As I got on the bus to school there was something missing, the chatter, talking, and gossiping had all but ceased. There were high schoolers in the
back sobbing and grieving. I didn't realize what had happened until someone had told me. Somebody killed himself.



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fourlegs Wrote:
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> As I got on the bus to school there was something
> missing, the chatter, talking, and gossiping had
> all but ceased. There were high schoolers in the
> back sobbing and grieving. I didn't realize what
> had happened until someone had told me.
> Somebody killed himself.

It was actually a killer train. Damn...Damn...Damn James is dead!

How, When? Drugs?

I can't tell if YXH7t being an insensitive bastard or telling the truth. If your being an insensitive bastard just go away this thread isn't for you.



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We're up to 4 parts now.

Shut the fuck up this isn't a joke. This kid died early and when he shouldn't have.

the student's name is already out there on Twitter. hopefully those that loved and cared about the student know where to go for honest caring sentiments. FU is definitely NOT the place.

fourlegs Wrote:
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> Shut the fuck up this isn't a joke. This kid died
> early and when he shouldn't have.


He also shouldn't have tied up the morning commute for close to 5000 people, so...

fourlegs Wrote:
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> I can't tell if YXH7t being an insensitive bastard
> or telling the truth. If your being an insensitive
> bastard just go away this thread isn't for you.

YXH7t is stealing my thunder. You're poor friend is more pieces than a jigsaw puzzle.

The question is why is it always woodson? and what was he doing in Manasass not in school today. Today absentee will count as UNEXCUSED

AGAIN WHY WOODSON Wrote:
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> The question is why is it always woodson? and what
> was he doing in Manasass not in school today.
> Today absentee will count as UNEXCUSED

All kidding aside, this is a serious question that needs to be answered. Why so many suicides from Woodson?

Maybe its the water

don't come to FU for sympathy Wrote:
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> the student's name is already out there on
> Twitter. hopefully those that loved and cared
> about the student know where to go for honest
> caring sentiments. FU is definitely NOT the
> place.

Try the Coroner's office first.

Maybe its not suicide. Maybe its teh contractor hiring illegals for work then killing them. He could be a Woodson Grad.

^^^^ FUCKING LAME!!!^^^^^

fourlegs Wrote:
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> As I got on the bus to school there was something
> missing, the chatter, talking, and gossiping had
> all but ceased. There were high schoolers in the
> back sobbing and grieving. I didn't realize what
> had happened until someone had told me.
> Somebody killed himself.
>
>
>
> His name is Jack Chen.

I guess that means that Jack's seat on the bus is free!

Woodson is a mainly white school. So basically everybody is the same and so there is a lot of competition

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>
>
> All kidding aside, this is a serious question that
> needs to be answered. Why so many suicides from
> Woodson?

The Faculty
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I am appalled at the extreme negativity on this thread. We are talking about a human life here and all you people care about is how long your commute took...

I'm severely questioning how humans can be so inhumane...

Rip Jack

you guys are assholes.

Thank God somebody is compassionate. RIP Jack. Sorry to all the losers on this thread that have never had any love in their lives.

Dam right ^

I'm glad you jerks like the fact i watched kid after kid breaking down in the halls today. Show some decency

This is a tragic thing; his friends and family will forever ask why. Kid was well liked and a football player.

For one of the nations wealthiest and best educated counties, I am dumbfounded by the inane comments of many posters. Can tolerate it for topics like Bigfoot and girls basketball but not for loss of life, especially so young.

Transplant Wrote:
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> This is a tragic thing; his friends and family
> will forever ask why. Kid was well liked and a
> football player.
>
> For one of the nations wealthiest and best
> educated counties, I am dumbfounded by the inane
> comments of many posters. Can tolerate it for
> topics like Bigfoot and girls basketball but not
> for loss of life, especially so young.

I resent this remark Human, after all it was one of your retarded spawn that ran in front of the train this time, not one of us. So keep me the fuck out of your conversation and stay the fuck out of my woods!
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He was fatally hit by a train, that does NOT mean he was suicidal. Many of you are being incredibly incentive, this is a young life that was lost and all you can say is "Jack's seat on the bus is free"? That's low. I hope that his family and friends can manage to get through this difficult time. May he rest in peace.

get off the train tracks, dumbass, use fucking common sense

jhkjhj Wrote:
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> He was fatally hit by a train, that does NOT mean
> he was suicidal. Many of you are being incredibly
> incentive, this is a young life that was lost and
> all you can say is "Jack's seat on the bus is
> free"? That's low. I hope that his family and
> friends can manage to get through this difficult
> time. May he rest in peace.

It's been confirmed he was on the tracks at 5:30am this morning, probably suicide. He might have gotten the idea from the girl who did the same thing about a month ago.

PS: It's "Insensitive" not "incentive". Jesus learn your fucking grammar before you try to criticize others.

This is a troll thread. The kid was named Jackie Chen, wake up people.

rest in peace jackie chen

I'm so disgusted by some of the people on this board. If this was a) a suicide, he was clearly hurting and people like those making fun of of his death might have been a contributor to his death, or b) an accident, you would feel awful if your friend or family member died in such a terrible way. If I could have this goddamn website shut down, I would.

There is place for jokes. A 15 year old boy jumped in front of a train. This is our FIFTH suicide in 4 years. Please have some respect.

Disgusted Wrote:
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> I'm so disgusted by some of the people on this
> board. If this was a) a suicide, he was clearly
> hurting and people like those making fun of of his
> death might have been a contributor to his death,
> or b) an accident, you would feel awful if your
> friend or family member died in such a terrible
> way. If I could have this goddamn website shut
> down, I would.

I'd be curious to know if he had any recent problems at school. Woodson has had several suicides over the past few years that were drug related (and that were part of football?).

if you come to ffx underground hoping for sympathy, you're gonna have a bad time.

To even engage people who are cowardly and disrespectful from behind their computer screens seems like a waste of time, but this thread should seen as an example why senseless tragedy keeps occurring. May those who have no decency for young life find empathy and compassion, and may those who are mourning find peace.

everyone is just a statistic when you have no personal connection to them

A Woodson Student Wrote:
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> There is place for jokes. A 15 year old boy jumped
> in front of a train. This is our FIFTH suicide in
> 4 years. Please have some respect.

Your absolutely right so...

What do you call an Asian that jumps in front of a train?





























Answer: Dead Wong

pooper_2 Wrote:
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> if you come to ffx underground hoping for
> sympathy, you're gonna have a bad time.


People are seeking information and community, and instead they are finding ignorance and horror

the truth hurts Wrote:
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> everyone is just a statistic when you have no
> personal connection to them


So then why make fun of them? What does that make you?

One day someone you love will die too.

but until then, why weigh our thoughts down thinking of somebody who we have no connection to? do you know how hard life would be to live if i gave a fuck about everyone who's died on the planet today?

150000 people each day.

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> pooper_2 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
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> > if you come to ffx underground hoping for
> > sympathy, you're gonna have a bad time.
>
>
> People are seeking information and community, and
> instead they are finding ignorance and horror

...And...
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In my opinion this website is extremely repulsive. So many people just talking trash about one another, having no remorse or proof of the allegations being made. This site is filled with people who have nothing better to do than hurt other from behind a computer screen. Why this should be a website about helping others and passing information around a community not a war zone where people put other people on trial and say horrible things about people. This is no better than cyber bullying except the anonymous names prevent you form having to reveal who they are. This is like a middle school where people do nothing but start rumors about others to hurt peoples feelings.

I hope that you read this message and think, about your future activity and really only present information that is factual and helpful to others in the northern Virginia area. Put yourself in the person your about to hurt before you post your message.

Disgusted Wrote:
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> I'm so disgusted by some of the people on this
> board. If this was a) a suicide, he was clearly
> hurting and people like those making fun of of his
> death might have been a contributor to his death,
> or b) an accident, you would feel awful if your
> friend or family member died in such a terrible
> way. If I could have this goddamn website shut
> down, I would.

If I had a friend or family member die in a public way, the last thing I would do is come to this place and complain and bitch about the comments.

Guess what, if you dont see them....it didnt happen.

And what exactly would be your grounds for shutting down this site? Not a fan of the 1st Amendment?

Just to refresh your memory:

The 1st Amendment of the US Constitution prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances. It was adopted on December 15, 1791, as one of the ten amendments that comprise the Bill of Rights.

Now, I agree, decency takes a back seat here. But if it offends you, no one is making you sit there in your chair and read it.

Stabitha Wrote:
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> Now, I agree, decency takes a back seat here. But
> if it offends you, no one is making you sit there
> in your chair and read it.

Well this boy was a minor and who the Hell gives you the right to poke fun at this unfortunate situation and embarrass the family? You are a heartless, two-faced, bed wetting, man-child whose unsuccessful with women. How can I tell? I read some of your other posts in this forum.

My thoughts and prayers are with the families.

is this them??
2 matches found, up to first 500 displayed
"CHENG ","JACKIE "," ","019"," 3271","KINROSS ","CI","HERNDON ","VA","10/17/2008","CONCEAL MERCHANDISE/MISD "
"CHENG ","JACKIE "," ","019"," 3271","KINROSS ","CI","HERNDON ","VA","10/17/2008","CONCEAL MERCHANDISE/MISD

Y'all are probably 30 yr old unemployed losers with a little bit too much time on your hands. And most likely single. Cause I promise you if you love someone you wouldn't say or think these things. Get a life man...

Lets try to turn this thread around.

The suicide rate at Woodson--and just Woodson--is out of control. I have this crazy idea: Is it possible that maybe a teacher/admin/coach/whoever at this school is some kind of child abuser?

