I've heard many ladies say guys in this area do not meet their standards. I've heard a guys say there are too many feminazis in this area (particularly in DC). I've got a feeling it's all due to everyone being hyper focused on their careers in this area.

That and the women are unattractive but yet think they are catches.

Donkey Dong Wrote:
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> That and the women are unattractive but yet think
> they are catches.

+1000000

5'3" women describe themselves as "fit" at 140+ lbs because they jog around the block after work and hit the elliptical for an hour a week. smh

Oh, and they're only interested in men over 6' tall. Thankfully this world will never run out of housecats.

Fat is FAT. Fat is not 'cute', 'pleasantly plump', 'healthy', 'athletic', 'curvy'. It is FAT. Men DO NOT LIKE fat chicks.

The problem is women in this area are delusional about how good they look. About 75% of single women in this area 5 or 6 not a 11 as they think.

I recently sat down at a free open meeting where two of the women beside first complained free food was pizza. The women then took napkins and patted the pizza down to remove any grease. After that they complained that sauce was probably canned.

Look if you don't want free pizza from some local pizza joint then don't complain and don't eat it.

You winners all managed to not only not answer the question, but you actually turned it around to complain about women. Does that give you a clue why good men are hard to find?

Here's the answer. Educated men in their twenties think they are 'playas' and are completely self-absorbed (to which you're thinking 'Yeah, so?'). If they make it to their thirties without getting married then they are either doing so intentionally (see 'playas'), are defective in some way (looks, personality, education,..), aren't really trying, or they're gay (not that there's anything wrong with that). In their forties they're either retreads or hopelessly flawed. In their fifties and older, they're looking for younger women. So there you go.

What has always shocked me is the amount of 19-25 year olds that are ALREADY fat! They have no chance of getting to their 30's under 300 lbs. Then they go get tatted up. Next stop is the circus for these cows.

Focus... Wrote:
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> You winners all managed to not only not answer the
> question, but you actually turned it around to
> complain about women. Does that give you a clue
> why good men are hard to find?
>
> Here's the answer. Educated men in their twenties
> think they are 'playas' and are completely
> self-absorbed (to which you're thinking 'Yeah,
> so?'). If they make it to their thirties without
> getting married then they are either doing so
> intentionally (see 'playas'), are defective in
> some way (looks, personality, education,..),
> aren't really trying, or they're gay (not that
> there's anything wrong with that). In their
> forties they're either retreads or hopelessly
> flawed. In their fifties and older, they're
> looking for younger women. So there you go.


No, they answered the question. It's difficult for women to meet guys in this area because guys don't want to put up with a bunch of fat, delusional women who think their pussies are made of platinum. Guys hear that women are "independent" all the time until the bill for drinks/dinner shows up. Then, miraculously, women aren't so independent. Men are supposed to appreciate women for their minds, great company, and personalities? We can very easily go out with our guy friends and appreciate the same things...and not have to fund their night out.

The OP wanted to know why it's tough for women to meet men. Question answered.

^ nailed it

Women use Match, okcupid, etc. for an endless supply of free drinks/dinner as often as they'd like.

"Split the bill? You should pay for this one since you asked me out. I'll get the next one."
There is never a next one.

ZzZzZzZz Wrote:
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> What has always shocked me is the amount of 19-25
> year olds that are ALREADY fat! They have no
> chance of getting to their 30's under 300 lbs.
> Then they go get tatted up. Next stop is the
> circus for these cows.


Already at 250 lbs, and eating fifteen meals a day! Keerist! Girl like that might roll over in bed and fucking squash you!

Here's a perfect example of dating whores:

http://www.businessinsider.com/confessions-how-she-made-1200-a-month-using-matchcom-2011-11

A young New Yorker we'll call Minerva McGonagall* was tired of dipping into her savings to keep up with her Manhattan lifestyle.

Her $45k salary was not enough and she needed at least an extra $500 a month and sometimes $1,000 to pay her credit card bills and afford her $1,475 a month apartment in Murray Hill.

Then she discovered Match.com– the perfect site for a broke 23-year-old.

“Before I barely had enough money to pay for food,” said McGonagall. “After using Match.com I found I wasn’t going into debt anymore.”

McGonagall started eating out five nights a week using a rotation of different guys she met through the dating site. McGonagall kept things simple—no more than five dates with the same guy.

The investment banker types were thrilled to woo her with extraordinary restaurants like the underground taqueria La Esquina and a Japanese restaurant, Megu, in Tribeca. One guy even took her to a champagne bar and purchased a $200 bottle.

McGonagall went from easily spending $500 a month on dinners alone to having someone else dole out an average of $60-plus per night. She also stopped eating lunch and opted for a light breakfast to save even more.

According to our calculations, McGonagall made over $1,200 a month.

Match.com does require a $50 monthly subscription, but the dates more than made up for the entry price.

“I mean, a guy buys me three drinks at $15 a pop and that right there made up for my Match fee,” said McGonagall.

McGonagall's roommates played the money-saving game as well. In fact, McGonagall first learned about online dating after watching one of her roommates go on extravagant outings every night.

Two weeks later, McGonagall and her other roommate joined.

“We made ground rules,” said McGonagall.

One of them called for making spreadsheets about each guy who took them out for their drinks and/or meals. It included names, photos and details from their Match.com accounts.

The girls also let each other know where they were going for the night. And they never let guys pick them up at their apartment and instead met up at a public location.

She was doing this to investment bankers!?!?!?! "Independent women"...my ass.

Imagine the treatment Joe Schmo office drone gets.

women in their young 20's are seeking a rich lifestyle. men in their 20's are not yet rich. women's looks start fading as they approach 30. men hit their strides as they hit 30 and can spot a gold digger. both men and women in their 20's are looking for love in the wrong places. they will remain single and lonely. very unfortunate

Want to find a beautiful piece of ass? Head to eastern Europe or Russia. The women over there put the NOVA fatty skanks to shame.

Donkey Dong Wrote:
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> The women over there put
> the NOVA fatty skanks to shame.

This is the case in most countries.
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Fat and tats are NOT attractive. So simple that even a cave woman should be able to figure it out.

Donkey Dong Wrote:
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> Want to find a beautiful piece of ass? Head to
> eastern Europe or Russia. The women over there put
> the NOVA fatty skanks to shame.

Yes, but then I have to put up those terrible accents.

The problem is that women like strong, confident manly men, and most men in this area are wimpy, faggoty acting libtard girly-men!

Dating Wrote:
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> She was doing this to investment bankers!?!?!?!
> "Independent women"...my ass.
>
> Imagine the treatment Joe Schmo office drone gets.

