I open carry all the time switching between open and concealed (permit). These are my experience tips.

1. Act like you got sense and don't bring attention to fact that you are open carrying.

2. Keep your fucking hands off your gun and don't ever pull it out the holster unless you plan to use it. If you fuck around with it and make a scene with it... you are going to get arrested (brandishment) or shot by a COP (depending on how threating you are acting).

3. Stay the fuck out of DC, Maryland, federal/military enclaves, and the Metro. Stay the fuck away from schools/zones and nurseries.

4. If you go in a store and they ask you to leave....shut the fuck up and leave....chances are they are going to call the COPs on you....I never open carry in stores.

5. Chances are thousands of those billion cell phone users are going to call the COPs on you. Read and know viginia and local laws on carrying a handgun.

6. If a COPs stops you...cooperate...talk sensible...don't tell him, he don't know what he is talking about....I have been stopped many times but since I have a conceal carry permit I've been told to cover it up and I complied and went on my way.

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dika-dika Wrote:
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> I open carry all the time switching between open
> and concealed (permit). These are my experience
> tips.
>
> 1. Act like you got sense and don't bring
> attention to fact that you are open carrying.
>
> 2. Keep your fucking hands off your gun and don't
> ever pull it out the holster unless you plan to
> use it. If you fuck around with it and make a
> scene with it... you are going to get arrested
> (brandishment) or shot by a COP (depending on how
> threating you are acting).
>
> 3. Stay the fuck out of DC, Maryland,
> federal/military enclaves, and the Metro. Stay
> the fuck away from schools/zones and nurseries.
>
> 4. If you go in a store and they ask you to
> leave....shut the fuck up and leave....chances are
> they are going to call the COPs on you....I never
> open carry in stores.
>
> 5. Chances are thousands of those billion cell
> phone users are going to call the COPs on you.
> Read and know viginia and local laws on carrying a
> handgun.
>
> 6. If a COPs stops you...cooperate...talk
> sensible...don't tell him, he don't know what he
> is talking about....I have been stopped many times
> but since I have a conceal carry permit I've been
> told to cover it up and I complied and went on my
> way.


Great info here. You on VGT?

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I say "fuck" a lot...

Charleton Wrote:
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> thats whats up Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > why do all you rednecks feel its appropriate to
> > carry a weapon around in a shopping center? You
> > ever hear that 311 track 'Guns are for pussys'?
>
> Other than the Virginia Civilian Defense League's
> actions to call attention
> to the fact that OC is now perfectly legal, I have
> never seen anyone
> actually "OC'ing" in Fairfax. I have asked
> supermarket managers, restaurant
> owners, and store clerks if they have seen anyone
> doing this and none
> have said yes. Have you seen anyone OC'ing?
>
> I just like the idea that if we have to evacuate
> this area due to terrorist
> activity or whatever, I dont have to hide my
> pistol while trying to get
> out of town and I do not have a CCW.


I OC in Fairfax all the time. Now that i am not REQUIRED to OC in establishments serving booz for consumption on premises, its less often OC and more CC.



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I say "fuck" a lot...

dika-dika Wrote:
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> 3. Stay the fuck out of DC, Maryland,
> federal/military enclaves, and the Metro. Stay
> the fuck away from schools/zones and nurseries.
>

I would also stay off George Washington Parkway. A stretch of it is in DC.

http://www.vcdl.org/static/gwp.html

I OC a pistol when I'm out running in pre-dawn hours, just in case something happens. I've OC'd plenty of times in Fairfax county -- usually on my way to the range or on my way back, and I've OC'd while running errands. My little brother (who was working a late shift for a while) prevented two crimes in Virginia Beach with OC -- one, the suspected criminal walked into the 7-11 at 2AM with his hoodie pulled over his head to hide his face. He went straight towards the counter, saw my brother (and his .45 on his hip), turned around and ran out. In the second case, a stranger confronted him at a gas station (once again late night), and told my brother that he was going to buy this stranger a full tank of gas. My brother displayed his pistol (without pulling it from the holster), and the guy left. Imagine that.

However, I would NOT even consider OC if I planned to drink at all while I was out. Not only will it screw with your aim, it's also illegal to consume alcohol while carrying.

suicide by cop? Wrote:
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> OC Wrote:
> police if they see you carrying a gun.
> >
> > That's why I'm a bit nervous about open
> carrying.
> > Some idiots don't understand that it's my right
> as
> > a Virginian. Funny thing is, they should feel
> > safe, not scared, when they see people open
> > carrying.
>
>
> You're completely mad. There's no justification
> for the carrying of sidearms by civilians in a
> civil society. Sidearms are for killing people -
> and if you don't intend on killing someone, don't
> oc
>
> Open carry may be your lawful right but you will
> get justifiably hassled - I for one do not want
> untrained nutters carrying semi-automatics near my
> kids
>
> Its also a very fine line between open carry and
> brandishing which will get you more hassle than
> you want
>
> If you open carry, you are asking to get shot by
> mistake and no one will shed a tear
>
> if you're scared - live somewhere where you don't
> need a gun
>
> If you're worried about your manhood - sign up for
> a tour in Iraq

Exactly why I own and firearm and support gun right groups that promote training, safety, and a constitutional right.

Run-and-Gun Wrote:
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> However, I would NOT even consider OC if I planned
> to drink at all while I was out. Not only will it
> screw with your aim, it's also illegal to consume
> alcohol while carrying.


Except for cops.

It's actually not illegal to drink alcohol while carrying. As long as you are Open Carrying, you can drink. It is only illegal to drink while concealed.

In this area, I would think most people would see a plain clothed guy with a holstered sidearm on display and assume he is some sort of cop, not someone up to no good and requiring a call to the police.

I had the cops called on me once.I was in a 7-11 buying a Powerball ticket.
A Hispanic girl asked if I was a cop and I said no.
She faded back towards the cooler area and I heard her dial 3 digts on her phone.I figured 911,by then I had paid for my ticket and was leaving.
I was on foot.I then proceeded to walk back to my house.I took a shortcut thru a wooded area.Just as I stepped into the wooded area,3 squad cars came flying down the street with their lights out.They didn't see me.I proceeded home without incident.
If some one does what the Hispanic girl does,get out of the area as fast as possible.

