helpful Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I heard from a neighbor who has a relative for
> the
> > medical examiners office that this is a
> suspected
> > suicide. That's pending testing/confirmation at
> > this time. ETA for results is about 5 to 6
> weeks.
>
>
> Im really sorry to hear they think that. Way too
> hard for me to believe
> it with her fears about the afterlife. And then
> hiding in the forest
> with little chance of being saved. Perhaps it was
> an accidental overdose of
> some kind. I still feel so terrible for her and
> those associated with her.
> I am just plain sad about the whole thing.
>
> Thank you for the info from the ME office. Will
> the results be public? Or
> is this just for the family to know?
I agree with you, it seems much too suspicious to me. Because this case has been given little or no attention in the local news, I wouldn't expect to see the findings come out in any newspaper. It's all very sad. I don't know what to believe.
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
HIcks in the Forensics Lab
()
Date: June 10, 2014 11:56AM
I'm delighted that this "relative" who works for the state medical examiner's office" feels free to shoot off his/her mouth like this, giving their opinion before any test results come out.
This is a grounds-for-dismissal offense
This is a grounds-for-dismissal offense
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
oo00kay
()
Date: June 10, 2014 01:28PM
If they find it is not suicide or poison or accidental overdose or heart failure or blood clot or asthma or freaky hypothermia or aneurysm, what the heck could it be?!! I guess they can always drum up the umbrella for all else..."natural causes"...body just wore out?
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
ViennaPerson
()
Date: June 10, 2014 01:36PM
>
> It'd be a good idea to make the results of the
> investigation public, once it's complete. If it
> was murder, then justice can be done. If it wasn't
> murder, then the ex can finish raising their
> children without people giving him the side-eye
> wherever he goes.
He will likely still be wrongly blamed as that would be easier than
facing the truth.
I hope he can raise his children. Perhaps they will move away from
side-eyed elements. Probably needs a good attorney. Maybe a good soul
who has some dogs to walk!
> It'd be a good idea to make the results of the
> investigation public, once it's complete. If it
> was murder, then justice can be done. If it wasn't
> murder, then the ex can finish raising their
> children without people giving him the side-eye
> wherever he goes.
He will likely still be wrongly blamed as that would be easier than
facing the truth.
I hope he can raise his children. Perhaps they will move away from
side-eyed elements. Probably needs a good attorney. Maybe a good soul
who has some dogs to walk!
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
6LHNT
()
Date: June 10, 2014 01:57PM
HIcks in the Forensics Lab Wrote:
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> I'm delighted that this "relative" who works for
> the state medical examiner's office" feels free to
> shoot off his/her mouth like this, giving their
> opinion before any test results come out.
>
> This is a grounds-for-dismissal offense
I'm sure your client, "Mr. I can't stay out of trouble with the law and can't stand my wife so I faked her death" will like that.
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> I'm delighted that this "relative" who works for
> the state medical examiner's office" feels free to
> shoot off his/her mouth like this, giving their
> opinion before any test results come out.
>
> This is a grounds-for-dismissal offense
I'm sure your client, "Mr. I can't stay out of trouble with the law and can't stand my wife so I faked her death" will like that.
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
CSI Monster Island
()
Date: June 10, 2014 01:59PM
Was she found inside of a giant footprint? If those than there could be a Godzilla connection here. Godzilla's new movie WAS playing at the Tysons Theatre the same night. Hmmmmm...?
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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Fairfax Times
()
Date: June 10, 2014 03:13PM
Town of Vienna police investigating death
http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/article/20140606/NEWS/140609408/1064/public-safety-briefs&template=fairfaxTimes
Police said they were called to the 900 block of Circle Drive on May 15 for a call that a woman had not returned home. Police said the woman’s children said their mother had not been seen since the previous night. Police said the body of the missing woman was later found on a trail in some nearby woods. Police did not disclose the cause of death, but said that the case is being investigated.
http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/article/20140606/NEWS/140609408/1064/public-safety-briefs&template=fairfaxTimes
Police said they were called to the 900 block of Circle Drive on May 15 for a call that a woman had not returned home. Police said the woman’s children said their mother had not been seen since the previous night. Police said the body of the missing woman was later found on a trail in some nearby woods. Police did not disclose the cause of death, but said that the case is being investigated.
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Random Words
()
Date: June 10, 2014 03:19PM
I'm sure your client, "Mr. I can't stay out of trouble with the law and can't stand my wife so I faked her death" will like that.
LOL WUT?