Don't waste your time on women who make less money than you.
No pussy by the end of the 3rd date? NEXT !!!!!

Women want romance, men want sex. Find the middle ground and your good!

jfjnhfvh Wrote:
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> Here's a perfect example of dating whores:
>
> http://www.businessinsider.com/confessions-how-she
> -made-1200-a-month-using-matchcom-2011-11
>
> A young New Yorker we'll call Minerva McGonagall*
> was tired of dipping into her savings to keep up
> with her Manhattan lifestyle.
>
> Her $45k salary was not enough and she needed at
> least an extra $500 a month and sometimes $1,000
> to pay her credit card bills and afford her $1,475
> a month apartment in Murray Hill.
>
> Then she discovered Match.com– the perfect site
> for a broke 23-year-old.
>
> “Before I barely had enough money to pay for
> food,” said McGonagall. “After using Match.com
> I found I wasn’t going into debt anymore.”
>
> McGonagall started eating out five nights a week
> using a rotation of different guys she met through
> the dating site. McGonagall kept things
> simple—no more than five dates with the same
> guy.
>
> The investment banker types were thrilled to woo
> her with extraordinary restaurants like the
> underground taqueria La Esquina and a Japanese
> restaurant, Megu, in Tribeca. One guy even took
> her to a champagne bar and purchased a $200
> bottle.
>
> McGonagall went from easily spending $500 a month
> on dinners alone to having someone else dole out
> an average of $60-plus per night. She also stopped
> eating lunch and opted for a light breakfast to
> save even more.
>
> According to our calculations, McGonagall made
> over $1,200 a month.
>
> Match.com does require a $50 monthly subscription,
> but the dates more than made up for the entry
> price.
>
> “I mean, a guy buys me three drinks at $15 a pop
> and that right there made up for my Match fee,”
> said McGonagall.
>
> McGonagall's roommates played the money-saving
> game as well. In fact, McGonagall first learned
> about online dating after watching one of her
> roommates go on extravagant outings every night.
>
>
> Two weeks later, McGonagall and her other roommate
> joined.
>
> “We made ground rules,” said McGonagall.
>
> One of them called for making spreadsheets about
> each guy who took them out for their drinks and/or
> meals. It included names, photos and details from
> their Match.com accounts.
>
> The girls also let each other know where they were
> going for the night. And they never let guys pick
> them up at their apartment and instead met up at a
> public location.


This gold digging whore needs a good falcon punch.

Dating Wrote:
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> ^ nailed it
>
> Women use Match, okcupid, etc. for an endless
> supply of free drinks/dinner as often as they'd
> like.
>
> "Split the bill? You should pay for this one
> since you asked me out. I'll get the next one."
>
> There is never a next one.

HAHAHAH so when guys ask these hot girls out on dates and they agree to get a free drink and meal what do they order??? Wouldn't these 'hot girls' get really fat if they keep doing this????? how will they continue getting free food?

Professor Love Wrote:
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> The problem is that women like strong, confident
> manly men, and most men in this area are wimpy,
> faggoty acting libtard girly-men!

That is true! for the most part. The ones that aren't are usually married and cheating on their wives OR are a mechanic, plumber, or do any other manual labor for a living. It's tough on girls! Then you have guys being asses and complaining that theyre too fat or boobs are too small!

Hmmmm.. DC bars are 80% dudes most nights. A lot of women don't go out to bars except to brunch with their GFs - only gay guys do brunch.

The online dating sites have no shortage of guys but none will be the tall prince with an exciting career - because they know it is easier to meet women in real life.

The metro and other public places can be good but most women wear earphones so no one will pester them.

Because I am a good father, my financial situation isn't ideal. Many women run from me, but at least my kids will know that I was there for them.

Professor Love Wrote:
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> The problem is that women like strong, confident
> manly men, and most men in this area are wimpy,
> faggoty acting libtard girly-men!


You mean I'm not hip and sexy?
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Too many metrosexuals who care more about turning on other guys.

Lot's of vanity, me-to sedans in this area. With the large number of BMW, Mercedes, lexus, etc. running around in this area...it also means there is a large number of micropenis or erectile dysfunctional guys who drive these cars.

That also applies to people driving all of those rice cars...women love being driven around in a 10 year old tuned up honda civic with a fart canon.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm12321231 Wrote:
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> Lot's of vanity, me-to sedans in this area. With
> the large number of BMW, Mercedes, lexus, etc.
> running around in this area...it also means there
> is a large number of micropenis or erectile
> dysfunctional guys who drive these cars.
>
> That also applies to people driving all of those
> rice cars...women love being driven around in a 10
> year old tuned up honda civic with a fart canon.


You mean the guy rolling hard in his new Audi A3 and living paycheck to paycheck isn't sexy?

I bought 2 new watches, I'm sure this will impress all the ladies

The problem is people haven't unplugged from their youth's residual self-image and have to get past the fact that they're no longer young, slender, athletic, and attractive. 35's look nothing like 23's. They need to get past what they think they look like when they look in the mirror. That's now they really look to other people.

Don't worry all you obese white women - the Black brothers are always there for you (until you pop the little half-breed out and you start asking for child support).

It's pretty easy to meet women in NoVA. If you can't get a date using POF/Tinder you're doing something wrong. All of the dates I have been on they have offered to pay their half of the tab.

The problem is we don't want a relationship, we are too busy. It's so easy to find another one with tinder and all the online dating sites. You can be very picky these days, that goes for both sides.

to get a date, then you might as well just watch porn. Pathetic. Have you ever wondered why the world laughs at America? Think about it when you finish jerking off. Women are approachable if you just do it. If a women is an arrogant bitch, just ignore and move on.

I have no problem finding all the black dudes I can bang!

Did you ever think maybe a real woman wouldn't offer to pay her way? All the women I know have men pay for them. WTF is this pay their share on the first date? You wonder why they won't see your cheap ass again.lol We can find PLENTY of guys interested in taking us out and paying. Why would anyone bother with a guy that wouldn't do that? Seriously, learn how to treat a Lady if you plan on getting any.

dater of POF/tinder women Wrote:
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> It's pretty easy to meet women in NoVA. If you
> can't get a date using POF/Tinder you're doing
> something wrong. All of the dates I have been on
> they have offered to pay their half of the tab.
>
> The problem is we don't want a relationship, we
> are too busy. It's so easy to find another one
> with tinder and all the online dating sites. You
> can be very picky these days, that goes for both
> sides.