Just saying if you wanted to kill someone, why would you OC, therefore people should feel safer by someone OCing than CCing. Especially if they look like a respectable and well trained person!

Open carry is a wonderful crime deterrent. It's also good because in a scenarion where you need to defensively use your weapon it's easily accessible as opposed to concealed carry. Another reason that I open carry is because I have not yet taken my concealed carry classes. Once I get the permit I'll stick to concealed carry. The main disadvantage of open carry is the tactical one. Also but highly unlikely you could become the victim of a gun grab. I advise people to always use situational awareness whenever open carrying.

b Wrote:
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> Open carry is a wonderful crime deterrent. It's
> also good because in a scenarion where you need to
> defensively use your weapon it's easily accessible
> as opposed to concealed carry. Another reason that
> I open carry is because I have not yet taken my
> concealed carry classes. Once I get the permit
> I'll stick to concealed carry. The main
> disadvantage of open carry is the tactical one.
> Also but highly unlikely you could become the
> victim of a gun grab. I advise people to always
> use situational awareness whenever open carrying.

You forgot one of the best features of open carry: It makes liberals and anti-gun zealots very uncomfortable.

The more people that open carry the more uncomfortable they become and hopefully that encourages them to move to another county/state/country.

I think more jigaboos should open carry.

If you don't like it GTFO Wrote:
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> b Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Open carry is a wonderful crime deterrent. It's
> > also good because in a scenarion where you need
> to
> > defensively use your weapon it's easily
> accessible
> > as opposed to concealed carry. Another reason
> that
> > I open carry is because I have not yet taken my
> > concealed carry classes. Once I get the permit
> > I'll stick to concealed carry. The main
> > disadvantage of open carry is the tactical one.
> > Also but highly unlikely you could become the
> > victim of a gun grab. I advise people to always
> > use situational awareness whenever open
> carrying.
>
> You forgot one of the best features of open carry:
> It makes liberals and anti-gun zealots very
> uncomfortable.
>
> The more people that open carry the more
> uncomfortable they become and hopefully that
> encourages them to move to another
> county/state/country.



IF YOU ARE USING A FIREARM TO MAKE PPL AFRAID, YOU ARE A THUG!

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> If you don't like it GTFO Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > b Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Open carry is a wonderful crime deterrent.
> It's
> > > also good because in a scenarion where you
> need
> > to
> > > defensively use your weapon it's easily
> > accessible
> > > as opposed to concealed carry. Another reason
> > that
> > > I open carry is because I have not yet taken
> my
> > > concealed carry classes. Once I get the
> permit
> > > I'll stick to concealed carry. The main
> > > disadvantage of open carry is the tactical
> one.
> > > Also but highly unlikely you could become the
> > > victim of a gun grab. I advise people to
> always
> > > use situational awareness whenever open
> > carrying.
> >
> > You forgot one of the best features of open
> carry:
> > It makes liberals and anti-gun zealots very
> > uncomfortable.
> >
> > The more people that open carry the more
> > uncomfortable they become and hopefully that
> > encourages them to move to another
> > county/state/country.
>
>
>
> IF YOU ARE USING A FIREARM TO MAKE PPL AFRAID, YOU
> ARE A THUG!

He said "uncomfortable" not afraid. There's a huge difference.

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> If you don't like it GTFO Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > b Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Open carry is a wonderful crime deterrent.
> It's
> > > also good because in a scenarion where you
> need
> > to
> > > defensively use your weapon it's easily
> > accessible
> > > as opposed to concealed carry. Another reason
> > that
> > > I open carry is because I have not yet taken
> my
> > > concealed carry classes. Once I get the
> permit
> > > I'll stick to concealed carry. The main
> > > disadvantage of open carry is the tactical
> one.
> > > Also but highly unlikely you could become the
> > > victim of a gun grab. I advise people to
> always
> > > use situational awareness whenever open
> > carrying.
> >
> > You forgot one of the best features of open
> carry:
> > It makes liberals and anti-gun zealots very
> > uncomfortable.
> >
> > The more people that open carry the more
> > uncomfortable they become and hopefully that
> > encourages them to move to another
> > county/state/country.
>
>
>
> IF YOU ARE USING A FIREARM TO MAKE PPL AFRAID, YOU
> ARE A THUG!

Afraid?...please. And I think your caps lock is stuck you retard.

I seriously doubt anyone is open carrying specifically to piss off liberals.

That's just an added bonus.

I open carry because its a fantastic crime deterrent. As one user said becoming a gun grab victim is.possible but highly unlikely. There was one case recently where an open carrier had his gun stolen. He unfortunately was murdered with it. The 16 year old kid grabbed it and the now unarmed victim stupidly chased him. Once I get my concealed permit I'll open carry and carry a concealed back up gun. I've also applied to become a deputy I'm Fairfax. If I'm hired it won't matter because I'll be covered under LEOSA.

Chocolate Dirty Harry Wrote:
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> I open carry because its a fantastic crime
> deterrent. As one user said becoming a gun grab
> victim is.possible but highly unlikely. There was
> one case recently where an open carrier had his
> gun stolen. He unfortunately was murdered with it.
> The 16 year old kid grabbed it and the now unarmed
> victim stupidly chased him. Once I get my
> concealed permit I'll open carry and carry a
> concealed back up gun. I've also applied to become
> a deputy I'm Fairfax. If I'm hired it won't matter
> because I'll be covered under LEOSA.


You're going to end up in the prison as a FFX Deputy...and you won't be armed on duty. The idea of doubling-up off duty is RETARDED. Hopefully they'll weed you out during the psyche eval.