All the victims are male, and the suicides are averaging 2 a year now. Some of them have been from the "popular" group, and the least likely to commit suicide.

I dunno, something is wrong at Woodson, and it's more than just the pressures to conform, get good grades and go to college.

Attack the message, not the messenger. You will go much further with your argument.

When you resort to ad hominem attacks, people tend to tune you out, which I just did in your case. But thanks for playing.

And no, that's not him. The guys name is Jack. The other poster was trying to make a couple people on an anonymous forum laugh.

Yo tune me out but that doesn't change the fact that you're a low life loser who needs to find a hobby

Fcps kid Wrote:
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> Yo tune me out but that doesn't change the fact
> that you're a low life loser who needs to find a
> hobby

I know, ad hominem threw you for a loop. Maybe if you didnt miss so many days from school because of 3 snowflakes, you would attain some knowledge and know how to debate someone.

Stabitha Wrote:
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> Fcps kid Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Yo tune me out but that doesn't change the fact
> > that you're a low life loser who needs to find
> a
> > hobby
>
> I know, ad hominem threw you for a loop. Maybe if
> you didnt miss so many days from school because of
> 3 snowflakes, you would attain some knowledge and
> know how to debate someone.

Stabitha your a master debater. LOL

Bud, I know what ad hominem is. In fact anyone could find out with a simple google search. But see I'm a straight A student who got into Northwestern and UVA. Where are you in life? And yes I am still attacking you. I'm well aware

Aww Stabitha! Your supporters don't know the difference between "your" and "you're". That's adorable. Now if you'll excuse, I've got some hw I need to do

So you did google it!

Attack all you want junior. It only makes you look more primitive and me more advanced.

How about you try debating the topic? What is your position.... besides your head up your ass

*excuse me

Sorry bout the typo

Fcps kid Wrote:
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> Bud, I know what ad hominem is. In fact anyone
> could find out with a simple google search. But
> see I'm a straight A student who got into
> Northwestern and UVA. Where are you in life? And
> yes I am still attacking you. I'm well aware

So, in other words you used google to look up the word. Northwestern and UVA are not such great schools.

UVA admits based on Dad's bank statement

All right "more primitive and advanced" person, I'll enjoy my #12 school in the country and get to my HW cause that's how kids don't end up like you.

And PS you must've not seen the part about Northwestern. All right peace, friend. Really hope ya find something better to spend your time on

Stabitha Wrote:
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> Attack the message, not the messenger. You will go
> much further with your argument.
>
> When you resort to ad hominem attacks, people tend
> to tune you out, which I just did in your case.
> But thanks for playing.


You are a lying hypocrite Stabitha

Fcps kid Wrote:
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> All right "more primitive and advanced" person,
> I'll enjoy my #12 school in the country and get to
> my HW cause that's how kids don't end up like you.
>
>
> And PS you must've not seen the part about
> Northwestern. All right peace, friend. Really hope
> ya find something better to spend your time on

You must be smart, you got thru that "homework" awfully quick.

lol "get to" means you're about to start it lls

Why would he do any homework, according to him he already got into UVA and Northwestern?

You can always tell you are dealing with a dolt when they start bragging about their grades and what schools they bought their way into.

they can't be too dumb if they got into top school lol he said he got straight a's. you can tell a dolt by someone who stops trying after they get into colleges

and this was about a kid who committed suicide, you really need to shut u and have some respect

And everything someone writes on FU is the truth.

Ok got it

ohhh killem Wrote:
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> they can't be too dumb if they got into top school
> lol he said he got straight a's. you can tell a
> dolt by someone who stops trying after they get
> into colleges

He didn't. :)

lol doesn't seem like they care about impressing some guy he's arguing against js

Stabitha Wrote:
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> Why would he do any homework, according to him he
> already got into UVA and Northwestern?
>
> You can always tell you are dealing with a dolt
> when they start bragging about their grades and
> what schools they bought their way into.

Only a immature basement dwelling troll would argue with an underage student.

Stabithawhatever the fuck your naem is. I am proud to say i realized my faults accusing this boy of something we should have helped him with. You statabithafuck should realice this too unless you have an IQ of 6. btw if you think NW and UVA arent good schools, you must be a community college drop out unemployed and growing a 2 inch dick. Ps are you a girl or a guy

You will be missed. :(
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Stabitha Wrote:
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> And everything someone writes on FU is the truth.
>
>
> Ok got it

You got it

Re: "Nobody needs a 15-round ammunition magazine unless they are a domestic terrorist or a gangster"
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: February 20, 2014 03:04PM

A Picasso and Sat. nite Special? Wrote:
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>
>
>
> Valuable 18th century British coach prints? But
> you invest in stamped metal thug guns. Get real
> Stabitha.

I have a large collection of firearms. I posted that one because it has 30 round mags. I love to shoot this gun because it's cheap fun. Im not going out and blasting away with one of my 9mm's or AR-15's and just throw ammo away. Its hard enough to keep stockpiled now without wasting it. The GSG is my fun gun but Im sure I could still stop an intruder pretty quickly with it.

When you learn how to spell and form sentences and use puncuation, I might give some thought to answering your questions.

GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT:
He ran into the VRE Train around 5:25am in the morning. Not in Manassas, but on the Manassas line off of Clara Barton Parkway. Rumor is is that it was indeed suicide. Stop being so inconsiderate. After the bell rang today to let us kids out at Woodson, it was DEAD SILENCE. No one spoke a word. The only noise you could hear was the sound of crying.

Damn good time to comfort the cute little hotties at that school.

Since most of the people posting negative comments about Jack, i would like to ask them one simple question. Why do you worship the devil and glorify death? Why do you talk to Satan? How black and cold does your heart have to be to post negatively on a boy you never knew and never effected you?

I'm just appalled by the inconsiderate assholes on this website. He wasn't skipping school thinking he was a badass. He wasn't trying to inconvenience the commute for everyone on that train. Who fucking knows what he was thinking, even we don't know if it was on purpose or not. You assholes didn't get to see this, but his best friends were bawling in the halls, in the library, everywhere. Almost all of the 10th grade left school early. There's no way you can say he wasn't a huge part of our community, having over a 4.0 GPA and being a three sport athlete. Just get one thing straight before you assume you know shit, he was one of the most loved guys at Woodson.

What was accomplished by leaving school early? I would have thought bonding and grieving with classmates would be more appropriate.

Every time some kid dies, we go through the same shit here. People post crude comments, others are appaled and in the end, it all fades away. Two weeks from now, this topic will be off the front page. A month from now, nobody will even remember this shit.

Life goes on.

Because after an hour of grieving with our classmates, we went home. Sorry it wasn't more "appropriate" to be feeling grief for one of your dear friends when there were kids who didn't even know him crying just because they could. Stop being so god damn judgmental

and no, we won't forget because for our other four death in the past couple years here, we haven't forgotten.

The last hour of the day was too surreal.... I just wish it wasn't true :(

Woodson Student Wrote:
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> Because after an hour of grieving with our
> classmates, we went home. Sorry it wasn't more
> "appropriate" to be feeling grief for one of your
> dear friends when there were kids who didn't even
> know him crying just because they could. Stop
> being so god damn judgmental

You still didnt answer the question. What was accomplished by leaving school early? And did only 10th graders get dismissed early. Did the deceased not know anyone in the other grades?

Geez, I never lived anywhere else where high school kids drop dead like flies like they do here. What the fuck is wrong with this area?

Friend of Jack Wrote:
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> GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT:
> He ran into the VRE Train around 5:25am in the
> morning. Not in Manassas, but on the Manassas
> line off of Clara Barton Parkway. Rumor is is
> that it was indeed suicide. Stop being so
> inconsiderate. After the bell rang today to let
> us kids out at Woodson, it was DEAD SILENCE. No
> one spoke a word. The only noise you could hear
> was the sound of crying.

Hmmmm...This is scary thought. I wonder if he and others were inspired to go out this way after the young girl that stepped in front of the VRE last month?

another dead kid Wrote:
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> Geez, I never lived anywhere else where high
> school kids drop dead like flies like they do
> here. What the fuck is wrong with this area?

Well I read an article a few weeks ago about how high school kids in this area are more stressed than their parents. They are driven to achieve and be models of inspiration so mommy and daddy and can brag about them at the Country Club on the weekends. Peer pressure takes them to the point of becoming drug addicts and yes, killing themselves

Stabitha Wrote:
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> another dead kid Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Geez, I never lived anywhere else where high
> > school kids drop dead like flies like they do
> > here. What the fuck is wrong with this area?
>
> Well I read an article a few weeks ago about how
> high school kids in this area are more stressed
> than their parents. They are driven to achieve and
> be models of inspiration so mommy and daddy and
> can brag about them at the Country Club on the
> weekends. Peer pressure takes them to the point of
> becoming drug addicts and yes, killing themselves

There was an article posted on FFU some time ago where FCPS put together a commission. As I recall, they wanted to diffuse some of the pressure from the penalties associated with drug use, and some other things. One of the suicide victims had been caught using something, was expelled or suspended, and later killed himself. Sadly if you do a search on suicide here on FFU, you'll see tons of articles on it.

^ Yep Nick something... he was being expelled for having weed on him.


Woodson has a lot of weed use, which leads to depression and psychosis.

hung himself Wrote:
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> ^ Yep Nick something... he was being expelled for
> having weed on him.
>
>
> Woodson has a lot of weed use, which leads to
> depression and psychosis.