LOL WUT?
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Clarified
()
Date: June 10, 2014 03:21PM
Random Words Wrote:
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> I'm sure your client, "Mr. I can't stay out of
> trouble with the law and can't stand my wife so I
> faked her death" will like that.
>
>
> LOL WUT?
Psssst...Her husband.
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> I'm sure your client, "Mr. I can't stay out of
> trouble with the law and can't stand my wife so I
> faked her death" will like that.
>
>
> LOL WUT?
Psssst...Her husband.
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Not Suicided
()
Date: June 10, 2014 06:54PM
But he's already been judged by the elders and hanged!
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
The Lawyer
()
Date: June 10, 2014 09:32PM
Random Words Wrote:
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> I'm sure your client, "Mr. I can't stay out of
> trouble with the law and can't stand my wife so I
> faked her death" will like that.
>
>
> LOL WUT?
Psssst...Her husband.
Busted, heh, yup, I'm the ex-husbands lawyer, and I've been lurking on this thread, hoping to find something to get my client off...LoLz
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> I'm sure your client, "Mr. I can't stay out of
> trouble with the law and can't stand my wife so I
> faked her death" will like that.
>
>
> LOL WUT?
Psssst...Her husband.
Busted, heh, yup, I'm the ex-husbands lawyer, and I've been lurking on this thread, hoping to find something to get my client off...LoLz
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Latent Prince
()
Date: June 11, 2014 11:58AM
So what has the Ladies Detective Bureau come up with?
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Fraidy Katz
()
Date: June 11, 2014 02:29PM
This story makes me afraid to attend the Vienna Farmer's Market
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Unnoun
()
Date: June 11, 2014 02:46PM
My wife thinks Im a little obsessed with this thread. I check
a couple timesa day as this is sucha mysterious incidant.
a couple timesa day as this is sucha mysterious incidant.
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Dangerous Streets?
()
Date: June 11, 2014 02:48PM
Vienna has become the town That Dreads Sundown!
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Assistance needed?
()
Date: June 11, 2014 03:55PM
I knows of a Belgian gent, 'e drinks, 'e's a bit light in the brogans, and 'e'll have the y-front down around the cabin boy's knees before you can say "Bob's yer uncle," but he is uncommon handy at solvin' mysterious cases like this.
I can use the Atlantic cable telegraph to summon him if ye likes...
I can use the Atlantic cable telegraph to summon him if ye likes...
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
SomeOldShmoe
()
Date: June 11, 2014 05:45PM
ye likes...but try to keep it serious, okay?
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Gary Cooper
()
Date: June 11, 2014 06:21PM
Dangerous Streets? Wrote:
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> Vienna has become the town That Dreads Sundown!
Vienna even dreads High Noon.
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> Vienna has become the town That Dreads Sundown!
Vienna even dreads High Noon.
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Publius
()
Date: June 11, 2014 08:00PM
Story is that the Vienna P.D. immediately chalked it up as a suicide. (I'd heard that on the day of her funeral.)
The toxicology report might eventually confirm as much, although the autopsy revealed there was very little in her stomach...if that means anything.
I hope this hasn't stopped the police from doing their due diligence though. Seems important to the living either way.
The toxicology report might eventually confirm as much, although the autopsy revealed there was very little in her stomach...if that means anything.
I hope this hasn't stopped the police from doing their due diligence though. Seems important to the living either way.
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Marcus Welby
()
Date: June 12, 2014 12:38AM
Wow, so you have a hotline to the state forensic examiner...you probably get the info before the police do...I guess dead people don't get their own version of HPPA protection, huh?
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
The Cockney Detective
()
Date: June 12, 2014 12:43AM
try to keep it serious, okay?
Say no more, governor! Mum's the word, put me'fore the judge, and I won't grass...
Say no more, governor! Mum's the word, put me'fore the judge, and I won't grass...
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Kolchak the Fairfax Files
()
Date: June 12, 2014 03:47PM
This is starting to sound more and more like a Vampire at work.
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
MT9my
()
Date: June 13, 2014 10:18AM
I can't imagine how that family must feel or the neighbors. There's this "cloud" hanging over all of them.
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
ForeverVienna
()
Date: June 13, 2014 11:28AM
MT9my Wrote:
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> I can't imagine how that family must feel or the
> neighbors. There's this "cloud" hanging over all
> of them.
They know a whole lot more than we do. The backstory, etc.
Hopefully, they know enough that they can begin the healing process.
