More shannigans from the worst president ever. Anyone who has been there knows that it took them more effort to erect the barricades than to not show up for work. In fact, in all the times I've been there, I've never, ever seen any NPS staff in those parking lots. But now, with the shut down the all show up. Go figure.





The National Park Service erected barricades to shut down parking lots surrounding Mount Vernon despite the fact that the tourist destination is privately owned, another example of how the feds are deliberately worsening the government shut down.

Mount Vernon is the former plantation of George Washington and is owned by the Mount Vernon Ladies’ Association, which doesn’t receive any government funding. The attraction’s official website reads, “NO SHUTDOWN HERE – The Federal government may be shut down, but Washington’s home remains open. Mount Vernon has remained a private non-profit for more than 150 years.”

However, a dispute began when the National Park Service began putting up barricades to block off the facility’s car park, blockading the entrance as well as a spot where tour buses turn around.

The parking lots are co-owned by Mount Vernon and the NPS, but require no immediate maintenance at all, meaning the decision to close them down was completely unnecessary.

The feds even blocked off a small area consisting of just three parking spaces.

After blogger Stephen Gutowski exposed the situation, Newt Gingrich got in on the act, tweeting, “The tour bus turnaround at Mount Vernon has been closed by federal police. This is deliberate effort by Obama to hurt the public. Disgusting.”

Numerous other sites around DC have been unnecessarily closed by the NPS and other federal agencies in what critics are labeling a cynical political stunt which only serves to punish the American people.

In some cases, efforts to shut down these sites actually require more manpower and resources than if they had been left open, highlighting the fact that this is an act of partisan theater by the Obama administration to pin the blame for the government shutdown on Republicans and opponents of Obamacare.

- Numerous hiking and biking trails throughout the greater DC region, despite requiring zero immediate maintenance or patrols, have been closed down. Irate citizens are merely flouting the law and using them anyway.

- The NPS has stationed officers along the Chesapeake & Ohio Canal that runs 184 miles from Washington, D.C. to Cumberland, Maryland to make sure nobody uses the bike paths. It would have required less manpower to keep this trail open. The handles on all the well pumps have also been removed.

- The feds also shut down a tiny park in which children play on fake turtles, prompting angry mothers to remove the barriers, only to see them put back up. “The park is extremely small and sort of seems pointless to block off,” reports the Daily Caller.

- Lincoln Park in DC, which is known to be used by several Democratic Senators, was not shut down, but numerous national parks across Montana were closed.

- The most widely reported case occurred at the World War II memorial in DC, where the NPS tried to prevent veterans from seeing the monument by erecting barriers and even threatening vets with arrest. The veterans stormed through the barricades anyway. “People had to spend hours setting up barricades where there are never barricades to prevent people from seeing the World War II monument because they’re trying to play a charade,” Senator Rand Paul told Fox News.

Senior Republicans on the House Natural Resources Committee are considering opening up an investigation into where the Obama administration directly ordered the “outrageous” closure of the memorial as part of a ploy to “make the current lapse in appropriations as conspicuous and painful to the public as possible,” according to the letter from chairman Doc Hastings, R-Wash., and subcommittee chairman Rob Bishop, R-Utah.
Attachments:

Boo fuckin' whoo, you wingnut teabagging asswipe.

Let the House vote on a clean CR!

Allow a vote on a clean CR! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Boo fuckin' whoo, you wingnut teabagging asswipe.
>
> Let the House vote on a clean CR!


dumbass

Ralph Pootawn Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Allow a vote on a clean CR! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Boo fuckin' whoo, you wingnut teabagging
> asswipe.
> >
> > Let the House vote on a clean CR!
>
>
> dumbass

That's stupid.

Mt Vernon may be private, but it is serviced by the GW Parkway, which is park service.

Obama using thugs...LOFL.

Why resort to that type of crap?

I expect more from grown people.

How fricking dumb Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Mt Vernon may be private, but it is serviced by
> the GW Parkway, which is park service.
>
> Obama using thugs...LOFL.
>
> Why resort to that type of crap?
>
> I expect more from grown people.


Then why don't they close the whole damn Parkway?! lol

It was a BS move that they had to go to extra effort and expense to do just for publicity and political purposes. As they have elsewhere and as they always do around here at various facilities when these dumb pissing contests happen. This is the first time that I can recall them going to such lengths to close open-air and unstaffed places though. That points to a directed effort on the part of political appointees who head the agencies to play games. It doesn't happen otherwise.

You can rightly call out the stupidity and rhetoric on both sides, plenty of it on both, but that's the fact in this case.

Let the House vote on a clean CR!



With all the Obamacare exemptions for Congressmen and their staffs? Not a chance.

Bovine Spongiform Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> With all the Obamacare exemptions for Congressmen
> and their staffs?

That's a myth:


Attachments:

The whole thing is stupid and unnecessary on both sides.

1) who gives a shit about enforcing the blocking of the parking lot.. they need to go find something better to do than prevent people from parking on a co-owned area.


2) It's retarded to even insinuate that the President directly ordered this and is deliberately hurting the public in this specific incident. Yes, I am so sure the President in all the things he has to do with the entire country was like.. Yo get some Park Police to shut off the co-owned with a private entity parking lot at Mount Vernon. Shut the fuck up.

Allow a vote on a clean CR! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Bovine Spongiform Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > With all the Obamacare exemptions for
> Congressmen
> > and their staffs?
>
> That's a myth:

OK. I want to be treated just like Congress. I want the feds to pony up the contributions for premiums on the exchanges.

lolwtf4 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> The whole thing is stupid and unnecessary on both
> sides.
>
> 1) who gives a shit about enforcing the blocking
> of the parking lot.. they need to go find
> something better to do than prevent people from
> parking on a co-owned area.
>
>
> 2) It's retarded to even insinuate that the
> President directly ordered this and is
> deliberately hurting the public in this specific
> incident. Yes, I am so sure the President in all
> the things he has to do with the entire country
> was like.. Yo get some Park Police to shut off the
> co-owned with a private entity parking lot at
> Mount Vernon. Shut the fuck up.


Orders are coming down from political appointees in offices to make the shutdown as visible and painful as possible. The order started somewhere in the White House. Maybe not the President, but someone pretty high up.

Bill Clinton didn't even make these draconian maneuvers in his battles with the GOP in the 90s. Ohio Drive was open in the 90s. The monuments and memorials were open in the 90s.

same treatment Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> OK. I want to be treated just like Congress. I
> want the feds to pony up the contributions for
> premiums on the exchanges.

No. You don't work for the gov't., Congressmen and their staffs do, so they EARN the benefits (including health insurance) that they receive.

Allow a vote on a clean CR! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> same treatment Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > OK. I want to be treated just like Congress.
> I
> > want the feds to pony up the contributions for
> > premiums on the exchanges.
>
> No. You don't work for the gov't., Congressmen
> and their staffs do, so they EARN the benefits
> (including health insurance) that they receive.

And they should abide by the law that has forced many people into the exchanges. It is only EARNED because of the way they wrote the law. They created a two class system. One for them and one for everyone else. This is the Democrat idea of fairness?

same treatment Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> And they should abide by the law that has forced
> many people into the exchanges.

They do "abide by the law". They are covered by health insurance as the ACA requires.

same treatment Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Allow a vote on a clean CR! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > same treatment Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > OK. I want to be treated just like Congress.
>
> > I
> > > want the feds to pony up the contributions
> for
> > > premiums on the exchanges.
> >
> > No. You don't work for the gov't., Congressmen
> > and their staffs do, so they EARN the benefits
> > (including health insurance) that they receive.
>
> And they should abide by the law that has forced
> many people into the exchanges. It is only EARNED
> because of the way they wrote the law. They
> created a two class system. One for them and one
> for everyone else. This is the Democrat idea of
> fairness?

And they seem to forget who's paying for it.

Allow a vote on a clean CR! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> same treatment Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > And they should abide by the law that has
> forced
> > many people into the exchanges.
>
> They do "abide by the law". They are covered by
> health insurance as the ACA requires.

Which health insurance? The FEHB? No, they aren't. The law removed them from that program.

How fricking dumb Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I expect more from grown people.

There ARE no grown people on the Republican side. From Bingo Boehner on down, they are all whiny little lying assholes who want minority rule and are going to blow everything up if they can't get it. Piss on the entire lot of their worthless ignorant traitorous asses.

following orders Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Orders are coming down from political appointees
> in offices to make the shutdown as visible and
> painful as possible. The order started somewhere
> in the White House. Maybe not the President, but
> someone pretty high up.

In other words, you are fucking just imagining the whole thing. Jackass.

> Bill Clinton didn't even make these draconian
> maneuvers in his battles with the GOP in the 90s.
> Ohio Drive was open in the 90s. The monuments and
> memorials were open in the 90s.

No, you filthy lying asswipe. Monuments, parks, and museums were closed in 1995-96 as well. That's what happens during a fucking shutdown. This is exactly what you right-wing asstards have been clamorng for, and now you don't like what you've done to yourselves and everybody else? What a bunch of utter shit-for-brains losers.

LOL! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> following orders Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Orders are coming down from political
> appointees
> > in offices to make the shutdown as visible and
> > painful as possible. The order started
> somewhere
> > in the White House. Maybe not the President,
> but
> > someone pretty high up.
>
> In other words, you are fucking just imagining the
> whole thing. Jackass.

Nope. I know it is difficult for you to imagine deal leader manufacturing a crisis, but that is exactly what he is doing.

> > Bill Clinton didn't even make these draconian
> > maneuvers in his battles with the GOP in the
> 90s.
> > Ohio Drive was open in the 90s. The monuments
> and
> > memorials were open in the 90s.
>
> No, you filthy lying asswipe. Monuments, parks,
> and museums were closed in 1995-96 as well.
> That's what happens during a fucking shutdown.
> This is exactly what you right-wing asstards have
> been clamorng for, and now you don't like what
> you've done to yourselves and everybody else?
> What a bunch of utter shit-for-brains losers.

