Ok so i have rented some time my place is not too bad on us for working on our cars in the parking lot..provided.. we keep it clean , no prolonged repairs, no cars left on jack stands, simple quick repairs. Putting on some front brake pads or rear, no oil or grease left on the pavement. I am thinking about buying a condo in Annandale and have 20% down , but I have heard of these HOA associations, what gives.. can they really fine you, are you allowed to do these simple things.change the oil? What can they do to you if your "caught".

It's all up the to the bylaws of the condo association to which you move in.. no way to know this without having their specifics.

So some allow it

Are you a nigger or a spic?

What does that have to do with It?? The question is can you work on your car in the parking lot in condos. Every one works on their cars to save money.

I suggest you read the by laws of the HOA. Some can be very strict and yes they can make your life miserable if you violate the rules.

Working on cars can be an issue because some people will take advantage of the situation and next thing you know you got a junk yard or a weekend auto repair shop going on.

My HOA says no car maintenance whatsoever but I still work on my stuff and no one has complained yet.

No car maintenance is what I need to look out for.. I think they all say that.
I know what you mean when people get outa hand, a fellow in the Apt was out of work, he was a mechanic and he took on a job replacing a cylinder head, yes he made a mess, no I did not snitch on him, he was down on his luck, however he did do way too many jobs messy and they threw him out but he was a renter not a owner in a condo. Im looking at replacing brakes, mufflers, rotating tires , tune ups, oil changes that kind of thing althouht I have replaced several clutches, fuel pump and even a engine in the apt working slow taking my time not making a mess. The head maintence man knows what I do but he is cool with my work and the manager has no clue.Its my own work on my car not for anyone else.

Condo Buyer Wrote:
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> No car maintenance is what I need to look out
> for.. I think they all say that.
> I know what you mean when people get outa hand, a
> fellow in the Apt was out of work, he was a
> mechanic and he took on a job replacing a cylinder
> head, yes he made a mess, no I did not snitch on
> him, he was down on his luck, however he did do
> way too many jobs messy and they threw him out but
> he was a renter not a owner in a condo. Im looking
> at replacing brakes, mufflers, rotating tires ,
> tune ups, oil changes that kind of thing althouht
> I have replaced several clutches, fuel pump and
> even a engine in the apt working slow taking my
> time not making a mess. The head maintence man
> knows what I do but he is cool with my work and
> the manager has no clue.Its my own work on my car
> not for anyone else.


Are you so poor that you cannot afford to pay some shop to repair your car? Maybe you should spend more time getting an education so you can get a decent income. If you do anything other than check oil and air pressure at my condo complex we will strike down upon you with great vengeance. Try to do a brake job and you will be looking at multiple lawsuits as well as a lien on your condo. We have cameras everywhere and we are watching.

Condo HOA officer Wrote:
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> Are you so poor that you cannot afford to pay some
> shop to repair your car? Maybe you should spend
> more time getting an education so you can get a
> decent income. If you do anything other than check
> oil and air pressure at my condo complex we will
> strike down upon you with great vengeance. Try to
> do a brake job and you will be looking at multiple
> lawsuits as well as a lien on your condo. We have
> cameras everywhere and we are watching.

I do it for the convenience, the peace of mind that some minimum wage shithead isn't going to screw something up, and to avoid the dirtbags trying to sell unnecessary work.

As someone who can do none of those things, I wish the OP would move into my neighborhood. Always good to have a friend who can help in a pinch. As to HOAs, each will be different. We have a guy who does his own minor work, but he is always finished within a few hours, so there is minimal mess. The real problem comes when you want to do something major, something that makes a lot of noise, or something that disrupts the parking lot for those around you. Once a neighbor complains, forget it, you will be watched.

OP, read the CC&Rs before buying. If you don't like the rules, then don't buy there. By signing that you have read and agree to them, you're bound to abide by them. An HOA/Condo Board is within their rights to enforce these rules for the benefit of all owners, as few want a car repair operation taking place on the grounds. Checking tire pressure, swapping wipers, etc is one thing. Brake jobs, transmission work, is quite another. Plus there's the noise and mess that some jobs make. You can be fined heavily in some cases, and deservedly so.

I'm on our HOA Board and we've come down hard on cases like this. In fact, I'm having a car towed today for being inoperative and stored in a driveway for several weeks now.

"Putting on some front brake pads or rear, no oil or grease left on the pavement."

dont you have to bleed the lines when replacing the pads, just asking?

