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Actually, I have no idea what precipitated you starting a thread about the aforementioned Mr. Bruhns, but the general rule is that starting a thread about a non-celebrity unknown individual who posts on Fairfax Underground is the sign of being a massive douchebag tool.

Are you a petty lil bitch in real life, or only when you get butthurt on the interwebz?

let's see here Wrote:
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> Actually, I have no idea what precipitated you
> starting a thread about the aforementioned Mr.
> Bruhns, but the general rule is that starting a
> thread about a non-celebrity unknown individual
> who posts on Fairfax Underground is the sign of
> being a massive douchebag tool.
>
> Are you a petty lil bitch in real life, or only
> when you get butthurt on the interwebz?

You dont know bob? He puts himself out there quite a bit, pontificating on the cost of construction projects despite any professional knowledge of cost estimating.

You know thats actually illegal to affirm yourself as being capable of professional engineering without being a licensed P.E.?

I wish DPOR would look into Bobby Bruhns



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Tysons Engineer Wrote:
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> let's see here Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Actually, I have no idea what precipitated you
> > starting a thread about the aforementioned Mr.
> > Bruhns, but the general rule is that starting a
> > thread about a non-celebrity unknown individual
> > who posts on Fairfax Underground is the sign of
> > being a massive douchebag tool.
> >
> > Are you a petty lil bitch in real life, or only
> > when you get butthurt on the interwebz?
>
> You dont know bob? He puts himself out there quite
> a bit, pontificating on the cost of construction
> projects despite any professional knowledge of
> cost estimating.
>
> You know thats actually illegal to affirm yourself
> as being capable of professional engineering
> without being a licensed P.E.?
>
> I wish DPOR would look into Bobby Bruhns


Nope. Never heard of Bob. Apparently he is a celebrity in your own mind. Nothing you just wrote, however, lets you escape the title of massive douchebag tool.

If you would like DPOR to look into the gentleman, have you actually attempted to contact them or do you just whine about it here?

If you believe he is committing criminal acts, I assume you have contact the Commonwealth Attorney or other appropriate state agency. Right?

Not that I really care, but you seem to be dying to tell the story, so what did Mr. Bruhns do to you to make you such a butthurt lil bitch?

Tysons Engineer as you know has his own blog and has been pushing his own agenda for some time now. He clearly doesn't have the public's best interest at heart often times coming to the defense of crooked or poorly planned/maintained projects. Makes you wonder why he tries so hard to discredit me, when I actually have the numbers from county and state level to fall back on.

Bob Bruhns Wrote:
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> Tysons Engineer as you know has his own blog and
> has been pushing his own agenda for some time now.
> He clearly doesn't have the public's best interest
> at heart often times coming to the defense of
> crooked or poorly planned/maintained projects.
> Makes you wonder why he tries so hard to discredit
> me, when I actually have the numbers from county
> and state level to fall back on.


Still waiting on those numbers about how the construction schedule of the silver line are going to be delayed 10 weeks.

Bob handed the engineer's ass to him on this thread. Actually posted the numbers, costs, everything including links to the congressional hearings, investigations, etc. into the costs on the Silver Line project. DAMMMMMMMN!

Silver Line opening delayed until January
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/2/1218980.html

Hahahahaha, he posted "numbers" about Phase 2 cost... on a thread about Phase 1 schedule. Yea he totally owned me

Links to congressional hearings.

He has a copy paste that he does whenever he sees a story on the silver line that is the same garbage he posts over and over about how the project is not the same price per mile as the blue line. He has no experience working as an engineer.



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Tysons Engineer Wrote:
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> Hahahahaha, he posted "numbers" about Phase 2
> cost... on a thread about Phase 1 schedule. Yea he
> totally owned me
>
> Links to congressional hearings.
>
> He has a copy paste that he does whenever he sees
> a story on the silver line that is the same
> garbage he posts over and over about how the
> project is not the same price per mile as the blue
> line. He has no experience working as an engineer.

Hhahahhaha and the investigation into the numbers on the Phase I project. What a lying bitch tool you are! What did you ever engineer? You're own treehouse? HHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

WHAT NUMBERS

You tool. There are no numbers. The discussion is about the construction schedule. And he refuses to answer the question about WHAT the sensor equipment testing will do as an impact to the schedule you massive tool.

Lies lies, and more lies from Bob and Howard and whoever this little troll is. I wonder if Tax pig is behind this

Re: Silver Line opening delayed until January
Posted by: Tysons Engineer ()
Date: June 17, 2013 04:33PM

Bob?

Hello bob?

This is super simple stuff Bob

Forget about Phase 2, I couldnt care less if Phase 2 happens or what it costs at this point because we are discussing Phase 1.

