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C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Posted by: DirtMcGirt ()
Date: January 26, 2009 09:48AM

What are they doing? I'm talking about the snow plows that park on 267 right by the Tyson's exit every time they hear a rumor it's going to snow. It's flurrying out right now and they're going to sand the roads? Good grief. You guys have it good here or something, in NY they don't come out until there is at least 3" on the ground.

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Posted by: suburbanite ()
Date: January 26, 2009 10:24AM

Were you here last year when an storm came through that hadn't been expected and closed the mixing bowl and locked people on the highway in gridlock for hours?

The plows are out so everyone that is too stupid to stay home in snow don't get stuck and clog the roads. Since most people haven't got a clue how to drive even in clear weather. They may not actually plow anything, in case you haven't noticed, they also drop chemicals to prevent the roads and bridges from freezing.

THe forecast includes some kind of precip every day this week so get used to the plows. THey'll be here all week, I'm sure.

If they weren't then you'd be bitching about why weren't they out when people started wrecking and sliding all over the place.

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Date: January 26, 2009 10:26AM

DirtMcGirt Wrote:
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> What are they doing? I'm talking about the snow
> plows that park on 267 right by the Tyson's exit
> every time they hear a rumor it's going to snow.
> It's flurrying out right now and they're going to
> sand the roads? Good grief. You guys have it good
> here or something, in NY they don't come out until
> there is at least 3" on the ground.


I've been in NY City when they have failed to plow. It is a fucking fiasco.

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Posted by: Jester ()
Date: January 26, 2009 11:01AM

Yup because the county got their ass reamed out last year after the mixing bowl fiasco.

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Posted by: pgens ()
Date: January 26, 2009 11:33AM

DirtMcGirt Wrote:
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> Good grief. You guys have it good
> here or something, in NY they don't come out until
> there is at least 3" on the ground.

You must be new here.

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Posted by: jimW ()
Date: January 26, 2009 11:51AM

my favorite was last week when two days before the inauguration they started spraying down de-icer (expensive, and non damaging to cars, roads) even though there was no snow in the forecast. VDOT/FFXCO both said they would regardless of the forecast.

We treat our [partying] visitors well. Screw the people that actually live, work, and pay taxes here.

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Posted by: wake up ()
Date: January 26, 2009 12:02PM

Have you been living under a rock? We are under a Winter Storm Watch (probably going to be updated to a warning in a couple hours). We are going to get a couple inches of snow and FREEZING RAIN & SLEET.

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Posted by: Suburbanite ()
Date: January 26, 2009 12:53PM

JimW,

Last week they were out because some of the forecast models showed sleet and freezing rain and chances for snow. I actually did see a few flurries, but it was all part of the security for the inauguration.

They closed inbound 66 and 395 to regular traffic as well, something that has NEVER happened before.

As for what the plows are costing us, they never even came close to budget last year it was so dry, and it's already the end of January and they haven't really used much. Sure, it'd be great if they didn't need it all, but then you'd be bitching when you slid on a ramp while coming home from work.

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Posted by: Junes ()
Date: January 26, 2009 01:10PM

Are you talking about actual plowing or salting/sanding?

Several salt/sand truck have plows attached (independents). It's easier to leave the plow attached.

It is absolutely necessary to salt and sand - especially when the snow melts and freezes with traffic, or turns to sleet overnight.

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Posted by: Junes ()
Date: January 26, 2009 01:27PM

jimW Wrote:
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>
> We treat our visitors well. Screw the people that
> actually live, work, and pay taxes here.

Those visitors dumped hundreds of thousands of dollars into Northern VA's economy in less than a week. The least we can do is make sure they get to and from the festivities safely.

What happened in DC isn't our fault!

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Posted by: jimW ()
Date: January 26, 2009 01:38PM

Suburbanite Wrote:
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> JimW,
>
> Last week they were out because some of the
> forecast models showed sleet and freezing rain and
> chances for snow. I actually did see a few
> flurries, but it was all part of the security for
> the inauguration.
>
> They closed inbound 66 and 395 to regular traffic
> as well, something that has NEVER happened
> before.
>
> As for what the plows are costing us, they never
> even came close to budget last year it was so dry,
> and it's already the end of January and they
> haven't really used much. Sure, it'd be great if
> they didn't need it all, but then you'd be
> bitching when you slid on a ramp while coming home
> from work.