Classylady Wrote:
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> Did you ever think maybe a real woman wouldn't
> offer to pay her way? All the women I know have
> men pay for them. WTF is this pay their share on
> the first date? You wonder why they won't see your
> cheap ass again.lol We can find PLENTY of guys
> interested in taking us out and paying. Why would
> anyone bother with a guy that wouldn't do that?
> Seriously, learn how to treat a Lady if you plan
> on getting any.

So, let me get this straight. You're independent and don't need a man...until it benefits you. I'm sure there are plenty of guys willing to open up their wallets without any hesitation. That's because they're stupid. I date women all the time and I have dated plenty who don't even pretend to reach for their wallet. The ones who at least offer to pay their way are, without a doubt, much better dates.

Real women DO offer to pay, and allow us gentlemen to step up. You and the women you hang with are gold-digging whores.

With that said, I pay 99% of the time for me and my girlfriend. It's different when you're in an actual relationship and both of you are bringing something to the table. I also make 7x what she makes, so it's only fair.

You women need to decide whether you need men or you don't. I'm independent. I don't need a guy. We hear it all the time. Until you're hungry or thirsty. We men are getting a little sick of you wanting it both ways. Your pussies aren't magic. And you really aren't as hot as you think you are. Bring something to the fucking table. I don't buy the whole "good company" thing. I can get that anywhere...for free.

Womens is crazy.

Can guys please make up their minds? You DO treat us like our pussies are magic.lol for real. It's actually quite pathetic. The day men stop treating us like commodities is the day I open my wallet. I didn't invent the game. I just know I can't change it. I've never paid for anything while dating someone. Is that really what I'm supposed to be doing?

When it comes to paychecks, we demand equal pay for women, but when it comes to the dinner tab, it's 100% on the man. What's wrong with that?

You want a woman to pay her half, try asking her to marry you instead of propositioning her for sex. You can see why we might get mixed messages. It's not about us not being willing to pay our share but step up to the plate and offer us something meaningful. Then you would say an attitude change. Women still make 78 cents for every dollar a man makes so equal pay is not so equal.lol


Diehard Lib Wrote:
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> When it comes to paychecks, we demand equal pay
> for women, but when it comes to the dinner tab,
> it's 100% on the man. What's wrong with that?

The way NOVA chicks think:

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Why is prostitution a multibillion dollar a year industry that surpasses drugs then??


he way NOVA chicks think Wrote:
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> The way NOVA chicks think:
>

Novachick Wrote:
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> Why is prostitution a multibillion dollar a year
> industry that surpasses drugs then??

Because paying a hooker for sex is SO much easier than dealing with a woman in a relationship.

Novachick Wrote:
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> Why is prostitution a multibillion dollar a year
> industry that surpasses drugs then??

Because your self-aggrandized twat isn't 'magic', it's a tool.

That tool can be employed in many ways, including to earn a living (prostitution).

Did I ever say it was magic? Lol I'm just pointing out that men are willing to pay, so why should women pay on dates? That has zero to do with magic or special or anything. The fact is, men will pay so why should women be made to feel like we ought to? For every man there are a hundred more who would gladly go out with us.


ool-Time Wrote:
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> Novachick Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Why is prostitution a multibillion dollar a
> year
> > industry that surpasses drugs then??
>
> Because your self-aggrandized twat isn't 'magic',
> it's a tool.
>
> That tool can be employed in many ways, including
> to earn a living (prostitution).

Classylady Wrote:
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> Did you ever think maybe a real woman wouldn't
> offer to pay her way? All the women I know have
> men pay for them. WTF is this pay their share on
> the first date? You wonder why they won't see your
> cheap ass again.lol We can find PLENTY of guys
> interested in taking us out and paying. Why would
> anyone bother with a guy that wouldn't do that?
> Seriously, learn how to treat a Lady if you plan
> on getting any.
>
> dater of POF/tinder women Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > It's pretty easy to meet women in NoVA. If you
> > can't get a date using POF/Tinder you're doing
> > something wrong. All of the dates I have been
> on
> > they have offered to pay their half of the tab.
> >
> > The problem is we don't want a relationship, we
> > are too busy. It's so easy to find another one
> > with tinder and all the online dating sites.
> You
> > can be very picky these days, that goes for
> both
> > sides.

And you wonder why you're still single? I never said anything about not paying, only that the majority of women at least offer to pay. Of course I never let them pay.


When a lady offers to pay, at least pretends, its a good look on her part. The date, and world doesn't all revolve around you. It say's to me "I'm not just a desperate little whore going on dates for attention and free meals".


Now if I'm on a date with a whore with the personality of a rock, yes, she shouldn't even pretend to pay. She knows her value is in the blowjob she will give me in the parking lot if she wants another call from me.

I have offered to pay my share and the outcome was still the same so I stopped.


er of POF/tinder women Wrote:
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> Classylady Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Did you ever think maybe a real woman wouldn't
> > offer to pay her way? All the women I know have
> > men pay for them. WTF is this pay their share
> on
> > the first date? You wonder why they won't see
> your
> > cheap ass again.lol We can find PLENTY of guys
> > interested in taking us out and paying. Why
> would
> > anyone bother with a guy that wouldn't do that?
> > Seriously, learn how to treat a Lady if you
> plan
> > on getting any.
> >
> > dater of POF/tinder women Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > It's pretty easy to meet women in NoVA. If
> you
> > > can't get a date using POF/Tinder you're
> doing
> > > something wrong. All of the dates I have been
> > on
> > > they have offered to pay their half of the
> tab.
> > >
> > > The problem is we don't want a relationship,
> we
> > > are too busy. It's so easy to find another
> one
> > > with tinder and all the online dating sites.
> > You
> > > can be very picky these days, that goes for
> > both
> > > sides.
>
> And you wonder why you're still single? I never
> said anything about not paying, only that the
> majority of women at least offer to pay. Of course
> I never let them pay.
>
>
> When a lady offers to pay, at least pretends, its
> a good look on her part. The date, and world
> doesn't all revolve around you. It say's to me
> "I'm not just a desperate little whore going on
> dates for attention and free meals".
>
>
> Now if I'm on a date with a whore with the
> personality of a rock, yes, she shouldn't even
> pretend to pay. She knows her value is in the
> blowjob she will give me in the parking lot if she
> wants another call from me.

Novachick Wrote:
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> Did I ever say it was magic? Lol I'm just pointing
> out that men are willing to pay, so why should
> women pay on dates? That has zero to do with magic
> or special or anything. The fact is, men will pay
> so why should women be made to feel like we ought
> to? For every man there are a hundred more who
> would gladly go out with us.

You trade your services ('dates') with men for compensation (meals, drinks, and entertainment).

So you're a prostitute.