You said you have an inside source that says the project will be delayed to mid february

So tell me, who is the source, or tell me what justification they gave to why it would be delayed so long?

Tysons Engineer Wrote:
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> WHAT NUMBERS
>
> You tool. There are no numbers. The discussion is
> about the construction schedule. And he refuses to
> answer the question about WHAT the sensor
> equipment testing will do as an impact to the
> schedule you massive tool.

Are you hot?

Tysons Engineer Wrote:
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> WHAT NUMBERS
>
> You tool. There are no numbers. The discussion is
> about the construction schedule. And he refuses to
> answer the question about WHAT the sensor
> equipment testing will do as an impact to the
> schedule you massive tool.


So, let me see if I have this correct. You were getting really butthurt on a thread about the silver line. Not content to just get butthurt on that thread, you started another thread to get butthurt and demonstrate what a sissy lil bitch you are? Is that about right?

That thread was about the silver line, this one is about Bob Bruhns being a flatulent old fuck

Whats hard to understand about that?

does this sum it up? Wrote:
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> Tysons Engineer Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > WHAT NUMBERS
> >
> > You tool. There are no numbers. The discussion
> is
> > about the construction schedule. And he refuses
> to
> > answer the question about WHAT the sensor
> > equipment testing will do as an impact to the
> > schedule you massive tool.
>
>
> So, let me see if I have this correct. You were
> getting really butthurt on a thread about the
> silver line. Not content to just get butthurt on
> that thread, you started another thread to get
> butthurt and demonstrate what a sissy lil bitch
> you are? Is that about right?

That's pretty common with engineers who can't engineer anything. :)

math_boy Wrote:
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> does this sum it up? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Tysons Engineer Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > WHAT NUMBERS
> > >
> > > You tool. There are no numbers. The
> discussion
> > is
> > > about the construction schedule. And he
> refuses
> > to
> > > answer the question about WHAT the sensor
> > > equipment testing will do as an impact to the
> > > schedule you massive tool.
> >
> >
> > So, let me see if I have this correct. You
> were
> > getting really butthurt on a thread about the
> > silver line. Not content to just get butthurt
> on
> > that thread, you started another thread to get
> > butthurt and demonstrate what a sissy lil bitch
> > you are? Is that about right?
>
> That's pretty common with engineers who can't
> engineer anything. :)


What happened to Howard anyways? He never did answer any technical questions, using his knowledge of construction that he says he has *aka day laborer at 7-11* about how the testing of the sensor equipment would affect the schedule of the project 10 weeks (a massive amount of time in construction terms when you are nearing the punchout) considering it isnt on the critical path.

Howard are you ok? Did you have a construction accident and are unable to answer any questions?

You drop massive attacks like there is going to be a 10 week delay, then disappear without any proof such as the length of time necessary to retest, the amount of time that would be needed to replace the sensors, if there is any leadtime needed for the sensor equipment to be delivered. Whether there is an issue in picking up this testing in the float for the project.

Hello?

Playing the Bob Bruhns copy paste game



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does this sum it up? Wrote:
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> So, let me see if I have this correct. You were
> getting really butthurt on a thread about the
> silver line. Not content to just get butthurt on
> that thread, you started another thread to get
> butthurt and demonstrate what a sissy lil bitch
> you are? Is that about right?

I have no idea who is technically correct in this imbroglio, but this has degenerated into a 'quien es mas macho' pissing contest. TE - if you want people to take you seriously, don't out people and don't act like a jerk. Personally, I enjoy your input, as long as you keep it civil.

Now Boys... Wrote:
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> I have no idea who is technically correct in this
> imbroglio, but this has degenerated into a 'quien
> es mas macho' pissing contest. TE - if you want
> people to take you seriously, don't out people and
> don't act like a jerk. Personally, I enjoy your
> input, as long as you keep it civil.


Yea this was kind of a dick move, but the truth is Bob has been going around the internet pretending to be involved on this project, telling people he has inside knowledge, when instead he almost never attends public meetings other than his tirades about the phase 2 when it was being approved.

He has no technical knowledge on construction, where the project is, he probably has never even seen the construction work in Tysons or Wiehle.

A lie takes 1000 times as much work to disprove. Everytime he lies like he does, obfuscates like he does, he does a disservice to the public.

I am fine with killing this thread.

Also I didnt out Bob, he outs himself, he posts along side of his photo all over the internet



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Tysons Engineer Wrote:
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> Also I didnt out Bob, he outs himself, he posts
> along side of his photo all over the internet


When it comes to credibility, I am more inclined to believe the guy that puts his words where his face and name are, not some doofus that hides behind anonymity and gets off on personal attacks.