You are a retard and people like you are the reason Racism and rampant hatred are still running amuck through our Country. That is kind of a reason I OC. In the area I live there are a lot of minorities and about 1 or more out of 3 times a minority that is a military aged male looks at me and probably wishes I would trip on my shoe and bust my face open right there. But you still have to wonder at what point does the racial cycle stop or at least slow down. Only as we grow further from the Country's regrettable past will we really begin to totally shed all racism and bigotry. Make it start with you and don't say anymore dumb shit like that.

They just want you to use shorter names when posting.

At gonads. Fuck you. Open carry is a right. If your dumb ass dislikes it so much then take your gun hating ass to Great Britain.

Chocolate Dirty Harry Wrote:
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> At gonads. Fuck you. Open carry is a right. If
> your dumb ass dislikes it so much then take your
> gun hating ass to Great Britain.


The fuck you think you're talking to? I open carry when I'm too lazy to find a shirt that doesn't make my IWB holster print in the back. I dislike OC because it allows RETARDS who probably shouldn't be allowed to own a firearm to begin with carry one around. I believe citizens should be allowed to own and carry any amount of firearms they want. I also believe there should be more restrictions on who gets to own/carry depending on the type of weapon including mandatory weapon registration and owner mental evaulations as well as annual qualification plus a one-time intensive school - and not some bullshit week long 5 hour total thing where you just sit in a room and get a certificate. I mean a fucking weapons school where you learn how to not be a complete fucking idiot with a weapon in different scenarios. If more people went to a school like that TRAVON WOULD STILL BE ALIVE!!!!!

(ok, that last part was for lols but you catch my drift)

I still think OC, outside the appropriate setting, is just a provocation and a way to draw unnecessary attention to yourself.

Hypothetically, if I was a criminal and looking to rob someone, the guy with the gun on his hip is a nice, juicy target, especially if he's by himself. I now know what kind of weapon you have, where you have it, and to not approach you from the front. In addition to your wallet, I now have a gun that I could use to rob other people or sell to another criminal for a couple hundred bucks.

I think most of these "I OC EVERYWHERE" people are just looking for trouble. Just get your CC permit and do the smart thing.

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MrMephisto Wrote:
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> I still think OC, outside the appropriate setting,
> is just a provocation and a way to draw
> unnecessary attention to yourself.
>
> Hypothetically, if I was a criminal and looking to
> rob someone, the guy with the gun on his hip is a
> nice, juicy target, especially if he's by himself.
> I now know what kind of weapon you have, where you
> have it, and to not approach you from the front.
> In addition to your wallet, I now have a gun that
> I could use to rob other people or sell to another
> criminal for a couple hundred bucks.
>
> I think most of these "I OC EVERYWHERE" people are
> just looking for trouble. Just get your CC permit
> and do the smart thing.

I slightly agree but mostly disagree. For the very reason that the police department has marked vehicles and uniformed patrol and or security guards, its the presence and sight that deters crime. Unfortunately, there are no statistics on how many crimes are prevented just by the presence of firearms being openly displayed by citizens, but I'm sure the case exists.

Point is, if your point is for us to have a tactical advantage in response to a crime by CC'ing, which could've potentially been avoided all together by CC'ing... get my drift?

I do think the "OC Everywhere" crowd is a bit extreme and that's not my style, but I do understand the point behind it and the benefit it brings to society.

JustanFYI Wrote:
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> I slightly agree but mostly disagree. For the
> very reason that the police department has marked
> vehicles and uniformed patrol and or security
> guards, its the presence and sight that deters
> crime.

The big differences here are authority, accountability, and training.

Authority: Cops have uniforms and marked vehicles to distinguish themselves from civilians because they're authorized to use force to prevent crime. There's no question about the legality of a cop pulling his gun on you if you're robbing a store. As a civilian in Virginia, you're only legally allowed to use your gun if you have a reasonable belief that you or someone else is in immediate, life-threatening danger from which they cannot escape. Outside that situation, it's a very gray area for civilians.

Accountability: Cops have clear guidelines and protocols for using guns. If they do shoot someone in the line of duty, they have an internal system for making sure that their use of force was in accordance with their duty and the law. Civilians' actions are judged only by the law, and even if they're legal and necessary, a civilian could still be taken to civil court and sued for injury and death. Plus, most criminals know that the penalties for shooting a cop are much more severe than shooting a civilian.

Training: Cops have professional training on how to handle a high-stress situation, such as preventing a crime in progress. Most civilians do not, and are more likely to be a danger to others.

> Point is, if your point is for us to have a
> tactical advantage in response to a crime by
> CC'ing, which could've potentially been avoided
> all together by CC'ing... get my drift?

I see your point, but again, civilians aren't allowed to carry guns to prevent crimes; they're only allowed to carry guns for self-defense. Sure, a cop might look the other way if you help prevent a crime, but that's not a guarantee.

Most criminals are already on-edge while committing a crime and tend to panic if things don't go as planned. If you're in a store that's being robbed, your safest course of action is to just let the criminal take the money and leave. If you try to engage the criminal and put them in a situation they didn't plan for, the chance that you or someone else is going to get shot greatly increases.

Of course, there's a chance that they walk in, see your weapon, and decide to find an easier target. But, there's also a chance that they walk in, see your weapon, and decide to neutralize you first.

> I do think the "OC Everywhere" crowd is a bit
> extreme and that's not my style, but I do
> understand the point behind it and the benefit it
> brings to society.

If it's a group of people open carrying, then yes, there is a benefit. If it's a single person open carrying, I think it's more of a liability than anything.

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MrMephisto Wrote:
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> I still think OC, outside the appropriate setting,
> is just a provocation and a way to draw
> unnecessary attention to yourself.

Yep. That's exactly what these buffoons crave though -- they aren't happy unless they're attracting attention to themselves. Poor things.

Is it okay to open carry at the pool?
Attachments:

Most people that carry guns would piss their pants if they needed to pull it out, drug dealers love you gun owners, they steal your guns daily.