A woman calling herself independent simply means she has a job that pays above poverty level. If she were truly independent, she wouldn't be dating. She'd be asexual. A relationship is two merging into one, its a dependency. She spent 10 times longer getting ready for that date, her aappearance upkeep costs 10 times more than a man's. Sex with emotionally and spiritually different for her.
The man pays. If he is more than 5 years her senior, he should pick her up and drive her home too.

The problem with men in this area are the wolf in sheeps clothing liberals. They at heart are more misogynist than conservatives.

I get that some people want to "settle down" and have the same woman around them 24/7. Not for me. I'd rather date several women and explore new dates. I don't consider myself a "Playa."

To me there's lot of sparks and fun on a first date and enjoying the company of somebody new. The excitement of finding out more about a woman in an intimate setting of a winery, enjoying the DC nightlife, boating on the Potomac or Chesapeake. This area offers so many great date opportunities to be enjoyed.

I can simply pickup my cellphone and have a date within minutes or join a group of single people someplace for the evening. Cellphone apps and texting have revolutionized the dating world in the DC area.

If a woman "can't find the right guy" today then she doesn't want a committed relationship.

Also add- courting is OVER. With the advent ot tinder and POF and the like, men have learned there are plenty of desperate women who will let them fuck on the first date without even taking them to dinner, a walk in the park, what have you.

This fucked it up for all the true women who wanted to be courted properly- even those of us willing to go 50/50 with the man "ok since you got dinner I'll get the tickets to the movies and snacks" the man will reject her and go after a women who will put out without any money being spent.

Selfish men want their cake and to eat it too without spending any money if at all possible- then have the nerve to hit HER up for a loan/ride/place to stay- and said desperate women will fall for it just to say they have a man in their lives.

Thanks society!

oakpak Wrote:
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> A woman calling herself independent simply means
> she has a job that pays above poverty level. If
> she were truly independent, she wouldn't be
> dating. She'd be asexual. A relationship is two
> merging into one, its a dependency. She spent 10
> times longer getting ready for that date, her
> aappearance upkeep costs 10 times more than a
> man's. Sex with emotionally and spiritually
> different for her.
> The man pays. If he is more than 5 years her
> senior, he should pick her up and drive her home
> too.
>
> The problem with men in this area are the wolf in
> sheeps clothing liberals. They at heart are more
> misogynist than conservatives.


LOL!


Hey random girl, whats your address? I'm going to pick you up for our date, in my work van. Trust me, babe.

I do want a committed relationship.



eal Truth Wrote:
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> I get that some people want to "settle down" and
> have the same woman around them 24/7. Not for me.
> I'd rather date several women and explore new
> dates. I don't consider myself a "Playa."
>
> To me there's lot of sparks and fun on a first
> date and enjoying the company of somebody new. The
> excitement of finding out more about a woman in an
> intimate setting of a winery, enjoying the DC
> nightlife, boating on the Potomac or Chesapeake.
> This area offers so many great date opportunities
> to be enjoyed.
>
> I can simply pickup my cellphone and have a date
> within minutes or join a group of single people
> someplace for the evening. Cellphone apps and
> texting have revolutionized the dating world in
> the DC area.
>
> If a woman "can't find the right guy" today then
> she doesn't want a committed relationship.

I don't know where the words "Selfish men" is true.

I listen to my married friends bitch all the time about how their wife won't let them do something. Go to sporting event, bar, etc... They couldn't watch the game because Nickelodeon had the Lion King on. They are stuck with the kids etc...

I like my free time and enjoy dating different women. I'm not married, I haven't declared "this is my girlfriend." I'm not cheating.

It's a persons decision to be single or in a committed relationship. That doesn't equate to "selfish." It equates to good decisions and confidence that make me happy.




yHHeX Wrote:
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> Also add- courting is OVER. With the advent ot
> tinder and POF and the like, men have learned
> there are plenty of desperate women who will let
> them fuck on the first date without even taking
> them to dinner, a walk in the park, what have
> you.
>
> This fucked it up for all the true women who
> wanted to be courted properly- even those of us
> willing to go 50/50 with the man "ok since you got
> dinner I'll get the tickets to the movies and
> snacks" the man will reject her and go after a
> women who will put out without any money being
> spent.
>
> Selfish men want their cake and to eat it too
> without spending any money if at all possible-
> then have the nerve to hit HER up for a
> loan/ride/place to stay- and said desperate women
> will fall for it just to say they have a man in
> their lives.
>
> Thanks society!

Classylady Wrote:
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> attitude change. Women still make 78 cents for
> every dollar a man makes so equal pay is not so
> equal.lol


Fallacy...read the article. Women as a whole choose to make less:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2012/04/16/its-time-that-we-end-the-equal-pay-myth/

The wage gap statistic, however, doesn’t compare two similarly situated co-workers of different sexes, working in the same industry, performing the same work, for the same number of hours a day. It merely reflects the median earnings of all men and women classified as full-time workers.


The Department of Labor’s Time Use Survey, for example, finds that the average full-time working man spends 8.14 hours a day on the job, compared to 7.75 hours for the full-time working woman. Employees who work more likely earn more. Men working five percent longer than women alone explains about one-quarter of the wage gap.

There are numerous other factors that affect pay. Most fundamentally, men and women tend to gravitate toward different industries. Feminists may charge that women are socialized into lower-paying sectors of the economy. But women considering the decisions they’ve made likely have a different view. Women tend to seek jobs with regular hours, more comfortable conditions, little travel, and greater personal fulfillment. Often times, women are willing to trade higher pay for jobs with other characteristics that they find attractive.

I normally just ask women to help me load my coach into my van.

Wow. I feel bad for all of you. And I thought I had it tough being single in the 80's. Seems like social media has resulted in people becoming anything but. Good luck to all and hope you find what you are looking for. Rich guy, sex, whatever.

Marriedwithchildren Wrote:
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> Wow. I feel bad for all of you. And I thought I
> had it tough being single in the 80's. Seems like
> social media has resulted in people becoming
> anything but. Good luck to all and hope you find
> what you are looking for. Rich guy, sex,
> whatever.

Single in the 80's was easy. Guys could be guys and women were actually feminine. Now, things are different. Guys are pussies and women are angry feminists who were duped by man-hating lesbians into thinking that men aren't necessary. Thank God for FfxU. There's no way in hell anyone could say the truth without people getting so utterly offended that they have to turn to meds. Dating sucks because people make it suck. You want a man, but not tooo manly because God forbid he actually be allowed to lead. But then you complain because he isn't manly enough or he doesn't lead or, even worse, he tells you what to do.

