Serious question...

What would happen in Fairfax County if a Zombie Apocalypse were to occur?

Using The circumstances in Walking Dead as a model.


***Note: We're not disputing that one can or cannot happen. This assumes that one has happened and what would happen after an "Outbreak".

Some interesting articles on the subject...

Outbreaks
http://zombie.wikia.com/wiki/Outbreaks

How a Zombie Outbreak Could Happen in Real Life
http://io9.com/5916048/how-a-zombie-outbreak-could-happen-in-real-life

What would the U.S. Government, in theory, do if there was an actual zombie outbreak?
http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1920q7/
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Alexandria would turn into a safe zone.

Here's some information on the population of Fairfax county to consider...

Economic and Demographic Information
http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/demogrph/gendemo.htm

We'd be fine. All the beaner zombies would fall asleep before they could do anything.

I'd be holed up in my basement which is already stocked with can goods and bottled water. And guns. Lots and lots of guns.

Nuke it.

Nothing much lost.

You have to consider as well what type of zombies would be brought about.

Are these super strong zombies that can sprint and jump and climb like in World War Z or I am Legend?

Are they still living like in 28 Days/Weeks Later and can be killed like a normal human (you don't need to make headshots).....

survivor Wrote:
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> I'd be holed up in my basement which is already
> stocked with can goods and bottled water. And
> guns. Lots and lots of guns.


Okay good, but what do you do when you start to run low on ammunition and food?

eesh Wrote:
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> You have to consider as well what type of zombies
> would be brought about.
>
> Are these super strong zombies that can sprint and
> jump and climb like in World War Z or I am Legend?
>
>
> Are they still living like in 28 Days/Weeks Later
> and can be killed like a normal human (you don't
> need to make headshots).....

That's a fair question, use the "Walking Dead" zombies as a reference. Fairly mobile but not fast like they were in World War Z.

I'd do my best to get my family out of this highly populated area. We have enough supplies to sit tight for a few weeks, than try to move on after the really bad craziness has hopefully settled down some. Apocalyptic bonus points if my one neighbor gets infected and I get to put one in his dome. Sorry bud, that's what being a dick in the good times gets you. One reason to stay though is that with so many houses around here there's allot of supplies to forage!

I would be worried that leaving the city would mean running into redneck and Spanish gangs in the suburban areas. So if the zombies don't get you, one of those "foraging" gangs surely would.

Your best option would be to hole up to survive the initial wave of madness.

We've seen in plenty of circumstances that this area becomes crippled if any decent sized portion of the population tries to travel at the same time. Any evacuation would be equally ineffective, so you'd have the "Walking Dead" scenario of the people stuck on the highway just listening to the radio. Heck when we had that earthquake, the cell service promptly failed to work.

I work downtown and am pretty much resigned to the fact that in an emergency, I am not getting home. I have the same general plan for that scenario, to find a safe place to wait it out.

You aren't going anywhere anyway. I-95 and 66 will be filled with abandoned cars.

UJ3TY Wrote:
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> I would be worried that leaving the city would
> mean running into redneck and Spanish gangs in the
> suburban areas. So if the zombies don't get you,
> one of those "foraging" gangs surely would.

Might be worthwhile to seize control of a Costco or BJ's, secure the building, and then setup an area to live (above ground) like they had in "Employee of the month" (Remember that place they had hidden in the pallets?.

eesh Wrote:
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> You aren't going anywhere anyway. I-95 and 66 will
> be filled with abandoned cars.

With "herds" of zombies ganging up on all the people.
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What would happen? All white people would fight LOL. Ya'll cant fight! Black power ftw.


Lebron James aka King James is our god. Bow down!

HOA's would ban them. Problem solved.

Depending on how the "outbreak" occurred, how quickly, and how fast the zombies move/infect others really would help to decide the outcome. At least in the United States there is a large percentage of gun owners to help cull the numbers of zombies. The problem is of course, the zombies would overwhelm that person by sheer numbers no matter how many guns they had (see Mythbusters zombie science).