OK, LET ASK THIS QUESTION. UNLESS YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN PROPERTY, OPEN CARRY IN MARYLAND IS TOTALLY VERBOTEN. GOD LUCK TRYING TO GET A CONCEALED PERMIT IN MOM'S STATE. GET CAUGHT CARRYING PERIOD, AND YOUR ASS IS IN BIIIIG TROUBLE

Tio Filipe Wrote:
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> OK, LET ASK THIS QUESTION. UNLESS YOU ARE ON YOUR
> OWN PROPERTY, OPEN CARRY IN MARYLAND IS TOTALLY
> VERBOTEN. GOD LUCK TRYING TO GET A CONCEALED
> PERMIT IN MOM'S STATE. GET CAUGHT CARRYING PERIOD,
> AND YOUR ASS IS IN BIIIIG TROUBLE

So what's the question?

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13 4826 0948 82695 25847. Yes.

You can open carry on the portions of metro that are in VA.

You say "Semi-automatic" like it is a scare term. Last I checked, all guns sold were semi automatics except flintlocks, bolt actions and muskets.

Just say what you feel: You don't like people carrying guns. Perfectly reasonably view, although I disagree with it. Just be honest with yourself. Don't hide behind arbitrary scare terms.



suicide by cop? Wrote:
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> OC Wrote:
> police if they see you carrying a gun.
> >
> > That's why I'm a bit nervous about open
> carrying.
> > Some idiots don't understand that it's my right
> as
> > a Virginian. Funny thing is, they should feel
> > safe, not scared, when they see people open
> > carrying.
>
>
> You're completely mad. There's no justification
> for the carrying of sidearms by civilians in a
> civil society. Sidearms are for killing people -
> and if you don't intend on killing someone, don't
> oc
>
> Open carry may be your lawful right but you will
> get justifiably hassled - I for one do not want
> untrained nutters carrying semi-automatics near my
> kids
>
> Its also a very fine line between open carry and
> brandishing which will get you more hassle than
> you want
>
> If you open carry, you are asking to get shot by
> mistake and no one will shed a tear
>
> if you're scared - live somewhere where you don't
> need a gun
>
> If you're worried about your manhood - sign up for
> a tour in Iraq

Yes. Drug dealers are excellent shots. I see them at the range all of the time. Be careful. These guys have honed their skills.


Mike777 Wrote:
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> Most people that carry guns would piss their pants
> if they needed to pull it out, drug dealers love
> you gun owners, they steal your guns daily.

I think gun owners should be on a public registery, do to the fact so many kids are killed by accident playing with some home owners gun. They could even be charged a yearly fee.

Bill 89 you're an idiot. Thank God your dumb ass isn't in congress. You dumb anti gun zealot move to Britian. I hope you find yourself in a scenario where you need a gun and are unarmed. You fucking fool. Also I say to those who open carry, don't go up to the colonade shopping center. Those fools have gotten me banned from their due to open carry.

chocolate dirty harry Wrote:
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> Those fools have gotten me banned from their due
> to open carry.

I am shocked -- SHOCKED -- that an OCM (Open-Carry Monkey) would have such poor grammar. Really hard to believe. :-)

I have seen open carry wing nuts try to figure out how to wear a gun in the shower.

Freakin' losers...

Wiggy,Wiggy.....so much time in the shower

Wiggro dropped the soap again. Somebody Show him where the gun gos

bill89 Wrote:
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> I think gun owners should be on a public
> registery, do to the fact so many kids are killed
> by accident playing with some home owners gun.
> They could even be charged a yearly fee.

I think prospective parents should be tested and licensed before they are allowed to procreate.
And have to reregister bi-yearly.
Defiantly a child tax
Children are required to be leashed until age six
Muzzled in public

If you want to pocess a firearm, you are required to be shot once.
You can then purchase as many weapons as you want.

Total dweebs who couldn't punch their way out of a paper bag, much less keep from getting bitch slapped and their wallets taken, are known to open carry:

http://www.apachesurvival.com/2011/12/open-carry-where-legal.html

Open carry is fun but sadly some Fairfax county cops dislike it. One day I got stopped and that fat ogre woman cop felt me up but that bitch didn't touch the white people. Also I even got banned from a shopping center for open carrying. It's detestable in the name of God. Whites open carry all the time but the moment a black guy does it they get him banned. Straight up bullshit. This is why I don't like living around white people. It's never fair for us black folk.

chocolate dirty harry Wrote:
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> Open carry is fun but sadly some Fairfax county
> cops dislike it. One day I got stopped and that
> fat ogre woman cop felt me up but that bitch
> didn't touch the white people. Also I even got
> banned from a shopping center for open carrying.
> It's detestable in the name of God. Whites open
> carry all the time but the moment a black guy does
> it they get him banned. Straight up bullshit. This
> is why I don't like living around white people.
> It's never fair for us black folk.

I've seen all kinds of races open carry... the one that scares people the most is Asians. And none of them still have all the trouble you just described. I have a suspicion you were being a douche.

I oc because I can. If guns bother you in Va vote with your feet and move to wonderful maryland. Va is a conservative commonwealth dickwads (except for NOVA. ugh) what the hell do you expect?

chocolate dirty harry Wrote:
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> Open carry is fun but sadly some Fairfax county
> cops dislike it. One day I got stopped and that
> fat ogre woman cop felt me up but that bitch
> didn't touch the white people. Also I even got
> banned from a shopping center for open carrying.
> It's detestable in the name of God. Whites open
> carry all the time but the moment a black guy does
> it they get him banned. Straight up bullshit. This
> is why I don't like living around white people.
> It's never fair for us black folk.

You were banned because you are black, not because you had a gun. I commend management for having the balls to approach an armed black guy and tell him to GTFO

Upon reaching adulthood every physically able Swiss male does mandatory military service. They are allowed to take their fully automatic assault rifles home. There's an assault rifle in (almost every) Swiss home. Shooting is their national sport, with participants from every demographic group. Their gun crime rate is extremely low compared to ours.
"
Would you "It's those nasty guns that cause the crime" folks please explain that.