You can have the fucked-up dating world that's been created. I will keep my money and my sanity.

2 sayings to remember:

1. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, and expecting different results.

2. It's easier to fool someone than to convince them that they've been fooled.

I'm incredibly feminine and like a man to lead. I also hate wussy guys and that's all that this area seems to have. You have to go at least an hr north or south of DC to find a real man. Please don't tell me you're pro choice and voted for Obama or I might vomit.lol Really

Because most of the men around here are immature and don't know how to grow up or only care about sex, beer and sleep. I rather stay single than have a guy around and have to take care of 3 "kids". And please note I did say "most" not all, but it is rare to find a good one. I'm not wasting my time to look.

keeping my sanity Wrote:
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> 1. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over,
> and expecting different results.
>
> 2. It's easier to fool someone than to convince
> them that they've been fooled.

Sounds like teabaggers and conserva-tards!

Conserva-tards!

LoLz!

nometrosexuals Wrote:
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> I'm incredibly feminine and like a man to lead. I
> also hate wussy guys and that's all that this area
> seems to have. You have to go at least an hr north
> or south of DC to find a real man. Please don't
> tell me you're pro choice and voted for Obama or I
> might vomit.lol Really


jmo Wrote:
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> Because most of the men around here are immature and
> don't know how to grow up or only care about sex,
> beer and sleep. I rather stay single than have a guy
> around and have to take care of 3 "kids". And please
> note I did say "most" not all, but it is rare to find
> a good one. I'm not wasting my time to look.

That's really very sad.

I've been married for 16+ years, so I have no idea what it's like out there for singles.

Stay strong, my Sistahs!

nometrosexuals Wrote:
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> I'm incredibly feminine and like a man to lead. I
> also hate wussy guys and that's all that this area
> seems to have. You have to go at least an hr north
> or south of DC to find a real man. Please don't
> tell me you're pro choice and voted for Obama or I
> might vomit.lol Really

Conservi-tardz lol

This isn't your area, move to Kentucky you dumb hick.

Online dating equates to a bunch of women rating about a 4-6 out of 10, don't show below their chest in pics, get emailed by a mammoth sausage fest (many with fake pics of good looking men), and women miss out on the actual good guys because the women get so caught up in all this amazing attention they receive so therefor the women feel like they deserve better.

Yep, that about sums it up. I'll stick to the bars. Then all I have to worry about is how saggy their tits are when they remove their push-up support bras.

jmo Wrote:
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> Because most of the men around here are immature
> and don't know how to grow up or only care about
> sex, beer and sleep. I rather stay single than
> have a guy around and have to take care of 3
> "kids". And please note I did say "most" not all,
> but it is rare to find a good one. I'm not wasting
> my time to look.

There are tons of decent guys and gals in the DC area who have their shit straight. But nothing really matters if you don't want to have sex with them. Without the sex, the best you can expect is friendship. A person who is good looking and has everything you want has options.

Texting, tinder, social networks, and information overload have all created a population with very short attention spans. Most people wouldn't know a good catch if it kicked them in the ass. Everyone is too busy reading their own posts and looking down at their phones...because, you know, their lives are really important.

Stop dating yourself for a minute and you may find there are people all around you.

someone explain this to me:

I have a college education and make good money. One would figure that I would seek out a chick that's a high earner so we can attain DINK status. However, I get turned the fuck off when a chick brags about how she closed a multimillionaire dollar deal for her company or is trying to be the female Gordon Gekko go-getter. I want a chick that's gonna cry during romance movies, miss me when I'm away, etc. Why do girls in this area feel like they have to one up guys lol? It's a turn off.

nometrosexuals Wrote:
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Fixed it for you.

cash money Wrote:
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> I want a chick
> that's gonna cry during romance movies, miss me
> when I'm away, etc. Why do girls in this area feel
> like they have to one up guys lol? It's a turn
> off.

1. You sound a little bit metro. Go get some tampons.

2. Stop hanging out with angry feminazi lesbians.

This whole thread summed up in 10 pictures
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cash money Wrote:
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> someone explain this to me:
>
> I have a college education and make good money.
> One would figure that I would seek out a chick
> that's a high earner so we can attain DINK status.
> However, I get turned the fuck off when a chick
> brags about how she closed a multimillionaire
> dollar deal for her company or is trying to be the
> female Gordon Gekko go-getter.....

..Because we ladies have to pay our own rent/car note/etc in this high-cost area which means we have to work at a job better than the waitress at chili's- unless you were going to cover our rent/school tutition.

What's wrong with a woman taking care of herself? First you want us independent earning money to take care of ourselves- next minute "we work too much" or worse "she makes more than me"- and at the same time you refuse to help us with bills???? Where do they do that at???

Because men can't make up their minds and are insecure deep down. Forget it if you're a woman who doesn't buy into all the Obama worship and hipster bullshit that's so popular these days.

KUCT Wrote:
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> cash money Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > someone explain this to me:
> >
> > I have a college education and make good money.
> > One would figure that I would seek out a chick
> > that's a high earner so we can attain DINK
> status.
> > However, I get turned the fuck off when a chick
> > brags about how she closed a multimillionaire
> > dollar deal for her company or is trying to be
> the
> > female Gordon Gekko go-getter.....
>
> ..Because we ladies have to pay our own rent/car
> note/etc in this high-cost area which means we
> have to work at a job better than the waitress at
> chili's- unless you were going to cover our
> rent/school tutition.
>
> What's wrong with a woman taking care of herself?
> First you want us independent earning money to
> take care of ourselves- next minute "we work too
> much" or worse "she makes more than me"- and at
> the same time you refuse to help us with bills????
> Where do they do that at???

Here's some advice for everyone.

Women: Stop being angry man-haters. Try being feminine. Trim downstairs. Try dating an average looking guy who is nice and is willing to treat you well and is willing to pick up the tab.

Men: Stop being assholes. Take a shower more than once a week. Trim downstairs. Try taking a nice average-looking woman out on a date. Give her a nice hug at the end and don't grab her ass. Text her when you get home and tell her you had a great time.

People need to stop being retarded. None of you are that hot. None of you are truly exceptional. All of you are average and, just maybe, above average. Stop your delusional "never settle" attitudes. You will all settle. Nobody will give you 100% of everything you want or need. If you don't settle at least a little, you will be alone.

Good night.

Very good advice. I personally am feminine, shave downstairs, and date average looking guys. Many women do need to act more like women and be less independent and be more flirty. Also, having standards that a guy is tall and makes a lot of money is too much to ask. Some average women do get that and I smh at some of these wives men here choose. It's sad.