Wrong again, shit for brains. Tourist services were closed as in there were no tour guides or docents at the monuments, but they were still accessible.



You can even see the tourists in the picture.

Allow a vote on a clean CR! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Bovine Spongiform Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > With all the Obamacare exemptions for
> Congressmen
> > and their staffs?
>
> That's a myth:

No its not. They get special funding for their plans and are not full participants with the same rates and plans available to the public. They may technically be a part of it, but their participation is getting very special treatment.

Again though the NPS stuff is nothing more than trying to make this visual and hurt as much as it possibly can.

same treatment Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> And they should abide by the law that has forced
> many people into the exchanges. It is only EARNED
> because of the way they wrote the law. They
> created a two class system. One for them and one
> for everyone else. This is the Democrat idea of
> fairness?

Attention STUPID FUCKWADS: FEHB is already an exchange system, and Congress and their staff people make their choices on that exchange just as every other federal employee does. The fact that STUPID FUCKWADS are just plain too dumb ever to have qualified for federal employment doesn't change the fact.

money tree Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> And they seem to forget who's paying for it.

THEY are fucking paying for it, you asstard. Are you so seriously fucked up as to not realize that beyond their own employee share of health insurance premiums, federal employees pay all the same fucking federal taxes that you do? And in fact because you are such a total fucking dumbshit, it is very likely that most of them pay FAR MORE in federal taxes than you do, you no-account whiny little goat turd.

That piece of propaganda that the OP deliberately did not cite is brought to you by Alex Jones infowars.com - "Because There is a War on for Your Mind". Seriously delusional stuff there.

"Senior Republicans on the House Natural Resources Committee are considering opening up an investigation into where the Obama administration directly ordered the “outrageous” closure of the memorial as part of a ploy to “make the current lapse in appropriations as conspicuous and painful to the public as possible,” according to the letter from chairman Doc Hastings, R-Wash., and subcommittee chairman Rob Bishop, R-Utah."

Great. Another trumped up conspiracy by the usual attack dogs. Truly pathetic.

Liberal Logic 28 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> They are not full participants with the same
> rates and plans available to the public.

Why would they be? They're governement employees, otherwise eligible for federal benefits. Private-sector employees are not forced off of their employer-sponsored insurance plans. It's bad enough that Congress has been singled-out, they at least deserve not to be harmed by being forced to pay out of pocket for coverage obtained on exchanges.

LOL! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> money tree Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > And they seem to forget who's paying for it.
>
> THEY are fucking paying for it, you asstard. Are
> you so seriously fucked up as to not realize that
> beyond their own employee share of health
> insurance premiums, federal employees pay all the
> same fucking federal taxes that you do? And in
> fact because you are such a total fucking
> dumbshit, it is very likely that most of them pay
> FAR MORE in federal taxes than you do, you
> no-account whiny little goat turd.

+1

Here, here!

same treatment Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Which health insurance? The FEHB? No, they
> aren't. The law removed them from that program.

No it didn't, you fucking jerkwad. You are at best another worthless trained-seal+ dumbfuck blindly swallowing the dead fish of Paul Gigot's asshat and quite willful failure to understand the so-called Grassley amendment. Here's an "Ork! Ork!" for you, dumbass. Grassley himself never intended that his amendment be adopted but it was adopted in his face anyway. The issues raised by that are with regard to government cost-sharing for any employees who do end up purchasing insurance on an ACA exchange rather than on an FEHB exchange. The ACA exchanges are of course intended only for those who do not have access to effective and affordable employer-sponsored health care plans. The Grassley amendment itself states that affected and eligible federal employees would use their current FEHB employer-share contributions to purchase insurance on ACA exchanges. But that language while plain, is not specific enough. Either OPM or Congress itself will make it specific enough. In the meantime, dishonest dickheads will try to make some phony political issue out of it, just as they do with every other triviality they can think of. These folks are all worthless scum.

LOL! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> same treatment Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Which health insurance? The FEHB? No, they
> > aren't. The law removed them from that
> program.
>
> No it didn't, you fucking jerkwad. You are at
> best another worthless trained-seal+ dumbfuck
> blindly swallowing the dead fish of Paul Gigot's
> asshat and quite willful failure to understand the
> so-called Grassley amendment. Here's an "Ork!
> Ork!" for you, dumbass. Grassley himself never
> intended that his amendment be adopted but it was
> adopted in his face anyway. The issues raised by
> that are with regard to government cost-sharing
> for any employees who do end up purchasing
> insurance on an ACA exchange rather than on an
> FEHB exchange. The ACA exchanges are of course
> intended only for those who do not have access to
> effective and affordable employer-sponsored health
> care plans. The Grassley amendment itself states
> that affected and eligible federal employees would
> use their current FEHB employer-share
> contributions to purchase insurance on ACA
> exchanges. But that language while plain, is not
> specific enough. Either OPM or Congress itself
> will make it specific enough. In the meantime,
> dishonest dickheads will try to make some phony
> political issue out of it, just as they do with
> every other triviality they can think of. These
> folks are all worthless scum.


You want to come at with me with the name calling because you are an unintelligent, uninformed, lying know nothing?

How about this straight from the horse's mouth?

Dear Members, Resident Commissioner, Delegates, and congressional staff:

Today, October 2, 2013, the Office of Personnel Management (OPM) published its final rule on section 1312(d)(3)(D) of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (ACA) which, effective January 1, 2014, limits the healthcare plans the Federal Government may make available to Members of Congress and certain congressional staff.

While we are completing our review of the final rule and anticipate issuing guidance as soon as possible, we wanted to make sure offices were made aware of the following information:

• Members and congressional staff currently enrolled in a health plan under the Federal Employee Health Benefit Program (FEHBP) will continue to be covered through December 31, 2013, unless they voluntarily choose to cancel their current enrollment.

• Members and certain staff will need to enroll in alternate health plans by January 1, 2014, to avoid a break in coverage.

• Members and those staff required to enroll in an alternate plan will have the option of enrolling in the District of Columbia’s DC Health Link Small Business Market (DC SHOP). The open enrollment period for Members and staff enrolling in a plan under the DC SHOP will be November 11, 2013, through December 9, 2013.

As always, Members with questions and/or concerns are encouraged to contact the CAO’s Members’ Services at (202) 225-3644. Staff with questions and/or concerns are encouraged to contact the CAO’s Office of Payroll and Benefits at (202) 225-1435.

Sincerely,

Dan Strodel
Chief Administrative Officer

------------------------------------------

So, speaking of worthless, I believe it explains your entire post. The CAO of the House of Representatives said that coverage under the FEHB ENDS Dec 31.

Where's you get your talking points? The backside of Harry Reid's toilet paper. Your either stupid or a liar. Pick one.

from the horse's mouth Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------

>
> Where's you get your talking points? The backside
> of Harry Reid's toilet paper. Your either stupid
> or a liar. Pick one.


It's obviously both. And yes, it's "you're", but LOL! is the poster boy of fuckwadism.

LOL! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> money tree Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > And they seem to forget who's paying for it.
>
> THEY are fucking paying for it, you asstard. Are
> you so seriously fucked up as to not realize that
> beyond their own employee share of health
> insurance premiums, federal employees pay all the
> same fucking federal taxes that you do? And in
> fact because you are such a total fucking
> dumbshit, it is very likely that most of them pay
> FAR MORE in federal taxes than you do, you
> no-account whiny little goat turd.


Are you brain dead or just such a disingenuous partisan dick sucker that you don't realize that taxpayers still are paying whether they also pay some small amount of their income through their own taxes or not? Who do you think pays their salary to begin with not to mention the pure contribution toward the benefits beyond that. The comparison to a private plan doesn't work in the case of public employees buttmunch.

Allow a vote on a clean CR! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Liberal Logic 28 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > They are not full participants with the same
> > rates and plans available to the public.
>
> Why would they be? They're governement employees,
> otherwise eligible for federal benefits.
> Private-sector employees are not forced off of
> their employer-sponsored insurance plans. It's
> bad enough that Congress has been singled-out,
> they at least deserve not to be harmed by being
> forced to pay out of pocket for coverage obtained
> on exchanges.

No matter how much you say it it doesnt change the fact their benefits and plans are different from even other Federal Employees.

They gave themselves special treatment above and beyond what a federal employee gets. I know they are under extreme hardship now that their shoe shiner was sent home and they have to push their own elevator button without the attendants.

Theyre congress not federal employees. They should have to abide by the exact same rules everyone else does. Being elected used to be a honor not an entitlement

following orders Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Nope. I know it is difficult for you to imagine
> deal leader manufacturing a crisis, but that is
> exactly what he is doing.

Go fuck yourself, you self-made moron. The whole cloth of this mess has been manufactured by the same idiotic bunch of entrenched ideological hard-right America-hating dumbfuck extremists as has been obstructing progress and the nation's business and well-being since 2007, They lost on Obamacare in Congress, in the courts, and at the ballot box, and the putrid little sissies just can't stand it. This is exactly the sort of damage-doing that might be exepcted from a bunch of hostage-taking terrorists selfishly determined to have their way at all costs. They are the one and only cause of all this.

> Wrong again, shit for brains. Tourist services
> were closed as in there were no tour guides or
> docents at the monuments, but they were still
> accessible.

Accessible? What a fucking farce. Could you get into thw Washington Monument? The Zoo? The Smithsonian? NO!!!! You couldn't get into hundreds of such facilities all around the country. Because monuments, museums, and parks were fucking closed, you lying sack of shit. Could you still walk across The Mall in 1995-96? Obviously.

LOL! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
>
> Accessible? What a fucking farce. Could you get
> into thw Washington Monument? The Zoo? The
> Smithsonian? NO!!!! You couldn't get into
> hundreds of such facilities all around the
> country. Because monuments, museums, and parks
> were fucking closed, you lying sack of shit.
> Could you still walk across The Mall in 1995-96?
> Obviously.

And the WWII Memorial would be located _________.