I'm aware of what the GFS was showing, (a slight chance of snow/sleet) 36 hours before the inauguration it tracked ENE.

Correction: I would not be bitching if i slid on a ramp. This is for another thread, but when I am behind the wheel, I am fully responsible for what happens. Granted unless someone else plows into me, then they are responsible. Even then, I accepted that risk by turning the key.

i was only complaining about the special treatment (well intended) after putting up with years of salt and sand damage to my vehicles.

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: January 26, 2009 03:24PM

they didnt deploy the plows in 1996, now that was a clusterfuck.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blizzard_of_1996#Washington_D.C._and_Baltimore


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Posted by: Da ()
Date: January 26, 2009 03:40PM

Has anyone been to the Herndon/Monroe Park and Ride/Bus Depot lately? Driving through, one would think they were in Tuzla. The VDOT salt crews must have gathered there for Stolis and just left the spreaders running while they were taking shots.

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: January 26, 2009 03:43PM

I hope we get 150 feet of snow, then three solid days of freezing rain. I hope families have to eat each other to survive. I pray for a return to the Ice Age in the DC/NOVA area, with nary a loaf of bread, gallon of milk, or roll of toilet paper to be found anywhere.

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Posted by: Fife ()
Date: January 26, 2009 03:44PM

Suburbanite Wrote:
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> JimW,
>
> Last week they were out because some of the
> forecast models showed sleet and freezing rain and
> chances for snow. I actually did see a few
> flurries, but it was all part of the security for
> the inauguration.
>
> They closed inbound 66 and 395 to regular traffic
> as well, something that has NEVER happened
> before.
>
> As for what the plows are costing us, they never
> even came close to budget last year it was so dry,
> and it's already the end of January and they
> haven't really used much. Sure, it'd be great if
> they didn't need it all, but then you'd be
> bitching when you slid on a ramp while coming home
> from work.

Jeeez people were your born yesterday under a rock? Just in case the terrorists came down 66 they had the trucks parked and ready to spray water all over the highway causing the terrorists to go slippy-slidy into a ditch (if a good one was still available)

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: January 26, 2009 03:47PM

MrMephisto Wrote:
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> I hope we get 150 feet of snow, then three solid
> days of freezing rain. I hope families have to
> eat each other to survive. I pray for a return to
> the Ice Age in the DC/NOVA area, with nary a loaf
> of bread, gallon of milk, or roll of toilet paper
> to be found anywhere.


wow... have you been reading my mind?

wait, holy shit! why are you reading my mind?! get out of my head!!!

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"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Posted by: Snowgeek ()
Date: January 26, 2009 03:48PM

MrMephisto Wrote:
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> I hope we get 150 feet of snow, then three solid
> days of freezing rain. I hope families have to
> eat each other to survive. I pray for a return to
> the Ice Age in the DC/NOVA area, with nary a loaf
> of bread, gallon of milk, or roll of toilet paper
> to be found anywhere.

Yes, then we can all sit inside and play our Fallout 3 games.

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: January 26, 2009 03:49PM

Fife Wrote:
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> Jeeez people were your born yesterday under a
> rock? Just in case the terrorists came down 66
> they had the trucks parked and ready to spray
> water all over the highway causing the terrorists
> to go slippy-slidy into a ditch (if a good one was
> still available)

Nuh-uh! The terrorists would have had their trunk full of bread, milk, and toilet paper. When combined, these three items have been scientifically proven to protect you from all cold, ice, and snow-related problems.

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: January 26, 2009 03:50PM

Snowgeek Wrote:
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> Yes, then we can all sit inside and play our
> Fallout 3 games.

i hope it comes with oxygen tanks because you will suffocate under that much snow. also, the whole electricity to your house thing isnt going to be working out so well.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: January 26, 2009 03:50PM

Gravis Wrote:
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> wow... have you been reading my mind?
>
> wait, holy shit! why are you reading my mind?!
> get out of my head!!!

Well, we are both Elliot.

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: January 26, 2009 03:51PM

MrMephisto Wrote:
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> Well, we are both Elliot.


i completely forgot.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: January 26, 2009 03:54PM

Gravis Wrote:
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> MrMephisto Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Well, we are both Elliot.
>
> i completely forgot.