Employ whatever sophistry you can. You cannot deny the responsibility of the individual committing the crime.

Know it all Wrote:
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> Oh let the most likely 5'6, slightly balding white
> male drive his massive ford f-350 extended cab and
> bed pick up truck (because the truck is warranted:
> single male who has some small office job) to
> where ever he wants and open carry. He isn't
> making up for anything, he just wants everyone to
> know not to mess with him because he has his six
> shooter on his hip.


I know a 5'2" 85lb girl that open carries.

Clearly you have your head in your sphincter if you think that your stereotypical balderdash means anything. You clearly don't know anything.

A synopsis of Virginia state laws on purchase, possession and carrying of firearms.

PURCHASE AND POSSESSION

No state permit is required to otherwise purchase or possess a rifle, shotgun or handgun. Virginia residents may purchase firearms from any licensed Federal Firearms Licensee, even if they are out of state. A criminal history record information check is required prior to purchasing any firearm, except for an antique or its replica. A fee of $2.00 will be collected for such a check. For non-residents it is $5.00.

CARRYING

The open carrying of a handgun in Virginia is lawful. The carrying of any concealed firearm by a person about his person, hidden from common observation, is prohibited.

Exceptions to this prohibition include:

carrying in one’s place of abode or the curtilage thereof.
carrying a loaded handgun by persons who may lawfully possess such gun, inside an unlocked vehicle compartment or container, within reach of a driver or passenger who does not possess a concealed weapons permit.
any regularly enrolled member of a target shooting organization who is at, or going to or from, an established shooting range, provided that the weapons are unloaded and securely wrapped while being transported.
any regularly enrolled member of a weapons collection organization who is at, or going to or from, a bonafide weapons exhibition, provided the weapons are unloaded and securely wrapped while being transported.
any person carrying such weapons between his place of abode and a place of purchase or repair, provided the weapons are unloaded and securely wrapped while being transported.
any person actually engaged in lawful hunting under inclement weather conditions necessitating temporary protection of his firearm.
a retired law-enforcement officer who receives proof of consultation and favorable review is authorized to carry a concealed handgun in the same manner as a law-enforcement officer authorized to carry a concealed handgun.
any of the following retired officers with 20 years of service or more; any State Police officer retired from the Department of State Police, any officer retired from the Division of Capitol Police, any local law-enforcement officer, any auxiliary police officer or animal control officer retired from a police department or sheriff's office within the Commonwealth, any special agent retired from the State Corporation Commission or the Alcoholic Beverage Control Board, any conservation police officer retired from the Department of Game and Inland Fisheries, and any Virginia Marine Police officer retired from the Law Enforcement Division of the Virginia Marine Resources Commission. All such persons must carry written proof of consultation with and favorable review of the need to carry a concealed handgun issued by the chief officer of the agency from which he/she resigned.

A person 21 years of age or older may apply in writing to the Clerk of the Circuit Court of the county or city in which the applicant resides for a permit to carry a concealed handgun. A member of the united states armed forces may apply to the city or county of which they are domiciled. The application shall be made under oath, before a notary or other person qualified to take oaths, and shall be made on a form prescribed by the Supreme Court, requiring only that information necessary to determine eligibility for the permit. No information or documentation other than that which is allowed on the application in accordance with law may be requested or required by the clerk or the court




PREEMPTION

No locality shall adopt or enforce any ordinance, resolution or motion, as permitted by § 15.2-1425, and no agent of such locality shall take any administrative action, governing the purchase, possession, transfer, ownership, carrying, storage or transporting of firearms, ammunition,

VA. CODE ANN. §15.2-915 (2011)

§ 15.2-915. Control of firearms; applicability to authorities and local governmental agencies

A. No locality shall adopt or enforce any ordinance, resolution or motion, as permitted by § 15.2-1425, and no agent of such locality shall take any administrative action, governing the purchase, possession, transfer, ownership, carrying, storage or transporting of firearms, ammunition, or components or combination thereof other than those expressly authorized by statute. For purposes of this section, a statute that does not refer to firearms, ammunition, or components or combination thereof, shall not be construed to provide express authorization.

Nothing in this section shall prohibit a locality from adopting workplace rules relating to terms and conditions of employment of the workforce. Nothing in this section shall prohibit a law-enforcement officer, as defined in § 9.1- 101 from acting within the scope of his duties.

The provisions of this section applicable to a locality shall also apply to any authority or to a local governmental entity, including a department or agency, but not including any local or regional jail or juvenile detention facility.

B. Any local ordinance, resolution or motion adopted prior to the effective date of this act governing the purchase, possession, transfer, ownership, carrying or transporting of firearms, ammunition, or components or combination thereof, other than those expressly authorized by statute, is invalid.

The court clerk shall be immune from suit arising from any acts or omissions relating to the issuance of concealed handgun permits without judicial review unless the clerk was grossly negligent or engaged in willful misconduct. This shall not be construed to limit, withdraw, or overturn any defense or immunity already existing in statutory or common law, or to affect any cause of action accruing prior to July 1, 2010.

The copy of a concealed handgun permit application becomes a de facto permit if the court does not grant or deny the permit within a 45-day period of the receipt of the application. If the court has not issued the permit or determined that the applicant is disqualified within 45 days of the date of receipt noted on the application, the clerk shall certify on the application that the 45-day period has expired, and mail or send via electronic mail a copy of the certified application to the applicant within five business days of the expiration of the 45-day period. Once the court grants or denies the application, the person either surrenders the de facto permit to the court or the person will be issued a concealed handgun permit.

A disqualified person includes:

one who is ineligible to purchase, transport, or possess a firearm;
a person who it is alleged, in a sworn written statement submitted to the court, that in the opinion of such sheriff, chief of police or attorney for the Commonwealth, is likely to use a weapon unlawfully or negligently to endanger others based upon personal knowledge or upon the sworn written statement of a competent person having personal knowledge;
a habitual drunkard or an addict or unlawful user of a controlled substance;
an individual that has been dishonorably discharged from the U.S. armed forces;
an illegal alien;
a person who, in the preceding three years, has been convicted of drunkenness or a violent misdemeanor; or
a person who within the preceding 5 years was involuntarily committed.