Fucktard

LOL! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> following orders Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Nope. I know it is difficult for you to
> imagine
> > deal leader manufacturing a crisis, but that is
> > exactly what he is doing.
>
> Go fuck yourself, you self-made moron. The whole
> cloth of this mess has been manufactured by the
> same idiotic bunch of entrenched ideological
> hard-right America-hating dumbfuck extremists as
> has been obstructing progress and the nation's
> business and well-being since 2007, They lost on
> Obamacare in Congress, in the courts, and at the
> ballot box, and the putrid little sissies just
> can't stand it. This is exactly the sort of
> damage-doing that might be exepcted from a bunch
> of hostage-taking terrorists selfishly determined
> to have their way at all costs. They are the one
> and only cause of all this.
>
> > Wrong again, shit for brains. Tourist services
> > were closed as in there were no tour guides or
> > docents at the monuments, but they were still
> > accessible.
>
> Accessible? What a fucking farce. Could you get
> into thw Washington Monument? The Zoo? The
> Smithsonian? NO!!!! You couldn't get into
> hundreds of such facilities all around the
> country. Because monuments, museums, and parks
> were fucking closed, you lying sack of shit.
> Could you still walk across The Mall in 1995-96?
> Obviously.


And you could walk up the steps of the Lincoln Memorial. Now there are barricades because of the manufactured crisis.

Oh, and answer from the horse's mouth. He handed you a big bunch of fail and you folded like a cheap suit. It is clear the FEHB won't be available to Congress come Jan. 1 making you a big fucking liar!

How fricking dumb Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Mt Vernon may be private, but it is serviced by
> the GW Parkway, which is park service.
>
> Obama using thugs...LOFL.
>
> Why resort to that type of crap?
>
> I expect more from grown people.


Get a fucking map or drive there some time. On the north end it is serviced by GW Parkway, on the south end it's a state road: not affected by the shutdown.

Further, Mr. Ass Clown, the parkway is open today.

Liberal Logic 28 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> No matter how much you say it it doesnt change the
> fact their benefits and plans are different from
> even other Federal Employees.

You're right. Congressmen & their staffs are treated much worse than other Federal Employees.

> Theyre congress not federal employees.

All memebers of Congress and their staffers are employees of the federal governement. The same with the president and all WHite House staffers: Employees of the federal governement.

Allow a vote on a clean CR! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Liberal Logic 28 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----

> You're right. Congressmen & their staffs are
> treated much worse than other Federal Employees.

You have to be trolling at this point, or this is how youre spending your day Connelly.


> All memebers of Congress and their staffers are
> employees of the federal governement. The same
> with the president and all WHite House staffers:
> Employees of the federal governement.

Clearly that went over your head.........

from the horse's mouth Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> You want to come at with me with the name calling
> because you are an unintelligent, uninformed,
> lying know nothing?

No, it's because it is important to draw attention to the fact that you are actually just another deceitful pinhead and worthless partisan fucktard. This place is crawling with just such vermin. The memo language you quoted above plainly states -- but apparently not plainly enough -- that OPM rulemaking is NOT completed and that any rules (whether interim or final) are expected to apply to some but not to all. Exacvtly nothing at all has yet been done or even reported in a meaningless FYI memo to resolve the actual problem -- the funding issues raised by the insufficiently specific language of the Grassley amendment text. This means that EXACTLY AS I FUCKING STATED ABOVE, "...either OPM or Congress itself will make it specific enough. In the meantime, dishonest dickheads will try to make some phony political issue out of it, just as they do with every other triviality they can think of. These folks are all worthless scum.

> So, speaking of worthless, I believe it explains
> your entire post. The CAO of the House of
> Representatives said that coverage under the FEHB
> ENDS Dec 31.

Worthless ignorant fucktard. The CAO of the House is not vested with any rule-making authority at all. He is vested with as-of-the moment FYI memo-issuing authority as he may choose to exercise that. His memo meanwhile states that current FEHB coverage will in any case continue through December 31. It says nothing at all about when such or any coverage at all might actually end. Are you too fucking stupid to have understood or in fact even recognized the difference between those two?

> Where's you get your talking points? The backside
> of Harry Reid's toilet paper. Your either stupid
> or a liar. Pick one.

Why don't you just come over here and blow me, you ignorant asswipe. Then expend at least some part of the rather considerable time and effort that would be required to elevate yourself by at least several levels of understanding. Until then, you remain just one more ignorant and useless dumbfuck, deceitful pinhead, and worthless trained-seal scumbag. Have a nice day, dickwad.

hGmt6 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> It's obviously both. And yes, it's "you're", but
> LOL! is the poster boy of fuckwadism.

Yeah, don't you just hate it when someone so much smarter than you makes you look like such a worthless fucking asshole? Why don't smart guys just leave the fucking idoots alone, anyway!

lying liars always lie Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Oh, and answer from the horse's mouth. He handed
> you a big bunch of fail and you folded like a
> cheap suit. It is clear the FEHB won't be
> available to Congress come Jan. 1 making you a big
> fucking liar!


What????? LOL is a big fucking liar????? Next you'll be trying to tell us that the earth revolves around the sun!

LOL! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> hGmt6 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > It's obviously both. And yes, it's "you're",
> but
> > LOL! is the poster boy of fuckwadism.
>
> Yeah, don't you just hate it when someone so much
> smarter than you makes you look like such a
> worthless fucking asshole? Why don't smart guys
> just leave the fucking idoots alone, anyway!

"idoots" LoLz....

Liberal Logic 28 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Allow a vote on a clean CR! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You're right. Congressmen & their staffs are
> > treated much worse than other Federal
> Employees.
>
> You have to be trolling at this point

You realize that this converstaion is exclusively about health insurance, right?

what other federal employees were kicked out of the government benefit plans and forced to go to the exchanges? Only Congress.

Wow! Holy hell wow!. Right there in black and white for your ignorant ass to read and you are too stupid to understand it.


LOL! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> from the horse's mouth Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You want to come at with me with the name
> calling
> > because you are an unintelligent, uninformed,
> > lying know nothing?
>
> No, it's because it is important to draw attention
> to the fact that you are actually just another
> deceitful pinhead and worthless partisan fucktard.
> This place is crawling with just such vermin.
> The memo language you quoted above plainly states
> -- but apparently not plainly enough -- that OPM
> rulemaking is NOT completed and that any rules
> (whether interim or final) are expected to apply
> to some but not to all.

Bullshit, lies or stupidity. Pick one.

From the memo:

Today, October 2, 2013, the Office of Personnel Management (OPM) published its final rule on section 1312(d)(3)(D) of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (ACA) which, effective January 1, 2014, limits the healthcare plans the Federal Government may make available to Members of Congress and certain congressional staff.

-----------------------

Do you understand what the word "final" means? Do you understand what the word "published" means? OPM has issued the rule and it is final. Not sure why you continue to provide misinformation.

> Exacvtly nothing at all
> has yet been done or even reported in a
> meaningless FYI memo to resolve the actual problem
> -- the funding issues raised by the insufficiently
> specific language of the Grassley amendment text.
> This means that EXACTLY AS I FUCKING STATED ABOVE,
> "...either OPM or Congress itself will make it
> specific enough. In the meantime, dishonest
> dickheads will try to make some phony political
> issue out of it, just as they do with every other
> triviality they can think of. These folks are all
> worthless scum.

OPM has spoken. Now it is up to the House CAO to implement the OPM FINAL Rule.

> > So, speaking of worthless, I believe it
> explains
> > your entire post. The CAO of the House of
> > Representatives said that coverage under the
> FEHB
> > ENDS Dec 31.
>
> Worthless ignorant fucktard. The CAO of the House
> is not vested with any rule-making authority at
> all.

No, but OPM is and OPM issued a FINAL Rule YESTERDAY! Is that sinking in yet, you ignorant slut?

> He is vested with as-of-the moment FYI
> memo-issuing authority as he may choose to
> exercise that. His memo meanwhile states that
> current FEHB coverage will in any case continue
> through December 31. It says nothing at all about
> when such or any coverage at all might actually
> end. Are you too fucking stupid to have
> understood or in fact even recognized the
> difference between those two?

Read the sentence AFTER the Dec. 31 deadline. (I know your lips are moving when you are reading it). What needs to happen in order to avoid a break in coverage? (instead of being a cocksucking ignoramus, actually answer the question for a change).

> > Where's you get your talking points? The
> backside
> > of Harry Reid's toilet paper. Your either
> stupid
> > or a liar. Pick one.
>
> Why don't you just come over here and blow me, you
> ignorant asswipe. Then expend at least some part
> of the rather considerable time and effort that
> would be required to elevate yourself by at least
> several levels of understanding. Until then, you
> remain just one more ignorant and useless
> dumbfuck, deceitful pinhead, and worthless
> trained-seal scumbag. Have a nice day, dickwad.

You mad cause I called your bullshit and took you to the mat?

Allow a vote on a clean CR! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Liberal Logic 28 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Allow a vote on a clean CR! Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > You're right. Congressmen & their staffs are
> > > treated much worse than other Federal
> > Employees.
> >
> > You have to be trolling at this point
>
> You realize that this converstaion is exclusively
> about health insurance, right?
>
> what other federal employees were kicked out of
> the government benefit plans and forced to go to
> the exchanges? Only Congress.

According to your dipshit liberal compatriot, that didn't happen. You retarded libs should coordinate your inane talking points.

Allow a vote on a clean CR! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Liberal Logic 28 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Allow a vote on a clean CR! Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > You're right. Congressmen & their staffs are
> > > treated much worse than other Federal
> > Employees.
> >
> > You have to be trolling at this point
>
> You realize that this converstaion is exclusively
> about health insurance, right?
>
> what other federal employees were kicked out of
> the government benefit plans and forced to go to
> the exchanges? Only Congress.


You do realize they wrote the law and voted on that to happen right?

You then understand they made sure they got special treatment in it getting coverage so great its available to no one else at a very small price right?

So tell me again how are they treated so much worse than everyone else?

Can you tell me the federal employees that get to vote on their pay raises?

How about that can vote on their healthcare plan?

Like I said either trolling or youre Gerry Connelly.