- Stalked by troll -



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Tysons Engineer Wrote:
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> Yea I'm smart enough to remain anonymous on the
> internet because I am smarter than Bob

http://greatergreaterwashington.org/nroshan/

http://166.67.70.234/rlvi/licenseDetail.cfm?lrn=0402047186#

Meh, oh well there goes that thought. Point being? You proved I'm an actual P.E. unlike Bob Bruhn

Feel free to search about me now. You'll see I'm in no way involved with WMATA, or MWAA, or any land developer in Tysons.

What you have proven is that I was being honest about my intent, that I am indeed a P.E. in good standing, and that I do have a background in civil engineering in this area.

In fact the only thing you'll likely find online about me is that I used to work for Bowman during the land development boom years where I saw the worst of the land development sprawl developments of this area.



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i think you are both boring, stupid tools. Start a thread someone cares about.

equal time...

Bob Bruhns claims to be a "design engineer for a Northern Virginia satellite manufacturer"

but...

no PE registration

only "satellite manufacturer" to which he can be demonstrably connected is a ham radio hobbyist outfit - the "Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation" at www.amsat.org, where he was once described as "VP Engineering" - http://n4hy.smugmug.com/AMSAT/SpaceDay2007/2819832_z6Kwdq/150836909_d5g58XD#!i=150836909&k=d5g58XD&lb=1&s=A

lives in a Herndon shitbox hardly befitting a "design engineer" working for the military-industrial complex

just gonna leave this here Wrote:
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> equal time...
>
> Bob Bruhns claims to be a "design engineer for a
> Northern Virginia satellite manufacturer"
>
> but...
>
> no PE registration
>
> only "satellite manufacturer" to which he can be
> demonstrably connected is a ham radio hobbyist
> outfit - the "Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation"
> at www.amsat.org, where he was once described as
> "VP Engineering" -
> http://n4hy.smugmug.com/AMSAT/SpaceDay2007/2819832
> _z6Kwdq/150836909_d5g58XD#!i=150836909&k=d5g58XD&l
> b=1&s=A
>
> lives in a Herndon shitbox hardly befitting a
> "design engineer" working for the
> military-industrial complex


JGLTH, Whoever you are, you completely miss the point and its not cool to post professional license information, in fact I believe that is a big legal no no; you better pray that information isn't used incorrectly champ.

I have nothing to hide I simply don't want my personal thoughts and beliefs to be conflated with my employer who has nothing to do with local development not to mention the general ick factor that occurs anytime a persons name is put online; that is evident by the fact that you yourself are anonymous.

I think you are a tool for doing that.

Maybe the entire project wouldn't be delayed if Tysons' Engineer actually spent his time working rather than posting trying to inflate an ego and prove a point to a forum that doesn't give a shit.

JustanFYI Wrote:
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> Maybe the entire project wouldn't be delayed if
> Tysons' Engineer actually spent his time working
> rather than posting trying to inflate an ego and
> prove a point to a forum that doesn't give a shit.

Don't work for Bechtel or any sub there champ. But I agree, if I were on the project it probably would be better run. Thanks for the great compliment. Feel free to give me the $100+ million that went to the design team.

Oh and pardon me for thinking that some people might care about a $5+ billion project which will provide a 15 minute ride from Reston to Tysons, it just happens to be one of the most important economic developments currently occurring in the US connecting Reston to Tysons to Arlington.



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Tysons Engineer is sexy! I want a piece of him!

GordonBlvd Wrote:
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> Tysons Engineer is sexy! I want a piece of him!

@GB, go hit on Bruhns



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But you're a looney, TE!

Not a doctor Wrote:
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> But you're a looney, TE!

Yea how am I a canadian currency? I probably shouldn't have made this thread, but frankly Bob Bruhns is a joke and I like mocking him and pointing out how much of a fraud he is. Why does that make me crazy?

Tysons Engineer Wrote:
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> Not a doctor Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > But you're a looney, TE!
>
> Yea how am I a canadian currency? I probably
> shouldn't have made this thread, but frankly Bob
> Bruhns is a joke and I like mocking him and
> pointing out how much of a fraud he is. Why does
> that make me crazy?


You are much sexier :)...... If those devianart pics are you...

GordonBlvd Wrote:
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> Tysons Engineer Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Not a doctor Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > But you're a looney, TE!
> >
> > Yea how am I a canadian currency? I probably
> > shouldn't have made this thread, but frankly
> Bob
> > Bruhns is a joke and I like mocking him and
> > pointing out how much of a fraud he is. Why
> does
> > that make me crazy?
>
>
> You are much sexier :)...... If those devianart
> pics are you...


No clearly bob is the attractive one. Off you go, annoy him

LoLz...



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GordonBlvd Wrote:
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> You are much sexier :)...... If those devianart
> pics are you...