I find that hard to believe, since I remembered. But then, one of us would have to "forget" to "maintain" the "illusion" we are not all the same "person."

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Posted by: Icegeek ()
Date: January 26, 2009 03:55PM

Gravis Wrote:
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> Snowgeek Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Yes, then we can all sit inside and play our
> > Fallout 3 games.
>
> i hope it comes with oxygen tanks because you will
> suffocate under that much snow. also, the whole
> electricity to your house thing isnt going to be
> working out so well.

It would be the real life Fallout 3, just as fun.

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Posted by: HJK ()
Date: January 26, 2009 03:56PM

MrMephisto Wrote:
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> Gravis Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > MrMephisto Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Well, we are both Elliot.
> >
> > i completely forgot.
>
> I find that hard to believe, since I remembered.
> But then, one of us would have to "forget" to
> "maintain" the "illusion" we are not all the same
> "person."


Were yous one of the guys sitting in the snow plow parked at Tysons?

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: January 26, 2009 04:24PM

Um... totally.

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Posted by: I are an Idiot ()
Date: January 26, 2009 05:27PM

I love to watch all the idiots who own a snow plow hook them up to their two-wheel drive Nissan pickup or their jeep wrangler and drive around NoVa for 36 hours prior to any prediction of snow. Those guys look cool! If the PoPo stopped each of them they would probably find several drunk rednecks with 5 cases of empty Milwaukee's Best cans in the back.

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Posted by: jimW ()
Date: January 26, 2009 05:34PM

I are an Idiot Wrote:
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> If the PoPo stopped each
> of them they would probably find several drunk
> rednecks with 5 cases of empty Milwaukee's Best
> cans in the back.

what do you think the plow drivers on I-66 are doing parked on the side of the highway?

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Posted by: Clobbersaurus ()
Date: January 26, 2009 05:43PM

Jester Wrote:
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> Yup because the county got their ass reamed out
> last year after the mixing bowl fiasco.


What are you talking about? It only took me 5 hours to go from Old Town Alexandria to Fair Oaks that night.

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Posted by: jimW ()
Date: January 26, 2009 05:45PM

Clobbersaurus Wrote:
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> Jester Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Yup because the county got their ass reamed out
> > last year after the mixing bowl fiasco.
>
>
> What are you talking about? It only took me 5
> hours to go from Old Town Alexandria to Fair Oaks
> that night.

you better give up that shortcut right now buddy.

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Posted by: Bob ()
Date: January 27, 2009 12:16AM

Suburbanite Wrote:
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> As for what the plows are costing us, they never
> even came close to budget last year it was so dry,
> and it's already the end of January and they
> haven't really used much. Sure, it'd be great if

Plus the state, cities and counties can always apply for "federal disaster relief funds" if we get enough snow during this season to cause them to go over budget.

Herndon started that shit in 1992 or some time around then, after one winter where we had a bunch of snowfalls. They applied for and received disaster relief. I think they didn't even outspend their budget, but somebody in the Herndon Gov't figured out that they could get money from the feds. I think it's become standard practice ever since.

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Posted by: DirtMcGirt ()
Date: January 27, 2009 05:20PM

pgens Wrote:
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> DirtMcGirt Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Good grief. You guys have it good
> > here or something, in NY they don't come out
> until
> > there is at least 3" on the ground.
>
> You must be new here.

Nope, been here since 01. Moved here from upstate NY where kids go to school and people are at work with anything less than 6 inches on the ground. I got dudes at work saying they're not coming in tomorrow alrady... it's pitiful, I just got home on 66, the roads are just wet! I know, these people can't drive in it but a lot of people use it as an excuse to drink beer, play xbox and take shits all day long when others are at work. It's even more ridiculous when these people are driving out of the garage in Cherokees and fukn' Audi Quattro's. Just some people need to show they have nuts and a sack rather than being bitches.

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Posted by: Bob ()
Date: January 27, 2009 09:32PM

DirtMcGirt Wrote:
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> > You must be new here.
>
> Nope, been here since 01. Moved here from upstate

Well, being here 8 years is still sorta "new here". If you stay here for more than 2 different presidents, especially from different parties, then you can claim to be a local, and not just here temporarily working for an administration or lobbyist. ;)

There are hard-core lifers who would claim that even I am "new here" even though I moved here in 1980 when I was 10 years old, so don't sweat it too much. What matters is if you plan on staying here long-term or are just here to make a quick buck and then leave.