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> I can't imagine how that family must feel or the
> neighbors. There's this "cloud" hanging over all
> of them.
They know a whole lot more than we do. The backstory, etc.
Hopefully, they know enough that they can begin the healing process.
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
ghost sighting
()
Date: June 13, 2014 12:46PM
One of my friends said that a jogger on that same path saw a woman fitting this descripion standing on the path. When she got closer, she noticed that she could see right through the woman standing there. Could it be she's now haunting that area?
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Third Time wasn't the charm
()
Date: June 13, 2014 06:36PM
Nah, that wasn't a ghost...just a preening yuppie Vienna woman. You can easily see through most Fairfax women...
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
And then what?
()
Date: June 14, 2014 01:37PM
ghost sighting Wrote:
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> When she got closer, she noticed that
> she could see right through the woman standing
> there.
So what'd the jogger do? Run through her?
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> When she got closer, she noticed that
> she could see right through the woman standing
> there.
So what'd the jogger do? Run through her?
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Just Looking
()
Date: June 14, 2014 10:34PM
So, seems like the ex-husband suffered a loss of a family member and was almost run over by a drunk driver. Add that to the divorce and I could see that he was not having a very good year. This family has definitely had some serious shit go down in the past year or so and I cannot imagine the stress/hurt/loss the kids are experiencing. Hopefully the extended family that has come to their aid is equipped to deal with all that has happened.
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Call for Meade!
()
Date: June 15, 2014 09:25AM
Someone should call Meade, the Eunuch Detective. Although he has the appearance of an obese incredibly untalented "singer," he actually is a genius at solving mysterious deaths, in addition to being a 7th Level White Crane Karate Master.
His usual method is to come into town, and while "performing" at free gigs at coffee shops, he's gathering evidence. Given the fact that no one actually attends his performances, he is able to slip unnoticed from the stage and investigate leads.
With his adenoidal voice that grates on a suspect's nerves, in addition to the cold, clammy touch of his pudgy fingers, even the toughest criminal will break within minutes.
Meade is available, and actually has nothing going on for the next few weeks...a free place to stay and all he can eat and drink (he prefers really sweet tea)...and he'll be in Vienna within the hour.
His usual method is to come into town, and while "performing" at free gigs at coffee shops, he's gathering evidence. Given the fact that no one actually attends his performances, he is able to slip unnoticed from the stage and investigate leads.
With his adenoidal voice that grates on a suspect's nerves, in addition to the cold, clammy touch of his pudgy fingers, even the toughest criminal will break within minutes.
Meade is available, and actually has nothing going on for the next few weeks...a free place to stay and all he can eat and drink (he prefers really sweet tea)...and he'll be in Vienna within the hour.
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Midgo McGallo
()
Date: June 15, 2014 12:38PM
Call for Meade! Wrote:
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> Someone should call Meade, the Eunuch Detective.
> Although he has the appearance of an obese
> incredibly untalented "singer," he actually is a
> genius at solving mysterious deaths, in addition
> to being a 7th Level White Crane Karate Master.
>
> His usual method is to come into town, and while
> "performing" at free gigs at coffee shops, he's
> gathering evidence. Given the fact that no one
> actually attends his performances, he is able to
> slip unnoticed from the stage and investigate
> leads.
>
> With his adenoidal voice that grates on a
> suspect's nerves, in addition to the cold, clammy
> touch of his pudgy fingers, even the toughest
> criminal will break within minutes.
>
> Meade is available, and actually has nothing going
> on for the next few weeks...a free place to stay
> and all he can eat and drink (he prefers really
> sweet tea)...and he'll be in Vienna within the
> hour.
Will he bringing friends from Midgetville in short order?
There are plenty of small details that need investigatin'.
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> Someone should call Meade, the Eunuch Detective.
> Although he has the appearance of an obese
> incredibly untalented "singer," he actually is a
> genius at solving mysterious deaths, in addition
> to being a 7th Level White Crane Karate Master.
>
> His usual method is to come into town, and while
> "performing" at free gigs at coffee shops, he's
> gathering evidence. Given the fact that no one
> actually attends his performances, he is able to
> slip unnoticed from the stage and investigate
> leads.
>
> With his adenoidal voice that grates on a
> suspect's nerves, in addition to the cold, clammy
> touch of his pudgy fingers, even the toughest
> criminal will break within minutes.
>
> Meade is available, and actually has nothing going
> on for the next few weeks...a free place to stay
> and all he can eat and drink (he prefers really
> sweet tea)...and he'll be in Vienna within the
> hour.