GET OFF YOUR LAWN!
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HOA nazi Wrote:
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> GET OFF YOUR LAWN!

Again, if you don't like the rules don't buy there. Or get involved and change them if you can convince the majority of homeowners that regularly having car repair activities with the associated noise and mess will positively affect their enjoyment of the neighborhood and drive up property values.

Of course, some people like living in a trashy neighborhood and there are plenty of places like that for them to enjoy. Find one.

What's Nazi about that?

Pad replacement doesn't require line bleeding.

Condo Buyer Wrote:
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> What does that have to do with It?? The question
> is can you work on your car in the parking lot in
> condos. Every one works on their cars to save
> money.


Sounds like spic.

Sounds about what I expected. Any one have any direct experience with Annandale condos along Americana Drive or 236 , Heritage Woods, Tall Tree, Little River Square. I think all those places have more condo renters then owners so maybe there easier going.

First, have you considered buying in a neighborhood that doesn't have a mandatory HOA? Some older neighborhoods are still affordable, plus you may be able to find a place with a driveway or even a carport/garage to work in.

Second, if buying stay away from areas where there is an unusually high number of rentals, unless the area tends upper income.

Third, some places have rules prohibiting auto work only to prevent the kind of major projects or shadetree mechanic operations that have been mentioned above. When it comes to minor repairs, they are willing to look the other way. There is always the risk things may change if the anti-car maintenance Nazi gets on the board, but if that happens you can deal with it then.

Fourth, unless you are truly a car maintenance nut the ability to do minor maintenance on your car shouldn't be in the top three criteria for selecting a place to buy.

Finally ignore the anti-car maintenance trolls. They don't get how someone could get a sense of satisfaction or security by doing it themselves rather than paying someone else to do it...or they assume that a willingness to do manual labor somehow makes you inferior.

Bernard F Wrote:
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> "Putting on some front brake pads or rear, no oil
> or grease left on the pavement."
>
> dont you have to bleed the lines when replacing
> the pads, just asking?


Like another said before....

Brake pad replacement doesn't require bleeding.

If you do end up bleeding the brakes, the right way to do it involves a small length of hose and a bottle. There's no mess that way.

May I live my whole life without being in an HOA. May all HOAs go their entire existence without me joining them. We're all better off. Amen.

Every one that I've known has not allowed the work. One banned it long ago and all others copied it as a base. Many don't enforce it unless there's a nosy control freak neighbor involved that was likely unaffected by it. They must have the rule. We all know it would only be a matter of time before some moron does something inconsiderate and stupid that will cause the rule to be added at the next meeting.

Look at every rule in an HOA's CC&Rs. Many should be common sense and common courtesy. They are necessary because we cannot rely on common sense or common courtesy. It is a sad reality.

Go through the prohibited items rules on eBay and CraigsList. Imagine how the non-obvious ones were inspired. What if I really was stuck in Nigeria and needed someone to send me money via Western Union. I'd be screwed. Thank you my nigerians.

BurgerMeister Wrote:
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> OP, read the CC&Rs before buying. If you don't
> like the rules, then don't buy there. By signing
> that you have read and agree to them, you're bound
> to abide by them. An HOA/Condo Board is within
> their rights to enforce these rules for the
> benefit of all owners, as few want a car repair
> operation taking place on the grounds. Checking
> tire pressure, swapping wipers, etc is one thing.
> Brake jobs, transmission work, is quite another.
> Plus there's the noise and mess that some jobs
> make. You can be fined heavily in some cases, and
> deservedly so.
>
> I'm on our HOA Board and we've come down hard on
> cases like this. In fact, I'm having a car towed
> today for being inoperative and stored in a
> driveway for several weeks now.



Yeah, but what if you can live with the rules, buy, and 5 years later the HOA board becomes taken over by the typical dickheads who love wielding power over their neighbors because their own life and career suck shit and implement a bunch of new rules/interpretations that are unreasonable. Then you're stuck. It happens.

BurgerMeister Wrote:
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> I'm on our HOA Board and we've come down hard on
> cases like this. In fact, I'm having a car towed
> today for being inoperative and stored in a
> driveway for several weeks now.