> NY where kids go to school and people are at work
> with anything less than 6 inches on the ground. I
> got dudes at work saying they're not coming in
> tomorrow alrady... it's pitiful, I just got home
> on 66, the roads are just wet! I know, these
> people can't drive in it but a lot of people use
> it as an excuse to drink beer, play xbox and take
> shits all day long when others are at work. It's
> even more ridiculous when these people are driving
> out of the garage in Cherokees and fukn' Audi
> Quattro's. Just some people need to show they have
> nuts and a sack rather than being bitches.


Yeah, there's a lot of people around here who just can't deal with the snow. Heck, there are people who have difficulty driving when we get a little sun shower in the spring.

However, it's better that the really inexperienced drivers just stay off the roads. Nothing is more annoying (and dangerous) than approaching a cluster of cars on the highway all bunched up in both lanes going 35 mph when the conditions allow 55 to 60 mph. And they don't even have their hazards on, they're just tooling along, driving next to someone equally as retarded as they are, causing more dangerous conditions than if they would just stick to the prevailing speeds, or at least stick to the right lane like the law proscribes.

As for the slackers, if they are at least smart, they don't call in and say "I'm not going to work today, it snowed". They should call in and say they're working from home, since they really don't have any meetings and can take care of most of what they have to do electronically, but if the boss needs them, they would be willing to come in a little later after the roads have been cleared. It seems to keep the boss happy if you don't appear to just slough off your work because frozen water fell from the sky.



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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Posted by: 496 ()
Date: January 27, 2009 10:34PM

Thank god Bob weighed in with yet another topic in which he is a master of. I was beginning to panic!

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Posted by: Awakened ()
Date: January 27, 2009 10:36PM

Bad topic, bad timing. Why would you make this topic? It would only apply to non-snow days... and sometimes there is a genuine need for snow plows!



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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Posted by: dono ()
Date: January 27, 2009 10:41PM

496 Wrote:
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> Thank god Bob weighed in with yet another topic in
> which he is a master of. I was beginning to panic!

lol

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Posted by: Dumbob ()
Date: January 27, 2009 11:56PM

496 Wrote:
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> Thank god Bob weighed in with yet another topic in
> which he is a master of. I was beginning to panic!


Bob has not mastered how to spell his name correctly. It's spelled with two
"o's"

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Posted by: DirtMcgirt ()
Date: January 28, 2009 12:03AM

Walking to my girl's place, which is about 1/2 mile down the road from me on Rt. 7 and some chick was turning into her apt complex. All of a sudden I hear an icy screech then BAM. Carnage, both people are ok. Lady was following way too close and the other azzhat chick didn't have her blinker on. Shit happened about 30 yds from me, scared the shit out of me. I'm still goin' to work tomorrow, side roads are a sheet of ice though.

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Posted by: Bob ()
Date: January 28, 2009 01:06AM

DirtMcgirt Wrote:
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> Walking to my girl's place, which is about 1/2
> mile down the road from me on Rt. 7 and some chick
> was turning into her apt complex. All of a sudden
> I hear an icy screech then BAM. Carnage, both
> people are ok. Lady was following way too close
> and the other azzhat chick didn't have her blinker
> on. Shit happened about 30 yds from me, scared
> the shit out of me. I'm still goin' to work
> tomorrow, side roads are a sheet of ice though.


You think it would make sense to use your turn signal to let the cars behind you know that you're going to be slowing down or stopping to make a turn, when the roads are slippery.

I wonder why these people don't seem to have any awareness of their own safety.




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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Posted by: dono ()
Date: January 28, 2009 02:52AM

From the looks of it they will need snow plows, blow torches and chisels in the morning!

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Posted by: 496 ()
Date: January 28, 2009 09:12AM

Yikes, I violated my own CAPS rule. So sowwy.

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Posted by: DirtMcgirt ()
Date: January 28, 2009 09:36AM

They were there again... on 267, about 5 of em'. Just sitting there. Roads were clear though, was doing around 70mph. Funny, I get to work and nobody is here... i'm surrounded by pu**ies.

