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Fairfax County Police can spy on your cell phone calls/texts
Posted by: Edward Snowed-in ()
Date: February 21, 2014 12:42AM


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Re: Fairfax County Police can spy on your cell phone calls/texts
Posted by: EHXmj ()
Date: February 21, 2014 06:41AM

House bill seeks to limit police use of cell phone spying device
Warrants should be issued before use, says human rights group
http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/article/20140221/NEWS/140229771/1064/house-bill-seeks-to-limit-police-use-of-cell-phone-spying-device&template=fairfaxTimes

A bill that would prohibit police from using currently utilized mobile devices to spy on residents’ cellphone usage without first obtaining search warrants unanimously passed the Virginia House of Delegates and is on its way toward becoming law.

HB 17 passed 99-0 on Feb. 11 and is currently undergoing evaluation in the Virginia Senate’s Courts of Justice Committee.

If passed into law, the bill would, except under certain very narrow circumstances, prohibit the use of International Mobile Subscriber Identity catchers by police agencies such as the Fairfax County Police — who currently use them — without first obtaining a search warrant.

The devices, called “StingRays,” are manufactured by the Florida-based Harris Corporation, and are legally marketed to military and law enforcement as ways of “triangulating” the position of a cellphone user by mimicking a cellphone tower and tracking the location of that person’s cellphone signals.

But according to human rights groups such as the American Civil Liberties Union and the Electronic Privacy Information Center, the devices are capable of doing much more, such as intercepting phone calls and even text messages.

“That type of usage would be illegal,” said Alan Butler of EPIC. “But nonetheless, the capability is there.”

And that makes use of the devices without a search warrant a 4th Amendment issue, Butler says.

The Fourth Amendment precludes unreasonable searches and seizures of property and effects without a warrant defining a probable cause.

According to Fairfax County government documents, the Fairfax County Police Department has been using the devices for at least four years, but spokesperson Lucy Caldwell declined to comment on exactly how police use them, saying only that “the FCPD does not comment on our investigative tools, nor do we discuss investigative techniques or capabilities … however, our detectives and officers follow all state and federal legal requirements for the use of technologies that we do use.”

In a Fairfax County Board of Supervisors agenda dated Sept. 28, 2010, police state that use of the device is “used in conjunction with a court order, and the Fairfax County Police Department has been sponsored to use this tracking device through the U.S. Marshals Service.” In the same agenda, the department says it will use $126,661 of a federal grant to “enhance the StingRay cell phone tracking system,” which is “capable of locating and tracking cellular service whether or not a phone is transmitting. As long as the cellular phone is powered on, the StingRay is capable of locating it.”

In addition to tracking cellphone use for “crime victims, suspects of crimes, wanted persons, and those in need of emergency services,” police also state in the agenda that the StingRay device enhances “officer safety and allows the officers to stay in communication with each other during covert operations.”

Butler says not all uses of the device potentially conflict with the Fourth Amendment, but because the capability exists, warrants should first be issued.

“I am not saying they should never be used,” he said. “But at the same time, you should clearly be getting a warrant first.”

HB 17 lists four circumstances in which real-time location data could still be obtained by police without a warrant:

• To respond to a user’s call for emergency service;

• With the “informed affirmative consent” of the owner

• With the “informed affirmative consent” of the owner’s legal guardian or next of kin; and

• If there is an emergency involving danger to a person.

“It’s a powerful device and its use should be regulated,” Butler said. “With it in the wrong hands, a phone system can be hijacked without either the user or the phone company being aware.”

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Re: Fairfax County Police can spy on your cell phone calls/texts
Posted by: ETYtm ()
Date: February 21, 2014 07:01AM

Just remember, the Fairfax County Police Department is now a Democrat organization, run by and for Democrats.

And, one more thing. If a piece like this ran 10 years ago, some progressive would somehow work Bush into the commentary.

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Re: Fairfax County Police can spy on your cell phone calls/texts
Posted by: HAH ()
Date: February 21, 2014 09:34AM

Just like every other federal agency they need a search warrent to do that. and they have been able to to that for a long time.

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Re: Fairfax County Police can spy on your cell phone calls/texts
Posted by: Reality ()
Date: February 21, 2014 10:11AM

"Fairfax County Police can spy on your cell phone calls/texts"

No, they can't. It's technology that is clearly over the OP's (and the VA legislature) head, so of course everyone has to be worked up into a stupid frenzy...

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Re: Fairfax County Police can spy on your cell phone calls/texts
Posted by: Jimbo ()
Date: February 21, 2014 02:53PM

Barney Fife, Mutha Fukka...One Mutha Fukkin bullet to the head. Bullet to the head...

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Re: Fairfax County Police can spy on your cell phone calls/texts
Posted by: Asshole Alert ()
Date: February 21, 2014 03:03PM

ETYtm Wrote:
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> Just remember, the Fairfax County Police
> Department is now a Democrat organization, run by
> and for Democrats.

Does someone think that the Sheriff is in charge of FCPD?

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Re: Fairfax County Police can spy on your cell phone calls/texts
Posted by: Asshole Alert ()
Date: February 21, 2014 03:07PM

Reality Wrote:
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> No, they can't. It's technology that is clearly
> over the OP's (and the VA legislature) head,

So is the mystery of how Lego blocks stick together. Never underestimate the levels of sheer stupidity that a determined group of assholes can reach.

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Re: Fairfax County Police can spy on your cell phone calls/texts
Posted by: 99tUx99tUx ()
Date: February 22, 2014 11:05PM

if a bill is being looked at that prevents access that assumes they have legal access. which presumes they passed a law they did

but the never did they're just fucking liars getting funding for it who never had permission

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the bill won't pass they'll then report based on the fact it didn't pass it must already be law they had the right

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how many logical fallicies did you count above? do you know their names?

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Re: Fairfax County Police can spy on your cell phone calls/texts
Posted by: jh3L4jh3L4 ()
Date: February 22, 2014 11:09PM

they warned you on tv. telephone calls can and are recorded. they are stored as text, they convert your voice for "efficient storage", pretty high tech huh ? and they'll use it in court.

in FL they caught some cheating prosecutor falsifying internet and phone records to get a win in court, hoping she'd get a raise. but defense, not hired by gov, caught on to her and prosecuted her for cheating the court

they've been tellin the public this since ... the 80's for god sakes. it's not new news.

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i say shit on the phone or internet in part because i hope i they say something so i catch anyone who migth be listening in when they have no warrant and who comes forward

at which point i'd get a mallot and put it to their equipment for mis-use

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Re: Fairfax County Police can spy on your cell phone calls/texts
Posted by: N9n6D ()
Date: February 23, 2014 05:12AM

Not only is NSA intercepting it, they're sharing with other countries. NPR reported that Snowden released documents that showed the NSA shared unfiltered data collected from Americans with Israel. Last time I heard, that amounted to treason.

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