You're an asshole. You probably are some middle manager at work who get shit on all day, so you come home, "get involved" and are a complete asshole to everyone who doesn't have your worldview for the neighborhood. Maybe the dude is down on his luck and can't get it repaired. Maybe it's a part that's hard to get or hard to install and it's taking longer than expected. If that tow truck came on MY property, to get MY car, there would be some problems. You and the board are probably too chickenshit to stand there with the truck when it's towed and back up your hardass stance.

"Finally ignore the anti-car maintenance trolls. They don't get how someone could get a sense of satisfaction or security by doing it themselves rather than paying someone else to do it...or they assume that a willingness to do manual labor somehow makes you inferior."

I get how someone could get a sense of satisfaction doing car work themselves - I just don't care. I don't get a sense of satisfaction listening to this shit.

And no, I don't assume that manual labor makes someone inferior. I admire people who can do things with their hands. Done a lot of it myself.

We have a HOA but it doesn't enforce ANYTHING. It's a nice neighborhood, but we have junk cars sitting in driveways for years, people working on their cars at all hours and gunning the engines, multiple boats on the grass, trash in the yards, and on and on. I'll take an aggressive HOA any day.

BurgerMeister is a dick Wrote:
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> BurgerMeister Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > I'm on our HOA Board and we've come down hard
> on
> > cases like this. In fact, I'm having a car
> towed
> > today for being inoperative and stored in a
> > driveway for several weeks now.


^^^ Typical Northern Virginian Cock Sucker.

The first reply completely covered everything. STFU already.

NIMBY Wrote:
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> We have a HOA but it doesn't enforce ANYTHING.
> It's a nice neighborhood, but we have junk cars
> sitting in driveways for years, people working on
> their cars at all hours and gunning the engines,
> multiple boats on the grass, trash in the yards,
> and on and on. I'll take an aggressive HOA any
> day.

Same here. I didnt buy a house to live next to an auto repair business or marina. Its one thing to change a head lamp bulb, quite another to be changing oil or replacing brakes.
I put up with an HOA that corrects violations and dont mind a bit. The rules are there when you move in, dont like them dont move there, simple.

HOA's need to be agressive now in this area. There are so many illegal dick heads who think they are still in Panama or El Salvador that if you didnt have HOA rules this fuckers would be slaughtering animals in their driveway and adding plywood and galvanized metal guest rooms to their houses.

Barney Miller Wrote:
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> NIMBY Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > We have a HOA but it doesn't enforce ANYTHING.
> > It's a nice neighborhood, but we have junk cars
> > sitting in driveways for years, people working
> on
> > their cars at all hours and gunning the
> engines,
> > multiple boats on the grass, trash in the
> yards,
> > and on and on. I'll take an aggressive HOA any
> > day.
>
> Same here. I didnt buy a house to live next to an
> auto repair business or marina. Its one thing to
> change a head lamp bulb, quite another to be
> changing oil or replacing brakes.
> I put up with an HOA that corrects violations and
> dont mind a bit. The rules are there when you move
> in, dont like them dont move there, simple.

Nothing wrong with maintaining a car. But you boys wouldn't know about such things because you chose to live in a protected compund. Now don't go getting your panties in a bunch. You know in certain countries you could sell your testicles since you not using them. They are considered a delicacy.
I bet you don't even prune your flowers much less mow the lawn.

Barney Miller Wrote:
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> Same here. I didnt buy a house to live next to an
> auto repair business or marina. Its one thing to
> change a head lamp bulb, quite another to be
> changing oil or replacing brakes.
> I put up with an HOA that corrects violations and
> dont mind a bit. The rules are there when you move
> in, dont like them dont move there, simple.


How's your wife and my kids?

Ron Jeremey Wrote:
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> Barney Miller Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > Same here. I didnt buy a house to live next to
> an
> > auto repair business or marina. Its one thing
> to
> > change a head lamp bulb, quite another to be
> > changing oil or replacing brakes.
> > I put up with an HOA that corrects violations
> and
> > dont mind a bit. The rules are there when you
> move
> > in, dont like them dont move there, simple.
>
>
> How's your wife and my kids?


Not bad, we used your child support check to go on vacation this year. Mucho gracias

I dont understand. You move into an HOA and expect there to be no rules or at the least you expect the rules do not apply to you. You can get an oil change for less than thirty bucks. Stop being a bad neighbor and have it done at a garage. No one wants to see you letting the old oil drain down the driveway and into a sewer.