Well, he certainly doesn't look like the nerdy little pencil pusher that I had imagined.

just gonna leave this here Wrote:
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> equal time...
>
> Bob Bruhns claims to be a "design engineer for a
> Northern Virginia satellite manufacturer"
>
> but...
>
> no PE registration
>
> only "satellite manufacturer" to which he can be
> demonstrably connected is a ham radio hobbyist
> outfit - the "Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation"
> at www.amsat.org, where he was once described as
> "VP Engineering" -
> http://n4hy.smugmug.com/AMSAT/SpaceDay2007/2819832
> _z6Kwdq/150836909_d5g58XD#!i=150836909&k=d5g58XD&l
> b=1&s=A
>
> lives in a Herndon shitbox hardly befitting a
> "design engineer" working for the
> military-industrial complex

my bad, he works at SpaceQuest, Ltd. - www.spacequest.com. used to post on usenet under his work email.

just gonna leave this here Wrote:
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> Tysons Engineer Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Yea I'm smart enough to remain anonymous on the
> > internet because I am smarter than Bob
>
> http://greatergreaterwashington.org/nroshan/
>
> http://166.67.70.234/rlvi/licenseDetail.cfm?lrn=04
> 02047186#

What kind of gay name is Navid Roshan?

JustanFYI Wrote:
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> Maybe the entire project wouldn't be delayed if
> Tysons' Engineer actually spent his time working
> rather than posting trying to inflate an ego and
> prove a point to a forum that doesn't give a shit.

I made the mistake of trying to read his blog. Its full of the same trite I'm afraid. Many opinions and no facts to back them up. No wonder nothing gets done, he must be Union.

Ivy Bigbee Wrote:
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> JustanFYI Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Maybe the entire project wouldn't be delayed if
> > Tysons' Engineer actually spent his time
> working
> > rather than posting trying to inflate an ego
> and
> > prove a point to a forum that doesn't give a
> shit.
>
> I made the mistake of trying to read his blog. Its
> full of the same trite I'm afraid. Many opinions
> and no facts to back them up. No wonder nothing
> gets done, he must be Union.


Hilarious. Read it tomorrow. Gonna be plenty of calculations; PS my evidence based credentials. Feel free to shut the hell up or cite specific beef.

http://thetysonscorner.com/oped-connollymorantransit/

http://thetysonscorner.com/wmata-budget-policies-we-need-change/

http://thetysonscorner.com/rethinking-wmata-rail-fare-structure/

Spacequest's website looks like it is from 2001.

Tysons Engineer Wrote:
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> Ivy Bigbee Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > JustanFYI Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Maybe the entire project wouldn't be delayed
> if
> > > Tysons' Engineer actually spent his time
> > working
> > > rather than posting trying to inflate an ego
> > and
> > > prove a point to a forum that doesn't give a
> > shit.
> >
> > I made the mistake of trying to read his blog.
> Its
> > full of the same trite I'm afraid. Many
> opinions
> > and no facts to back them up. No wonder nothing
> > gets done, he must be Union.
>
>
> Hilarious. Read it tomorrow. Gonna be plenty of
> calculations; PS my evidence based credentials.
> Feel free to shut the hell up or cite specific
> beef.
>
> http://thetysonscorner.com/oped-connollymorantrans
> it/
>
> http://thetysonscorner.com/wmata-budget-policies-w
> e-need-change/
>
> http://thetysonscorner.com/rethinking-wmata-rail-f
> are-structure/

Taken from one of the links above. This is the kind of attitude I was alluding to:
"The only question that remains, Congressman Connolly and Moran, is where can I pick up this check for 20 million dollars for the above analysis? There are a lot of crosswalks, sidewalks, bike lanes, and signage needed in Fairfax. $20 million would go a long way to address these needs."

Your nickname should be King Ass.

Oh you mean when I pointed out the county and state shouldn't waste 20 million dollars to study a non feasible transit expansion to prince William county. Yea how dare I point out a politician who wants to waste tax payer funds. Nothing from bob on that one... Strange I guess he only has a beef with Dulles airport folks when it comes to transit spending. Someone should really find out why

How do you even know what "Bob" you are arguing with is the same person.. each time or ever? It's not a registered account.

Tysons Engineer Wrote:
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> Not a doctor Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > But you're a looney, TE!
>
> Yea how am I a canadian currency? I probably
> shouldn't have made this thread, but frankly Bob
> Bruhns is a joke and I like mocking him and
> pointing out how much of a fraud he is. Why does
> that make me crazy?

Not Canadian money, more like obsessive-compulsive.
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you know something honestly? I dont konw Bob Bruhns worth sh*t, but I know he's had the courage (or foolishness who knows LoLz) to put his real name up here.