Liberal Logic 28 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> You then understand they made sure they got
> special treatment in it getting coverage so great
> its available to no one else at a very small price
> right?

That is completely untrue.

PS - It's really the staffers that I care about. Most Congressmen are wealthy enough that none of this effects them personally anyway. But for staffers making $30k/year, being forced to pay out-of-pocket for health insurance hurts.

Allow a vote on a clean CR! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------

> PS - It's really the staffers that I care about.
> Most Congressmen are wealthy enough that none of
> this effects them personally anyway. But for
> staffers making $30k/year, being forced to pay
> out-of-pocket for health insurance hurts.

No you clearly said that Congress gets treated worse than federal employees.

If Obamacare is so great why do staffers need special treatment?

So tell me again how are they treated so much worse than everyone else?

Can you tell me the federal employees that get to vote on their pay raises?

How about that can vote on their healthcare plan?

Like I said either trolling or youre Gerry Connelly.

FucktardIsU Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Are you brain dead or just such a disingenuous
> partisan dick sucker that you don't realize that
> taxpayers still are paying whether they also pay
> some small amount of their income through their
> own taxes or not?

Once more for the simple-minded, taxpayers INCLUDE public sector workers. They are paying at least as much and probably much more than you are. Every public sector worker I've ever talked to has understood this. You apparently do not.

> Who do you think pays their salary to begin with not
> to mention the pure contribution toward the benefits
> beyond that. The comparison to a private plan doesn't
> work in the case of public employees buttmunch.

Yup, another total right-wing illiterate too fucking desperately dull to realize that taxpayers and consumers are exactly the same group of people. There isn't anybody else out there, moron. Who do you think pays for private sector salaries and benefits over there, Goober? Consumers and taxpayers do, that's who. Too bad you never took any of them up on their offers of a free education. Now you're stuck being just another worthless basket-case right-wing dumbfuck. NIce going.

"is owned by the Mount Vernon Ladies’ Association"

my butt. let's see the Will of george's wife to see if she left it to the park system or the ladies.

no way i take it for granted, just dropped in the news, without a Will

no Will or record that hasn't been tampered with, then it is owned by the Park system surely.

they own it? so no doubt did they take loans out on it? they can sell it? to who scottish whiskey makers?

LOL! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> FucktardIsU Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Are you brain dead or just such a disingenuous
> > partisan dick sucker that you don't realize
> that
> > taxpayers still are paying whether they also
> pay
> > some small amount of their income through their
> > own taxes or not?
>
> Once more for the simple-minded, taxpayers INCLUDE
> public sector workers. They are paying at least
> as much and probably much more than you are.
> Every public sector worker I've ever talked to has
> understood this. You apparently do not.
>
> > Who do you think pays their salary to begin with
> not
> > to mention the pure contribution toward the
> benefits
> > beyond that. The comparison to a private plan
> doesn't
> > work in the case of public employees buttmunch.
>
> Yup, another total right-wing illiterate too
> fucking desperately dull to realize that taxpayers
> and consumers are exactly the same group of
> people. There isn't anybody else out there,
> moron. Who do you think pays for private sector
> salaries and benefits over there, Goober?
> Consumers and taxpayers do, that's who. Too bad
> you never took any of them up on their offers of a
> free education. Now you're stuck being just
> another worthless basket-case right-wing dumbfuck.
> NIce going.


Tell us again how OPM hasn't issued the final rule. That retarded lie was a classic. For someone that got his ass handed to him, you have a lot of nerve showing your lying face here.

LOL! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> FucktardIsU Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Are you brain dead or just such a disingenuous
> > partisan dick sucker that you don't realize
> that
> > taxpayers still are paying whether they also
> pay
> > some small amount of their income through their
> > own taxes or not?
>
> Once more for the simple-minded, taxpayers INCLUDE
> public sector workers. They are paying at least
> as much and probably much more than you are.
> Every public sector worker I've ever talked to has
> understood this. You apparently do not.
>
> > Who do you think pays their salary to begin with
> not
> > to mention the pure contribution toward the
> benefits
> > beyond that. The comparison to a private plan
> doesn't
> > work in the case of public employees buttmunch.
>
> Yup, another total right-wing illiterate too
> fucking desperately dull to realize that taxpayers
> and consumers are exactly the same group of
> people. There isn't anybody else out there,
> moron. Who do you think pays for private sector
> salaries and benefits over there, Goober?
> Consumers and taxpayers do, that's who. Too bad
> you never took any of them up on their offers of a
> free education. Now you're stuck being just
> another worthless basket-case right-wing dumbfuck.
> NIce going.


Sticking with the premise that public-sector workers cover their own salary and benefits huh? One big closed-cycle perpetual money machine. lmao Come on, even a mindless ultra-partisan chunk of Pelosi's cunt cheese like you can do better than trying to pull some false equivalency between consumers and taxpayers out of your well-worn asshole.

I worked in the public sector for a long time moron. But I'm not fucking dumb enough to pretend that I paid my own cost. I had an even better deal at the time - fully paid insurance, dollar-for-dollar matching to a savings plan, free parking downtown in the garage of our nice K street offices, fat bonuses and deferred comp plans, plus a generous pension plan if I'd stuck around that long. Any tiny percentage of my taxes which I paid toward any of it amounted to squat. As does it does in the case of all of the rest of public-sector workers.

"is owned by the Mount Vernon Ladies’ Association"

my butt. let's see the Will of george's wife to see if she left it to the park system or the ladies.

no way i take it for granted, just dropped in the news, without a Will

no Will or record that hasn't been tampered with, then it is owned by the Park system surely.

they own it? so no doubt did they take loans out on it? they can sell it? to who scottish whiskey makers?




Are you a retard who somehow got access to a keyboard?

Tray von Martin Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> How fricking dumb Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Mt Vernon may be private, but it is serviced by
> > the GW Parkway, which is park service.
> >
> > Obama using thugs...LOFL.
> >
> > Why resort to that type of crap?
> >
> > I expect more from grown people.
>
>
> Get a fucking map or drive there some time. On the
> north end it is serviced by GW Parkway, on the
> south end it's a state road: not affected by the
> shutdown.
>
> Further, Mr. Ass Clown, the parkway is open today.


First of all, it's Ms. Ass Clown to you, Mr. Man.

So, is it not serviced by the GW Parkway? It is, isn't it? You even said so, you little devil.

And yes, sweety, you are right. The parkway was in fact open today. I don't recall that I said it wasn't, did I, sugarshorts?

Very good on all points, love.

I think I found a new tough guy to love.

Sorry Sven, you're wrong again. You won't find anything in Washington's will about the Mount Vernon Ladies Association, because they didn't buy it out of the family until just before the Civil War. It was in pretty bad shape then, and they turned it around.




publicsolicitation Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> "is owned by the Mount Vernon Ladies’
> Association"
>
> my butt. let's see the Will of george's wife to
> see if she left it to the park system or the
> ladies.
>
> no way i take it for granted, just dropped in the
> news, without a Will
>
> no Will or record that hasn't been tampered with,
> then it is owned by the Park system surely.
>
> they own it? so no doubt did they take loans out
> on it? they can sell it? to who scottish whiskey
> makers?

Quiz4U Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> And the WWII Memorial would be located _________.
> Fucktard

On THe Mall...right across the street from the Washington Monument. Federal monuments, museums, and parks are closed on account of the shutdown. Just as they were in 1995/96. Useless ignorant asshat.

Okay, please look into the history of what happened to Mt. Vernon after George's death.

It was falling into disrepair -- falling apart -- and the ladies were able to buy it, fix it up, and make it into what it is today. They felt it should become a national treasure since it was the home of the "Father of our Country." They have done a lot to make a go of it and restore the property to what it was like when George and Martha lived there.

If not, Fairfax County would have had it gobble up for development long ago...

lying liars always lie Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> And you could walk up the steps of the Lincoln
> Memorial. Now there are barricades because of the
> manufactured crisis.

Like all federal monumnets. museums, and parks, the Lincoln Memorial is and was closed either way. The crisis meanwhile is the Tea Party Republican Terrorist Hostage-Taking Government Shutdown of 2013.

> Oh, and answer from the horse's mouth. He handed
> you a big bunch of fail and you folded like a
> cheap suit. It is clear the FEHB won't be
> available to Congress come Jan. 1 making you a big
> fucking liar!

The one thing that everybody actually involved DOES agree on is that nobody knows yet what the funding of health care for employees affected by the Grassley amendment will look like. Your pal, Horse's Ass, simply bobbled the ball left and right. He is just as fucking clueless as anyone else about how either OPM or Congress itself will eventually work things out, but he chooses to lie about that. This is what makes him a total asswipe and fuckwad. Believeing him is what does it for you.

JE4x6 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> What????? LOL is a big fucking liar????? Next
> you'll be trying to tell us that the earth
> revolves around the sun!

More butthurt, Pretty funny. I guess when LOL! hurts your butt, the pain is really long-lasting.

LoLz! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> "idoots" LoLz....

Promoted to the Typo Police? How fucking impressive.

LOL! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> JE4x6 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > What????? LOL is a big fucking liar????? Next
> > you'll be trying to tell us that the earth
> > revolves around the sun!
>
> More butthurt, Pretty funny. I guess when LOL!
> hurts your butt, the pain is really long-lasting.


Pure gold your posts are. LoLz....


.
Attachments:

LOL! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> lying liars always lie Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > And you could walk up the steps of the Lincoln
> > Memorial. Now there are barricades because of
> the
> > manufactured crisis.
>
> Like all federal monumnets. museums, and parks,
> the Lincoln Memorial is and was closed either way.
> The crisis meanwhile is the Tea Party Republican
> Terrorist Hostage-Taking Government Shutdown of
> 2013.

Complete and total bullshit. In the '95 and '96 shutdowns, there were no barricades. Tourists were free to visit the monuments.





