Straight from a worker in the Family Services department not too long ago (old friend from HS), I asked hypothetically "i might be homeless tomorrow i might get evicted what could the county do for me" (I have a kid too):

"If you become homeless today in FFC since they know you have a car, you would not be considered homeless. There is no room in the nightly shelters, but it is expected due to the economy. You might get lucky and get few nights there. After that... Problem is in Section 8/rental housing programs. Since there are so many recent immigrants especially from a certain country coming here and demanding services, we have less and less spots for people that were born here. And since it technically is harder for an immigrant to just go get an apartment, a new car, even a job right now with the economy, since they have no papers we kinda have to serve them first. They assume you and I can go live with an Aunt or get a sleeping bag from walmart and rough it parked in a quiet neighborhood if we go homeless- sure we can do food stamps, medicaid, and even childcare is cut to an even lower income level but you are on your own for housing. Waiting list is packed. Better off getting a van and sleeping in it. I heard of someone being turned away with her 4 kids when it was snowing out here not too long ago... "


I was like wow. Just something to think about.

How about Manassas? I thought Fairfax has population problems because the Arizona-like laws made the illegals get the fuck out of Prince William.

"Since there are so many recent immigrants especially from a certain country coming here and demanding services, we have less and less spots for people that were born here."

You can thank the democrats who in exchange for votes roll out the welfare welcome mat to illegals.

The Gerry and Sharon Show Wrote:
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> You can thank the democrats who in exchange for
> votes roll out the welfare welcome mat to
> illegals.


when will the repubs realize illegals can not vote?

you lost with registered voters

Before this turns into another stupid political thread...

http://guide2homelessness.blogspot.com/

Good luck out there.

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w4p3d Wrote:
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> when will the repubs realize illegals can not
> vote?
>
> you lost with registered voters


and illegals cannot be in this country either, there are ways around not showing ID or proving residency by signing an affidavit that you are telling the truth. by the time the election is over and your vote is counted no one cares, at least the winner doesnt care.

mo free stuff Wrote:
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> w4p3d Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > when will the repubs realize illegals can not
> > vote?
> >
> > you lost with registered voters
>
>
> and illegals cannot be in this country either,
> there are ways around not showing ID or proving
> residency by signing an affidavit that you are
> telling the truth. by the time the election is
> over and your vote is counted no one cares, at
> least the winner doesnt care.


That statement qualifies for the dumbest of the week. I voted and I had to show id. You have to show id in Va.

Plaster an "I love Obama" sticker on yer butt. Hie thee to your nearest Unitarian collectivist church. Demand that they walk their talk by taking you home with them.
Or at least letting you sleep on the sanctuary floor when it's cold. They'll take you in for one week. Then kick you out. And congratulate themselves forever for their compassion.

To quote Chris Rock, "You ain't SUPPOSED to become homeless anywhere you low expectations havin' mother fucka"

This is not good news. I am going through a divorce right now and will be homeless on the 8th of January. My wife is taking everything, including the house, and after alimony, child support, and the mortgage payment I am left with approximately $432 to live on each month. Commuting to my job from Springfield to DC takes more than half of that each month. Leaving me with $190 for food, rent, and utilities! I thought I could rely on the services of the county where I pay taxes, but apparently not! A bullet to the head is looking better and better.

ohshit! Wrote:
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> This is not good news. I am going through a
> divorce right now and will be homeless on the 8th
> of January. My wife is taking everything,
> including the house, and after alimony, child
> support, and the mortgage payment I am left with
> approximately $432 to live on each month.
> Commuting to my job from Springfield to DC takes
> more than half of that each month. Leaving me
> with $190 for food, rent, and utilities! I
> thought I could rely on the services of the county
> where I pay taxes, but apparently not! A bullet
> to the head is looking better and better.

Why would you still need to pay the mortgage if she is taking the house?

ohshit! Wrote:
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> This is not good news. I am going through a
> divorce right now and will be homeless on the 8th
> of January. My wife is taking everything,
> including the house, and after alimony, child
> support, and the mortgage payment I am left with
> approximately $432 to live on each month.
> Commuting to my job from Springfield to DC takes
> more than half of that each month. Leaving me
> with $190 for food, rent, and utilities! I
> thought I could rely on the services of the county
> where I pay taxes, but apparently not! A bullet
> to the head is looking better and better.