Will he bringing friends from Midgetville in short order?
There are plenty of small details that need investigatin'.
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
It takes a village
()
Date: June 15, 2014 04:07PM
Call for Meade! Wrote:
> With his adenoidal voice that grates on a
> suspect's nerves, in addition to the cold, clammy
> touch of his pudgy fingers, even the toughest
> criminal will break within minutes.
But remember the trouble that got him ran out of Loudon County.
Instead of apprehending the suspects and turning them over to the proper authorities, Meade would just suck them off.
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> With his adenoidal voice that grates on a
> suspect's nerves, in addition to the cold, clammy
> touch of his pudgy fingers, even the toughest
> criminal will break within minutes.
But remember the trouble that got him ran out of Loudon County.
Instead of apprehending the suspects and turning them over to the proper authorities, Meade would just suck them off.
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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
straight from the Whore's mouth
()
Date: June 15, 2014 10:54PM
It takes a village Wrote:
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> Instead of apprehending the suspects and turning
> them over to the proper authorities, Meade would
> just suck them off.
Meade says "Criminal Jizm tastes the best"
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> Instead of apprehending the suspects and turning
> them over to the proper authorities, Meade would
> just suck them off.
Meade says "Criminal Jizm tastes the best"
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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
baLLahoo
()
Date: June 16, 2014 08:48AM
You add nothing.
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Andanotherthing
()
Date: June 16, 2014 09:35AM
No way, absolutely no way that this was a suicide. I am only a friend of a friend who knew her well and I personally met this lady a few times. Zero chance she would have ever let her kids be left without her. She was very hands on and involved and protective and devoted. Totally out of character for her to leave and not have told her kids even if she was mad about something. The kind of lady who would of made arrangements for her kidsif she needed to be away for a time.
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
WeWanttheTruth
()
Date: June 16, 2014 11:55AM
I agree. If it was not "natural causes", it had to have been an accidental overdose or poisoning. I don't see any other way.
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
skaterboarder
()
Date: June 16, 2014 03:28PM
was she using medical weed. may be bad batch?
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
On Stakeout
()
Date: June 16, 2014 10:44PM
Hey, I'm still undercover at the Vienna Inn...I'm 15 kinds of shitfaced after all the boilermakers I've been drinking with my mattress factory buddies. All my new friends are whispering something about a Vienna yuppie getting his salad tossed.
I'd prefer a few chili dogs, but a tossed salad would be OK, too.
Reporting back soon...my buddies want me to meet them in the parking lot, by the dumpster...
I'd prefer a few chili dogs, but a tossed salad would be OK, too.
Reporting back soon...my buddies want me to meet them in the parking lot, by the dumpster...
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
xVD4X
()
Date: June 17, 2014 06:59AM
Andanotherthing Wrote:
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> No way, absolutely no way that this was a suicide.
> I am only a friend of a friend who knew her well
> and I personally met this lady a few times. Zero
> chance she would have ever let her kids be left
> without her. She was very hands on and involved
> and protective and devoted. Totally out of
> character for her to leave and not have told her
> kids even if she was mad about something. The kind
> of lady who would of made arrangements for her
> kidsif she needed to be away for a time.
I'm thinking the same way, very doubtful she would commit suicide with kids involved and dependent on her. No way in Hell!
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> No way, absolutely no way that this was a suicide.
> I am only a friend of a friend who knew her well
> and I personally met this lady a few times. Zero
> chance she would have ever let her kids be left
> without her. She was very hands on and involved
> and protective and devoted. Totally out of
> character for her to leave and not have told her
> kids even if she was mad about something. The kind
> of lady who would of made arrangements for her
> kidsif she needed to be away for a time.
I'm thinking the same way, very doubtful she would commit suicide with kids involved and dependent on her. No way in Hell!
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
brapture
()
Date: June 17, 2014 03:39PM
On Stakeout Wrote:
> I'd prefer a few chili dogs, but a tossed salad
> would be OK, too.
>
Here is your chili dog Meade...
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> I'd prefer a few chili dogs, but a tossed salad
> would be OK, too.
>
Here is your chili dog Meade...
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Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
cJcLJ
()
Date: June 18, 2014 07:01AM
Just Looking Wrote:
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> So, seems like the ex-husband suffered a loss of a
> family member and was almost run over by a drunk
> driver. Add that to the divorce and I could see
> that he was not having a very good year. This
> family has definitely had some serious shit go
> down in the past year or so and I cannot imagine
> the stress/hurt/loss the kids are experiencing.