> > Oh, and answer from the horse's mouth. He
> handed
> > you a big bunch of fail and you folded like a
> > cheap suit. It is clear the FEHB won't be
> > available to Congress come Jan. 1 making you a
> big
> > fucking liar!
>
> The one thing that everybody actually involved
> DOES agree on is that nobody knows yet what the
> funding of health care for employees affected by
> the Grassley amendment will look like. Your pal,
> Horse's Ass, simply bobbled the ball left and
> right. He is just as fucking clueless as anyone
> else about how either OPM or Congress itself will
> eventually work things out, but he chooses to lie
> about that. This is what makes him a total
> asswipe and fuckwad. Believeing him is what does
> it for you.

Again, more bullshit. The FINAL rule has been PUBLISHED. There is no "eventually" as OPM has issued a FINAL rule. You claimed that the FEHB will be available for Congressional employees. The CAO's own memo indicates it won't be. I assume you know more than the House CAO. Again, you are either a liar or a retard. Pick one.

Liberal Logic 28 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> No you clearly said that Congress gets treated
> worse than federal employees.

I understand that you're a partisan hack. Perhaps that's why you're being so obtuse. Or, maybe you're just an idiot. Nonetheless...

"Congress" is a branch of the federal government. It is not 535 people. Every person who works in the in the US Capital works for Congress, all of the people who work in the Senate & House office buildings work for Congress. Got it? The cooks in the Senate dining room do not 'get to vote on their pay raises'. Dumbass.

The ACA exists to ensure the availability of health insurance for Americans not already covered. Congress, comprised of federal workers, was already covered under the same sysem that covers other federal employees.

Under the ACA, the only federal employees who are kicked out of the federal health insurance system are employees of the US Congress. That is disparate treatment which is worse than the treatment received by other federal workers.

Allow a vote on a clean CR! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Liberal Logic 28 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > No you clearly said that Congress gets treated
> > worse than federal employees.
>
> I understand that you're a partisan hack. Perhaps
> that's why you're being so obtuse. Or, maybe
> you're just an idiot. Nonetheless...
>
> "Congress" is a branch of the federal government.
> It is not 535 people. Every person who works in
> the in the US Capital works for Congress, all of
> the people who work in the Senate & House office
> buildings work for Congress. Got it? The cooks
> in the Senate dining room do not 'get to vote on
> their pay raises'. Dumbass.
>
> The ACA exists to ensure the availability of
> health insurance for Americans not already
> covered. Congress, comprised of federal workers,
> was already covered under the same sysem that
> covers other federal employees.
>
> Under the ACA, the only federal employees who are
> kicked out of the federal health insurance system
> are employees of the US Congress. That is
> disparate treatment which is worse than the
> treatment received by other federal workers.


So, you are saying the ACA is not that good? If it is such a raw deal, why do the rest of us have to comply with it?

from the horse's mouth Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Wow! Holy hell wow!. Right there in black and
> white for your ignorant ass to read and you are
> too stupid to understand it.

Let's recap, asshole. Your "black and white" is a meaningless FYI pass-through advisory from an out-of-the-loop admin functionary. You either misundertood or deliberately misrepresented the scope and authority of this source. You misrepresented what was actually said. You failed to notice that what was actually said was fully consistent with my earlier post. Could you have fucked things up any more royally? Probably, but just how would not be immediately apparent.

> Do you understand what the word "final" means?

Yes indeed, fuckwad. In fact, I'm more than merely familiar with a variety of this word's multiple meanings, which is why I so easily recognize your worthlessly feeble attempt at a fallacy of equivocation. Since you so desperately need the following guidance, the final rule of Sep 30 was issued in order to un-interim the interim rule of August 7 in advance of the government shutdown, The final rule is no more final in the inapplicable sense that you want to apply than was the final rule that this final rule superceded. There will be further final rules that alter and amend the one of Sep 30. Of course, stupid dumbshits will not have thought through any of that. Too fucking stupid.

> Do you understand what the word "published" means?

Yes, and as above, I even understand that this rule was actually published on Monday,Sep 30, not Wednesday, Oct 2. You and your flim-flam out-of-the-loop gasbag source could not get so much as the fucking date correct.

> OPM has issued the rule and it is final. Not sure
> why you continue to provide misinformation.

Come on, fucktard. The misinformation here is confined to your own small and feckless mind. It is unfortunately slopping over into public space where it might come to contaminate others.

> OPM has spoken. Now it is up to the House CAO to
> implement the OPM FINAL Rule.

No responsibilities at all were delegated by this rule to the House CAO. Conduct of health insurance programs for federal employees is an OPM matter. Your functionary boy will be counted on to pass on further FYI advisories that have no other force or effect at all. One of the key take-aways from the actual final rule of Sep 30 in fact is the matter of how little is actually final at this point.

> No, but OPM is and OPM issued a FINAL Rule
> YESTERDAY! Is that sinking in yet, you ignorant
> slut?

Yo, asswipe! It was fucking issued on Monday, not Wednesday, and it's only final until either Congress or OPM addresses the need to make it un-final again. Just as was noted in an earlier post not made by you.

> Read the sentence AFTER the Dec. 31 deadline.

No new information.

> What needs to happen in order to avoid a
> break in coverage?

No one knows the answer to that question yet, although there are ways in which affected employees (whoever they may be) could choose to terminate their current coverage and start coverage under a different plan. Only a few of those different plans are yet available though.

> (instead of being a cocksucking ignoramus, actually answer the
> question for a change).

One part of the answer to all of your posts and questions has been that you are an ignorant lying fucktard. This is because you are an ignorant lying fucktard.

> You mad cause I called your bullshit and took you
> to the mat?

That's a laugh. Come on back, and we can explore such further levels of your ignorance and incompetence as you may in that act reveal. Or you could always just go fuck yourself.

raw deal? Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> So, you are saying the ACA is not that good? If
> it is such a raw deal, why do the rest of us have
> to comply with it?


Attachments:

Why are all Republicans mentally unstable these days? Is this what happens when angry white males suppress hatred for so long? They all need to go on benzos and chill the fuck out. They are embarrassing themselves.

LOL! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> from the horse's mouth Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Wow! Holy hell wow!. Right there in black and
> > white for your ignorant ass to read and you are
> > too stupid to understand it.
>
> Let's recap, asshole. Your "black and white" is a
> meaningless FYI pass-through advisory from an
> out-of-the-loop admin functionary. You either
> misundertood or deliberately misrepresented the
> scope and authority of this source. You
> misrepresented what was actually said. You failed
> to notice that what was actually said was fully
> consistent with my earlier post. Could you have
> fucked things up any more royally? Probably, but
> just how would not be immediately apparent.
>
> > Do you understand what the word "final" means?
>
>
> Yes indeed, fuckwad. In fact, I'm more than
> merely familiar with a variety of this word's
> multiple meanings, which is why I so easily
> recognize your worthlessly feeble attempt at a
> fallacy of equivocation. Since you so desperately
> need the following guidance, the final rule of Sep
> 30 was issued in order to un-interim the interim
> rule of August 7 in advance of the government
> shutdown, The final rule is no more final in the
> inapplicable sense that you want to apply than was
> the final rule that this final rule superceded.
> There will be further final rules that alter and
> amend the one of Sep 30. Of course, stupid
> dumbshits will not have thought through any of
> that. Too fucking stupid.
>
> > Do you understand what the word "published"
> means?
>
> Yes, and as above, I even understand that this
> rule was actually published on Monday,Sep 30, not
> Wednesday, Oct 2. You and your flim-flam
> out-of-the-loop gasbag source could not get so
> much as the fucking date correct.
>
> > OPM has issued the rule and it is final. Not
> sure
> > why you continue to provide misinformation.
>
> Come on, fucktard. The misinformation here is
> confined to your own small and feckless mind. It
> is unfortunately slopping over into public space
> where it might come to contaminate others.
>
> > OPM has spoken. Now it is up to the House CAO
> to
> > implement the OPM FINAL Rule.
>
> No responsibilities at all were delegated by this
> rule to the House CAO. Conduct of health
> insurance programs for federal employees is an OPM
> matter. Your functionary boy will be counted on
> to pass on further FYI advisories that have no
> other force or effect at all. One of the key
> take-aways from the actual final rule of Sep 30 in
> fact is the matter of how little is actually final
> at this point.
>
> > No, but OPM is and OPM issued a FINAL Rule
> > YESTERDAY! Is that sinking in yet, you
> ignorant
> > slut?
>
> Yo, asswipe! It was fucking issued on Monday, not
> Wednesday, and it's only final until either
> Congress or OPM addresses the need to make it
> un-final again. Just as was noted in an earlier
> post not made by you.
>
> > Read the sentence AFTER the Dec. 31 deadline.
>
> No new information.
>
> > What needs to happen in order to avoid a
> > break in coverage?
>
> No one knows the answer to that question yet,
> although there are ways in which affected
> employees (whoever they may be) could choose to
> terminate their current coverage and start
> coverage under a different plan. Only a few of
> those different plans are yet available though.
>
> > (instead of being a cocksucking ignoramus,
> actually answer the
> > question for a change).
>
> One part of the answer to all of your posts and
> questions has been that you are an ignorant lying
> fucktard. This is because you are an ignorant
> lying fucktard.
>
> > You mad cause I called your bullshit and took
> you
> > to the mat?
>
> That's a laugh. Come on back, and we can explore
> such further levels of your ignorance and
> incompetence as you may in that act reveal. Or
> you could always just go fuck yourself.


I'm back, bitch. Here is the rule issued on OCTOBER 2ND.

https://www.federalregister.gov/articles/2013/10/02/2013-23565/federal-employees-health-benefits-program-members-of-congress-and-congressional-staff

From the Rule: OPM was asked to clarify the termination date for current FEHB plan coverage. Current FEHB health plan enrollment for Members of Congress and congressional staff employed by the official office of a Member of Congress will terminate at midnight on December 31, 2013.

Your lies are fucking lies. They stink (like you do) to high heaven. It is right there for the world to seem, but you are either too big a liar or too big a retard to admit to it.

Do you have any other flatulence to emit from your mouth, butthurt bitch?

dahur Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> According to your dipshit liberal compatriot, that
> didn't happen. You retarded libs should
> coordinate your inane talking points.