Is that you, Chris Cooley?

I'm sorry, I did not mean for this to be political!!! Purely Informational!!!

I was just letting people know that if one was about to become homeless, they better have a plan B,C, and D because the county most likely won't be able to help you!

Be self-sufficient and try not to depend on the government to save you, that is all I'm saying! This is true for ALL people!!!

cvhk Wrote:

> Why would you still need to pay the mortgage if
> she is taking the house?

Law in VA states that I can not displace a minor child. Unless soon to be ex-wife remarries. Judge ordered me to pay the mortgage until child turns 18. I still get the mortgage deduction on the my tax return.

ohshit! Wrote:
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> This is not good news. I am going through a
> divorce right now and will be homeless on the 8th
> of January. My wife is taking everything,
> including the house, and after alimony, child
> support, and the mortgage payment I am left with
> approximately $432 to live on each month.
> Commuting to my job from Springfield to DC takes
> more than half of that each month. Leaving me
> with $190 for food, rent, and utilities! I
> thought I could rely on the services of the county
> where I pay taxes, but apparently not! A bullet
> to the head is looking better and better.

Put the bullets away first of all.

Next, if you can swing it, get on craigslist and find a room for rent for $300 (yes it can be done you have to be fast!) in DC proper within a bus of your job. Or if you must stay in VA, go out to Melrose in Triangle where the 1 bedrooms are only like 650, then get used to getting up at 4am for the 5am bus to work so you dont need a car. Sell it. get all your shit and put it in public storage (if you rent a room), a 5x5 is $30 1st month online with the fees, and around 100/mo to make sure your stuff is safe or find a friends house to stash it. Or just have a garage sale and get down to 2 pieces of luggage and your PC and maybe a small TV that should be all you need you can get furniture anywhere anytime....

Get a weekend job for as many hours as you can, 2 if you can swing it. 7-11 is always hiring nightshift and they actually pay like 10-12 per hour.... Off the books if you can ;) Work 7 days a week. your 9-5 will cover the alimony, your 2nd job off the books should cover your cheap rent for your cheap room/apartment and you have a place your kids can come see you. you'll be too busy working to spend. save every extra penny IN CASH not in a bank you know they will try to garnish it. But DO pay the min. support on time and if you want to get extras for the kids (ie shoes, clothes, toys) buy them yourself, give no cash.

It might suck ass for awhile but at least you have a roof over your head and a cold beer waiting for you everynight and don't have to kiss anyone else's ass to live.

Hope this helps somehow.

PSA Wrote:
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> Straight from a worker in the Family Services
> department not too long ago (old friend from HS),
> I asked hypothetically "i might be homeless
> tomorrow i might get evicted what could the county
> do for me" (I have a kid too):
>
> "If you become homeless today in FFC since they
> know you have a car, you would not be considered
> homeless. There is no room in the nightly
> shelters, but it is expected due to the economy.
> You might get lucky and get few nights there.
> After that... Problem is in Section 8/rental
> housing programs. Since there are so many recent
> immigrants especially from a certain country
> coming here and demanding services, we have less
> and less spots for people that were born here. And
> since it technically is harder for an immigrant to
> just go get an apartment, a new car, even a job
> right now with the economy, since they have no
> papers we kinda have to serve them first. They
> assume you and I can go live with an Aunt or get a
> sleeping bag from walmart and rough it parked in a
> quiet neighborhood if we go homeless- sure we can
> do food stamps, medicaid, and even childcare is
> cut to an even lower income level but you are on
> your own for housing. Waiting list is packed.
> Better off getting a van and sleeping in it. I
> heard of someone being turned away with her 4 kids
> when it was snowing out here not too long ago...
> "
>
>
> I was like wow. Just something to think about.
Attachments:

Good grief. get over it. You lost

ohshit! Wrote:
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> This is not good news. I am going through a
> divorce right now and will be homeless on the 8th
> of January. My wife is taking everything,
> including the house, and after alimony, child
> support, and the mortgage payment I am left with
> approximately $432 to live on each month.
> Commuting to my job from Springfield to DC takes
> more than half of that each month. Leaving me
> with $190 for food, rent, and utilities! I
> thought I could rely on the services of the county
> where I pay taxes, but apparently not! A bullet
> to the head is looking better and better.