How many guns are registered in America?
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/03/19/how-many-people-own-guns-in-america-and-is-gun-ownership-actually-declining/

That’s a seemingly obvious question without a straightforward answer. There’s no universal gun registry, and thus not a simple way to pin down the exact number of firearms in the U.S.

There are estimates, however. According to the Geneva-based Small Arms Survey – the leading source of international public information about firearms – the U.S. has the best-armed civilian population in the world, with an estimated 270 million total guns. That’s an average of 89 firearms for every 100 residents — far ahead of Yemen, which comes in second with about 55 firearms for every 100 people, or Switzerland, which is third with 46 guns for every 100 people.

There are certain types of firearms that do require registration in the United States: those subject to the National Firearms Act, including machine guns, shotguns and rifles with barrels shorter than 18 inches, and silencers.

According to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, which handles that registration, there were more than 3.1 million National Firearms Act-registered weapons in the U.S. as of March 2012. That includes more than 488,000 machine guns and more than 2 million “destructive devices” such as grenades, which are also classified under the law.

It's already happening, check these out...

VIDEO: Cop Kills Naked Man Allegedly Eating Another Man's Face
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/26/naked-man-eating-victims-face-killed-miami_n_1548359.html

Man Headbutts Cars On Australian Freeway In Sign Of 'Zombie Apocalypse' (VIDEO)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/12/man-headbutts-cars-australia_n_4261496.html?utm_hp_ref=zombie-apocalypse

CDC - Office of Public Health Preparedness and Response
Zombie Preparedness
http://www.cdc.gov/phpr/zombies.htm

Max Brooks Is Not Kidding About the Zombie Apocalypse
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/23/magazine/max-brooks-is-not-kidding-about-the-zombie-apocalypse.html?_r=0

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> It's already happening, check these out...
>
> VIDEO: Cop Kills Naked Man Allegedly Eating
> Another Man's Face
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/26/naked-man
> -eating-victims-face-killed-miami_n_1548359.html
>
> Man Headbutts Cars On Australian Freeway In Sign
> Of 'Zombie Apocalypse' (VIDEO)
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/12/man-headb
> utts-cars-australia_n_4261496.html?utm_hp_ref=zomb
> ie-apocalypse
>
> CDC - Office of Public Health Preparedness and
> Response
> Zombie Preparedness
> http://www.cdc.gov/phpr/zombies.htm
>
> Max Brooks Is Not Kidding About the Zombie
> Apocalypse
> http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/23/magazine/max-bro
> oks-is-not-kidding-about-the-zombie-apocalypse.htm
> l?_r=0

It sure is...
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I think the key would be to round up gun owners and form groups to eliminate the zombies. I think that if each of us were to "go it alone", we'd all get picked off by sheer numbers. We'd need food and ammunition, so we'd have to come out of our houses.

The wealthy could escape. I'm sure there are quite a few individuals that own helicopters and private airplanes in Northern Virginia. People that own boats and yachts on the Occoquan and Potomac could go out to the Atlantic and stay close to the coast.

eesh Wrote:
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> The wealthy could escape. I'm sure there are quite
> a few individuals that own helicopters and private
> airplanes in Northern Virginia. People that own
> boats and yachts on the Occoquan and Potomac could
> go out to the Atlantic and stay close to the
> coast.

Then what? Is there any place to go that is isolated enough from the mainland, but still has enough food and fresh water to survive?

Rick Grimes Wrote:
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> Then what? Is there any place to go that is
> isolated enough from the mainland, but still has
> enough food and fresh water to survive?



Tangier Island, the Appalachian.

Hell, you could take one of those massive estates in Fauquier and turn it into a fortress.

Much too long for here, but Cecil discusses power failure...
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2165/when-the-zombies-take-over-how-long-till-the-electricity-fails

I'd probably stay put, go upstairs and block off the stairwell and wait it out. It would be sheer chaos outside and any attempts to escape would mean your doom. Plus, all the vacated house would be littered with goods, and all the zombies would follow the food into the rural counties. The sheer amount of gun owners and people who watch shows like the walking dead would lead me to believe we might not be fucked after all.

eesh Wrote:
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> Hell, you could take one of those massive estates
> in Fauquier and turn it into a fortress.