Ringer Wrote:
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> I dont understand. You move into an HOA and expect
> there to be no rules or at the least you expect
> the rules do not apply to you. You can get an oil
> change for less than thirty bucks. Stop being a
> bad neighbor and have it done at a garage. No one
> wants to see you letting the old oil drain down
> the driveway and into a sewer.

Actually I was planning on throwing oil on your plants. I think climate change is a farce and the oil came from the earth,right? Just returning it.
Have a nice Summer.

BurgerMeister is a dick Wrote:
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> Maybe the dude is
> down on his luck and can't get it repaired. Maybe
> it's a part that's hard to get or hard to install
> and it's taking longer than expected. If that tow
> truck came on MY property, to get MY car, there
> would be some problems. You and the board are
> probably too chickenshit to stand there with the
> truck when it's towed and back up your hardass
> stance.

I am so fucking so and tired of the "down on his luck
scenario. You had enough to buy a house here - then live
up to your obligations - pay your dues and keep your
house looking presentable. Or move out. Your problem
is not my problem and it won't become mine. And your fucking
POS car will disappear in the middle of the night, thanks
to a paper that I will gladly sign. I've stood by while
junk cars were pulled off of front lawns with no problem.
My neighbors appreciate someone actually enforcing rules
when assholes like you move in and try to turn the neighborhood
into El Salvador North.

If someone is having trouble, then approach the HOA like you
would any other creditor. You'll probably get a break. Keep
breaking rules and you'll end up on the dirty end of a very
shitty stick. We don't want boarding houses, car repairs/sales,
junkyards, in our neighborhoods. There are plenty of trailer
parks where you could be very happy.

Barney Miller Wrote:
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> NIMBY Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > We have a HOA but it doesn't enforce ANYTHING.
> > It's a nice neighborhood, but we have junk cars
> > sitting in driveways for years, people working
> on
> > their cars at all hours and gunning the
> engines,
> > multiple boats on the grass, trash in the
> yards,
> > and on and on. I'll take an aggressive HOA any
> > day.
>
> Same here. I didnt buy a house to live next to an
> auto repair business or marina. Its one thing to
> change a head lamp bulb, quite another to be
> changing oil or replacing brakes.
> I put up with an HOA that corrects violations and
> dont mind a bit. The rules are there when you move
> in, dont like them dont move there, simple.

The British once had rules to govern us. What real man would want to live under such silly tyranny as to have the same doors and mailboxes? Most fools suffer the fools life without realization.
My neighborhood has character like the friends who made the houses homes. No one dicktates when we fly the American flag or what day of the month to mow the lawn.

And no one is forcing you to live within an HOA. I cant wait until your home, which has character, has someone open a garage or house three families in one home. Then listen to you cry foul.

the other side Wrote:
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> And no one is forcing you to live within an HOA. I
> cant wait until your home, which has character,
> has someone open a garage or house three families
> in one home. Then listen to you cry foul.

This post indicates someone is hiding behind guarded gates. Gates work both ways.
Philosophically.

Rules were made to be broken Wrote:
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> No one dicktates when we
> fly the American flag or what day of the month to
> mow the lawn.

We don't give a damn when you mow your lawn as long
as it's regular enough to keep it decent looking.
And some weed killer and water when needed. It's not
hard to do.

Everyone wants to live in a nice neighborhood but not
everyone wants to be a good neighbor.

Rules were made to be broken Wrote:
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and assholes are destined to end up in jail so break all the rules you want!

Director Wrote:
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> Rules were made to be broken Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > No one dicktates when we
> > fly the American flag or what day of the month
> to
> > mow the lawn.
>
> We don't give a damn when you mow your lawn as
> long
> as it's regular enough to keep it decent looking.
> And some weed killer and water when needed. It's
> not
> hard to do.
>
> Everyone wants to live in a nice neighborhood but
> not
> everyone wants to be a good neighbor.

Only an asshole would refer to himself as "director". Water and weed killer doesn't make good neighbors.

Weeds are green Wrote:
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> Only an asshole would refer to himself as
> "director". Water and weed killer doesn't make
> good neighbors.

So substitute "Board Member". Geez you children
have difficulty comprehending simple English!

I wish my neighbor would use some weed killer.
His lawn looks like a damn dandelion farm.

all of you soft mother fuckers with your HOA.. Did you ever really get to enjoy life? of do you just fuck with the lights off in missionary position only once a month?
Northern Virginia faggots!