Get a room in a group house close to your work. Get a second job and take out an Anthony Robbins CD from the library. Good luck, you can do it!

Denying services to lifelong county residents who have paid thousands in taxes to help people who pay none and moved here last week without the consent of the US goevernment is good policy.

Priapus is correct. Get over it! Fairfax County's social safety net is for immigrants not Americans. Now go freeze to death in the woods, losers!

Priapus Wrote:
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> mo free stuff Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > w4p3d Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > when will the repubs realize illegals can not
> > > vote?
> > >
> > > you lost with registered voters
> >
> >
> > and illegals cannot be in this country either,
> > there are ways around not showing ID or proving
> > residency by signing an affidavit that you are
> > telling the truth. by the time the election is
> > over and your vote is counted no one cares, at
> > least the winner doesnt care.
>
>
> That statement qualifies for the dumbest of the
> week. I voted and I had to show id. You have to
> show id in Va.


Not if you sign affidavit stating you are who you say you are.

ohshit! Wrote:
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> This is not good news. I am going through a
> divorce right now and will be homeless on the 8th
> of January. My wife is taking everything,
> including the house, and after alimony, child
> support, and the mortgage payment I am left with
> approximately $432 to live on each month.
> Commuting to my job from Springfield to DC takes
> more than half of that each month. Leaving me
> with $190 for food, rent, and utilities! I
> thought I could rely on the services of the county
> where I pay taxes, but apparently not! A bullet
> to the head is looking better and better.

You need not do that, you are not alone in your dilemma. I bet 25% of the divorced men in this area are in the same boat. I dont know where women get off talking about equal rights when the courts fuck over the men every time.
Just go to a bar and mention you are getting divorced and within seconds any guy within ear shot will be able to tell you the same thing has happened to them.
If your post is for real dont even think about harming yourself. Sure its tough now but you can get past it.

What about places like The Lamb Center?

Rick Rick Wrote:
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> Denying services to lifelong county residents who
> have paid thousands in taxes to help people who
> pay none and moved here last week without the
> consent of the US goevernment is good policy.

It isn't that the resources are being intentionally diverted to immigrants. It is that the limited resources are being taken up by those who have learned how to game the system so that they are not available for the "deserving poor" who suddenly find they need them. Certain groups of immigrants just happen to be the latest group that have learned how to make the system work for them.

This isn't new. I used to run into it when I did some volunteer charity work in the 90s. The problem has been that the system does not distinguish between those who have worked hard, fallen on hard times and is looking for a little help until they can get back on their feet, and the person who has fucked around and would be content to continue doing so. As a result the second group actually has a leg up. They can afford to sit on the waiting list until something becomes available and they know enough to take jobs that pay them under the table, letting them keep top priority status.

So is there a suggestion that it is preferable to be homeless elsewhere? Or is there a suggestion that homelessness is choosen path by a person, many suffer mental disabilities. More specifically, is it the job of Fairfax County to provide for the poor, or is it the Commonwealth or is it the Federal government? Is homelessness fixable?

I know that I'm not smart enough to answer those questions, but I'm sure that I don't want the hordes of homesless from DC and MD to come to Fairfax county.

Oh fear not, we here in the Big Fairfax County have nice low income affordable housing with saunas,club houses, swimming pools, and pool tables I'm sure Sharon,Gerry, and Barry can find you something.

"Get a weekend job for as many hours as you can, 2 if you can swing it. 7-11 is always hiring nightshift and they actually pay like 10-12 per hour...."