There is definitely an "Elitist" attitude most parents have these days and putting so many expectations on their kids.

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actually its spelling so get you vocab right before you decide to be an asshole

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As a parent of a Woodson student, I am so very sorry for all the kids tonight. Those that knew Jack and those that didn't. Please, if you are feeling so stressed, or sad, or lonely, bullied, whatever...talk with someone. Nothing is so bad that suicide should be a go-to.

Another brick in the wall Wrote:
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> Every time some kid dies, we go through the same
> shit here. People post crude comments, others are
> appaled and in the end, it all fades away. Two
> weeks from now, this topic will be off the front
> page. A month from now, nobody will even remember
> this shit.
>
> Life goes on.

Not for Jack.

Leaving school early was a way to get away from the trajedy, as it was centered around the grieving kids. No, anybody who wanted to leave could, I was saying that he had more friends in the 10th grade than any other so of course that's who the majority of the kids who left early were. He had friends in every grade, but we the sophomores as a whole were hit the hardest.

A message to all of you lowlives who have nothing better to do than make sick jokes about an awful occurrence:

W.T. Woodson has dealt with some of the worst student deaths in the past two years. Many people here have watched their friends die. For you to make jokes out of a tragic death is absolutely sick and disgusting. It is an insult to not only Woodson High School, but also every person touched by this loss. I guarantee that if you had to experience what our school is going through, you would most definitely be just as frustrated by the inconsiderate, inhumane, and unacceptable comments made on this forum.

MUehm Wrote:
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> Stabitha Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > another dead kid Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Geez, I never lived anywhere else where high
> > > school kids drop dead like flies like they do
> > > here. What the fuck is wrong with this area?
> >
> > Well I read an article a few weeks ago about
> how
> > high school kids in this area are more stressed
> > than their parents. They are driven to achieve
> and
> > be models of inspiration so mommy and daddy and
>
> > can brag about them at the Country Club on the
> > weekends. Peer pressure takes them to the point
> of
> > becoming drug addicts and yes, killing
> themselves
>
> There was an article posted on FFU some time ago
> where FCPS put together a commission. As I recall,
> they wanted to diffuse some of the pressure from
> the penalties associated with drug use, and some
> other things. One of the suicide victims had been
> caught using something, was expelled or suspended,
> and later killed himself. Sadly if you do a search
> on suicide here on FFU, you'll see tons of
> articles on it.

Nick Stub in. Not weed, some synthetic stuff and not even on school grounds

Anonymous Woodson Student Wrote:
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> A message to all of you lowlives who have nothing
> better to do than make sick jokes about an awful
> occurrence:
>
> W.T. Woodson has dealt with some of the worst
> student deaths in the past two years. Many people
> here have watched their friends die. For you to
> make jokes out of a tragic death is absolutely
> sick and disgusting. It is an insult to not only
> Woodson High School, but also every person touched
> by this loss. I guarantee that if you had to
> experience what our school is going through, you
> would most definitely be just as frustrated by the
> inconsiderate, inhumane, and unacceptable comments
> made on this forum.

May I suggest instead of screwing around on FU, which is not known for sympathetic viewpoints, that someone start channeling some energy and attention to finding out what is causing all these suicides at one specific school? This number of incidents has to be abnormal.

The hallways after school, the air was heavy, like a cloud looming over everyone's head. The silence only broken by sounds of people crying. Nobody could focus in 8th period. You need to understand how difficult a time this is for the Woodson community. It shouldn't matter how he passed, many people lost a dear friend today. If you were there you would understand. May Jack rest in Peace, I send my upmost condolences to the family.

There are a lot of idiots on here that like to post insensitive comments about some terrible shit, until that terrible shit hits close to home. Then its a whole different story.

However, if you're coming on here looking for commiseration or an outlet for your feelings you're very much in the wrong place and a bit stupid yourself.

That said, it would probably be best to stop complaining about the insensitivity of an anonymous message board and start figuring out why your students are finding life unlivable and choosing to off themselves at an alarming rate. What is happening with these kids that is so bad?

There wasnt a single suicide at my high school in the mid 90's (gasp!), nor do i remember hearing of one at any other local school.

I live 3 miles from Woodson. Though im not in their homes during family time, i know the people around there. That isnt a necessarily high pressure environment. Its also a short walk through the woods to Fairfax HS, so the demographic is no different. So why is this happening at Woodson but not Fairfax?

I would definitely look into what these suicides had in common at the school itself; teachers, friends, etc.

Outta fuckin control.

maybe i'm wrong... Wrote:
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> Lets try to turn this thread around.
>
> The suicide rate at Woodson--and just Woodson--is
> out of control. I have this crazy idea: Is it
> possible that maybe a teacher/admin/coach/whoever
> at this school is some kind of child abuser?
>
> All the victims are male, and the suicides are
> averaging 2 a year now. Some of them have been
> from the "popular" group, and the least likely to
> commit suicide.
>
> I dunno, something is wrong at Woodson, and it's
> more than just the pressures to conform, get good
> grades and go to college.


Weren't most of the suicide victims on the football team, this guy included? Could it be concussions? Something in the gatorade?

There's electrolytes in Gatorade.

Don't use ad hominem attacks. They don't work well if you're trying to argue a point across.

I didn't know Jack personally but he seemed like he was such a happy person. He had so many people he interacted with every day. I rememeber sitting in his table during lunch once cuz I just followed one of my other friends there. From what i remember he was a nice and funny guy. It's so sad he passed away. RIP Jack Chen.

The weed nowadays is very strong, and high in THC and cannabinoids.

If anyone here smokes weed everyday for say, 6 months straight. I can almost guarantee you will be depressed, or suffer from some sort of mental health problem.


God damn kids nowadays need to drop that GMO weed and stick with the good ole reggie. That or steal your parents liquor.

Football season was over in late fall. Shouldnt be a connection.

What time of year were the other suicides?

Also, lets not espouse parents of all culpability here. Parents need to be aware of whats going on with their kids. Its their job above all other things in life. I personally cannot imagine being an active, involved, caring parent and not realizing that you have a depressed, suicidal kid living with you.

Step up. Be a pain in the ass parent now. Your kid, and your grand children will thank you later.

Que? Wrote:
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> Football season was over in late fall. Shouldnt
> be a connection.
>
> What time of year were the other suicides?
>
> Also, lets not espouse parents of all culpability
> here. Parents need to be aware of whats going on
> with their kids. Its their job above all other
> things in life. I personally cannot imagine being
> an active, involved, caring parent and not
> realizing that you have a depressed, suicidal kid
> living with you.
>
> Step up. Be a pain in the ass parent now. Your
> kid, and your grand children will thank you later.


+1

It's not the parenting or football... I went to private school, all of our parents were pretty strict by public school standards. Non of us killed ourselves.

Que? Wrote:
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> Football season was over in late fall. Shouldnt
> be a connection.
>
> What time of year were the other suicides?
>
> Also, lets not espouse parents of all culpability
> here. Parents need to be aware of whats going on
> with their kids. Its their job above all other
> things in life. I personally cannot imagine being
> an active, involved, caring parent and not
> realizing that you have a depressed, suicidal kid
> living with you.
>
> Step up. Be a pain in the ass parent now. Your
> kid, and your grand children will thank you later.


Concussions can catch up with people later...I agree on the parental pressure/bragging in that particular school pyramid though

Honestly it's sad, as a Woodson student I can tell you it certainly is stressful and competitive. Suicide seems to come out of nowhere, to the happiest seeming kids. And I also thought I should clarify for those of you wondering, in fairfax station because it is so far away many students are up at that hour. It is a 30 minute drive to Woodson and some students are on busses prior to 6am. While we truly have no idea why Jack is gone, all we can do is show our support to the family and friends of this bright, amazing young man. Please wear purple in support of Jack tomorrow.

Could it be psychotropic drugs? Those are known to increase suicide probability in young adults

What about...? Wrote:
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> Could it be psychotropic drugs? Those are known to
> increase suicide probability in young adults


Most of my acid connects do go to Woodson...

Psycotropics are prescription drugs used to treat depression, anxiety, etc.

What about...? Wrote:
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> Psycotropics are prescription drugs used to treat
> depression, anxiety, etc.


Off that lean... though it said something else.

My x bar connects do go to Woodson...

Stabitha Wrote:
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> Why would he do any homework, according to him he
> already got into UVA and Northwestern?
>
> You can always tell you are dealing with a dolt
> when they start bragging about their grades and
> what schools they bought their way into.


Or their new 2014 S-Class

NiggerPlease Wrote:
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> Stabitha Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Why would he do any homework, according to him
> he
> > already got into UVA and Northwestern?
> >
> > You can always tell you are dealing with a dolt
> > when they start bragging about their grades and
> > what schools they bought their way into.
>
>
> Or their new 2014 S-Class


#firstworldproblems

i know why Wrote:
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> What about...? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Could it be psychotropic drugs? Those are known
> to
> > increase suicide probability in young adults
>
>
> Most of my acid connects do go to Woodson...


Suuuure they do. There's no acid here, or what you are calling acid is not really acid.

SuperNiggr Wrote:
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> i know why Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > What about...? Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Could it be psychotropic drugs? Those are
> known
> > to
> > > increase suicide probability in young adults
> >
> >
> > Most of my acid connects do go to Woodson...
>
>
> Suuuure they do. There's no acid here, or what you
> are calling acid is not really acid.


LUlz what makes you say that? We have a good amount of acid in this area... the real stuff too. Too strong for me sometimes, TBH. 1 tab and im uncomfortably tripping ballz

I be singin that "come here to where when lingers" shit like my main bitch Kate Bush

Before....none.