You should take one of those "Reading for Comprehension" classes. Maybe NOVA offers one if your local FCPS facility doesn't. Although many seem still to be unaware of it, no one has questioned the origin or existence of the Grassley amendment. What's been pointed out as a bunch of total asswipe malarkey are all these fucktard claims about what the effects of it are or will be. The actual effects of it are not known yet since the language of the amendment was not sufficiently specific. Either OPM or Congress itself will have to act to provide such specificity. Under current conditions, people are forced into merely guessing at what the law might mean, and that includes people at OPM.

LOL! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> dahur Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > According to your dipshit liberal compatriot,
> that
> > didn't happen. You retarded libs should
> > coordinate your inane talking points.
>
> You should take one of those "Reading for
> Comprehension" classes. Maybe NOVA offers one if
> your local FCPS facility doesn't. Although many
> seem still to be unaware of it, no one has
> questioned the origin or existence of the Grassley
> amendment. What's been pointed out as a bunch of
> total asswipe malarkey are all these fucktard
> claims about what the effects of it are or will
> be. The actual effects of it are not known yet
> since the language of the amendment was not
> sufficiently specific. Either OPM or Congress
> itself will have to act to provide such
> specificity. Under current conditions, people are
> forced into merely guessing at what the law might
> mean, and that includes people at OPM.


WRONG, butthurt bitch!

Final Rule:

https://www.federalregister.gov/articles/2013/10/02/2013-23565/federal-employees-health-benefits-program-members-of-congress-and-congressional-staff

OPM was asked to clarify the termination date for current FEHB plan coverage. Current FEHB health plan enrollment for Members of Congress and congressional staff employed by the official office of a Member of Congress will terminate at midnight on December 31, 20.

Again, look up the definition of FINAL.

You LIE! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Tell us again how OPM hasn't issued the final
> rule. That retarded lie was a classic. For
> someone that got his ass handed to him, you have a
> lot of nerve showing your lying face here.

Better go back to your pottery classes, dumbfuck. It may take a while, but these physical approaches can turn out to be quite therapeutic over the long run. You could always just blow me of course if you wanted to branch out from pottery a bit.

Allow a vote on a clean CR! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------

> I understand that you're a partisan hack. Perhaps
> that's why you're being so obtuse. Or, maybe
> you're just an idiot. Nonetheless...

Thats humorous coming from a guy arguing that Congress is treated poorly.......

I know facts piss you off, they get in the way of the indoctrination.

> "Congress" is a branch of the federal government.
> It is not 535 people. Every person who works in
> the in the US Capital works for Congress, all of
> the people who work in the Senate & House office
> buildings work for Congress. Got it? The cooks
> in the Senate dining room do not 'get to vote on
> their pay raises'. Dumbass.

Those are people that work for congress and congressional staff not Congress. Or do you also think a Special Agent is the FBI?

You didnt say staff, you said Congress. Youre trying to back track now because only someone in a coma doesnt mean Congress when they say Congress. If they meant the staff they would say congressional staff. I guess thats too hard for you.

Tell me again how Congress is treated so poorly?

> The ACA exists to ensure the availability of
> health insurance for Americans not already
> covered. Congress, comprised of federal workers,
> was already covered under the same sysem that
> covers other federal employees.

No they werent covered under the same system theyre covered on a special system with special benefits.

> Under the ACA, the only federal employees who are
> kicked out of the federal health insurance system
> are employees of the US Congress. That is
> disparate treatment which is worse than the
> treatment received by other federal workers.

Again you do understand Congress wrote the bill in the first place?

When you get to write the bill anything thats a result of it isnt a disparity.

It worries me that you dont seem to have any understanding of how this actually works.

You also havent addressed why they should get special plans with special rates?

If Obamacare is so great why cant they be a part of the exchange like everyone else?

Nacy Pelosi said the plans would be too expensive for her staff so they need special rates.

LOL! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> You LIE! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Tell us again how OPM hasn't issued the final
> > rule. That retarded lie was a classic. For
> > someone that got his ass handed to him, you have
> a
> > lot of nerve showing your lying face here.
>
> Better go back to your pottery classes, dumbfuck.
> It may take a while, but these physical approaches
> can turn out to be quite therapeutic over the long
> run. You could always just blow me of course if
> you wanted to branch out from pottery a bit.

After getting your ass handed to you, you are inviting strange men on the internet to provide you with oral sex.

Yeah, you're one butthurt lyin' lil' bitch.

Final Rule:

https://www.federalregister.gov/articles/2013/10/02/2013-23565/federal-employees-health-benefits-program-members-of-congress-and-congressional-staff

OPM was asked to clarify the termination date for current FEHB plan coverage. Current FEHB health plan enrollment for Members of Congress and congressional staff employed by the official office of a Member of Congress will terminate at midnight on December 31, 20.

FucktardIsU Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Sticking with the premise that public-sector
> workers cover their own salary and benefits huh?
> One big closed-cycle perpetual money machine. lmao

Failure to follow along. Falling through the cracks of such logical discontinuities seems to be a characteriostic of right-wing dumbfucks. To recap for the really slow on the uptake here, a suggestion was made that taxpayers pay for both the wages and benefits of public sector workers. It is no less true that public sector workers are themselves taxpayers, that the wages and benefits of private sector workers are paid for by consumers, and that the sets of taxpayers and consumers are in fact very nearly identical to each other. Hence the original distinction is one without a difference. It is all a case of six of one, half a dozen of the other, but right-wimgers are too damned stupid to notice.

LOL! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> FucktardIsU Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Sticking with the premise that public-sector
> > workers cover their own salary and benefits huh?
>
> > One big closed-cycle perpetual money machine.
> lmao
>
> Failure to follow along. Falling through the
> cracks of such logical discontinuities seems to be
> a characteriostic of right-wing dumbfucks. To
> recap for the really slow on the uptake here, a
> suggestion was made that taxpayers pay for both
> the wages and benefits of public sector workers.
> It is no less true that public sector workers are
> themselves taxpayers, that the wages and benefits
> of private sector workers are paid for by
> consumers, and that the sets of taxpayers and
> consumers are in fact very nearly identical to
> each other. Hence the original distinction is one
> without a difference. It is all a case of six of
> one, half a dozen of the other, but right-wimgers
> are too damned stupid to notice.


Speaking of failure to follow along:

Final Rule:

https://www.federalregister.gov/articles/2013/10/02/2013-23565/federal-employees-health-benefits-program-members-of-congress-and-congressional-staff

OPM was asked to clarify the termination date for current FEHB plan coverage. Current FEHB health plan enrollment for Members of Congress and congressional staff employed by the official office of a Member of Congress will terminate at midnight on December 31, 20.

same treatment Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Allow a vote on a clean CR! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > same treatment Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > OK. I want to be treated just like Congress.
>
> > I
> > > want the feds to pony up the contributions
> for
> > > premiums on the exchanges.
> >
> > No. You don't work for the gov't., Congressmen
> > and their staffs do, so they EARN the benefits
> > (including health insurance) that they receive.
>
> And they should abide by the law that has forced
> many people into the exchanges. It is only EARNED
> because of the way they wrote the law. They
> created a two class system. One for them and one
> for everyone else. This is the Democrat idea of
> fairness?

Agree with the last poster. Congress wrote the law so they would be exempt. Talk about self-serving! What a racket the liberals have going. Say and do anything to further their own agenda, and the liberal media actually falls for it.

LOL! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> FucktardIsU Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Sticking with the premise that public-sector
> > workers cover their own salary and benefits huh?
>
> > One big closed-cycle perpetual money machine.
> lmao
>
> Failure to follow along. Falling through the
> cracks of such logical discontinuities seems to be
> a characteriostic of right-wing dumbfucks. To
> recap for the really slow on the uptake here, a
> suggestion was made that taxpayers pay for both
> the wages and benefits of public sector workers.
> It is no less true that public sector workers are
> themselves taxpayers, that the wages and benefits
> of private sector workers are paid for by
> consumers, and that the sets of taxpayers and
> consumers are in fact very nearly identical to
> each other. Hence the original distinction is one
> without a difference. It is all a case of six of
> one, half a dozen of the other, but right-wimgers
> are too damned stupid to notice.

Making disingenuous arguments which attempt to obscure the actual matter and omit little details of things such as magnitude - a characteristic of failing fucktards like you.

To try to argue that taxpayer funds are not the source from which Congress and staff and any subsidies to their benefits and/or contributions by them are paid, which was the point, on the basis that the latter also are taxpayers is idiotic. To further try to equate nonvoluntary taxpayers to voluntary consumers is just digging your stupid hole deeper.

You made a lame-ass argument. Live with it. Bitch.

LoLz! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Pure gold your posts are. LoLz....

So, back to coloring-book mode, I see. It's more suited to your talents and developmental level, I'm sure.

LOL! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> LoLz! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Pure gold your posts are. LoLz....
>
> So, back to coloring-book mode, I see. It's more
> suited to your talents and developmental level,
> I'm sure.


Is that what you were doing when you could have been reading the FINAL OPM rule?

from the horse's mouth Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Again, more bullshit. The FINAL rule has been
> PUBLISHED. There is no "eventually" as OPM has
> issued a FINAL rule.

Invest in a fucking dictionary, asswipe. You have so far done a complete crash-and-burn on such advanced vocabulary as "final" and "closed". That's a fuckup already in like the fifth grade, Did you ever get past that?

> You claimed that the FEHB will be available for
> Congressional employees. The CAO's own memo
> indicates it won't be.

Moron. The set of Congressional employees who will be effected in any way at all by the Grassley amendment has not been determined yet. What the effects will be on those who are effected has not been determined yet either.

> I assume you know more than the House CAO.

I have not spoken with the gentleman, but it would appear that this might very well be the case. Of course, I'm in a position to speak freely. He is not.

> Again, you are either a liar or a retard. Pick one.

You're a fucking chicken with his damned fool head cut off. You haven't been right about anything, asswipe. A munchkin-on-the-street might well have done better at this.