> Hopefully the extended family that has come to
> their aid is equipped to deal with all that has
> happened.
This makes me think that more and more the husband had something to do with it. Maybe he even pressured or threatened her to do so or he would make her life a living hell. Sure wish the police would release more information on this case. Neighbors and the community are worried, and fewer are going out on the paths.
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> So, seems like the ex-husband suffered a loss of a
> family member and was almost run over by a drunk
> driver. Add that to the divorce and I could see
> that he was not having a very good year. This
> family has definitely had some serious shit go
> down in the past year or so and I cannot imagine
> the stress/hurt/loss the kids are experiencing.
> Hopefully the extended family that has come to
> their aid is equipped to deal with all that has
> happened.
This makes me think that more and more the husband had something to do with it. Maybe he even pressured or threatened her to do so or he would make her life a living hell. Sure wish the police would release more information on this case. Neighbors and the community are worried, and fewer are going out on the paths.
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
I'm skart!
()
Date: June 18, 2014 09:41AM
Neighbors and the community are worried, and fewer are going out on the paths.
Right...a serial killer is on the loose in Vienna. Better throw a few canisters of tear gas in the shopping cart the next time you waddle into Whole Foods
Pussies.
Right...a serial killer is on the loose in Vienna. Better throw a few canisters of tear gas in the shopping cart the next time you waddle into Whole Foods
Pussies.
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Circle Drive neighbor
()
Date: June 18, 2014 10:14AM
This is terrifying and the Vienna police aren't giving us any information. Has anyone contacted the mayor's office?
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Whatthehey!
()
Date: June 18, 2014 03:49PM
>
> This makes me think that more and more the husband
> had something to do with it. Maybe he even
> pressured or threatened her to do so or he would
> make her life a living hell. Sure wish the police
> would release more information on this case.
> Neighbors and the community are worried, and fewer
> are going out on the paths.
Do you know the husband? I use to. He was a very nice, quiet fellow. Not religious or at least religious to the degree of the wife. Hard working at jobs that were, perhaps, not as economically appreciated. Even if the wife hounded/criticized him mercilessly for money to the point that he snapped, I still don't think he was capable. I can imagine a phone fight where she made threats and then went ahead with something. But even then, she would have been crazy angry out of her mind. No way, she did anything like that with anything resembling a clear head IMHO. Was she out of her mind? Someone mentioned drinking wine. Maybe she combined with antidepressants or something else to go into a "crazy" zone that would make that scenario a possibility. But I find that really hard to believe let alone accept.
Someone else said here that there was no external trauma to her. So, I greatly limits the ways the husband could have been directly involved. I find the possibilities left to be outlandish...though possible. Giving her an overdose of something like heroin (but then wouldn't that be a sign of external trauma?) or poisoning with arsenic in the food (black widow in reverse).
It's still super tragic whatever the reason. I just hope it was an innocent mistake that excludes any safety fears for the community and blows away the dark clouds over the husband.
> This makes me think that more and more the husband
> had something to do with it. Maybe he even
> pressured or threatened her to do so or he would
> make her life a living hell. Sure wish the police
> would release more information on this case.
> Neighbors and the community are worried, and fewer
> are going out on the paths.
Do you know the husband? I use to. He was a very nice, quiet fellow. Not religious or at least religious to the degree of the wife. Hard working at jobs that were, perhaps, not as economically appreciated. Even if the wife hounded/criticized him mercilessly for money to the point that he snapped, I still don't think he was capable. I can imagine a phone fight where she made threats and then went ahead with something. But even then, she would have been crazy angry out of her mind. No way, she did anything like that with anything resembling a clear head IMHO. Was she out of her mind? Someone mentioned drinking wine. Maybe she combined with antidepressants or something else to go into a "crazy" zone that would make that scenario a possibility. But I find that really hard to believe let alone accept.
Someone else said here that there was no external trauma to her. So, I greatly limits the ways the husband could have been directly involved. I find the possibilities left to be outlandish...though possible. Giving her an overdose of something like heroin (but then wouldn't that be a sign of external trauma?) or poisoning with arsenic in the food (black widow in reverse).
It's still super tragic whatever the reason. I just hope it was an innocent mistake that excludes any safety fears for the community and blows away the dark clouds over the husband.