Since???????

Anti-male

Come on. He was like this as assistant. Fucking young men left and right. One strike, you're out. Go to LB or Rb. Take any in???? Never.

Any other school like this? LB? rob? Right next door????????????

Stats don't lie. WTF? Yost and his parental mafia need to go. The statement above is by them.

Putin of FCPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You honestly think people are going to be nice on an anonymous website you are a fucking idiot. Grow up stop worrying about yourselves people at woodson have severely low self esteem issues. To kill yourself is a SELFISH ACT nobody grieving. Why dont you do something useful and smoke more weed in high school and y'all wouldn't have this problem

i know why Wrote:
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> What about...? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Could it be psychotropic drugs? Those are known
> to
> > increase suicide probability in young adults
>
>
> Most of my acid connects do go to Woodson...

"connect" for "acid" "woodson" Three words that do not go together there are 0 dead heads at woodson you get some fake shit from a senior paying 15 a tab for some RC shit. LOL there hasnt been any pure acid so boost all you want about some random research chem you ingest

MUSH BRAIN Wrote:
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> i know why Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > What about...? Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Could it be psychotropic drugs? Those are
> known
> > to
> > > increase suicide probability in young adults
> >
> >
> > Most of my acid connects do go to Woodson...
>
> "connect" for "acid" "woodson" Three words that do
> not go together there are 0 dead heads at woodson
> you get some fake shit from a senior paying 15 a
> tab for some RC shit. LOL there hasnt been any
> pure acid so boost all you want about some random
> research chem you ingest

You can't even write a complete sentence with nouns, verbs, and proper tense. Maybe drugs are not for you...

mush brain Wrote:
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> You honestly think people are going to be nice on
> an anonymous website you are a fucking idiot. Grow
> up stop worrying about yourselves people at
> woodson have severely low self esteem issues. To
> kill yourself is a SELFISH ACT nobody grieving.
> Why dont you do something useful and smoke more
> weed in high school and y'all wouldn't have this
> problem

Well, whatever tab I'm getting, its doing the job and some.

$15 per tab of acid is not unheard of around here, though $10 per tab is my limit. $5 per tab and below, is usually crappy shit. Ill pay for quality any day. This is Fairfax$$$$ after all, we are used to paying a premium.

In my experience

Richmond - $4 - $10 per tab

Fairfax - $8 - $20 per tab

no one does acid anymore it's all about 2-C A through Z!

Stop making hateful comments. I knew Jack when we were younger, and its heartbreaking because he was so young. RIP Jack

Well said

For you negative,evil people on here,do not think for a minute that you are not being watched. Sure there is freedom of speech, but freedom of speech, can also be used as evidence against you.

fed Wrote:
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> For you negative,evil people on here,do not think
> for a minute that you are not being watched. Sure
> there is freedom of speech, but freedom of speech,
> can also be used as evidence against you.

Evidence in regards to what? No crime has been broken.

mwTJ3 Wrote:
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> fed Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > For you negative,evil people on here,do not
> think
> > for a minute that you are not being watched.
> Sure
> > there is freedom of speech, but freedom of
> speech,
> > can also be used as evidence against you.
>
> Evidence in regards to what? No crime has been
> broken.

*Correction*

Evidence in regards to what? No "law" has been broken. Last time I heard suicide was a crime.

Dammit, Jack owed me $50. Now I'll never see my money.

Angry Person Wrote:
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> In my opinion this website is extremely repulsive.
> So many people just talking trash about one
> another, having no remorse or proof of the
> allegations being made. This site is filled with
> people who have nothing better to do than hurt
> other from behind a computer screen. Why this
> should be a website about helping others and
> passing information around a community not a war
> zone where people put other people on trial and
> say horrible things about people. This is no
> better than cyber bullying except the anonymous
> names prevent you form having to reveal who they
> are. This is like a middle school where people do
> nothing but start rumors about others to hurt
> peoples feelings.
>
> I hope that you read this message and think,
> about your future activity and really only present
> information that is factual and helpful to others
> in the northern Virginia area. Put yourself in the
> person your about to hurt before you post your
> message.

If this website is so bad then don't look at it. Dip shit

fed Wrote:
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> For you negative,evil people on here,do not think
> for a minute that you are not being watched. Sure
> there is freedom of speech, but freedom of speech,
> can also be used as evidence against you.

Well because suicide usually involves the deceased there is no evidence against someone else. You can say what you want but since you didn't commit homicide you aren't part of the "crime."

Stabitha argued with teenagers and had his ass handed to him.
Very mature individual.
He really must be a pedophile.

fed Wrote:
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> For you negative,evil people on here,do not think
> for a minute that you are not being watched. Sure
> there is freedom of speech, but freedom of speech,
> can also be used as evidence against you.

The only crime committed here is that a bright young student was failed by his friends and family. Where were you when this guy was alive and hurting? Where was all this support then? The answer? You were nowhere to be found and now want to blame a website for YOUR failures.

Bigfoot Wrote:
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> Transplant Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > This is a tragic thing; his friends and family
> > will forever ask why. Kid was well liked and a
> > football player.
> >
> > For one of the nations wealthiest and best
> > educated counties, I am dumbfounded by the
> inane
> > comments of many posters. Can tolerate it for
> > topics like Bigfoot and girls basketball but
> not
> > for loss of life, especially so young.
>
> I resent this remark Human, after all it was one
> of your retarded spawn that ran in front of the
> train this time, not one of us. So keep me the
> fuck out of your conversation and stay the fuck
> out of my woods!


God I wish there was some way to show my appreciation for this.

One day it will happen to you Wrote:
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> One day someone you love will die too.


It's already happened to me five times over, sweetie; the only difference is I don't seek sympathy or go posting for attention over it on anonymous, public forums...

Que? Wrote:
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> However, if you're coming on here looking for
> commiseration or an outlet for your feelings
> you're very much in the wrong place and a bit
> stupid yourself.
>
> That said, it would probably be best to stop
> complaining about the insensitivity of an
> anonymous message board and start figuring out why
> your students are finding life unlivable and
> choosing to off themselves at an alarming rate.
> What is happening with these kids that is so bad?
>
>
> There wasnt a single suicide at my high school in
> the mid 90's (gasp!), nor do i remember hearing of
> one at any other local school.


Right? I graduated early, early 2000s and this shit was UNHEARD of. It wasn't until like 5 years after I graduated that kids at my alma mater started offing themselves. They suffered 5 suicides in one year once.

Sad Day for All Wrote:
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> Stabitha argued with teenagers and had his ass
> handed to him.
> Very mature individual.
> He really must be a pedophile.


Only a teenager would think Stabby had his ass handed to him. An adult would see Stabby won.

thisisajokeright Wrote:
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> Bigfoot Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Transplant Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > This is a tragic thing; his friends and
> family
> > > will forever ask why. Kid was well liked and
> a
> > > football player.
> > >
> > > For one of the nations wealthiest and best
> > > educated counties, I am dumbfounded by the
> > inane
> > > comments of many posters. Can tolerate it for
> > > topics like Bigfoot and girls basketball but
> > not
> > > for loss of life, especially so young.
> >
> > I resent this remark Human, after all it was
> one
> > of your retarded spawn that ran in front of the
> > train this time, not one of us. So keep me the
> > fuck out of your conversation and stay the fuck
> > out of my woods!
>
>
> God I wish there was some way to show my
> appreciation for this.

http://carmichaellynch.com/project/sasquatch-in-the-middle/

It's probably asking too much, but could even one family of a suicide victim publicize the "why" of the act? It might facilitate discussions that could prevent a future one. You never hear anything about the "why" aspect of suicides. Was the person depressed? Gay? Isolated? On drugs? Family problems? Bullying? Failed a test? Rejected from Harvard? While it's certainly extremely painful, it'd be nice if families were willing to share so others might learn and save some other life.

Is principal Yost failing WTW students? Should he resign?

thisisajokeright Wrote:
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> fourlegs Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Shut the fuck up this isn't a joke. This kid
> died
> > early and when he shouldn't have.
>
>
> He also shouldn't have tied up the morning commute
> for close to 5000 people, so...


YOU ARE SO MOTHERFUCKING INSENSITIVE!! He was my friend. I'm sorry his DEATH tied up your MORNING COMMUTE YOU IMMATURE INSENSITIVE DICK!

Screw you Wrote:
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> thisisajokeright Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > fourlegs Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Shut the fuck up this isn't a joke. This kid
> > died
> > > early and when he shouldn't have.
> >
> >
> > He also shouldn't have tied up the morning
> commute
> > for close to 5000 people, so...
>
>
> YOU ARE SO MOTHERFUCKING INSENSITIVE!! He was my
> friend. I'm sorry his DEATH tied up your MORNING
> COMMUTE YOU IMMATURE INSENSITIVE DICK!