LOL! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> from the horse's mouth Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Again, more bullshit. The FINAL rule has been
> > PUBLISHED. There is no "eventually" as OPM has
> > issued a FINAL rule.
>
> Invest in a fucking dictionary, asswipe. You have
> so far done a complete crash-and-burn on such
> advanced vocabulary as "final" and "closed".
> That's a fuckup already in like the fifth grade,
> Did you ever get past that?

Funny coming from a dipshit that doesn't understand that FINAL means the end as in no mas, finito.

> > You claimed that the FEHB will be available for
>
> > Congressional employees. The CAO's own memo
> > indicates it won't be.
>
> Moron. The set of Congressional employees who
> will be effected in any way at all by the Grassley
> amendment has not been determined yet. What the
> effects will be on those who are effected has not
> been determined yet either.

More bullshit. The FINAL OPM rule lays it out in very clear fashion. It leaves that to the CAO of the House for House Members. The CAO has indicated that FEHB is ending on Dec. 31.


> > I assume you know more than the House CAO.
>
> I have not spoken with the gentleman, but it would
> appear that this might very well be the case. Of
> course, I'm in a position to speak freely. He is
> not.

Wow, we can add delusions of grandeur to your list of psychiatric symptoms.

> > Again, you are either a liar or a retard. Pick
> one.
>
> You're a fucking chicken with his damned fool head
> cut off. You haven't been right about anything,
> asswipe. A munchkin-on-the-street might well have
> done better at this.


I am the only one providing links to actual documents. You keep vomiting nonsense. You don't even know the date the final rule was issued. Provide some backup for your bullshit lies. You won't because you can't.

You're still a butthurt lyin' lil bitch! Stick to trolling for cock here, it seems to be the only thing you are telling the truth about.

Are you this much of a whiney lil bitch in real life or do you just play a lying lil bitch on the internet?

from the horse's mouth Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I'm back, bitch. Here is the rule issued on
> OCTOBER 2ND.

Here is the actual fucking rule dated September 30, you mindless fucking cave-dweller.

http://www.opm.gov/retirement-services/publications-forms/benefits-administration-letters/2013/13-207.pdf

> From the Rule: OPM was asked to clarify the
> termination date for current FEHB plan coverage.

> Current FEHB health plan enrollment for Members of
> Congress and congressional staff employed by the
> official office of a Member of Congress will
> terminate at midnight on December 31, 2013.

Amazing. You don't know the difference between "enrollment" and "coverage" either. Epic fucking dictionary-fail at every turn.

> Your lies are fucking lies. They stink (like you
> do) to high heaven. It is right there for the
> world to seem, but you are either too big a liar
> or too big a retard to admit to it.

You have no practical knowledge even of the basic vocabulary. The set of employees who may be affected by the Grassley amendment has not been determined yet. The actual effects that will impact upon whomever those people might turn out to be have also not been determined yet. Anyone too dumb to grasp these basic facts is deserving of dismissal as just another deceitful pinhead and worthless partisan fucktard.

> Do you have any other flatulence to emit from your
> mouth, butthurt bitch?

Sure! Numbskulls don't do well in shooting off their damned-fool mouths. The chances of someone much smarter being around is far too high. Is there meanwhile anything else you wanted to say something completely stupid about?

from the horse's mouth Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Again, look up the definition of FINAL.

The word "final" has a variety of meanings, asswipe. You appear to know only one of them -- one that doesn't apply in the current context. That's what being a worthless ignorant dumbfuck will do to you, little boy.

Allow a vote on a clean CR! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Boo fuckin' whoo, you wingnut teabagging asswipe.
>
> Let the House vote on a clean CR!



It takes more than one to have a standoff. The Dems stance "We will not negotiate sounds like they are the one's holding the country hostage. Why not offer a counter proposal say 6 month delay. This country is a laughing stock right now to the whole world.

From the play book of the 0bama/reid/Pelosi/Connolly!
Attachments:

LOL! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> from the horse's mouth Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I'm back, bitch. Here is the rule issued on
> > OCTOBER 2ND.
>
> Here is the actual fucking rule dated September
> 30, you mindless fucking cave-dweller.
>
> http://www.opm.gov/retirement-services/publication
> s-forms/benefits-administration-letters/2013/13-20
> 7.pdf

Ass licker, that is a benefits administration letter, not a rule. Jebus, stupid AND stubborn. You mother must be so disappointed she carried your stupid ass for nine months.

> > From the Rule: OPM was asked to clarify the
> > termination date for current FEHB plan
> coverage.
>
> > Current FEHB health plan enrollment for Members
> of
> > Congress and congressional staff employed by
> the
> > official office of a Member of Congress will
> > terminate at midnight on December 31, 2013.
>
> Amazing. You don't know the difference between
> "enrollment" and "coverage" either. Epic fucking
> dictionary-fail at every turn.

Sure I do. And OPM made it clear there is no grandfathering.

From the OPM FAQs:

Q. When will current coverage terminate for Members of Congress and designated Congressional staff?
A. Current FEHB health plan enrollment for Members of Congress and designated congressional staff will terminate at midnight on December 31, 2013. An additional 31 days of coverage is included after the termination date at no cost to the enrollee. Members of Congress and designated congressional staff who chose to purchase health insurance via the appropriate SHOP as determined by the Director may do so with an effective date of January 1, 2014.


> > Your lies are fucking lies. They stink (like
> you
> > do) to high heaven. It is right there for the
> > world to seem, but you are either too big a
> liar
> > or too big a retard to admit to it.
>
> You have no practical knowledge even of the basic
> vocabulary. The set of employees who may be
> affected by the Grassley amendment has not been
> determined yet.

Yes it has.

> The actual effects that will
> impact upon whomever those people might turn out
> to be have also not been determined yet.

Yes it has. Documents have been provided indicating as much.

> Anyone too dumb to grasp these basic facts is deserving
> of dismissal as just another deceitful pinhead and
> worthless partisan fucktard.

Looking for a partisan fucktard?

Order something from here:

http://www.simplymirrors.com/

Wait a few days, open package, take a look. Wala, there's your partisan fucktard.

> > Do you have any other flatulence to emit from
> your
> > mouth, butthurt bitch?
>
> Sure! Numbskulls don't do well in shooting off
> their damned-fool mouths. The chances of someone
> much smarter being around is far too high. Is
> there meanwhile anything else you wanted to say
> something completely stupid about?

Nah, you've more than covered the stupid department. But, by all means, double down on that stupidity some more! I have no problem humiliating you further. Fucking pussy ass butthurt bitch.

FucktardIsU Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Making disingenuous arguments which attempt to
> obscure the actual matter and omit little details
> of things such as magnitude - a characteristic of
> failing fucktards like you.

What?

> To try to argue that taxpayer funds are not the
> source from which Congress and staff and any
> subsidies to their benefits and/or contributions
> by them are paid, which was the point, on the
> basis that the latter also are taxpayers is
> idiotic.

How so? You pay taxes and some of those go to pay the wages and benefits of public sector workers. Public sector workers pay taxes and some of those go to pay the wages and benefits of public sector workers. Lots of different people, just one boat.

> To further try to equate nonvoluntary taxpayers
> voluntary consumers is just digging your stupid
> hole deeper.

Really? Try loading up a cart full of groceries and then walking out the front door with it. Send us a letter from jail about how "voluntary" the whole paying for it thing turned out to be. Fucking asshats everywhere.

> You made a lame-ass argument. Live with it. Bitch.

Not nearly all of the things that go sailing right over your timy little pea-brained head are lame-ass. Most of the slop and drool that comes out of your fucking mouth is, though.

LOL! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> from the horse's mouth Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Again, look up the definition of FINAL.
>
> The word "final" has a variety of meanings,
> asswipe. You appear to know only one of them --
> one that doesn't apply in the current context.
> That's what being a worthless ignorant dumbfuck
> will do to you, little boy.

Here is the context provided by OPM. So, go suck a donkey dick ya lil lyin' butthurt pussy.

Q. Why is OPM publishing this final rule?
A. This final rule is being published to clarify the eligibility of Members of Congress and designated Congressional staff members for health insurance coverage under the Federal Employees Health Benefits (FEHB) Program. Section 1312 of the Affordable Care Act requires that Members of Congress and designated Congressional staff must obtain coverage by health plans created under the Affordable Care Act or coverage offered via an Affordable Insurance Exchange (Exchanges).

And why is the federal budget tied to Obamacare? Why isn't it tied to some other law that people don't like? Why? ?????? Federal budgets are not about proposals and counterproposals on laws that have already been passed. This is ludicrous. If the Republicans want a new health care law, they should propose one and put it through Congress per the procedures in place. Of course the Dems don't want to negotiate because the whole premise of this debacle is just plain wrong and weird.

from the horse's mouth Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Ass licker, that is a benefits administration
> letter, not a rule.

Oh dear. The interim rule was set in a BAL also, you ignorant asswipe. Not too fucking familiar with the process, are you. What a total fucktard.

> Sure I do. And OPM made it clear there is no
> grandfathering.

That has exactly nothing to do with your usual -- one might say, typical -- semantic stumbling, fumbling, and bumbling over the difference between "enrollment" and "coverage". But since you foolishly bring it up, the only thing that covered employees (whoever they are) could not be grandfathered into would be their current FEHB plans. These so far theoretical people would need to acquire coverage through an ACA exchange instead of through an FEHB exchange. It could be the very same plan from the very same issuer. It would only need to be purchased through an ACA exchange. Congressional employees who are not covered by the amendment will of course simply sail into 2014 and beyond with their same old FEHB plan coverage intact. Unless of course they choose to make an Open Season change, just as would be the case in any other year.

> Yes it has.

No, you obliviously ignorant fuckwad, it has not. No one yet knows which Congressional employees might be covered, in part because members themselves will have considerable leeway and discretion in identifying any such employees, and it has not been ruled out that such discretion might end in identifying no one at all who would be covered. Just one more thing from all those lands lying totally outside your pathetic blindered ken.