I know I've called out ppl on this thing before, but they are either hiding behind a screen name same as me or ALREADY in the news.

And to call a man out like you have, TE - in a public forum - with no fact or statement to back up the thread title.......................well, I know I have lost whatever respect I did have for you right there.

pic unrelated
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Tysons Engineer Wrote:
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> Oh you mean when I pointed out the county and
> state shouldn't waste 20 million dollars to study
> a non feasible transit expansion to prince William
> county. Yea how dare I point out a politician who
> wants to waste tax payer funds. Nothing from bob
> on that one... Strange I guess he only has a beef
> with Dulles airport folks when it comes to transit
> spending. Someone should really find out why

The more costs I price-check in Dulles Rail, the more massive overcosts I find. Major items are priced at almost two times what they should be! People need to look at this. That's why.

Bob Bruhns Wrote:
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> Tysons Engineer Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Oh you mean when I pointed out the county and
> > state shouldn't waste 20 million dollars to
> study
> > a non feasible transit expansion to prince
> William
> > county. Yea how dare I point out a politician
> who
> > wants to waste tax payer funds. Nothing from
> bob
> > on that one... Strange I guess he only has a
> beef
> > with Dulles airport folks when it comes to
> transit
> > spending. Someone should really find out why
>
> The more costs I price-check in Dulles Rail, the
> more massive overcosts I find. Major items are
> priced at almost two times what they should be!
> People need to look at this. That's why.


Response doesnt even make sense to the statement I made. How do people even listen to this guy. I'm done. I'm out, enjoy listening to the Bob Bruhns of the world. A one note idiot who has a crusade against one particular entity, not for the benefit of the public, but as a personal vendetta.

Tysons Engineer Wrote:
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> Response doesnt even make sense to the statement I
> made. How do people even listen to this guy. I'm
> done. I'm out, enjoy listening to the Bob Bruhns
> of the world. A one note idiot who has a crusade
> against one particular entity, not for the benefit
> of the public, but as a personal vendetta.


translation: I'm gonna run like a scared little boy instead of stand up for myself ,define my accusations, and defend my actions.

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Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> translation: I'm gonna run like a scared little
> boy instead of stand up for myself ,define my
> accusations, and defend my actions.

Exactly.

I am speaking about the blue/orange expansion plan, he comes back with another copy and paste job about the silver line phase 2.

I have been as vocal of an opponent of the phase 2 cost structure as Bobby has, the difference is that I know when to stay on topic. Phase 2 cost structure doesn't define the only thing I can speak of whenever questioned.

I'll start debating the issues at hand as soon as Bob tells me why he believes that there will be a far greater delay to the operation of the Silver Line than is currently being reported by any media outlet. The WaPo, Patch, WTOP all have the same statement saying that it is still anticipated to complete construction in Late September/1st week of October meaning an opening December 31st or the 1st week of January.

Tysons Engineer Wrote:
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> I am speaking about the blue/orange expansion
> plan, he comes back with another copy and paste
> job about the silver line phase 2.
>
> I have been as vocal of an opponent of the phase 2
> cost structure as Bobby has, the difference is
> that I know when to stay on topic. Phase 2 cost
> structure doesn't define the only thing I can
> speak of whenever questioned.
>
> I'll start debating the issues at hand as soon as
> Bob tells me why he believes that there will be a
> far greater delay to the operation of the Silver
> Line than is currently being reported by any media
> outlet. The WaPo, Patch, WTOP all have the same
> statement saying that it is still anticipated to
> complete construction in Late September/1st week
> of October meaning an opening December 31st or the
> 1st week of January.

It will not open on time in January, more like early Feb. If I'm right, I'm right, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but we'll see next Feb.

Bob Bruhns Wrote:
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> Tysons Engineer Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I am speaking about the blue/orange expansion
> > plan, he comes back with another copy and paste
> > job about the silver line phase 2.
> >
> > I have been as vocal of an opponent of the phase
> 2
> > cost structure as Bobby has, the difference is
> > that I know when to stay on topic. Phase 2 cost
> > structure doesn't define the only thing I can
> > speak of whenever questioned.
> >
> > I'll start debating the issues at hand as soon
> as
> > Bob tells me why he believes that there will be
> a
> > far greater delay to the operation of the
> Silver
> > Line than is currently being reported by any
> media
> > outlet. The WaPo, Patch, WTOP all have the same
> > statement saying that it is still anticipated
> to
> > complete construction in Late September/1st
> week
> > of October meaning an opening December 31st or
> the
> > 1st week of January.
>
> It will not open on time in January, more like
> early Feb. If I'm right, I'm right, if I'm wrong,
> I'm wrong, but we'll see next Feb.