Sperminator Wrote:
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> Here's some advice for everyone.
>
> Women: Stop being angry man-haters. Try being
> feminine. Trim downstairs. Try dating an average
> looking guy who is nice and is willing to treat
> you well and is willing to pick up the tab.
>
> Men: Stop being assholes. Take a shower more than
> once a week. Trim downstairs. Try taking a nice
> average-looking woman out on a date. Give her a
> nice hug at the end and don't grab her ass. Text
> her when you get home and tell her you had a great
> time.
>
> People need to stop being retarded. None of you
> are that hot. None of you are truly exceptional.
> All of you are average and, just maybe, above
> average. Stop your delusional "never settle"
> attitudes. You will all settle. Nobody will give
> you 100% of everything you want or need. If you
> don't settle at least a little, you will be
> alone.
>
> Good night.

realtalki Wrote:
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> Very good advice. I personally am feminine, shave
> downstairs, and date average looking guys. Many
> women do need to act more like women and be less
> independent and be more flirty. Also, having
> standards that a guy is tall and makes a lot of
> money is too much to ask. Some average women do
> get that and I smh at some of these wives men here
> choose. It's sad.

How old are you?

Sperminator Wrote:
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> realtalki Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Very good advice. I personally am feminine,
> shave
> > downstairs, and date average looking guys. Many
> > women do need to act more like women and be
> less
> > independent and be more flirty. Also, having
> > standards that a guy is tall and makes a lot of
> > money is too much to ask. Some average women do
> > get that and I smh at some of these wives men
> here
> > choose. It's sad.
>
> How old are you?


haha this guy was obviously being nice and trying to strike up a 1 on 1 convo with this chick but she didn't answer and just proved the whole issue that women say they want a nice normal guy but the second one shows up the women act like total morons

hahahahaha Wrote:
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> Sperminator Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > realtalki Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Very good advice. I personally am feminine,
> > shave
> > > downstairs, and date average looking guys.
> Many
> > > women do need to act more like women and be
> > less
> > > independent and be more flirty. Also, having
> > > standards that a guy is tall and makes a lot
> of
> > > money is too much to ask. Some average women
> do
> > > get that and I smh at some of these wives men
> > here
> > > choose. It's sad.
> >
> > How old are you?
>
>
> haha this guy was obviously being nice and trying
> to strike up a 1 on 1 convo with this chick but
> she didn't answer and just proved the whole issue
> that women say they want a nice normal guy but the
> second one shows up the women act like total
> morons


This is why.
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Yeah, dating is tough. Finding a normal human being is even tougher. Take me, for example. I'm a 39 yr old swm, no kids, 6'1" tall, athletic and active, considered good looking, educated, senior management in IT, fun, normal, plenty of friends, wanting a serious relationship, etc. I find that many women are intimidated or resent my success. This area is incredibly competitive and career-focused. It could also be that I have expectations of people. Things like "normal" and accountable are tough to find.

I read an article about the metro DC area having the most single people of any metro area in the country. It went on to explain that this area has the highest education levels in addition to a large transient population, leading to people with a singular focus. If things don't fit into the short-term plan, people dismiss it and focus on their immediate career.

It's actually kinda morbid. The drones working 8-12 hours per day, married to their smart phones, and not really finding a lifetime partner they can truly depend on.

I'm 30.

Sperminator Wrote:
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> realtalki Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Very good advice. I personally am feminine,
> shave
> > downstairs, and date average looking guys. Many
> > women do need to act more like women and be
> less
> > independent and be more flirty. Also, having
> > standards that a guy is tall and makes a lot of
> > money is too much to ask. Some average women do
> > get that and I smh at some of these wives men
> here
> > choose. It's sad.
>
> How old are you?

Sperminator Wrote:
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> Yeah, dating is tough. Finding a normal human
> being is even tougher. Take me, for example. I'm a
> 39 yr old swm, no kids, 6'1" tall, athletic and
> active, considered good looking, educated, senior
> management in IT, fun, normal, plenty of friends,
> wanting a serious relationship, etc. I find that
> many women are intimidated or resent my success.
> This area is incredibly competitive and
> career-focused. It could also be that I have
> expectations of people. Things like "normal" and
> accountable are tough to find.
>
> I read an article about the metro DC area having
> the most single people of any metro area in the
> country. It went on to explain that this area has
> the highest education levels in addition to a
> large transient population, leading to people with
> a singular focus. If things don't fit into the
> short-term plan, people dismiss it and focus on
> their immediate career.
>
> It's actually kinda morbid. The drones working
> 8-12 hours per day, married to their smart phones,
> and not really finding a lifetime partner they can
> truly depend on.


You're almost 40.

> Here's the answer. Educated men in their twenties
> think they are 'playas' and are completely
> self-absorbed (to which you're thinking 'Yeah,
> so?'). If they make it to their thirties without
> getting married then they are either doing so
> intentionally (see 'playas'), are defective in
> some way (looks, personality, education,..),
> aren't really trying, or they're gay (not that
> there's anything wrong with that). In their
> forties they're either retreads or hopelessly
> flawed.


Lot of truth to that!

as the other poster said Wrote:
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> Sperminator Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Yeah, dating is tough. Finding a normal human
> > being is even tougher. Take me, for example. I'm
> a
> > 39 yr old swm, no kids, 6'1" tall, athletic and
> > active, considered good looking, educated,
> senior
> > management in IT, fun, normal, plenty of
> friends,
> > wanting a serious relationship, etc. I find
> that
> > many women are intimidated or resent my
> success.
> > This area is incredibly competitive and
> > career-focused. It could also be that I have
> > expectations of people. Things like "normal"
> and
> > accountable are tough to find.
> >
> > I read an article about the metro DC area
> having
> > the most single people of any metro area in the
> > country. It went on to explain that this area
> has
> > the highest education levels in addition to a
> > large transient population, leading to people
> with
> > a singular focus. If things don't fit into the
> > short-term plan, people dismiss it and focus on
> > their immediate career.
> >
> > It's actually kinda morbid. The drones working
> > 8-12 hours per day, married to their smart
> phones,
> > and not really finding a lifetime partner they
> can
> > truly depend on.
>
>
> You're almost 40.
>
> > Here's the answer. Educated men in their
> twenties
> > think they are 'playas' and are completely
> > self-absorbed (to which you're thinking 'Yeah,
> > so?'). If they make it to their thirties
> without
> > getting married then they are either doing so
> > intentionally (see 'playas'), are defective in
> > some way (looks, personality, education,..),
> > aren't really trying, or they're gay (not that
> > there's anything wrong with that). In their
> > forties they're either retreads or hopelessly
> > flawed.
>
>
> Lot of truth to that!