> Yes it has. Documents have been provided
> indicating as much.

No, fuckwad. In your fabulous ignorance, you misconstrue and misinterpret everything. Not everyone does that.

> Looking for a partisan fucktard? Order something from here:
> http://www.simplymirrors.com/ Wait a few days, open package, take a look.
> Wala, there's your partisan fucktard.

Seriously? Wala? How fucked up is that anyway? The word you wanted but apparently have never seen before is "voilà" It's a French word imported into English. So that's TWO fucking languages now that you have exactly no command over. How's your German? Fucking dumbshit.

> Nah, you've more than covered the stupid
> department. But, by all means, double down on
> that stupidity some more! I have no problem
> humiliating you further. Fucking pussy ass
> butthurt bitch.

Like all hopeless dumbfucks, you've got nothing at all to back that bluster up. You're no more than a mildly amusing punching bag. You don't know what you are talking about AND you don't know how to say even mindless crap you want to spew properly. This is a total calamity. Crash and burn for you here from fucking start to finish. Useless, pointless, clueless fucktard.

LOL! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> from the horse's mouth Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Ass licker, that is a benefits administration
> > letter, not a rule.
>
> Oh dear. The interim rule was set in a BAL also,
> you ignorant asswipe. Not too fucking familiar
> with the process, are you. What a total fucktard.
>
>
> > Sure I do. And OPM made it clear there is no
> > grandfathering.
>
> That has exactly nothing to do with your usual --
> one might say, typical -- semantic stumbling,
> fumbling, and bumbling over the difference between
> "enrollment" and "coverage". But since you
> foolishly bring it up, the only thing that covered
> employees (whoever they are) could not be
> grandfathered into would be their current FEHB
> plans. These so far theoretical people would need
> to acquire coverage through an ACA exchange
> instead of through an FEHB exchange. It could be
> the very same plan from the very same issuer. It
> would only need to be purchased through an ACA
> exchange. Congressional employees who are not
> covered by the amendment will of course simply
> sail into 2014 and beyond with their same old FEHB
> plan coverage intact. Unless of course they
> choose to make an Open Season change, just as
> would be the case in any other year.
>
> > Yes it has.
>
> No, you obliviously ignorant fuckwad, it has not.
> No one yet knows which Congressional employees
> might be covered, in part because members
> themselves will have considerable leeway and
> discretion in identifying any such employees, and
> it has not been ruled out that such discretion
> might end in identifying no one at all who would
> be covered. Just one more thing from all those
> lands lying totally outside your pathetic
> blindered ken.
>
> > Yes it has. Documents have been provided
> > indicating as much.
>
> No, fuckwad. In your fabulous ignorance, you
> misconstrue and misinterpret everything. Not
> everyone does that.
>
> > Looking for a partisan fucktard? Order
> something from here:
> > http://www.simplymirrors.com/ Wait a few days,
> open package, take a look.
> > Wala, there's your partisan fucktard.
>
> Seriously? Wala? How fucked up is that anyway?
> The word you wanted but apparently have never seen
> before is "voilà" It's a French word imported
> into English. So that's TWO fucking languages now
> that you have exactly no command over. How's your
> German? Fucking dumbshit.
>
> > Nah, you've more than covered the stupid
> > department. But, by all means, double down on
> > that stupidity some more! I have no problem
> > humiliating you further. Fucking pussy ass
> > butthurt bitch.
>
> Like all hopeless dumbfucks, you've got nothing at
> all to back that bluster up. You're no more than
> a mildly amusing punching bag. You don't know
> what you are talking about AND you don't know how
> to say even mindless crap you want to spew
> properly. This is a total calamity. Crash and
> burn for you here from fucking start to finish.
> Useless, pointless, clueless fucktard.


You conveniently didn't quote this part, shit for brains:

Q. When will current coverage terminate for Members of Congress and designated Congressional staff?
A. Current FEHB health plan enrollment for Members of Congress and designated congressional staff will terminate at midnight on December 31, 2013. An additional 31 days of coverage is included after the termination date at no cost to the enrollee. Members of Congress and designated congressional staff who chose to purchase health insurance via the appropriate SHOP as determined by the Director may do so with an effective date of January 1, 2014.

Why is that? Oh yeah, it completely refutes the bullshit emanating from your keyboard the past two days.

Fick dich, you cock trolling dipshit.

from the horse's mouth Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Here is the context provided by OPM. So, go suck
> a donkey dick ya lil lyin' butthurt pussy.

Get a fucking grip, asshat, Final in this context is opposed to interim. There is nothing in the final rule (of Sep 30) to preclude that final rule from being modified or superceded by a different final rule -- one resulting either from future OPM action or from future legislation. This particular final rule was issued in the face of a looming government shutdown for the limited purposes stated -- to provide such clarification as there was so far grounds for to that still undetermind set of federal employees who might be covered by the Grassley amendment. End of story. You are so totally out of your fucking league here.

delusional lawmakers Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> And why is the federal budget tied to Obamacare?
> Why isn't it tied to some other law that people
> don't like? Why? ?????? Federal budgets are not
> about proposals and counterproposals on laws that
> have already been passed. This is ludicrous. If
> the Republicans want a new health care law, they
> should propose one and put it through Congress per
> the procedures in place. Of course the Dems don't
> want to negotiate because the whole premise of
> this debacle is just plain wrong and weird.

Sums up that situation pretty well. Republicans have lost on health care in Congress, in the courts, and at the ballot box. So they will simply try to blow stuff up until they get their way. Toddlers learn soon enough that this sort of strategy doesn't work. Being less well developed than toddlers, Republicans do not. They just keep doing the same stupid thing over and over and over again.

Fagface is playing in the sandbox while others are living in reality. You've gotta just warm a bottle for him and hope he goes to sleep shortly thereafter.

from the horse's mouth Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> You conveniently didn't quote this part, shit for
> brains: Why is that? Oh yeah, it completely refutes
> the bullshit emanating from your keyboard the past two
> days.

The matter is fucking irrelevant, you stupid asswipe. Health benefits coverage ends for all federal employees at the end of each year, but it's usually at the end of the plan year. For the as yet indeterminate set of employees who might be affected by the Grassley amendment, it will be the end of the calendar year instead. So fucking dumb.

> Fick dich, you cock trolling dipshit.

So no German then either. What a surprise. Es gibt Menschen die zu blöd zum scheissen sind. Hier haben wir solch ein gutes Beispiel.

Well... Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Fagface is playing in the sandbox while others are
> living in reality. You've gotta just warm a
> bottle for him and hope he goes to sleep shortly
> thereafter.

Nobody ever said ignorant asswipes and dumbfucks were not a part of reality. Unfortunately, they themselves are barely aware of any of it.

Belle Haven marina on the GW parkway has barricades up.. Why?? It was not closed in other shut downs, Its a concession and they take care of the place including the trash.., The Belle Haven park has barricades but thats a pure park that relies on the Park Service to get dump the trash.

LOL! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> FucktardIsU Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Making disingenuous arguments which attempt to
> > obscure the actual matter and omit little
> details
> > of things such as magnitude - a characteristic
> of
> > failing fucktards like you.
>
> What?
>
> > To try to argue that taxpayer funds are not the
> > source from which Congress and staff and any
> > subsidies to their benefits and/or
> contributions
> > by them are paid, which was the point, on the
> > basis that the latter also are taxpayers is
> > idiotic.
>
> How so? You pay taxes and some of those go to pay
> the wages and benefits of public sector workers.
> Public sector workers pay taxes and some of those
> go to pay the wages and benefits of public sector
> workers. Lots of different people, just one boat.


Still digging huh? lol

Yeah, lots. 100 million plus other taxpayers who pay to keep the boat afloat beyond any trivial contribution made by Congress from their own (also taxpayer-funded) salaries. Seriously... you're a pompous blowhard asshole but you're not that fucking stupid.


>
> > To further try to equate nonvoluntary taxpayers
>
> > voluntary consumers is just digging your stupid
>
> > hole deeper.
>
> Really? Try loading up a cart full of groceries
> and then walking out the front door with it. Send
> us a letter from jail about how "voluntary" the
> whole paying for it thing turned out to be.
> Fucking asshats everywhere.


I'm not required by law to go shopping at a given store, or for any given product, or at all for that matter. We are required by law to pay taxes. Which is what pays for the Congress and staff.


>
> > You made a lame-ass argument. Live with it.
> Bitch.
>
> Not nearly all of the things that go sailing right
> over your timy little pea-brained head are
> lame-ass. Most of the slop and drool that comes
> out of your fucking mouth is, though.


Dig away limp dick. You have to since you can't accept your pitiful fail. lol

If you don't think Obama is directly responsible for this thug behavior imposed on all Americans then you have your head up your ass. If you pull your head out of your ass and still think it's still not his fault then you have to agree that he is a leaderless pussy for allowing it to happen.

For someone who was somewhat happy to see him elected in 2008, I really can't describe how much I resent him and how he hates America. He is a complete liar and has no appreciation for America. He has no virtue or character, he is poison. I can't wait for him to leave so we can start rebuilding America. He doesn't represent Democrats or Republicans, he represents an existence that only exists in minds of warped people like him and Soros.

May God protect us and America during these times.

Yes everything is Obama's fault. Newt you crack me up. Why not vote on a CR to fund the government - it would pass and all this would be over. Instead Obama gets blamed because the GOP wont bring up a vote in the House where they hold a majority. Go figure...

Obama is a classic narcissist--has everyone conned, including himself, into believing that he is a world-class leader, thinker, and visionary. He has displayed nothing but cynicism, ineptness, and self-serving decisions since the day he arrived in DC. He has everyone covering for his NUMEROUS shortcomings because so many liberals scream "RACIST!" if you don't immediately agree with their agenda.

WAKE UP, people. The United States is being destroyed from within, and the ones doing the most damage are the ones with the name "Democrat" or the letter "D" after their names. Pelosi and Reid are classic examples of why we need term limits for Congress.

Do you think LOL! ever does in a fun way?