The court may require proof that the applicant has demonstrated competence with a handgun. Proof includes;

completion of a firearm training course offered by the NRA, the state, or a school;
participation in an organized shooting competition or military service, or any governmental police agency firearms course; or
previously having held a firearm carrying license.

I openly scorn and make fun of OCers right to their fat, bearded faces.

Civilized society? Here? All you bleeding heart liberals that oppose civilian ownership of sidearms should look at the statistics on other "civilized" countries' banning of ownership among its civilians. The criminals will still get their guns. Violent crimes and robberies have skyrocketed since honest civilians had their guns taken from them. A criminal always prefers an unarmed victim. I won't be a victim. Any left-winger stuck in a situation where an armed criminal is committing a violent act would surely stick to their core beliefs and simply ask the gunman to disarm himself peaceably, right? I'd like to think that if a legally armed citizen stood up and returned fire, that same left-winger may have a change of heart and thank the responsible good samaritan for his heroic act in defense of the defenseless. You people make me sick. Have some common sense.

DyingBreed Wrote:
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> I won't be a victim.

Too late. You're already a victim of your own stupidity. Clearly. :-)

Kilton Wrote:
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> DyingBreed Wrote:
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> > I won't be a victim.
>
> Too late. You're already a victim of your own
> stupidity. Clearly. :-)


Aww, it looks like someone's delicate sensibilities were hurt. Poor baby.

20/20 Wrote:
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> Aww, it looks like someone's delicate
> sensibilities were hurt. Poor baby.

I think you're right -- DyingBreed's sensibilities were indeed hurt by this thread. That's why he lashed out and responded in such an angry way.

Great observation. :-)

Open carry = Amateur carry.

Kilton Wrote:
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> 20/20 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
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> > Aww, it looks like someone's delicate
> > sensibilities were hurt. Poor baby.
>
> I think you're right -- DyingBreed's sensibilities
> were indeed hurt by this thread. That's why he
> lashed out and responded in such an angry way.
>
> Great observation. :-)


Aww, you felt the need to respond. Poor little whiney baby.

Wiggro Wrote:
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> Open carry = Amateur carry.\


So don"t open carry. Whats with the obsession with this thread?

Check out this Ultradouche walking around with his big manly gun and a video camera, looking for trouble: http://www.liveleak.com//view?i=589_1345502474

Gotta love how the open carriers put their free time to good use. :-)

20/20 Wrote:
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> Aww, you felt the need to respond. Poor little
> whiney baby.

It seems like I've upset you. I'm really sorry about that. :-)

you should be sorry...if you aren't he'll open carry right up to you, stick his phallic compensator gun in your face and MAKE you sorry!

Gonads & Strife Wrote:
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> you should be sorry...if you aren't he'll open
> carry right up to you, stick his phallic
> compensator gun in your face and MAKE you sorry!

It's pretty clear what kind of crowd you hang out with if you think this is normal for someone open carrying.

Bill S. Wrote:
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> It's pretty clear what kind of crowd you hang out
> with if you think this is normal for someone open
> carrying.

Oh it's normal alright. This scenario, along with the video I linked above, pretty much provide full coverage of open carriers.

Bill S. Wrote:
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> Gonads & Strife Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > you should be sorry...if you aren't he'll open
> > carry right up to you, stick his phallic
> > compensator gun in your face and MAKE you
> sorry!
>
> It's pretty clear what kind of crowd you hang out
> with if you think this is normal for someone open
> carrying.


It's pretty clear you don't read threads before commenting like you know me. I OC when I'm too lazy to put on an extra layer to CC but either way I have my carry weapon on me every day. That said, I know enough retarded gun nuts to know that most have a serious complex of one sort or another and probably shouldn't be allowed to carry a weapon in public at all. I know how that must sound to you people since the universe revolves around northern virginia and nothing is ever applied to the population as a whole, but that's how my statement is meant to be taken.

Kilton Wrote:
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> 20/20 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Aww, you felt the need to respond. Poor little
> > whiney baby.
>
> It seems like I've upset you. I'm really sorry
> about that. :-)


You are the one that appears upset. You are even crying about it. Don't take it so seriously and personally.

Why is it that I've never seen anyone OC in Fairfax? I get around as much
as anyone else but it hasn't happened yet. (With the exception of the VCDL
events) If OC is as prevalent as some on this thread would insinuate there
must be OC'rs all over the place. Why don't I see them? (My vision is 20/20)

Gun owners are simply a threat to real figures of authority such as police officers. After all these mass shootings by redneck, beer swillin', gun totin' asshats who were excercising their rights as Amurricans to bear arms I think the cops have an obligation to stop you if they see you in public with a gun and ascertain whether or not you're mentally fit to own a firearm and if not they should take your weapon and send your ass on your merry way but not before they get a warrant to remove any other weapons from your home. I know what some of you might say, POLICE STATE! but it's for the greater good. No more shootings like in CO or TRAYVON!

WhyNot? Wrote:
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> Why is it that I've never seen anyone OC in
> Fairfax? I get around as much
> as anyone else but it hasn't happened yet. (With
> the exception of the VCDL
> events) If OC is as prevalent as some on this
> thread would insinuate there
> must be OC'rs all over the place. Why don't I see
> them? (My vision is 20/20)


I don't open carry or even own a firearm but would not think about imposing my views on those that wish to. Open carry is only prevalent in the minds of those that are opposed to such a practice. They can't help it. They are conditioned to be nitwits. They are incapable of thinking for themselves.