You gonna apologize for being a dick when its on time, are you gonna change your demogouging for the next phase?

No, no one will hold you accountable for screaming fire and running away. Thats the problem.

But ultimately one of us will be found to be correct. I atleast am honest and tell people that there is no evidence saying one way or the other.

I have no way of telling when the silver line will open, I do know that the amount left for construction could not cause a 2 month delay unless some equipment was found to be faulty, something far greater than signal sensors. That will not be known until WMATA testing.

If you have any information about that, you should tell the public your source, otherwise stop pretending you can see the future.

Now watch he'll either link a WaPo article that simply states "some delays" might occur or switch to a discussion about the cost of Phase 2



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I am certainly not going to apologize to you for anything. Let's wait and see when the Silverline opens. We'll suspend this conversation till then. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for it opening on time (if not early). As I said yesterday, I am very concerned with the amount of money being spent only to have issues like we saw a few months ago during testing. Compared to other transit systems in other cities in the U.S. the Metro has been one of the most problematic according to some studies.

Bob Bruhns Wrote:
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> I am certainly not going to apologize to you for
> anything. Let's wait and see when the Silverline
> opens. We'll suspend this conversation till then.
> Don't get me wrong, I'm all for it opening on time
> (if not early). As I said yesterday, I am very
> concerned with the amount of money being spent
> only to have issues like we saw a few months ago
> during testing. Compared to other transit systems
> in other cities in the U.S. the Metro has been one
> of the most problematic according to some studies.


Yes it has, and if you actually read the things I write you would see I have been very vocally against WMATA. However, WMATA has nothing to do with MWAA's operation of the Silver Line construction. WMATA certainly has nothing to do with the selection and construction activities of Bechtel, and absolutely nothing to do with a testing and sensor subcontractor of Bechtel either.

So again, you are conflating two concepts for what purpose? Why cant you simply debate the issues at hand.

You believe there are issues currently with the construction of Phase 1. In fact Phase 1 construction has been about as smooth as any major infrastructure project in this area that I can remember from the past 20 years.

The beltway widening was far more dangerously managed and delayed. The Mixing Bowl was a disaster that actually cost people their lives and a 30% cost over run. The Route 66 widening literally had to rip out 2 miles of infrastructure because the contractor mis-installed a culvert.

So please, do tell me bob, what is the proof in your pudding that the phase 1 is being run improperly? The sub contractor did a no-no, the prime contractor caught it and immediately reported it. MWAA reviewed the evidence decided what the problem was and took corrective action including alerting the ultimate operating entity, WMATA that it would be corrected.

Did you want them to write you a letter personally bob?

If you have any evidence condemning any of the entities actually involved in Phase 1, lets have it. I have no personal interest in MWAA, Bechtel or whoever the very dangerous subcontractor who skipped steps was. So if they are doing things wrong lets make it known.

The problem is, you want to demonize with supposition not facts.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/18/2013 08:21AM by Tysons Engineer.

Can we quote you in the Patch?

Bob Bruhns Wrote:
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> Can we quote you in the Patch?


You may not without me seeing the entirety of the statement in context with the story or comment, including what you want to quote me as, and for what purpose. Provide me that, and if its a fair and accurate quote of my statements and beliefs I will consider allowing it.

PS Bob, I have no problem with you. I honestly don't. In fact I admire the fact that you want to find cost saving in the project. You just do it in the completely wrong manner by implication by taking one subject that is different and trying to apply it to another scenario. And then you sell it as fact to the people out there that will eat it up without reviewing the information themselves. That is dangerous.

If your opinion is that the metro will open late, say that. You say you have inside sources that know something is going on? I call BS unless you say what that inside information is



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 06/18/2013 08:28AM by Tysons Engineer.

Tysons Engineer Wrote:
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> Bob Bruhns Wrote:
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> > Can we quote you in the Patch?
>
>
> You may not without me seeing the entirety of the
> statement in context with the story or comment,
> including what you want to quote me as, and for
> what purpose. Provide me that, and if its a fair
> and accurate quote of my statements and beliefs I
> will consider allowing it.

Sure, that's fine.

Bob Bruhns Wrote:
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> Tysons Engineer Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Bob Bruhns Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Can we quote you in the Patch?
> >
> >
> > You may not without me seeing the entirety of
> the
> > statement in context with the story or comment,
> > including what you want to quote me as, and for
> > what purpose. Provide me that, and if its a
> fair
> > and accurate quote of my statements and beliefs
> I
> > will consider allowing it.
>
> Sure, that's fine.

Provide here, prior to posting anything on patch.

How about you do a summary of the project with Phase I, its challenges, successes, etc. for starters. You can point out where the system works, where it needs some work, etc. For Phase II, that would need to be separate.