I think that's flawed logic. I know plenty of men and women who focused on career. I spent my 20s and better part of my 30s starting companies that I could sell off. That doesn't make me flawed. Be careful with generalizations. There is some truth to them but nothing is written in stone.

Vagirl8 Wrote:
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> I'm 30.
>
> Sperminator Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > realtalki Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Very good advice. I personally am feminine,
> > shave
> > > downstairs, and date average looking guys.
> Many
> > > women do need to act more like women and be
> > less
> > > independent and be more flirty. Also, having
> > > standards that a guy is tall and makes a lot
> of
> > > money is too much to ask. Some average women
> do
> > > get that and I smh at some of these wives men
> > here
> > > choose. It's sad.
> >
> > How old are you?


Message me if you'd like to chat.

And trying to pick up women on FFXU. Sounds like he was pretty spot on.

Sperminator Wrote:
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> as the other poster said Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> > > Here's the answer. Educated men in their
> > twenties
> > > think they are 'playas' and are completely
> > > self-absorbed (to which you're thinking
> 'Yeah,
> > > so?'). If they make it to their thirties
> > without
> > > getting married then they are either doing so
> > > intentionally (see 'playas'), are defective
> in
> > > some way (looks, personality, education,..),
> > > aren't really trying, or they're gay (not
> that
> > > there's anything wrong with that). In
> their
> > > forties they're either retreads or hopelessly
> > > flawed.
> >
> >
> > Lot of truth to that!
>
>
> I think that's flawed logic. I know plenty of men
> and women who focused on career. I spent my 20s
> and better part of my 30s starting companies that
> I could sell off. That doesn't make me flawed. Be
> careful with generalizations. There is some truth
> to them but nothing is written in stone.

It is flawed logic. It's an excuse divorced people came up with to explain why they are better then single people their own age.

Their premise goes "That guy or girl has never married and doesn't have kids because the person is retarded and nobody wants that person."

In reality the suitor is better because there is no baggage from a previous marriage and kid custody issues.

Most single people in the 40's have traveled a lot, are very independent and secure. Most have a ton of money from focusing on business careers and not having to pay kid expenses.

I would much rather date a woman without kids than with kids.

as the other poster said Wrote:
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> And trying to pick up women on FFXU. Sounds like
> he was pretty spot on.

I have no clue where things will lead and neither do you. If things work out, great. If they don't, I hope to have at least made a friend. You apparently haven't learned yet that you sometimes have to turn over a lot of rocks in order to find treasure. Maybe you should focus less energy on bashing people.

Sperminator Wrote:
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> I have no clue where things will lead and neither
> do you. If things work out, great. If they don't,
> I hope to have at least made a friend. You
> apparently haven't learned yet that you sometimes
> have to turn over a lot of rocks in order to find
> treasure. Maybe you should focus less energy on
> bashing people.

you sound to normal to be on fairfax underground

If something sounds too good to be true, you’re right.

causeican Wrote:
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> If something sounds too good to be true, you’re
> right.

generalizations have some truth but aren't always right thats like sayin all (insert race here) like certain types of music or all (insert race here) are smart and love math or all (insert race here) are violent and don't pay child support. generalizations are dangerous. not everyone on ffu are losers. some people here are nice.

bank of america sucks Wrote:
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> All (insert race here) like (insert type of music here).

I'm gonna go with Poles, and Polka!

> All (insert race here) are smart and love math.

This has got to be Blacks! No, Hispanics! No, wait. Whites! It's gotta be whites! I've got it now! Native Americans!

> All (insert race here) are violent and don't pay child support.

Well, obviously the answer here is whites, so does that mean my answer for #2 is wrong?

So, what do I win?!?!

Oooooo! I'll Play! I'll Play! Wrote:
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> bank of america sucks Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > All (insert race here) like (insert type of
> music here).
>
> I'm gonna go with Poles, and Polka!
>
> > All (insert race here) are smart and love math.
>
> This has got to be Blacks! No, Hispanics! No,
> wait. Whites! It's gotta be whites! I've
> got it now! Native Americans!
>
> > All (insert race here) are violent and don't pay
> child support.
>
> Well, obviously the answer here is whites,
> so does that mean my answer for #2 is wrong?
>
> So, what do I win?!?!


That was stupid

Oooooo! I'll Play! I'll Play! Wrote:
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> bank of america sucks Wrote:
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> -----
> > All (insert race here) like (insert type of
> music here).
>
> I'm gonna go with Poles, and Polka!
>
> > All (insert race here) are smart and love math.
>
> This has got to be Blacks! No, Hispanics! No,
> wait. Whites! It's gotta be whites! I've
> got it now! Native Americans!
>
> > All (insert race here) are violent and don't pay
> child support.
>
> Well, obviously the answer here is whites,
> so does that mean my answer for #2 is wrong?
>
> So, what do I win?!?!
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causeican Wrote:
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> If something sounds too good to be true, you’re
> right.

Or, it could be that expectations are set too low for most people.

ljfkwgvjfjjemk Wrote:
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> Oooooo! I'll Play! I'll Play! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > bank of america sucks Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > All (insert race here) like (insert type of
> > music here).
> >
> > I'm gonna go with Poles, and
> Polka!
> >
> > > All (insert race here) are smart and love
> math.
> >
> > This has got to be Blacks! No, Hispanics! No,
> > wait. Whites! It's gotta be whites! I've
> > got it now! Native Americans!
> >
> > > All (insert race here) are violent and don't
> pay
> > child support.
> >
> > Well, obviously the answer here is
> whites,
> > so does that mean my answer for #2 is wrong?
> >
> > So, what do I win?!?!
>
>
> That was stupid

I thought it was funny.

As a female here on Fairfax Underwear, I am honestly ok as long as the guy has the following-

A) A car (or at least a drivers license or is able to get one)-

TOO Many experiences with men who claimed to have a car "in the shop" and I had to play taxi EVERY TIME we went out- so here I was driving 20 miles to get to his house (I live in the outer fringes of fairfax and dates were in arlington/alexandria/dc/etc), then driving another 5-10 miles to go out and do whatever, 10 miles back to his place, then another 20 back to mine. And was lucky if he offered to put $10 of gas in the car- when it was $4 a gallon. In a v8. And the one time I got sick to my stomach and still had to drive because he could not AT ALL. How are you going to be 27 years old and not know how to drive?????

2) A place of his OWN.