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: January 28, 2009 10:29AM

DirtMcgirt Wrote:
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> They were there again... on 267, about 5 of em'.
> Just sitting there. Roads were clear though, was
> doing around 70mph. Funny, I get to work and
> nobody is here... i'm surrounded by pu**ies.

Seconded.

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Date: January 28, 2009 10:33AM

MrMephisto Wrote:
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> DirtMcgirt Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > They were there again... on 267, about 5 of em'.
>
> > Just sitting there. Roads were clear though,
> was
> > doing around 70mph. Funny, I get to work and
> > nobody is here... i'm surrounded by pu**ies.
>
> Seconded.


Those pussies sure are something, alright. Kicking back in front of the fire place with an Irish coffee while guys like you battle your way into the office. Those pussies are pretty stupid, aren't they?

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: January 28, 2009 10:39AM

WashingTone Locian Wrote:
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> Those pussies sure are something, alright. Kicking
> back in front of the fire place with an Irish
> coffee while guys like you battle your way into
> the office. Those pussies are pretty stupid,
> aren't they?

Well, yeah. Especially when it wasn't a battle to get into work. The roads are clear, and most businesses try to keep their sidewalks clear so some dumbass doesn't slip and break their ass. The only danger out there is perceived.

I'm shocked, SHOCKED, the government is open, though.

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: January 28, 2009 10:45AM

The roads around Tysons weren't bad at all this morning and metro was running smoothly, my commute was just fine. I think most people just take advantage of the situation so they can goof off around the house for the day.

And I totally resent that right now!!

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: January 28, 2009 10:48AM

Oh, yeah, and I don't even have a fireplace, so what am I supposed to kick back in front of? The stove?

WTL is probably wearing thick fuzzy socks with individual toes as he sips his Irish coffee and chortles about us plebes that had to service The Man today.

I'm not jealous or bitter at all.

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Posted by: DirtMcGirt ()
Date: January 28, 2009 10:49AM

WashingTone Locian Wrote:
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> MrMephisto Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > DirtMcgirt Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > They were there again... on 267, about 5 of
> em'.
> >
> > > Just sitting there. Roads were clear though,
> > was
> > > doing around 70mph. Funny, I get to work and
> > > nobody is here... i'm surrounded by pu**ies.
> >
> > Seconded.
>
>
> Those pussies sure are something, alright. Kicking
> back in front of the fire place with an Irish
> coffee while guys like you battle your way into
> the office. Those pussies are pretty stupid,
> aren't they?

Looks like we have a pu**y here. You at home? Funny, everyone tries to make 100k, complain about the job cuts and layoffs, complain about the economy... yet they don't want to work when it rains. Pathetic.

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Date: January 28, 2009 10:59AM

MrMephisto Wrote:
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> Oh, yeah, and I don't even have a fireplace, so
> what am I supposed to kick back in front of? The
> stove?
>
> WTL is probably wearing thick fuzzy socks with
> individual toes as he sips his Irish coffee and
> chortles about us plebes that had to service The
> Man today.
>
> I'm not jealous or bitter at all.


Actually, they are wool slippers and flannel pajamas. The fire is going, but I'm not into Irish coffee. I may have some scotch later in the day.

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Date: January 28, 2009 11:00AM

DirtMcGirt Wrote:
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> >
> > Those pussies sure are something, alright.
> Kicking
> > back in front of the fire place with an Irish
> > coffee while guys like you battle your way into
> > the office. Those pussies are pretty stupid,
> > aren't they?
>
> Looks like we have a pu**y here. You at home?
> Funny, everyone tries to make 100k, complain about
> the job cuts and layoffs, complain about the
> economy... yet they don't want to work when it
> rains. Pathetic.


I make over 100K.

I am working from home.

It's the ones who show up everyday to work for "The Man" who end up getting laid off. Where do you think "The Man" is right now? He's doing the same shit I am while you guys are earning his bonus money for him before he cuts you in the 2nd Quarter.

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: January 28, 2009 11:09AM

So I'm going to get laid off because I don't make 100k and have a job that requires me to show up to the office if it's open?

Fuck my life.

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Date: January 28, 2009 11:23AM

MrMephisto Wrote:
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> So I'm going to get laid off because I don't make
> 100k and have a job that requires me to show up to
> the office if it's open?
>
> Fuck my life.


Life is not fair.