Gonads & Strife Wrote:
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> Bill S. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Gonads & Strife Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > you should be sorry...if you aren't he'll
> open
> > > carry right up to you, stick his phallic
> > > compensator gun in your face and MAKE you
> > sorry!
> >
> > It's pretty clear what kind of crowd you hang
> out
> > with if you think this is normal for someone
> open
> > carrying.
>
>
> It's pretty clear you don't read threads before
> commenting like you know me. I OC when I'm too
> lazy to put on an extra layer to CC but either way
> I have my carry weapon on me every day. That said,
> I know enough retarded gun nuts to know that most
> have a serious complex of one sort or another and
> probably shouldn't be allowed to carry a weapon in
> public at all. I know how that must sound to you
> people since the universe revolves around northern
> virginia and nothing is ever applied to the
> population as a whole, but that's how my statement
> is meant to be taken.

"phallic compensator" was all I needed to read to know your type.

With VERY few exception, your everyday citizen that carries a gun is law abaiding, and safe esp. if you have a CCW.

Perhaps you might want to have a little more faith in your fellow man.

"> That's why I'm a bit nervous about open carrying.
> Some idiots don't understand that it's my right as
> a Virginian. Funny thing is, they should feel
> safe, not scared, when they see people open
> carrying."

Its exactly why I'm afraid. The only thing that is 'safer' is the little guy in your pants. I know the gorillas out there will get guns one way or another, but you carrying one around in your bvd's isn't helping anyone.

People who equate gun ownership with penis size have small weiners. Your response to this comment will be confirmation of that fact.

Kilton...tell me...did it surprise you that he zeroed in on "phallic compensator"? Me neither.


Sadly you're very very wrong on the whole "your everyday citizen that carries a gun...is...safe" statement. Unfortunately most people that carry guns aren't safe...they're fucking retarded. If you OC without a CHP then you probably don't have any specialized training. If you consider your safety lesson what your pops taught you when you were a kid growing up handling guns then you're still retarded in my eyes and can't be trusted. The standard of proficiency in this country is shit because of how many idiots there are lowering the bar every day. Just because your pops said it's totally fine to clean your guns with WD40 doesn't make him right. There are a few very basic rules to gun handling, but handling isn't the whole story. Storage and use in different scenarios count for a hell of a lot and I find it doubtful that that most everyday gun carrying citizens are equiped with the knowledge they need to responsibly carry and use a firearm.

Don't believe me? Work at a gun range. I was an NRA certified MRSO and used to work at a large local indoor range. Humanity is fucked.

OC Ocean Wrote:
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> Gun owners are simply a threat to real figures of
> authority such as police officers. After all these
> mass shootings by redneck, beer swillin', gun
> totin' asshats who were excercising their rights
> as Amurricans to bear arms I think the cops have
> an obligation to stop you if they see you in
> public with a gun and ascertain whether or not
> you're mentally fit to own a firearm and if not
> they should take your weapon and send your ass on
> your merry way but not before they get a warrant
> to remove any other weapons from your home. I know
> what some of you might say, POLICE STATE! but it's
> for the greater good. No more shootings like in CO
> or TRAYVON!

Bullshit.

People who equate penis size with people who equate gun ownership with penis size don't have a sense of humor.

Let's be honest, the only people who equate ownership of powerful objects to penis size are lesbian feminazi psychiatrists.

Gonads & Strife Wrote:
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> People who equate penis size with people who
> equate gun ownership with penis size don't have a
> sense of humor.

People who get upset at people who equate penis size with gun ownership are small-penised gun owners. That's how you tell who's who -- you equate, then you sit back and see who gets annoyed. :-)

20/20 Wrote:
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> I don't open carry or even own a firearm but would
> not think about imposing my views on those that
> wish to.

Wow, that's quite a sentence. I wonder, how does one "impose" their views via a silly Internet forum? Explain it to us. :-)

Kilton Wrote:
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> Gonads & Strife Wrote:
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> > People who equate penis size with people who
> > equate gun ownership with penis size don't have
> a
> > sense of humor.
>
> People who get upset at people who equate penis
> size with gun ownership are small-penised gun
> owners. That's how you tell who's who -- you
> equate, then you sit back and see who gets
> annoyed. :-)

You like talking about penis size. Are you upset because you have a small one?


> Wow, that's quite a sentence. I wonder, how does
> one "impose" their views via a silly Internet
> forum? Explain it to us. :-)


Yes, because a silly internet forum is the only threat to gun ownership. Get out of your mom's basement sometime and you might realize there is more to this world than Fairfax Underground.

Anybody hear any rumblings in Richmond lately about repealing the
OC or CCW laws? I haven't.

20/20 Wrote:
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> Yes, because a silly internet forum is the only
> threat to gun ownership. Get out of your mom's
> basement sometime and you might realize there is
> more to this world than Fairfax Underground.

In other words, there's no "imposing" going on here on FFU. Glad we cleared that up. Makes a person wonder why you brought it up in the first place. It's almost as if you were a bit confuzzled. :-)

dika-dika Wrote:
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>
> 1. Act like you got sense

In other words this moron ( dika-dika) has no "sense."

Act like you got sense? You need to take a few remedial english classes.

Kilton Wrote:
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> 20/20 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
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> > Yes, because a silly internet forum is the only
> > threat to gun ownership. Get out of your mom's
> > basement sometime and you might realize there
> is
> > more to this world than Fairfax Underground.
>
> In other words, there's no "imposing" going on
> here on FFU. Glad we cleared that up. Makes a
> person wonder why you brought it up in the first
> place. It's almost as if you were a bit
> confuzzled. :-)

Really? Confuzzled? Point to the sentence in this thread where I indicated that imposing was occurring in this forum. What's that? You can't, confuzzled one? Troll away troll.

If you really love your gun so much,go suck it.
Talk is cheap on this forum.

Life's losers open carry.

dika-dika Wrote: Lets look at what the d-bag open cary Illiterate idiot wrote
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> I open carry all the time switching between open
> and concealed (permit). These are my experience
> tips.

Experience tips?

>
> 1. Act like you got sense - No brainer someone else already mentioned this

and don't bring attention to fact that you are open carrying.- Kinda hard not to numb nuts when you are open carry. Brain to keyboard does not work? lol
>
> 2. Keep your fucking hands off your gun and don't
> ever pull it out the holster unless you plan to
> use it. - Really dip? Great advice.