There are farms out there also, with plenty of beef, chicken, vegetables, and well water. The only problem would be securing it and keeping zombies out. One or two wouldn't be a problem, but guns are loud and would attract others. It would need to be a in place off the main roads, and be difficult terrain to get through (thick forest or swamp maybe).

Priapus Wrote:
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> Much too long for here, but Cecil discusses power
> failure...
> http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2165/when
> -the-zombies-take-over-how-long-till-the-electrici
> ty-fails

This is particularly frightening from the article...

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2165/when-the-zombies-take-over-how-long-till-the-electricity-fails

About 51% of U.S. and 16% of Canadian electrical generation comes from coal-fired plants. Coal power plants are generally the most problematic in terms of supplying enough fuel to remain in operation, and I could write (and have written) hundreds of pages about them. Mercifully, I'll summarize. At most coal power plants the coal is stored in a huge outdoor pile, where it is typically pushed by bulldozers onto a conveyor and carried to large silos or bunkers at an upper level of the plant, from which it is fed to the burners. When the plant is operating at full output, these bunkers theoretically have a capacity ranging from 8 hours to more than 24 hours. As a practical matter, depending on the amount of coal in the bunkers and the way the plant distributes coal to the burners, the plant may start losing power in as little as 2-4 hours. Whether or not this initial reduction in coal flow shuts the plant down depends on the sophistication of the control systems and the ability of the plant to continue at partial power output without operator intervention.

Coal plants commonly require a lot of operator input to keep running. The controls at coal plants vary tremendously, from systems that are essentially unchanged since the 1950s to modern closed-loop neural network predictive models. In my experience from many months spent in control rooms of power plants around the world, coal plants on average require some sort of operator response for a "critical alarm" every 1-3 hours. Sometimes this is a relatively minor issue, such as a warning to flush the ash systems; sometimes it's more serious, such as excessively high steam temperature or low coal supply. Whatever the case, if the control room were left unattended, I think it's likely that a large number of coal power plants would "trip" (automatically shut down and disconnect from the electrical grid) within 12-18 hours.

About 20% of United States' and 12% of Canadian electrical generation comes from nuclear power plants. Nuclear plants can operate a long time between refuelings - 500 days is a typical quoted figure, and some plants (Brunswick 1 and Pickering 7) are notable for having gone more than 700 days between refuelings. Nuclear plants tend to be more stable in operation than coal plants, and generally have more advanced control systems that can correct for minor problems or routine fluctuations. Two nuclear plant operators I asked about this wondered what I had been drinking, then said that a modern North American nuclear plant would likely run unattended for quite a bit longer than a coal power plant barring a mandated operator response - perhaps as long as a few days to a week. This could vary considerably depending on the plant.
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Hmmmmm... Wrote:
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> eesh Wrote:
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> > Hell, you could take one of those massive
> estates
> > in Fauquier and turn it into a fortress.
>
> There are farms out there also, with plenty of
> beef, chicken, vegetables, and well water. The
> only problem would be securing it and keeping
> zombies out. One or two wouldn't be a problem, but
> guns are loud and would attract others. It would
> need to be a in place off the main roads, and be
> difficult terrain to get through (thick forest or
> swamp maybe).

Your guns may be loud but mine not so much.

I can easily imagine all the roads being swelled up during an evacuation, cell phones not working (too many users on at once), and local police being overwhelmed. Imagine having to set up and hold a perimeter against an ever growing zombie army.

I'll be laughing my ass off when anti-gunners want me to protect them. Or even funnier, when they actually want to borrow one of mine. I'll hand them a rolled up copy of the Brady Bill and send them on their way.