There is only one way to ensure you don't get cut from your job...do you bring in money? If you don't, you always have to consider your position expendable.

I'm just being honest.

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: January 28, 2009 11:23AM

I'm just pissed because I could have totally worked from home today, but stupidly decided to come in because I didn't think it'd be bad out. I talked to our VP earlier, he acted surprised and was like "oh, you're in there today? you must be like the only one." Bastard!

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Posted by: HIJACKER ()
Date: January 28, 2009 11:27AM

> Those pussies sure are something, alright. Kicking
> back in front of the fire place with an Irish
> coffee while guys like you battle your way into
> the office. Those pussies are pretty stupid,
> aren't they?

Yesterday I didn't go in since I new the after rushhour was going to suck and it wasn't worth it. So, I spend the day on the sofa, with my laptop, checking email occassionally, watching TV.

Today, I wanted a change of scenery rather than staying home. The roads weren't bad at all, just wet - my neighborhood is what sucked. So, flip the SUV to 4WD, get out of the neighborhood, then off to work I go. No traffic, no stress, actually a pleasant drive in. Granted, I have jack shit to do here, but I can see more out my window and there's free donuts in the kitchen.

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Date: January 28, 2009 11:30AM

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> I'm just pissed because I could have totally
> worked from home today, but stupidly decided to
> come in because I didn't think it'd be bad out. I
> talked to our VP earlier, he acted surprised and
> was like "oh, you're in there today? you must be
> like the only one." Bastard!


VP = "The Man"

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Date: January 28, 2009 11:36AM

One time I was working on a big time project when I was employed by a firm in DC. It was a massive snow storm that shut down the Federal Government. The firm called a snow day, but I came in on the Metro because the work really needed to get done and I didn't have a laptop at the time.

Nobody was there except me. Then, the GM, who lived a couple of blocks away, popped in and saw me working. He knew I had a big commute and commented on it. He took off and I thought nothing of it.

During the next Senior Management meeting, he mentioned it to the Executive Team.

Low and behold, the next snow day the firm was closed, all the kiss-ass employees showed up hoping they would get noticed. Did they work? Fuck no. They ordered pizza and screwed around all day.

Once again I was there trying to get work done. It was a huge distraction.

It's all a big fucking game, folks. It's all a game.

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Posted by: RESton Peace ()
Date: January 28, 2009 11:53AM

And let me guess... you are Boris Spassky in this metaphor?

I knew you were just a commie traitor, WTL

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Posted by: your VP ()
Date: January 28, 2009 12:00PM

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> I'm just pissed because I could have totally
> worked from home today, but stupidly decided to
> come in because I didn't think it'd be bad out. I
> talked to our VP earlier, he acted surprised and
> was like "oh, you're in there today? you must be
> like the only one." Bastard!

little does he know you're on FFXUG all day anyways, regardless of working location...

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: January 28, 2009 12:07PM

your VP Wrote:
>> little does he know you're on FFXUG all day anyways, regardless of working location...


We all goof around on our iPhones and Blackberries all day, execs included, and that aint a problem as long as we keep the money flowing.

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Date: January 28, 2009 12:12PM

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> your VP Wrote:
> >> little does he know you're on FFXUG all day
> anyways, regardless of working location...
>
>
> We all goof around on our iPhones and Blackberries
> all day, execs included, and that aint a problem
> as long as we keep the money flowing.


That's what I'm saying.

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Date: January 28, 2009 12:14PM

RESton Peace Wrote:
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> And let me guess... you are Boris Spassky in this
> metaphor?
>
> I knew you were just a commie traitor, WTL


You do realize that if I am Boris Spassky that makes Alias Bobby Fischer. I'm not sure if that is an insult to Bobby Fischer or to Alias.

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: January 28, 2009 01:28PM

WashingTone Locian Wrote:
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> Life is not fair.
>
> There is only one way to ensure you don't get cut
> from your job...do you bring in money? If you
> don't, you always have to consider your position
> expendable.
>
> I'm just being honest.

Nevermind. I'll just say that, in the event that I get fired/laid off, I'll be going on a cross-country crime spree a la "Natural Born Killers."



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/28/2009 01:31PM by MrMephisto.