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
I live close to Circle Drive
()
Date: June 18, 2014 06:00PM
Someone else said here that there was no external trauma to her. So, I greatly limits the ways the husband could have been directly involved. I find the possibilities left to be outlandish...though possible. Giving her an overdose of something like heroin (but then wouldn't that be a sign of external trauma?) or poisoning with arsenic in the food (black widow in reverse).
That's it! The wife received a "surprise gift" of a new mattress just before she died. Is it possible...outlandish, I know, but bear with me...that the mattress was coated with some sort of delayed-action poison?
I'd like to tell the Vienna Chief of Police about my theory, but I'm afraid he would think I was just a scairdy-cat who didn't know what I was talking about.
That's it! The wife received a "surprise gift" of a new mattress just before she died. Is it possible...outlandish, I know, but bear with me...that the mattress was coated with some sort of delayed-action poison?
I'd like to tell the Vienna Chief of Police about my theory, but I'm afraid he would think I was just a scairdy-cat who didn't know what I was talking about.
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Not Funny business
()
Date: June 18, 2014 06:57PM
I don't know if you're making a joke about a poisoned mattress or what, but this is serious. As a Vienna mom with a great family who lives near Circle Drive, I'm worried about even letting my kids out of my sight until this murder is solved.
And then, I saw in the news that a convicted pedophile was taking photos of children in a Vienna park. We didn't buy a house in this nice town to have to worry about this.
And then, I saw in the news that a convicted pedophile was taking photos of children in a Vienna park. We didn't buy a house in this nice town to have to worry about this.
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Actually...
()
Date: June 18, 2014 07:54PM
You hysterical goober cow. No one except for a few Vienna goober neighbors have said this was a murder, and that convicted pedophile was just some old guy taking a few photographs of kids, goober parents like you panicked, called 911, and he was checked out and cleared by the police.
You stupid goobers need to stop being goobers.
Like that's going to happen.
You stupid goobers need to stop being goobers.
Like that's going to happen.
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Just Looking
()
Date: June 18, 2014 08:36PM
Fuck it. Here are the articles...
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/dailyfreeman/obituary.aspx?pid=164847872
http://www.thestar.com/news/world/2013/06/03/cyclists_joggers_scramble_for_safety_after_suspected_drunk_driver_drives_for_kilometres_on_bike_trail.html
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/dailyfreeman/obituary.aspx?pid=164847872
http://www.thestar.com/news/world/2013/06/03/cyclists_joggers_scramble_for_safety_after_suspected_drunk_driver_drives_for_kilometres_on_bike_trail.html
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
CluesBlues
()
Date: June 18, 2014 09:51PM
Just Looking Wrote:
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> Fuck it. Here are the articles...
>
> http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/dailyfreeman/obit
> uary.aspx?pid=164847872
>
> http://www.thestar.com/news/world/2013/06/03/cycli
> sts_joggers_scramble_for_safety_after_suspected_dr
> unk_driver_drives_for_kilometres_on_bike_trail.htm
> l
Wow! Jeff had a horrible 2013. Okay, so stress was up.
How is this connected to his ex-wife? Unless Ms. Chopra was his ex!!
What are you getting at....a bizarre love triangle?!!
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> Fuck it. Here are the articles...
>
> http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/dailyfreeman/obit
> uary.aspx?pid=164847872
>
> http://www.thestar.com/news/world/2013/06/03/cycli
> sts_joggers_scramble_for_safety_after_suspected_dr
> unk_driver_drives_for_kilometres_on_bike_trail.htm
> l
Wow! Jeff had a horrible 2013. Okay, so stress was up.
How is this connected to his ex-wife? Unless Ms. Chopra was his ex!!
What are you getting at....a bizarre love triangle?!!
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Mother of Two
()
Date: June 19, 2014 08:51AM
Suspicious. Lord, I hope Vienna police have help in this investigation.
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Hmmm...
()
Date: June 19, 2014 09:03AM
skaterboarder Wrote:
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> was she using medical weed. may be bad batch?
I think you've not been wearing your helmet often enough.
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> was she using medical weed. may be bad batch?
I think you've not been wearing your helmet often enough.
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Revzilla
()
Date: June 19, 2014 09:10AM
skaterboarder Wrote:
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> was she using medical weed. may be bad batch?
I think you've not been wearing your helmet often enough.
You wait all this time and that was the best retort you could come up with?
Are you the lead Vienna investigator on this case?
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> was she using medical weed. may be bad batch?
I think you've not been wearing your helmet often enough.
You wait all this time and that was the best retort you could come up with?