Actually, I drive in, so it didn't screw up anything for me, thank God. Though, traffic was a little heavy yesterday :/

fed Wrote:
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> For you negative,evil people on here,do not think
> for a minute that you are not being watched. Sure
> there is freedom of speech, but freedom of speech,
> can also be used as evidence



Oh I forgot IM sorry Mr. Officer please dont prosecute me when you have no feasible evidence. Maybe you should do your job and actually prosecute criminals commuting crimes.. our taxpayer money shouldn't be going to you sitting on your ass monitoring a forum

MUSH BRAIN Wrote:
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> fed Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > For you negative,evil people on here,do not
> think
> > for a minute that you are not being watched.
> Sure
> > there is freedom of speech, but freedom of
> speech,
> > can also be used as evidence
>
>
>
> Oh I forgot IM sorry Mr. Officer please dont
> prosecute me when you have no feasible evidence.
> Maybe you should do your job and actually
> prosecute criminals commuting crimes.. our
> taxpayer money shouldn't be going to you sitting
> on your ass monitoring a forum

LOL what would we get in trouble for? Offending someone?

mush brain Wrote:
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> You honestly think people are going to be nice on
> an anonymous website you are a fucking idiot. Grow
> up stop worrying about yourselves people at
> woodson have severely low self esteem issues. To
> kill yourself is a SELFISH ACT nobody grieving.
> Why dont you do something useful and smoke more
> weed in high school and y'all wouldn't have this
> problem

Suicide isn't a selfish act, it takes IMMENSE courage. What is selfish and stupid are the people who PUSHED HIM TO IT. And weed actually lowers some hormone balances and CAUSES depression/anxiety. So STFU you have no idea what you're doing.

Jack chen is a punk mother fucking piece of shit.

Screw you Wrote:
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> mush brain Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You honestly think people are going to be nice
> on
> > an anonymous website you are a fucking idiot.
> Grow
> > up stop worrying about yourselves people at
> > woodson have severely low self esteem issues.
> To
> > kill yourself is a SELFISH ACT nobody grieving.
> > Why dont you do something useful and smoke more
> > weed in high school and y'all wouldn't have
> this
> > problem
>
> Suicide isn't a selfish act, it takes IMMENSE
> courage. What is selfish and stupid are the people
> who PUSHED HIM TO IT. And weed actually lowers
> some hormone balances and CAUSES
> depression/anxiety. So STFU you have no idea what
> you're doing.


Hey someone watch this poster -- this could possibly be slander/defamation or whatever if the decedent didn't smoke pot...

Hahah that kid was like i made something of my self i 'got into' uva and nw. Haha hell be back here after he drops out come second semester. Getting into school doesnt proove shit its what you do with your time. Ive got enough time to sit around a computer while my investments pay me! Good luck trying to invest when youre paying for your framed toilet paper. Now go spend the next four hours flipping pages, get real good at it: in about 5 years those will be bills youre thumbing through.

Attn Woodson Students: If you want to help, say what he was on.

If you know - what drugs/medication did he take?

Be helpful. Save the next life.

I don't know the student - could be he was on nothing.

> Suicide isn't a selfish act, it takes IMMENSE
> courage. What is selfish and stupid are the people
> who PUSHED HIM TO IT. And weed actually lowers
> some hormone balances and CAUSES
> depression/anxiety. So STFU you have no idea what
> you're doing.

It takes immense courage to run in from of train knowing you are copping out on a "good" life? You are an idiot..... he isn't starving, he goes to a good school.. how is that courage at the end of the day nobody can make you do anything, you cant make excuses for your own actions..Weed counter acts depression and anxiety relieving stress the same as 3 or 4 beers would. Providing a more natural high unlike alchol a posion that can kill you in excess... Likewise you have no idea what you are talking about you are probably a parent who grew up in the 80s when Reagent you used propaganda because DRUGS ARE BAD with no scientific research to back up his claim

Screw you Wrote:
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> >
> Suicide isn't a selfish act, it takes IMMENSE
> courage. What is selfish and stupid are the people
> who PUSHED HIM TO IT.


You are 100% wrong on this. Suicide is the ultimate act of a coward. You cant face your problems or your issues and ways to solve them, so you just take yourself out of the game. It's a selfish act as well because it causes immense feelings of guilt and other problems for family and friends. They are left to pick up the pieces you leave.

God bless and goodbye dear Jack.
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My sympathies to those he left behind.I'm not inclined to analyze his decision. I support a persons right to make decisions. No doubt he was in pain and took the path that made the most sense to him. Who am I to question that? I admire his commitment. To step in front of a train you actually have to step in front of a train. Wrap you're mind around that. May he rest in peace.

... Wrote:
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> While we truly have no idea why Jack is gone,

My guess is because he stepped in front of a moving train. Yours?

Screw you Wrote:
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> YOU ARE SO MOTHERFUCKING INSENSITIVE!! He was my
> friend. I'm sorry his DEATH tied up your MORNING
> COMMUTE YOU IMMATURE INSENSITIVE DICK!

I had to charge against my vacation time for hours I lost! Somebody fucking owes me! Anybody have the family's phone number?

Bottom Line Wrote:
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> It's probably asking too much, but could even one
> family of a suicide victim publicize the "why" of
> the act? It might facilitate discussions that
> could prevent a future one. You never hear
> anything about the "why" aspect of suicides. Was
> the person depressed? Gay? Isolated? On drugs?
> Family problems? Bullying? Failed a test?
> Rejected from Harvard? While it's certainly
> extremely painful, it'd be nice if families were
> willing to share so others might learn and save
> some other life.

I'll bite. My brother died by suicide. He had a lot of pressure in his life - an unstable and verbally abusive wife, money challenges, a very needy and difficult elderly mother, a stressful job, a new baby. But he didn't die because of these pressures. He died because of the disease of bipolar disorder, which, for lack of a better explanation, had been in remission for many years. When his symptoms were under control, he could manage all of those external pressures and find the joy and satisfaction in life. But then his brain went haywire and he really wasn't thinking rationally or acting predictably at all. He went through a phase of classic mania followed by weeks of depression, but then he seemed to be pulling himself out of the depression and functioning again. But it turned out he was in a "mixed manic" state -- irrationally impulsive and overwhelmingly despairing. He was a planner and a meticulous "to do" list keeper and a writer, but he made no plan and he left no note. He just shot himself. I truly believe he had no long term intention to die - his brain just went haywire and he lacked the brain power to stop himself from following a fleeting impulse to kill himself.

In every case of death by suicide that I am personally familiar with, the victim actually died from either the disease of depression or the disease of bipolar disorder, both medical conditions that can be treatable but are difficult to treat, especially with such a stigma against mental illness. It is easy to blame stress or cruel people (my brother's life was made miserable at times by both), but my brother was a strong and good man who - when mentally healthy - was able to deal with those stressors. It was the disease that killed him. I don't blame them for his death, but I do blame them for making his life miserable at times.

Condolences to Jack Chen's friends and family.

http://www.afsp.org/preventing-suicide/find-help

Bottom Line Wrote:
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> It's probably asking too much, but could even one
> family of a suicide victim publicize the "why" of
> the act? It might facilitate discussions that
> could prevent a future one. You never hear
> anything about the "why" aspect of suicides. Was
> the person depressed? Gay? Isolated? On drugs?
> Family problems? Bullying? Failed a test?
> Rejected from Harvard? While it's certainly
> extremely painful, it'd be nice if families were
> willing to share so others might learn and save
> some other life.

This...

.
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Stabitha Wrote:
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> Screw you Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > >
> > Suicide isn't a selfish act, it takes IMMENSE
> > courage. What is selfish and stupid are the
> people
> > who PUSHED HIM TO IT.
>
>
> You are 100% wrong on this. Suicide is the
> ultimate act of a coward. You cant face your
> problems or your issues and ways to solve them, so
> you just take yourself out of the game. It's a
> selfish act as well because it causes immense
> feelings of guilt and other problems for family
> and friends. They are left to pick up the pieces
> you leave.

The vast majority of people who die by suicide are ill. Suicide is a symptom of an uncontrolled potentially deadly disease - depression, suicide, or schizophrenia, typically. People who suffer from those diseases did not ask for them and are not selfish for suffering from them. A symptom of those diseases is sometimes the kind of pain that renders a person unable to see beyond their own pain. It is not a character flaw. It is an illness. People who have died by suicide deserve our compassion, not our condemnation, as do the people who are valiantly fighting to stay alive despite suicidal thoughts or feelings.

Survivor Wrote:
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> Bottom Line Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > It's probably asking too much, but could even
> one
> > family of a suicide victim publicize the "why"
> of
> > the act? It might facilitate discussions that
> > could prevent a future one. You never hear
> > anything about the "why" aspect of suicides.
> Was
> > the person depressed? Gay? Isolated? On
> drugs?
> > Family problems? Bullying? Failed a test?
> > Rejected from Harvard? While it's certainly
> > extremely painful, it'd be nice if families
> were
> > willing to share so others might learn and save
> > some other life.
>
> I'll bite. My brother died by suicide. He had a
> lot of pressure in his life - an unstable and
> verbally abusive wife, money challenges, a very
> needy and difficult elderly mother, a stressful
> job, a new baby. But he didn't die because of
> these pressures. He died because of the disease
> of bipolar disorder, which, for lack of a better
> explanation, had been in remission for many years.
> When his symptoms were under control, he could
> manage all of those external pressures and find
> the joy and satisfaction in life. But then his
> brain went haywire and he really wasn't thinking
> rationally or acting predictably at all. He went
> through a phase of classic mania followed by weeks
> of depression, but then he seemed to be pulling
> himself out of the depression and functioning
> again. But it turned out he was in a "mixed
> manic" state -- irrationally impulsive and
> overwhelmingly despairing. He was a planner and a
> meticulous "to do" list keeper and a writer, but
> he made no plan and he left no note. He just shot
> himself. I truly believe he had no long term
> intention to die - his brain just went haywire and
> he lacked the brain power to stop himself from
> following a fleeting impulse to kill himself.
>
> In every case of death by suicide that I am
> personally familiar with, the victim actually died
> from either the disease of depression or the
> disease of bipolar disorder, both medical
> conditions that can be treatable but are difficult
> to treat, especially with such a stigma against
> mental illness. It is easy to blame stress or
> cruel people (my brother's life was made miserable
> at times by both), but my brother was a strong and
> good man who - when mentally healthy - was able to
> deal with those stressors. It was the disease
> that killed him. I don't blame them for his
> death, but I do blame them for making his life
> miserable at times.
>
> Condolences to Jack Chen's friends and family.
>
> http://www.afsp.org/preventing-suicide/find-help

To follow up, since you asked about what people can do to help - decreasing the stigma about mental illness is a huge thing. My brother did not want people to know that he had bipolar disorder; he felt acutely the stigma against people taking medication for mental illnesses and saw it as a weakness. Medicine would have saved his life, at least for a while, as it did in his 20's.