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Posted by: Bob ()
Date: January 28, 2009 11:10PM

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> your VP Wrote:
> >> little does he know you're on FFXUG all day
> anyways, regardless of working location...
>
>
> We all goof around on our iPhones and Blackberries
> all day, execs included, and that aint a problem
> as long as we keep the money flowing.

The higher up the "ladder", the more goofing off goes on.

What do you think all those "Vice Presidents" do when they travel? Leave work early on a Tuesday to fly to some city to "visit the client", eat at a nice restaurant Tuesday night on the company dime. Spend 3 hours at the client's office on Wednesday, maybe take the client to lunch on the company's dime, then spend the rest of the day relaxing in the concierge level hotel room the company is paying for, or do a little sightseeing or shopping. Have a nice dinner Wednesday night on the company dime, then retire back to the concierge lounge at the hotel for a few free drinks, and then the next morning fly home and spend the rest of Thursday at home.

My father played that game for the last 10 years before retiring. He really only worked on Mondays and Fridays, and even then he would often take naps on the couch in his office while his secretary told people he was offsite at a meeting or something. Though in defense of that slacker behavior, he salvaged two contracts worth $20 million with the NYC Comptroller and NYC public schools that were almost canceled because the project manager they sent up there was an incompetent fool, simply by spending those 3 hours a week with the clients and making sure their complaints were resolved.

As for goofing off on internet forums, anyone who works in an office spends at least some portion of their day doing "personal" things. I've gone over to the Verizon center and bowled 2 sets of frames at Lucky Strike with my boss a few times when things were really quiet around the office. My boss once took our entire department to see a movie at Union Station, too.

At a previous job, we had one developer who didn't show up for a week and a half. All of his tasks were getting done, he even upgraded the kernel on two of our servers. When he finally showed back up to the office, he had a noticeably darker tan than he normally would have. He had been at the outer banks. But his work was getting done, so everyone laughed about it.

Like you said, if the work is getting done, and money is being made, it doesn't matter how much you goof off.

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Posted by: jimW ()
Date: January 29, 2009 11:28AM

heard report on WTOP that VA State law says you have to clear ice/snow from all exterior lights, and license plate or you could get pulled over and ticketed.

duh.

also, if ice from another a-hole's car flys off and hits you, and causes damage, jot down the plate...call the police. you can get insurance money from them.

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Posted by: 496 ()
Date: January 29, 2009 01:12PM

"also, if ice from another a-hole's car flys off and hits you, and causes damage, jot down the plate...call the police. you can get insurance money from them."

Yeah, that happened to me in Florida.

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Date: January 29, 2009 01:24PM

Bob Wrote:
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I've gone over
> to the Verizon center and bowled 2 sets of frames
> at Lucky Strike with my boss a few times when
> things were really quiet around the office. My
> boss once took our entire department to see a
> movie at Union Station, too.
>

Even by my lax standards that is a bit much. Sounds like you work for Michael Scott...


Michael Scott Pictures, Images and Photos

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Re: C'mon, Is it really necessary for the snow plows?
Posted by: Bob ()
Date: January 30, 2009 12:40AM

WashingTone Locian Wrote:
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> Bob Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> I've gone over
> > to the Verizon center and bowled 2 sets of
> frames
> > at Lucky Strike with my boss a few times when
> > things were really quiet around the office. My
> > boss once took our entire department to see a
> > movie at Union Station, too.
> >
>
> Even by my lax standards that is a bit much.
> Sounds like you work for Michael Scott...
>
>
>

That's one of the benefits of working with journalists. They are the masters of slackery.

My department doesn't do this (often) but most of the older writers and editors have a few drinks at lunch. Some just don't return to work after lunch.

News services seem to have a tradition of being extremely laid back. I guess it's because it doesn't matter what you do as long as the story is filed on time. So as long as our projects are completed on time, as long as the websites and newsfeeds are functioning, nobody cares what we do.

Half the people in my department have slingbox. I just use it to keep CNN muted on my second monitor, but some people host little movie or sporting event "viewing parties" right in their cubicles. March Madness is like a no-go time for starting new projects or launching anything.

At my previous job, the Tax Editor was Irish, and every St. Patrick's day, around 2pm, he'd send a company-wide email inviting everyone down to his office for drinks. He'd have several coolers full of irish beers and several bottles of irish whiskey. Even the President and the Chairman of the board would come to that little party.

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