Are you the lead Vienna investigator on this case?
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Down the Streeter
()
Date: June 19, 2014 09:23AM
cJcLJ Wrote:
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> Neighbors and the community are worried, and fewer
> are going out on the paths.
I live three blocks from Circle Drive. While people are saddened for this family, there is no community panic. "The woods" meanwhile are a small stand of trees, not some deep, dark mystery land, and the only reason to be on "the paths" would be to go over to the ball fields and playgrounds behind Cunningham Park ES. Kids sometimes cut through the woods to get to the Vienna Woods pool. Doubtful the deceased was hiking over for a solitary late night swim.
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> Neighbors and the community are worried, and fewer
> are going out on the paths.
I live three blocks from Circle Drive. While people are saddened for this family, there is no community panic. "The woods" meanwhile are a small stand of trees, not some deep, dark mystery land, and the only reason to be on "the paths" would be to go over to the ball fields and playgrounds behind Cunningham Park ES. Kids sometimes cut through the woods to get to the Vienna Woods pool. Doubtful the deceased was hiking over for a solitary late night swim.
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
The Finch Family
()
Date: June 19, 2014 09:26AM
Scout and I once saw Boo Radley in those woods. I wasn't scared. It was like he was just looking out for us.
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Down the Streeter
()
Date: June 19, 2014 09:30AM
Not Funny business Wrote:
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> I don't know if you're making a joke about a
> poisoned mattress or what, but this is serious.
> As a Vienna mom with a great family who lives near
> Circle Drive, I'm worried about even letting my
> kids out of my sight until this murder is solved.
>
> And then, I saw in the news that a convicted
> pedophile was taking photos of children in a
> Vienna park. We didn't buy a house in this nice
> town to have to worry about this.
Paranoid much?
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> I don't know if you're making a joke about a
> poisoned mattress or what, but this is serious.
> As a Vienna mom with a great family who lives near
> Circle Drive, I'm worried about even letting my
> kids out of my sight until this murder is solved.
>
> And then, I saw in the news that a convicted
> pedophile was taking photos of children in a
> Vienna park. We didn't buy a house in this nice
> town to have to worry about this.
Paranoid much?
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Hmmm...
()
Date: June 19, 2014 09:42AM
Revzilla Wrote:
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> You wait all this time and that was the best
> retort you could come up with?
You're a critic? Seek help. "All this time" was two days. The thread has been open for 35 days. Her having been struck by space debris is more likely to explain this death than that she was felled by a "bad batch" of medical marijuana. Even the poisoned mattress theory might be better than that. Some of you should just go back to the Malaysian airliner threads.
> Are you the lead Vienna investigator on this case?
No. Are you? Do you suspect that this individual has posted ANYTHING in this thread? Moron.
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> You wait all this time and that was the best
> retort you could come up with?
You're a critic? Seek help. "All this time" was two days. The thread has been open for 35 days. Her having been struck by space debris is more likely to explain this death than that she was felled by a "bad batch" of medical marijuana. Even the poisoned mattress theory might be better than that. Some of you should just go back to the Malaysian airliner threads.
> Are you the lead Vienna investigator on this case?
No. Are you? Do you suspect that this individual has posted ANYTHING in this thread? Moron.
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Sane person
()
Date: June 19, 2014 09:49AM
Actually... Wrote:
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> You hysterical goober cow. No one except for a
> few Vienna goober neighbors have said this was a
> murder, and that convicted pedophile was just some
> old guy taking a few photographs of kids, goober
> parents like you panicked, called 911, and he was
> checked out and cleared by the police. You stupid
> goobers need to stop being goobers. Like that's
> going to happen.
Thanks for the sanity. Chicken Little Syndrome is everywhere these days and it seems to become more virulent in each new victim. I certainly hope CDC is working on this. I know I'm keeping my kids locked in a closet until a cure is found.
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> You hysterical goober cow. No one except for a
> few Vienna goober neighbors have said this was a
> murder, and that convicted pedophile was just some
> old guy taking a few photographs of kids, goober
> parents like you panicked, called 911, and he was
> checked out and cleared by the police. You stupid
> goobers need to stop being goobers. Like that's
> going to happen.
Thanks for the sanity. Chicken Little Syndrome is everywhere these days and it seems to become more virulent in each new victim. I certainly hope CDC is working on this. I know I'm keeping my kids locked in a closet until a cure is found.