Director Wrote:
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> BurgerMeister is a dick Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Maybe the dude is
> > down on his luck and can't get it repaired.
> Maybe
> > it's a part that's hard to get or hard to
> install
> > and it's taking longer than expected. If that
> tow
> > truck came on MY property, to get MY car, there
> > would be some problems. You and the board are
> > probably too chickenshit to stand there with
> the
> > truck when it's towed and back up your hardass
> > stance.
>
> I am so fucking so and tired of the "down on his
> luck
> scenario. You had enough to buy a house here -
> then live
> up to your obligations - pay your dues and keep
> your
> house looking presentable. Or move out. Your
> problem
> is not my problem and it won't become mine. And
> your fucking
> POS car will disappear in the middle of the night,
> thanks
> to a paper that I will gladly sign. I've stood by
> while
> junk cars were pulled off of front lawns with no
> problem.
> My neighbors appreciate someone actually enforcing
> rules
> when assholes like you move in and try to turn the
> neighborhood
> into El Salvador North.
>
> If someone is having trouble, then approach the
> HOA like you
> would any other creditor. You'll probably get a
> break. Keep
> breaking rules and you'll end up on the dirty end
> of a very
> shitty stick. We don't want boarding houses, car
> repairs/sales,
> junkyards, in our neighborhoods. There are plenty
> of trailer
> parks where you could be very happy.


You're an arrogant fuckstick aren't you? Ever thought the guy may have lost his job and is barely getting by? I'll bet you'd demand that a homeowner wait and get "approval" on a roof replacement after a hurricane, all while the damaged roof is leaking just so you can wield your little bit of power and show who's the boss. I can tell that if that you and your HOA have the my way or the highway attitude and it's useless to try and reason with you.

What-Ever! Wrote:
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> Weeds are green Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Only an asshole would refer to himself as
> > "director". Water and weed killer doesn't make
> > good neighbors.
>
> So substitute "Board Member". Geez you children
> have difficulty comprehending simple English!
>
> I wish my neighbor would use some weed killer.
> His lawn looks like a damn dandelion farm.

When life deals you dandelions, make wine.
Your mangina is showing.

I have done brake jobs, tune ups, and oil changes in my parking spot without a word from the HOA (I can swap out some pads in an hour, tops)....and I see my neighbors doing it too from time to time- doesn't bother me as long as they are not making any loud noise after 10pm or before 7am or blocking my parking spot!!!!

--- then again they tried to fine me for my grass not being cut the week I was out of town and it had rained for 4 days straight.....and yes this is SEQUOIAH we are talking about!!! With the letter "you have 5 days to make a written response"...letter dated the 20th that I didn't recieve until the 27th (AFTER I got back)...so luckily I was able to cut my grass the day I got it or I would have been fined.....too bad they didn't send the same letter to the house 4 houses down from me they NEVER cut their grass and I have YET to see them punished at ALL!!

Oh wait, its because I'm an owner and they are just renters....and they know I will pay up right away but renters dont give a damn....oh well.

How much of a fine do they give you, is this legal to fine people?

Lawsuits?? does there not have to be damage to the property? If theres no mess no cars left unattended on a jack stand which is stupid because a kid could get killed playing around that,

Wheres the damage for a lawsuit claim a and a lien? If theres no mess left?

Condo HOA officer Wrote:
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> Condo Buyer Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > No car maintenance is what I need to look out
> > for.. I think they all say that.
> > I know what you mean when people get outa hand,
> a
> > fellow in the Apt was out of work, he was a
> > mechanic and he took on a job replacing a
> cylinder
> > head, yes he made a mess, no I did not snitch
> on
> > him, he was down on his luck, however he did do
> > way too many jobs messy and they threw him out
> but
> > he was a renter not a owner in a condo. Im
> looking
> > at replacing brakes, mufflers, rotating tires ,
> > tune ups, oil changes that kind of thing
> althouht
> > I have replaced several clutches, fuel pump and
> > even a engine in the apt working slow taking my
> > time not making a mess. The head maintence man
> > knows what I do but he is cool with my work and
> > the manager has no clue.Its my own work on my
> car
> > not for anyone else.
>
>
> Are you so poor that you cannot afford to pay some
> shop to repair your car? Maybe you should spend
> more time getting an education so you can get a
> decent income. If you do anything other than check
> oil and air pressure at my condo complex we will
> strike down upon you with great vengeance. Try to
> do a brake job and you will be looking at multiple
> lawsuits as well as a lien on your condo. We have
> cameras everywhere and we are watching.