If you fuck around with it and make a
> scene with it... you are going to get arrested
> (brandishment) or shot by a COP (depending on how
> threating you are acting). Too many periods and you did not need to use so many parentheses.
>
> 3. Stay the fuck out of DC, Maryland,
> federal/military enclaves, and the Metro. Stay
> the fuck away from schools/zones and nurseries.- 3rd time you have used the word fuck. You are the reason why gun owners look so bad.
>

>
> 5. Chances are thousands of those billion cell
> phone users are going to call the COPs on you.
> Read and know viginia and local laws on carrying a
> handgun.- Doubt you would encounter 1 billion people carying a cell phone in a day nor your entire life stupid boy.
>
> 6. If a COPs stops you...cooperate- Cops or cop? Moron.


> talk sensible- Doubt you have the ability.

...don't tell him, he don't know what he
> is talking about....I have been stopped many times
> but since I have a conceal carry permit I've been
> told to cover it up and I complied and went on my
> way. - I can only imagine why you have been stoped so many times.

Now here is a perfect exaple of someone who should not own a firearm.

20/20 Wrote:
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> Point to the sentence in
> this thread where I indicated that imposing was
> occurring in this forum.

Sure thing. You responded to the thread with the following bizarre, out-of-nowhere comment: "I don't open carry or even own a firearm but would not think about imposing my views on those that wish to."

There had been no discussion on this entire page about anyone imposing anything, on FFU or otherwise. No discussion about efforts to get OC banned, etc. So there are only two reasons why you would write the above sentence: 1) You didn't know what impose means (i.e., you thought people on FFU were "imposing"), or 2) You're just an idiot who can't manage to participate in a discussion in a coherent, relevant fashion.

Let me know which one it is. :-)

Its #2

I always open carry when I exit the basement.
Once a month to pick up my welfare check.

I love you guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Attachments:

Whose is this a photo of
Zero?
Wiggro?
Yucky24?
Gonads And Strife?

I'm so confused.
IGuess I'll go

Do I Stay or do I go? Wrote:
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> Whose is this a photo of
> Zero?
> Wiggro?
> Yucky24?
> Gonads And & Strife?
>
> I'm so confused.
> IGuess I'll go


Get it right

Kilton Wrote:
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> 20/20 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
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> > Point to the sentence in
> > this thread where I indicated that imposing was
> > occurring in this forum.
>
> Sure thing. You responded to the thread with the
> following bizarre, out-of-nowhere comment: "I
> don't open carry or even own a firearm but would
> not think about imposing my views on those that
> wish to."


Sorry, that statement does not indicate that I accused anyone in this forum of imposing their views on anyone else. For you to think otherwise is a stretch. I am also sorry that your education did not include more lessons in reading comprehension. It is people like you that demonstrate the need for more money to be spent on public education. Troll away, troll.

That's strange -- I don't recall using the word accuse. What was that you were saying about reading comprehension? :-)

Kilton Wrote:
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> That's strange -- I don't recall using the word
> accuse. What was that you were saying about
> reading comprehension? :-)


Wow, someone needs a thesaurus and a reading comprhension lesson. Troll away, troll.

20/20 Wrote:
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> Kilton Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
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> > That's strange -- I don't recall using the word
> > accuse. What was that you were saying about
> > reading comprehension? :-)
>
>
> Wow, someone needs a thesaurus and a reading
> comprhension lesson. Troll away, troll.


Lol, the grammer police needs a spelling lesson "comprhension" really? Troll away, troll.

Bill S. Wrote:
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> 20/20 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Kilton Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > That's strange -- I don't recall using the
> word
> > > accuse. What was that you were saying about
> > > reading comprehension? :-)
> >
> >
> > Wow, someone needs a thesaurus and a reading
> > comprhension lesson. Troll away, troll.
>
>
> Lol, the grammer police needs a spelling lesson
> "comprhension" really? Troll away, troll.


Ya got me. More like a typing lesson, but well played, sir.

Wiggerness Wrote:
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> Life's losers open carry.

BORN TO LOSE, cauz
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Bill S. Wrote:
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> Lol, the grammer police needs a spelling lesson
> "comprhension" really? Troll away, troll.

Seriously. You'd think a person would actually proofread their post when they're trying to give a grammar lesson. Maybe his vision isn't 20/20 afterall. :-)

Kilton Wrote:
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> Bill S. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Lol, the grammer police needs a spelling lesson
> > "comprhension" really? Troll away, troll.
>
> Seriously. You'd think a person would actually
> proofread their post when they're trying to give a
> grammar lesson. Maybe his vision isn't 20/20
> afterall. :-)


You actually proofread your posts here? Someone takes this stuff too seriously. Do you know the difference between grammar and spelling? Not only do you need a thesaurus and a reading comprehension lesson, you need a grammar tutorial. At the very least, you need to know what each of those mean. Troll away, troll.

20/20 Wrote:
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> You actually proofread your posts here?

Where did I say that? :-)

comprehension [kom-pri-hen-shuhn]: the act or capacity of understanding

20/20
Kilton
Both of you boys step 10 paces,turn and jack off
Maybe one of you can hit the others lips
Be glad when school starts

Arron burr Wrote:
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> 20/20
> Kilton
> Both of you boys step 10 paces,turn and jack off
> Maybe one of you can hit the others lips
> Be glad when school starts

Can we open carry while we do it?

Kilton Wrote:
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> 20/20 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You actually proofread your posts here?
>
> Where did I say that? :-)

Where did I say you did? Did you happen to notice that thing called a question mark? It looks like this "?" in case you need a refresher. It indicates a question is being asked, not a statement of fact. Answering a question with a question is pretty weak, even for you. You defensiveness on the matter makes one wonder if you protest too much. I have clearly rattled you.

> comprehension : the act or capacity of....

You cand define comprehension, but it doesn't mean you have mastered the skill. You appear to have little to no capacity for it.

Troll away, troll.