TESS Wrote:
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> I'll be laughing my ass off when anti-gunners want
> me to protect them. Or even funnier, when they
> actually want to borrow one of mine. I'll hand
> them a rolled up copy of the Brady Bill and send
> them on their way.

+100!

In an apocalypse scenario, zombies would elect an entire slate of corrupt and incompetent left wing politicians. Oh wait...

Now I'm scared.... Wrote:
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> About 20% of United States' and 12% of Canadian
> electrical generation comes from nuclear power
> plants. Nuclear plants can operate a long time
> between refuelings - 500 days is a typical quoted
> figure, and some plants (Brunswick 1 and Pickering
> 7) are notable for having gone more than 700 days
> between refuelings. Nuclear plants tend to be more
> stable in operation than coal plants, and
> generally have more advanced control systems that
> can correct for minor problems or routine
> fluctuations.

You can thank the left-wing envirotards for that.

Nuclear plants are more efficient and overall better for the environment. But its almost impossible to build any new ones because of unreasonable regulations and public hysteria fueled by the "green" crowd.

It depends on whether they have active security clearances. If they can continue to bill, leave them as they are.

Hmmmmm... Wrote:
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> eesh Wrote:
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> > Hell, you could take one of those massive
> estates
> > in Fauquier and turn it into a fortress.
>
> There are farms out there also, with plenty of
> beef, chicken, vegetables, and well water. The
> only problem would be securing it and keeping
> zombies out. One or two wouldn't be a problem, but
> guns are loud and would attract others. It would
> need to be a in place off the main roads, and be
> difficult terrain to get through (thick forest or
> swamp maybe).

There are also well armed farmers who aren't going to move over just for you.
They will protect their own and send you on your way unless you want to
become a zombie too.

eesh Wrote:
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> Hell, you could take one of those massive estates
> in Fauquier and turn it into a fortress.

I think some place in the mountains would be better.

I imagine that zombies would have a tough time walking up steep hills.

People would call the state and county and bitch about how much taxes they pay and the county should come and clean up the zombies so all their little Johnnys and Janes can go to their soccer practice.

Slow them down Wrote:
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> eesh Wrote:
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> > Hell, you could take one of those massive
> estates
> > in Fauquier and turn it into a fortress.
>
> I think some place in the mountains would be
> better.
>
> I imagine that zombies would have a tough time
> walking up steep hills.

In the Walking dead, they hid near a quarry outside of Atlanta for a while and thought they were safe due to the steep hills. Turns out as the zombies had less “food”, they become hungrier and tried harder to make it up the steep inclines, usually by finding animal trails. In fact, that’s how they find the one walker, eating a dead dear one of the survivors had shot.

You can hide out in a library. Nobody goes there.

You can hide out in Wrote:
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> You can hide out in a library. Nobody goes there.

There's also no food.

5 Scientific Reasons a Zombie Apocalypse Could Actually Happen


We found out recently that if you try to leave a little kid in a graveyard late at night, he'll freak out. Even if you offer to leave him a gun to protect himself. Why? It's because on some instinctual level, all humans know it's just a matter of time until the zombies show up.

Our culture is full of tales of the undead walking the Earth, from our religions to our comic books. But, some sort of zombie apocalypse isn't actually possible, right?

Right?

Guys?

Actually, yes. It's quite possible. Here's five ways it could happen, according to science.

Read more: http://www.cracked.com/article_15643_5-scientific-reasons-zombie-apocalypse-could-actually-happen.html#ixzz2vaeitRcf

Hmmmmm... Wrote:
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> eesh Wrote:
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> > Hell, you could take one of those massive
> estates
> > in Fauquier and turn it into a fortress.
>
> There are farms out there also, with plenty of
> beef, chicken, vegetables, and well water. The
> only problem would be securing it and keeping
> zombies out. One or two wouldn't be a problem, but
> guns are loud and would attract others. It would
> need to be a in place off the main roads, and be
> difficult terrain to get through (thick forest or
> swamp maybe).