Roommates were ok as long as he had his OWN room to retreat to (had some cool parties that way!). A crappy apartment was better than nothing, at least he had his own. Condo/TH/House desireable but I'm ok if not because starter houses around here cost 400k+. But coming over and having to walk past your mom and dad on the couch...not cool.

III) a job and decent credit with at least a bank account and one credit card.

Come on, anyone can get a prepaid debit card from 7-11 for their direct deposit (green dot, western union, etc) and put down $300 on a secured capital one visa at the least. Went to the hotel with one date and he didn't have a card at ALL to put the deposit for the hotel so I had to put up (and of course they charged my card for it). I did get the $112 bucks cash back from him, but damn your credit is that bad you can't even get a secured card? LOL!!!!


Quatro) NO back child support owed or serious tax liens or being garnished AT ALL.

If you can't handle your regular business, you have NO business wasting your money trying to date me. These are the same men who would try to move in with me/borrow my car/ask for money on the 2nd date. This also means if your paycheck is being garnished by 1/2 you won't be able to afford your own basic bills (rent, lights, cable, transportation, etc) and if we were to be a couple, you would be coming to me for money every month. I could see if the IRS got you but for your kids you had with another woman.... How about no. ADIOS MUCHACHOS!!!

I am sick of the sob story "men" around here. Begging for money from me is NOT ATTRACTIVE. I can see if you needed to borrow $50 IF WE WERE ALREADY DATING but one had the nerve to straight up ask me for $1200 to pay his rent- I laughed. He got evicted and showed up on my doorstep with bags of his shit. I did pay $25 for the cab to the shelter (no not lamb center *waits on lamb center dude to post in here* LOL) and helped him load his things in it and handed him a $20 for food and said bye. He called me for months until he finally gave up. If you can't hold yourself down how you gonna hold me down too?


Hope this made someone laugh- and think. ;)

TWcGE Wrote:
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> As a female here on Fairfax Underwear, I am
> honestly ok as long as the guy has the following-
>
> A) A car (or at least a drivers license or is able
> to get one)-
>
> TOO Many experiences with men who claimed to
> have a car "in the shop" and I had to play taxi
> EVERY TIME we went out- so here I was driving 20
> miles to get to his house (I live in the outer
> fringes of fairfax and dates were in
> arlington/alexandria/dc/etc), then driving another
> 5-10 miles to go out and do whatever, 10 miles
> back to his place, then another 20 back to mine.
> And was lucky if he offered to put $10 of gas in
> the car- when it was $4 a gallon. In a v8. And the
> one time I got sick to my stomach and still had to
> drive because he could not AT ALL. How are you
> going to be 27 years old and not know how to
> drive?????
>
> 2) A place of his OWN.
>
> Roommates were ok as long as he had his OWN
> room to retreat to (had some cool parties that
> way!). A crappy apartment was better than nothing,
> at least he had his own. Condo/TH/House desireable
> but I'm ok if not because starter houses around
> here cost 400k+. But coming over and having to
> walk past your mom and dad on the couch...not
> cool.
>
> III) a job and decent credit with at least a bank
> account and one credit card.
>
> Come on, anyone can get a prepaid debit card
> from 7-11 for their direct deposit (green dot,
> western union, etc) and put down $300 on a secured
> capital one visa at the least. Went to the hotel
> with one date and he didn't have a card at ALL to
> put the deposit for the hotel so I had to put up
> (and of course they charged my card for it). I did
> get the $112 bucks cash back from him, but damn
> your credit is that bad you can't even get a
> secured card? LOL!!!!
>
>
> Quatro) NO back child support owed or serious tax
> liens or being garnished AT ALL.
>
> If you can't handle your regular business,
> you have NO business wasting your money trying to
> date me. These are the same men who would try to
> move in with me/borrow my car/ask for money on the
> 2nd date. This also means if your paycheck is
> being garnished by 1/2 you won't be able to afford
> your own basic bills (rent, lights, cable,
> transportation, etc) and if we were to be a
> couple, you would be coming to me for money every
> month. I could see if the IRS got you but for your
> kids you had with another woman.... How about no.
> ADIOS MUCHACHOS!!!
>
> I am sick of the sob story "men" around here.
> Begging for money from me is NOT ATTRACTIVE. I can
> see if you needed to borrow $50 IF WE WERE ALREADY
> DATING but one had the nerve to straight up ask me
> for $1200 to pay his rent- I laughed. He got
> evicted and showed up on my doorstep with bags of
> his shit. I did pay $25 for the cab to the shelter
> (no not lamb center *waits on lamb center dude to
> post in here* LOL) and helped him load his things
> in it and handed him a $20 for food and said bye.
> He called me for months until he finally gave up.
> If you can't hold yourself down how you gonna hold
> me down too?
>
>
> Hope this made someone laugh- and think. ;)


This doesn't seem like an unreasonable expectation.

I have been on dates with lots of women (24-32 yrs old) who talk about these guys who don't work, play video games all day, and can't afford anything. I ask them how long they were with the guys. The overwhelming answer is 1-3 years. Really?!? You put up with that shit for that long? My thought is that there's something wrong with the woman who will tolerate that for an extended period of time. I understand that people lose their jobs and life happens. But there are jobs everywhere. It isn't that tough to be employed.

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> > If something sounds too good to be true,
> you’re
> > right.
>
> Or, it could be that expectations are set too low
> for most people.


you would say that

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> > causeican Wrote:
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> > > If something sounds too good to be true,
> > you’re
> > > right.
> >
> > Or, it could be that expectations are set too
> low
> > for most people.
>
>
> you would say that


You're right. I would. And I have high expectations. Life is way too short to put up with bullshit or surround yourself with people who choose not to contribute. I don't think it's too exceptional (in the metro DC area) to have a career that pays well (avg household income in Fairfax is $110k) or to actually treat people well or to not have a criminal record or to maintain at least some reasonable degree of healthy lifestyle. To me, these things are (and should be) viewed as normal.

I've found that it really doesn't matter if a guy has a lot going for him if he isn't willing to settle down. I'd rather be with someone sincere and modest who wants to start a family than a rich player who just wants to have fun. Many successful guys simply feel like they have too much to lose and won't get married or make a baby with anyone. Then most younger girls are just looking to have a good time and be spoiled so that can work out well for these guys.lol no commitments


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> as the other poster said Wrote:
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> > And trying to pick up women on FFXU. Sounds
> like
> > he was pretty spot on.
>
> I have no clue where things will lead and neither
> do you. If things work out, great. If they don't,
> I hope to have at least made a friend. You
> apparently haven't learned yet that you sometimes
> have to turn over a lot of rocks in order to find
> treasure. Maybe you should focus less energy on
> bashing people.