We also need major changes in medical treatment for mental illness. We tried to get my brother held twice for being a risk to himself, but he was discharged shortly after being admitted. If they were able to hold him for 72 hours, he might have stabilized enough to be convinced to try medication again. But he saw such shame and defeat in it that he refused. If he was in his right mind, he would have known that medicine was preferable to death -- he knew that for most of his adult life, while his brain was functioning properly. But just as a kidney can go haywire, so can the brain, and I wish medical professionals and family members had more leeway in treating people whose diseased brains think they don't need treatment.

Survivor Wrote:
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> I'll bite. My brother died by suicide. He had a
> lot of pressure in his life - an unstable and
> verbally abusive wife, money challenges, a very
> needy and difficult elderly mother, a stressful
> job, a new baby. But he didn't die because of
> these pressures. He died because of the disease
> of bipolar disorder, which, for lack of a better
> explanation, had been in remission for many years.
> When his symptoms were under control, he could
> manage all of those external pressures and find
> the joy and satisfaction in life. But then his
> brain went haywire and he really wasn't thinking
> rationally or acting predictably at all. He went
> through a phase of classic mania followed by weeks
> of depression, but then he seemed to be pulling
> himself out of the depression and functioning
> again. But it turned out he was in a "mixed
> manic" state -- irrationally impulsive and
> overwhelmingly despairing. He was a planner and a
> meticulous "to do" list keeper and a writer, but
> he made no plan and he left no note. He just shot
> himself. I truly believe he had no long term
> intention to die - his brain just went haywire and
> he lacked the brain power to stop himself from
> following a fleeting impulse to kill himself.
>
> In every case of death by suicide that I am
> personally familiar with, the victim actually died
> from either the disease of depression or the
> disease of bipolar disorder, both medical
> conditions that can be treatable but are difficult
> to treat, especially with such a stigma against
> mental illness. It is easy to blame stress or
> cruel people (my brother's life was made miserable
> at times by both), but my brother was a strong and
> good man who - when mentally healthy - was able to
> deal with those stressors. It was the disease
> that killed him. I don't blame them for his
> death, but I do blame them for making his life
> miserable at times.

So what you're saying is that it's nature's way of thinning the herd, right?

Survivor Wrote:
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> Survivor Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Bottom Line Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > It's probably asking too much, but could even
> > one
> > > family of a suicide victim publicize the
> "why"
> > of
> > > the act? It might facilitate discussions
> that
> > > could prevent a future one. You never hear
> > > anything about the "why" aspect of suicides.
> > Was
> > > the person depressed? Gay? Isolated? On
> > drugs?
> > > Family problems? Bullying? Failed a test?
> > > Rejected from Harvard? While it's certainly
> > > extremely painful, it'd be nice if families
> > were
> > > willing to share so others might learn and
> save
> > > some other life.
> >
> > I'll bite. My brother died by suicide. He had
> a
> > lot of pressure in his life - an unstable and
> > verbally abusive wife, money challenges, a very
> > needy and difficult elderly mother, a stressful
> > job, a new baby. But he didn't die because of
> > these pressures. He died because of the
> disease
> > of bipolar disorder, which, for lack of a
> better
> > explanation, had been in remission for many
> years.
> > When his symptoms were under control, he could
> > manage all of those external pressures and find
> > the joy and satisfaction in life. But then his
> > brain went haywire and he really wasn't
> thinking
> > rationally or acting predictably at all. He
> went
> > through a phase of classic mania followed by
> weeks
> > of depression, but then he seemed to be pulling
> > himself out of the depression and functioning
> > again. But it turned out he was in a "mixed
> > manic" state -- irrationally impulsive and
> > overwhelmingly despairing. He was a planner and
> a
> > meticulous "to do" list keeper and a writer,
> but
> > he made no plan and he left no note. He just
> shot
> > himself. I truly believe he had no long term
> > intention to die - his brain just went haywire
> and
> > he lacked the brain power to stop himself from
> > following a fleeting impulse to kill himself.
> >
> > In every case of death by suicide that I am
> > personally familiar with, the victim actually
> died
> > from either the disease of depression or the
> > disease of bipolar disorder, both medical
> > conditions that can be treatable but are
> difficult
> > to treat, especially with such a stigma against
> > mental illness. It is easy to blame stress or
> > cruel people (my brother's life was made
> miserable
> > at times by both), but my brother was a strong
> and
> > good man who - when mentally healthy - was able
> to
> > deal with those stressors. It was the disease
> > that killed him. I don't blame them for his
> > death, but I do blame them for making his life
> > miserable at times.
> >
> > Condolences to Jack Chen's friends and family.
>
> >
> >
> http://www.afsp.org/preventing-suicide/find-help
>
> To follow up, since you asked about what people
> can do to help - decreasing the stigma about
> mental illness is a huge thing. My brother did
> not want people to know that he had bipolar
> disorder; he felt acutely the stigma against
> people taking medication for mental illnesses and
> saw it as a weakness. Medicine would have saved
> his life, at least for a while, as it did in his
> 20's.
>
> We also need major changes in medical treatment
> for mental illness. We tried to get my brother
> held twice for being a risk to himself, but he was
> discharged shortly after being admitted. If they
> were able to hold him for 72 hours, he might have
> stabilized enough to be convinced to try
> medication again. But he saw such shame and
> defeat in it that he refused. If he was in his
> right mind, he would have known that medicine was
> preferable to death -- he knew that for most of
> his adult life, while his brain was functioning
> properly. But just as a kidney can go haywire, so
> can the brain, and I wish medical professionals
> and family members had more leeway in treating
> people whose diseased brains think they don't need
> treatment.

Thanks for your post. I'm sure some idiots will respond in ways meant to be offensive, which makes your willingness to share all the more touching.

You know what?. All of you little assholes think you can go making fun of the death of another human being. I bet not a single one of you know the stress of trying to accomplish something in life. You can sit behind a computer and act all tough when in reality you'll all just scrawny little children. Grow up. You wanna know why there's so many suicides at woodson? because it's a school where there actually is importance on getting good grades and making something of yourselves. You have no importance in your lives and have no sense of responsibility. Regardless if it was suicide or not, the stress of that responsibility of making something out of yourselves is something we can relate to. So why don't you all try to be somewhat civil or at least sociable acceptable when it comes to something like this. It's the death of a person. Maybe you didn't know him, but im sure your ghetto asses can relate because judging from your behavior on this, one of your little thug of friends must have had close calls with death. i suggest you shut up. grow up. and they to stop living the lives of primates.

i know why Wrote:
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> The weed nowadays is very strong, and high in THC
> and cannabinoids.
>
> If anyone here smokes weed everyday for say, 6
> months straight. I can almost guarantee you will
> be depressed, or suffer from some sort of mental
> health problem.
>
>
> God damn kids nowadays need to drop that GMO weed
> and stick with the good ole reggie. That or steal
> your parents liquor.


Citation needed.
It's ok, I'll wait

Bottom Line Wrote:
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> It's probably asking too much, but could even one
> family of a suicide victim publicize the "why" of
> the act? It might facilitate discussions that
> could prevent a future one. You never hear
> anything about the "why" aspect of suicides. Was
> the person depressed? Gay? Isolated? On drugs?
> Family problems? Bullying? Failed a test?
> Rejected from Harvard? While it's certainly
> extremely painful, it'd be nice if families were
> willing to share so others might learn and save
> some other life.

Why would someone who is isolated off themselves?!

I leave my condo once every 2 weeks to go to the grocery store, and i fuckin love it!!!!!!

Gay? They are happy!! I love dicks mmmkay!

Failed tests or Harvard rejection... Doubtful.

I would say Bullying, Drugs, or Family problems.

whs student Wrote:
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> I am appalled at the extreme negativity on this
> thread. We are talking about a human life here and
> all you people care about is how long your commute
> took...
>
> I'm severely questioning how humans can be so
> inhumane...
>
> Rip Jack


What you are reading are the words of cowards. They feelin enabled when they hide behind a made up screen name.

How do you guys know it was a suicide? He could have mearly been trying to see if he could run faster than a train.

For the sake of thousands of commuters why don't they investigate train hits after rush hour? Send 1 emergency personnel person to the victim and if they have succumbed to injury and if so leave and come back when things are not so busy? I don't think much would change if they were to wait a little bit right?

"You know what?. All of you little assholes think you can go making fun of the death of another human being. I bet not a single one of you know the stress of trying to accomplish something in life. You can sit behind a computer and act all tough when in reality you'll all just scrawny little children. Grow up. You wanna know why there's so many suicides at woodson? because it's a school where there actually is importance on getting good grades and making something of yourselves. You have no importance in your lives and have no sense of responsibility. Regardless if it was suicide or not, the stress of that responsibility of making something out of yourselves is something we can relate to. So why don't you all try to be somewhat civil or at least sociable acceptable when it comes to something like this. It's the death of a person. Maybe you didn't know him, but im sure your ghetto asses can relate because judging from your behavior on this, one of your little thug of friends must have had close calls with death. i suggest you shut up. grow up. and they to stop living the lives of primates."