It's been well over a decade since I've encountered a 7/11 employee who's native language is english. Most of the time the ability to speak english is limited to a few words.
come on, white people aren't welcome to work at 7/11 these days. Ever read the list of names on the ABC board.

btw, still plenty of woodlands in the great falls area. Nice tent for you and your motorcycle. Whats that rec center near Tysons on the way to great Falls for an early morning shower.
Really the 1%er's won't mind

Hey, if you still have to pay the mortgage, then you still have ownership of the house, as long as your name stays on it. So Put the house up for sale!. When it sells split the proceeds and let her go find her own place to live and you take your half and go find your place to live. Otherwise, go back to court and try to get your name taken off the mortgage-- since if they took the house away from you they would have to find a way to legally remove you from the mortgage responsibility would they not?. Yet they still expect you to pay the mortgage!?!!! Something is not quite right with this.....If you pursue it you can throw it right back in their lap. Who wanted the divorce, the wife or you--if she wanted it, then to be able to get it, she will have to allow your name to be removed from the mortgage, which means you are no longer responsible, if her name is also on it, it becomes her legal responsibility. Check out with a good pro bono lawyer as you are in great need--there are some around who will give you a consultation at least to give you some ideas about what you can do next. Apparently she had a better lawyer than you have or this would have been fixed to where you could split property and take your leave--AS SHE WISHED in the first place?

Aghast at the legal lunacy Wrote:
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> Hey, if you still have to pay the mortgage, then
> you still have ownership of the house, as long as
> your name stays on it. So Put the house up for
> sale!. When it sells split the proceeds and let
> her go find her own place to live and you take
> your half and go find your place to live.
> Otherwise, go back to court and try to get your
> name taken off the mortgage-- since if they took
> the house away from you they would have to find a
> way to legally remove you from the mortgage
> responsibility would they not?. Yet they still
> expect you to pay the mortgage!?!!! Something is
> not quite right with this.....If you pursue it you
> can throw it right back in their lap. Who wanted
> the divorce, the wife or you--if she wanted it,
> then to be able to get it, she will have to allow
> your name to be removed from the mortgage, which
> means you are no longer responsible, if her name
> is also on it, it becomes her legal
> responsibility. Check out with a good pro bono
> lawyer as you are in great need--there are some
> around who will give you a consultation at least
> to give you some ideas about what you can do next.
> Apparently she had a better lawyer than you have
> or this would have been fixed to where you could
> split property and take your leave--AS SHE WISHED
> in the first place?


Solid legal advice. Not a single flaw in this man's logic.

Tried it. Her lawyer argued that because of the minor child in school with learning disabilities (ADHD) moving before the child graduates HS (2017) would be disruptive and possibly damaging to the child's education. Her attorney also argued since my ex does not have the financial means to pay for the mortgage that estimated monthly payment should be included in the monthly support calculation. Judge agreed. Attorney advised me to set up support such that remittance for mortgage goes directly to the bank. He also advised me to keep my name on the mortgage and title to ensure I (or my heirs) have legal claim to the property should she remarry or when property is sold. (But she still gets 50% of the equity!)

Well, Looks like you are in for 5 years of hell. Sorry. Because you will no longer have a life due to the measly amount of money left over I suggest you get a night and weekend part time job. Thats what I had to do when I was in the same boat you currently are except mine lasted 15 years. Be happy your kid is graduating in 2017 and is not in elementary school.

I know a guy who upped and started paying child support to some girl he wasnt married to but thought her kid was his. He continued to pay for four plus years. When the kid started looking less and less like him he had a DNA done. The kid was not his. Yet the court ordered him to continue to pay stating it would be a disruption to the child to have funding cut off.

Before you sign anything make sure the kid is yours. Dont let the county social workers buffalo you into signing away your rights. When I divorced some man hating social aide lady in Fairfax said oh if you miss a payment we will come and lock you up. I never said I planned on not paying nor have I ever missed a payment but this is what a man can look forward to in court.

Before my hearing I listend to the men leaving the courtroom after being butt raped by the system. It would make you swear off getting married or having kids forever when you see what happens to them.

BTW there is no court monitoring to make sure the $800 bucks a month you give the ex actually goes to the kids. You have no say in how it is spent. If the ex wants to spend it on her and her new boyfriend while the kids wear Salvation Army clothes you will just have to learn to deal with it.

After reading the horror stories in this thread I have decided instead of getting married or being single and trying to bang every woman in a nightclub the above may be the best option for guys.

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> After reading the horror stories in this thread I
> have decided instead of getting married or being
> single and trying to bang every woman in a
> nightclub the above may be the best option for
> guys.