Bigger problem IMO in the sticks is the obligatory roving gangs of nasty dudes who want to take your food. Securing against zombies is one thing. Fighting off armed bandits is another. You'd have to have some numbers, with guns and ammo to keep your farm fortress.

If it were to occur in Fairfax, everyone one race to take pictures and post them on Facebook. Then, they would get in their cars and automatically run them into ditches or just abandon them at major intersections. The would post on Fairfax Underground about the helicopter being overhead and if school is cancelled for the next day.


The zombies would then simply turn around and leave. They discovered no one in this area has a brain, so they would starve.

A lot of the Peruvian chicken joints would go out of business.

DISQO Wrote:
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> It depends on whether they have active security
> clearances. If they can continue to bill, leave
> them as they are.



HA! As long as they can submit their timecard before noon every Friday, they are good to go.

IT COULD REALLY HAPPEN Wrote:
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> 5 Scientific Reasons a Zombie Apocalypse Could
> Actually Happen
>
>
> We found out recently that if you try to leave a
> little kid in a graveyard late at night, he'll
> freak out. Even if you offer to leave him a gun to
> protect himself. Why? It's because on some
> instinctual level, all humans know it's just a
> matter of time until the zombies show up.
>
> Our culture is full of tales of the undead walking
> the Earth, from our religions to our comic books.
> But, some sort of zombie apocalypse isn't actually
> possible, right?
>
> Right?
>
> Guys?
>
> Actually, yes. It's quite possible. Here's five
> ways it could happen, according to science.
>
> Read more:
> http://www.cracked.com/article_15643_5-scientific-
> reasons-zombie-apocalypse-could-actually-happen.ht
> ml#ixzz2vaeitRcf


I checked out this link yesterday and I have to tell you, some of the scenarios they come up with are pretty scary and some almost believable.

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there are many shows suggestive of suicide and murder from hollywood recently: who get both COX and Federal money btw

modern hollywood game show: ie, a foreigner walking through guts, having bang go off and guts fly near her head, then she laughs and goes on to enjoying a reward for it

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new hollywood film:

arm hispanic females in puberty with weapons

and make running a gang and killing and threatening people

look like it's acceptable and cool as one can possibly make it

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make the underlying them be: kill white people steal as much as you can your hispanic familia will help you out

UJ3TY Wrote:
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> I would be worried that leaving the city would
> mean running into redneck and Spanish gangs in the
> suburban areas. So if the zombies don't get you,
> one of those "foraging" gangs surely would.


The reality is that criminals and gangs would prosper in such an environment. They are used to doing whatever necessary to survive. The pajama boys and liberals would all die early waiting for someone else to rescue and feed them.

Rick Grimes Wrote:
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> eesh Wrote:
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> > The wealthy could escape. I'm sure there are
> quite
> > a few individuals that own helicopters and
> private
> > airplanes in Northern Virginia. People that own
> > boats and yachts on the Occoquan and Potomac
> could
> > go out to the Atlantic and stay close to the
> > coast.
>
> Then what? Is there any place to go that is
> isolated enough from the mainland, but still has
> enough food and fresh water to survive?


Ocracoke Island!



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IT WOULD IMPROVE THIS SHIT-HOLE OF AN AREA BY INFINITY!

An interesting aspect of the Walking Dead is the zombies themselves. Some of them act very strangely (for zombies). In season 2, they found some zombies praying in church in the episode "What Lies Ahead". What's up with that? FREAKY!
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http://www.runfromkillerzombies.com

The zombies are coming to Lorton in October. Run for the fun.

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you'd see thsi!
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Regular zombies don't scare me, but zombie clowns...!!!
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Imbiker zombie scares me!!!!

Anyway, I created a product from a manufacturer and have inventory on some pills that threaten zombies by it's smell of the you.It keeps them from attacking you!

Zombies are afraid of fire, lead from rifles, and, lemonade.

I am the only person in the country with this pill formula.

Cross my palms with silver and I might be open to selling you some in a barter trade.

conclusion: Whilst the world panics, I walk pass zombies like ghandi on the battle field.

Living the tao of the pink panther.