See you miss the whole point. The people who are naturally more intelligent are going to be more successful than a person who slaves for good grades. The College you go to doesn't determine your success and Woodson tries to stress that Colleges determine your success which isn't true at all. Also graduating Woodson isn't an accomplishment.

It's not an esteem high school that you try to make it out to be

Woodson has a problem the administration should be fired and Principle Yost has to go he's terrible and has lead woodson into the wrong dirrection.

Woodson Student. Wrote:
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> You wanna know why
> there's so many suicides at woodson? because it's
> a school where there actually is importance on
> getting good grades and making something of
> yourselves. You have no importance in your lives
> and have no sense of responsibility.

So what good is there to have a school that pushes people into suicide? All the A's and scholarships and awards dont mean shit if you off yourself at 15.

The photos posted on this site it not Jack Chen.

Hey you! Outta the gene pool!

This morning there was another suicide of a Woodson Student. I won't post his name as it is not my place to do so. But I can tell you he was a nice kid, popular and did not do drugs or drink. 2 kids in 1 week, something is seriously wrong.

Did he have a prescription for adderall? I do not know these kids personally but all things they may have in common need to be looked at.

My daughter, a wtw grad from 6 yrs ago said, "Mom, parents are worring about the wrong stuff (alcohol, other known drugs) what they need to worry about is adderall"

yes there is abuse -kids using, getting it from others, use it occasionally, but I would worry most about those kids who have an actual prescription and have been taking it for many years.

And another today Wrote:
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> This morning there was another suicide of a
> Woodson Student. I won't post his name as it is
> not my place to do so. But I can tell you he was a
> nice kid, popular and did not do drugs or drink. 2
> kids in 1 week, something is seriously wrong.


It was Majid. 'Nuff said.

There is nothing wrong with Woodson our teachers and staff have done all they can to promote a safe environment. Me. yost is the best principle I could ever ask for and all of his efforts to brighten the students day are incredible. We have milk and cookies on Wednesday afternoons, no homework over winter break, and many more. The fact of the matter is that high school is a stressful time where teens believe their whole lives depend on these 4 years. I feel this way all the time. Constant pressure to succeed drives these kids to the edge not the school. This stress would be felt at many other schools across the nation and I'm not exactly sure why Woodson has so many because it is a great school and the student body is nothing but supportive. Just go on twitter, Facebook, or any social media and you will see this. I have a hug to someone I had never met at our basketball game today when I saw her crying. This school means a lot to so many and it is not woodsons fault that these tragedies occur. Rest in Peace jack and majid!

Parents & kids: PLEASE READ THIS:
A message to teenagers: It Really Does Get Better (http://totalsororitymove.com/a-message-to-teenagers-it-really-does-get-better/).

"There is nothing wrong with Woodson our teachers and staff have done all they can to promote a safe environment. Me. yost is the best principle I could ever ask for and all of his efforts to brighten the students day are incredible. We have milk and cookies on Wednesday afternoons, no homework over winter break, and many more. The fact of the matter is that high school is a stressful time where teens believe their whole lives depend on these 4 years. I feel this way all the time. Constant pressure to succeed drives these kids to the edge not the school. This stress would be felt at many other schools across the nation and I'm not exactly sure why Woodson has so many because it is a great school and the student body is nothing but supportive. Just go on twitter, Facebook, or any social media and "

Right......

Mr. Yost Stop posting here. It is not professional. Just like your job at WTW.

They need a change. Especially on top. Can we stand here and do nothing???

How long must this sh go on? It does not take a genius to figure out there is a problem but let's just forget and go on with our apathetic life. Remember, you can always fire the principle. Why not? Why not? Isn't another life worth saving?

In my opinion this website is extremely repulsive. So many people just talking trash about one another, having no remorse or proof of the allegations being made. This site is filled with people who have nothing better to do than hurt other from behind a computer screen. Why this should be a website about helping others and passing information around a community not a war zone where people put other people on trial and say horrible things about people. This is no better than cyber bullying except the anonymous names prevent you form having to reveal who they are. This is like a middle school where people do nothing but start rumors about others to hurt peoples feelings.

I hope that you read this message and think, about your future activity and really only present information that is factual and helpful to others in the northern Virginia area. Put yourself in the person your about to hurt before you post your message.

Long overdue for new leadership at Woodson. The School has created a failed climate that results in our children taking their lives. The School's leadership is a threat to the community and must not be allowed to continue to push this failed doctrine onto our kids. It is time for Woodson's leadership to accept responsibility. It is time for a culture change, which is best started at the top. Common thread is Woodson. Loyalty to leadership is the right thing to do if the leadership is sound, not so in the case. WE DEMAND CHANGE!!!!

Angry Person! Wrote:
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> In my opinion this website is extremely repulsive.
> So many people just talking trash about one
> another, having no remorse or proof of the
> allegations being made. This site is filled with
> people who have nothing better to do than hurt
> other from behind a computer screen. Why this
> should be a website about helping others and
> passing information around a community not a war
> zone where people put other people on trial and
> say horrible things about people. This is no
> better than cyber bullying except the anonymous
> names prevent you form having to reveal who they
> are. This is like a middle school where people do
> nothing but start rumors about others to hurt
> peoples feelings.
>

So why are you here so much?

Look at this remark from the Washington Post comments section...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/fairfax-teen-fatally-struck-by-vre-train-some-service-canceled/2014/02/26/8ebc813c-9eff-11e3-a050-dc3322a94fa7_allComments.html?ctab=all_&;

For all of you still in doubt: based on the most inside-information that I do know, it was indeed a suicide. Out of respect for the family and the many, many friends the boy had, I won't go into it. But it wasn't drugs. It's heartbreaking. I understand the frustration of the VRE commuting community about the delays. But please know that it's nothing compared to the grief being felt by all who knew him.

Hug your children, and stay attuned to what's going on in their lives, and be sensitive about the pressures they feel. They aren't always emotionally equipped to handle life's ups and downs.

WTW HAS TO CHANGE. Kids are dying like no other school. Start ASAP!!!!!

While I understand it's a difficult time for Woodson High School, I don't think teachers should be discussing God and religion. This is Mr. Blaylock, a young Spanish teacher. This was posted on YouTube and I think it's very inappropriate, but I hear that he acts totally inappropriate with all his students anyways. I am thinking about complaining to the Principal. Teachers should teach. End of story.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4ocYyqbz5M

If you complain to Yost your kid(s) will get kicked out.

My son has Mr. Blaylock, and thinks he's great.Son is struggling in the class, and Mr. Blaylock is almost always available to give extra help. Having a teacher that cares about his students is a good thing, not a bad thing!

WTParent Wrote:
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> While I understand it's a difficult time for
> Woodson High School, I don't think teachers should
> be discussing God and religion. This is Mr.
> Blaylock, a young Spanish teacher. This was posted
> on YouTube and I think it's very inappropriate,
> but I hear that he acts totally inappropriate with
> all his students anyways. I am thinking about
> complaining to the Principal. Teachers should
> teach. End of story.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4ocYyqbz5M

I would generally agree with you; however, that teacher is a young man who a lot of those kids could probably relate to and draw strength from. He was simply relaying his personal trials and saying that faith can help overcome adversity. He wasn't advocating for a particular religion - just faith in a higher power - and he wasn't being obnoxious about it.

A lot of depressed kids feel terribly alone. They need to hear that there is hope. If an authority figure can get that across in a way that kids can relate to, then I applaud this guy's willingness to put himself out there. Those kids probably learned a lot more that day than they would have from a language lesson.

I see nothing wrong with a teacher discussing his personal story, even if that makes reference to religion or faith. As long as he doesn't force the kids to pray or turn class into worship, there is no First Amendment violation. On the contrary, I applaud this teacher for making himself vulnerable and approachable to the kids. I wish there were more like him out there.

For all of you who do not know me, I am Principal Yost, I am reading through this forum and it saddens my how much distrust is labeled upon me from these concerned parents and students. I will say this once, and only once...Any slanderous or insulting comments about MY LEADERSHIP will be reported to all Fairfax Co Police Departments in the general area. I repeat, your child, I do not care if he/she is on honor-roll or is a scholar student who participates in sports/clubs, I will personally kick them out of my school and will make sure the parents suffer a similiar fate, I have connections and am a Very Powerful man, I suggest you all watch what you say on these forums, faculty members and school administration is VERY AWARE of who and what gets written on this site. I have friends in the Police Department and they can BACK TRACE your comments, so heed my warning, This is MY COUNTRY and my BEAUTIFUL STATE. Respect my Authority.

>>My son has Mr. Blaylock, and thinks he's great.Son is struggling in the class, and Mr. Blaylock is almost always available to give extra help. Having a teacher that cares about his students is a good thing, not a bad thing!>>

Yes, I hear he shows quite a bit of special interest in male students. You might want to keep your eye on that.

Last night Garza and staff held a community meeting at Woodson. There were about 1000 parents in attendence. The press was also there of course (they were the real audience). They spoke mostly plattitudes and acted like cheerleaders. Every parent (20+) I spoke with called it as bullshit. It was crap propaganda. Before this meeting I thought they cared, now I know all they care about is their jobs and reputation not the families of fairfax county. And many of the other parents there saw through the crap too. Woodson you stirred the hornet's nest.I hope you can harness the energy because it can be a dangerous adversary.