I am 100% with you! I just dont understand how an ex should receive financial support after a marriage. They are as functional as anyone else, get off your ass and apply for a job. Child support I can understand. Sounds like a Prenuptial agreement is the way to go.

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The hair and face looks like eesh a little.

If they're giving all the shelter/housing benefits to undocumented illegals, why don't you just go down there without documentation and get in with that crowd?

I worked for family services and that's just not true. You're considered homeless if you say you are and have no fixed address. And department of family services doesn't handle housing at all. That's a totally different department. DFS does food stamps, Medicaid, cash assistance, etc. No one there is trained, qualified, or allowed to fuck with housing.

Check with FACETS on Page Ave. in Fairfax. They help coordinate hypothermia shelters running from Thanksgiving through March 31. It is held at a different area church each week and they will have the schedule. You can enter at 5 pm and you are fed dinner. You are fed breakfast in the morning and have to leave around 9 am, I believe. Should buy you some time to figure things out.

Have you heard? The County is going to END homelessness:

http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/homeless/

Don't blame us for directing all taxpayer funds to support illegals. Blame the leftwing morons who keep electing us!

How in the hell does the county get away with harming people economicly?

I can believe these family judges that sit for the Juvenile and Domestic Court in Fairfax can order the poster to pay for a mortgage forva home he cannot even enter...

They ordered me to pay support for more than my income...

TL;DR: if you become homeless in Ffx Co, if you don't believe in God you're SHORT.

Sure, FACETS and other orgs mentioned above are non-profit- but they all are backed by the CHURCH which means if you don't believe (or even believe in someone else) they will try to CONVERT YOU and all you wanted was a warm bed and a hot meal for the night. YES You have to go to their services/programs (all include prayer or bible quotes in some manner!) and jump through their "christian" hoops to get service from them.

Lord forbid you are 18-19 and pregnant and scared and go to one of their orgs for help...they will try to FORCE you to go to one of their "homes" which is basically a religous JAIL and if you try to leave becausae you don't want to hear what they are saying in terms of religion, they kick you RIGHT BACK ON THE STREET. Also they PRESS for you to give your kid up for adoption and wont even entertain the thought of abortion- even if the person WANTS to get an abortion!

I thought we had freedom of religion here???

JJ182883 Wrote:
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> I worked for family services and that's just not
> true. You're considered homeless if you say you
> are and have no fixed address. And department of
> family services doesn't handle housing at all.
> That's a totally different department. DFS does
> food stamps, Medicaid, cash assistance, etc. No
> one there is trained, qualified, or allowed to
> fuck with housing.

True they can't go in the housing computer and find you a place to live like Housing can, but they DO talk to their fellow co-workers in that department relating to policies/procedures. It's all related.

Fixed address- if you say you're living with your insane/stealing/crazy/insert problem here family or roommates and got kicked out, they basically tell you to go back and deal with it.

Oh and icing on this cake- I love how the rents on a supposedly low-income place are only like $100 off real rents. You can't make more than 40k to live there, but you still have to pay $1400/month rent. For a 1 bedroom. Um- 1400 is over 1/2 my takehome pay FFx Co....if i can rent from the complex next door for the same rent on special you are really not doing me any favors....where does all the money go?

just great Wrote:
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> Oh and icing on this cake- I love how the rents on
> a supposedly low-income place are only like $100
> off real rents. You can't make more than 40k to
> live there, but you still have to pay $1400/month
> rent. For a 1 bedroom. Um- 1400 is over 1/2 my
> takehome pay FFx Co....if i can rent from the
> complex next door for the same rent on special you
> are really not doing me any favors....where does
> all the money go?

The $1400 is the advertised price. Once your are certified low income by the county, Vouchers are the answer. Depending on income and how many people in your family will be living in the unit, determines the $ amount of the voucher you receive. The voucher goes to the landlord and is a direct reduction in your rent. The landlord submits the voucher to the county for payment which is guaranteed, even if the tenant only lived in the unit for 1 day!