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Brilliant Insight
()
Date: June 19, 2014 09:52AM
You're a critic? Seek help. "All this time" was two days. The thread has been open for 35 days. Her having been struck by space debris is more likely to explain this death than that she was felled by a "bad batch" of medical marijuana. Even the poisoned mattress theory might be better than that. Some of you should just go back to the Malaysian airliner threads.
> Are you the lead Vienna investigator on this case?
No. Are you? Do you suspect that this individual has posted ANYTHING in this thread? Moron.
Say, are you the famous Aspergers Detective? Counting the exact number of days that this thread has been open...then asking if the poster was himself a police investigator...just your style.
And space debris? Only an Aspergers savant would come up with that!
A frozen lump of sewage from an airliner? It would ultimately thaw, and investigators would think nothing of this fecal missile, simply making a note to have lengthy Vienna Police stake-outs on this site to thwart Clean-up-after-your-dog scofflaws.
Hmmm, indeed, you are a genius!
> Are you the lead Vienna investigator on this case?
No. Are you? Do you suspect that this individual has posted ANYTHING in this thread? Moron.
Say, are you the famous Aspergers Detective? Counting the exact number of days that this thread has been open...then asking if the poster was himself a police investigator...just your style.
And space debris? Only an Aspergers savant would come up with that!
A frozen lump of sewage from an airliner? It would ultimately thaw, and investigators would think nothing of this fecal missile, simply making a note to have lengthy Vienna Police stake-outs on this site to thwart Clean-up-after-your-dog scofflaws.
Hmmm, indeed, you are a genius!
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
SOL Particulate
()
Date: June 19, 2014 01:50PM
"I think you've not been wearing your helmet often enough."
Ha, that's a real knee slapper!
Your writing style reminds me of Oscar Wilde.
.
.
.
.
.
GAY!
Ha, that's a real knee slapper!
Your writing style reminds me of Oscar Wilde.
.
.
.
.
.
GAY!
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
get
()
Date: June 19, 2014 02:23PM
Quite horsing around and get back to solving this thing!
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Cafe Amouri Regular
()
Date: June 19, 2014 03:51PM
I'm torn between the poisoned mattress and the dump from outer space...
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
BackOFF
()
Date: June 19, 2014 04:16PM
ARRGGHHHHH....you guys are ridiculous. Get serious.
What is a reasonable reason for explaining her
demise?
What is a reasonable reason for explaining her
demise?
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Rosebud
()
Date: June 19, 2014 04:54PM
Meanwhile, in the vast McMansion in Vienna overlooking the Satanic Mattress Mills, with their smokestacks bellowing, a man looks out his Palladian window at the small town below. Idly tapping his cigar ash into a cut-crystal ashtray, he looks at another, smaller man.
"Our plan is working well, Benson," fear and dissension is spreading. Soon this sleepy little hamlet will belong to us. Keep up the pressure."
"Yes sir, and might I say, you are quite a genius."
"Our plan is working well, Benson," fear and dissension is spreading. Soon this sleepy little hamlet will belong to us. Keep up the pressure."
"Yes sir, and might I say, you are quite a genius."
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
strunk
()
Date: June 19, 2014 05:01PM
Rosebud Wrote:
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> Meanwhile, in the vast McMansion in Vienna
> overlooking the Satanic Mattress Mills, with their
> smokestacks bellowing, a man looks out his
> Palladian window at the small town below. Idly
> tapping his cigar ash into a cut-crystal ashtray,
> he looks at another, smaller man.
>
> "Our plan is working well, Benson," fear and
> dissension is spreading. Soon this sleepy little
> hamlet will belong to us. Keep up the pressure."
>
> "Yes sir, and might I say, you are quite a
> genius."
Billowing. You are bellowing; smokestacks are billowing. Otherwise well played.
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> Meanwhile, in the vast McMansion in Vienna
> overlooking the Satanic Mattress Mills, with their
> smokestacks bellowing, a man looks out his
> Palladian window at the small town below. Idly
> tapping his cigar ash into a cut-crystal ashtray,
> he looks at another, smaller man.
>
> "Our plan is working well, Benson," fear and
> dissension is spreading. Soon this sleepy little
> hamlet will belong to us. Keep up the pressure."
>
> "Yes sir, and might I say, you are quite a
> genius."
Billowing. You are bellowing; smokestacks are billowing. Otherwise well played.
Re: Circle Drive - Vienna
Posted by:
Rosebud II
()
Date: June 19, 2014 06:39PM
Damn, furnaces bellow and smokestacks billow...
My bad...
My bad...