Are you nuts Wrote:
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> Last night Garza and staff held a community
> meeting at Woodson. There were about 1000 parents
> in attendence. The press was also there of course
> (they were the real audience). They spoke mostly
> plattitudes and acted like cheerleaders. Every
> parent (20+) I spoke with called it as bullshit.
> It was crap propaganda. Before this meeting I
> thought they cared, now I know all they care about
> is their jobs and reputation not the families of
> fairfax county. And many of the other parents
> there saw through the crap too. Woodson you
> stirred the hornet's nest.I hope you can harness
> the energy because it can be a dangerous
> adversary.

Wow. I was there too. Before this meeting I thought they all cared. Now I am convinced they care only about their jobs. They lost most if not all of their credibility. Many parents I talked to also were angry abot the waste of time the meeting was. Can't wait to be out of FCPS as soon as I can!

WTW Parent Wrote:
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> Are you nuts Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Last night Garza and staff held a community
> > meeting at Woodson. There were about 1000
> parents
> > in attendence. The press was also there of
> course
> > (they were the real audience). They spoke
> mostly
> > plattitudes and acted like cheerleaders. Every
> > parent (20+) I spoke with called it as
> bullshit.
> > It was crap propaganda. Before this meeting I
> > thought they cared, now I know all they care
> about
> > is their jobs and reputation not the families
> of
> > fairfax county. And many of the other parents
> > there saw through the crap too. Woodson you
> > stirred the hornet's nest.I hope you can
> harness
> > the energy because it can be a dangerous
> > adversary.
>
> Wow. I was there too. Before this meeting I
> thought they all cared. Now I am convinced they
> care only about their jobs. They lost most if not
> all of their credibility. Many parents I talked to
> also were angry abot the waste of time the meeting
> was. Can't wait to be out of FCPS as soon as I
> can!

Very sorry to hear this, I was hoping that some good action would come out of it.

Were we at the same meeting? I just don't understand some of you. It's like you're determined to make this Jeff Yost's fault, which I can understand, because we're all looking for an answer, but I think we've got the wrong target here. I'd like to see the school where the administration has that much influence. Kids are pushed by so many outside factors every day, and they seem less resilient than their parents were as teenagers. Why is that? what can we do to reach them? Those are the questions I think we should be asking.

This what I saw at the meeting.
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Another opinion Wrote:
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> Were we at the same meeting? I just don't
> understand some of you. It's like you're
> determined to make this Jeff Yost's fault, which I
> can understand, because we're all looking for an
> answer, but I think we've got the wrong target
> here. I'd like to see the school where the
> administration has that much influence. Kids are
> pushed by so many outside factors every day, and
> they seem less resilient than their parents were
> as teenagers. Why is that? what can we do to
> reach them? Those are the questions I think we
> should be asking.

I think Jeff Yost is great. But the school board and FCPS leadership are not worth much. About half the administration of WTW is good and half not so great. Every parent I spoke with volunteered they were not impressed and felt most of the meeting was a waste of time. Some of what you say about resilience is quite valid but there are too many things they need to be resilient from at school. Bullying is more prevalent than when we were in school and it gets more play from social media..it can go on forever.

Priapus Wrote:
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> This what I saw at the meeting.






You saw it too?

My wife and I went to the meeting too at WTW and also felt like we had been read a bunch of platitudes. Calm the sheep with caring buzz words. Both of us had bullshit meters pinging off the scale, except for the kids who spoke. They were earnest and sincere in their efforts but I have small hopes for their clubs success. What really pissed us off was none off the adult speakers had the balls to address the elephant in the room directly. So many deaths in such a short time, again only platitudes and oblique references to this valid concern were offered by these folks. BS. Who is going to refer their kid, and what kid will self refer when we all know how Fairfax loves to collect information on everyone? Would a self out familial referral for psych help follow a student in their records through school and on to college?

What's the elephant in the room? That some of our Woodson students have committed suicide? We already know that. It's really sad too, thank you. So what solution from the staff and admin are you looking for that you didn't hear at the meeting?

We pay Yost's salary? Are you kidding me. The writing was on the wall when he was an assistant.

You're an idiot on multiple levels.

No Mr. Yost, I am Father that saw what went at WTW if your kids were not in the bell curve or my wife did not have mild and cookies with you. My oldest went there. Younger two are going private. You get what you pay for. The only administrator I every saw that was more pompous, It's not about the kids, it's about my job was Dr. Benson at Olde Creek. What a bastard,

Billee Wrote:
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> No Mr. Yost, I am Father that saw what went at WTW
> if your kids were not in the bell curve or my wife
> did not have mild and cookies with you. My oldest
> went there. Younger two are going private. You
> get what you pay for. The only administrator I
> every saw that was more pompous, It's not about
> the kids, it's about my job was Dr. Benson at Olde
> Creek. What a bastard,


Do you mean she had "milk and cookies" or "mold and cookies"? Either one works, just looking for clarification.

We should get half of Yost's paycheck since he's only doing half his job. go let more kids die. Fucking Hitler of 2014. Kim Jong Un aint shit compaired to this fuckwad for a principal.

This is nothing new, when I went to this school we had more drug addicts than straight kids, it was all white (what a concept) and we only had one suicide in 4 years.

Back in the 80's the school had a problem with the girls being prosititues.

Also In my time we had an English teacher who liked boys, a coach who pushed steroids, a history teacher who had to use methadone because of heroin addiction, and drug dealing demerol pushing counsellors.

Of all of them, the history teacher was my favorite, he'd let us read magazines and we'd watch him nod out, we found out he was stealing fentanyl from his wifes anesthesia kit but when she had none, she would write him the methadone prn.

Kids are smart, if the teachers are bad, the kids know, that being said a molesting teacher isn't the cause.

Suicides at Woodson are tied to social cliques and the over emphasis placed on kids and their online (out of school) status, it's that simple.

School admins should install cell jammers on campus, it would alleviate the in-school pressure and allow kids to forget the internet for a while, of course jammers are illegal so it's not really possible.

Sad to see so many kids are killing themselves, personally I'm scared to die what the heck would make someone want to die early?? Possibly steroid rage, drug induced psychosis, or depression brought on by the aforemnetioned issues.

Be glad the school has not become "WT COLUMBINE", apparently Colorado has the murder issue topped while Woodson has the suicide issue held in high regards.

I've been told sucidal people are borderline with homicidal, the suicidal person thinks "Poor Me I can't take it" but the homicidal person thinks "Poor Me, that darn XXX caused this" and the XXX gets killed before the killer.

Whatever's going on, it needs to remain constant, please don't introduce reasoning into the equation, it would end in mass casualties if kids started to point fingers and we'd see "WT COLUMBINE" in the news.

On the issue of "Expsosure", Asbestos was present in the cafeteria and auto shop up until 1984, all the newly completed construction could indeed stir up some particles which escaped removal but it wouldn't create a suicide complex in any way shape or form, it would cause cancer but nobody will be able to trace it back.

R. Weaver Wrote:
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> This is nothing new, when I went to this school we
> had more drug addicts than straight kids, it was
> all white (what a concept) and we only had one
> suicide in 4 years.
>
> Back in the 80's the school had a problem with the
> girls being prosititues.
>
> Also In my time we had an English teacher who
> liked boys, a coach who pushed steroids, a history
> teacher who had to use methadone because of heroin
> addiction, and drug dealing demerol pushing
> counsellors.
>
> Of all of them, the history teacher was my
> favorite, he'd let us read magazines and we'd
> watch him nod out, we found out he was stealing
> fentanyl from his wifes anesthesia kit but when
> she had none, she would write him the methadone
> prn.
>
> Kids are smart, if the teachers are bad, the kids
> know, that being said a molesting teacher isn't
> the cause.
>
> Suicides at Woodson are tied to social cliques and
> the over emphasis placed on kids and their online
> (out of school) status, it's that simple.
>
> School admins should install cell jammers on
> campus, it would alleviate the in-school pressure
> and allow kids to forget the internet for a while,
> of course jammers are illegal so it's not really
> possible.
>
> Sad to see so many kids are killing themselves,
> personally I'm scared to die what the heck would
> make someone want to die early?? Possibly steroid
> rage, drug induced psychosis, or depression
> brought on by the aforemnetioned issues.
>
> Be glad the school has not become "WT COLUMBINE",
> apparently Colorado has the murder issue topped
> while Woodson has the suicide issue held in high
> regards.
>
> I've been told sucidal people are borderline with
> homicidal, the suicidal person thinks "Poor Me I
> can't take it" but the homicidal person thinks
> "Poor Me, that darn XXX caused this" and the XXX
> gets killed before the killer.
>
> Whatever's going on, it needs to remain constant,
> please don't introduce reasoning into the
> equation, it would end in mass casualties if kids
> started to point fingers and we'd see "WT
> COLUMBINE" in the news.
>
> On the issue of "Expsosure", Asbestos was present
> in the cafeteria and auto shop up until 1984, all
> the newly completed construction could indeed stir
> up some particles which escaped removal but it
> wouldn't create a suicide complex in any way shape
> or form, it would cause cancer but nobody will be
> able to trace it back.

Interesting insight - thank you.

I agree with you, totally: all boys, all in football team, I think...

I love your post, every word of it. Thank you!

fourlegs Wrote:
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> As I got on the bus to school there was something
> missing, the chatter, talking, and gossiping had
> all but ceased. There were high schoolers in the
> back sobbing and grieving. I didn't realize what
> had happened until someone had told me. Somebody
> killed himself.


The center will be waiting for you when spring break is over.

Uhhh...I attended Woodson in the late 80's....put down the crack pipe, it's causing you to have delusions.