Vouchers4U Wrote:
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> just great Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> ----->
> > Oh and icing on this cake- I love how the rents
> on
> > a supposedly low-income place are only like
> $100
> > off real rents. You can't make more than 40k to
> > live there, but you still have to pay
> $1400/month
> > rent. For a 1 bedroom. Um- 1400 is over 1/2 my
> > takehome pay FFx Co....if i can rent from the
> > complex next door for the same rent on special
> you
> > are really not doing me any favors....where
> does
> > all the money go?
>
> The $1400 is the advertised price. Once your are
> certified low income by the county, Vouchers are
> the answer. Depending on income and how many
> people in your family will be living in the unit,
> determines the $ amount of the voucher you
> receive. The voucher goes to the landlord and is
> a direct reduction in your rent. The landlord
> submits the voucher to the county for payment
> which is guaranteed, even if the tenant only lived
> in the unit for 1 day!

I am on the waiting list for the vouchers, have been for YEARS now.

This is what I'm talking about- places like Lee Overlook- they list $50k as their max- the rent is STILL 1300 for a 2 bedroom.

You can get a 2 bedroom for $1440 and still be in centreville at Lakeside Centreville for $140 more. With NO income restriction. BUT you HAVE to make 3x rent monthly (or 51,840/ year) to live there.

So how is this helping us? Oh wait, we are supposed to wait in line behind all the new immigrants even though we have lived in Ffxco ALL OUR LIVES before we can get a voucher. THEN we can have TRUE income-based housing. My bad!!!!

@just great - why are you coming down on the churches? At least they are doing something - I've never seen Atheist Homeless Center so you kinda gotta stfu on that tip cause it's not like churches are PREVENTING atheists from starting their own shelters up, y'know? Just saying................

p.s. can you prove that new immigrants get "in line" first, or are you just guessing that? Just asking cause if you have proof, I'd DEFINITELY love it if you'd provide it for us, please

thanx

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> @just great - why are you coming down on the
> churches? At least they are doing something -
> I've never seen Atheist Homeless Center so you
> kinda gotta stfu on that tip cause it's not like
> churches are PREVENTING atheists from starting
> their own shelters up, y'know? Just
> saying................
>
> p.s. can you prove that new immigrants get "in
> line" first, or are you just guessing that? Just
> asking cause if you have proof, I'd DEFINITELY
> love it if you'd provide it for us, please
>
> thanx

I have nothing against the churches per-se, you are right in that they provide a needed service to those down on their luck. What I AM mad about is the fact you HAVE TO be religious in order to obtain the full benefits of their services.

How do I know about the "homes"? I was that scared 18 year old.

Immigrants first- do I really need to provide factual proof? I can't get that proof unless I work for the county and am in their computer system!

Just walk into the pennino building 2nd floor lobby and observe who comes in for service.

Just ask my ( now ex-)neighbor who just moved to this country last year and within 3 months of her applying she got moved with her 4 kids to a NICE subsidized apartment. While I still wait on the "list" coming up on 5 years now and am dealing with an abusive person just to have a roof over my head. I have a child too, it makes no difference, I still WAIT.

Just ask my other neighbor, she is on section 8 with her 2 kids, yet has 3 male roommates she calls family "off the books" that live in the basement paying her when her rent is already paid by the county. She DOES get food stamps (I was right behind her in line @ shoppers!) and medicaid yet is riding around in a 2012 SUV and comes in every week with nordstrom/macys bags and her hair perfectly done. They even got a puppy. Her "roommates" all have MD tags on their car and take up visitor parking.

I'm just MAD at the UNFAIRNESS of it all. Go ahead and flame me I don't care. I give up. YES I AM doing something to make more money in the near future (in school), but for now I rot and take abuse while others new here get everything handed to them on a silver platter.

I'll just STFU now. Me bitching about it won't change a damn thing.

Report the MD tags for county vehicle tax evasion.

Contact Section8 and report the roommates.