Are you too stupid to do minor repairs on your own vehicle?

Condo Buyer Wrote:
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> How much of a fine do they give you, is this legal
> to fine people?
>
> Lawsuits?? does there not have to be damage to the
> property? If theres no mess no cars left
> unattended on a jack stand which is stupid because
> a kid could get killed playing around that,
>
> Wheres the damage for a lawsuit claim a and a
> lien? If theres no mess left?

Stop asking stupid fucking questions. Go read the bylaws. If you dont like the rules, then move on. Quit being a jackass.

HOA in this area means no mechanical work to be done on the property, in view. It may be legit inside your garage, but in some really uptight places even that's a gray area.

The rule may not be enforced, but this depends on the area, and your ability to manage your neighbors. You can be certain the rule is on the books though.

The more blue collar the neighborhood is, the fewer conflicts you have with an HOA, for this sort of problem. The rule lies dormant until there's flagrant abuse.

To those suggesting moving to a neighborhood without an HOA, there are precious few in the area. Apartments/condos/townhouses = HOA. Even standalone houses are usually HOA. As for trailer parks, there's one in Chantilly - that's it. Construction quality is on par with mainstream builders in the area (i.e., shit, but less of it). It isn't inexpensive, and there aren't alternatives within reasonable driving distance.

There are single family home neighborhoods all over Northern Virginia that don't have HOAs. All over. And often cost less to buy in than townhouse communities. I lived in one, Greenbriar, for 7 years. My neighbor did every repair imaginable to his cars in the street. I did a timing belt replacement in my driveway. I liked not having a HOA over my head but eventually the general appearance of the neighborhood wore on me and I boughtbin a neighborhood with an HOA.

We don't have any by-laws that say no mechanical work on your property. Can't have an inoperable vehicle in the driveway (garage okay; in fact, the garage is considered interior of dwelling, and by-laws address nothing about the interior) but repairs are no problem. I've changed oil, rotated tires several times in my driveway. I can afford to pay someone but I LIKE doing it myself. All you haters can suck it.

some guy Wrote:
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> HOA in this area means no mechanical work to be
> done on the property, in view. It may be legit
> inside your garage, but in some really uptight
> places even that's a gray area.
>
> The rule may not be enforced, but this depends on
> the area, and your ability to manage your
> neighbors. You can be certain the rule is on the
> books though.
>
> The more blue collar the neighborhood is, the
> fewer conflicts you have with an HOA, for this
> sort of problem. The rule lies dormant until
> there's flagrant abuse.
>
> To those suggesting moving to a neighborhood
> without an HOA, there are precious few in the
> area. Apartments/condos/townhouses = HOA. Even
> standalone houses are usually HOA. As for trailer
> parks, there's one in Chantilly - that's it.
> Construction quality is on par with mainstream
> builders in the area (i.e., shit, but less of it).
> It isn't inexpensive, and there aren't
> alternatives within reasonable driving distance.

I love HOA's and HOA threads. I lived in a condo back in the 90's in Alexandria. There's nothing I can't fix on my own except body work. The third month after I moved in, I had the hood up adding washer fluid and I get yelled at. That's fine...That's the rule...I'm down.

I go to the next board meeting...and the final item on the docket is about a resident who has a dog that's been barking too loud. The earliest complaints go back for...A YEAR! That night's item was to decide if the board should consult with their attorney...I sold and moved out 6 months later. I have a longer commute now but I live in an area where there is no HOA because when a tree falls down, all we do is decide who brings the chainsaw and who brings the beer.

Bottom line...HOA rules are really just written guidelines in formal quasi-threatening language. They're unenforceable short of legal action and nobody wants HOA fees used to pay a lawyer...Well, I take that back...there was that community recently that bankrupted themselves over an election sign.

Stabitha Wrote:
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> Condo Buyer Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > How much of a fine do they give you, is this
> legal
> > to fine people?
> >
> > Lawsuits?? does there not have to be damage to
> the
> > property? If theres no mess no cars left
> > unattended on a jack stand which is stupid
> because
> > a kid could get killed playing around that,
> >
> > Wheres the damage for a lawsuit claim a and a
> > lien? If theres no mess left?
>
> Stop asking stupid fucking questions. Go read the
> bylaws. If you dont like the rules, then move on.
> Quit being a jackass.

I'm not the loser who posts 24/7. You must be a real scared little wimp.