Bob Bruhns Wrote:
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> How about you do a summary of the project with
> Phase I, its challenges, successes, etc. for
> starters. You can point out where the system
> works, where it needs some work, etc. For Phase
> II, that would need to be separate.

I'll do a short summary.

Challenges for Phase 1
* Started with the bad cost structuring they created by selling off the toll road to MWAA who then, as any for profit entity would do, used that sale to maximize their return and reduce their own costs. That was a huge mistake, and sadly the biggest legacy of the silver line will be the faulty contract language and structure that will now be repeated elsewhere in Private-Public partnerships.

* Secondly, because of several penny wise, pound foolish vocal opponents the project ultimately ended up above ground. That is a decision that Fairfax will have to live with from now on.

* Thirdly, there are clearly too many conflicts of interest on MWAA board. I was very happy to see some politicians bring that to light and begin a process of change there. I think MWAA, so long as they are using public funds (via the transfer of the toll road) should now be held accountable to the same oversight that public entities are. So far, that has been lacking at the administrative level. I would point out however that in the construction process there is no proof that adequate safety oversight is not in place, and that the mechanisms that are in place are catching any non-code compliant issues.

Successes

* Compared to most projects of its scale (Mixing Bowl, Big Dig, 495 Widening, Route 66 widening, Blue line Expansion) the Silver Line phase 1 has actually been right on schedule. We are quibbling over what is currently only being indicated as a 1 week delay. That is minor in the grand scheme in my opinion. Is it symbolic to open in 2013? Absolutely which is why the politicians urged it so much to do so. Is it functionally important? No, no one will really be effected by a 1 week delay.

* The cost over runs are yet to amount. People (I believe you included) predicted there would be hundreds of millions in cost over runs for the project. In fact there is plenty left in the reserve funds, the only over run which occurred, a $150 million change order, was a result of faulty contract language and an addendum that didnt make the original contract due to the short time frame presented to attain federal funds.

* The silver line will connect Arlington, Tysons, and Reston/Herndon where approximately 450,000 jobs exist within 1/2 mile of the stations. I think that should be noted as a huge success in the planning of this system.

I'm not sure what else you want me to say on the technical side. There have been no casualties or injuries (that have been made public atleast) of any crew working on the project. Any issues that have come up have become public far quicker than most infrastructure projects, and from what the Federal reviews continue to show is that the codes for construction are being met. The audit of the structural piers showed that the alarm that was raised last year was not accurate, and that the contractor did provide adequate safety factors.

All of this information I get from public stories, not from any inside sources. If there is some major coverup of problems occurring, Id like someone to enlighten me on it, as I plan on riding this train and I sure would like to think that it is safe. If you don't have any inside information, then everything you are doing is in order to undermine public confidence, to which I ask, why?

I dont think anything above is ground breaking stuff, and I would imagine a lot of people in this area would agree

PS none of that means you can quote me on the above unless I see it in context of what you want to write on the patch.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 06/18/2013 08:53AM by Tysons Engineer.

Looks good, I'm looking through it now.

Along the Orange Line we are NOT looking forward to this opening. With 8-car trains at rush hour they are already packed. Where are the silver line passengers going to fit? The whole project is poorly thought out -- a third track for express trains on the inner orange line was a minimum requirement to make this work -- along with a change in Metro management and financing!

bogbug Wrote:
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> Along the Orange Line we are NOT looking forward
> to this opening. With 8-car trains at rush hour
> they are already packed. Where are the silver line
> passengers going to fit? The whole project is
> poorly thought out -- a third track for express
> trains on the inner orange line was a minimum
> requirement to make this work -- along with a
> change in Metro management and financing!


It's my understanding that the Silver Line passengers will be on the Silver Line trains that run through the city and all the way to Maryland. They will not need to transfer to Orange Line trains.

Bogbug is referring to congestion at the Rosslyn tunnel I think. This is not an immediate concern and based on current loads the silver line can be accommodated without changes to the headway. But I agree that an improvement to include a bypass system would be a good upgrade for WMATA's system. The problem is, you can't get any money to fund it in the current environment and WMATA is a jobs program that can't save any money of its own from fares because they instead waste it on union benefits that are 30% more expensive than other transit agencies.

None of that has anything to do with Phase 1 though, and on day one of phase 1, the orange line will be less congested not more because there are currently alot of north county folks who drive to Vienna to ride the orange that will switch to Wiehle.

I just stumbled across this thread. I am the (real) Bob Bruhns from Herndon (not Fairfax). The earlier posts in this thread were not from me.

Apparently I have come to the attention of some wiseguy kid or dim-witted political operative. I'm not sure who was impersonating me, but this is the first post I've put on this board in a long time... I'd have to check my archives to see when that was.