I happy to live in US. I come here with brother and he wife. We apply to county for housing and get to live in nice place with pool for $300 per month. Nice lady say my sister can live with us and rent go down to $200. I work every day and get pay in cash from nice guy named Joe! Buy car from Carmax and pay cash (2004 Camry.) Send cash to rest of family in Mexico. Do not pay for food, county lady give me and brother a card that buys food at Aldo every month. So far food cost $137.42 and use card to buy even beer. County lady tell me that doctor will see me for free if I get sick. Back in Mexico, I can't go to doctor, it expansave. Differnt county lady give me computer for free so I can find job. We love US since everyone let us live free and give us food free and computer free. My friends from Mexico came to US also, see county lady get everything we get, but have kids and get more money and bigger place to live. They only pay $150 month rent. They love US too!

no again Wrote:
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> Priapus Wrote:
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> -----
> > mo free stuff Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > w4p3d Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > when will the repubs realize illegals can
> not
> > > > vote?
> > > >
> > > > you lost with registered voters
> > >
> > >
> > > and illegals cannot be in this country
> either,
> > > there are ways around not showing ID or
> proving
> > > residency by signing an affidavit that you
> are
> > > telling the truth. by the time the election
> is
> > > over and your vote is counted no one cares,
> at
> > > least the winner doesnt care.
> >
> >
> > That statement qualifies for the dumbest of the
> > week. I voted and I had to show id. You have to
> > show id in Va.
>
>
> Not if you sign affidavit stating you are who you
> say you are.

Yeah but you still need to show ID by the friday after election day if you want your vote counted.

http://www.sbe.virginia.gov/votinginperson.html

"Provisional Ballot Process for Voters Who Arrive Without Identification
All active registered voters in Virginia will be mailed a new voter identification card prior to the November 2012 General Election. Voters without any other ID should bring this form of ID with them to the polls as this will satisfy the voter ID requirements for Virginia and federal law.
A voter who arrives at the polling place without an acceptable form of identification will be given the opportunity to vote a provisional ballot. After completing the provisional ballot, the individual voting will be given written instructions from the election officials on how to submit a copy of his/her identification so that his/her vote can be counted.

A voter will have until noon on the Friday following the election to deliver a copy of the identification to the local electoral board. Voters may submit a copy of their ID via fax, email, in-person submission, or through USPS or commercial delivery service. Please note that the copy of the ID must be delivered to the electoral board by noon on Friday, or the provisional ballot cannot be counted. A Friday postmark will not be sufficient if the copy of the ID is not delivered to the electoral board by noon on Friday.

The written notice given to the voter will provide the necessary information, including email, fax, and address of where the ID should be delivered."

USAWAY Wrote:
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> I happy to live in US. I come here with brother
> and he wife. We apply to county for housing and
> get to live in nice place with pool for $300 per
> month. Nice lady say my sister can live with us
> and rent go down to $200. I work every day and get
> pay in cash from nice guy named Joe! Buy car from
> Carmax and pay cash (2004 Camry.) Send cash to
> rest of family in Mexico. Do not pay for food,
> county lady give me and brother a card that buys
> food at Aldo every month. So far food cost $137.42
> and use card to buy even beer. County lady tell
> me that doctor will see me for free if I get sick.
> Back in Mexico, I can't go to doctor, it
> expansave. Differnt county lady give me computer
> for free so I can find job. We love US since
> everyone let us live free and give us food free
> and computer free. My friends from Mexico came to
> US also, see county lady get everything we get,
> but have kids and get more money and bigger place
> to live. They only pay $150 month rent. They
> love US too!

You are a horrible racist. And by that I don't mean that you are really bad at being a racist. You are floating somewhere between "me love you long time" and someone who just doesn't know how to spell.

USAWAY Wrote:
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> I happy to live in US. I come here with brother
> and he wife. We apply to county for housing and
> get to live in nice place with pool for $300 per
> month. Nice lady say my sister can live with us
> and rent go down to $200. I work every day and get
> pay in cash from nice guy named Joe! Buy car from
> Carmax and pay cash (2004 Camry.) Send cash to
> rest of family in Mexico. Do not pay for food,
> county lady give me and brother a card that buys
> food at Aldo every month. So far food cost $137.42
> and use card to buy even beer. County lady tell
> me that doctor will see me for free if I get sick.
> Back in Mexico, I can't go to doctor, it
> expansave. Differnt county lady give me computer
> for free so I can find job. We love US since
> everyone let us live free and give us food free
> and computer free. My friends from Mexico came to
> US also, see county lady get everything we get,
> but have kids and get more money and bigger place
> to live. They only pay $150 month rent. They
> love US too!


Mi casa su casa by which I mean I am more than happy to give out lots of free stuff to people like you in exchange for votes. Just dont think I want you in my neighborhood ese.

MrMephisto Wrote:
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> Before this turns into another stupid political
> thread...
>
> http://guide2homelessness.blogspot.com/
>
> Good luck out there.

Fascinating read. Thanks for posting it.

My final statement on the matter- then I will go back to tent shopping...

After reading and researching on my own, fact of the matter is as long as we continue to provide for the legally-born children of illegal immigrants, this problem will NEVER go away.

Sure they can turn down momma Maria for housing/foodstamps/medical/what have you- but they CAN'T turn down Maria's 5 kids because they were all BORN HERE. So by default, the parents benefit from the children being born here DIRECTLY. So OF COURSE all the illegal immigrants come to the USA to make sure their kids are born here- then they immediately get their kids "on the dole" and can live quite nice in a section 8/rental program house only having to pay $50 a month in rent- by virtue of their KIDS being here.

The only way to stop it is to close this loophole- but then we would be denying anyone from any other land (to include European/African/Asian countries) so this is only a pipe dream. I know the us was built on "come one come all" but I think it is time to close the borders.

Trust, I have researched moving to another country and their rules are so strict, I Would never make it in the country much less be granted permission to live there the rest of my life. Not like I can just move to Mexico or Africa and just demand to be put on their dole, even if I had a child there they wouldn't allow it. Why doesn't the US do the same?

I just hope Fairfax County finds a way to make it more FAIR for EVERYONE to get a shot at housing- NOT JUST for Maria and her 5 kids. What about Mandy who was born here and lost her job and she tries to go get housing for her and her 1 kid and is declined because Maria demanded it the moment she set foot in this counrty while Mandy tried to do the right thing and work to provide for her kid, but she got laid off 3 years later...and now she needs help and can't get it from the county.

Why? Because Maria and all her friends are hogging all the low rent places 10 to a 2 bedroom and making money off charging rent. They will never run out of tenants with the sheer number of illegals here so of COURSE they will fight to keep their section 8 alive and never get off of it (they find loopholes) and continue to rent section 8/low income, have 6 "relatives" charging them $250 apiece to sleep on her floor and she counts the money and lives comfy in her free apartment with free food and medical and a decent off the books income while Mandy is put on a waitlist and has to go sleep in her car today with her kid outside in the wind and cold. And Mandy is "overqualified" to work anything retail/construction/other low wage jobs and since she has been out of work more than 6 months, no other employers will touch her so she has to live off that $323/month TANF and get NO help otherwise.

Ok let me step off my soapbox. I can't think of any easy solutions, at least I tried.

Thank you for reading.

As a church member that participates in FACETS programs, we do hot meals, hypothermia shelter, and fish pantry, we don't require that you share our beliefs in any way shape or form. We might talk to you about them and attempt to help you improve your circumstances but that is it.

To the person getting divorce I say don't worry, someone with one of the 1000 plus assualt rifles Oblama & Derelick holder lost track of and refuse to talk about , may shoot you. Remember fast 'n furious or am I the only one. Maybe they released those assault rifles to cull the homeless. You're correct I'm just another right wing wacko. Oh and forget food stamps, a majority of the state employees are now of a certain origin so you know who is first in line. Best bet is to make friends with 14 people and stay with each once every 2wks. No one will get sick of you but then due to collapse of the left wing economy we may all end up homeless

Thankyou Sharon B I haven't laughed that hard in a long time. If I become homeless I will speak broken english and roll my r's oh and of course bay kosh!

ohshit! Wrote:
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> This is not good news. I am going through a
> divorce right now and will be homeless on the 8th
> of January. My wife is taking everything,
> including the house, and after alimony, child
> support, and the mortgage payment I am left with
> approximately $432 to live on each month.
> Commuting to my job from Springfield to DC takes
> more than half of that each month. Leaving me
> with $190 for food, rent, and utilities! I
> thought I could rely on the services of the county
> where I pay taxes, but apparently not! A bullet
> to the head is looking better and better.


What happened dude? Any updates?