Why is somebody impersonating me here? And if someone is impersonating me, then Tysons Engineer might not be the real Tysons Engineer either. Actually there is a Tysons Engineer who posts on other sites, and he did not strike me as being the type to make a silly attack like that, especially on a site that I usually do not frequent. So I assume it's not really him either.

I am indeed a source of many links backing up the things that I actually claim. Some of the posts made in my name earlier in this thread are things that I would say, but others are not. It's a shame that anybody would want to impersonate a local civic activist. It's a pretty stupid and cowardly prank, I'd say.

The engineer is a child rapist.

PS - Also, I am not, and have never been, an employee of Patch. I do have a blog on the Herndon Patch, but I haven't posted on it lately. I do, however, frequently post article comments on various Patch sites.

So, it seems that this impersonator has managed to accomplish something that I think is called an Epic Fail. I offer my congratulations.

Bob Bruhns Wrote:
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> bogbug Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Along the Orange Line we are NOT looking
> forward
> > to this opening. With 8-car trains at rush hour
> > they are already packed. Where are the silver
> line
> > passengers going to fit? The whole project is
> > poorly thought out -- a third track for express
> > trains on the inner orange line was a minimum
> > requirement to make this work -- along with a
> > change in Metro management and financing!
>
>
> It's my understanding that the Silver Line
> passengers will be on the Silver Line trains that
> run through the city and all the way to Maryland.
> They will not need to transfer to Orange Line
> trains.


Once in the city it changes name to Silver Back Line.

It's probably not the real 'Tysons Engineer', and it certainly wasn't the real Bob Bruhns that were going back and forth there. I'm not very surprised that somebody apparently has time and funding to play that kind of game, because the Dulles Rail / Silver Line project has been a pack of lies for more than a decade, and disinformation and distraction are more or less normal for it.

Worse, I had the audacity to comment on the trend of construction and developers to play the 'smart growth' and 'mixed-use' cards, and then change the tune a bit so that the residential is built first, and/or the commercial is much smaller than originally advertised. This is being seen in Vienna, and in a couple of projects in Loudoun County near the future site of the Rt 606 Silver Line station. Interestingly, that subject appears to be where my name was first falsely used here on Fairfax Underground.

Anyway, I just registered my name on this website. Probably the troll will now run off and play wackamoley somewhere else.

WASHINGTON - The Metropolitan Washington Airports Authority is investigating why a Silver Line test train derailed Tuesday.

The train's front axle popped off the track when it hit a derailer west of Wolf Trap, Pat Nowakowski, executive director of the Dulles Rail Project, tells The Washington Post.

A derailer is a mechanism that will derail a subway train if it goes farther on a track than it is supposed to go.

Test trains started running on the Silver Line tracks late last year, but Nowakowski says this it the first time there has been a derailment during the runs.

The first phase of the Silver Line will go out to Wiehle Avenue in Reston and is expected to open early next year.

The line eventually will take the subway from East Falls Church through Tysons Corner, Reston, Herndon and out to Dulles International Airport and Ashburn.

DERAILED Wrote:
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> WASHINGTON - The Metropolitan Washington Airports
> Authority is investigating why a Silver Line test
> train derailed Tuesday.
>
> The train's front axle popped off the track when
> it hit a derailer west of Wolf Trap, Pat
> Nowakowski, executive director of the Dulles Rail
> Project, tells The Washington Post.
>
> A derailer is a mechanism that will derail a
> subway train if it goes farther on a track than it
> is supposed to go.
>

OK I think I figured out why the train derailed. I believe it hit a derailer.

Case closed. You're welcome.

Bob Bruhns Wrote:
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> It's probably not the real 'Tysons Engineer', and
> it certainly wasn't the real Bob Bruhns that were
> going back and forth there. I'm not very
> surprised that somebody apparently has time and
> funding to play that kind of game, because the
> Dulles Rail / Silver Line project has been a pack
> of lies for more than a decade, and disinformation
> and distraction are more or less normal for it.
>
> Worse, I had the audacity to comment on the trend
> of construction and developers to play the 'smart
> growth' and 'mixed-use' cards, and then change the
> tune a bit so that the residential is built first,
> and/or the commercial is much smaller than
> originally advertised. This is being seen in
> Vienna, and in a couple of projects in Loudoun
> County near the future site of the Rt 606 Silver
> Line station. Interestingly, that subject appears
> to be where my name was first falsely used here on
> Fairfax Underground.
>
> Anyway, I just registered my name on this website.
> Probably the troll will now run off and play
> wackamoley somewhere else.

Bob, your picture reminds me of Barnabus from Dark Shadows (The old show). How much do you charge to haunt a house?
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